[01:09] <mhall119> doctormon: I'm pretty sure launchpadlib was designed by the devil himself
[01:09] <mhall119> or maybe he just made lazr.restful
[01:09] <mhall119> either way you have to sell your soul to use it
[01:18] <nigelb> doctormon: Its maintained by Launchpad Team.
[01:21] <bkerensa> I can no longer say 12.04 is stable :P
[01:42] <mhall119> balloons: any idea why I don't have "unity testing" tool in my dash?
[01:43] <mhall119> I have System Testing
[01:43] <mhall119> is that the same thing?
[01:43] <bkerensa> I didnt have Unity Testing tool either
[01:53] <mhall119> bkerensa: are you on Unity 5.2?
[01:58]  * cjohnston is debating upgrading the lappy to precise
[01:59] <mhall119> cjohnston: I've been running it for a week
[01:59] <bkerensa> mhall119: When I had the PPA yes
[01:59] <mhall119> other than a PPA conflict between HUD testing and Unity 5.2 testing, I haven't had any problems
[01:59] <cjohnston> i have been on the desk
[01:59] <bkerensa> I have been using precise for a few weeks prior to Alpha 1 and have had minimal issues
[01:59] <mhall119> bkerensa: did you have the HUD ppa too?
[02:00] <bkerensa> mhall119: Yes
[02:00] <mhall119> that bit me pretty bad, yeah
[02:00] <mhall119> you have to ppa-purge the HUD ppa *before* installing the unity staging ppa
[02:00] <mhall119> otherwise everything goes wrong
[02:08] <bkerensa> ah
[02:36] <doctormon> mhall119: wonderful news, I can search for people on launchpad through a lens too.
[02:36] <mhall119> doctormon: nice!
[02:36] <mhall119> where's the code?
[02:39] <doctormon> mhall119: The lens code is out of branch, but lp:groundcontrol has a command line tool you can play with
[02:40] <doctormon> I'm working out this damn lens interface, I want it to run internally like all the other apis.
[02:40] <doctormon> So hold onto your hat because I know you're interested in seeing the lens rather than just the dbus.
[02:43] <mhall119> doctormon: I'm making a list of lenses, so I kind of want that code
[02:43] <doctormon> Yeah don't list it until it's there.
[02:45] <mhall119> if I list it, does that mean you have to hurry up and publish it?
[02:49] <doctormon> mhall119: That is an interesting question isn't it ;-)
[03:24] <doctormon> mhall119: Are you still here?
[03:24] <mhall119> depends, is your branch ready?
[03:28] <doctormon> mhall119: I'm wondering why your run_lens code is registering a bunch of dbus names. Quite complex stuff.
[03:28] <doctormon> I need to duplicate it since I won't be running from the command line but internally.
[03:29] <doctormon> But the Unity.Lens docs don't seem to mention this part.
[03:37] <mhall119> doctormon: you're running the lens code inside of groundcontrol?
[03:37] <mhall119> lenses operate over dbus
[03:37] <mhall119> it's how they communicate with the dash, and with scopes
[03:53] <doctormon> mhall119: Yes and yes
[03:53] <doctormon> My dbus objects look very different and the Unity.Lens documentation seems to suggest it takes care of registering the addresses.
[03:55] <doctormon> I think I'm going to try cutting out singlet and trying to use the Unity.Lens module directly.
[04:02] <mhall119> yeah, singlet is made to run stand-along processes, not sure how Lenses should work within another program
[05:17] <koolhead17> mhall119: ping
[05:25] <nigelb> He's probably asleep by now.
[06:53] <bkerensa> does anyone know what kwaimuk.canonical.com, mulberry.canonical.com, humboldt.canonical.com are? I noticed that my Ubuntu install is calling home to those hosts a lot even with Statistics Submission and U1 Sync disabled...
[07:21] <dpm> good morning all
[07:22] <benonsoftware> Hello dpm
[07:24] <dpm> hi benonsoftware
[08:05] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:09] <dpm> morning czajkowski
[08:09] <dpm> morgen dholbach, how was the first UDW day?
[08:09] <dholbach> good morning
[08:09] <dholbach> hey dpm
[08:10] <dholbach> dpm, awesome
[08:10] <dpm> that's what we like to hear :)
[08:10] <dholbach> when I was still there we had ~330 people
[08:10] <dholbach> lots of questions too :)
[08:10] <dpm> great
[08:14] <alourie> good morning
[08:21] <czajkowski> dpm: ello
[08:23] <dpm> hey :)
[08:23] <dpm> morning alourie
[08:23] <alourie> hi dpm
[08:34] <dholbach> Joeb454, happy birthday
[08:45] <jono> another marathon coding session is over :-)
[08:45] <jono> making solid progress on Ubuntu Accomplishments
[08:45] <jono> :-)
[08:45] <benonsoftware> How is it going?
[08:45] <jono> all going well :-)
[08:46] <jono> I now have most of the core system built - just need to work on the final verification piece next
[08:46] <benonsoftware> Cool
[08:47] <jono> right, heading to bed
[08:48] <dholbach> night jono! :)
[08:48] <benonsoftware> See you jono
[08:49] <jono> night all!
[10:39] <bkerensa> Good Night folks!
[10:41] <dholbach> night bkerensa
[12:54] <mhall119> bkerensa: what processes were calling them?
[13:20] <mhall119> dholbach: morning
[13:23] <dholbach> hey mhall119
[13:23] <dholbach> I got your mail, didn't have time yet to check into it
[13:23] <dholbach> today is a bit crazy
[13:23] <dholbach> are you sure you don't want to get access to the parts of cranberry yourself? :)
[13:23] <mhall119> that means more work for me though
[13:24] <nigelb> 230
[13:24] <nigelb> argh
[13:24] <dholbach> gotcha, I'll do it then
[13:24] <nigelb> dholbach: I vote you get mhall119 root on that machine... ;)
[13:27] <mhall119> dholbach: what all would I need access to?
[13:28] <dholbach> huats, can we move our call to maybe tomorrow or Friday?
[13:28] <huats> dholbach, sure
[13:28] <dholbach> mhall119, I guess you just need to be added to qa-team
[13:29] <huats> dholbach, Friday same time ?
[13:29] <dholbach> huats, I know that the wiki clean up is still ongoing and we need to do the announce, but apart from that things are looking good
[13:29] <dholbach> huats, sounds good to me - maybe just 10-15m to go through the trello board together and decide how we want to use it
[13:29] <dholbach> thanks a lot huats, I'm in a bit of hurry today :)
[13:29] <huats> dholbach, I would like to have some info on your syntax on trello :)
[13:29] <huats> so do I
[13:29] <huats> :)
[13:29] <huats> thanks to you
[13:29] <dholbach> hehe, great :)
[13:29] <dholbach> de rien, mon ami
[13:45] <huats> dholbach, regarding the wiki cleanup
[13:45] <huats> I am wondering what to do with old meetings logs...
[13:46] <dholbach> maybe just write a small wiki page saying:
[13:46] <dholbach> """This content is obsolete.
[13:46] <dholbach> The Mentoring programme was shut down.
[13:46] <dholbach> Here's what we do nowadays: <link to d-a-t>."""
[13:46] <dholbach> and include that on the pages
[13:46] <dholbach> or just remove the pages altogether
[13:49] <mhall119> dholbach: unity-stats appears to be a symlink to a directory in /home/dholbach/...
[13:50] <dholbach> I can move it somewhere else if you like - hang on
[13:52] <dholbach> ok, let me update the code now
[13:52] <dholbach> we can still look for another place
[13:53] <dholbach> mhall119, there's conflicts in the code?
[13:53] <dholbach> like in your merge proposal
[13:53] <huats> dholbach, this little text was also my idea
[13:54] <huats> I am glad you made some words on it
[13:54] <huats> thnaks
[13:54] <mhall119> dholbach: let me check
[13:59] <mhall119> dholbach: this is what I get for emailing a patch, bzr didn't know that my changes were already there
[13:59] <mhall119> dholbach: I re-based my branch, should be a clean merge now
[13:59] <dholbach> ok, just a sec
[14:02] <dholbach> thanks merged, running the script now
[14:06] <dholbach> benonsoftware, ready? :)
[14:11] <jcastro> hey dholbach
[14:11] <dholbach> hey jcastro
[14:11] <jcastro> what trello board are you on?
[14:11] <dholbach> currently none
[14:12] <dholbach> I mostly just use the one we use in the advisory team
[14:12] <jcastro> ah ok, I was afraid I was missing out on something, nm.
[14:12] <jcastro> DEVELOPER WEEK. \m/
[14:12] <jcastro> sorry I had to yell that out
[14:12] <mhall119> heh
[14:12] <dholbach> :)
[14:12] <dholbach> ok, need to take the dog for a walk
[14:13] <dholbach> brb
[14:50] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek day 2 starting in 10 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[15:08] <balloons> good luck dpm ;-)
[15:08] <dpm> thanks balloons ;)
[15:41] <jcastro> woo!
[15:41] <jcastro> Daviey: did you guys discuss #ubuntu-cloud and its fate your last meeting?
[15:42] <Daviey> jcastro: Sort of..
[15:42] <czajkowski> is it going up in the air :)
[15:45] <Daviey> we might rename it to #ubuntu-fog
[15:49] <czajkowski> yes cloud discussions do tend to be very foggy at times, very hard to see through the dense chatter ;)
[15:49] <akgraner> balloons, your call for testing posted to the Fridge this morning
[15:52] <Daviey> czajkowski: how poetic!
[15:52] <jcastro> Daviey: kill it!
[15:53] <jono> jcastro, dpm, dholbach, balloons, mhall119 - team hangout in 7 mins
[15:53] <balloons> akgraner, thank you :-)
[15:53] <Daviey> jcastro: I'll have an answer by tues EoD.. but i think it's a yes
[15:53] <dholbach> jono, I thought the team did a hangout yesterday already? :)
[15:54] <jono> dholbach, really?
[15:54] <jono> I wasn't there
[15:54] <dholbach> me neither :)
[15:54] <jono> then how was there a team hangout :-)
[15:54] <dholbach> seems we missed the irc meeting then :)
[15:54] <jono> yup
[15:54] <dholbach> the rest of the team hung out
[15:54] <czajkowski> Daviey: that'sthe Irish in me, all great poets come from there :)
[15:56] <jono> dholbach, so can you do the hangout?
[15:56] <dholbach> jono, si si
[15:56] <jono> cool
[15:56] <jono> jcastro, can't make it
[15:58] <dholbach> dpm is still surrounded with 240 people who want to learn more about apps in Ubuntu
[15:58] <jono> dpm, are you going to be too busy for the hangout?
[15:58] <dholbach> he should be finished in 2-3m
[15:59] <dpm> jono, I'm about to finish, I'll just be 2 mins late
[15:59] <jono> dpm, cool
[15:59] <dholbach> hang out is set up
[16:01] <jono> on my way
[16:02] <mhall119> plugging in
[16:03] <dpm> ok, answering the last questions on -chat, grabbing the headset and coming over
[16:28] <akgraner> jcastro - sorry to ask you for the millionth time - what is your presentation work around you were telling me about
[17:21] <dholbach> alright my friends - I call it a day - see you all tomorrow
[17:38] <jcastro> mhall119: yo
[17:38] <jcastro> akgraner: work around?
[17:39] <akgraner> yeah what were you using
[17:39] <akgraner> b/c impress is so broken
[17:39] <jcastro> oh
[17:39] <akgraner> you mentioned it at SCALE
[17:39] <jcastro> deck.js
[17:39] <akgraner> thanks
[17:39] <jcastro> but clint didn't like it
[17:41] <jcastro> http://jsbin.com/oxohev#slide1 is another one
[17:41] <jcastro> http://markdalgleish.com/projects/fathom/ and another one
[17:41] <jcastro> I haven't gone through them all and figured out which one is best
[17:42] <mhall119> jcastro: hey
[17:43] <jcastro> can you fill me in on what I missed with the hangout?
[17:43] <jcastro> aka. what did I get voluntold to do for global jam? :)
[17:43] <mhall119> lol
[17:43] <mhall119> what would ever make you think we'd do something like that?
[17:44] <jcastro> I would be disappointed otherwise. :)
[17:45] <balloons> jcastro, mostly just 80's hair band references.. and jono's lack of hair and voice to sing in said bands
[17:47] <jcastro> singing is a stretch
[17:47] <jcastro> I call it "screaming in key"
[17:50] <jono> harsh
[17:50] <jono> but fair.
[17:52] <mhall119> jcastro: mostly we were discussing ways of fostering a community of appreciation
[17:52] <mhall119> and recognition
[17:52] <jcastro> It's not meant be harsh, that's just the style of the music
[17:52] <jcastro> that is awesome
[17:53] <jcastro> I don't want to be sung to, I want to be rocked. \m/
[17:53] <jcastro> If I want to be sung to I'll watch OPERA.
[17:53] <jcastro> mhall119: ah excellent
[17:53] <mhall119> I want to not bleed out of my ears
[17:53] <jcastro> hey I added some accomplishment guidelines to the spec
[17:53] <jcastro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accomplishments/Trophies
[17:54] <mhall119> jono: you should make a self-referential trophy
[17:54] <mhall119> "Got a Trophy"
[17:54] <jono> mhall119, LOL
[17:54] <jono> that would be easy
[17:55] <mhall119> or "Wrote an Accomplishments script", then award it to yourself as soon as you're done
[17:55] <jcastro> That would be awesome
[17:55] <jcastro> "Trophy Crafter"
[17:55] <jono> thanks jcastro
[17:55] <jono> I made some big improvements on it this week
[17:55] <jono> I only have the U1 component to add and then the system should be working
[17:55] <jcastro> we could call it "Sauron". :)
[17:55] <jono> but I know how to do that
[17:56] <jono> the U1 bit is called the matrix :-)
[17:56] <jcastro> I tried to keep the guidelines lose but strict.
[17:56] <jono> but I need more accomplishments files
[17:56] <balloons> blue pill please
[17:56] <jcastro> it'd suck if people made dump trophies just to earn them
[17:56] <jono> jcastro, yeah, and we can fill those out more as we go forward
[17:56]  * jcastro nods
[17:56] <jono> jcastro, exactly, this is why this is called "accomplishments" instead of "achievements"
[17:56] <jcastro> I am hoping people get clever and humorous with it.
[17:56] <popey> i managed to file four bugs and get sequential bug numbers, I deserve an achievement :D
[17:56] <jono> I think so
[17:57] <jono> popey, LOL
[17:57] <jcastro> You know someone will make "SABDFLed" -- where Mark closes one of your bugs as opinion.
[17:57] <jcastro> that would be brilliant
[17:57] <mhall119> we need a "Shut it Down!" achievement,  just for popey
[17:58] <jcastro> "shut down more than 3 community resources."
[17:58] <mhall119> lol
[17:58] <popey> ☺
[17:58] <jcastro> tying into work items would be great too
[17:59] <jcastro> maybe a slightly embarrrassing trophy for people who never finish them would help us out. mwahaha.
[18:00] <jono> well the accomplishments scripts support multiple languages and now different types of auth data
[18:00] <jono> so it is pretty flexible
[18:00] <jono> when I finish the core system, I will document all of this
[18:00] <jcastro> "annoying guy at UDS that dominates the conversation for 40 minutes and then bails when it comes time to volunteer to work."
[18:00] <mhall119> "broke trunk"
[18:00]  * jcastro whistles
[18:00] <jono> maybe I should run a hangout to show it working?
[18:00] <jono> anyone wanna see it?
[18:01] <mhall119> too bad we can't record yet
[18:01] <jcastro> I'd like to but I can drop out if it'll give someone else a chance to join in
[18:01] <mhall119> jono: maybe a screencast and upload to youtube?
[18:01] <jono> mhall119, I plan on that in a bit
[18:01] <jono> jcastro, no worries
[18:01] <popey> \o/ hangout
[18:01] <jcastro> but yeah count me in
[18:02] <jono> one sec, while I set it up
[18:03] <jono> ok hangout set up on G+
[18:04] <jono> can I provide a link to it?
[18:04] <jcastro> https://talkgadget.google.com/hangouts/extras/talk.google.com/ubuntu%2520accomplishments%2520demo
[18:04] <jcastro> is what it tells me
[18:07] <jono> folks hangout is open for ubuntu accomplishments demo if you want to join
[18:07] <jono> it is in my timeline on G+
[18:08] <ahayzen> @jono: Well done with all the work on the accomplishments, really loving it. Will this application become default in Ubuntu at some point or will you have to install it?
[18:08] <meetingology> ahayzen: Error: "jono:" is not a valid command.
[18:08] <ahayzen> oh yeah no @ sign ;) ... always forget
[18:12] <jono> resent hangout
[18:25] <pleia2> cjohnston: what is the car situation for folks coming to LC? we're trying to pick a location and need to know if it needs to be walkable from the hotel
[19:04] <s-fox> Hello.
[19:21] <mhall119> jono: ping
[19:22] <jono> mhall119, hey
[19:23] <mhall119> jono: including all of the merged branches in the graph will make the other lines so far down you won't be able to get meaning out of them
[19:24] <jono> mhall119, ok, break out another graph then
[19:24] <jono> that's fine
[19:24] <mhall119> with just merged count?
[19:30] <jono> mhall119, yup
[19:35] <mhall119> 3/w 76
[19:37] <balloons> mhall119, when you had your compiz crash while testing unity -- where you able to manually report it and/or get a system log?
[19:37] <balloons> I know the apport tool likely yelled at you as running from a ppa, but I was wondering if you had the option to collect the info manually
[19:37] <balloons> perhaps by doing ubuntu-bug compiz?
[19:39] <balloons> it appears like that would work.. :-)
[19:51] <balloons> also mhall119, did you ever find unity testing app?
[19:56] <mhall119> balloons: nope
[19:56] <jono> my Ubuntu video Q+A is in a few mins at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/at-home-with-jono-bacon
[19:56] <mhall119> balloons: I assume it's in unity-team/ppa, but not unity-team/staging
[19:56] <mhall119> balloons: I didn't try manually reporting
[19:56] <jcastro> jono: I'll listen in!
[19:57] <mhall119> I wasn't sure if it would gather anythign useful after compiz has reloaded
[19:57]  * benonsoftware wishes he could listen in :(
[19:57] <balloons> mhall119, ahh.. yes the staging ppa
[19:57] <balloons> it's not in there
[19:57] <mhall119> jono: in order to check if a branch owner is canonical or not, I'm going to need to build authentication into daniel's stats collecting code
[19:58] <balloons> ok.. on the compiz thing, looks like manually running ubuntu-bug will work
[19:58] <jcastro> hah
[19:58] <mhall119> balloons: but what will that collect?
[19:58] <balloons> i can do it now.. I'm assuming I can do it in case of a crash
[19:58] <jcastro> "oh look I accidentally left that flying V on the couch."
[19:58] <balloons> if I did it right after a crash it should get the remnants of it.. perhaps not
[19:58] <mhall119> if compiz crashed, then successfully reloaded, and then I can ubuntu-bug, I assume it would see a happily running compiz
[19:59] <jcastro> "sorry I didn't mean to look like a rock star."
[19:59] <balloons> yes.. don't reload :-)
[19:59] <balloons> leave it crashed and go to tty1
[19:59] <mhall119> it reloads by itself
[19:59] <balloons> i thought you had the option?
[19:59] <balloons> at the least when it occurs you could go to tty1 and leave the msgbox hanging there right?
[20:00] <balloons> not-intuitive to say the least
[20:00] <mhall119> I just saw the unity bits flicker, disappear, then reappear
[20:01] <balloons> ahh.. you never got a compiz crashed box?
[20:03] <mhall119> balloons: after compiz came back up I got the apport dialog
[20:04] <balloons> gotcha.. yea, no good
[20:52] <pleia2> akgraner: trying to arrange a linaro connect meetup with california folks, will you be available for pizza dinner sunday evening?
[20:52] <pleia2> if so, what time is good for this thing? :)
[20:57] <jcastro> caffeine refill, be back in 10!
[21:05] <pleia2> jono: Christian Einfeldt sent you an email this morning (Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] 11 Ubuntu machines went live today in a school) about possibly meeting up tonight in SF
[21:06] <jono> pleia2, yeah, was on calls all day, will respond
[21:06] <jono> tonight is a problem I have rehearsal
[21:07] <pleia2> jono: oops, I meant *tomorrow* night
[21:07] <pleia2> and thanks :)
[21:13] <jono> pleia2, tomorrow I rehearse too - I am basically out of luck in the evenings as I rehearse Wed and Thu, play the show on Fri, and have dinner with friends on Sat and Sun
[21:46] <jcastro> jono: hey, UDS isn't that far away, we need to have a think about a jam song
[21:46] <jono> jcastro, indeed
[21:47] <jcastro> I was thinking something that doesn't take itself too seriously
[21:47] <jcastro> something "greendayish" but of course, not sucky
[21:51] <jcastro> <--- working on charm school content so going offline to concentrate: I leave you all with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O9zMnwD65Q
[21:55] <cjohnston> It's the end of the world as we know it
[21:58] <mhall119> alright, I'm off
[21:59] <cjohnston> iff?
[21:59] <cjohnston> off?
[21:59] <cjohnston> where do you think your going
[22:26] <jono> cprofitt, all set
[22:26] <jono> cprofitt, G+ still work for you?
[22:26] <cprofitt> sure
[22:26] <cprofitt> let me hook up camera
[22:29] <jono> cprofitt, invite sent
[22:30] <jono> cprofitt, keep losing you
[22:30] <cprofitt> its crashing... give me a minute
[22:50] <cprofitt> going to eat dinner all.
[22:51] <balloons> bye mhall119
[22:57] <bkerensa> Awesome Ubuntu Hour this Friday :D
[22:58] <bkerensa> Got Comp Sci students coming from three universities and the people who run Kernel.org :D
[23:03] <balloons> aweseome bkerensa!
[23:03] <bkerensa> indeed :D the best part is were having Pho for dinner :P
[23:07] <balloons> interesting...
[23:08] <bkerensa> balloons: Have you had Pho before?
[23:08] <balloons> i have not
[23:08] <balloons> but adding it to the list of things to try
[23:09] <balloons> in general I enjoy SE asian cuisine
[23:51] <cjohnston> pleia2: did you ever get a response from akgraner
[23:53] <pleia2> cjohnston: nope
[23:53] <cjohnston> :-(
[23:54] <pleia2> we'll have pizza sunday night, even if it's just you and me ;) but I do need to know about timing
[23:54] <cjohnston> I get there at 325..
[23:54] <cjohnston> so i gotta get to the hotel
[23:55] <pleia2> I'm thinking 6 or 7PM
[23:55] <pleia2> (they're open until 10)
[23:56] <MrChrisDruif> pleia2; got a minute?
[23:57] <MrChrisDruif> It's about that proof-reading that poem I talked about the other day
[23:58] <pleia2> MrChrisDruif: email it to me? I'm still at work and kinda busy this afternoon, but I can try to find time :)
[23:59] <MrChrisDruif> Thanks pleia2 , I'll send you the link
[23:59] <MrChrisDruif> ^_^