[00:35] <GrueMaster> bladernr_: 20120131 is not a respin.  Just late to the game.
[00:36] <GrueMaster> Not sure if a respin was planned or just rumored.  Probably safe to assume there will be one, but at this rate, it will be tomorrow.
[00:39] <GrueMaster> Since they respun ubuntu-core (the lowest form of ubuntu), i would assume everything has been triggered.
[00:44] <Patrickdk> heh, respin hell :)
[00:44] <Patrickdk> heh? currently on .3
[06:01] <Lirusaito> It seems as though 32-bit support has been broken...
[11:06] <andymc73test> users
[11:06] <andymc73test> help
[11:08] <highvoltage> Please state the nature of your emergency.
[11:10] <andymc73test> sorry iiirc client snafu :~/ missed a slash key
[11:39] <Riddell> I am coming cross network-manager not successfully telling plymouth that it has started which causes plymouth to wait for ages on first boot, have ubuntu desktop testers come across this?
[14:11] <PaoloRotolo> Hi all!
[14:11] <gogo__> latest lubuntu alpha testing build shows unity interface...is it a bug or planned feature -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1918534
[14:13] <gogo__> lubuntu alpha 2 testing iso live mode http://i.imgur.com/flT9j.jpg
[14:15] <patdk-wk> they got respun yet again?
[14:16] <gogo__> dun get you
[14:16] <patdk-wk> it's like the 6th respin of the server iso's
[14:23] <BluesKaj> hi all
[14:27] <BluesKaj> ssh into my other 12.04 pc connects fine but I have to use dbus-launch to load any text files or even folders , and they are very slow to load...reminicent of windows 95 on a 166mhz pc with 32mb of ram
[14:32] <BluesKaj> testing kde 4.8 , ssh target is 12.04 kde 4.7.4
[14:34] <gogo__> can someone else confirm that lubuntu alpha 2 testing iso is using Unity...is this a bug and unity packages are pulled in accidently?
[14:39] <stgraber> jibel: can you confirm you indeed had the same issue on libvirt: bug 856460
[14:39] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 856460 in ltsp (Ubuntu) "ltsp-live fails to configure internal NIC (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/856460
[14:40] <stgraber> jibel: I told highvoltage you did based on my comment asking for a "dumpxml" and based on some vague memory I had of our IRC discussion, but would prefer to be sure it wasn't limited to VBox
[14:45] <jibel> stgraber, I don't have that setup handy, and can't try it now.
[14:45] <jibel> leave it incomple I'll try to reproduce this issue before B1
[14:45] <stgraber> jibel: thanks
[14:45] <jibel> *incomplete
[14:46] <jibel> stgraber, bug 924897 with alternate i386
[14:46] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 924897 in ltsp (Ubuntu Precise) (and 1 other project) "ltsp-build-client initial setup failed on i386 : Unable to locate package linux-image-generic (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/924897
[14:46] <jibel> not sure it's ltsp's fault
[14:47] <stgraber> could be the whole pae thingy
[14:47] <stgraber> doh, right, I know what's happening and it's not good
[14:48] <jibel> kernel package should be linux-image-generic-pae I guess
[14:48] <stgraber> most thin clients won't boot with a PAE kernel, so LTSP explicitly depends on the non-PAE kernel but I'm pretty sure we blacklisted it from the alternate
[14:48] <stgraber> jibel: right, but then you won't be able to boot half the hardware that's being used in production ;)
[14:49] <jibel> ah, that's a problem indeed.
[14:49] <stgraber> though I don't think we have much of a choice, I doubt people would be happy with me bringing a second kernel package on the CD just for LTSP
[14:50] <stgraber> people can always manually switch to non-PAE post-install
[14:53] <stgraber> jibel: mentioned it in #ubuntu-release. I'll prepare the change ... not really happy about it because it almost certainly showed up in some reports and was ignored (it's a depend of a package on the CD ...)
[14:56] <stgraber> ah, actually no, it's not a depend, it's installed from a ltsp-build-client script, now to figure out how to fix that...
[15:06] <bladernr_> GrueMaster:  just out of curiosity, I noticed that there's a generic armel image for Ubuntu Core, will that work on MX5 (since the other images state armel+omap3/4 or MX5)
[15:07] <GrueMaster> ubuntu-core is a very basic core image.  No kernel, no fluf.  It is designed as a base for developers to generate images from or use as a chroot.
[15:08] <GrueMaster> You could copy it to a sata drive on your mx53, then chroot into it and run apt-get to install all the packages needed to make it a full desktop.  I haven't tried this but it is perfectly feasible.
[15:10] <bladernr_> interesting... I wondered just how "core" core was going to be.  My actual interest is that I'd like a server image for MX53... I don't really care for desktop on that because it's infuriatingly slow, but I'd thought about building a file/print server
[15:10] <bladernr_> oh well, something to think about in my copious amounts of free time
[15:13] <GrueMaster> It wouldn't be too hard.  chroot in, run apt-get update;apt-get install tasksel and then run tasksel to install the package bundles you seek.  Also install the kernel and flash-kernel, then you should be able to make the system mount it as root from there fairly easily.
[16:14] <stgraber> highvoltage: I can't explain http://launchpad.net/bugs/924862 I'll have a look this afternoon, testing on my usual libvirt setup
[16:14] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 924862 in ltsp (Ubuntu) "LTSP Live guest login fails (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[16:14] <stgraber> highvoltage: only thing that changed since alpha-1 is the merge of ldm but that's just packaging change, binaries have been confirmed to be identical (to the byte)
[16:40] <GrueMaster> stgraber: Not needed immediately, but you might want to add ipv6 to the netinstall network-console module.  When started, it only spews an ipv4 address.  We may need this for arm server in the near future.
[16:42] <stgraber> GrueMaster: what package is that? not really sure what you're talking about ;)
[16:43] <GrueMaster> network-console udeb.  It is enabled in the preseed with d-i anna/choose_modules string network-console
[16:45] <jibel> did anyone test a desktop install on hw with wireless only ?
[16:45] <GrueMaster> Definitely not something to worry about this week, but may want to add/fix before release.
[16:46] <brendand> jibel - do you need someone to?
[16:46] <brendand> jibel - which image?
[16:47] <jibel> brendand, that'd be great yes. any ubuntu desktop
[16:47] <brendand> jibel - ok, on it
[16:47] <jibel> brendand, in ubiquity at 'wireless' step, the password field is disabled when the user selects a network
[16:47] <jibel> brendand, I'm filing a bug
[16:48] <brendand> jibel - ok. put it here and i'll confirm it
[16:48] <stgraber> GrueMaster: ok, and that thing shows the IPv4 address on screen? I think I see how to change it in the code, though the code also covers kfreebsd and hurd, not too sure how these two work ;)
[16:48] <roadmr> jibel: so you beat me to filing the "invalid username" bug by about 7 hours :)
[16:49] <GrueMaster> stgraber: Like I said, not critical atm.  I can test it when you have it uploaded though.
[16:49] <jibel> brendand, that's more an annoyance than a blocker because there's a popup asking for password when you click on continue but disturbing
[16:50] <jibel> roadmr, yeah, continuous testing :)
[16:50] <roadmr> jibel: awesome! cr3 is curious to know which tool you use to do preseeded install testing
[16:51] <jibel> cr3, we use https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server-iso-testing-dev
[16:51] <jibel> cr3, results are published here https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Precise%20ISO%20Testing%20Dashboard/view/Daily/?
[16:52] <jibel> cr3, and tests are triggered automatically when a new image is available from cdimage.u.c
[16:52] <cr3> jibel: I should be looking at the lp:ubuntu-server-iso-testing branch, right?
[16:52] <cr3> jibel: even though the name says "server", does it also handle preseeding ubiquity on the desktop image?
[16:53] <stgraber> GrueMaster: as you're actually using that stuff, can you confirm/close bug 557626 and file a bug for the IPv6 issue?
[16:53] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 557626 in network-console (Ubuntu) "Unable to get a shell (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/557626
[16:53] <jibel> cr3, it's name is because of ... history :)
[16:53] <jibel> its
[16:54] <cr3> jibel: any reason why you didn't use testdrive?
[16:54] <jibel> cr3, right main branch is lp:ubuntu-server-iso-testing  and preseed/tests for desktop are in lp:~ubuntu-server-iso-testing-dev/+junk/testsuite-desktop
[16:55] <jibel> cr3, for automation ?
[16:55] <GrueMaster> stgraber: Worked here.
[16:55] <GrueMaster> Closed that bug.
[16:55] <stgraber> GrueMaster: thanks
[16:56] <cr3> jibel: I don't know much about testdrive, I was under the impression it did preseeding
[16:56] <GrueMaster> (although I am not sure which network-console rev I am currently using).
[16:57] <jibel> cr3, I think testdrive is more a way to make iso testing easier for new comers
[16:57] <jibel> no sure it does preseeding
[16:58] <cr3> jibel: I know it does crashing, which is what just happened on a system where I just tried it :)
[17:00] <cr3> jibel: the templates in ubuntu-server-iso-testing looked familiar, then I noticed mathiaz in the bzr log... that explains it!
[17:01] <brendand> jibel - no, password is not disabled
[17:01] <GrueMaster> stgraber: Bug #924983 filed for your pleasure.
[17:01] <brendand> jibel - not if you select a network which needs one
[17:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 924983 in network-console (Ubuntu) "network-console doesn't output an ipv6 address when started. (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/924983
[17:02] <brendand> jibel - if the network is open then you don't need to put a password
[17:02] <jibel> stgraber, another bug with resolvconf on livecd, argh :(
[17:03] <jibel> nameserver is set to 127.0.0.1 and not updated if wireless is enabled during install
[17:03] <stgraber> jibel: and? that's the expected value
[17:03] <jibel> stgraber, and nothing resolves
[17:03] <stgraber> jibel: ah, that'd be the bug ;)
[17:04] <stgraber> Network Manager runs dnsmasq on 127.0.0.1, so that part is correct
[17:04] <stgraber> cyphermox: ^
[17:07] <jibel> if I disable/enable wireless then dns resolution works
[17:07] <jibel> I'll file a bug against n-m
[17:07] <jibel> stgraber, you're safe on this one
[17:07] <jibel> :)
[17:08] <stgraber> yeah!
[17:09] <jibel> brendand, I tried with a protected network
[17:11] <brendand> jibel - i don't know. it might be specific to that network. i can't confirm it
[17:11] <cr3> roadmr: after looking at ubuntu-server-iso-testing, it doesn't look like we're duplicating much effort actually. their use-case is vastly different from ours because it is intended for integration with jenkins
[17:12] <cr3> roadmr: as for testdrive, it doesn't look like we're duplicating effort there either. I just grepped the source and there's no trace of ubiquity, so chances are it doesn't preseed the desktop image
[17:12] <stgraber> cyphermox: for bug 924836 AFAICS ifupdown never did anything for interfaces that aren't defined in /etc/network/interfaces, not sure what used to emit the net-device-up
[17:12] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 924836 in network-manager (Ubuntu Precise) (and 3 other projects) "network-manager does not tell plymouth it has started (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/924836
[17:12] <cr3> roadmr: so, maintaining dpkg-offline makes sense
[17:14] <stgraber> cyphermox: oh, I think I know, NM runs the ifupdown hooks and that's what emits net-device-up
[17:18] <cyphermox> interesting. but nm should run those no matter what no? as long as there is some device up
[17:18] <cyphermox> eg. nm brings up a default wired device with dhcp
[17:19] <stgraber> cyphermox: indeed, not quite sure what's going on here but I'm pretty sure it's not ifupdown as the hook hasn't changed since Oneiric.
[17:20] <cyphermox> remember it wants static-net-device. or something
[17:20] <stgraber> cyphermox: I moved back to NM for now, would be worth getting a full syslog at least
[17:20] <cyphermox> yeah.
[17:20] <roadmr> cr3: yes, dpkg-offline rocks !
[17:20] <cyphermox> im out for lunch for now
[17:20] <stgraber> cyphermox: static-network-up is emitted by /etc/network/if-up.d/upstart so if the run-parts actually works, it should be emitted
[17:21] <cyphermox> ill look as soon as im back
[17:21] <stgraber> cyphermox: thanks. Poke me if you think it's ifupdown related, I'm also out for lunch now.
[17:22] <cyphermox> weird thing is this hasnt changed in forever either
[17:22] <stgraber> cyphermox: yeah, which gets me wondering "does he actually have a working network?" :)
[17:38] <jibel> cyphermox, bug 924998
[17:38] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 924998 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "no dns resolution when wireless connection is enabled by ubiquity (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/924998
[17:45] <jibel> new Ubuntu alternate images are on the tracker
[17:53] <jibel> Server images published and ready for testing
[18:00] <patdk-wk> again? :(
[18:08] <jibel> stgraber, ltsp-build-client failed with build 20120201.1
[18:08] <jibel> same error
[18:08] <stgraber> jibel: argh, that's getting annoying...
[18:09] <stgraber> jibel: ok. I'll reproduce here and try to debug from there. thanks (I was still zsyncing)
[18:12] <patdk-wk> man, downloads are just flying today for me
[18:12] <patdk-wk> I don't think I have ever downloaded an ubuntu iso in under 2min before, even though my connection speed hasn't changed
[18:14] <astraljava> Are you sure you're not downloading the .zsync files instead? :)
[18:15] <patdk-wk> precise-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:15] <patdk-wk>      712.29M 100%    5.45MB/s    0:02:10 (xfer#1, to-check=0/1)
[18:15] <patdk-wk> sent 58 bytes  received 712.53M bytes  5.38M bytes/sec
[18:20] <astraljava> (3.57 MB/s) - `precise-desktop-amd64.iso'
[18:20] <astraljava> That is pretty nice.
[18:20] <astraljava> Yours, I mean.
[18:20] <patdk-wk> normally I can't break 1 MB/s
[18:21] <patdk-wk> I have 150MB/s down bandwidth though
[18:21] <patdk-wk> oh, 150mbit/sec I mean :)
[18:21] <balloons> patdk-wk, wow.. what kind of a pipe are you on?
[18:21] <patdk-wk> it will be nice next month :)
[18:22] <patdk-wk> balloons, just cable modem
[18:22] <patdk-wk> 20mbit up, and 150mbit down
[18:22] <balloons> serious connection speed there
[18:22] <patdk-wk> when downloading from vmware I can actually max out that 150mbit
[18:22] <patdk-wk> taking my new servers and san down to the datacenter next weekend
[18:22] <patdk-wk> then all my testing is going be done from there
[18:24] <patdk-wk> I so don't feel like running these tests a 4th time :(
[18:34] <cyphermox> stgraber: should have worked. tried on my vm and got the same result
[20:44] <GrueMaster> bladernr_: Any info on bug 925059?
[20:44] <ubot4> GrueMaster: Error: Bug #925059 not found.
[20:59] <bladernr_> GrueMaster:  not really... to be honest, I only filed it because apport fired automatically after I launced terminal from the app lens.
[21:00] <bladernr_> GrueMaster:  however, there are several very similar looking bugs so it's most likely not ARM specific
[21:00] <bladernr_> GrueMaster:  I expect it to be marked a duplicate of one of the others...
[21:02] <balloons> anyone ever use testdrive for iso testing?
[21:09] <GrueMaster> bladernr_: If it is the unity_lens crash, yea I filed a dup too.
[21:09] <bladernr_> that would probably be it... I noticed there was another one filed just before mine (probably yours)
[21:10] <balloons> patdk-wk, i'm dl'ing the new isos now too.. 1 hour :-(  your a bit quicker at 2 mins
[21:19] <astraljava> jibel: How do we get version updated in iso tracker? I just reported Studio's amd64 cases, but noticed _afterwards_ that the version was wrong.
[21:20] <jibel> astraljava, it's automatically updated when the image is published. looking
[21:23] <jibel> astraljava, version is 20120130 and build on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/dvd/ is also 20120130.
[21:23] <jibel> astraljava, it matches, when was the last respin of studio ?
[21:23] <astraljava> jibel: Yes, but there are images for 20120201.1 already.
[21:24] <jibel> astraljava, right, I'll grab a new pair of eyes :)
[21:24] <astraljava> Heheh. :)
[21:24] <jibel> stgraber, ^
[21:25] <jibel> stgraber, the tracker was not updated with the latest build id for studio which is 20120201.1
[21:25] <jibel> stgraber, dvd replaced alternate
[21:25] <jibel> astraljava, I'll update it manually
[21:25] <stgraber> jibel: right, could be some magic missing on nasukan
[21:26] <astraljava> jibel: Thanks!
[21:26] <stgraber> No iso.qa.ubuntu.com product found for ubuntustudio/dvd/precise-dvd-amd64; skipping.
[21:26] <stgraber> No iso.qa.ubuntu.com product found for ubuntustudio/dvd/precise-dvd-i386; skipping.
[21:26] <jibel> astraljava, done
[21:27] <astraljava> Excellent, thanks guys!
[21:27]  * jibel finds 20120201.1 too difficult to read. too many 2's and 1's
[21:44] <jibel> new ubuntu alternates on the tracker. yay \o/
[21:44] <jibel> anyone ?
[21:50] <albrigha> jibel: I'm doing alt install now
[21:50] <albrigha> well just finished, doing the resize test
[21:52] <jibel> albrigha, great. Could you do "Entire disk with encryption" ?
[21:58] <albrigha> jibel: yes I'll do that one next, if that's cool
[22:07] <jibel> roadmr, around ?
[22:07] <roadmr> jibel: yep! how can I help?
[22:08] <jibel> roadmr, about bug 924535, how do you preseed the password ?
[22:08] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 924535 in casper (Ubuntu Precise) (and 1 other project) "desktop preseeded installation stops at user setup since build 20120131 (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 14)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/924535
[22:10] <roadmr> jibel: our preseed has d-i passwd/user-password-crypted password blahblah
[22:11] <roadmr> where blahblah is obtained by "md5pass whatever-password-you-need"
[22:11] <jibel> roadmr, could you check it's fixed for you then ?
[22:12] <roadmr> jibel: sure! I'm actually downloading the images now
[22:14] <jibel> stgraber, ltsp on i386 is ok
[22:15] <stgraber> first good news of the day ;)
[22:16] <roadmr> jibel: testing now...
[22:20] <roadmr> jibel: it seems to have made it past the troublesome point, I'll wait for the install to finish and report again
[22:20] <jibel> roadmr, ok cool. thanks for the confirmation.
[22:30] <roadmr> jibel: I may have to leave before the install finishes, but it's well beyond the point where it failed before, so I think we're golden!
[22:31] <jibel> roadmr, I think it's good at this point. Thanks for helping !
[22:31] <roadmr> jibel: np, glad to help :)
[22:37] <roadmr> jibel: ok, super-confirmed, it installs OK. Gotta leave now, good night!
[22:43] <balloons> i was doing alt with encryption.. I should have been paying more attention to chat :-)
[22:47] <jibel> balloons, I think we're good with alternate. Now desktop needs testing
[22:47] <jibel> and kubuntu, lubuntu, mythbuntu, ubuntu sutdio, xubuntu too ...
[22:47] <balloons> k -- I am sadly on a slow connection, so dl'ing takes a bit for me
[22:48] <albrigha> I've started on desktop as well
[22:50] <balloons> i will once my dl finishes
[23:25] <zzecool> Hello guys  i think i found a bug in precise can someone help me to see if he can reproduce it to his machine?
[23:48] <albrigha> jibel: is desktop done? alt encrypted home works