| GrueMaster | bladernr_: 20120131 is not a respin. Just late to the game. | 00:35 |
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| GrueMaster | Not sure if a respin was planned or just rumored. Probably safe to assume there will be one, but at this rate, it will be tomorrow. | 00:36 |
| GrueMaster | Since they respun ubuntu-core (the lowest form of ubuntu), i would assume everything has been triggered. | 00:39 |
| Patrickdk | heh, respin hell :) | 00:44 |
| Patrickdk | heh? currently on .3 | 00:44 |
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| Lirusaito | It seems as though 32-bit support has been broken... | 06:01 |
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| andymc73test | users | 11:06 |
| andymc73test | help | 11:06 |
| highvoltage | Please state the nature of your emergency. | 11:08 |
| andymc73test | sorry iiirc client snafu :~/ missed a slash key | 11:10 |
| Riddell | I am coming cross network-manager not successfully telling plymouth that it has started which causes plymouth to wait for ages on first boot, have ubuntu desktop testers come across this? | 11:39 |
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| PaoloRotolo | Hi all! | 14:11 |
| gogo__ | latest lubuntu alpha testing build shows unity interface...is it a bug or planned feature -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1918534 | 14:11 |
| gogo__ | lubuntu alpha 2 testing iso live mode http://i.imgur.com/flT9j.jpg | 14:13 |
| patdk-wk | they got respun yet again? | 14:15 |
| gogo__ | dun get you | 14:16 |
| patdk-wk | it's like the 6th respin of the server iso's | 14:16 |
| BluesKaj | hi all | 14:23 |
| BluesKaj | ssh into my other 12.04 pc connects fine but I have to use dbus-launch to load any text files or even folders , and they are very slow to load...reminicent of windows 95 on a 166mhz pc with 32mb of ram | 14:27 |
| BluesKaj | testing kde 4.8 , ssh target is 12.04 kde 4.7.4 | 14:32 |
| gogo__ | can someone else confirm that lubuntu alpha 2 testing iso is using Unity...is this a bug and unity packages are pulled in accidently? | 14:34 |
| stgraber | jibel: can you confirm you indeed had the same issue on libvirt: bug 856460 | 14:39 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 856460 in ltsp (Ubuntu) "ltsp-live fails to configure internal NIC (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/856460 | 14:39 |
| stgraber | jibel: I told highvoltage you did based on my comment asking for a "dumpxml" and based on some vague memory I had of our IRC discussion, but would prefer to be sure it wasn't limited to VBox | 14:40 |
| jibel | stgraber, I don't have that setup handy, and can't try it now. | 14:45 |
| jibel | leave it incomple I'll try to reproduce this issue before B1 | 14:45 |
| stgraber | jibel: thanks | 14:45 |
| jibel | *incomplete | 14:45 |
| jibel | stgraber, bug 924897 with alternate i386 | 14:46 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 924897 in ltsp (Ubuntu Precise) (and 1 other project) "ltsp-build-client initial setup failed on i386 : Unable to locate package linux-image-generic (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/924897 | 14:46 |
| jibel | not sure it's ltsp's fault | 14:46 |
| stgraber | could be the whole pae thingy | 14:47 |
| stgraber | doh, right, I know what's happening and it's not good | 14:47 |
| jibel | kernel package should be linux-image-generic-pae I guess | 14:48 |
| stgraber | most thin clients won't boot with a PAE kernel, so LTSP explicitly depends on the non-PAE kernel but I'm pretty sure we blacklisted it from the alternate | 14:48 |
| stgraber | jibel: right, but then you won't be able to boot half the hardware that's being used in production ;) | 14:48 |
| jibel | ah, that's a problem indeed. | 14:49 |
| stgraber | though I don't think we have much of a choice, I doubt people would be happy with me bringing a second kernel package on the CD just for LTSP | 14:49 |
| stgraber | people can always manually switch to non-PAE post-install | 14:50 |
| stgraber | jibel: mentioned it in #ubuntu-release. I'll prepare the change ... not really happy about it because it almost certainly showed up in some reports and was ignored (it's a depend of a package on the CD ...) | 14:53 |
| stgraber | ah, actually no, it's not a depend, it's installed from a ltsp-build-client script, now to figure out how to fix that... | 14:56 |
| bladernr_ | GrueMaster: just out of curiosity, I noticed that there's a generic armel image for Ubuntu Core, will that work on MX5 (since the other images state armel+omap3/4 or MX5) | 15:06 |
| GrueMaster | ubuntu-core is a very basic core image. No kernel, no fluf. It is designed as a base for developers to generate images from or use as a chroot. | 15:07 |
| GrueMaster | You could copy it to a sata drive on your mx53, then chroot into it and run apt-get to install all the packages needed to make it a full desktop. I haven't tried this but it is perfectly feasible. | 15:08 |
| bladernr_ | interesting... I wondered just how "core" core was going to be. My actual interest is that I'd like a server image for MX53... I don't really care for desktop on that because it's infuriatingly slow, but I'd thought about building a file/print server | 15:10 |
| bladernr_ | oh well, something to think about in my copious amounts of free time | 15:10 |
| GrueMaster | It wouldn't be too hard. chroot in, run apt-get update;apt-get install tasksel and then run tasksel to install the package bundles you seek. Also install the kernel and flash-kernel, then you should be able to make the system mount it as root from there fairly easily. | 15:13 |
| stgraber | highvoltage: I can't explain http://launchpad.net/bugs/924862 I'll have a look this afternoon, testing on my usual libvirt setup | 16:14 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 924862 in ltsp (Ubuntu) "LTSP Live guest login fails (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] | 16:14 |
| stgraber | highvoltage: only thing that changed since alpha-1 is the merge of ldm but that's just packaging change, binaries have been confirmed to be identical (to the byte) | 16:14 |
| GrueMaster | stgraber: Not needed immediately, but you might want to add ipv6 to the netinstall network-console module. When started, it only spews an ipv4 address. We may need this for arm server in the near future. | 16:40 |
| stgraber | GrueMaster: what package is that? not really sure what you're talking about ;) | 16:42 |
| GrueMaster | network-console udeb. It is enabled in the preseed with d-i anna/choose_modules string network-console | 16:43 |
| jibel | did anyone test a desktop install on hw with wireless only ? | 16:45 |
| GrueMaster | Definitely not something to worry about this week, but may want to add/fix before release. | 16:45 |
| brendand | jibel - do you need someone to? | 16:46 |
| brendand | jibel - which image? | 16:46 |
| jibel | brendand, that'd be great yes. any ubuntu desktop | 16:47 |
| brendand | jibel - ok, on it | 16:47 |
| jibel | brendand, in ubiquity at 'wireless' step, the password field is disabled when the user selects a network | 16:47 |
| jibel | brendand, I'm filing a bug | 16:47 |
| brendand | jibel - ok. put it here and i'll confirm it | 16:48 |
| stgraber | GrueMaster: ok, and that thing shows the IPv4 address on screen? I think I see how to change it in the code, though the code also covers kfreebsd and hurd, not too sure how these two work ;) | 16:48 |
| roadmr | jibel: so you beat me to filing the "invalid username" bug by about 7 hours :) | 16:48 |
| GrueMaster | stgraber: Like I said, not critical atm. I can test it when you have it uploaded though. | 16:49 |
| jibel | brendand, that's more an annoyance than a blocker because there's a popup asking for password when you click on continue but disturbing | 16:49 |
| jibel | roadmr, yeah, continuous testing :) | 16:50 |
| roadmr | jibel: awesome! cr3 is curious to know which tool you use to do preseeded install testing | 16:50 |
| jibel | cr3, we use https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server-iso-testing-dev | 16:51 |
| jibel | cr3, results are published here https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Precise%20ISO%20Testing%20Dashboard/view/Daily/? | 16:51 |
| jibel | cr3, and tests are triggered automatically when a new image is available from cdimage.u.c | 16:52 |
| cr3 | jibel: I should be looking at the lp:ubuntu-server-iso-testing branch, right? | 16:52 |
| cr3 | jibel: even though the name says "server", does it also handle preseeding ubiquity on the desktop image? | 16:52 |
| stgraber | GrueMaster: as you're actually using that stuff, can you confirm/close bug 557626 and file a bug for the IPv6 issue? | 16:53 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 557626 in network-console (Ubuntu) "Unable to get a shell (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/557626 | 16:53 |
| jibel | cr3, it's name is because of ... history :) | 16:53 |
| jibel | its | 16:53 |
| cr3 | jibel: any reason why you didn't use testdrive? | 16:54 |
| jibel | cr3, right main branch is lp:ubuntu-server-iso-testing and preseed/tests for desktop are in lp:~ubuntu-server-iso-testing-dev/+junk/testsuite-desktop | 16:54 |
| jibel | cr3, for automation ? | 16:55 |
| GrueMaster | stgraber: Worked here. | 16:55 |
| GrueMaster | Closed that bug. | 16:55 |
| stgraber | GrueMaster: thanks | 16:55 |
| cr3 | jibel: I don't know much about testdrive, I was under the impression it did preseeding | 16:56 |
| GrueMaster | (although I am not sure which network-console rev I am currently using). | 16:56 |
| jibel | cr3, I think testdrive is more a way to make iso testing easier for new comers | 16:57 |
| jibel | no sure it does preseeding | 16:57 |
| cr3 | jibel: I know it does crashing, which is what just happened on a system where I just tried it :) | 16:58 |
| cr3 | jibel: the templates in ubuntu-server-iso-testing looked familiar, then I noticed mathiaz in the bzr log... that explains it! | 17:00 |
| brendand | jibel - no, password is not disabled | 17:01 |
| GrueMaster | stgraber: Bug #924983 filed for your pleasure. | 17:01 |
| brendand | jibel - not if you select a network which needs one | 17:01 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 924983 in network-console (Ubuntu) "network-console doesn't output an ipv6 address when started. (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/924983 | 17:01 |
| brendand | jibel - if the network is open then you don't need to put a password | 17:02 |
| jibel | stgraber, another bug with resolvconf on livecd, argh :( | 17:02 |
| jibel | nameserver is set to 127.0.0.1 and not updated if wireless is enabled during install | 17:03 |
| stgraber | jibel: and? that's the expected value | 17:03 |
| jibel | stgraber, and nothing resolves | 17:03 |
| stgraber | jibel: ah, that'd be the bug ;) | 17:03 |
| stgraber | Network Manager runs dnsmasq on 127.0.0.1, so that part is correct | 17:04 |
| stgraber | cyphermox: ^ | 17:04 |
| jibel | if I disable/enable wireless then dns resolution works | 17:07 |
| jibel | I'll file a bug against n-m | 17:07 |
| jibel | stgraber, you're safe on this one | 17:07 |
| jibel | :) | 17:07 |
| stgraber | yeah! | 17:08 |
| jibel | brendand, I tried with a protected network | 17:09 |
| brendand | jibel - i don't know. it might be specific to that network. i can't confirm it | 17:11 |
| cr3 | roadmr: after looking at ubuntu-server-iso-testing, it doesn't look like we're duplicating much effort actually. their use-case is vastly different from ours because it is intended for integration with jenkins | 17:11 |
| cr3 | roadmr: as for testdrive, it doesn't look like we're duplicating effort there either. I just grepped the source and there's no trace of ubiquity, so chances are it doesn't preseed the desktop image | 17:12 |
| stgraber | cyphermox: for bug 924836 AFAICS ifupdown never did anything for interfaces that aren't defined in /etc/network/interfaces, not sure what used to emit the net-device-up | 17:12 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 924836 in network-manager (Ubuntu Precise) (and 3 other projects) "network-manager does not tell plymouth it has started (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/924836 | 17:12 |
| cr3 | roadmr: so, maintaining dpkg-offline makes sense | 17:12 |
| stgraber | cyphermox: oh, I think I know, NM runs the ifupdown hooks and that's what emits net-device-up | 17:14 |
| cyphermox | interesting. but nm should run those no matter what no? as long as there is some device up | 17:18 |
| cyphermox | eg. nm brings up a default wired device with dhcp | 17:18 |
| stgraber | cyphermox: indeed, not quite sure what's going on here but I'm pretty sure it's not ifupdown as the hook hasn't changed since Oneiric. | 17:19 |
| cyphermox | remember it wants static-net-device. or something | 17:20 |
| stgraber | cyphermox: I moved back to NM for now, would be worth getting a full syslog at least | 17:20 |
| cyphermox | yeah. | 17:20 |
| roadmr | cr3: yes, dpkg-offline rocks ! | 17:20 |
| cyphermox | im out for lunch for now | 17:20 |
| stgraber | cyphermox: static-network-up is emitted by /etc/network/if-up.d/upstart so if the run-parts actually works, it should be emitted | 17:20 |
| cyphermox | ill look as soon as im back | 17:21 |
| stgraber | cyphermox: thanks. Poke me if you think it's ifupdown related, I'm also out for lunch now. | 17:21 |
| cyphermox | weird thing is this hasnt changed in forever either | 17:22 |
| stgraber | cyphermox: yeah, which gets me wondering "does he actually have a working network?" :) | 17:22 |
| jibel | cyphermox, bug 924998 | 17:38 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 924998 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "no dns resolution when wireless connection is enabled by ubiquity (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/924998 | 17:38 |
| jibel | new Ubuntu alternate images are on the tracker | 17:45 |
| jibel | Server images published and ready for testing | 17:53 |
| patdk-wk | again? :( | 18:00 |
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| jibel | stgraber, ltsp-build-client failed with build 20120201.1 | 18:08 |
| jibel | same error | 18:08 |
| stgraber | jibel: argh, that's getting annoying... | 18:08 |
| stgraber | jibel: ok. I'll reproduce here and try to debug from there. thanks (I was still zsyncing) | 18:09 |
| patdk-wk | man, downloads are just flying today for me | 18:12 |
| patdk-wk | I don't think I have ever downloaded an ubuntu iso in under 2min before, even though my connection speed hasn't changed | 18:12 |
| astraljava | Are you sure you're not downloading the .zsync files instead? :) | 18:14 |
| patdk-wk | precise-desktop-amd64.iso | 18:15 |
| patdk-wk | 712.29M 100% 5.45MB/s 0:02:10 (xfer#1, to-check=0/1) | 18:15 |
| patdk-wk | sent 58 bytes received 712.53M bytes 5.38M bytes/sec | 18:15 |
| astraljava | (3.57 MB/s) - `precise-desktop-amd64.iso' | 18:20 |
| astraljava | That is pretty nice. | 18:20 |
| astraljava | Yours, I mean. | 18:20 |
| patdk-wk | normally I can't break 1 MB/s | 18:20 |
| patdk-wk | I have 150MB/s down bandwidth though | 18:21 |
| patdk-wk | oh, 150mbit/sec I mean :) | 18:21 |
| balloons | patdk-wk, wow.. what kind of a pipe are you on? | 18:21 |
| patdk-wk | it will be nice next month :) | 18:21 |
| patdk-wk | balloons, just cable modem | 18:22 |
| patdk-wk | 20mbit up, and 150mbit down | 18:22 |
| balloons | serious connection speed there | 18:22 |
| patdk-wk | when downloading from vmware I can actually max out that 150mbit | 18:22 |
| patdk-wk | taking my new servers and san down to the datacenter next weekend | 18:22 |
| patdk-wk | then all my testing is going be done from there | 18:22 |
| patdk-wk | I so don't feel like running these tests a 4th time :( | 18:24 |
| cyphermox | stgraber: should have worked. tried on my vm and got the same result | 18:34 |
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| GrueMaster | bladernr_: Any info on bug 925059? | 20:44 |
| ubot4 | GrueMaster: Error: Bug #925059 not found. | 20:44 |
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| bladernr_ | GrueMaster: not really... to be honest, I only filed it because apport fired automatically after I launced terminal from the app lens. | 20:59 |
| bladernr_ | GrueMaster: however, there are several very similar looking bugs so it's most likely not ARM specific | 21:00 |
| bladernr_ | GrueMaster: I expect it to be marked a duplicate of one of the others... | 21:00 |
| balloons | anyone ever use testdrive for iso testing? | 21:02 |
| GrueMaster | bladernr_: If it is the unity_lens crash, yea I filed a dup too. | 21:09 |
| bladernr_ | that would probably be it... I noticed there was another one filed just before mine (probably yours) | 21:09 |
| balloons | patdk-wk, i'm dl'ing the new isos now too.. 1 hour :-( your a bit quicker at 2 mins | 21:10 |
| astraljava | jibel: How do we get version updated in iso tracker? I just reported Studio's amd64 cases, but noticed _afterwards_ that the version was wrong. | 21:19 |
| jibel | astraljava, it's automatically updated when the image is published. looking | 21:20 |
| jibel | astraljava, version is 20120130 and build on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/dvd/ is also 20120130. | 21:23 |
| jibel | astraljava, it matches, when was the last respin of studio ? | 21:23 |
| astraljava | jibel: Yes, but there are images for 20120201.1 already. | 21:23 |
| jibel | astraljava, right, I'll grab a new pair of eyes :) | 21:24 |
| astraljava | Heheh. :) | 21:24 |
| jibel | stgraber, ^ | 21:24 |
| jibel | stgraber, the tracker was not updated with the latest build id for studio which is 20120201.1 | 21:25 |
| jibel | stgraber, dvd replaced alternate | 21:25 |
| jibel | astraljava, I'll update it manually | 21:25 |
| stgraber | jibel: right, could be some magic missing on nasukan | 21:25 |
| astraljava | jibel: Thanks! | 21:26 |
| stgraber | No iso.qa.ubuntu.com product found for ubuntustudio/dvd/precise-dvd-amd64; skipping. | 21:26 |
| stgraber | No iso.qa.ubuntu.com product found for ubuntustudio/dvd/precise-dvd-i386; skipping. | 21:26 |
| jibel | astraljava, done | 21:26 |
| astraljava | Excellent, thanks guys! | 21:27 |
| * jibel finds 20120201.1 too difficult to read. too many 2's and 1's | 21:27 | |
| jibel | new ubuntu alternates on the tracker. yay \o/ | 21:44 |
| jibel | anyone ? | 21:44 |
| albrigha | jibel: I'm doing alt install now | 21:50 |
| albrigha | well just finished, doing the resize test | 21:50 |
| jibel | albrigha, great. Could you do "Entire disk with encryption" ? | 21:52 |
| albrigha | jibel: yes I'll do that one next, if that's cool | 21:58 |
| jibel | roadmr, around ? | 22:07 |
| roadmr | jibel: yep! how can I help? | 22:07 |
| jibel | roadmr, about bug 924535, how do you preseed the password ? | 22:08 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 924535 in casper (Ubuntu Precise) (and 1 other project) "desktop preseeded installation stops at user setup since build 20120131 (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 14)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/924535 | 22:08 |
| roadmr | jibel: our preseed has d-i passwd/user-password-crypted password blahblah | 22:10 |
| roadmr | where blahblah is obtained by "md5pass whatever-password-you-need" | 22:11 |
| jibel | roadmr, could you check it's fixed for you then ? | 22:11 |
| roadmr | jibel: sure! I'm actually downloading the images now | 22:12 |
| jibel | stgraber, ltsp on i386 is ok | 22:14 |
| stgraber | first good news of the day ;) | 22:15 |
| roadmr | jibel: testing now... | 22:16 |
| roadmr | jibel: it seems to have made it past the troublesome point, I'll wait for the install to finish and report again | 22:20 |
| jibel | roadmr, ok cool. thanks for the confirmation. | 22:20 |
| roadmr | jibel: I may have to leave before the install finishes, but it's well beyond the point where it failed before, so I think we're golden! | 22:30 |
| jibel | roadmr, I think it's good at this point. Thanks for helping ! | 22:31 |
| roadmr | jibel: np, glad to help :) | 22:31 |
| roadmr | jibel: ok, super-confirmed, it installs OK. Gotta leave now, good night! | 22:37 |
| balloons | i was doing alt with encryption.. I should have been paying more attention to chat :-) | 22:43 |
| jibel | balloons, I think we're good with alternate. Now desktop needs testing | 22:47 |
| jibel | and kubuntu, lubuntu, mythbuntu, ubuntu sutdio, xubuntu too ... | 22:47 |
| balloons | k -- I am sadly on a slow connection, so dl'ing takes a bit for me | 22:47 |
| albrigha | I've started on desktop as well | 22:48 |
| balloons | i will once my dl finishes | 22:50 |
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| zzecool | Hello guys i think i found a bug in precise can someone help me to see if he can reproduce it to his machine? | 23:25 |
| albrigha | jibel: is desktop done? alt encrypted home works | 23:48 |
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