[01:09] doctormon: I'm pretty sure launchpadlib was designed by the devil himself [01:09] or maybe he just made lazr.restful [01:09] either way you have to sell your soul to use it [01:18] doctormon: Its maintained by Launchpad Team. [01:21] I can no longer say 12.04 is stable :P [01:42] balloons: any idea why I don't have "unity testing" tool in my dash? [01:43] I have System Testing [01:43] is that the same thing? [01:43] I didnt have Unity Testing tool either [01:53] bkerensa: are you on Unity 5.2? [01:58] * cjohnston is debating upgrading the lappy to precise [01:59] cjohnston: I've been running it for a week [01:59] mhall119: When I had the PPA yes [01:59] other than a PPA conflict between HUD testing and Unity 5.2 testing, I haven't had any problems [01:59] i have been on the desk [01:59] I have been using precise for a few weeks prior to Alpha 1 and have had minimal issues [01:59] bkerensa: did you have the HUD ppa too? [02:00] mhall119: Yes [02:00] that bit me pretty bad, yeah [02:00] you have to ppa-purge the HUD ppa *before* installing the unity staging ppa [02:00] otherwise everything goes wrong [02:08] ah [02:36] mhall119: wonderful news, I can search for people on launchpad through a lens too. [02:36] doctormon: nice! [02:36] where's the code? [02:39] mhall119: The lens code is out of branch, but lp:groundcontrol has a command line tool you can play with [02:40] I'm working out this damn lens interface, I want it to run internally like all the other apis. [02:40] So hold onto your hat because I know you're interested in seeing the lens rather than just the dbus. [02:43] doctormon: I'm making a list of lenses, so I kind of want that code [02:43] Yeah don't list it until it's there. [02:45] if I list it, does that mean you have to hurry up and publish it? [02:49] mhall119: That is an interesting question isn't it ;-) [03:24] mhall119: Are you still here? [03:24] depends, is your branch ready? [03:28] mhall119: I'm wondering why your run_lens code is registering a bunch of dbus names. Quite complex stuff. [03:28] I need to duplicate it since I won't be running from the command line but internally. [03:29] But the Unity.Lens docs don't seem to mention this part. [03:37] doctormon: you're running the lens code inside of groundcontrol? [03:37] lenses operate over dbus [03:37] it's how they communicate with the dash, and with scopes [03:53] mhall119: Yes and yes [03:53] My dbus objects look very different and the Unity.Lens documentation seems to suggest it takes care of registering the addresses. [03:55] I think I'm going to try cutting out singlet and trying to use the Unity.Lens module directly. [04:02] yeah, singlet is made to run stand-along processes, not sure how Lenses should work within another program [05:17] mhall119: ping [05:25] He's probably asleep by now. [06:53] does anyone know what kwaimuk.canonical.com, mulberry.canonical.com, humboldt.canonical.com are? I noticed that my Ubuntu install is calling home to those hosts a lot even with Statistics Submission and U1 Sync disabled... [07:21] good morning all [07:22] Hello dpm [07:24] hi benonsoftware [08:05] aloha [08:09] morning czajkowski [08:09] morgen dholbach, how was the first UDW day? [08:09] good morning [08:09] hey dpm [08:10] dpm, awesome [08:10] that's what we like to hear :) [08:10] when I was still there we had ~330 people [08:10] lots of questions too :) [08:10] great [08:14] good morning [08:21] dpm: ello [08:23] hey :) [08:23] morning alourie [08:23] hi dpm [08:34] Joeb454, happy birthday [08:45] another marathon coding session is over :-) [08:45] making solid progress on Ubuntu Accomplishments [08:45] :-) [08:45] How is it going? [08:45] all going well :-) [08:46] I now have most of the core system built - just need to work on the final verification piece next [08:46] Cool [08:47] right, heading to bed [08:48] night jono! :) [08:48] See you jono [08:49] night all! [10:39] Good Night folks! [10:41] night bkerensa === dholbach__ is now known as dholbach [12:54] bkerensa: what processes were calling them? [13:20] dholbach: morning [13:23] hey mhall119 [13:23] I got your mail, didn't have time yet to check into it [13:23] today is a bit crazy [13:23] are you sure you don't want to get access to the parts of cranberry yourself? :) [13:23] that means more work for me though [13:24] 230 [13:24] argh [13:24] gotcha, I'll do it then [13:24] dholbach: I vote you get mhall119 root on that machine... ;) [13:27] dholbach: what all would I need access to? [13:28] huats, can we move our call to maybe tomorrow or Friday? [13:28] dholbach, sure [13:28] mhall119, I guess you just need to be added to qa-team [13:29] dholbach, Friday same time ? [13:29] huats, I know that the wiki clean up is still ongoing and we need to do the announce, but apart from that things are looking good [13:29] huats, sounds good to me - maybe just 10-15m to go through the trello board together and decide how we want to use it [13:29] thanks a lot huats, I'm in a bit of hurry today :) [13:29] dholbach, I would like to have some info on your syntax on trello :) [13:29] so do I [13:29] :) [13:29] thanks to you [13:29] hehe, great :) [13:29] de rien, mon ami [13:45] dholbach, regarding the wiki cleanup [13:45] I am wondering what to do with old meetings logs... [13:46] maybe just write a small wiki page saying: [13:46] """This content is obsolete. [13:46] The Mentoring programme was shut down. [13:46] Here's what we do nowadays: .""" [13:46] and include that on the pages [13:46] or just remove the pages altogether [13:49] dholbach: unity-stats appears to be a symlink to a directory in /home/dholbach/... [13:50] I can move it somewhere else if you like - hang on [13:52] ok, let me update the code now [13:52] we can still look for another place [13:53] mhall119, there's conflicts in the code? [13:53] like in your merge proposal [13:53] dholbach, this little text was also my idea [13:54] I am glad you made some words on it [13:54] thnaks [13:54] dholbach: let me check [13:59] dholbach: this is what I get for emailing a patch, bzr didn't know that my changes were already there [13:59] dholbach: I re-based my branch, should be a clean merge now [13:59] ok, just a sec [14:02] thanks merged, running the script now [14:06] benonsoftware, ready? :) [14:11] hey dholbach [14:11] hey jcastro [14:11] what trello board are you on? [14:11] currently none [14:12] I mostly just use the one we use in the advisory team [14:12] ah ok, I was afraid I was missing out on something, nm. [14:12] DEVELOPER WEEK. \m/ [14:12] sorry I had to yell that out [14:12] heh [14:12] :) [14:12] ok, need to take the dog for a walk [14:13] brb [14:50] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek day 2 starting in 10 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom [15:08] good luck dpm ;-) [15:08] thanks balloons ;) [15:41] woo! [15:41] Daviey: did you guys discuss #ubuntu-cloud and its fate your last meeting? [15:42] jcastro: Sort of.. [15:42] is it going up in the air :) [15:45] we might rename it to #ubuntu-fog [15:49] yes cloud discussions do tend to be very foggy at times, very hard to see through the dense chatter ;) [15:49] balloons, your call for testing posted to the Fridge this morning [15:52] czajkowski: how poetic! [15:52] Daviey: kill it! [15:53] jcastro, dpm, dholbach, balloons, mhall119 - team hangout in 7 mins [15:53] akgraner, thank you :-) [15:53] jcastro: I'll have an answer by tues EoD.. but i think it's a yes [15:53] jono, I thought the team did a hangout yesterday already? :) [15:54] dholbach, really? [15:54] I wasn't there [15:54] me neither :) [15:54] then how was there a team hangout :-) [15:54] seems we missed the irc meeting then :) [15:54] yup [15:54] the rest of the team hung out [15:54] Daviey: that'sthe Irish in me, all great poets come from there :) [15:56] dholbach, so can you do the hangout? [15:56] jono, si si [15:56] cool [15:56] jcastro, can't make it [15:58] dpm is still surrounded with 240 people who want to learn more about apps in Ubuntu [15:58] dpm, are you going to be too busy for the hangout? [15:58] he should be finished in 2-3m [15:59] jono, I'm about to finish, I'll just be 2 mins late [15:59] dpm, cool [15:59] hang out is set up [16:01] on my way [16:02] plugging in [16:03] ok, answering the last questions on -chat, grabbing the headset and coming over [16:28] jcastro - sorry to ask you for the millionth time - what is your presentation work around you were telling me about [17:21] alright my friends - I call it a day - see you all tomorrow [17:38] mhall119: yo [17:38] akgraner: work around? [17:39] yeah what were you using [17:39] b/c impress is so broken [17:39] oh [17:39] you mentioned it at SCALE [17:39] deck.js [17:39] thanks [17:39] but clint didn't like it [17:41] http://jsbin.com/oxohev#slide1 is another one [17:41] http://markdalgleish.com/projects/fathom/ and another one [17:41] I haven't gone through them all and figured out which one is best [17:42] jcastro: hey [17:43] can you fill me in on what I missed with the hangout? [17:43] aka. what did I get voluntold to do for global jam? :) [17:43] lol [17:43] what would ever make you think we'd do something like that? [17:44] I would be disappointed otherwise. :) [17:45] jcastro, mostly just 80's hair band references.. and jono's lack of hair and voice to sing in said bands [17:47] singing is a stretch [17:47] I call it "screaming in key" [17:50] harsh [17:50] but fair. [17:52] jcastro: mostly we were discussing ways of fostering a community of appreciation [17:52] and recognition [17:52] It's not meant be harsh, that's just the style of the music [17:52] that is awesome [17:53] I don't want to be sung to, I want to be rocked. \m/ [17:53] If I want to be sung to I'll watch OPERA. [17:53] mhall119: ah excellent [17:53] I want to not bleed out of my ears [17:53] hey I added some accomplishment guidelines to the spec [17:53] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accomplishments/Trophies [17:54] jono: you should make a self-referential trophy [17:54] "Got a Trophy" [17:54] mhall119, LOL [17:54] that would be easy [17:55] or "Wrote an Accomplishments script", then award it to yourself as soon as you're done [17:55] That would be awesome [17:55] "Trophy Crafter" [17:55] thanks jcastro [17:55] I made some big improvements on it this week [17:55] I only have the U1 component to add and then the system should be working [17:55] we could call it "Sauron". :) [17:55] but I know how to do that [17:56] the U1 bit is called the matrix :-) [17:56] I tried to keep the guidelines lose but strict. [17:56] but I need more accomplishments files [17:56] blue pill please [17:56] it'd suck if people made dump trophies just to earn them [17:56] jcastro, yeah, and we can fill those out more as we go forward [17:56] * jcastro nods [17:56] jcastro, exactly, this is why this is called "accomplishments" instead of "achievements" [17:56] I am hoping people get clever and humorous with it. [17:56] i managed to file four bugs and get sequential bug numbers, I deserve an achievement :D [17:56] I think so [17:57] popey, LOL [17:57] You know someone will make "SABDFLed" -- where Mark closes one of your bugs as opinion. [17:57] that would be brilliant [17:57] we need a "Shut it Down!" achievement, just for popey [17:58] "shut down more than 3 community resources." [17:58] lol [17:58] ☺ [17:58] tying into work items would be great too [17:59] maybe a slightly embarrrassing trophy for people who never finish them would help us out. mwahaha. [18:00] well the accomplishments scripts support multiple languages and now different types of auth data [18:00] so it is pretty flexible [18:00] when I finish the core system, I will document all of this [18:00] "annoying guy at UDS that dominates the conversation for 40 minutes and then bails when it comes time to volunteer to work." [18:00] "broke trunk" [18:00] * jcastro whistles [18:00] maybe I should run a hangout to show it working? [18:00] anyone wanna see it? [18:01] too bad we can't record yet [18:01] I'd like to but I can drop out if it'll give someone else a chance to join in [18:01] jono: maybe a screencast and upload to youtube? [18:01] mhall119, I plan on that in a bit [18:01] jcastro, no worries [18:01] \o/ hangout [18:01] but yeah count me in [18:02] one sec, while I set it up [18:03] ok hangout set up on G+ [18:04] can I provide a link to it? [18:04] https://talkgadget.google.com/hangouts/extras/talk.google.com/ubuntu%2520accomplishments%2520demo [18:04] is what it tells me === koolhead17 is now known as koolhead17|zzZZ [18:07] folks hangout is open for ubuntu accomplishments demo if you want to join [18:07] it is in my timeline on G+ [18:08] @jono: Well done with all the work on the accomplishments, really loving it. Will this application become default in Ubuntu at some point or will you have to install it? [18:08] ahayzen: Error: "jono:" is not a valid command. [18:08] oh yeah no @ sign ;) ... always forget [18:12] resent hangout [18:25] cjohnston: what is the car situation for folks coming to LC? we're trying to pick a location and need to know if it needs to be walkable from the hotel [19:04] Hello. [19:21] jono: ping [19:22] mhall119, hey [19:23] jono: including all of the merged branches in the graph will make the other lines so far down you won't be able to get meaning out of them [19:24] mhall119, ok, break out another graph then [19:24] that's fine [19:24] with just merged count? === ashams_ is now known as ashams [19:30] mhall119, yup [19:35] 3/w 76 [19:37] mhall119, when you had your compiz crash while testing unity -- where you able to manually report it and/or get a system log? [19:37] I know the apport tool likely yelled at you as running from a ppa, but I was wondering if you had the option to collect the info manually [19:37] perhaps by doing ubuntu-bug compiz? [19:39] it appears like that would work.. :-) [19:51] also mhall119, did you ever find unity testing app? [19:56] balloons: nope [19:56] my Ubuntu video Q+A is in a few mins at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/at-home-with-jono-bacon [19:56] balloons: I assume it's in unity-team/ppa, but not unity-team/staging [19:56] balloons: I didn't try manually reporting [19:56] jono: I'll listen in! [19:57] I wasn't sure if it would gather anythign useful after compiz has reloaded [19:57] * benonsoftware wishes he could listen in :( [19:57] mhall119, ahh.. yes the staging ppa [19:57] it's not in there [19:57] jono: in order to check if a branch owner is canonical or not, I'm going to need to build authentication into daniel's stats collecting code [19:58] ok.. on the compiz thing, looks like manually running ubuntu-bug will work [19:58] hah [19:58] balloons: but what will that collect? [19:58] i can do it now.. I'm assuming I can do it in case of a crash [19:58] "oh look I accidentally left that flying V on the couch." [19:58] if I did it right after a crash it should get the remnants of it.. perhaps not [19:58] if compiz crashed, then successfully reloaded, and then I can ubuntu-bug, I assume it would see a happily running compiz [19:59] "sorry I didn't mean to look like a rock star." [19:59] yes.. don't reload :-) [19:59] leave it crashed and go to tty1 [19:59] it reloads by itself [19:59] i thought you had the option? [19:59] at the least when it occurs you could go to tty1 and leave the msgbox hanging there right? [20:00] not-intuitive to say the least [20:00] I just saw the unity bits flicker, disappear, then reappear [20:01] ahh.. you never got a compiz crashed box? [20:03] balloons: after compiz came back up I got the apport dialog [20:04] gotcha.. yea, no good [20:52] akgraner: trying to arrange a linaro connect meetup with california folks, will you be available for pizza dinner sunday evening? [20:52] if so, what time is good for this thing? :) [20:57] caffeine refill, be back in 10! [21:05] jono: Christian Einfeldt sent you an email this morning (Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] 11 Ubuntu machines went live today in a school) about possibly meeting up tonight in SF [21:06] pleia2, yeah, was on calls all day, will respond [21:06] tonight is a problem I have rehearsal [21:07] jono: oops, I meant *tomorrow* night [21:07] and thanks :) [21:13] pleia2, tomorrow I rehearse too - I am basically out of luck in the evenings as I rehearse Wed and Thu, play the show on Fri, and have dinner with friends on Sat and Sun [21:46] jono: hey, UDS isn't that far away, we need to have a think about a jam song [21:46] jcastro, indeed [21:47] I was thinking something that doesn't take itself too seriously [21:47] something "greendayish" but of course, not sucky === huats_ is now known as huats [21:51] <--- working on charm school content so going offline to concentrate: I leave you all with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O9zMnwD65Q [21:55] It's the end of the world as we know it [21:58] alright, I'm off [21:59] iff? [21:59] off? [21:59] where do you think your going [22:26] cprofitt, all set [22:26] cprofitt, G+ still work for you? [22:26] sure [22:26] let me hook up camera [22:29] cprofitt, invite sent [22:30] cprofitt, keep losing you [22:30] its crashing... give me a minute [22:50] going to eat dinner all. [22:51] bye mhall119 [22:57] Awesome Ubuntu Hour this Friday :D [22:58] Got Comp Sci students coming from three universities and the people who run Kernel.org :D [23:03] aweseome bkerensa! [23:03] indeed :D the best part is were having Pho for dinner :P [23:07] interesting... [23:08] balloons: Have you had Pho before? [23:08] i have not [23:08] but adding it to the list of things to try [23:09] in general I enjoy SE asian cuisine [23:51] pleia2: did you ever get a response from akgraner [23:53] cjohnston: nope [23:53] :-( [23:54] we'll have pizza sunday night, even if it's just you and me ;) but I do need to know about timing [23:54] I get there at 325.. [23:54] so i gotta get to the hotel [23:55] I'm thinking 6 or 7PM [23:55] (they're open until 10) [23:56] pleia2; got a minute? [23:57] It's about that proof-reading that poem I talked about the other day [23:58] MrChrisDruif: email it to me? I'm still at work and kinda busy this afternoon, but I can try to find time :) [23:59] Thanks pleia2 , I'll send you the link [23:59] ^_^