| wgrant | wallyworld___: ppa:launchpad should work on precise now | 00:32 |
|---|---|---|
| lifeless | man once you start looking for dupes | 01:00 |
| lifeless | there are tonnnnes | 01:00 |
| lifeless | (e.g. bug 132300) | 01:00 |
| _mup_ | Bug #132300: mail for new bugs inconsistent with other bug mail (ignores mail-on-my-actions disabled, missing footers, duplicate mail vs structural subscriptions) <email> <lp-bugs> <notifications> <Launchpad itself:Triaged> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/132300 > | 01:00 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Well | 01:01 |
| wgrant | lifeless: They're not necessarily dupes | 01:01 |
| wgrant | They would all be solved by making them consistent, but they're really separate bugs. | 01:02 |
| lifeless | wgrant: I think there is one that isn't necessarily a dupe | 01:03 |
| lifeless | wgrant: anyhow, we have limited facilities for saying 'X symptom', 'Y symptom' of a given root cause, so meh:) | 01:04 |
| wgrant | Bah | 01:17 |
| wgrant | lxc has been apparmored | 01:17 |
| wgrant | Ahhhh | 01:20 |
| wgrant | And that explains why my syslog has been all broken. | 01:20 |
| wgrant | rsyslog from a container sometimes takes hold of the same stream | 01:21 |
| wgrant | So /var/log/kern.log only gets the occasional byte | 01:21 |
| lifeless | ok so I need help finding a damn bug :) | 01:25 |
| lifeless | there was one about bugs like bug 1 | 01:25 |
| lifeless | which get flashcrowded | 01:25 |
| _mup_ | Bug #1: Microsoft has a majority market share <ubuntu> <Clubdistro:Confirmed> <Computer Science Ubuntu:Confirmed for compscibuntu-bugs> <LibreOffice Productivity Suite:New> <dylan.NET.Reflection:Invalid> <dylan.NET:Invalid> <EasyPeasy Overview:Invalid by ramvi> <Ichthux:Invalid by raphink> <JAK LINUX:Invalid> <LibreOffice:In Progress by bjoern-michaelsen> <Linux:New> <Linux Mint:In Progress> <The Linux OS Project:In Progress> <metacity:In Prog | 01:26 |
| lifeless | I cannot find | 01:26 |
| wgrant | Bug #73122? | 01:26 |
| _mup_ | Bug #73122: individual bug reports can become very noisy and confused when unrelated comments, tasks and other links are created <lp-bugs> <ubuntu-platform> <Launchpad itself:Triaged> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/73122 > | 01:26 |
| lifeless | aiie thanks | 01:27 |
| wgrant | Hmm | 01:27 |
| wgrant | So I guess by apparmoring lxc-start you actually end up apparmoring an entire userspace, which is probably unprecedented. | 01:27 |
| wgrant | Not surprising it doesn't work. | 01:27 |
| lifeless | wgrant: so it looks like it works but fails hard? | 01:28 |
| wgrant | Most stuff works | 01:28 |
| wgrant | But eg. dpkg-divert sometimes doesn't. | 01:28 |
| lifeless | 'nice | 01:29 |
| lifeless | ' | 01:29 |
| wgrant | Yeah, that's it. | 01:35 |
| wgrant | Breaks ephemeral entirely too. | 01:35 |
| wgrant | Probably because overlayfs doesn't like LSM much. | 01:35 |
| lifeless | wgrant: filed a bug ? | 01:58 |
| wgrant | Nah, mailing gary about it. | 01:59 |
| wgrant | Needs some investigation to see what's actually going on. | 01:59 |
| wgrant | And I've got two further non-feature things to do today | 02:00 |
| lifeless | work? zomg | 02:00 |
| wgrant | I really hate Erlang. | 02:08 |
| wgrant | wallyworld_: Do you still have the rabbitmq-management-agent issue? | 02:13 |
| wallyworld_ | wgrant: yes, not sure exactly what the root cause is, but the 4 or 5 rabbit packages don't install | 02:14 |
| wgrant | wallyworld_: sudo rm -r /usr/lib/erlang/lib/rabbit_management_agent | 02:15 |
| wgrant | There's something wrong with part of the rabbitmq-management-agent package | 02:15 |
| wallyworld_ | wgrant: and try reinstalling now? | 02:15 |
| wgrant | Yes. | 02:15 |
| wgrant | And you can remove the libapt-pkg symlink as well | 02:15 |
| * wallyworld_ fires up apt-get | 02:15 | |
| wgrant | I've fixed the PPA up. | 02:15 |
| wallyworld_ | and the debversion package too? | 02:16 |
| wgrant | The fixed version is built. | 02:16 |
| wallyworld_ | too slow at typing, yay, thanks. trying it now \o/ | 02:16 |
| wgrant | So just upgrade | 02:16 |
| wgrant | A fresh installation of launchpad-developer-dependencies works in precise now, apart from the rabbitmq issue | 02:17 |
| wallyworld_ | wgrant: yes, it indeed works. thanks, that's awesome | 02:24 |
| wgrant | Huh | 02:25 |
| wgrant | rabbitmq-management installs lots of files that should be in rabbitmq-management-agent | 02:25 |
| wgrant | Ahhh | 02:29 |
| wgrant | lynxman typoed it | 02:29 |
| wgrant | --- rabbitmq-management-2.6.1+hg20110927.orig/debian/install | 02:29 |
| wgrant | +++ rabbitmq-management-2.6.1+hg20110927/debian/install | 02:29 |
| wgrant | @@ -0,0 +1,2 @@ | 02:29 |
| wgrant | +build/app/rabbitmq_management-2.6.1/* usr/lib/erlang/lib/rabbit_management_agent | 02:29 |
| wgrant | 85 / 69 MaloneApplication:+bugs | 02:36 |
| wgrant | Why don't I believe that. | 02:36 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Any idea about those numbers? | 02:36 |
| wgrant | They seem implausibly low. | 02:36 |
| lifeless | 144 / 0 MaloneApplication:CollectionResource:#bugs | 02:36 |
| lifeless | mm | 02:37 |
| lifeless | 2K total timeouts | 02:37 |
| lifeless | wgrant: '54 / 205 ' | 02:37 |
| lifeless | wgrant: might be hiding something | 02:37 |
| lifeless | wgrant: the numbers seem consistent with the total timeout count | 02:38 |
| StevenK | wgrant: Do you mind QAing r14737? | 03:31 |
| wgrant | StevenK: Done | 03:32 |
| wgrant | lifeless: "may never" lolol | 03:34 |
| * StevenK reaches for mawsonm | 03:36 | |
| StevenK | s/m$// | 03:36 |
| StevenK | wgrant: Plan is to get r14738 deployed to NDT as soon as mawson behaves, and hopefully FDT it onto ppa/ftpmaster tonight | 03:37 |
| wgrant | Correct. | 03:37 |
| StevenK | wgrant: I just came up with that plan, how can it be correct? | 03:38 |
| wgrant | It is the right plan. | 03:38 |
| wgrant | The only plan, even. | 03:38 |
| lifeless | hey | 03:40 |
| * StevenK waits for mawson to finish WADLing | 03:40 | |
| lifeless | does poppy need DB access any more ? | 03:40 |
| wgrant | No. | 03:42 |
| wgrant | Well | 03:42 |
| wgrant | In 5.5 hours it won't. | 03:42 |
| wgrant | But it may still connect. | 03:42 |
| lifeless | cool, lets rip it out | 03:43 |
| StevenK | lifeless: Your bullet points should be seperate points | 03:44 |
| StevenK | lifeless: "or of bugs filed against launchpad-project " | 03:44 |
| StevenK | Which doesn't make sense either | 03:44 |
| lifeless | * Increasing the number or difficulty of bugs filed against launchpad-project | 03:45 |
| lifeless | ? | 03:45 |
| StevenK | Yes, which requires it and the previous point to be read together, and it scans awkwardly | 03:46 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Bug #246022: team admins/owners (and possibly members?) can contact all members (or the mailing list if one is configured). Everyone else can only contact the owner. | 03:48 |
| _mup_ | Bug #246022: No way for team admins to contact all members of the team <contact-via-web> <feature> <lp-registry> <mailing-lists> <teams> <Launchpad itself:Triaged> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/246022 > | 03:48 |
| lifeless | StevenK: I'ma sking if that rephrasing is better | 03:48 |
| lifeless | wgrant: bah, I dropped the list condition from the summary | 03:49 |
| StevenK | lifeless: Oh, right. Sounds fine to me. There is a similar issue in the second group of bullets | 03:51 |
| nigelb | Mornin' | 04:03 |
| nigelb | StevenK: For a minute there, I wondered why lifeless was skiing. | 04:04 |
| StevenK | Hah | 04:04 |
| StevenK | nigelb: Looking forward to the first T20I? :_D | 04:04 |
| nigelb | Not really. | 04:05 |
| nigelb | I think they'll get crushed. :) | 04:05 |
| StevenK | wgrant: https://code.launchpad.net/~stevenk/launchpad/ttb-no-chroot/+merge/91015 | 04:53 |
| StevenK | wgrant: Can haz review? | 05:26 |
| wgrant | StevenK: Is there a test for _getDistroArchSeries? | 05:29 |
| StevenK | It just returns ubuntu.currentseries.nominatedarchindep, I suspect that is already well-tested | 05:30 |
| StevenK | lifeless: Didn't we kill oops prefixes? | 05:49 |
| StevenK | wgrant: Distracted much? :-P | 05:50 |
| wgrant | StevenK: Sure, but the method isn't tested any more. | 05:50 |
| wgrant | I would reinstate _getChroot and the test. | 05:51 |
| wgrant | They're doing not much harm. | 05:51 |
| wgrant | Or is dispatchBuildToSlave fairly well tested? | 05:51 |
| wgrant | Given what it does, it seems unlikely that its tests are stellar. | 05:52 |
| StevenK | wgrant: Why did you unassign yourself from bug 780835? | 06:00 |
| _mup_ | Bug #780835: representation cache a pessimization <easy> <performance> <qa-ok> <tech-debt> <lazr.restful:Triaged> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/780835 > | 06:00 |
| StevenK | Oh, since it probably needs to be ripped out of lazr.restful now that LP doesn't make use of it? | 06:01 |
| wgrant | StevenK: Right. | 06:07 |
| wgrant | It was a lazr.restful task, which I didn't notice until after I'd landed the branch. | 06:07 |
| * StevenK waits for the diff to update. :-( | 06:10 | |
| StevenK | wgrant: The diff isn't updating, but http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/824788/ is a diff against submit: | 06:14 |
| wgrant | StevenK: Diff looks updated to me. | 06:16 |
| wgrant | Note that AJAX updating is presently broken. | 06:16 |
| wgrant | Approvalised | 06:16 |
| StevenK | I've been refreshing anyway | 06:16 |
| nigelb | Wait. diff stuff is now queued? | 06:17 |
| nigelb | Or is it for launchpad team only for now. | 06:17 |
| StevenK | nigelb: Currently, you need to be a member of ~launchpad | 06:17 |
| StevenK | It needs a bit of polish | 06:17 |
| wgrant | And it's been broken for a couple of days, but will hopefully be back next week. | 06:17 |
| nigelb | Hrm, I suspect as much. But still, closer. | 06:18 |
| StevenK | nigelb: Jealous? :-P | 06:18 |
| nigelb | StevenK: You have *no* idea. | 06:18 |
| nigelb | 44 | 06:18 |
| nigelb | bah irssi | 06:18 |
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| === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away | ||
| lifeless | StevenK: so oops_prefix -> reporter in the new oops stack | 08:07 |
| lifeless | StevenK: we have glue in LP to dynamically allocate them for scripts etc | 08:07 |
| lifeless | StevenK: but they are still used in appservers (but with little reason, we can discriminate via hostname...) | 08:07 |
| === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan | ||
| wgrant | lifeless: Can we migrate to one-config-per-user yet? | 08:33 |
| lifeless | I don't see why not | 08:45 |
| lifeless | I only ever wanted us to just limit the rate-of-change, for auditability | 08:46 |
| adeuring | good morning | 09:03 |
| danhg | Morning | 09:16 |
| stub | wgrant: I see you rebuild postgresql-8.4-debversion for precise. Are you using the lucid packages atm. for the rest of things? | 10:16 |
| wgrant | stub: I grabbed slony (1) from oneiric in the primary archive, but had to rebuild debversion due to a libapt-pkg soname bump in precise. | 10:17 |
| stub | no signer listed for slony... don't know if that is a problem | 10:18 |
| stub | Are your PostgreSQL packages from precise? | 10:19 |
| wgrant | Nah, the lack of signer is just because it was synced from Debian. | 10:19 |
| stub | Just wondering if I should leave things as they are or try to push the pg8.4 packages into the lp ppa. | 10:19 |
| wgrant | postgres itself we're still using from the primary archive. | 10:20 |
| wgrant | Which, as you say, will probably go away in less than a month. | 10:20 |
| stub | I'd like devs on PG 9.1 in the next week or two in any case | 10:20 |
| stub | ok. I'll leave it as things are then and assume gary's missing PG packages are his problem. | 10:20 |
| wgrant | But we can grab 8.4 from precise once it vanishes, if we haven't moved to 9.1 by then. | 10:20 |
| wgrant | His problem was debversion and slony. | 10:20 |
| wgrant | Which I fixed a few hours back. | 10:21 |
| stub | oic. thanks. | 10:21 |
| wgrant | I also diagnosed the postgresql-common issue, as you may have seen. | 10:21 |
| wgrant | Unrelated to postgres, as it turns out. | 10:21 |
| stub | and now I see your email :) | 10:21 |
| stub | yes, saw that thread earlier ta. | 10:21 |
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| stub | How is package syncing/package copyiHow is package syncing/package copying being done now? The sync_packages database user exists but I can't find anything in the code base that actually uses it. | 11:22 |
| stub | How is package syncing/package copying being done now? The sync_packages database user exists but I can't find anything in the code base that actually uses it. | 11:22 |
| wgrant | stub: It's used by IPlainPackageCopyJobs | 11:24 |
| wgrant | Which are run when IPlainPackageCopyJobSource is given to process-job-source.py | 11:24 |
| wgrant | Which gets the dbuser from schema-lazr.conf | 11:24 |
| stub | Which doesn't mention sync_packages, so must be using a different database user | 11:25 |
| wgrant | dbuser: sync_packages | 11:26 |
| wgrant | Line 1958 | 11:26 |
| stub | pebkac. Was running bzr grep in the wrong directory. | 11:27 |
| wallyworld__ | nigelb: watching the T20? :-P | 11:31 |
| nigelb | wallyworld__: Not you too :P | 11:34 |
| wallyworld__ | oh yeah!!! | 11:35 |
| * wallyworld__ loves cricket | 11:35 | |
| wallyworld__ | especially when India lose :-P | 11:35 |
| wallyworld__ | and another wicket falls!! | 11:36 |
| nigelb | fuuuuuuu | 11:36 |
| bigjools | wallyworld__: haha :) | 11:36 |
| wallyworld__ | yep :-) | 11:37 |
| bigjools | nigelb, wallyworld__: new Indian interweb domain: .ball | 11:39 |
| wallyworld__ | lol!!! | 11:39 |
| wallyworld__ | that is hilarious | 11:39 |
| wallyworld__ | i almost spit out my wine | 11:39 |
| wallyworld__ | all over the keyboard | 11:39 |
| bigjools | my work here is done | 11:40 |
| wallyworld__ | indeed it is | 11:40 |
| nigelb | bigjools: At least India didn't get bowled out for 72.... | 11:40 |
| wallyworld__ | ouch | 11:40 |
| wallyworld__ | nigelb pwned bigjools | 11:40 |
| bigjools | nigelb: wanna talk about your tour to England last year? all those innings defeats? :) | 11:45 |
| nigelb | Still. 72. It happened even in T20 in a while. | 11:45 |
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| StevenK | I was enjoying the '35 needed from 4 balls' counter | 12:19 |
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| === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch | ||
| === salgado-afk is now known as salgado | ||
| === abentley changed the topic of #launchpad-dev to: https://dev.launchpad.net/ | On call reviewer: gmb, abentley | Firefighting: - | Critical bugtasks: 4*10^2 | ||
| abentley | deryck: qastaging's database appears at least a month out of date from production. | 14:54 |
| deryck | flacoste, is this known ^^ ? | 14:55 |
| flacoste | deryck: yes, it's a known problem | 14:58 |
| flacoste | we don't have a regular update of the qastaging db | 14:58 |
| flacoste | unlike staging which is reset every week-end | 14:58 |
| deryck | ah ok | 14:58 |
| abentley | flacoste: I see. Thanks. | 14:58 |
| deryck | flacoste, do we schedule it on demand then? | 14:58 |
| flacoste | deryck: tbh, i have no idea :-/ | 14:59 |
| flacoste | but something like that yes | 14:59 |
| deryck | ok, cool :) thanks, flacoste | 14:59 |
| flacoste | mthaddon might know | 14:59 |
| mthaddon | yep, it's on demand | 14:59 |
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| rick_h | abentley: can you peek at https://code.launchpad.net/~rharding/launchpad/one_yui_instance/+merge/91111 when you get a sec? | 16:15 |
| abentley | rick_h: sure thing. | 16:15 |
| rick_h | abentley: ty | 16:16 |
| abentley | rick_h: Why "LPJS"? Wasn't it something else before? | 16:21 |
| rick_h | abentley: it was LPS before but it was brought up that LPS stands for something and isn't as clear | 16:21 |
| abentley | rick_h: r=me. | 16:21 |
| rick_h | abentley: ty | 16:22 |
| deryck | actually, it was always meant to be LPJS. But I can't type a J for some reason. And my sed command was wrong. ;) | 16:23 |
| deryck | and no one caught it or complained until recently. :) | 16:23 |
| sinzui | jcsackett, do you have a few minutes to mumble? | 16:34 |
| deryck | abentley, I'm triaging bugs. Bug 921213 looks like Bug 760735 to me. Do you agree? | 17:05 |
| _mup_ | Bug #921213: recipe does not build: make: Cannot open: Permission denied <Launchpad itself:Confirmed> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/921213 > | 17:05 |
| _mup_ | Bug #760735: Daily recipe: failure because of Permission denied accessing build/patch directories <recipe> <soyuz-build> <Launchpad itself:Fix Released by jelmer> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/760735 > | 17:05 |
| jelmer | deryck: they are | 17:07 |
| abentley | deryck: yes | 17:07 |
| deryck | abentley, jelmer thanks! | 17:08 |
| deryck | abentley, adeuring, rick_h -- I did my hour. yay me! :) I cleared project review, open bugs, and answered a couple questions. | 17:28 |
| adeuring | deryck: congrats! | 17:28 |
| rick_h | deryck: woot! | 17:28 |
| abentley | deryck: cool | 17:29 |
| jcsackett | sinzui: i can mumble now, sorry i was on the phone when you pinged earlier. | 17:42 |
| jcsackett | sinzui: are you still free? | 17:42 |
| sinzui | I am | 17:42 |
| * jcsackett fires up mumble | 17:43 | |
| lifeless | morning | 18:13 |
| mhall119 | can I check if a person is a canonical employee or not through the launchpadlib api, using the anonymous login? | 19:36 |
| james_w | no | 19:36 |
| mhall119 | ok, then I need to get an app authorized to access that | 19:55 |
| dobey | mhall119: authorized in what sense? you will only be able to see members of that team, if you are also a member of it, as it's a private team. | 19:59 |
| mhall119 | dobey: I'm adding to the script that builds bug stats for unity | 20:00 |
| mhall119 | I need to show the number MPs coming from community | 20:01 |
| jelmer | mhall119: have you seen the contributors script in Launchpad? | 20:01 |
| mhall119 | jelmer: no, does it involve zope? | 20:02 |
| lifeless | no, why would it? | 20:02 |
| jelmer | mhall119: IIRC it doesn't; it just looks at bzr commits in the mainline rather than merge proposals though | 20:02 |
| mhall119 | lifeless: because it's launchpad? | 20:02 |
| mhall119 | where can I see this? | 20:03 |
| jelmer | utilities/community-contributions.py in lp:launchpad | 20:03 |
| dobey | mhall119: you can probably check that the owner of the source branch with is_valid_reviewer() on the target branch, in a proposal | 20:03 |
| jelmer | mhall119: the result of that script is at http://dev.launchpad.net/Contributions | 20:04 |
| dobey | jelmer: if it returns true, the owner is part of the unity team, if it's false, the owner is community :) | 20:04 |
| mhall119 | jelmer: where can I see the script itself? | 20:04 |
| jelmer | mhall119: it's linked from the wiki page | 20:04 |
| mhall119 | dobey: what object has is_valid_reviewer? | 20:05 |
| mhall119 | dobey: ok, I see <branch>.iPersonTrustedReviewer | 20:06 |
| abentley | deryck: I'm OCR. Could you possibly review https://code.launchpad.net/~abentley/launchpad/fix-index-download/+merge/91160 ? | 20:06 |
| dobey | mhall119: yeah, sorry, isPersonTrustedReviewer | 20:06 |
| mhall119 | but that only tells me if someone is on the unity team, not if they're non-employees | 20:07 |
| dobey | mhall119: why does it matter if they're an employee or not? | 20:07 |
| mhall119 | dobey: because that's the metric my manager wants | 20:07 |
| deryck | abentley, sure | 20:08 |
| mhall119 | besides, I'm not even sure if everyone in the dx team would be isPersonTrustedReviewer on unity's trunk | 20:08 |
| abentley | deryck: thanks. | 20:08 |
| deryck | np! | 20:08 |
| dobey | mhall119: possibly not, but not everyone on dx works on unity, either | 20:09 |
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| mhall119 | dobey: right, so I don't think jono wants DX members who don't work on unity counted in this metric | 20:10 |
| dobey | *shrug* | 20:11 |
| deryck | abentley, r=me | 20:31 |
| abentley | deryck: thanks. | 20:32 |
| deryck | abentley, np! | 20:32 |
| lifeless | -> l'hopital | 20:39 |
| lifeless | bbiab | 20:39 |
| mhall119 | dobey: ok, I've got it working, now to optimize it | 20:41 |
| mhall119 | dobey: is there a way to pre-fetch all the people who can review lp:unity, and check against that for each MP against lp:unity | 20:41 |
| dobey | mhall119: you can get the default reviewer that's set for the branch, and branch owner, and compare against those (they might be different) | 20:45 |
| mhall119 | dobey: right, but it'll always be the same team as reviewer | 20:46 |
| mhall119 | so can I hit LP once to get all of the members of that team, and then check locally? | 20:46 |
| dobey | yes; your script should check both in case they are different. if you've already got the branch object, it shouldn't be expensive to see if they are the same. | 20:47 |
| dobey | (to save having to fix the code later, if you decide to run the script against a project which does have different values set) :) | 20:48 |
| mhall119 | how far back does <branch>.landing_candidates go? | 20:51 |
| mhall119 | and is that the best way to get a historical list of merge proposals | 20:53 |
| abentley | deryck, rick_h: Did my interrupt duties. Project review, some Questions, spam deletion, and I updated https://wiki.canonical.com/Launchpad/FeedbackMonitoring | 20:59 |
| deryck | abentley, awesome, thanks. | 21:00 |
| rick_h | StevenK: ping when you're around to chat make/js build dir stuff | 21:31 |
| StevenK | rick_h: Hmmmm? | 22:06 |
| === abentley changed the topic of #launchpad-dev to: https://dev.launchpad.net/ | On call reviewer: - | Firefighting: - | Critical bugtasks: 4*10^2 | ||
| StevenK | abentley: If you tag a bug as 'qa-bad', could you also add 'bad-commit-<revno>' ? | 22:21 |
| StevenK | abentley: Not trying to pick on you, it just keeps happening. I think a mail to -dev is in order. | 22:22 |
| abentley | StevenK: It seems absurd that I should need to. | 22:22 |
| StevenK | abentley: Why? Its needed for the qa-tagger if you rollback the branch | 22:25 |
| abentley | StevenK: Because there's only one revno I could possibly be talking about. | 22:26 |
| StevenK | abentley: No, there could be more -- land, qa-bad, rollback, land, qa-bad .... | 22:26 |
| StevenK | It has happened like that. | 22:26 |
| abentley | StevenK: I'm saying there *aren't* more. | 22:27 |
| abentley | StevenK: And at the time something is marked qa-bad, I don't think there's ambiguity either. | 22:28 |
| deryck_ | Later on, everyone. | 22:41 |
| wallyworld_ | rick_h: have you submitted your LPJS branch to ec2? | 23:02 |
| lifeless | StevenK: I agree, a mail to -dev is in order. | 23:29 |
| lifeless | StevenK: if the process is wrong / needs more automation, we can/should do that; but driving the tools inconsistently confuses folk and that consumes time and energy. | 23:30 |
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