[00:00] <javier_> israel: ok, thanks!
[00:00] <DinoMuffin> lotus-blade: sudo mkdir /media/cdimg ; sudo mount <iso image here> /media/cdimg
[00:01] <javier_> someone else has any idea, how to fix it? Repeat: I installed banshee-extension-clutterflow, everything fine, I changed some of its options and then I can't open banshee (except if I uninstall the extension, which I still would like to use). Ideas about to fix that?
[00:01] <israel> javier_: you can try, sudo find / -name *banshee*
[00:01] <DinoMuffin> that, or I think there's a program, like "furious iso mount" or something in the ubuntu package manager
[00:01] <flowerpot> with System V init, you could start up in single user mode or bring a system from multi-user mode down to single-user mode (e.g. to perform maintenance).  How is this same task accomplished with Upstart?
[00:01] <DinoMuffin> if you watn a gui
[00:01] <javier_> DinoMuffin, what did you mean with "to the logs"? I think I've never done that
[00:02] <DinoMuffin> javier_: when a program crashes, it will usually forward its error output to the /var/log directory
[00:02] <DinoMuffin> normally syslog
[00:02] <DinoMuffin> or, you can run the program from a terminal window
[00:02] <mcphail> flowerpot: debian/ubuntu have never supported use of runlevels like that
[00:02] <DinoMuffin> and it will forward it to the terminal window
[00:03] <willdabeast> How do you boot a Windows XP cd if the current OS is Ubuntu, and on Startup I cannot access my keyboard to enter the BIOS. Is there a way to start the installation while logged in?
[00:03] <acerimmer> willdabeast: you can't get to your bios?  that's not good
[00:03] <Rin> so question, does linux have a huge database of drivers that it can access?
[00:03] <DinoMuffin> willdabeast: that's a task for your bios
[00:03] <acerimmer> willdabeast: xp???  for what?
[00:03] <DinoMuffin> willdabeast: make sure that the CD drive is first inthe boot priority
[00:04] <willdabeast> acerimmer, I can get to my bios, but it won't recognize my keyboard for some reason
[00:04] <DinoMuffin> willdabeast: or hold tab when you computer starts to choose a boot drive
[00:04] <willdabeast> dinomuffin, yea that's what I am trying to change
[00:04] <israel> willdabeast: weird cuestion, mmm change the keyboard usb by ps2 and try to get in the setup
[00:04] <mcphail> Rin: the linux kernel is full of "drivers"
[00:04] <Rin> so how does it choose which one it use, and does it do it automatically?
[00:05] <DinoMuffin> willdabeast: oh, what's your keyboard? USB?
[00:05] <israel> willdabeast: try pressing F9
[00:05] <mcphail> Rin: it chooses automatically and you rarely have to override it
[00:06] <zennez0009> hello
[00:06] <Rin> so basically, i create a live cd, and boot my new computer using that cd and it will autp configure most everything?
[00:06] <willdabeast> israel, it didn't do anything.
[00:06] <willdabeast> Dinomuffin, let me check
[00:06] <zennez0009> anyone here uses zim wiki desktop?
[00:06] <javier_> DinoMuffin, what I find tehre is "Jan 31 19:04:26 javier-Aspire-5742 kernel: [15809.971686] ptrace of non-child pid 26261 was attempted by: gdb (pid 26348)"
[00:06] <mcphail> Rin: unless you are very unlucky, yes
[00:06] <javier_> DinoMuffin, doesnt say a lot to me...
[00:06] <Rin> alright.  that makes me feel a ton better about linux then.  XD
[00:07] <israel> willdabeast: mmm then you need to enter setup and set boot secuence cd first
[00:07] <DinoMuffin> javier_: but it's working now, correct?
[00:07] <fbsd> hi
[00:07] <mcphail> Rin: it is magic when it works... (which is most of the time)
[00:07] <Rin> mind if a query you mcphail, and ask a few other questions i have on my mind?
[00:07] <javier_> DinoMuffin, yes, because I unistalled the extension
[00:07] <willdabeast> dinomuffin, the keyboard flashed on and turned off, it's not a keyboard problem though I use it on my computer all the time.
[00:08] <mcphail> Rin: happy to reply in channel but I'm going to bed soon
[00:08] <DinoMuffin> javier_: I've never used banshee, but has it updated recently? the extension may no longer be compatible
[00:08] <Rin> ok, well, i was just wondering about how linux "drivers" come to be, are they done by the oem, or by other people?
[00:08] <vandal-> willdabeast, i had similiar issue with pretty new usb keyboard. problem solved with usb to ps2 adapter ;)
[00:09] <DinoMuffin> willdabeast: it's possible that the BIOS doesn't like it though. If you have a PS2 adapter, try putting that on
[00:09] <israel> willdabeast: told you earlier
[00:09] <israel> willdabeast: weird cuestion, mmm change the keyboard usb by ps2 and try to get in the setup
[00:09] <mcphail> Rin: bit of both. Some of the drivers have had to be reverse engineered
[00:09] <DinoMuffin> willdabeast: also, if you're running it through a KVM switch, it might get angry
[00:09] <magicJ> willdabeast:  it is that the bios is too old to support usb
[00:10] <javier_> DinoMuffin, but, the thing is, after installing the extension, it worked. I went then to its properties (of the extension), and make changed about the resolution that it displays some images. And then it crashed and never worked again. When I nuistall it, the changed i made in preferences are still there (I assume) and I don't get the chance to set them as they were at the beggining, because the program doesnt open
[00:10] <Rin> and also, is there a tool inside of ubuntu itself that you can use to find new drivers for your hardware?
[00:10] <DinoMuffin> javier_: have you tried deleting the config files?
[00:10] <DinoMuffin> javier_: they're probably in your home folder somewhere
[00:10] <willdabeast> dinomuffin, any other solutions? I don't have a ps2 cord
[00:11] <javier_> DinoMuffin, I can't find it there, that's the problem. There is no .banshee folder
[00:11] <mcphail> Rin: new drivers will be loaded automatically for new hardware. Ubuntu will offer alternative drivers if necessary
[00:11] <DinoMuffin> willdabeast: well, have you been able to access bios with that keyboard before?
[00:11] <Rin> cool, so for the most part its all plug and play
[00:11] <mcphail> Rin: as i said, when it works it is magic...
[00:11] <Rin> also, what about games?  is there even a such thing as steam for linux?
[00:11] <javier_> DinoMuffin, Ah! I found it! It's fixed :) Thanks a lot!
[00:12] <willdabeast> dinomuffin, no I mean that keyboard works with my other computer, this computer it doesn't let me do anything after I enter the Boot Menu
[00:12] <DinoMuffin> javier_:no prob :)
[00:12] <mcphail> Rin: some steam games work. Steam itself runs through an application called "wine"
[00:12] <Rin> and theres an app market im assuming, correct?
[00:12] <mcphail> Rin: but don't expect much major-label support for ubuntu
[00:12] <Rin> didnt figure to
[00:13] <DinoMuffin> willdabeast: ok, i guess i didn't hear the entire problem. if it stops working after you enter bios, then it sounds like the bios version may be buggy
[00:13] <DinoMuffin> willdabeast: or too old
[00:13] <Rin> there needs to be though.. windows is too much of a monopoly
[00:13] <dsirijus> could anyone help me with trackpoint (trakstyk by hp actually)? it freezes if i move it too fast (i have to move it REAL slow not to freeze)
[00:13] <mcphail> Rin: there is a user-friendly "app-market" type interface
[00:13] <israel> willdabeast: some pc dont let you use usb keyboards until de OS is running thats why you need to change for a ps2 plug
[00:13] <DinoMuffin> willdabeast: what israel said too
[00:14] <dsirijus> it's recognized as ps2 mouse, and trackpad works just fine
[00:14] <Rin> is there a such thing as java for linux?
[00:14] <metasansana> Rin yup
[00:14] <mcphail> Rin: of course
[00:14] <metasansana> Java is multi platform
[00:14] <willdabeast> dinomuffin and israel, is there a way to fix it if the bios is too old?
[00:14] <Rin> and im assuming that means any java programs are able to be run in linux as well?
[00:14] <alfredo72> Hi. I'm having audio issues since my last upgrade, audio is choppy, at best, music sounds as if played in a phonograph! some web videos work, some don't
[00:14] <DinoMuffin> willdabeast: flash the bios, if there's a newer version
[00:14] <metasansana> Rin not any but most should
[00:14] <mcphail> Rin: just about, yes
[00:14] <DinoMuffin> willdabeast: but you ususally have to be able to navigate the bios to flash it
[00:15] <Rin> alrighty.  also, anything browser based should be just like on windows, right?
[00:15] <komp24> i]
[00:15] <komp24> oi
[00:15] <alfredo72> anyone? help...?
[00:15] <fbsd> accents in my keyboard doesn't work, somedy can help?
[00:15] <mcphail> Rin: there is no real support for silverlight
[00:15] <willdabeast> dinomuffin, ok is there a way to do it while logged in?
[00:15] <metasansana> Rin: you may have font rendering issues but for the most part yup
[00:15] <fbsd> somebody
[00:16] <metasansana> silverlight barely exists
[00:16] <Rin> is firefox not the same on ubuntu as windows?
[00:16] <acerimmer> fbsd: System>Preferences>Keyboard
[00:16] <mcphail> Rin: better on ubuntu
[00:16] <Rin> thought so
[00:16] <DinoMuffin> willdabeast: flashing bios though ubuntu?
[00:16] <DinoMuffin> willdabeast: not that I know of
[00:16] <Rin> so why would fonts mess up?
[00:16] <mcphail> Rin: you can install the Windows fonts easily
[00:17] <xcyclist> Back.  I looked through synaptic, deleted obvious related items, re-installed thunderbird twice, and made sure to get an -f dist-upgrade.  I see no difference.  I still cannot send an email, because the send window has no send button.
[00:17] <alfredo72> anyone with some insight about audio problems?
[00:17] <willdabeast> dinomuffin, alright thanks, appreciate all the help. Israel as well.
[00:17] <DinoMuffin> willdabeast: good luck
[00:17] <Rin> ok, cool.
[00:17] <xcyclist> $ uname -v
[00:17] <xcyclist> #26-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 20 17:07:31 UTC 2012
[00:17] <Rin> im definitely going to use ubuntu, maybe only as a dual boot, but still
[00:17] <fbsd> acerimmer: i have already do that
[00:17] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: what computer do you have?
[00:17] <alfredo72> HP
[00:18] <DinoMuffin> HP what
[00:18] <alfredo72> desktop
[00:18] <alfredo72> hold on
[00:18] <DinoMuffin> I mean the model number
[00:18] <mcphail> Rin: remeber you can try ubuntu by installing it from "within" windows
[00:18] <Rin> i know.   im just saying, im already hooked on it
[00:18] <Rin> just because of the community behind it
[00:18] <Rin> let alone the magic
[00:18] <mcphail> Rin: lol
[00:18] <alfredo72> dinomuffin: pavillion slimline s5000
[00:18] <willdabeast> dinomuffin and israel, is there a way to fix it if the bios is too old?
[00:18] <Rin> im going to wait until ig et my new computer built, then ill be dual booting it
[00:18] <willdabeast> dinomuffin and israel, is there a way to fix it if the bios is too old?
[00:19] <willdabeast> dinomuffin and israel, is there a way to fix it if the bios is too old?
[00:19] <FloodBot1> willdabeast: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:19] <metasansana> Rin: you can even run it in a vm
[00:19] <Rin> vm?
[00:19]  * Rin is a tech noob btw. XD
[00:19] <metasansana> Rin virtual machine like virtual box
[00:19] <Rin> i have no idea how to do one of those.
[00:19] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: 1 sec
[00:19] <alfredo72> thanks Dino
[00:20] <metasansana> Rin: its actually straight forward
[00:20] <Rin> explain?
[00:20] <metasansana> like installing a new program
[00:20] <Rin> please and thanks for all the help
[00:20] <metasansana> Rin Virtual box allows you to install other operating systems without messing up your main one
[00:20] <Rin> oh.  cool
[00:21] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: does it only happen when using flash? or with everything?
[00:21] <Rin> so is it running both OS's at the same time?
[00:21] <alfredo72> Dino: everything, Banshee sounds as if played through a tin can
[00:21] <metasansana> Rin think of it like you are running a guest operating system as a regular application
[00:21] <alfredo72> some videos sound ok, most don't
[00:22] <metasansana> Rin like you would Firefox or Internet explorer
[00:22] <Rin> so its an OS as a single program inside of windows?
[00:22] <Rin> and how do i set that up to be done?
[00:22] <alfredo72> I have upgraded and updated everything
[00:22] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: and you're using pulseaudio, correct?
[00:22] <metasansana> Rin: Virtual Box is the application that you manage the Os guests from
[00:22] <alfredo72> good question Dino, how do I find that out?
[00:23] <Rin> how do i get Virtual box?
[00:23] <metasansana> Rin: https://www.virtualbox.org/
[00:23] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: open a terminal and type in pulseaudio
[00:23] <DinoMuffin> it should say the dameon is running if you do
[00:23] <alfredo72> E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running.
[00:23] <alfredo72> E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.
[00:23] <DinoMuffin> alrighy
[00:23] <alfredo72> getting anywhere?
[00:24] <metasansana> Rin: they have documentation on the website two
[00:24] <flowerpot> Is it possible to have a file system on a device without a partition?
[00:24] <Rin> it seems as if oracle is a really big open source backer
[00:24] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: i'm checking for bug reports
[00:24] <alfredo72> cool, thanks Dino
[00:24] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: unfortunately pulseaudio is a bit of a trainwreck
[00:24] <metasansana> Rin: They acquired Sun Micro a while ago
[00:24] <alfredo72> oook... so the recommendation is...
[00:24] <metasansana> Rin: they have an agenda like any other corp
[00:24] <dsirijus> also, it seems like the more cpu is hit, the more i get these cursor freezes (they last like second or two)
[00:24] <html_5> how do i open port 5000 -5100 on ubuntu
[00:25] <acerimmer> Found!  http://imagebin.org/196658
[00:25] <Rin> well, any company out for money has an agenda
[00:25] <aykut> slm
[00:26] <KC-45> what irc clients do you guys recommend
[00:26] <KC-45> im absolutely new to ubuntu
[00:26] <Rin> but for now, ill just use it as a dual boot, so that i can play with it and see how it would work on its own.
[00:26] <alfredo72> DinoMuffin: I began the sound troubleshooting procedure found in the ubuntu forums, but it seems that is for NO audio at all, which is NOT the case
[00:26] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: can you check your syslog?
[00:27] <Rin> thank you guys, for all the help.
[00:27] <acerimmer> KC-45: ubuntu?  chatzilla works well in firefox.  xchat is also nice
[00:27] <alfredo72> hold on Dino
[00:27] <metasansana> Rin: no probs
[00:27] <Rin> ill probably be back.  XD
[00:28] <willdabeast> dinomuffin, I love you. ps2 keyboard worked ;)
[00:28] <willdabeast> israel, I think you said to do that too, thank you
[00:28] <alfredo72> DinoMuffin: check syslog as in typing "dmesg" in terminal?
[00:28] <DinoMuffin> willdabeast: cool :)
[00:28] <acerimmer> willdabeast: http://imagebin.org/196269
[00:29] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: type in "cat /var/log/syslog | grep "pulse"
[00:29] <DinoMuffin> "
[00:29] <alfredo72> ok, hold on (thanks)
[00:30] <alfredo72> bash: cat/var/log/syslog: No such file or directory
[00:30] <DinoMuffin> there should be a space after cat
[00:30] <alfredo72> my bad
[00:30] <DinoMuffin> no worries
[00:31] <alfredo72> ok, a bunch of data pops out
[00:31] <alfredo72> do I copy paste that for you?
[00:31] <DinoMuffin> mind putting it in a pastebin?
[00:32] <willdabeast> Is there a way to rank people who answer questions up and down in this chatroom as a peon?
[00:32] <alfredo72> no, not at all... HOW? (my handle is no joke)
[00:32] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: pastebin.com, copy paste it in there and upload
[00:33] <alfredo72> yes, I'm @ pastebin, upload to where?
[00:33] <jefferson> !pastebin
[00:33] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: there should be a large area in the middle of the page under "new paste"
[00:33] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: paste it in there, and at the bottom click "submit"
[00:34] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: then give me the link in your address bar
[00:34] <alfredo72> gotcha, 1 min
[00:34] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: sure
[00:34] <alfredo72> Dino: http://pastebin.com/v38470Ec
[00:35] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: thanks
[00:35] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: oh I thought it was more than that lol
[00:36] <alfredo72> no, bro, thanks to you
[00:36] <evoandroidevo> does sshd recored who loged in and what they did
[00:36] <cyberjorge> hi, i want to save the results of tailf
[00:36] <cyberjorge> this doesn't work.. tailf /opt/zimbra/log/mailbox.log | grep -i email@domain.com > filetered.log
[00:36] <cyberjorge> any suggestion?
[00:36] <alfredo72> so I'm I going to have to take my computer out to the backyard and... shoot it?
[00:36] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: but good news, looks like your not the only one with this issue
[00:37] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: well, hopefully not
[00:37] <alfredo72> hahahaha! how could that be good news?
[00:37] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: means you probably don't got to shoot your computer ;)
[00:37] <alfredo72> ok I won't
[00:38] <alfredo72> so what's the prognosis Doc, Dino Sir?
[00:39] <DinoMuffin> hmm
[00:39] <altervain> hola?
[00:40] <codepal> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libfreerdp1_1.0.0-0git1_i386.deb (--unpack):
[00:40] <codepal>  trying to overwrite '/usr/share/freerdp/keymaps/aliases', which is also in package libfreerdp0 0.8.2-2build1
[00:40] <alfredo72> "hmm"? what do you mean by "hmmm"?!?!
[00:40] <codepal> how to fix ? ^^
[00:40] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: have you ever had it where it cuts out completely?
[00:40] <vadi2> How can I cancel a dist upgrade? I did apt-get clean in the middle of it, and now it'll give me an error dialog for every single package ahead.
[00:40] <alfredo72> Dino: no, maybe with some web videos
[00:41] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: ok
[00:41] <alfredo72> DinoMuffin: but the audio is very low, choppy and sounds as if played through a can
[00:41] <iarp> anyone have experience using setfacl? i'm trying to make a certain folder only write as nobody:users nomatter who writes to it, it always must be nobody:users
[00:42] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: and i'm guessing you checked the physical connection and all that?
[00:42] <evoandroidevo> does sshd recored who loged in and what they did?
[00:42] <alfredo72> DinoMuffin: do I sound THAT stupid? ;)
[00:42] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: lol, just gotta check all the bases
[00:42] <alfredo72> I know, I know
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> evoandroidevo: its logged in /var/log/auth.log
[00:43] <xcyclist> thunderbird send problem:  I found I get this only on my main account on my laptop.  The secondary account puts up a good send window, but the primary does not.
[00:43] <stephenh> evoandroidevo: no, only their login time
[00:44] <stephenh> it does not do any sort of auditing
[00:44] <xcyclist> So, it appears to be something got corrupted in my account.
[00:44] <stephenh> well history of what they did
[00:44] <codepal> nm fixed it with dpkg --force-all
[00:44] <recon69_lap> g
[00:44] <evoandroidevo> ok thanks guys
[00:45] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: alrighty, try opening up "alsamixer" in a terminal
[00:45] <alfredo72> Dino: I've already done that, all bars are cranked all the way up and are not muted
[00:46] <xcyclist> Anyone know where to look for stuff that might mess up thunderbird configurations so I can just start over without losing my email history?
[00:46] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: i was gunna suggest reducing the PCA to < 70%
[00:46] <acerimmer> xcyclist: I'd guess there're in your /home and are hidden by default.
[00:46] <alfredo72> ok, hold on
[00:46] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: i believe that it has to digitally amplify the sound if it's above that
[00:47] <alfredo72> ummm. Dino? there is no PCA bar
[00:47] <DinoMuffin> :|
[00:47] <alfredo72> PCM?
[00:47] <DinoMuffin> oh PCM
[00:47] <DinoMuffin> yeah, sorry
[00:47] <alfredo72> lol
[00:47] <DinoMuffin> that about blew my brain
[00:48] <alfredo72> hahahaha
[00:48] <alfredo72> ok, so it's either 71 or 69, no way of putting 70
[00:48] <DinoMuffin> 69 then
[00:48] <DinoMuffin> try running some music afterwards
[00:48] <kah_> i've been running virtualbox for about a week now with ubuntu, shutting it down, starting it up and now I just shut it down and started it and out of the blue I get no launcher or top tab, any ideas? it looks like this http://www.screencast.com/t/CH47jtwa4
[00:49] <alfredo72> ok, one sec
[00:49] <DinoMuffin> kah_: did you restart it?
[00:49] <alfredo72> Dino: YOU EFFIN ROCK!!!!
[00:49] <kah_> several times
[00:49] <kah_> DinoMuffin: several times
[00:49] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: sweet :D
[00:50] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: aparently there is some issues with the alsa driver when it amplifies sound
[00:50] <alfredo72> can't believe that did it (I'm POSITIVE I hadn't touched anything there)
[00:50] <kah_> i can click on the top tab and will get the pull down menus
[00:50] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: i'll put it in a bug report
[00:50] <kah_> and they show up
[00:50] <alfredo72> thanks dude
[00:50] <alfredo72> so what can I do for you?
[00:50] <kah_> but launchy and the top menu bar are transparent
[00:50] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: if it just updated, it you might not of had to do anything
[00:50] <xcyclist> acerimmer:  okay, well I've looked in the .thunderbird directory, and it is pretty obscure, and has no serious difference from my other account.
[00:50] <alfredo72> I know: " aguy walks into a bar carring a briefcase..."
[00:50] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: lol, dont worry about it. i do this stuff for fun
[00:51] <alfredo72> so one last question: do I put all the bars in the "white zone"? all are cranked all the way up to red
[00:51] <acerimmer> xcyclist: I've been know to delete hidden config files.  logout/login and it forces a rebuild of the config.
[00:51] <kah_> DinoMuffin: any idea? :D
[00:52] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: the rest shouldn't matter, PCM is the one to look out for
[00:52] <DinoMuffin> kah_: 1 sec
[00:53] <alfredo72> DinoMuffin:
[00:53] <alfredo72> cool, thanks a lot bro, really appreciate that
[00:53] <alfredo72> and another (less important) question, this one I can live with: my monitor  is out of range but there is no option for the resolution ... any ideas on that one?
[00:53] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: no prob man
[00:54] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: is it on DVI or VGA?
[00:54] <alfredo72> ok, I hjaven't got a clue
[00:54] <DinoMuffin> kah_: try reinstalling gnome_panel in the synaptic package manager
[00:54] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: ok, is it LCD or CRT?
[00:55] <alfredo72> LCD I guess... flat screen, not a year old
[00:55] <artichoku> howdie howdie! how's it hangin'?
[00:55] <DinoMuffin> it's probably DVI then
[00:56] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: open a terminal and type "xrandr"
[00:56] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: any resolutions showing up?
[00:57] <alfredo72> Dino: yeah, a whole bunch of them
[00:57] <DinoMuffin> but they don't show up in the display options?
[00:57] <alfredo72> oh they do, it's just that the one spcific for my stupid monitor doesn't
[00:58] <DinoMuffin> oh, its on a non-native resolution?
[00:58] <DinoMuffin> hm
[00:58] <alfredo72> well it's a resolution HP thought is really cool?
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> alfredo72: what video chip do you use?
[00:59] <Oer> alfredo72, what resolution exactly ?
[00:59] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: I have to wonder now if it's actually connected through VGA, rather than DVI
[00:59] <alfredo72> that's what I'm trying to find out without shutting down the computer
[01:00] <alfredo72> how wpould I know that?
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> alfredo72: lspci | grep -i vga    what is output?
[01:00] <DinoMuffin> well VGA will likely be a thick black cable with a blue end
[01:00] <DinoMuffin> DVI will have a white end
[01:00] <alfredo72> VGA it is
[01:00] <DinoMuffin> yeah
[01:00] <haylo> vga has a bunch of pins
[01:00] <DinoMuffin> it might not be detecting the monitor correctly
[01:01] <haylo> linux sux with some resolutions alfredo72 2nd monitor im guessing?
[01:01] <DinoMuffin> you can force a specific resolution with xrandr
[01:01] <DinoMuffin> if memory serves me
[01:01] <semitones> ActionParsnip: hey, you told me a long time ago to unload psmouse and reload it when my computer resumed from sleep
[01:01] <haylo> cool DinoMuffin il try that
[01:02] <alfredo72> haylo: nope this is the monitor that came with the computer
[01:02] <alfredo72> DinoMuffin: cool, how?
[01:02] <semitones> ActionParsnip: is there a way to make that happen every time I come back from sleep, automatically?
[01:02] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: gotta remember how lol, 1 sec
[01:02] <Ben64> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions
[01:02] <semitones> ActionParsnip: also is that still the best way of dealing with the problem of the touchpad not working properly?
[01:02] <alfredo72> sure, no prob
[01:03] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: ah yeah, that link ben posted would do it
[01:03] <alfredo72> thanks Ben64
[01:04] <DinoMuffin> hmm
[01:05] <alfredo72> Dino: it should be 1366x768
[01:05] <DinoMuffin> wow you have to know the specific h and v sync timings?
[01:05] <Ben64> 1366x768 isn't that strange
[01:05] <DinoMuffin> yeah but he's not using dvi
[01:05] <Ben64> doesn't matter
[01:05] <alfredo72> Dino: those would be H = 48kHz V = 60 Hz
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> semitones: sure, make a script to unload and reload the module, then run:  gksudo gedit  /etc/pm/sleep.d/90_psmouse     and you will need text like #2 here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1334429
[01:06] <DinoMuffin> hm
[01:06] <evoandroidevo> 1024x600 :D small screen eh
[01:07] <alfredo72> Ben64 so basically I follow instructions on the thread you kindly provided?
[01:08] <Ben64> alfredo72: yeah, should do it
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> semitones: same deal here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+question/176273
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> semitones: also: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_configure_the_TrackPoint
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> semitones: says how its done too
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> semitones: the last one is probably the way forward
[01:09] <DinoMuffin> oh ok
[01:09] <semitones> ActionParsnip: thanks, I'll look at that one then
[01:09] <DinoMuffin> til about cvt
[01:09] <DinoMuffin> neat
[01:09] <evoandroidevo> is there anything that records the screen in Ubuntu kinda like fraps for windows
[01:10] <semitones> ActionParsnip: it had been a while... I was hoping an update would have fixed it by now. I was avoiding upgrading away from 10.10 because I didn't want to deal with trackpad issues
[01:10] <SonWighFac9> yeah the new gnome 3 have a built in screen recorder
[01:10] <DinoMuffin> evoandroidevo: have you tried "desktop recorder" in ubuntu package manager?
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> evoandroidevo: recordmydesktop or byzanz
[01:10] <evoandroidevo> yea i have tried it but i couldnt get it to save the video
[01:11] <alfredo72> uh, Ben64, quick question: I assume the mode I want doesn't exist so I have to input the second line of code?
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> semitones: some touchpads hate being hibernated
[01:11] <evoandroidevo> i tried recordmydesktop
[01:11] <whiteLime> anyone have any cool ideas i can do on ubuntu school server
[01:11] <whiteLime> ?
[01:11] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: yeah, after you enter cvt, copy what's after the Modeline bit
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> evoandroidevo: or xvidcap
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> whiteLime: in what way?
[01:12] <evoandroidevo> is xvidcap the package name
[01:12] <alfredo72> ok, hope that doesnty make me go blind
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> !info xvidcap
[01:13] <evoandroidevo> man the bot in here is so useful
[01:13] <whiteLime> ActionParsnip anyway as long as its legal.
[01:13] <Guest1635> vrms
[01:14] <alfredo72> Dino, I'm at a loss here
[01:14] <alfredo72> sorry
[01:15] <alfredo72> mind walking me through this one?
[01:15] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: ok, well try entering this in first "xrandr --addmode VGA 1366x768"
[01:17] <alfredo72> ok, cause I entered "xrandr --newmode <Mode``Line>" and got mode bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[01:17] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: oh, well the stuff in angle brackets is where you add in the values from cvt
[01:18] <semitones> ActionParsnip: xinput list shows ps/2 mouse and alpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint as both existing on my computer. Am I safe just configiuring the alps?
[01:18] <alfredo72> Dino: hahaha, I AM stupid
[01:18] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: lol, we've all done it
[01:18] <alfredo72> and after that I got "xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[01:18] <alfredo72> xrandr: cannot find output "VGA""
[01:18] <evoandroidevo>  whats the min requirements for 64bit?
[01:19] <evoandroidevo> as in ram
[01:19] <DinoMuffin> oh
[01:19] <DinoMuffin> make VGA VGA1
[01:19] <alfredo72> ok
[01:19] <DinoMuffin> evoandroidevo: how much ram do you have?
[01:19] <evoandroidevo> 1G
[01:20] <DinoMuffin> it'll run
[01:20] <kah_> DinoMuffin: ok, I'm not quite sure how to reinstall gnome_panel in the synaptic package manager
[01:20] <alfredo72> Dino: same message: xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[01:20] <alfredo72> xrandr: cannot find output "VGA1"
[01:21] <semitones> ActionParsnip: take a look at the last thing on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad -- is that gconftool command relevant?
[01:21] <ickefes> hi guys! i have a VIA 1708S internal sound card which both Windows and Ubuntu detects as "Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)". How do I install it with VIA drivers? Regards.
[01:21] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: :/
[01:21] <alfredo72> Dino: LOL
[01:21] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: ok, type in xrandr and tell me what output is connected
[01:21] <klh> if a printer dont work w/ cups would it work with cloudprint via ubuntu?
[01:22] <alfredo72> Dino: xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[01:22] <alfredo72> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 240, current 1368 x 768, maximum 1368 x 768
[01:22] <alfredo72> default connected 1368x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm
[01:22] <alfredo72>    1368x768       50.0*
[01:22] <alfredo72>    1360x768       51.0     52.0
[01:22] <alfredo72>    1280x720       53.0
[01:22] <alfredo72>    1024x768       54.0     55.0     56.0
[01:22] <FloodBot1> alfredo72: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:22] <DinoMuffin> kah_: in the search bar, put in gnome-panel (not gnome_panel, sorry), and click mark for reinstallation
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> semitones: not sure dude, Gnome3 uses dconf
[01:23] <kah_> i can't see anything..
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> semitones: i'd use the wake up script thing personally
[01:23] <kah_> DinoMuffin: i can call up the terminal.. can i do it from there?
[01:23] <DinoMuffin> oh
[01:23] <DinoMuffin> that's so weird
[01:23] <DinoMuffin> it sees 1368 but not 1366
[01:23] <kah_>  it looks like this http://www.screencast.com/t/CH47jtwa4
[01:23] <Guest36229> yo waz up homies
[01:23] <semitones> ActionParsnip: that's what I was going to do too, until I read the page with the xinput commands you put up. I'll go back to writing the wakeup scrpt
[01:24] <Guest36229> ...... yo?
[01:24] <semitones> ActionParsnip: this also has some confusing stuff that might be relevant: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingTouchpadDetection
[01:24] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: I think you got muted
[01:24] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: :(
[01:24] <alfredo72> no, here it is: http://pastebin.com/nJe8tDiA
[01:24] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: oh, nevermind
[01:24] <evoandroidevo> is 12.04 torrent only download?
[01:24] <alfredo72> a small faux pass on my IRC etiquette
[01:25] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: lol
[01:25] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: ok, try entering in that command from earlier, but make VGA1 default this time
[01:26] <alfredo72> Dino, if this goes wrong what's the worst that could happen?
[01:27] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: well, it shouldn't do anything if you're just adding a mode
[01:27] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: hopefully it will show up in the display settings
[01:27] <maum> how can Iisten radio on ubuntu?
[01:29] <semitones> ActionParsnip: is this what I want to save as "etc/pm/sleep.d/90_psmouse" ?
[01:29] <semitones> http://paste.ubuntu.com/824650/
[01:29] <alfredo72>  Dino: so the command would be... I'm lost here
[01:30] <alfredo72> xrandr --newmode <1366x768>
[01:30] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: try "xrandr --addmode default 1366x768"
[01:30] <alfredo72> ok will do
[01:30] <evoandroidevo> where is the power settings to change how long it takes for the computer to lock
[01:30] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: it might not do anything though
[01:31] <alfredo72> you were right Dino: xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[01:31] <alfredo72> xrandr: cannot find mode "1366x768"
[01:31] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: ok
[01:32] <evoandroidevo> nevermind found it
[01:33] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: lemme check one thing
[01:34] <alfredo72> by all means
[01:34] <semitones> ActionParsnip: i don't understand the original script so I hope i'm doing it right
[01:34] <html_5> how do i open port 5000 -5100 on ubuntu
[01:34] <infekted> how do you call on a browser in ubuntu and i mean not a specific one just default
[01:35] <kah_> DinoMuffin: hmmm if i take off hte 3d acceleration on the virtualbox, all is better
[01:35] <pfifo> infekted, `/etc/alternatives/x-www-browser`
[01:36] <kah_> DinoMuffin: since im only programming ruby i guess i don't need the 3d +D
[01:36] <infekted> thanx
[01:36] <pfifo> html_5, you dont have todo anything, the firewall is open by default, if you closed ports then just reopen them the same way
[01:38] <infekted> it didnt do the default but it instead opened epiphany
[01:38] <pfifo> silly xchant, why you no remember my hide join/part messages settings
[01:39] <html_5> trying to setup a local ftp/like such  server locally... but i dont know how, (filezilla) pfifo
[01:39] <infekted> i have chromium as default
[01:39] <infekted> but i dont want to straight call on chromium
[01:40] <infekted> hold on im going to try something
[01:40] <pfifo> infekted, you can run `update-alternatives` to select the default x-www-browser
[01:41] <infekted> got it
[01:41] <infekted> thanx man
[01:41] <pfifo> html_5, https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[01:42] <semitones> if I want to make a script that runs a command on resume from sleep, is this how to do it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/824650/ --> /etc/pm/sleep.d/90_psmouse ?
[01:42] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: aparently vesa likes to round things
[01:42] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: >:/
[01:42] <evoandroidevo> i have a stupid question but why do alot of people still use 10.04 or 10.10
[01:42] <alfredo72> huh? vesa?
[01:42] <infekted> would you know how to call on default instant messenger?
[01:42] <semitones> evoandroidevo: because 11.04 introduces bugs :( >:(
[01:42] <semitones> i'm so sorry I ever updated
[01:42] <pfifo> !lts | evoandroidevo
[01:42] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: basically cvt won't give me the paramaters for 1366x768 because vesa rounds to the nearist 8
[01:43] <DinoMuffin> so imma try something else
[01:43] <Glowball> Hi. I have been using the Chromium beta ppa on Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick (https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/beta) for a while now, but recently, Chromium has stopped updating. It is still in 15.0.874.106, while the ppa lists a newer version available for Maverick. In Ubuntu Software Center, only the libvpx package is listed, not chromium-browser.
[01:43] <evoandroidevo> isnt 12.04 going to be a LTS
[01:43] <alfredo72> ok, I think I get what you said, not that I understood the way you said it
[01:43] <pfifo> infekted, look in /etc/alternatives... IM programs might not have defaults since there all different
[01:44] <pooltable> help installed firefox 10???
[01:44] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: actually, can you tell me what monitor you have?
[01:45] <pfifo> Glowball, 10.10 is out of date
[01:45] <pfifo> evoandroidevo, yes 12.04 will be LTS
[01:45] <Glowball> pfifo: It is still supported till April. And the ppa still lists a newer version of Chromium for Marverick.
[01:45] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: is it "great wall"
[01:45] <DinoMuffin> ?
[01:45] <alfredo72> as in "made in china"?
[01:45] <alfredo72> lol
[01:46] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: well, I saw a report sayign that some of those monitors say they can support higher resolutions when they really cant
[01:46] <pfifo> Glowball, since its a ppa theres no real EOL, the maintainer mostlikely just doesnt update it.
[01:46] <DinoMuffin> and they just scale it back
[01:46] <alfredo72> weird... can't find model or make
[01:46] <semitones> if I want to make a script that runs a command on resume from sleep, is this how to do it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/824650/ --> /etc/pm/sleep.d/90_psmouse ? (ping: ActionParsnip)
[01:46] <DinoMuffin> :S
[01:46] <Glowball> pfifo: If you click on the link, it says there is a newer version available in the PPA. Ubuntu just doesn't pic it up.
[01:47] <Glowball> pick*
[01:47] <dsirijus> so, i guess my trackpoint (recognized as "ps/2 generic mouse") is something like guest mouse to touch pad
[01:47] <dsirijus> all ran as evdev drivers
[01:47] <alfredo72> oh here: HPS1931a
[01:47] <dsirijus> and trackpoint doesn't work (locks every few seconds of usage)
[01:47] <panosdk> hi can someone tell me how can i automount my win partition.Its sda1 but i cant find in on pysdm
[01:48] <dsirijus> can i run it as separate mouse or something?
[01:48] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: well, one thing you can try is setting the monitor to 1280x768
[01:48] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: it might look a bit better
[01:48] <dsirijus> (it even shows in settings as plain mouse)
[01:48] <jason> hello??
[01:48] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: but until I find out the timings for 1366x768, I cant generate the xrandr command
[01:49] <pfifo> Glowball, its saying that the build failed
[01:49] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: brb
[01:49] <alfredo72> ok, no worries Dino,
[01:49] <Glowball> pfifo: Oh, you're right O.o The packages are only about the source version number?
[01:49] <alfredo72> oh, you mean you'd write them now?
[01:50] <BlueProtoman> Anyone here mind helping me out with my hardware acceleration?  I still can't get it working.  Ubuntu 11.04, Intel HD 3000 and nVidia GeForce 520M, both controlled via Optimus.  I've tried this https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/wiki/Troubleshooting and https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/wiki/Upgrading-on-Ubuntu , and after resetting numerous times I still have no luck.
[01:50] <dsirijus> no one has any idea? this is killing me, completely unusable
[01:51] <pfifo> Glowball, what do you mean?
[01:51] <JermBob> hey how can i remove the mail icon in the top menu bar on my ubuntu 11.10 install please ?
[01:51] <pooltable> help installed firefox 10???
[01:51] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: back
[01:52] <Glowball> pfifo: The package list at the end of the page lists v17 as the latest version. Synaptic/Software Centre can't find it and won't update higher than 15.
[01:52] <DinoMuffin> well, to add a new resolution to xrandr, you have to have the sync timings
[01:52] <DinoMuffin> but cvt won't give it to me for that resolution
[01:52] <bazhang> JermBob, right click remove from panel after unlock from panel ?
[01:52] <pfifo> Glowball, ohh, well if the build failed, then launchpad wont make a package for it
[01:53] <somsip> pooltable: where are you trying to install it from?
[01:53] <JermBob> bazhang its not the panel its the main bar at the top which has shutdown and stuff on it ?
[01:53] <alfredo72> Dino: how would the sync timings look like? as an example?
[01:53] <Glowball> pfifo: So there still is something wrong which prevents my Ubuntu from updating to the latest version, right?
[01:53] <bazhang> JermBob, yes, try that
[01:53] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: well the command, in the end, should look somethign like "xrandr --addmode "1368x768_60.00"   85.25  1368 1440 1576 1784  768 771 781 798 -hsync +vsync"
[01:54] <pfifo> Glowball, no, you just have to wait for the build to be fixed, then the latest version will be available in the repo
[01:54] <JermBob> bazhang if i right click it or anything it gives me a list of Avaliable, Away, Busy, Invisible, Offline | Clear
[01:54] <pooltable> somsip here it is on desktop
[01:54] <alfredo72> Dino; ah, but nothing the monitor itself could give me
[01:54] <JermBob> its that dumb chat thing that it comes with
[01:54] <pooltable> http://www.tomsguide.com/us/download/Mozilla-Firefox,0301-7374-37899.html
[01:54] <wchan_> im using xubuntu. i want to create a launcher to eclipse .. how can i do it?  i created one and it says it cant find my JRE ... how can i ensure the launcher does something like source ~/.bashrc before launching the ecilpse
[01:55] <somsip> pooltable: what have you downloaded?
[01:55] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: nope
[01:55] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: have you tried setting it to 1280x768?
[01:55] <alfredo72> Dino: so I guess that will remain unsolved
[01:55] <alfredo72> yes but not much improvement
[01:56] <pooltable> somsip firefox-10.0.tar.bz2
[01:56] <pfifo> wchan_, you could try running it like this `PATH=$PATH:/usr/java/bin /full/path/to/eclipse`
[01:56] <somsip> pooltable: nah - I can't help you with installing form source
[01:56] <wchan_> pfifo: no semicolon needed?
[01:57] <pfifo> wchan_, no thats all 1 command
[01:57] <BlueProtoman> Anyone here mind helping me out with my hardware acceleration?  I still can't get it working.  Ubuntu 11.04, Intel HD 3000 and nVidia GeForce 520M, both controlled via Optimus.  I've tried this https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/wiki/Troubleshooting and https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/wiki/Upgrading-on-Ubuntu , and after resetting numerous times I still have no luck.
[01:57] <pooltable> somsip ok i just have a take a few day to the they update it o well
[01:57] <alfredo72> Dino: changed settings but everything looks awful! all fuzzy
[01:57] <somsip> pooltable: that would be the easiest and recommended course of action
[01:57] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: change em back
[01:58] <alfredo72> Dino: so I'll just keep on searching, thanks anyway
[01:58] <alfredo72> oh I did, instantly! lol
[01:58] <pooltable> somsip at least my $$ windows will have it now
[01:58] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: yeah, sorry bout that. maybe someone on the ubuntu forums could help more
[01:59] <DinoMuffin> alfredo72: or if I could find the timings for that resolution
[01:59] <alfredo72> no worries Dino, the audio thing was important, it was driving me crazy
[01:59] <html_5> trying to setup a local ftp/like such  server locally... but i dont know how, (filezilla)
[01:59] <alfredo72> this one helps
[01:59] <dsirijus> could someone tell me how to load some different driver for a pointing device?
[02:00] <ablyss> BlueProtoman, have you tried http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-270.41.06-driver.html
[02:00] <dsirijus> it is evdev now, i think i need synaptics
[02:00] <JohnnyonFlame> ccmake is not present in cmake's package
[02:00] <clea_> yes
[02:00] <grysa> wtf
[02:00] <JohnnyonFlame> anyone knows how to fix?
[02:02] <grysa> hellooooo nb speak spanish
[02:02] <scientes> !es | grysa
[02:02] <Miggs> Hi guys. I got myself into a spot of PPA trouble with Pidgin. I'm trying to clean it up but apt is giving me an error that I don't know how to deal with. Can someone please look at this http://pastie.org/3292911 and give me a hint?
[02:03] <scientes> Miggs, what files are in ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[02:03] <ablyss> Miggs, whats a PPA
[02:03] <scientes> !ppa
[02:03] <ablyss> thx
[02:04] <Miggs> scientes: morgan@lappy:~$ ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | grep -i pidgin  finds nothing.
[02:05] <Miggs> There is also no mention of pidgin in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:05] <pfifo> ubottu, thanks but wheres the $20 you owe me?
[02:05] <ablyss> Miggs, so basically your PPA wants to install something but your system does not support it
[02:05] <scientes> OK, then it is some PPA-foo, i'm not sure about how all that stuff works
[02:05] <metasansana> wow ubottu responds!
[02:05] <Miggs> The ppa has been purged already and I can't find anywhere where that could be being referenced.
[02:06] <ablyss> Miggs, you use sudo apt-get update you should see the PPA in the list
[02:06] <scientes> Miggs, apt-get update
[02:06] <metasansana> :(
[02:06] <Miggs> I've already done that a bunch but I'll do it again now
[02:07] <scientes> Miggs, then do apt-get remove pidgin && apt-get install pidgin
[02:07] <scientes> or apt-get -t your-version-codename install pidgin
[02:07] <haylo> miggs put in synaptic and then deselcet pigin and go ahead and install- it will just install the dependencis
[02:07] <Miggs> No mention of pidgin in the apt-get update output.
[02:07] <jtannenbaum> I'm on 10.04 and my monitor resolution is screwed up. I knew this because the bottom left corner of my screen can do this: http://i.imgur.com/fRtex.png
[02:07] <jtannenbaum> it's clearly cut off
[02:08] <jtannenbaum> changing the resolution just makes it obviously messed up
[02:08] <Miggs> morgan@lappy:~$ sudo apt-get remove pidgin leads to Package pidgin is not installed, so not removed
[02:08] <pfifo> Miggs, according to the pastebin, pidgin is trying to install a pidgin-data that is too new for it to use, so I am thinking your trying to install a non-ppa version of pidgin that is pulling in a ppa verson of pidgin-data, double check your PPA and ensure your desired package isnt named something different from just plain 'pidgin'
[02:08] <haylo> miggs it sounds like you tried to remove pigin then reinstall it?
[02:08] <ablyss> jtannenbaum, do you have reset or recalibrate button on your monitor?
[02:08] <jtannenbaum> don't think so, it might be in the menu
[02:09] <haylo> yeah i dont think you should draw pigin from a ppa- its in almost every repo i think
[02:09] <Miggs> haylo: that's right - I used the ppa on the pidgin site then cleared that out so I could use the one in the Ubuntu repo instead.
[02:09] <ablyss> jtannenbaum, maybe restarting gdm
[02:09] <scientes> Miggs, apt-get remove pidgin && apt-get install pidgin
[02:09] <haylo> Miggs, put the name in synaptic
[02:09] <haylo> that will tell you the depends Miggs
[02:09] <Miggs> scientes: apt says pidgin is not installed so it can't remove it, then the install has the error in nthe pastie.
[02:10] <Miggs> haylo: Cheers, I'll give that a try.
[02:10] <haylo> then deselct it and install those depends will still be selected
[02:10] <haylo> its a pain but at least it gives you some options
[02:11] <jtannenbaum> ablyss: I've restarted the computer, which I assume restarts gdm
[02:11] <jtannenbaum> and no luck
[02:13] <jtannenbaum> anything I can install? the resolution in general looks kind of garbage, like everything is very slightly fuzzy
[02:13] <abstrakt> can I install a 32bit firefox?
[02:14] <abstrakt> I need to run the flash debugger plugin, but it's only available for 32bit (apparently)
[02:14] <pfifo> abstrakt, you might have to build form source
[02:14] <abstrakt> ouch
[02:15] <pfifo> abstrakt, along with all its 32bit deps, but in the end, you can install a 32bit FF
[02:15] <dmitry_> good evening, I have  aproblem using the ls command in ubuntu, every time I type in the command it seems to look for a directory
[02:15] <dmitry_> giving me the error bash: ls: No such file or directory
[02:16] <jeremiah_> how do i figure out the size of a file in linux?
[02:16] <Ben64> jeremiah_: ls -ho <file>
[02:17] <pfifo> jeremiah_, ls -lh <filename>
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[02:17] <dmitry_> hmm it doesn't work I'm trying to us "ls -la" command
[02:17] <Timmaah> hey guys.. got a bizarre bug. Currently coding on a big piece of work and I'm in the process of editing it.. and the file becomes read-only. I then change file permissions.. nope.. rw-rw--r.. I then try to sudo su.. to see if I can fix it that way but get the following error message: "Sudo: Can't open /var/lib/sudo/%user/0: Read-only file system
[02:17] <JermBob> whats the command to list all running processes ? ps - ??
 what??
[02:17] <pfifo> dmitry_, try `/bin/ls`
[02:17] <Ben64> jeremiah_: you asked how to figure out the size of a file....
[02:17] <meberhart> ps -aux
[02:17] <dmitry_> all I get is bash: ls: No such file or directory
[02:17] <Timmaah> Other files in the directory have the same issue.. outside that directory i can edit the files. Directory permissions are create/delete files :/
[02:17] <Timmaah> any ideas?
[02:18] <dagerik> How can I find out what version of sudo I have?
[02:18] <subb1> os> ubuntu lucid. Not able to find grub.conf or menu.lst file. how do i edit grub options?
[02:18] <meberhart> JermBob - ps -aux
[02:18] <JermBob> thannks meberhart
 but what am i soppose to do with that?!
[02:18] <Ben64> type it
[02:18] <dmitry_> ok awesome, tI think I delteted this from my PATH variable
[02:18] <pfifo> jeremiah_, it a command intended to be run on the command line
 tried, and did not work
[02:19] <JermBob> anyone know the process name for the chat program that comes installed on ubuntu ? i want to remove the mail icon at the top of the screen as its no use to me
[02:19] <ablyss> jtannenbaum, i try signing in as guest user
[02:19] <pfifo> jeremiah_, what didnt work?
[02:19] <jooic> ooi
[02:19] <dr_willis> JermBob:  i think the webupd8 blog site had that mentioned in their ubuntu tweaking guide
[02:19] <semitones> Does ubuntu still use HAL as of 11.10?
[02:19] <ablyss> jtannenbaum, its possible your settings are fubar
[02:20] <JermBob> dr_willis thanks ill check it out
[02:20] <dr_willis> semitones:  its slowly being phased out. I dont think hal is included by default
 typing that in it brought up an error
[02:20] <dr_willis> !hal | semitones
[02:20] <pfifo> jeremiah_, what was the error?
[02:20] <semitones> dr_willis: I wonder if this page should be updated to include that at the top: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHal
[02:20] <semitones> dr_willis: I got there from a page saying that trackpad problems could be HAL related
[02:21] <Miggs> haylo: Thank you very much for the help - synaptic pointed me in the right direction and I got it sorted out.
[02:21] <jeremiah_> l<pfifo> s: cannot access tree63: No such file or directory
[02:21] <Ben64> jeremiah_: you have to use it on a file that exists
[02:22] <dmitry_> Can anyone also help me figure out why this doesn't work:
[02:22] <dmitry_> dmitry@dmitry-desktop:~$ PATH=$PATH:$HOME/dmitry/arm-2007q3/bin/
[02:22] <dmitry_> PATH=$PATH:$HOME/dmitry/arm-2007q3/bin/
[02:22] <dmitry_> dmitry@dmitry-desktop:~$ arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc
[02:22] <dmitry_> arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc
[02:22] <FloodBot1> dmitry_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:22] <dmitry_> arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc: command not found
[02:22] <njmikell0226> running 11.04, how do i install a theme found on gnome-look.org? noob to linux
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[02:22] <dr_willis> njmikell0226:  depends on what the theme is for.
[02:22] <semitones> could someone take a look at this forum thread and point me in the right direction? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11655215#post11655215
[02:22] <haylo> awesome Miggs :)
[02:22] <Ben64> jeremiah_: you have to be in that directory, or specify the full path of the file you want
[02:22] <pfifo> jeremiah_, make sure to include the path ex. `ls -lh /path/to/file.ext` or use the cd command to navigate to the directory in question... or just run `ls` by itself to determine what files are in your working direstory
[02:23] <semitones> script-writing, resume, and suspend question: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11655215#post11655215
[02:23] <evoandroidevo> how do i update kernel to latest stable?
[02:23] <Ben64> evoandroidevo: check in the update manager
[02:23] <njmikell0226> meaning?. gtk? is what is shows, but no idea. its android ICS theme
[02:24] <pfifo> dmitry_, pastebin that info and I might be able to read it
[02:24] <dmitry_> sorry I'm just trying to PATH=$PATH:$HOME/dmitry/arm-2007q3/bin/
[02:24] <evoandroidevo> lol i has ICS on my phone
[02:24] <dmitry_> but i get  PATH=$PATH:$HOME/dmitry/arm-2007q3/bin/
 way to compex but whatever
[02:24] <dmitry_> I mean    arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc: command not found
[02:25] <pfifo> dmitry_, setting your path shouldnt try to call a cross gcc
[02:25] <dmitry_> sorry can you explain?
[02:26] <dr_willis> njmikell0226:  could be a gnome shell theme, or a gtk2, or gtk3 theme.. the webupd8 blog site has a PPA setup with a lot of differnt themes.  plus guides on using them
[02:26] <dr_willis> njmikell0226:  i thinkyou are refering to the ICS gnome-shell theme. which is in the webupd8 ppa.
[02:26] <pfifo> dmitry_, it looks like your trying to set your path, right? that doesnt involve running any commands
[02:27] <evoandroidevo> dr_willis arent you the one that fully install ubuntu on a 16gb flash drive so that u could use the dd command on it
[02:27] <dr_willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/holo-android-ice-cream-sandwich-like.html       ICS gnome shell/gtk3 theme
[02:27] <dr_willis> evoandroidevo:  its a 32gb flash  :)  running on it right now
[02:28] <pfifo> I want a 32gb flash :(
[02:28] <dr_willis> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[02:28] <dr_willis> /dev/sdf1              29G   11G   17G  40% /
[02:28] <Ben64> dr_willis: what speed is the flash?
[02:29] <dr_willis> using 11 out of 17gb on it at the moment - i wonder where i partioned the other 16gb at...
 what should I do instead? I'm trying to follow this tutorial, http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/452ba83aa2bd69aa
[02:29] <dr_willis> Ben64:  normal usb2
[02:29] <evoandroidevo> wish i had a 32gb too but anyways say it was a 16gb how would i dd the flash drive over with out makeing the partion 16gb how would u make it bigger
[02:29] <Ben64> dr_willis: i mean the actual speed...
[02:29] <dr_willis> Ben64:  no idea.
[02:29] <pfifo> dmitry_, is your cross compiler working?
[02:30] <Ben64> dr_willis: any of my flash drives would be horribly slow for a running system
[02:30] <semitones> hey -- could i get  a sanity check on a script I'm making?
[02:30] <dr_willis> Ben64:  just a sandisk i found on same.
[02:30] <Ben64> dr_willis: sudo hdparm -t /dev/sdf
[02:30] <evoandroidevo> Ben64 so are mine
[02:30] <dr_willis> work time for me. bbl.
[02:31] <dr_willis> may be nback in about 20 min
[02:31] <pfifo> Ben64, Ive been stuck with a 1GB flash for the last year, if you use casper+toram it runs really fast :)
[02:31] <Ben64> aw
[02:31] <Ben64> he left
[02:31] <evoandroidevo> i have a 4gb for my live usb
[02:31] <Karmaon> fucking hell, why does filezilla crash every time?
[02:31] <bazhang> Karmaon, no cursing here
[02:32] <Karmaon> bazhang: sorry
[02:32] <semitones> bazhang: could you take a look at a script that i don't understand real quick
[02:32] <Ben64> my flash drive =  Timing buffered disk reads:   48 MB in  3.11 seconds =  15.43 MB/sec
[02:32] <bazhang> semitones, to accomplish what
[02:33] <Ben64> my boot drive =  Timing buffered disk reads:  424 MB in  3.01 seconds = 141.02 MB/sec
[02:33] <jin> hi
[02:33] <pfifo> semitones, try rmmod instead
[02:33] <semitones> bazhang: to accompish a fixing of my trackpad by automatically running a line in bash that I currently type every time I resume from sleep
[02:34] <semitones> pfifo: just replace modprobe with rmmode?
[02:34] <evoandroidevo> im getting a 16gb class 10 micro sd for my phine ^.^
[02:34] <Ben64> semitones: what do you type each time
[02:35] <pfifo> semeion, disregard that, if you type it and it works on the command line then rmmod isnt needed
[02:35] <pfifo> semitones, what is the script just not executing on resume?
[02:35] <semitones> Ben64: "sudo modprobe -r psmouse; sleep 2; sudo modprobe psmouse" -- if I could get it to run every resume, that would be great.
[02:36] <Ben64> sudo is probably the problem
[02:36] <semitones> pfifo: I don't know bash scripting, or how to make a script run on resume
[02:36] <Ben64> how would a script enter your password
[02:36] <pfifo> Ben64, the script should be running as root though
[02:36] <Nach0z> semitones: pfifo: you can have crontab execute something on startup using the @reboot instead of the * * * * * at the front of the command
[02:36] <semitones> pfifo: this is the one I copied from someone else: ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11655215#post11655215 (look at the last post)
[02:36] <DinoMuffin> why would you have a script enter your password
[02:36] <DinoMuffin> defeats the purpose
[02:37] <Girffe> Hey, I'm trying to change the appearance of Ubuntu, but when I use gnome color chooser to change the color of the top panel, it only changes part of it
[02:37] <Ben64> pfifo: not sure if it does
[02:37] <dmitry_> yes, it seems to be working if I run it fromthat directory
[02:37] <evoandroidevo> if u run a script dont u have to enter the password after sudo excutes before it contunes
[02:37] <pfifo> semeion, im already looking at it, when you run `sudo modprobe -r psmouse; sleep 2; sudo modprobe psmouse` does it fix your mouse?
[02:38] <Ben64> semitones: remove the sudo from the script
[02:38] <Nach0z> Got a question for yall that's more technical than most of what I know about ubuntu
[02:38] <pfifo> dmitry_, can you try your command once more and pastebin everything it says
[02:38] <dmitry_> I got it, it was supposed to be PATH=$PATH:$HOME/arm-2007q3/bin/
[02:39] <Nach0z> when I try to start up, my ubuntu refused to connect to the system bus, so I get no networking
[02:39] <semitones> pfifo: yes, it fixes the mouse. it's really handy!
[02:39] <semitones> Ben64: got it
[02:39] <Nach0z> says that it can't connect to /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket or something
[02:39] <dmitry_> do I need to export the PATH to save it? Will it overwrite the existing paths?
[02:39] <pfifo> dmitry_, and by pastebin I mean http://fpaste.org not ctrl+v in this channel
[02:39] <evoandroidevo> or pastbin.com lol
[02:39] <pfifo> semitones, then perhaps your forgot to chmod 0755 the file?
[02:40] <javier_> Hi! I installed coverflow extension for banshee and then changed its options (selected more resolution for some images it displays). After that, banshee crashed , and I can only make it work if I uninstall the extension, that I still would like to use. I believe the problem are those settings I made in coverflow extension, that persist after uninstalling and reinstalling it. Is there a way to reset those properties manually>? Thanks!
[02:40] <evoandroidevo> oh forgot the e always do that
[02:40] <DinoMuffin> Nach0z: so, how do you get it connected afterwards?
[02:40] <Nach0z> DinoMuffin: I don't. it never connects
[02:40] <DinoMuffin> oh
[02:40] <semitones> pfifo: i haven't saved the file yet, I just wanted to see if it made sense. Right now it looks like it would run the command when I suspended too, which doesn't make sense to me
[02:40] <DinoMuffin> can you post the exact log entry
[02:40] <DinoMuffin> ?
[02:41] <Nach0z> um. I can look. where's the system log in Ubuntu again?
[02:41] <DinoMuffin> /var/log
[02:41] <pfifo> semitones, ohh well you should try it and adjust accordingly, there doesnt seem to be any problems with the script
[02:41] <Nach0z> thanks. one sec
[02:41] <Girffe> When I try to edit the color of the panel in Ubuntu using Gnome color chooser, it only does this:
[02:41] <Girffe> http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q594/Girffe/ubuntu.png
[02:41] <Girffe> Is there a way to change the color of the entire bar>
[02:41] <semitones> pfifo: alright I'll give it a try. Thanks!
[02:41] <Nach0z> DinoMuffin: what's the actual logfile called that I'm looking in?
[02:42] <Nach0z> oh nevermind
[02:42] <DinoMuffin> probably either dmseg or syslog
[02:42] <Xdoc> Whos going to be Preident
[02:42] <Nach0z> DinoMuffin: pasting into pastebin now. I'm not actually ON my ubuntu right now, it's a different partition on this laptop, I'm just accessing the partition through an EXT3 reader
[02:42] <pfifo> Xdoc, #ubuntu-offtopic is going to win
[02:42] <DinoMuffin> ok
[02:42] <Nach0z> DinoMuffin: http://pastebin.com/pAMHge1P
[02:43] <DinoMuffin> thankies
[02:43] <Nach0z> DinoMuffin: hope you can help with this. I've tried a dozen times to fix this setup. I'd just reinstall manually if I had the disk and some way to keep my encrypted home folder thingy.
[02:45] <DinoMuffin> Nach0z: looks like a known bug
[02:46] <Nach0z> DinoMuffin: I aint had a look at that partition in almost three months so... dunno XD
[02:46] <DinoMuffin> Nach0z: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1859432
[02:46] <DinoMuffin> try wegorz solution
[02:47] <Nach0z> DinoMuffin: thanks.lemme try this out
[02:48] <DinoMuffin> k
[02:50] <Nach0z> DinoMuffin: ffs cygwin can't access the drive XD this might take a while
[02:50] <DinoMuffin> cygwin?
[02:50] <Nach0z> DinoMuffin: Um. What if there's no /var/lock? :S
[02:50] <DinoMuffin> why not boot into that partition?
[02:50] <Nach0z> DinoMuffin: cuz is broke :|
[02:50] <Nach0z> but yeah it looks like i'll have to resort to that
[02:50] <DinoMuffin> Nach0z: the installation is broken? or the harddrive?
[02:51] <Nach0z> but there's no /var/lock on my partition....
[02:51] <evoandroidevo> cygwin i could never get that to work
[02:51] <Nach0z> the installation is borked
[02:51] <DinoMuffin> Nach0z: oh :|
[02:51] <Nach0z> DinoMuffin: yeah. lol. that's what I'm tryin to fix
[02:51] <DinoMuffin> well, that's probably why it can't connect to the network
[02:51] <DinoMuffin> lol
[02:51] <DinoMuffin> so, reinstall ubuntu?
[02:51] <Nach0z> DinoMuffin: that's my point XD that's why I'm coming in here askin for help. the installation messed up the /run and /var/run stuff
[02:52] <Nach0z> DinoMuffin: I'd reinstall but my home folder is encrypted and I don't wanna lose all that work.
[02:52] <Nach0z> might copy my /var/lock off of my ubuntu server...
[02:52] <DinoMuffin> you shouldnt need to delete the home folder
[02:52] <Nach0z> to overwrite the OS on the drive?
[02:53] <DinoMuffin> well, is home it's own partition?
[02:53] <evoandroidevo> Nach0z y not just copy to a extrunal hard drive ? just in case
[02:53] <Nach0z> DinoMuffin: not that I'm aware of. it's encrypted but I'm not sure how that process works
[02:53] <DinoMuffin> hm
[02:53] <Nach0z> evoandroidevo: cant copy encrypted hidden stuff >_> can't even find it
[02:53] <Nach0z> brb though, letting the dog inside
[02:54] <DinoMuffin> i don't remember if ubuntu defaults to having it all one big partition, or a sepereate home partition
[02:54] <evoandroidevo> one big partion
[02:56] <Lirth> Anyone know why when I try to log in to Roboform Chrome extension for the first time it will crash Ubuntu? I get an error message about Kernels when it happens.
[02:57] <DinoMuffin> Nach0z: ok then, do you have a ubuntu live cd?
[02:57] <pfifo> no I remember it creating a swap partition when i used the default partition recommendation
[02:57] <dagerik> I am having trouble with running ubuntu(10.04) on a GMA500 laptop. The graphics are really sluggish. Should I upgrade to latest ubuntu?
[02:58] <Nach0z> DinoMuffin: nope. wish I did.
[02:58] <evoandroidevo> Lirth if u posted the log in a http://pastebin.com someone could help you
[02:58] <DinoMuffin> Nach0z: well, you need one
[02:58] <Nach0z> DinoMuffin: I've needed one for a looong time.
[02:58] <pfifo> Nach0z, you dont have 50 livecd coasters on your coffee table?
[02:59] <Lirth> evoandroidevo: My problem is it crashes, shows the error message for a second or two, and then goes to the log in screen and I don't get a chance to take it down.
[02:59] <DinoMuffin> Nach0z: you can manually access the data off the encrypted folders, but you need a live cd and the mount password
[02:59] <evoandroidevo> pfifo Y 50 u olny need 5
[03:00] <pfifo> ...per distro
[03:00] <evoandroidevo> lol
[03:00] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: it will save the last log to the dmesg.0 file in your /var/log folder
[03:00] <Nach0z> DinoMuffin: ah I see. that'd be cool. gonna reboot right now and see if I can beat this thing into submission. brb
[03:00] <JermBob> hey another question, how can i change the resolution in ubuntu ?
[03:01] <quixotedon> go to display
[03:01] <evoandroidevo> system settings then display
[03:01] <kah_> When I click delete, it redirects me to the page, without asking about if I want to delete... what ... is.. going... on... http://pastie.org/3293177
[03:01] <quixotedon> or type displays
[03:01] <quixotedon> JermBob: type displays
[03:01] <JermBob> ah my bad
[03:02] <JermBob> i was in the screen part
[03:02] <JermBob> thanks again
[03:02] <pfifo> kah_, this is ubuntu support
[03:02] <JermBob> you guys are choice with your help even if my questions are dumb
[03:02] <JermBob> haha
[03:02] <kah_> pfifo: shit! whoops sorry
[03:02] <pfifo> np
[03:04] <DinoMuffin> captain planet... he's a hero...gunna take polution down to zeero
[03:05] <DinoMuffin> Nach0z: so did it work?
[03:05] <LABcrab> Hello people!  i have a 2 GB and 4 GB DDR3 sticks in my laptop, but only the 2 GB stick is detected.  What went wrong?
[03:05] <DinoMuffin> Does it show up in your bios?
[03:05] <Lirth> Ok, my log from crashing in ubuntu when I tried to log into the chrome extension is here. I don't have any problems when I use it in WIndows 7. http://pastebin.com/Ckzwyuts
[03:05] <dagerik> LABcrab: It was not automatically mounted. You have to mount it manually.
[03:05] <pfifo> LABcrab, does the 4gb stick work when you install it by itself?
[03:05] <LABcrab> dagerik: Really?
[03:06] <LABcrab> pfifo: Don't feel like trying.
[03:06] <LABcrab> Not yet.
[03:06] <LABcrab> Not tonight.
[03:06] <pfifo> LABcrab, well i can tell you for sure, your not allowed to mix memory like that
[03:06] <LABcrab> Says who?
[03:07] <pfifo> LABcrab, dual channel memory doesnt work that way
[03:07] <LABcrab> Plus i have the other problem where if i put my mouse in the lower right corner, it gets trapped.
[03:07] <LABcrab> pfifo: So i have to put 8 GB and that's it?  What do i do with the 2 GB + 2 GB that comes with the laptop?
[03:07] <evoandroidevo> sell it
[03:07] <dagerik> LABcrab: Nevermnd my comment. I though you were mounting usb sticks
[03:07] <pfifo> LABcrab, the memory needs to be the same, 2, 2+2, 4, 4+4
[03:07] <evoandroidevo> keep it for just in case
[03:08] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: has it ever crashed like this before with any other program?
[03:08] <pfifo> LABcrab, its also possible your board doesnt support 4gb sticks, and the most you can have is 2+2
[03:08] <Lirth> DinoMuffin: Only with the Roboform extension right after turn my computer on and only in Ubuntu.
[03:08] <LABcrab> pfifo: but that's not fair, another computer has 1 GB + ½ GB of RAM DDR1.
[03:08] <LABcrab> pfifo: Up to 8GB according to Crucial.
[03:09] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: how many times, do you think?
[03:09] <pfifo> LABcrab, that was before dual channel architectures
[03:09] <LABcrab> Well, darn.  Gotta pay another $25.
[03:09] <LABcrab> Why is dual channel better?
[03:09] <pfifo> LABcrab, not reall, use only the 4 stick for now
[03:09] <Lirth> DinoMuffin: I don't turn my computer off often, but it happens every time as I can remember.
[03:09] <pfifo> LABcrab, twice as fast
[03:10] <LABcrab> pfifo: Then i'm not ahead compared to 2 GB + 2 GB i had before!
[03:10] <LABcrab> i get 0 GB of new memory!
[03:10] <pfifo> LABcrab, the 2+2 will be faster then the 4 alone
[03:10] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: and this is a laptop?
[03:10] <pfifo> LABcrab, but you should still test the 4 works all by itself
[03:11] <themaster_> Need some help
[03:11] <Lirth> DinoMuffin: Yes, HP Pavillion dv6
[03:11] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: thanks, 1 sec
[03:11] <Nach0z> DinoMuffin: IT WORKZ mwahahaha (thanks)
[03:11] <Lirth> DinoMuffin: It happens only once per time I turn the computer on. After that it's fine until I turn off the computer again.
[03:12] <themaster_> I need help with ubuntu server getting a command to run on boot
[03:13] <pfifo> !ask | themaster_
[03:13] <DinoMuffin> Nach0z: no prob :)
[03:13] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: oh
[03:14] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: sorry I misunderstood, I thought it was kernel panicking
[03:14] <themaster_> problem is this is urgent DX
[03:14] <evoandroidevo> themaster_ ask in more detail
[03:14] <LABcrab> pfifo: It's brand new and sealed from the store!  Unlikely it won't work.  What do i do with the 2 GB and 2 GB i have left?  Other computers with DDR2 won't take them!  Darn, who makes RAM like this?
[03:14] <Lirth> DinoMuffin: I'm completely new to ubuntu and the word kernel keeps coming up. What exactly is it?
[03:14] <themaster_> I need to launch a flash policy daemon on boot so it can run along my IRC server
[03:15] <themaster_> I have no idea how to start..
[03:15] <xangua> Lirth: the linux kernel
[03:15] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: kernel panic is the equivilant of a windows BSOD, basically
[03:15] <pfifo> LABcrab, I suggest you mail the 2 2GB to me.
[03:15] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: means something pretty bad happened and it can no longer run
[03:15] <LABcrab> pfifo: As a donation?
[03:16] <evoandroidevo> LABcrab u could sell them or keep them in case ur ram goes bad better safe than sorry
[03:16] <scientes> DinoMuffin, he is just seeing informational messages, probably on boot
[03:16] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: when it happens, either the computer completely freeses and nothing happens, or it goes to a terminal screen that gives you a stack trace
[03:16] <scientes> Lirth, to see kernel information, largely about hardware, type dmesg
[03:16] <LABcrab> evoandroidevo: Never had a RAM problem for almost four years on my older laptop, but maybe.
[03:17] <evoandroidevo> the computer im on now the ram goes out easily but its not mine so idc
[03:17] <pfifo> LABcrab, also, intel made memory like this
[03:17] <DinoMuffin> if it's a software error, as in you can still use your computer after the crash, it will likely be in your syslog file, rather than dmesg
[03:17] <LABcrab> What about my mouse being "trapped" at the bottom right, and i have to jig it out to get it out?
[03:18] <pfifo> LABcrab, I would keep the sticks, you might obtain a craptastic used box in the future that could use them
[03:18] <Guest32940> hi
[03:18] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: sorry if that's confusing, but if it's a kernel panic, you cannot use your computer until you manually restart it again
[03:18] <LABcrab> i guess.  They're only worth $12.50 a piece anyway, if you consider 4 GB = $25.
[03:18] <LABcrab> But the mouse problem is bugging me.  Fix please?
[03:18] <Lirth> DinoMuffin: I don't think it's that. It crashes and takes me to the log in screen, but I don't have to restart.
[03:19] <Nach0z> DinoMuffin: in the time that my ubuntu's been offline... I just did sudo apt-get update... 579 packages to be updated :| almost 600 megs
[03:19] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: ok, what it's doing then is killing the X server
[03:19] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: and restarting it
[03:19] <Guest32940> colorado state
[03:19] <DinoMuffin> Nach0z: lol, have fun with that
[03:19] <MrKeuner> hello, default LANG for a box is A, if I want B as for my user, how should I be handling this? I guess I should write LANG=B somewhere? .bashrc? .bash_login?
[03:19] <DinoMuffin> :{
[03:19] <DinoMuffin> :P
[03:20] <Nach0z> DinoMuffin: ikr :'<
[03:20] <scientes> B? LANG=C
[03:20] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: anyways, the log for that is Xorg.0.log.old
[03:20] <themaster_> >*>
[03:20] <xangua> MrKeuner: select the language on your login screen
[03:20] <scientes> export LANG=C
[03:20] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: if you can pastebin that, that would be awesome
[03:20] <scientes> otherwise you need a read region, ie LANG=zh_CN
[03:20] <evoandroidevo> brb
[03:20] <cyclicflux> Hello all!!!!
[03:21] <tycel2> hello
[03:21] <Lirth> DinoMuffin: As I said, I'm new to linux and ubunu, so... Huh? What is Xorg.0.log.old?
[03:21] <pfifo> MrKeuner, I put it in .profile
[03:21] <scientes> LANG=C means to skip gettext, and use the original text, instead of the translations
[03:21] <MrKeuner> xangua, no X access here
[03:21] <tycel2> so, appearantly Ubuntu wubi didn't find my drivers properly for my video card
[03:21] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: Xorg is the graphical user interface manager, so to speak.
[03:21] <scientes> MrKeuner, you see my stuff about LAND?
[03:21] <MrKeuner> pfifo, does that work for ssh sessions?
[03:21] <tycel2> its nvidia I believe (atleast it says so on the toshiba website)
[03:21] <scientes> *LANG
[03:21] <tycel2> so what do I have to install to get them to wrok?
[03:21] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: when programs crash under linux, they forward their error messages to /var/log
[03:21] <LABcrab> Am i the only person in the world that gets the mouse stuck on the bottom right, and then when i try to get it out, i have to shake it very hard so it moves elsewhere on the screen?
[03:21] <tycel2> work*?
[03:22] <tycel2> catalayst?
[03:22] <evoandroidevo> ahh better
[03:22] <dr_willis> hmm?
[03:22] <Guest32940> @Labcrap are you using a vm
[03:22] <MrKeuner> scientes, just notices, nut don't understand if I need de_DE.utf would still LANG=C work?
[03:22] <Lirth> DinoMuffin: I found it. Should I paste the whole thing?
[03:22] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: the file Xorg.0.log.old is the log from the last time X server ran
[03:22] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: yeah
[03:22] <pfifo> lol labcrap
[03:23] <scientes> MrKeuner, LANG=C gives you english, for 99.9% percent of packages, as most packages are written in english
[03:23] <LABcrab> Guest21792: one, it's "crab", two, i use VirtualBox once in a while, but happens with or without VBox.
[03:23] <scientes> but they don't have to be written in english, and otherwise you need the specific region code, even if en_US
[03:23] <Lirth> DinoMuffin: I can't figure out how to open it. I can't seem to find the way to open it in a text editor
[03:23] <scientes> *.utf8
[03:23] <cyclicflux> I am having some kind of strange issue with regard to my monitor intermittently going to sleep while I am using my computer. It goes to sleep fine when it is left, however, when I am using it, it appears that it intermittently goes to sleep. I changed my graphics settings to kms for my ati-5770, and blacklisted the appropriate modules in '/etc/modprobe.d/', as well as updated the 'GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT', with the 'radeon.m
[03:23] <cyclicflux> odeset=1', and then ran 'update-grub'
[03:24] <LABcrab> For example, i'm running Ubuntu natively right now, mouse gets stuck at bottom right unless i shake very hard.
[03:24] <themaster_> How do I get ubuntu server to initiate a command on boot?
[03:24] <scientes> LABcrab, that sounds very strange
[03:24] <cyclicflux> however, this appears to still intermittently happen, its kind of sporadic, and random, but has a tendency of coming in bursts
[03:24] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: if you're at a terminal, run "gedit Xorg.0.log.old"
[03:24] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: otherwise right click and open it with gedit
[03:24] <cyclicflux> themaster, I would think it would be something either in grub, or init-scripts
[03:25] <dr_willis> themaster_:  /etc/rc.local is one way
[03:25] <Lirth> DinoMuffin: Ok, it is at http://pastebin.com/KATsrmfr
[03:25] <pfifo> MrKeuner, yes if your shell is /ben/bash on the remote machine
[03:25] <pfifo> bin
[03:25] <themaster_> dr_willis how would I do it with that?
[03:26] <LABcrab> scientes: Why does this happen?  One of my only Ubuntu problems.
[03:26] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: thanks
[03:26] <cyclicflux> themaster, that would def. work, or you could source a script in your xsession. But it is important to remember what run-level you want it to occur on.
[03:26] <dr_willis> themaster_:  edit the file. its a script
[03:26] <themaster_> well it is a flashpolicy daemon
[03:26] <cyclicflux> Is anyone familiar with this happening with the hibernate/etc... of the monitor??? I am beginning to think that I am just going to have to recompile the damn kernel to get rid of the excess fat.
[03:27] <dr_willis> themaster_:  x gui app?
[03:27] <MrKeuner> pfifo, what about cron running as your user? can it have the LANG variable when you put it in .profile?
[03:27] <themaster_> No, not GUI its all terminal ubuntu server dr_willis
[03:27] <dr_willis> themaster_:  try rc.local then
[03:27] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: one more question, did this just start happening recently?
[03:27] <pfifo> MrKeuner, cron uses a blank enviroment, you need to take care to setup things correctly in cron
[03:27] <themaster_> dr_willis, it starts like ./flashpolicyd.rb
[03:27] <North_> ihavnoth:  Are you Korean?
[03:28] <cyclicflux>  I am having some kind of strange issue with regard to my monitor intermittently going to sleep while I am using my computer. It goes to sleep fine when it is left, however, when I am using it, it appears that it intermittently goes to sleep. I changed my graphics settings to kms for my ati-5770, and blacklisted the appropriate modules in '/etc/modprobe.d/', as well as updated the 'GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT', with the 'radeon.
[03:28] <cyclicflux> modeset=1', and then ran 'update-grub'. Does anyone know what else it could be?
[03:28] <MrKeuner> pfifo, ah OK, always thought my scripts not running well in cron was due to .bashrc .profile .bash_login confusion
[03:28] <dr_willis> themaster_:  use the full path and end it with &  in rc.local
[03:29] <DinoMuffin> cyclicflux: does it only happen under ubuntu?
[03:29] <Lirth> DinoMuffin: I just started with Linux after Christmas this year, and I didn't start using the Roboform Extension until about a week or two afterwards. I really started noticing it after I experienced it a few times which was last weekish. So it's been going on for almost the entire time.
[03:29] <evandro> hello
[03:30] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: ok
[03:30] <evandro> any asterisk users?
[03:30] <evoandroidevo> gtg
[03:30] <scientes> !any
[03:30] <scientes> evandro, #asterisk
[03:31] <evandro> I use freepbx
[03:31] <_pr0t0type_> hey guys, I put some old ppa repository that no longer works (url is dead), I deleted it from my /ect/apt/sources.list, however every time I run 'sudo apt-get update' the upgrade complains about errors from the already deleted deb ppa.  Is there anyway to fix this?
[03:31] <evandro> I just upgraded from 2.9 to 2.10 and I have problem with IRV
[03:32] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: well it's definitely crashing the X server, and it's not an unknown problem
[03:32] <Lirth> DinoMuffin: Is that good or bad?
[03:33] <cyclicflux> DinoMuffin, well aside from windows and ubuntu, I have had archlinux on here, however, not long enough to see it happen. It starts up, and then I did the kms setting and then it stopped for like a few weeks
[03:34] <cyclicflux> DinoMuffin, I thought maybe it could have been something in xorg setup. However, ubuntu's is very different than what I am used to with i.e. gentoo, archlinux, slax etc...
[03:34] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: it's good, it'll give me a better idea of how to approach the issue
[03:35] <cyclicflux> DinoMuffin, I checked the X.org.0.log, and there were no errors, and xsession-errors(I am not that familiar with what to look for in this), as well as the x-configuration
[03:35] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: lemme ask you, are you set on using chrome as your web browser?
[03:36] <DinoMuffin> cyclicflux: well what I was asking is weather or not your monitor is dying
[03:36] <cyclicflux> DinoMuffin, I thought it was the monitor however, it doesn't happen on Windows.
[03:36] <Lirth> DinoMuffin: Does this mean chrome is the cause?
[03:36] <cyclicflux> DinoMuffin, It could very well be(its only a year old)
[03:36] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: it looks like there are known conflicts with roboform and chrome on all operating systems
[03:36] <DinoMuffin> It might not be an issue on firefox
[03:37] <Lirth> DinoMuffin: That's strange. I haven't noticed it on windows 7 on this laptop or on XP at school.
[03:37] <DinoMuffin> cyclicflux: well, if the backlight is dying, the monitor will still have a green light
[03:37] <troy-> i have 11.10 installed - how can i encrypt the entire fs?
[03:37] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: well, those computers probably aren't using the same version of chrome
[03:38] <cyclicflux> DinoMuffin, greenlight? And is there a way to check?
[03:38] <Lirth> DinoMuffin: I just updated it. School doesn't preinstall chrome so I do it myself and it's the most recent version.
[03:38] <DinoMuffin> cyclicflux: if it doesn't have a glowing power button, next time it blanks out, hold a flashlight to the monitor
[03:39] <DinoMuffin> cyclicflux: if there's still a picture, your backlight or controller is dying
[03:39] <DinoMuffin> cyclicflux: if there's no picture at all, it just lost signal
[03:39] <cyclicflux> DinoMuffin, its stating it has lost signal
[03:40] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: I'm not sure how it is for Chrome, but for firefox, it lags behind the windows versions
[03:40] <DinoMuffin> cyclicflux: ok, nevermind then
[03:40] <cyclicflux> DinoMuffin, it says something like going into standby-mode. Do you think its something with the acpi/power-mgmt(thats included in ubuntu) for laptops, or pm-utils that is causing it?
[03:40] <LABcrab> Did i miss anything regarding how to fix the mouse?
[03:40] <DinoMuffin> cyclicflux: only two things I can think of that would shutdown the monitor are power settings and the screensaver program
[03:41] <Lirth> DinoMuffin: Do you have any idea (no matter how unlikely) why it works for windows but not Ubuntu for me?
[03:42] <cyclicflux> DinoMuffin, would you like me to pastebin one of my logs for you to see??
[03:42] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: it's hard to be exactly sure without more information. But there could be an issue between the versions, there could be some rendering issue or memory access violation
[03:43] <DinoMuffin> cyclicflux: sure
[03:43] <Lirth> DinoMuffin: You said that it lags behind the versions. Does this mean that I have to be patient when I'm logging in and let it load?
[03:43] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: usually things don't take down the Xserver though
[03:44] <cyclicflux> DinoMuffin, which one would you like to see xsessionerrors?? or syslog-ng??
[03:44] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: did you say before that it only crashes once and then works fine afterwards?
[03:44] <H264> hey, I have a .deb where the dependency is already met (I compiled and installed it myself), how do I tell dpkg that this dependency is met?
[03:44] <Lirth> DInoMuffin: Correct. It takes me to the log in screen. Then I log in and I can open Chrome, do the same thing, and it works fine.
[03:45] <DinoMuffin> cyclicflux: lemme ask, does it happen when you're typing? Or just when you leave it alone for a few seconds?
[03:45] <MrKeuner> hi, how can I change the LANG that sudo uses?
[03:45] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: that is a bit odd
[03:46] <Lirth> DinoMuffin: Exactly!
[03:46] <MrKeuner> hi, how can I change the LANG that sudo uses? added de_DE.utf8 to /root/.profile but did not work
[03:46] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: lol sorry, it's a pretty complex problem
[03:47] <cyclicflux> DinoMuffin, it happens most of the time when I am typing, and maybe once when I leave it alone. However, it always happens when I am using the computer(as little as once a week, or as much as 8x's a day). Its been going on for like a few weeks or so
[03:47] <DinoMuffin> cyclicflux: but it wakes up afterwards right?
[03:48] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: it's almost acting like there is some driver issue
[03:48] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: but that's not something that normally clears up by itself
[03:48] <cyclicflux> DinoMuffin, yes, if it is in its genuine sleep/hibernation(when I've left the computer). However, when using the PC, and it does it doesn't wake up. Nothing I have tried can wake it, I even tried 'setterm' command from archlinux.org and it didn't work
[03:49] <LABcrab> Nobody has a solution for mouse stuck in lower right corner?  10 minutes before i leave.
[03:49] <Nach0z> LABcrab: I'm assuming you've tried rebooting?
[03:49] <DinoMuffin> cyclicflux: that's bizzare too
[03:50] <DinoMuffin> cyclicflux: almost like its not seeing the interrupt
[03:50] <DinoMuffin> man you people and your weird problems today
[03:50] <DinoMuffin> lol
[03:50] <DinoMuffin> 1 sec
[03:50] <cyclicflux> DinoMuffin, even though the monitor disconnects like its going to sleep, it really isn't due to the fact its not waking up.
[03:50] <unnamed12593> Could someone point me in the right direction here, I'm trying to figure out what channel I should ask a question regarding creating and mounting volumes using dmsetup on ubuntu.  #lvm is completely silent
[03:51] <Lirth> DinoMuffin: Thanks for all the help. Honestly, I have no idea why nice people sit in the chat rooms to help out people like me. I really appreciate it though.
[03:51] <cyclicflux> DinoMuffin, in one of the xsession-error logs, I saw that the gnome-settings-daemon stated it lost connection with the display or screen(or something like that), due to something else using it. However, it didn't disclose what else could be using it.
[03:51] <LABcrab> Nach0z: for the mouse?  Does nothing.
[03:52] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: no problem :). I enjoy doign it
[03:52] <Nach0z> LABcrab: so you HAVE rebooted then. If that didn't help, then I don't know. sounds like either A. a bad driver or B. you got some broke hardware
[03:52] <cyclicflux> DinoMuffin, hahahahahaha I have never had this happen before
[03:52] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: sometiems these problems get really complicated however
[03:53] <LABcrab> Nach0z: will test it on another machine, but yeah, pretty sure it's driver.
[03:53] <Nach0z> LABcrab: sorry I can't help more
[03:53] <semitones> hello
[03:53] <semitones> I'd like to run a script on "resume" -- how can I do that?
[03:54] <Lirth> DinoMuffin: Takes a lot of focus and a lot of time. Wish I had either.
[03:54] <DinoMuffin> cyclicflux: if it happens again, try pressing ctrl + alt + f1 to enter single user mode
[03:54] <semitones> I have a command I run every time I resume from sleep. How can I make it a script that runs automatically?
[03:54] <cyclicflux> DinoMuffin, didn't work, hahahahaha
[03:54] <DinoMuffin> cyclicflux: :|
[03:55] <cyclicflux> DinoMuffin, what could take the connection from gnome-settings-daemon?
[03:55] <dagerik> Ubuntu is not detecting my external 24' screen's highest resolution. I tried adding the 1920x1080 resolution using xrandr like this: http://folk.ntnu.no/dageriv/images/2012-02-01_04.50.38.png But it "Failed to change the screen configuration!". Suggestions?
[03:55] <DinoMuffin> Lirth: i'd reccomend trying it under firefox
[03:55] <DinoMuffin> oh he left
[03:55] <cyclicflux> DinoMuffin, should I maybe re-compile the kernel? Eliminate all modules and make it monolithic?
[03:55] <DinoMuffin> :/
[03:56] <DinoMuffin> cyclicflux: sorry, i don't remember if i asked, but is this a recent thing that has started happening?
[03:57] <Jordan_U> cyclicflux: Making your kernel image more monolithic isn't going to help anything.
[03:57] <cyclicflux> dinomuffin, yes, and I know my problem sucks, I would rather have a different one as well!!
[03:57] <DinoMuffin> cyclicflux: lol
[03:57] <cyclicflux> dinomuffin, hahahahaha
[03:57] <cyclicflux> Jordan_U, why wouldn't it?
[03:58] <DinoMuffin> cyclicflux: well, if its something that just started happening recently...
[03:58] <Jordan_U> cyclicflux: Becuase it's the same code, with the same policy, either way. Why would it?
[03:58] <DinoMuffin> cyclicflux: i know the kernel was updated a few days ago
[03:59] <Barblah> Hi all.  I just upgraded a 10.04.3 machine and got a firefox9 upgrade.  is firefox 3.6 deprecated on 10.4.3?
[03:59] <DinoMuffin> hmmmmmmz
[03:59] <Barblah> and is there anyway to downgrade to 3.6.x?
[03:59] <cyclicflux> Jordan_U, to stream-line it, minimize excess code, as well as load-time, which not only would boost performance it would minimize the likelihood for error, which if my history serves me right is the reason they initially created the monolithic kernel for Multix
[04:00] <Nach0z> Barblah: I don't think there's ANY way to get firefox 3.6 on ubuntu anymore. that's olllld.
[04:00] <floorlava> I have no forward-back icons in epiphany, or power button on GDM. What icon pack am I missing?
[04:00] <DinoMuffin> cyclicflux: well, the fact that single user mode isn't overriding the blank tells me it's gotta be a kernel or driver issue
[04:00] <cyclicflux> DinoMuffin, you want me to pastebin the dmesg log
[04:00] <DinoMuffin> cyclicflux: what's your graphics adapter?
[04:00] <DinoMuffin> cyclicflux: sure
[04:00] <cyclicflux> dinomuffin, ati5770
[04:01] <cyclicflux> dinomuffin, juniper I believe
[04:01] <gopiballava> "The attempt to mount a file system with type swap in SCSI3 (0,0,0), partition #6 (sdb) at none failed"
[04:01] <LABcrab> Good night y'all and thanks!
[04:01] <gopiballava> Why is it trying to set up swap on sdb? Swap is supposed to be sda2
[04:02] <Jordan_U> cyclicflux: Building modules into the kernel doesn't actually make the code more monolithic. Reducing the modules, and thus code, that are loaded *might* make a difference, but I very much doubt it. Most bugs are in the logic of the code interaction with hardware. Neither of those is going to change by building your module into the kernel.
[04:02] <righteousRat> anyone know how to launch a desktop gui over x11
[04:02] <Jordan_U> cyclicflux: *logic of the code or interaction with hardware.
[04:03] <DinoMuffin> the ati driver might also be buggy now
[04:03] <gopiballava> It just hangs at this point. I've tried a few times.
[04:03] <righteousRat> ive seen someone do ssh'd into centos with some command. i think it had nautilus and gnome in the command name but i cant recall at the moment
[04:03] <Barblah> righteousRat: you mean X forwarding?  as in, ssh -YCc blowfish user@host xeyes
[04:03] <righteousRat> hmm let me rephrase my question. anyone know how to launch the desktop gui through ssh -X user@domain
[04:04] <DinoMuffin> try starting the file browser when in the ssh session
[04:04] <righteousRat> Barblah:  theres a command you type in the terminal you ssh'd into and it launches a desktop window
[04:04] <righteousRat> but i cant recall. was hoping someone here might remember it
[04:04] <righteousRat> even just a file browser really would be fine
[04:04] <gopiballava> Booting from USB. Any suggestions?
[04:04] <Barblah> righteousRat: nautilus is what you would want then
[04:04] <DinoMuffin> when in the session, type nautilus
[04:05] <DinoMuffin> yeah
[04:05] <righteousRat> thanks Barblah
[04:05] <gopiballava> (11.10 desktop 32 bit)
[04:06] <Gnea> !flash
[04:06] <gopiballava> I've never had much trouble with Linux installers, *especially* not just randomly hanging with silly error messages like this.
[04:08] <gopiballava> Any suggestions for a less broken installer? CLI installer?
[04:09]  * Gnea frowns at the fact that the flashplugin-installer for 11.04 doesn't install anything that works on amd64 with chromium
[04:09] <cyclicflux> Jordan_U, the basis for my statement was due to the fact that there are unnecessary modules with the ubuntu install things for laptop power-mgmt/etc, and although the modules are blacklisted, and the kernel has the right modules, there could still be memory mismanagement from other miscellaneous modules that didn't get filtered in the kernel's logic. Many times I would agree, however, this problem is something that I have tried
[04:09] <cyclicflux>  many things to solve and yet it hasn't worked
[04:09] <gopiballava> Told it not to use swap. Still doing it.
[04:09] <gopiballava> bloody hell.
[04:10] <cyclicflux> Jordan_U, while other very lean distros i.e. gentoo/archlinux that are fully-customizable and everything is compiled on system I have never had this problem with. Plus, the ubuntu packages have a tendency of lagging a bit with regard to versions of the code
[04:11] <cyclicflux> DinoMuffin, what do you think. I will gladly pastebin my dmesg log or any other log
[04:11] <DinoMuffin> dmesg would be a good start
[04:11] <gopiballava> What Linux distribution should I switch to? Cause I don't have the patience to deal with installers that hang like this.
[04:12] <dr_willis> gopiballava:  go to the distrowatch website and pick one
[04:12] <Gnea> !ppa
[04:12] <ben_zen> hey, so I've got a question about how the LiveCD creates what it sees as a « hard drive »
[04:13] <J7> my microphone isn't working. can someone please help me?
[04:13] <DinoMuffin> !tmpfs
[04:13] <J7> it's the jack
[04:13] <DinoMuffin> ben_zen: you mean the temp file system?
[04:13] <J7> the microphone input won't work
[04:14] <cyclicflux> DinoMuffin, I checked X.org's site for the ati-5770 support and it is fully supported for KMS, and benchmarks from phoronix state it is undoubtedly faster. The one semi-weird thing I think is that of the connector I am using and that is I believe a parallel port to vga connector(this came with the computer)
[04:14] <ben_zen> DinoMuffin: sort of, I guess.
[04:14] <DinoMuffin> J7: go to your alsamixer and check the mic level
[04:14] <ben_zen> (I'm trying to figure out if I've got a bad memory slot or bad firmware, and this may be the solution.)
[04:15] <DinoMuffin> ben_zen: oh? booting issues?
[04:15] <ben_zen> DinoMuffin: no booting issues
[04:15] <ben_zen> but I installed two 4GB SODIMMs and it's telling me it only sees one
[04:15] <ben_zen> even after flipping them
[04:16] <DinoMuffin> cyclicflux: did you post your dmesg?
[04:16] <ben_zen> however, when I loaded up the live cd, it said I had 3.6GiB of RAM, and 3.9GB of disk space
[04:16] <ben_zen> that looks mysteriously similar to a full 8GB of RAM installed to me.
[04:16] <DinoMuffin> ben_zen: were you using a 32x cd?
[04:16] <ben_zen> DinoMuffin: no, AMD64
[04:18] <DinoMuffin> ben_zen: well tmpfs has a max size limit
[04:18] <DinoMuffin> I think it defaults to half physical ram size
[04:19] <ben_zen> DinoMuffin: that answered my question, I think. The answer isn't pretty, but that's what I was wondering about.
[04:19] <DinoMuffin> I can link you to further specs if you'd like
[04:20] <ben_zen> DinoMuffin: yeah, definitely. I just want to be sure that's what's up
[04:20] <DinoMuffin> I don't remember if a livecd retains that limit or not, but it would make sense given what youv'e said
[04:20] <ben_zen> (since now I get to yell at Apple about EFI not working)
[04:20] <DinoMuffin> ben_zen: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/marcelo/linux-2.4/Documentation/filesystems/tmpfs.txt
[04:21] <ben_zen> yep, half of physical RAM.
[04:21] <ben_zen> Which means Ubuntu could read everything in my system ...
[04:21] <ben_zen> but the Apple Hardware Tool, OS X itself, and memtest couldn't … -_-
[04:22] <DinoMuffin> ben_zen: osx couldn't read >4gb o_O
[04:22] <J7> my mic levels are all the way up, DinoMuffin
[04:22] <ben_zen> DinoMuffin: I think it's an EFI problem
[04:22] <DinoMuffin> ben_zen: oh
[04:22] <ben_zen> because it's only reading the existence of a SODIMM in bank0/dimm0
[04:22] <ben_zen> bank1/dimm0 reads as empty
[04:23] <DinoMuffin> ben_zen: weird
[04:23] <ben_zen> DinoMuffin: in a word, yes. This was happening before, too, I discovered … when I cracked the case, expecting to see one DIMM, and saw two.
[04:23] <ben_zen> (I upgraded from 4GB to 8GB today, only I thought I was upgrading from 2GB)
[04:24] <DinoMuffin> J7: what are you trying to do, if you don't mind me asking?
[04:24] <J7> I'm trying to get my mic to work on Skype, DinoMuffin
[04:24] <J7> it doesn't work for anything, DinoMuffin
[04:25] <byoungmn> Is the mic working on anything else???
[04:25] <J7> ni
[04:25] <J7> no
[04:25] <byoungmn> Oh, you answered that
[04:25] <J7> I know the mic itself works
[04:26] <J7> works with other computers
[04:26] <byoungmn> Do the speakers work
[04:26] <J7> yes
[04:27] <byoungmn> just not the mic
[04:27] <ben_zen> DinoMuffin: thanks for the help!
[04:28] <J7> byoungman, that's right
[04:28] <J7> byoungmn, that is correct
[04:29] <byoungmn> Are you sure the mic port on the card is good
[04:29] <J7> no, i'm not
[04:30] <byoungmn> I'd first try a meter on the port and see if your gettign a signal from the port
[04:30] <gopiballava> Ok, bug report for the installer filed.
[04:30] <byoungmn> play some music
[04:31] <byoungmn> into the mic
[04:32] <byoungmn> or a card if you have a known good one
[04:32] <harris> hello
[04:32] <DinoMuffin> hi
[04:33] <harris> i tried making linux USB bootable
[04:33] <cyclicflux> DinoMuffin, well thanks for your help, I know there is some logical explanation for it, however as of now no one has been sure. I feel like I need to find someone or some instructions that are very very illustrative of the inner-workings of x, framebuffer, graphics/video, & debugging the kernel. This is undoubtedly the most terrible of terrible problems.
[04:33] <harris> on thumbdrive
[04:33] <harris> i tried unetbootin
[04:33] <cyclicflux> hahahahahahahahaha
[04:33] <DinoMuffin> cyclicflux: lol, sorry bout that
[04:33] <harris> but my computer will not boot from it, it keeps getting stuck on here http://askubuntu.com/questions/68781/installation-problems-on-dell-xps-15z
[04:33] <harris> and keeps refreshing
[04:33] <harris> i used a sandisk cruzer usb drive, could that sandisk be the problem?
[04:34] <kurtul> how can i type 5digit unicode characters? i can type 4 digits using ctrl+shift+u+4digit.
[04:34] <cyclicflux> DinoMuffin, its all good you def. recommended everything that I eventually found to do in the past few weeks. Do you think I should move up to ubuntu 11.04, I am using ubuntu 10.04 Backtrack 5 R1 with gnome2
[04:34] <cyclicflux> dinomuffin, as of now
[04:34] <em> is there a way to view all used sockets and release them if wanted?
[04:35] <DinoMuffin> cyclicflux: oh, any reason you're holding back?
[04:35] <Guest12237> hello all, Is it possible to encrypt the main folder after i have already installed ubuntu.or can that only bee done via installation
[04:36] <DinoMuffin> harris: probably not
[04:36] <cyclicflux> dinomuffin, because I am using backtrack's ubuntu. Is there a way to avoid having to re-install by changing the sources.list, and going with the official ubuntu 11.04 repositories???
[04:36] <cyclicflux> dinomuffin, it does look pretty sick, it being ubuntu 11.04
[04:37] <Guest12237> anyone know
[04:37] <DinoMuffin> cyclicflux: it's not something i've attempted before
[04:37] <Guest12237> if i can somehow encrypt my files after the installation proccess
[04:37] <cyclicflux> dinomuffin, I know typically one would only have to do a 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade' followed by an 'apt-get dist-upgrade'
[04:37] <benbloom> is tehre a way to route my webcam through vlc, in such a way that skype will recognize vlc's output as a webcam?
[04:38] <cyclicflux> DinoMuffin, do you think it would work??
[04:38] <DinoMuffin> cyclicflux: for backtrack?
[04:38] <Guest12237> that sounds interesting benbloom?
[04:39] <DinoMuffin> cyclicflux: i doubt going from bt to stock ubuntu through updates would go smoothly
[04:39] <Guest12237> Does Anyone know if it is possible to turn on encryption for my main folder After the installation process
[04:39] <benbloom> well Guest12237, most webcams come with a bundled app that allows you to preprocess video before skype/msn or whatever. I'm looking to VLC to do the same i guess
[04:40] <DinoMuffin> depends on how the kernel handles the camera
[04:40] <Guest12237> Yea true my logitech has this little program that lets you add things to it like back grounds etc. it also allows you to Pan tilt and zoom
[04:40] <Guest12237> pre skype
[04:40] <Guest12237> Does Anyone know if it is possible to turn on encryption for my main folder After the installation process
[04:41] <harris> what is BSSID for wireless connection?
[04:41] <DinoMuffin> Guest12237: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Setup_Your_Encrypted_Private_Directory
[04:41] <Guest12237> thanks
[04:42] <DinoMuffin> harris: you mean the mac address?
[04:42] <Guest12237> is this the same thing that is available in the installation process
[04:43] <DinoMuffin> or sorry not mac address
[04:43] <DinoMuffin> media access control
[04:43] <DinoMuffin> wait
[04:43] <Guest12237> i assumed it encrypted all of your files, from the glance that i gave it it looks like it makes a ./private dir
[04:43] <Ben64> mac address
[04:43] <DinoMuffin> damn i need to go to bed
[04:44] <DinoMuffin> my brain decided they weren't the same thing for some reaosn
[04:44] <cyclicflux> dinomuffin, werrrrrd!!! I am going to have to get going to bed as well shortly myself
[04:44] <cyclicflux> dinomuffin, thanks again bro
[04:44] <DinoMuffin> cyclicflux: no prob man
[04:46] <gopiballava> Hmm. So there are these warnings about Debian mirrors throttling bandwidth. I wonder what they throttle it to. I'm getting just over 25 mbits/sec.
[04:46] <rick__> anyone familiar with bluefish
[04:48] <xangua> !anyone | rick__
[04:48] <rick__> i opened it up and created a html doc very simple just a background color and put it on the server and thier is no color present
[04:48] <DinoMuffin> pastebin the code
[04:49] <DinoMuffin> even though its not really a ubuntu problem
[04:49] <harris> how do i setup wireless on LUBUNTU?
[04:49] <harris> when i try UBUNTU the wireless is very easy, but on LUBUNTU its not showing up right away, in fact, it does not even show the wireless card LED lighting up
[04:49] <danes> which is the best action game for ubuntu?
[04:50] <redscare> hello. is there a way to have alt-tab always show a window preview in unity?
[04:50] <aeon-ltd> danes: no best, and discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:51] <danes> aeon-ltd, I already did and nobody wants to discuss
[04:51] <rick__> can anyone anser?
[04:51] <Sebastien> answer *
[04:51] <Sebastien> rick__ this is #ubuntu not #html :/
[04:51] <Sebastien> people might not know.
[04:52] <DinoMuffin> rick__: it's either gunna be a problem with the html code, your browser (unlikely), or apache (very unlikely)
[04:53] <sqeeKEY> Does anyone know how to use fbsplash?
[04:55] <noyb> Hello.  I'm using Ubuntu 11.10.  When I tried to mount a cd-rom using gmount I got the little gmount-iso window.  It asks for the "image file (.iso).  No matter what I try it seems impossible to mount.  I've also tried using the command line.  I've looked online for a gmount tutorial.  The only ones I've found assume that you know how to figure out what the .iso file is on the cd-rom you are trying to mount.  I am thoroughly confused.  Any idea
[04:55] <redscare> is there anything that I can do to bind keys to window actions
[04:55] <noyb> s, anybody.  Thanks in advance from a lost noob.
[04:56] <Ben64> noyb: i'm confused, are you trying to mount a cd or an iso
[04:56] <DinoMuffin> noyb: what command did you try?
[04:56] <rick__> its coded like the book says
[04:57] <rick__> and it has always worked
[04:57] <noyb> Hello, Ben64... I'm trying to mount a cd-rom for my d-link dir-615 router.
[04:57] <cheapie> I accidentaly melted my keyboard. Can somebody suggest a good virtual keyboard?
[04:57] <Ben64> noyb: you don't need a cd for a router
[04:58] <harris> i want to make a bootable USB linux that actually works
[04:58] <harris> how?
[04:58] <pedahzur> Does anyone know why Chromium Browser is at v16 for i386 but only v14 for AMD64?
[04:58] <pedahzur> harris: unetbootin
[04:59] <dagerik> harris: Use startup disk creator or some other tool for creating startupdisks. One such other program is unetbootin
[04:59] <DinoMuffin> harris: what drive are you using?
[04:59] <noyb> Ben64... originally, I set up the router with the cd-rom... then forgot my password... I want to reset & reinstall the software... to do that I assume that I will need to use the cd-rom... just like last time.  Yes?  No?
[04:59] <cheapie> Hello? Anybody?
[04:59] <Ben64> noyb: you can reset the router with the button on the back of it
[04:59] <noyb> understood...
[05:00] <DinoMuffin> resetting the router doesn't erase the firmware
[05:00] <Ben64> noyb: also, the software on the cd is unnecessary and probably windows only
[05:00] <goddard> i can't click on the flash "Allow" button
[05:00] <goddard> it does nothing
[05:00] <LordKow> but resetting a router does reset the settings. beyond that there is not much else for a router reset button to reset.
[05:00] <DinoMuffin> cheapie: why not buy a new keyboard?
[05:01] <gandhijee> hey is there away to get a list of the recently installed packages, and what they mighthave changed?
[05:01] <goddard> anyone know how i can click it?
[05:01] <noyb> thanks, DinoMuffin...  understood LordKow...  be all that as it may... the real question is how to mount the cd-rom...
[05:02] <harris> i used UNETbootin
[05:02] <noyb> that is my primary area of confusion... or maybe not :-)
[05:02] <buntu> Can I use a capture card in ubuntu without mythtv?
[05:02] <harris> but now everytime i try to boot into the USB it gets stuck on the loadign screen
[05:02] <Ben64> noyb: the software on the cd will most likely not work in ubuntu
[05:03] <cheapie> DinoMuffin: I don't think my parents will take me to the store right now. I'm supposed to be sleeping...
[05:03] <harris> i keep getting stuck here: http://www.liberiangeek.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Install-Ubuntu-.04-Natty-Narwhal-via-USB_AB0F/natty_unethbootin_3.png
[05:03] <LordKow> noyb, no router should require software to be setup. so, I would maybe go to the router manufacturer's website and find the setup instructions there. having said that, ubuntu should still be able to mount the cd whether it can run the software or not.
[05:03] <DinoMuffin> cheapie: i don't know of any that work *well*, but there are a few in the ubuntu package manager
[05:03] <noyb> hmmm... on the envelope it says "for mac and linux users please use the documentation on the cd located in the 'docs' folder...
[05:03] <DinoMuffin> noyb: why do you need the cd in the first place?
[05:04] <LordKow> router or dsl modem?
[05:04] <harris> is LUBUNTU compatible with unetbootin?
[05:05] <DinoMuffin> noyb: I can't think of why ubuntu would need extra software to use or access a router
[05:05] <cheapie> DinoMuffin: OK. I'll try taking it apart and pressing the rubber domes.
[05:05] <noyb> DinoMuffin... because I can't get into my router to tweak it because I forgot my password & the only way to get in is to start over with a fresh install which can only be accomplished with the cd... unless I'm more of a noob than I thought.
[05:05] <Ben64> noyb: just hold down the reset button on the back of the router for about 30 seconds
[05:06] <noyb> understood...
[05:06] <LordKow> harris, you might have better luck asking in #lubuntu
[05:06] <DinoMuffin> noyb: usually you can hold the reset button down for 10 seconds and it will reset it to factoy defaults
[05:06] <noyb> understood...
[05:06] <DinoMuffin> noyb: then look up the model of your router and find the default password
[05:06] <DinoMuffin> noyb: it's usually some combination of admin and password
[05:07] <urlin2u> harris, should be but there are other usb loader look at pendrivelinux
[05:07] <urlin2u> loaders*
[05:07] <harris> ok, should my drive be FAT32 or NTFS? or it does not matter?
[05:07] <urlin2u> harris, fat32
[05:07] <harris> how can i see what my drive is right now?
[05:08] <harris> from windows 7
[05:08] <harris> oh nevermind, it is fat32 alread
[05:08] <urlin2u> harris, in the disk utility  in ubuntu or install gparted it is a partitioner as well
[05:08] <harris> should i format it and try again with pendrivelinux? i already made one with unetbootin
[05:08] <ubuntunewbie> Hello users , may i know how to access the files located in ubuntu ..those files are on the same partition in which ubuntu has been installed... did wubi...
[05:08] <urlin2u> harris, in ubuntu you can right click the thumb icon and format as well.
[05:09] <noyb> ok... but my problem remains the same... not the router... but how do I mount the cd... as I said, I tried using gmount as well as the command line... until I figure that out everything else is secondary... maybe I didn't explain myself clearly enough at first... it's been a l-o-n-g day.
[05:09] <dagerik> noyb: check out the mount commanad
[05:09] <noyb> tried that
[05:09] <DinoMuffin> noyb: you can mount a cd rom drive with: "sudo mkdir /media/cd ; sudo mount /dev/<cd drive> /media/cd"
[05:09] <DinoMuffin> <cd drive> being the block device for the drive. ususally sr0
[05:09] <harris> http://www.pendrivelinux.com which one do i get?
[05:10] <DinoMuffin> unmount with "sudo umount /media/cd"
[05:12] <noyb> I'll give it a try DinoMuffin... brb
[05:14] <cordoval> where do i find this folder? cd /apacheserverroot/conf/ssl.key (ssl.key is the default key directory.)
[05:15] <buntu> Is the ubuntu software center downloading things very slow - is that my problem or perhaps the application I'm downloading?
[05:15] <Zandow-X> hello
[05:15] <urlin2u> harris, one that is for linux
[05:15] <urlin2u> harris, I think unetbootin will do it have youtried?
[05:15] <Zandow-X> alguien habla español??
[05:16] <urlin2u> !es | Zandow-X
[05:16] <harris> yes i tried unetbootin, but now i am trying  pendrivelinux
[05:16] <Zandow-X> jeje es que en ubuntu-es nadie responde
[05:16] <Zandow-X>  veo que aca hay mas movimiento
[05:16] <cordoval> where do i find this ssl.key folderS?
[05:16] <cordoval> cd /apacheserverroot/conf/ssl.key (ssl.key is the default key directory.)
[05:16] <Ben64> Zandow-X: this is an English only channel
[05:16] <haylo> buntu in my experiance software center gets about 100 kb.s so yeah its slow
[05:17] <haylo> but not tooo slow
[05:17] <haylo> there are slower repos to draw from
[05:17] <haylo> try an unsupported local us repo if you really like fast DLs
[05:17] <goddard> i can't click on the flash "Allow" button
[05:18] <haylo> or whatever countries i snearest you
[05:18] <cheapie_> DinoMuffin: I just wanted to let you know that it is working now that I removed the top cover. I am pressing the little rubber domes manually.
[05:19] <buntu> hallo thank you.
[05:19] <saikat> can anyone tell me how to set 1200x800 resolution in ubuntu 10.04
[05:20] <saikat> using xrandr
[05:20] <noyb> DinoMuffin... typed in both items as per your suggestion... although the command line says /media/cd file exists. when i try to access it then it says it can't find /dev/sr0/media/cd in /etc/fstab or
[05:20] <noyb> sorry...
[05:20] <noyb> DinoMuffin... /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[05:21] <urlin2u> harris, I use this one the page is in french if you have your flash block turned off it will let you do a google translate, read carefully I suspect you may have problems, but works you just have to know how to load it. AND use gparted to format the thumb to fat32, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[05:21] <urlin2u> *it
[05:21] <noyb> maybe I should go back to using an abacus... :-)
[05:21] <Guest12237> cya
[05:21] <DinoMuffin> noyb: type lsblk
[05:22] <noyb> Isblk
[05:22] <DinoMuffin> L
[05:22] <urlin2u> harris, I guess it has a download from there now so follow the directions
[05:22] <noyb> lsblk
[05:22] <DinoMuffin> yes
[05:22] <noyb> ok
[05:22] <DinoMuffin> it will show what the block device is fior your cd
[05:22] <DinoMuffin> probably at the end
[05:23] <noyb> ok... checking
[05:23] <harris> pendrivelinux worked!
[05:23] <harris> it worked really well!
[05:23] <harris> thanks
[05:23] <harris> do i HAVE to format the usb drive before doing this process?
[05:25] <saikat> i need to set 1200x800 display resolution in ubuntu 10.04
[05:25] <saikat> can anyone help me
[05:25] <Miggs> Quick check with you guys - should a Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz/4GB/Nvidia m8400GS laptop be laggy with Ubuntu 11.10 in either Unity or Gnome Shell? I don't think it should be but I'm having the damnedest time working out the problem.
[05:26] <noyb> format: name - maj:min - rm - size - ro - mountpoint... as follows: sr0 - 11:0 - 1 - 76.5m - 0 - /media/DIR-615B2
[05:26] <xangua> Miggs: try a live cd and see
[05:26] <__vincent> is ubuntu currently the FASTEST distro?
[05:27] <Miggs> xangua: which live cd? I've got 11.10 on here now and it's laggy and often only does partial screen updates for several seconds.
[05:27] <aeon-ltd> __vincent: fastest for what?
[05:27] <__vincent> boot time and app start up
[05:27] <__vincent> and execution
[05:27] <aeon-ltd> __vincent: heheh no
[05:27] <aeon-ltd> sadly
[05:27] <__vincent> which one would you recommend
[05:27] <xangua> !ot | __vincent
[05:27] <aeon-ltd> __vincent: depends on how much you know and how much spare time you've got
[05:28] <__vincent> you cant compile kernel in ubuntu?
[05:28] <aeon-ltd> __vincent: you can
[05:28] <xangua> you can also try ##linux for a linux general discussion __vincent , but Lubuntu is the lighter flavor of ubuntu, uses lxde destop and few resources
[05:28] <aeon-ltd> __vincent: i'll meet you in ##linux
[05:30] <rick__> anyone know how to change the channel on smuxi to #html
[05:30] <noyb> DinoMuffin... format: name - maj:min - rm - size - ro - mountpoint... as follows: sr0 - 11:0 - 1 - 76.5m - 0 - /media/DIR-615B2
[05:31] <rick__> window
[05:31] <noyb> DinoMuffin... is /media/DIR-615B2 the block device you spoke of?
[05:31] <sartan> ack, forget the package to install to return the old gnome behavior instead of unity.. gnome-something, and apt-cache search is giving me a few too hundred many results
[05:32] <rick__> help please
[05:33] <Ben64> rick__: /join #html
[05:33] <sqeeKEY> Does anyone know how to use fbsplash?
[05:34] <cheapie_> Finished working on my keyboard. Turns out I have 4 backslash keys.
[05:35] <DinoMuffin> oh
[05:35] <DinoMuffin> noyb: there's a space between those two paramaters you put in earlier
[05:35] <__vincent> i cant write to that channel
[05:35] <__vincent> what do you think of this article http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_arch_faster&num=1
[05:35] <DinoMuffin> it should look exactly like this: sudo mount /dev/sr0 /media/cd
[05:36] <urlin2u> sqeeKEY, where you getting it from?
[05:36] <noyb> DinoMuffin... I'll try it again
[05:36] <LordKow> sartan, perhaps you are looking for gnome-session-fallback
[05:36] <sartan> that sounds right, thanks.
[05:36] <cheapie_> Now... is there a way to change the num lock state via software?
[05:37] <dagerik> I just noticed remote desktop is on my startup applications. Is thi sby default in 10.04?
[05:38] <urlin2u> dagerik, yes
[05:38] <acidrain> i have installed a gtk user interface for an application. when i type "monosim" as the tutorial suggests, i get command not found. any solutions?
[05:38] <urlin2u> dagerik, not setup you have to do that.
[05:38] <dagerik> urlin2u: I dont understand your last sentence
[05:39] <sartan> LordKow: aced it, that was exactly what i was looking for. thanks mate
[05:39] <acerimmer> dagerik: yes.
[05:39] <urlin2u> dagerik, you have to set up a remote desktop situation, I never have myself .
[05:39] <noyb> DinoMuffin... typed it exactly... heard the cd drive spool up... "command line says: "mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[05:40] <urlin2u> !remotedesktop
[05:40] <DinoMuffin> that's fine
[05:40] <DinoMuffin> noyb: go to /media/cd in your file browser and the files will be there
[05:40] <sqeeKEY> urlin2u, I have not got it yet, but just doing some research. I would like to set a background image for the console, I do not use X
[05:40] <DinoMuffin> noyb: unmount it later with: sudo umount /media/cd
[05:40] <DinoMuffin> now it is nappytime
[05:40] <DinoMuffin> g'night
[05:41] <sqeeKEY> urlin2u, I believe I must recompile the kernel for it to work.
[05:41] <urlin2u> sqeeKEY, not in the ubuntu repos not really supported here per say, does not mean nobody will help but I would not hold my breath.
[05:42] <urlin2u> sqeeKEY, I think this is it not sure really. http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/07/connect-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx-remote-desktop-windows-machines/
[05:42] <noyb> thanks, DinoMuffin... later
[05:42] <urlin2u> sqeeKEY, maybe not either.
[05:43] <sqeeKEY> urlin2u: remote-desktop-windows?
[05:43] <urlin2u> sqeeKEY, there are a number of ways people remote to other computers if you have an I dea what you want to do I would just ask how to do that here.
[05:44] <sqeeKEY> urlin2u: I do not want to remote.. I would like to set the background image for a TTY
[05:44] <sqeeKEY> urlin2u: I think it uses framebuffer
[05:44] <urlin2u> sqeeKEY, way outside my pay range. :D
[05:45] <sqeeKEY> urlin2u: well, thanks for trying ;)
[05:45] <urlin2u> sqeeKEY, np.
[05:45] <sqeeKEY> urlin2u: gentoo, & backtrack both have a nice fbsplash..ubuntu has a splash image for the boot menu but the console is still just black
[05:46] <urlin2u> sqeeKEY, I use burg it is adequate, there is appa for it.
[05:46] <urlin2u> a ppa*
[05:46] <thetinyjesus> does anyone know when ios 5 support will happen?
[05:47] <Ben64> thetinyjesus: what support
[05:47] <thetinyjesus> i can mount my iphone 4s, but when I transfer it says it's successful but the songs don't show up
[05:47] <urlin2u> sqeeKEY, burg is awhole bootloader though just to get a image to choose from you would want to know how to load the mbr.
[05:47] <Zandow-X> i phone sucks!!!
[05:47] <sqeeKEY> urlin2u: burg looks cool
[05:48] <Zandow-X> burg is cool XD
[05:48] <thetinyjesus> actually it does not suck it is nice to have a phone that never crashes or needs to be rebooted kinda like linux on a pc
[05:48] <urlin2u> I have like 5 OS right now on my HD so burg looks nicer with all those kernel lines
[05:49] <thetinyjesus> i just didn't know if there was a way to actually transfer music to an ios 5 device yet
[05:49] <sherif> hi guys anyone knows how to make flash applications works faster on ubuntu
[05:50] <sqeeKEY> urlin2u: what do you need 5 OS for..ubuntu is the only thing needed ;)
[05:50] <urlin2u> sherif, your using chrome or firefox?
[05:50] <acerimmer> urlin2u: commitment issues?
[05:50] <sherif> urlin2u chromium
[05:50] <obelich> hiyas good night all
[05:50] <bullgard4> Who is the user of »User ID 324821 « in http://www.identi.ca/ubuntudev?
[05:50] <urlin2u> sqeeKEY, one is W7 the others are for helping other users on other channels, and I like a variety to learn from.
[05:51] <almoxarife> sherif: which flash version you using?
[05:51] <sqeeKEY> urlin2u: yeah, I use virtualbox :D
[05:51] <obelich> one question anyone know where can download the brainstorm in clean ? http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/
[05:51] <sherif> urlin2u how cud i know?
[05:51] <urlin2u> sqeeKEY, I only have a netbook with 2 gigs ram, so they run to slow in a virtual.
[05:52] <urlin2u> bullgard4, how would we know?
[05:54] <obelich> or any app like ubuntu brainstorm
[05:54] <obelich> ?
[05:54] <sherif> urlin2u i update my system from update manager is flash included?
[05:54] <sherif> urlin2u or it has different update?
[05:54] <urlin2u> sherif, not n a stock setup in chromium I don't know don't use it.
[05:54] <urlin2u> in
[05:54] <sherif> almoxarife how cud i know
[05:55] <sherif> urlin2u do u use mozilla?
[05:55] <urlin2u> sherif, yeah F with some select addons runs pretty fast.
[05:55] <urlin2u> firefox
[05:56] <sherif> urlin2u i c so there shud be addons for chromium too right?
[05:56] <almoxarife> bullgard4: http://identi.ca/conversation/89569647#notice-89757060 <-- that help?
[05:57] <urlin2u> sherif, don't use it not sure, if there is not even a 1% of FF's addons at best
[05:57] <urlin2u> sherif, what is your chip speed and ram amount?
[05:57] <almoxarife> sherif: u kud luk at i-der extensions or plugins
[05:58] <sherif> urlin2u dont know but flas works well on windows
[05:58] <sherif> almoxarife where is that
[05:58] <sherif> flash*
[05:59] <goddard> anyone used luckyBackup?
[06:00] <urlin2u> goddard, I like grsync better for a gui back up using rsync.
[06:01] <almoxarife> sherif: flash is an installed app, what ever you use to install apps should allow you to look for 'flash', i use synaptic, so i would look for 'flash' in the 'installed' tab, i would see that i installed the official adobe flash for amd64
[06:01] <urlin2u> goddard, you want a full OS backup?
[06:02] <goddard> urlin2u: complete as possible would be nice but mostly just configuration settings and home information
[06:02] <goddard> urlin2u: i would like the option though so i can make a complete back up at times but then switch to a simple one later
[06:02] <urlin2u> goddard, I just use grsync for home and clonezilla for the whole OS.
[06:02] <sherif> almoxarife its adobe flash plugin for mozilla maybe thats y it doesnt work well with chromium
[06:03] <almoxarife> goddard: when you are done fiddling with all the various methods look at 'deja-dup', its too simple and allows for restoring via nautilus files/folders
[06:04] <goddard> urlin2u: ahh nice those look good
[06:04] <goddard> anyone else have problems with flash that needs you to click their warning menu ? i can't click on the flash "Allow" button
[06:04] <almoxarife> sherif: no, cant be, i use chromium, and adobe flash 64, then again 'fast' is relative, i dont know what you are seeing that is 'slow'
[06:05] <urlin2u> goddard, I also have all ny own stuff on a external drive mostly just the OS on the netbook.
[06:05] <sherif> almoxarifeflashplugin-installer 11.1.102.55ubuntu0.11.10.1 i have this version installed
[06:06] <sherif> almoxarife flashplugin-installer 11.1.102.55ubuntu0.11.10.1
[06:06] <almoxarife> goddard: flash running on what comes up with a warning?
[06:06] <urlin2u> !rsync
[06:06] <sherif> almoxarife when u play flash games on facebook its very slow
[06:06] <bullgard4> almoxarife: How does http://identi.ca/conversation/89569647#notice-89757060 answer my question?
[06:07] <codepython777> I want to convert a png file to a windows ".ico"file on ubuntu. I tried "convert" but it errors out --convert: width or height exceeds limit  -- any other ideas?
[06:07] <almoxarife> sherif: i have 'adobe-flash' installed, you on a 32bit system?
[06:08] <sherif> almoxarife yes
[06:08] <almoxarife> bullgard4: should have answered the 'who' wrote it
[06:09] <LordKow> codepython777, i believe you want your png to be 256x256 or smaller, has to be square as well
[06:09] <sherif> almoxarife is it adobe flash plugin 11
[06:09] <codepython777> LordKow: it indeed is
[06:09] <almoxarife> sherif: yeap
[06:09] <bullgard4> almoxarife: You said: "{It} should." But did it?
[06:09] <codepython777> i even tried 128x128 -- same error
[06:10] <LordKow> what about 48x48 just for testing purposes?
[06:10] <sherif> almoxarife there are 2 softwares in the software store
[06:10] <almoxarife> sherif: do i guess what they are?
[06:10] <codepython777> cant live with that size
[06:11] <urlin2u> codelurker, resize in gimp
[06:11] <acerimmer> codepython777: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa511280.aspx
[06:11] <Jimu_> Ubuntu's (11.10) default desktop is Gnome 3? Unity is just the launcher on the left, right?
[06:11] <urlin2u> codepython777, resize in gimp
[06:11] <bullgard4> Jimu_: No.
[06:11] <urlin2u> Jimu_, unity is its own desktop, nt gnome 3
[06:12] <urlin2u> not*
[06:12] <bullgard4> Jimu_: Default is Unity.
[06:12] <sherif> almoxarife 1-Adobe Flash plugin installer for the Adobe Flash plugin for Mozilla  2-Adobe flash plugin 10
[06:12] <almoxarife> bullgard4: yes it did, google is a power tool, may i help you in its use? i would recommend 'googlizer' for gnome, i have a script that would do same for kde
[06:13] <idarkside> hi
[06:13] <idarkside> how can i install sslv2 on ubuntu
[06:13] <Jimu_> Okay, so Unity is Gtk 3.0 then? Cause I can alter the desktop icon text colors under /usr/share/themes/THEMENAME/...something i forget
[06:13] <almoxarife> sherif: be reckless, try the 11
[06:13] <sherif> almoxarife i did
[06:14] <codepython777> png -> ico converters on ubuntu? any?
[06:14] <LordKow> Jimu_, do not feel like you're the only lost linux user, most are. there are layers upon layers of APIs
[06:15] <Jimu_> If I'm trying to learn how to create a window/shell theme for Ubuntu's Unity, do I aim for Gtk 3.0?
[06:15] <LordKow> frontends to the frontends of the backends which frontend ten more backends and it never ends
[06:15] <almoxarife> sherif: when all is done i dont think you will see any appreciable change, but who knows, i believe your slow flash is a slow connection
[06:15] <Jimu_> LordKow: heh, yep
[06:15] <idarkside> possible
[06:15] <sherif> almoxarife i dont think so its 1 mega and i told u it works very fine on windows
[06:15] <idarkside> ?
[06:15] <bullgard4> almoxarife: i asked at the outset: "Who is the user of »User ID 324821 « in http://www.identi.ca/ubuntudev?" Now you are telling me "google is a power tool." Is that all you are able to answer this question? I know Goggle well, and this does not answer my question at the outset.
[06:16] <scriptwarlock> The problem is the login screen is divided into two showing a onscreen keyboard like thing in the left side and the same magnified in the other side
[06:16] <scriptwarlock> anyone?
[06:16] <almoxarife> sherif: windows then sounds like the ticket, i am telling you now
[06:17] <scriptwarlock> anyone knows how to sort this out?: The problem is the login screen is divided into two showing a onscreen keyboard like thing in the left side and the same magnified in the other side
[06:17] <Jimu_> scriptwarlock: this is on a desktop computer?
[06:17] <scriptwarlock> Jimu_: yes
[06:17] <idarkside> how can i install sslv2 on ubuntu please
[06:17] <sherif> almoxarife wut ticket?
[06:17] <Ben64> you can install flash from adobe.com
[06:17] <Jimu_> scriptwarlock: and this happened on a new install, or maybe a reboot after an ill-conceived config change?
[06:17] <scriptwarlock> Jimu_:  can't launch safe mode can't type any letters nothing but a magnifier
[06:18] <scriptwarlock> Jimu_:  not fresh install
[06:18] <scriptwarlock> Jimu_:  kids playing the login screen, darn
[06:19] <Ben64> have you tried turning it off and then on again?
[06:19] <scriptwarlock> Jimu_:  but i have now fired the live cd but i need to locate the on screen keyboard to disable, you have idea where to hunt the config?
[06:19] <idarkside> _m2crypto is calling sslv2qq in ubuntu n i need to fix it plz
[06:20] <Jimu_> scriptwarlock: ugh, that's the worst. The right side of the screen is a magnified view of the left side? does it move? i don't know anything about it, but this is gathering details
[06:20] <scriptwarlock> Jimu_:  yeah worst than i think of, yes magnified but it's black so i'm dead blind to the login screen.
[06:22] <Jimu_> sounds like two different accessibility features at once - a zoom feature and the virtual keyboard feature. I'd start by looking up how to turn on and off those features on the login. The kids didn't actually log in, right? so it must be settings you can make from the login?
[06:23] <scriptwarlock> Jimu_:  yeah
[06:24] <urlin2u> scriptwarlock, your going to have to change your nic now. :D
[06:24] <scriptwarlock> Jimu_:  the only remedy i think was to hunt down the conf file via live cd heres the command to disable but i have no clue where to find this file "sudo -u gdm gconftool-2 /desktop/gnome/applications/at/screen_magnifier_enabled --type bool --set false"
[06:24] <scriptwarlock> urlin2u: why?
[06:25] <Jimu_> scriptwarlock: looks like something called orca is involved with both accessibility features
[06:25] <urlin2u> scriptwarlock, a nic like that i am surprised your even asking, just ribbing yiu.
[06:25] <urlin2u> you
[06:25] <scriptwarlock> urlin2u: heheh
[06:25] <urlin2u> orca is what I thought to
[06:25] <idarkside> please can someone answer me
[06:25] <scriptwarlock> Jimu_:  ok so where can i find the orca config file so that i can disable via text editor
[06:26] <acerimmer> idarkside: greetings
[06:26] <idarkside> hi
[06:26] <Jimu_> scriptwarlock: i'm googling here, no direct knowledge
[06:26] <idarkside> how can i install sslv2 on ubuntu please
[06:26] <wrektjet> is there a way to end the activity in a terminal without closing it for example I initiated top and want to end it w/o closing the terminal bec its running via a program called guake
[06:26] <scriptwarlock> Jimu_:  phew darn kids
[06:26] <urlin2u> idarkside, sslv2qq shows nothing on google.
[06:26] <urlin2u> empty page
[06:27] <idarkside> sslv2
[06:27] <Jimu_> scriptwarlock: what version of Ubuntu?
[06:27] <scriptwarlock> Jimu_:  10.04
[06:27] <acerimmer> idarkside: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8206546/undefined-symbol-sslv2-method
[06:28] <acerimmer> idarkside: The Ubuntu people build OpenSSL without SSLv2 support because the protocol has known security issues. So that's why you can't find SSLv2_method in their library even though you can find it when you compile the library yourself.
[06:28] <urlin2u> been droped from ubuntu
[06:28] <idarkside> yeah i know
[06:29] <idarkside> but i need it for a mcrypto lib in python
[06:29] <urlin2u> idarkside, you might try ##linux
[06:29] <goddard> almoxarife: permission warning
[06:29] <goddard> allow or deny
[06:29] <almoxarife> goddard: for what ?
[06:29] <Jimu_> scriptwarlock: can you see the login screen besides the virtualkeyboard?
[06:30] <idarkside> ill try ty
[06:30] <scriptwarlock> Jimu_:  yes i can click the username but i can\t type a letter in the password
[06:30] <sqeeKEY> exit
[06:30] <Jimu_> scriptwarlock: can you see the top bar?
[06:31] <mikeliss> Anybody have experience with ndiswrapper? I installed a driver successfully on my laptop as a test, but repeating the process on my desktop is failing.
[06:31] <almoxarife> goddard: for what ? what are we talking about?
[06:31] <scriptwarlock> Jimu_:  theres no top bar on lucid login screen
[06:31] <mikeliss> The driver shows up and is installed correctly when I run ndiswrapper -l, but no wireless networks are listed in Ubuntu's wireless thing in the upper right corner.
[06:32] <mikeliss> Would LOVE some help -- this is my dev machine, and I need to get back to work on it.
[06:32] <Jimu_> oh. darn. this looks promising, though, scriptwarlock : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1316172
[06:33] <almoxarife> mikeliss: did you reboot?
[06:33] <mikeliss> almoxarife: Indeed.
[06:33] <bazhang> mikeliss, whats the chipset
[06:33] <North> While installing the google Chrome, I got the error message that . "Error:Dependency is not satisfiable:libasound2"
[06:33] <mikeliss> bazhang: Not sure...how do I check?
[06:34] <North> what should I do?
[06:34] <bazhang> mikeliss, usb or internal?
[06:34] <almoxarife> mikeliss: would you share /var/log/syslog
[06:34] <mikeliss> bazhang: usb
[06:34] <bazhang> mikeliss, lsusb with the card plugged in should show it
[06:35] <mikeliss> almoxarife: easier said than done, the computer has no internet...
[06:35] <almoxarife> mikeliss: got you
[06:36] <scriptwarlock> Jimu_:  /usr/share/gdm/autostart/LoginWindow sudo rm gnome-mag.desktop -- this one?
[06:36] <mikeliss> bazhang: Hrm...doing lsusb freezes when it tries to get the device's info...
[06:36] <almoxarife> mikeliss: how about the 'lsusb' does it show the wifi usb?
[06:37] <mikeliss> almoxarife, bazhang: it does show the model when I run just lsusb, but not the chipset, so I ran lsusb -vv, and it's now frozen.
[06:37] <Jimu_> scriptwarlock: no, the part 'sudo dpkg -P gnome-orca' and 'sudo dpkg -P gnome-mag' <-- maybe only the second is important
[06:38] <scriptwarlock> Jimu_:  i can't even launch the safe mode and terminal theres no way i can type that
[06:38] <scriptwarlock> Jimu_:  but i was on the live cd now and saw that file
[06:38] <Jimu_> if you press Ctrl-Alt-F1?
[06:39] <scriptwarlock> Jimu_:  yes no terminal
[06:39] <almoxarife> mikeliss: try -v -V
[06:39] <Jimu_> i run Ubuntu 11.10 from VirtualBox, and at login I can type Ctrl-Alt-F1 and get console
[06:39] <scriptwarlock> Jimu_:  good for you but not in my case
[06:39] <mikeliss> almoxarife: lsusb (usbutils) 001
[06:40] <Jimu_> can you use dpkg from a live CD?
[06:40] <scriptwarlock> Jimu_:  well as i have said i have now seen this two files in /usr/share/gdm/autostart/LoginWindow thru live cd
[06:40] <Jimu_> seems like it wouldn't work right
[06:41] <scriptwarlock> Jimu_:  i need to confirm if this is safe to delete the "gnome-mag.desktop" and "orca-screen-reader.desktop"
[06:42] <skorket> I've just installed natty (11.04) and I'm having switching focus to another window with the keyboard shortcut 'alt-tab'.  I have 'focus on mouse-over' and of course 'alt-tab' to switch between windows.  Any suggestions on how to resolve this?
[06:42] <Jimu_> well, you've got a live CD so almost everything is 'safe', but i'd suggest renaming them with an obscure ending rather than deleting them
[06:42] <skorket> sorry, I'm having *trouble* switching focus
[06:42] <Jimu_> like 'orca-screen-reader.desktop.old'
[06:43] <scriptwarlock> Jimu_: ok let me try that one and be back
[06:43] <banseljaj> Hi. I keep getting a java headless exception error whenever i try java apps. what seems to be the problem?
[06:43] <hydrox24> skorket: alt-tab switches to a different program, alt-"~" switches amongst the multiple windows of a single program
[06:43] <samurai2> hi anyone know how to do scheduling running java program in ubuntu? thanks
[06:44] <skorket> hydrox24.  ok.  I would like to switch focus to another program
[06:44] <scriptwarlock> Jimu_: be right back
[06:44] <Jimu_> k
[06:44] <hydrox24> skorket: I was simply wondering if you weren't aware of the 'feature' I am not sure  I am able to help beyond that.
[06:44] <skorket> hydrox24, no, I was not, thank you
[06:44] <hydrox24> skorket: make sure you hold down alt and "tap" the tab key
[06:45] <hydrox24> samurai2: you mean like run a jave app every so often?
[06:45] <samurai2> hydrox24 : yeah like that. :)
[06:45] <skorket> hydrox24, ah, I see, it's just really slow.  I expect it to be too responsive.  If I slow down, it eventually switches.  weird.  Anyway to speed that up?
[06:46] <hydrox24> skorket: your using unity (the default) yes?
[06:46] <skorket> hydrox24, I haven't altered anything so I assume I'm using the default
[06:46] <hydrox24> !cron | samurai2
[06:47] <samurai2> cron? it's that like a apache zookeeper?
[06:47] <hydrox24> skorket: I seitched to using gnome-shell (gnome3) as I found unity a little too slow/laggy. I wouldn't recommend the process of changing Window Managers to newcomers though.
[06:47] <mikeliss> bazhang: almoxarife: I got lsusb -vv to run finally...still don't see the chipset though.
[06:47] <hydrox24> samurai2: not sure what apache zookeeper is but it basically runs a command on a set schedule
[06:48] <skorket> hydrox24, thanks
[06:48] <hydrox24> samurai2: if you can run the java app from the command line then cron is the way to go.
[06:48] <samurai2> ic. thanks :)
[06:49] <hydrox24> mikeliss: try lshw
[06:49] <hydrox24> mikeliss: It's unlikely, but you never know eh ;)
[06:50] <banseljaj> Hi. I keep getting a java headless exception error whenever i try java apps. what seems to be the problem?
[06:51] <mikeliss> hydrox24: No luck.
[06:51] <hydrox24> banseljaj: Since we didn't answer the first time, it means that we don't know. Please come back in atleast an hour when there will be different people in here or try other channels/forums
[06:51] <hydrox24> mikeliss: no sure sorry, what model is it? (Make, Model etc.)
[06:51] <banseljaj> hydrox24, I apologize.
[06:51] <mikeliss> It's a Belkin N600 DB
[06:52] <hydrox24> banseljaj: that's ok :)
[06:52] <mikeliss> hydrox24: ^^
[06:52] <hydrox24> mikeliss: kk, brb
[06:52] <mikeliss> hydrox24: This is probably a better term to search by: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ndiswrapper/index.php?title=Belkin_F9L1101v1
[06:52] <hydrox24> mikeliss: wait... it's a full-on router... not just a USB wifi card?
[06:53] <mikeliss> hydrox24: Those steps worked on my laptop.
[06:53] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1774680 mikeliss this?
[06:53] <hydrox24> so.. the problem is solved?
[06:53] <mikeliss> hydrox24: No, apparently n600 is a rather abused model number at Belkin. That model number is either a router or a USB thing.
[06:54] <mikeliss> hydrox24: No, it worked on my laptop, but not my desktop. The laptop was more or less a testing ground, since it has Internet.
[06:55] <hydrox24> mikeliss: is your laptop on the same version of ubuntu?
[06:55] <mikeliss> bazhang: Yup.
[06:55] <mikeliss> hydrox24: Yup.
[06:55] <hydrox24> does it give you any errors when selecting the driver?
[06:55] <mikeliss> bazhang: Sorry, that yup was meant for hydrox24 - the link you posted isn't right. I have the USB thing, not the router.
[06:56] <mikeliss> hydrox24: None I've found in syslog or when I run ndiswrapper -i in the terminal
[06:56] <hydrox24> mikeliss: it's just silent then doesn't workC?
[06:56] <hydrox24> mikeliss: it's just silent then doesn't work?
[06:57] <mikeliss> hydrox24: Seems as if. I just don't see it popping up in my network thing in the upper right corner like it did on my laptop. Otherwise everything seemed to go smoothly.
[06:57] <hydrox24> mikeliss: OK, so can you see if it is listed under "ifconfig -a"
[06:58] <hydrox24> will be called wlan0/1 or something
[06:58] <mikeliss> hydrox24: No luck there. I have eth0 and lo, but that's it.
[06:58] <hydrox24> hmmm
[06:59] <hydrox24> mikeliss: is it by chance that the laptop is 32bit and the desktop 64?
[07:00] <mikeliss> hydrox24: yeah, actually, that's a good point.
[07:00] <hydrox24> mikeliss: that's you issue right there.
[07:00] <mikeliss> hydrox24: sounds like a hell of a good lead, yeah.
[07:00] <mikeliss> hydrox24: Any ideas how to make it work?
[07:01] <hydrox24> mikeliss: not right now, but someone mentions using it on 64-bit and having lsusb crash ;)
[07:02] <mikeliss> hydrox24: sounds familiar, eh?
[07:02] <A_J> my gui is not loaded correctly, the top navigation bars are missing can someone help me. looking for the restart command of the gui
[07:03] <mikeliss> hydrox24: You have any knowledge of how to find a replacement one that will work? This is already my second one with no luck. I could use a PCI card as well, if they work better?
[07:03] <hydrox24> A_J: try going to terminal (ctrl-alt-1) then log in
[07:03] <hydrox24> A_J: after that type in "sudo service gdm restart"
[07:04] <dejavu> xubuntu kullanan herkese selam
[07:04] <hydrox24> mikeliss: what country do you live in?
[07:04] <mikeliss> hydrox24: USA
[07:04] <hydrox24> dejavu: this is the english channel, sorry. Try #ubuntu-XX replacing XX with you rlanguage code
[07:04] <A_J> nop, it did not work
[07:04] <A_J> started the samw way
[07:05] <A_J> same*
[07:05] <hydrox24> mikeliss: oh, I have one that works out-of-the-box but I can't really mail it to the USA
[07:05] <hydrox24> A_J: so you don't want to restart... you want to *reset*
[07:05] <mikeliss> hydrox24: Well, I'm looking for dual band also...
[07:05] <hydrox24> mikeliss: I'm in Aus ya see.
[07:05] <A_J> yes hydrox24. i'm using xfce, and by default it boots into it like this
[07:05] <A_J> broken
[07:06] <scriptwarlock> Jimu_: u there?
[07:06] <hydrox24> A_J: well, I am happy to help, but the fols over at the xfce channel will be far more knowledgable.
[07:06] <hydrox24> brb
[07:06] <A_J> hydrox24: okie. ty
[07:06] <scriptwarlock> bahzang: u there?
[07:08] <scriptwarlock> anyone knows how to disable or hide the accessibility on login screen in ubuntu 10.04
[07:13] <A_J> How can i get the pc to login into two user accounts at startup and keep one in the background
[07:13] <acerimmer> A_J: login, switch users, login
[07:14] <A_J> acerimmer: yes thats the normal way. any other auto way
[07:14] <A_J> say a autologin script
[07:15] <s1n4> hey, how can I add more desktop ?
[07:16] <acerimmer> s1n4: what?
[07:16] <A_J> s1n4: buy new ones
[07:16] <eigar> Anyone know how to prevent lag on end of files using pulseaudio + mpg123, play, mplayer, etc.
[07:16] <s1n4> bullshit
[07:16] <acerimmer> !language|s1n4
[07:17] <amusselm> So.... I'm noticing some odd behavior from a particular package
[07:17] <s1n4> acerimmer, stfu
[07:17] <acerimmer> !ops|s1n4
[07:18] <almoxarife> eigar: explain 'lag at end'
[07:19] <ritz> stokachu_,  hey
[07:19] <ritz> arges, hey
[07:20] <eigar> almoxarife: i suspect it has something to do with drainage, (or what it is called), based on how these apps use the sound system. Have looked at mplayer a bit and at end of file pulseaudio keep checking for data lasting for up to 1-2 seconds. This creates lag/sielnce at end.
[07:21] <orvar> is there something like rc.local that runs more often?
[07:21] <eigar> if I use the -cache in mpg123 this is solved, but then the file is "cutted of" not whole file is played.
[07:21] <orvar> like when waing from hibernate and suspension
[07:21] <almoxarife> eigar: i was about to say 'cache'
[07:22] <mehrdad> ha anyone noticed that changing dirs doesn
[07:22] <mehrdad> ha anyone noticed that changing dirs doesn't update the title bar? *
[07:23] <eigar> almoxarife: I have a list of (very short) mp3's only one word pr file. If I use cache ie "undervalue" becomes "underval"
[07:23] <mehrdad> the title remains the same as the first dir
[07:23] <almoxarife> eigar: i use the combination you brought up, i cant say i notice the lag
[07:23] <azured> hi! hows everybody doing? :)
[07:23] <ritz> mehrdad, now that you mention this, yes.
[07:24] <mehrdad> i mean, this is basic ui expectations right?
[07:24] <ritz> mehrdad, title in global menu is not updated
[07:24] <eigar> almoxarife: The file is here: http://ssl.gstatic.com/dictionary/static/sounds/de/0/undervalue.mp3
[07:25] <ritz> mehrdad, are we talking about global menu ?
[07:26] <panyan> quit
[07:26] <UidX> hi
[07:26] <azured> terminal challange: "i have no name" when i tried to change my username vim passwd. so whats next? any pointers?
[07:26] <UidX> whoa this channel is crouded indeed
[07:27] <smw> UidX, yep
[07:27] <smw> UidX, this may be one of the most populated channels on freenode
[07:27] <almoxarife> eigar: not sure what you expected me to hear, i hear the word,
[07:29] <eigar> almoxarife: this is perhaps showing it more: http://ssl.gstatic.com/dictionary/static/sounds/de/0/wise.mp3 , When I play it without the cache option it is "wise", when i use cache it becomes "w"
[07:29] <eigar> almoxarife: but, then again, it's perhaps only here
[07:30] <hydrox24> mikeliss: you there still?
[07:33] <almoxarife> eigar: are you giving -cache a value?
[07:34] <hydrox24> almoxarife: Just a note on eigar issue, I had the same problem with VLC for a while, meaning that it is possibly the underlying system?
[07:34] <eigar> almoxarife: yes, were talking about mpg123 right? I have tested with everythign from mpg123 -cache 1 to 1024 to 26000 etc
[07:34] <eigar> err. -b
[07:35] <ritz> eigar, sorry, late to the party. which app is this ? which audio card ? are you using pulseaudio ?
[07:35] <hydrox24> ritz: mpg123 is the app
[07:35] <hydrox24> ritz: probably safe to assume that he's using pulseaudios
[07:35] <Learner> hi, looking for help, is there a way i can install the "galaxy" changing wallpaper from 11.04 to 11.10.? thanks in advance
[07:36] <UidX> can anyone help me with MySQL query?
[07:36] <almoxarife> eigar: sorry, no i am using mplayer for playback,
[07:36] <eigar> ritz: yes, mpg123, mplayer etc. And using pulseaudio,
[07:36] <ritz> eigar, out of curiosity,  does uninstall pulseaudio help her ? do we see any logs from pa in syslog ?
[07:36] <coolstar-ipod> Learner: you can copy it from 11.04's /usr/share/backgrounds
[07:36] <ritz> s/uninstall/uninstalling
[07:36] <ritz> s/her/here
[07:36]  * ritz needs a new keyboard 
[07:36] <UidX> lol
[07:37] <almoxarife> eigar: and not sure if it makes a diff but i dont have pulseaudio installed
[07:37] <tellers> I found on a Wiki entry that what a well-connected young man did was rewritten to make him out as the victim.
[07:37] <UidX> aww i hate mysql
[07:37] <Learner> hmmm.. do you know where can i get the file? i unsitalled tellers 11.04 alrready : (, thank you!
[07:37] <tellers> It has been like this for months on end.
[07:37] <tellers> Talka bout corruption.
[07:37] <UidX> im trying to add a colomn in a table and how do i deal with this row which has auto_increment enabled
[07:37] <eigar> almoxarife: with pure alsa or jack I do not have the problem.
[07:38] <joshwines> UidX: you shouldn't have to include the auto-increment column in the INSERT query
[07:38] <eigar> and the problem is with mplayer as well
[07:38] <ritz> eigar, if I understand this correctly, this is an issue with pa
[07:38] <eigar> ritz: yes
[07:38] <ritz> eigar, which audio card are you using ?
[07:38] <azured> terminal challange: "i have no name" after vim namechange
[07:39] <Ben64> eigar: I always remove pulseaudio on my computers
[07:39] <almoxarife> eigar: one of the perks of moving to plasma-desktop was tossing pulseaudio
[07:39] <eigar> ritz: currently a hdmi thisngy. Have tested with a couple of others to.
[07:39] <ritz> eigar, high cpu load ? did you try http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_PulseAudio_problems#Playback_problems.2C_crackling_or_skipping ?
[07:39] <UidX> joshwines: then do i have to do like "insert into whatevertable values(, something, something)" ?
[07:39] <azured> terminal challange: "i have no name" after vim namechange. cant access super user!
[07:40] <Ben64> !details | azured
[07:40] <ritz> eigar, okay, this is limited to hdmi o/p, and not an issue with internal speaker/jack o/p ?
[07:40] <joshwines> UidX: INSERT INTO xxTable (column1, column2) VALUES (value1, value2)
[07:40] <azured> ubottu: ok
[07:41] <chinosuke> how to find the package name given the config file?
[07:41] <almoxarife> eigar: can mpg bypass pulse for what you are trying to do?
[07:41] <UidX> oh thanks!
[07:41] <UidX> i really appreciate your help :D
[07:41] <iceroot> chinosuke: dpkg -S /path/to/file
[07:41] <chinosuke> thanks :)
[07:42] <hydrox24> mikeliss: you there still?
[07:42] <joshwines> UidX: No problems, there is a #mysql channel where you'd probably get more help too
[07:43] <ritz> eigar, have you tried this http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/CannedResponses ?
[07:43] <eigar> it seems like the problem not lays with the HW but how pulseaudio works. The philosophy of mplayer is very different from the one in pulseaudio. mplayer opens a sink with pulseaudio and deliver part by part to pulseaudio. When the file end mplayer stops delivering data (obviously) but pulseaudio keeps looking for data to see if there's any more coming.
[07:43] <ritz> eigar, try running pa under debug mode
[07:43] <ritz> $ pulseaudio -vvv
[07:44] <azured> i run Mint 11, when i terminal type sudo i get:' sudo: unknown uid: 1000'. this happened now after i as root vimchanged passwd, the name of my regular user
[07:44] <iceroot> !mint | azured
[07:44] <bug> my ubuntu 11.10, run into a java debug issue: localhost: JDWP exit error AGENT_ERROR_TRANSPORT_INIT(197):
[07:44] <bug> any one has solved it?
[07:44] <azured> ok thx
[07:45] <bug> please help, I have fixed my /etc/hosts file to make localhost resolve correctly
[07:45] <eigar> ritz: yes, i have done so. I have alos hacked in the code of pulseqaudio, recompiled and hacked in mplayer code to log what is happening. The problem is partially described above. Pulseaudio philosopy: 1. Open ana audio stream 2. deliver song after song to this stream. Mplayer: 1. Open an audio stream 2. deliver 1 track. 3. close audio stream 4. open new deliver next.
[07:46] <ritz> eigar, interesting. pa does not see the close stream request
[07:47] <eigar> ritz: yes, even after close is sent it keeps checking for data. This kreates the lag/pause/silence between tracks.
[07:47] <ritz> eigar, in your setup, mplayer->pa->alsa ( with pa plugin ) ?
[07:47] <ritz> odd, try a smaller buffer - http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/LatencyControl ?
[07:48] <nc__> Hey guys! I am trying to install Samba4 on Lubuntu 11.10 but I get this error: E: samba4: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 - Does anyone know what it means? :o
[07:48] <eigar> ritz: ok. I'll check some more. Now I have to send an urgent e-mail. For now. Thanks.
[07:48] <ritz> eigar, :)
[07:52] <saucer_eyes> Anyone here that can help me fix my sound? It plays through my headphones, just not speakers.
[07:54] <hydrox24> nc__: That is a rather dull error and is not very verbose, I will check possible problems but it may require significant debugging.
[07:55] <hydrox24> nc__: are you installing it using apt-get?
[07:55] <nc__> hydrox24: Yep
[07:56] <hydrox24> nc__: what command did you use (word for word) to try installing samba?
[07:57] <nc__> hydrox24: sudo apt-get install samba4 - I did try installing it using synaptic first though, then I uninstalled it and tried it via apt-get
[07:57] <hydrox24> nc__: ok, so can you run the command:
[07:58] <hydrox24> "sudo apt-get remove --purge samba"
[07:58] <hydrox24> after doing this, remove the /etc/samba/smb.conf file
[07:59] <nc__> hydrox24: how do i do that in terminal? I need sudo priviledges it seems :o
[07:59] <iToast> Hi
[07:59] <nc__> hi
[07:59] <iToast> Ubuntu 11.10 got linux backwards...
[07:59] <iToast> Linux just works and has high hardware support...
[07:59] <hydrox24> nc__: sorry, you mean removing the .conf file?
[07:59] <iToast> Ubutnu 11.10 has low hardware support and doesn't just work..
[07:59] <nc__> hydrox24: yes exactly
[08:00] <hydrox24> iToast: this is a support channel, please ask your question or move to ubuntu-offtopic
[08:00] <hydrox24> !ot | iToast
[08:00] <iToast> hydrox24, Why is 11.10 so horrible for hardware support?
[08:00] <hydrox24> nc__: "sudo rm /etc/samba/smb.conf"
[08:00] <nc__> hydrox24: thanks, sorry should have told you i'm a noob
[08:00] <hydrox24> iToast: That is not a specific problem, please ask that at ubuntu-offtopic
[08:00] <iToast> 11.4 down have amazing hardware support, 11.10, it hates wyse machines, and amd cpu's... and external hdds..
[08:00] <hydrox24> nc__: that's cool
[08:01] <iToast> hydrox24, It doesn't boot.
[08:01] <iToast> Grub won't autoboot, thats fixable, but when it goes to boot its just a black screen
[08:01] <nc__> hydrox24: done
[08:01] <hydrox24> nc__: Now, try installing samba with "sudo apt-get install samba"
[08:01] <hydrox24> nc__: not samba4
[08:02] <iToast> were's ubuntus server amd64 iso's...
[08:02] <nc__> hydrox24: doing it now :)
[08:03] <iToast> :s
[08:03] <iToast> Does ubuntu server support amd64...
[08:03] <hydrox24> iToast: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download
[08:03] <nc__> Hydrox24: it worked beautifully, thanks alot :)!
[08:03] <hydrox24> iToast: look at the Bittorrent section
[08:03] <iToast> hydrox24, Why are these burried away?
[08:04] <hydrox24> nc__: Wonderful.
[08:04] <iToast> There is more then intel cpus...
[08:04] <hydrox24> iToast: they weren't I just google "ubuntu server amd64"
[08:04] <hydrox24> iToast: it was the top result
[08:04] <hydrox24> *googled*
[08:04] <iToast> hydrox24, Look on the website
[08:05] <iToast> hydrox24, Goto ubuntu.com and find it manually.
[08:06] <nc__> iToast, just click alternative downloads at the download page? :o
[08:06] <nc__> Bye guys, might be back :p thanks again hydrox24
[08:06] <iToast> nc__, http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[08:06] <iToast> ...
[08:06] <hydrox24> iToast: look
[08:07] <iToast> hydrox24, ...?
[08:07] <hydrox24> iToast: ubuntu homepage > Download > ubuntu server (grey bar under orange bar) > ubuntu server for arm (tab above "1")
[08:07] <iToast> hydrox24, Thats a horrible design.
[08:08] <iToast> When a user is looking for a amd64 iso they don't click on ubuntu for arm.
[08:08] <hydrox24> iToast: I did it 20 secs & remember that it is a "technology preview" not meant for the general public
[08:08] <Myrtti> hydrox24: why server?
[08:08] <iToast> hydrox24, What
[08:08] <hydrox24> iToast: It's designed to be hidden away
[08:08] <iToast> hydrox24, amd64...
[08:08] <hydrox24> iToast: *A little*
[08:08] <iToast> Why?
[08:08] <iToast> It runs stable
[08:08] <hydrox24> oh, soz
[08:08] <hydrox24> wrong one
[08:09] <hydrox24> got amd and arm mixed up, lol
[08:09] <hydrox24> will redo for you, but after that this probably needs to be taken to ubuntu-offtopic
[08:09] <iToast> arm is useless :/
[08:09] <pnorman> amd64? ubuntu homepage > download > ubuntu server, select 64 bit version
[08:09] <andyn> hey, we need a "lite" version of ubuntu for raspberry pi :P
[08:09] <pnorman> actually, by default, the 64 bit version is selected
[08:10] <Ben64> ubuntu is too heavy for pi
[08:10] <hydrox24> pnorman: you're right.
[08:10] <iToast> pnorman, Thats the confusion :P
[08:10] <hydrox24> iToast: listen to pnorman :)
[08:10] <iToast> it states nothing about amd64...
[08:10] <pnorman> Why would anything other than 64 bit be selected?
[08:10] <Myrtti> iToast: 64-bit *is* amd64
[08:10] <iToast> A default install of ubuntu will accept 4gb of ram :/
[08:10] <hydrox24> andyn: you could try the alternate install?
[08:10] <hydrox24> iToast: sorry?
[08:10] <andyn> hydrox24: lol :-)
[08:10] <nc__> hydrox24: I just rebooted, when i type samba in the console it says that it's not installed and tells me to use sudo apt-get install samba4
[08:10] <nc__> ?
[08:10] <hydrox24> andyn: yeh, not really lite enough...
[08:11] <pnorman> iToast: You're saying it should say amd64 instead of 64-bit?
[08:11] <iToast> pnorman, It should give a hint :p
[08:11] <iToast> Its rare i see a server based off amd...
[08:11] <hydrox24> nc__: that's annoying...
[08:11] <iToast> ben64 Lies
[08:11] <foxhat25> puyeng
[08:11] <Ben64> iToast: nope
[08:11] <iToast> ben64 windows 8 will run on arm.
[08:11] <iToast> WINDOWS!
[08:11] <Ben64> not on pi
[08:11] <pnorman> I think saying amd64 would confuse people more than 64-bit. most people wouldn't get that intel 64-bit CPUs are also amd64
[08:11] <iToast> Someone will get it to run smoothly.
[08:12] <nc__> hydrox24: Yep, any clues? Should i try installing samba4?
[08:12] <hydrox24> nc__: I am assuming you just want to share files on a windows network, yes?
[08:12] <nc__> hydrox24: actually just between lubuntu and os x lion :o
[08:13] <hydrox24> nc__: I share files over a network with samba and I have never used the actual "samba" command
[08:13] <iToast> Ben64, ubuntu will run on pi.
[08:13] <iToast> Xmbc runs on it i believe
[08:13] <iToast> xbmc*
[08:13] <andyn> xbmc
[08:13] <iToast> andyn, too slow :P
[08:13] <hydrox24> nc__: I thin kthat iToast is right actuall Ben64
[08:14] <andyn> well, if you want a unity-like desktop you could run wmaker on it.
[08:14] <iToast> Ben64, It will run.
[08:14] <iToast> You just gotta optimize it.
[08:14] <Ben64> ubuntu doesn't work currently on it, it might in the future, but it'd have to be cut down significantly
[08:14] <iToast> People got windows 7 on a penitum...
[08:14] <iToast> Vista to run in 54 mb of ram
[08:14] <coolstar-ipod> iToast: Unity is too heavy
[08:14] <hydrox24> nc__: can you try using the inbuilt sharing? unless you need careful control over permissions etc, just right click the folder you want to share, go to the sharing tab and go from there
[08:14] <iToast> coolstar-ipod, who cares? cut it.
[08:15] <coolstar-ipod> It lags on my system with dual core CPU and 3GB RAm
[08:15] <iToast> we don't need unity...
[08:15] <andyn> Ben64, iToast: since it has unified hardware it should not be too hard to trim a very compact kernel and libraries for it.
[08:15] <Ben64> i'd rather use something designed better for the rpi
[08:15] <iToast> The issue is that you guys want unity
[08:15] <iToast> and all the other crap piled on ubuntu
[08:15] <iToast> It just needs a UI for a tv
[08:15] <iToast> Or lcd :p
[08:15] <hydrox24> gtg
[08:15] <iToast> Why not ubuntu for tv...
[08:16] <coolstar-ipod> iToast; I use KDE myself
[08:16] <hydrox24> iToast: you do know there is ubuntutv...
[08:16] <Myrtti> remember kids, #ubuntu-offtopic is that ---> way
[08:16] <andyn> i already have a few great uses for a rack-mounted device that needs an integrated computer
[08:16] <iToast> hydrox24, Thats what i'm talking about
[08:16] <Skew-_^> !kernel | Skew-_^
[08:16] <nc__> hydrox24: there's no sharing tab under preferences or antyhing on my lubuntu :o
[08:17] <iToast> IM thinking about buying a ubuntu tv, but i see no use for a full os on a tv :/
[08:17] <iToast> Unless the hardware can decode streaming 1080p video in real time, its pointless to me
[08:17] <iToast> I wan't to be able to overlay 2 different 1080p videostreams
[08:17] <Skew-_^> !gnome | Skew-_^
[08:17] <Ben64> rpi does 1080p
[08:17] <iToast> Ben64, what doesnt?
[08:17] <Ben64> my phone
[08:18] <iToast> Ben64 wrong!
[08:18] <iToast> You just need a accessory for it
[08:18] <Ben64> no.. pretty sure my phone doesn't do 1080p
[08:18] <iToast> What phone is it
[08:18] <Ben64> droid 3
[08:18] <[deXter]> heh, well my phone has no issues with 1080p.. but my computer has!
[08:18] <[deXter]> (admittedly I'm using open-source drivers..)
[08:18] <iToast> Ben64, it can with a accessory
[08:18] <coolstar-ipod> Skew-^: do bot calls at #ubuntu-bots
[08:18] <Ben64> iToast: nope
[08:19] <iToast> Ben64, they said that the apple a4 might never get hacked
[08:19] <iToast> same to the a5...
[08:19] <coolstar-ipod> I know a phone that doesn't do 1080p
[08:19] <iToast> iPhone?
[08:19] <coolstar-ipod> No
[08:19] <Ben64> thats different. my phone literally cannot decode 1080p. can't even do 720p
[08:19] <iToast> Ben64, With a accessory it can
[08:19] <coolstar-ipod> Windows Mobile..duh
[08:20] <iToast> Renember, you can have a external decoder ;)
[08:20] <Ben64> no, there is no accessory to make it magically decode
[08:20] <iToast> ben64 build one.
[08:20] <TheYsNoi> test
[08:20] <Ben64> you're just silly
[08:20] <iToast> Or use usb hostmode like most phones can do and use a usb one
[08:20] <iToast> You need to write your own drivers...
[08:20] <Skew-_^> iToast, A5 iphone/ ipad2 is hacked (jailbrakeable) now :)
[08:20] <coolstar-ipod> Absinthe
[08:20] <coolstar-ipod> Lil
[08:21] <iToast> Skew-_^, And all the noobs who wanted it for ilegal uses spammed the jailbreak devs :/
[08:21] <coolstar-ipod> *Lol
[08:21] <iToast> Jailbreaking is pathetic now
[08:21] <sec_> Skew-_^: link?
[08:21] <iToast> I asked 10 people what jailbreaking is for, they said to get free apps -_-
[08:21] <hydrox24> iToast: that *IS* sad
[08:21] <iToast> Apperently 99c is too much >_>
[08:21] <coolstar-ipod> iToast: you are talking to someone using a Jailbroken iPod
[08:21] <hydrox24> but we need to move to !ot
[08:21] <sec_> iToast: what it for?
[08:21] <iToast> hydrox24, I wanted to strangle them for that D:
[08:21] <coolstar-ipod> Wanna know why?
[08:21] <iToast> sec_, "free apps"
[08:21] <iToast> :/
[08:21] <hydrox24> iToast: LOLZ
[08:22] <Ben64> i rooted my phone, but not for free apps
[08:22] <iToast> Rooting is having the same effect
[08:22] <coolstar-ipod> Guess why I Jailbroke
[08:22]  * overclucker is a control freak
[08:22] <iToast> Rooting atleast has no centrial source for these ilegal apps :D!
[08:22] <iceroot> !ot
[08:22] <iToast> Most ilegal ones are infected...
[08:22] <Ben64> could get free apps on android without root :P
[08:22] <Skew-_^> LoL, i jailbreak it cuz i want to have access true SSH, and kill prosseses and have a longe ring tone, cuz it sucks to have a iphone that sounds like a Bell Tower
[08:22] <Skew-_^> ;P
[08:22] <hydrox24> I think that they need to make jailbreaker hard, so that only people that are knowledgable can do it
[08:22] <iToast> Skew-_^, I jailbroke my ipod touch to ssh into my servers
[08:22] <hydrox24> meet you guys on ot
[08:23] <hydrox24> I'm on offtopic now, meet me there
[08:23] <coolstar-ipod> Let's go to the offtopic channel. Will we?
[08:24] <sec_> iToast: why?
[08:25] <rick__> hey im new to uuntu ive downloaded firefox aurora and cant figure out how to open the download from firefox download screen
[08:27] <rick__> hello mr potatohead
[08:28] <ServerSage> rick__: Did you download a debian/ubuntu version of aurora?
[08:28] <rick__> i just clicked the download button
[08:29] <ServerSage> Then you'll just get a tar.bz2 file.  Correct?
[08:30] <TheYsNoi> hi...new boot here...
[08:30] <rick__> hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[08:31] <ServerSage> rick__: In order to use it you need to extract it.  When you download it from their site they give you a tar.bz2 file.  You can either double click on that an your GUI will probably extract it for you, leaving you with an executable, or you can extract it on the command line.
[08:32] <rick__> how do extract on cmd line i dont even know where cmd line is
[08:32] <quixotedon> rick__: mind your manner
[08:33] <rick__> what did i do
[08:33] <ServerSage> rick__: If extracting a downloaded file, or using the command line, is outside your realm of knowledge, do you think it's a good idea to run alpha/beta software?  Not trying to be a jerk, just saying.
[08:33] <callaghan> Hi, is there a quick way to find out if a user is running X/L/K/Ubuntu using the command line? I want to use it for a bash script. Thanks
[08:34] <tellers> Looking for genitally mutilated males. Contact me in private to participate in an investigative report. Nationwide publicity a significant possibility.
[08:34] <Smelly> callaghan, use: cat /etc/issue
[08:35] <Smelly> callaghan, Sorry, that doesn;t seem to contain the info you want...
[08:35] <callaghan> Smelly: This says Ubuntu 11.10 \n \l on my Lubuntu system...
[08:36] <callaghan> Smelly: well, I guess there is no easy way apart from looking if lxde or unity is running ;)
[08:36] <rick__> im learning by the way i have more knowledge than you can phatom pal back off im gonnaq make my company pyramidtechnologies bigger than apple and microsoft combined but i doubt you will even know about it so stop trying to prolong the process pal your negativity is undesireable
[08:36] <Smelly> callaghan, How about /etc/lsb-release
[08:36] <ServerSage> rick__: Thats one way to get help.
[08:36] <callaghan> Smelly: same here, only Ubuntu
[08:38] <rick__> so will anyone tell me how to use cmd line
[08:38] <bob___> type commands
[08:38] <ServerSage> I love people that brag about their intelligence but lack simple skills like sentence structure.  :)
[08:38] <rick__> or does everyone feel i should be deprived
[08:38] <ServerSage> rick__: Do you know which *buntu and which GUI you are running?
[08:38] <rick__> no
[08:38] <rick__> 11.0
[08:39] <callaghan> rick__: http://www.amazon.com/Linux-Command-Shell-Scripting-Bible/dp/047025128X
[08:39] <Smelly> callaghan, maybe try "cd /etc; grep -R Lubuntu" to see if there's a file which has the distro name
[08:39] <callaghan> rick__: I bought this and it contains everything I ever needed :)
[08:39] <rick__> no money pal
[08:40] <rick__> 0 dollar budget
[08:40] <ServerSage> rick__: Drop the attitude.  Were here to help.  You need to remember that most of us are actually sitting at jobs right now WHILE trying to help you.
[08:40] <rick__> my company has been brought to its knees and i got trown out on the street
[08:40] <callaghan> rick__: then there's this: http://www.freeos.com/guides/lsst/
[08:41] <T_H_X> same
[08:41] <callaghan> rick__: it's not as complete, but a good start nonetheless
[08:41] <rick__> but it will rise up soon
[08:41] <dotachin> is there any reason to split up large (20GB+) gzip files in pieces?
[08:41] <callaghan> Smelly: whoa, that's taking a long time ^^
[08:41] <rick__> i need some good people
[08:41] <ServerSage> dotachin: Some filesystems only support 2gb files.
[08:41] <rick__> ive got gret ones but thier is so much to do
[08:42] <Smelly> callaghan, It'll finish :)  Maybe add " | less" at the end to be able to scroll trhough the output
[08:42] <ServerSage> dotachin: Plus, moving a single 20gb file is harder than moving 20 1gb files.
[08:42] <dotachin> ServerSage, but any reasons in terms of file integrity?
[08:42] <rick__> can you tell me how to use cmd line
[08:42] <ServerSage> dotachin: Nope.
[08:42] <rick__> where is it located
[08:42] <dotachin> ServerSage, ok, thnx.
[08:42] <Smelly> callaghan, and make sure you are in /etc :)
[08:43] <Jordan_U> !terminal | rick__
[08:45] <tellers> Hello.
[08:45] <LunatyK> Hi
[08:46] <tellers> We are looking for genitally mutilated males. Contact me in private to participate in an investigate report. Nationwide publicity a significant possibility.
[08:46] <ServerSage> Ummm, tellers probably needs to be made to disappear.
[08:46] <alumno> un abrazo
[08:46] <callaghan> Smelly: I used "cd /etc; grep -R Lubuntu | tee ~/output" so it should to the job... no, nothing's in there ^^
[08:47] <callaghan> Smelly: ah well, I guess the user has to select what he is running then. Thank you for your time :)
[08:47] <Smelly> callaghan, Are you sure you're on Lubuntu? :) It should read
[08:47] <Smelly> callaghan, welcome.
[08:47] <tellers> Genitally mutilated is another expression for foreskin-amputated.
[08:48] <tellers> It means circumcised.
[08:48] <Smelly> callaghan, Skip the "It should read"
[08:48] <callaghan> Smelly: yeah, I'm sure, I also have a xubuntu machine where the command is still running
[08:49] <Smelly> callaghan, weird that it doesn't show up in issue at least... Well, good luck
[08:50] <LunatyK> Smelly is it smart to load Xubuntu at the same time as Ubuntu
[08:50] <callaghan> Smelly: it shows up in /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/desktop.conf I can check if this path exists.
[08:51] <krised> Hi. I have a script which sets up various things. But each command line requires sudo (such as making changes to .profile) how do i tell a batchscript that all commands in the script must run as such ? so i dont have to execute one line at a time
[08:51] <Smelly> LunatyK, Is that a rethorical uestion?
[08:51] <Skew-_^> krised, run it as sudo?
[08:51] <LunatyK> no
[08:51] <JadedJacob> evening ubuntu
[08:51] <Skew-_^> krised, run the script as sudo
[08:51] <rick__> ok how do accsess ubuntu cmd line
[08:51] <LunatyK> Cause i added packages for Xfce and Xubuntu
[08:52] <rick__> please
[08:52] <krised> Skew -_^if i run it as sudo it wont run every command as sudo. just the first line
[08:52] <Skew-_^> krised, dont use sudo in script?
[08:52] <Smelly> LunatyK, I don;t know what you mean by "load". You mean have installed side by side as in "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" and "apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"?
[08:52] <ServerSage> rick__: Did you not read what the good bot told you earlier?
[08:52] <krised> Skew-_^ if i start every line with sudo it will ask for my password between each line
[08:52] <ServerSage> !terminal | rick__
[08:52] <rick__> yup i cant remember
[08:52] <LunatyK> No
[08:53] <ServerSage> rick__: Seriously?
[08:53] <rick__> where do i click first
[08:53] <LunatyK> I went thru Synaptic Package Manager and downloaded the packages that way
[08:53] <Skew-_^> krised, dont have SUDO inside the script just run the script from terminal whit sudo infront have u tryed it?
[08:53] <LunatyK> I was trying to get Slackware Packages
[08:53] <LunatyK> x.x
[08:53] <JadedJacob> I'm after some software for ubuntu that allows to you click a button on a application make it resize 50% of the width of my LCD screen.
[08:53] <rick__> dont belittle me please i need help
[08:54] <JadedJacob> either Left or Right
[08:54] <krised> Skew-_^Hmm ill try. thanks. My problem here is that i need to repack a installed ubuntu back into a working distro ISO file.. i cant find any program that works.. remastersys gives errors when using that (when i boot the iso made)
[08:54] <ServerSage> rick__: You've been given help.  Other than driving to your house and opening it for you what more would you like?
[08:55] <Smelly> LunatyK, So you installed Ubuntu from CD or so and then you installed Xubuntu (packages) through synaptics? I'm not sure if that's advisable. It might be possible, but I'd personaly rather go with either one or the other.
[08:55] <rick__> why is it no one i talkto want to help you all act like im gonna kill you when i get my mind ad powerback
[08:55] <LunatyK> Well
[08:55] <LunatyK> It lets me choose
[08:55] <rick__> tell me where to clik please
[08:55] <ServerSage> rick__: Read the help!  It tells you EXACTLY WHAT TO CLICK.
[08:55] <LunatyK> If i want Gnome or Xubuntu
[08:55] <rick__> it says applications
[08:55] <rick__> thier is nothing under apps
[08:56] <garaman> rick__: press the "Windows" key and type "terminal" then hit Enter
[08:56] <ServerSage> rick__: click the Ubuntu logo and start typing terminal.
[08:56] <rick__> windows key??
[08:57] <garaman> rick__: between Ctrl and Alt
[08:57] <Smelly> LunatyK, What lets you choose?
[08:57] <garaman> rick__: also works to press Alt+F2, type "gnome-terminal", then hit Enter
[08:57] <rick__> ok im in thank you
[08:57] <rick__> now how do i run file
[08:58] <JadedJacob> i think i'll just post on the ubuntuforums instead.
[08:58] <ServerSage> rick__: Do you know where you downloaded the firefox file?
[08:58] <LunatyK> The Login Screen shows Session and it lets me run either Ubuntu or XUbuntu
[08:58] <rick__> from firefox aurora website
[08:58] <ServerSage> rick__: Yes, but where did you save it to?
[08:59] <rick__> its located in downloads section of firefox i cant make anysense of these ubuntu directories
[08:59] <garaman> rick__: in terminal type "cd Downloads", then "ls"
[09:00] <garaman> rick__: what filenames do you see?
[09:00] <rick__> no such file or directory
[09:01] <garaman> rick__: type "pwd", what do you see?
[09:01] <LunatyK> How do you go root?
[09:01] <rick__> pwd
[09:01] <goddard> the -15 kernel isn't working
[09:01] <goddard> how can i debug?
[09:01] <Smelly> LunatyK, Ah ok. So they're both installed already. Well if it work, it works. (For the time being)
[09:01] <garaman> rick__: in terminal, type "pwd"
[09:01] <LunatyK> Yes Smelly and it hasnt been messing up tho
[09:01] <madigan> sudo /load .xchat2/budus.so
[09:02] <Smelly> LunatyK, with "sudo <command>" you execute the command as root
[09:02] <rick__> fff
[09:02] <rick__> home rick
[09:03] <rick__> home rick is what i see
[09:03] <ServerSage> rick__: Try running "ls", do you see a Downloads listed?
[09:03] <garaman> rick__: in terminal, type "ls -1F".  you should see list of dirs, one of which should be named "Downloads"
[09:03] <madigan> XD i can't load the plug XDDC! i try sudo beacuse i'm desperate
[09:03] <madigan> XD
[09:04] <rick__> it says deskto videos doc ex desktop pic tempp downloads music public
[09:04] <ServerSage> rick__: Then type "cd downloads"
[09:04] <rick__> no such file or directory
[09:05] <norbert79> rick__: Just one thing to mention: Linux is Case-sensitive... If you See Downloads, it's not the same, like 'downloads'
[09:05] <ServerSage> rick__: You have to match the case.  So if it's Downloads you need to do "cd Downloads"
[09:05] <garaman> rick__: indeed, try "cd Downloads" again, exactly as written
[09:05] <garaman> rick__: with capital "D"
[09:05] <[deXter]> unless of course, you turn off case sensitivity in bash, like I do ;)
[09:06] <rick__> it says downloads $
[09:06] <norbert79> [deXter]: Which could just screw up your filesystem, just saying ;-)
[09:06] <garaman> [deXter]: I "set completion-ignore-case on", which is handy while less dangerous
[09:06] <[deXter]> garaman, yeah, that's what I use actually
[09:07] <LunatyK> Smelly could i script Ubuntu to look like SlackWare?
[09:07] <norbert79> rick__: I would assume ls -lF would be the next step...
[09:08] <norbert79> rick__: so you can see what's listed there
[09:08] <aLeSD|> hi all
[09:08] <rick__> yep no fire fox thou
[09:08] <auronandace> LunatyK: look like slackware? you are aware that slackware uses vanilla packages?
[09:08] <aLeSD|> is it normal that /sbin in not in my path ?
[09:09] <LunatyK> I am
[09:09] <aLeSD|> $PATH
[09:09] <LunatyK> Thats what im used to auronandace
[09:09] <rick__> lf says cmd not found
[09:09] <TheYsNoi> hi aLeSD
[09:09] <iceroot> aLeSD|: /sbin is in PATH on default ubuntu
[09:09] <ServerSage> rick__: Try running "ls -l"
[09:09] <auronandace> LunatyK: then that means slackware doesn't have a look of it's own, what you want is the default look of the packages
[09:10] <LunatyK> Yes that
[09:10] <aLeSD|> iceroot: I just switched from kubuntu 2 ubuntu
[09:10] <rick__> type ls -l
[09:10] <rick__> ????
[09:10] <ServerSage> rick__: Yes, in the terminal type in "ls -l" without the quotes.
[09:10] <iceroot> aLeSD|: /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[09:10] <aLeSD|> I simply run sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop
[09:11] <LunatyK> Could i do that auronandace
[09:11] <iceroot> aLeSD|: to get the
[09:11] <rick__> not there
[09:11] <auronandace> LunatyK: no idea
[09:11] <iceroot> aLeSD|: to get the "real" ubuntu its sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:11] <LunatyK> Hmm
[09:11] <ServerSage> rick__: You sure you downloaded it?  :)
[09:11] <rick__> yup
[09:11] <LunatyK> Ima try something
[09:11] <aLeSD|> ah
[09:11] <LunatyK> after Synaptic gets done
[09:11] <norbert79> rick__: You would like to check your queries/personal messages...
[09:11] <auronandace> LunatyK: what has ubuntu changed that you don't like the look of?
[09:11] <aLeSD|> iceroot, ubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.
[09:11] <rick__> how
[09:12] <iceroot> aLeSD|: then you have everything you need
[09:12] <almoxarife> rick__: wanna try this with the gui folder viewer god gave ubuntu?
[09:12] <LunatyK> Actually auronandace i am used to Slackware
[09:12] <norbert79> rick__: Like clicking the window, I think top, since you have at least 1 personal message in your IRC client
[09:12] <LunatyK> And seeing something that doesnt look like it
[09:12] <LunatyK> Seems wrong
[09:12] <norbert79> rick__: I think right to the channel window-tab
[09:12] <auronandace> LunatyK: you haven't answered my question, whats different that you don't like?
[09:13] <aLeSD|> iceroot, my system want't start gdm ... it tries with kdm all the time .. The prob is that I removed kdm
[09:13] <LunatyK> The whole thing
[09:13] <iceroot> aLeSD|: ubuntu is not using gdm
[09:13] <auronandace> LunatyK: such as?
[09:13] <iceroot> aLeSD|: its using lightdm
[09:13] <LunatyK> the themes the wallpapes the menu
[09:13] <iceroot> aLeSD|: depending on your version
[09:14] <rick__> ok
[09:14] <auronandace> LunatyK: so you don't like unity? is that it? more of a kde fan?
[09:14] <iceroot> aLeSD|: what version are you using?
[09:14] <Monkeypaws> Hello.  I have a webserver running ubuntu/apache and an IP camera.  I'd like to have 1 connection between the ubuntu server and the IP camera.  Then, however many users connect to the ubuntu/apache server to view the stream.   I want to avoid anyone connecting directly to the IP camera in order to view the stream.  Is this do-able? thanks
[09:14] <aLeSD|> iceroot, 13.04
[09:14] <iceroot> aLeSD|: not possible
[09:14] <aLeSD|> Who tells ? Hainstein ?
[09:14] <iceroot> aLeSD|: there is no 13.04
[09:14] <iceroot> aLeSD|: output of "cat /etc/issue"
[09:15] <aLeSD|> 11.10
[09:15] <aLeSD|> I configured lightdm
[09:15] <iceroot> aLeSD|: then its lightdm instead of gdm
[09:15] <auronandace> !kubuntu | LunatyK
[09:16] <aLeSD|> now the problem is the $PATH
[09:16] <aLeSD|> iceroot, is it configured in .bashrc ?
[09:19] <iceroot> aLeSD|: /etc/bash_completion
[09:19]  * dfcnvt hit the sack, "G'night"
[09:19] <almoxarife> Monkeypaws: how does apache talk to the camera? network? usb?
[09:21] <Monkeypaws> almoxarife - the video stream is available over the network, at http://192.168.1.75/mjpeg.cgi
[09:21] <aLeSD|> iceroot, thanks
[09:25] <LunatyK> installing Kubuntu
[09:25] <varikonniemi> hmm, i have been zipping 60 gigs folder to a .zip archive with ubuntus compress option. I left it overnight and it is only halfway therE?!
[09:26] <jatt> why do you want to zip 60 gigs! rotfl
[09:26] <varikonniemi> so i can archive it handy in one file
[09:26] <JadedJacob> Varazir: What compression setting did you use? What is your CPU? How much RAM do you have?
[09:27] <LunatyK> auronandace is that smart
[09:27] <jatt> better those 60 gigs are text files
[09:27] <varikonniemi> dunno about compression, it does not let me choose
[09:27] <jatt> if not
[09:27] <varikonniemi> c2d 3.1ghz, 4ggs ram
[09:27] <jatt> you are wasting your time
[09:27] <varikonniemi> cpu usage 10%
[09:28] <JadedJacob> Yeah like what jatt: Unless they are text files or BMP's(haha) you're wasting your time
[09:28] <JadedJacob> *like what jatt said i mean
[09:28] <varikonniemi> the point is not to compress them but to just have one file to archive
[09:28] <jatt> then don't compress them
[09:28] <jatt> archive them
[09:28] <iceroot> varikonniemi: tar
[09:28] <jatt> with tar for example
[09:28] <varikonniemi> but there is clearly something wrong here
[09:28] <varikonniemi> i read tar is really bad for this, since it has no index
[09:28] <DJ_Eternal> There
[09:28] <jatt> yeah PEBKAC
[09:29] <haylo> i think zipping is good but something that big takes to long to zip varikonniemi
[09:29] <DJ_Eternal> >.<
[09:29] <JadedJacob> When you say there is something wrong...Do you mean you think your harddrive is on the way out?
[09:29] <haylo> plus unless the data has a compressible pattern it doesnt get that much smaller
[09:29] <varikonniemi> yeah but what is it doing this all time when cpu usage is at 5-10% for the process
[09:30] <iceroot> varikonniemi: what is the value of %wa
[09:30] <varikonniemi> memory usage 50M
[09:30] <DJ_Eternal> Is it smart to install Kubuntu with Ubuntu and Xubuntu
[09:30] <iceroot> varikonniemi: on top
[09:30] <varikonniemi> iceroot, ?
[09:30] <haylo> will take ten percent cpu to do an operationg like this
[09:30] <iceroot> varikonniemi: you are talking about cpu usage, what is "top" showing for the value %wa
[09:30] <varikonniemi> where can i find %wa
[09:31] <rick__> ok im back
[09:31] <jatt> you should do the experiment how it takes to uncompress the 60GB. and then compress them again
[09:31] <rick__> hello
[09:31] <iceroot> varikonniemi: open a terminal and type in "top"
[09:32] <iceroot> varikonniemi: at the top of that screen there is %wa
[09:32] <rick__> you there
[09:32] <varikonniemi> 40-60%
[09:32] <iceroot> varikonniemi: that is the reason why it is working so long
[09:33] <iceroot> varikonniemi: %wa = waiting time of the cou for your hdd
[09:33] <auronandace> DJ_Eternal: i don't like unity either (xfce is my choice)
[09:33] <varikonniemi> iceroot, ok :)
[09:33] <iceroot> varikonniemi: so your cpu is waiting 40-60% of the time because your hdd is not delivering the data fast enough
[09:33] <DJ_Eternal> xfce is good
[09:33] <DJ_Eternal> but i want slackware back
[09:33] <rick__> hello
[09:33] <iceroot> DJ_Eternal: #slackware
[09:33] <DJ_Eternal> but my disk drive isnt working
[09:33] <quiescens> i was going to say
[09:34] <quiescens> 40-60% is more likely because of drive failure
[09:34] <DJ_Eternal> iceroot i know alot about it
[09:34] <quiescens> than actual io saturation
[09:34] <DJ_Eternal> c.c
[09:34] <iceroot> quiescens: no
[09:34] <iceroot> quiescens: that is a normal value and has nothing to do with drive failure
[09:34] <varikonniemi> hmm, i have process python as zombie. Is that bad
[09:34] <goddard> xfce yo dawg dat is oogleee
[09:35] <iceroot> varikonniemi: you are using "terminator"?
[09:35] <varikonniemi> iceroot, no
[09:35] <iceroot> varikonniemi: ok
[09:35] <bc81> hello.  i'm trying to get a daap server up and running on maverick, mt-daapd is not working, is there a better more up-to-date method?
[09:36] <goddard> iceroot: you should change your name to fireroot then it will sounds like your gonna can your sys admin rather then shoot him
[09:36] <iceroot> goddard: :)
[09:36] <DJ_Eternal> :/
[09:37] <bc81> i've tried tangerine also, but my ipod touch 2g can't connect to it (using Simple DAAP client
[09:37] <bc81> the touch can see the share, but not connect to them
[09:37] <DJ_Eternal> auronandace i just hate unity period
[09:38] <reisio> DJ_Eternal: so don't use it
[09:38] <goddard> DJ_Eternal: don't hate participate
[09:38] <DJ_Eternal> reisio if i had a diskdrive i wouldnt be
[09:38] <DJ_Eternal> :/
[09:38] <varikonniemi> on windows i have once rarred a 150 gigs archive, and it had no problems, so it clearly is something fishy going on with archive roller
[09:38] <iceroot> DJ_Eternal: you have a support-question?
[09:38] <DJ_Eternal> Im on a laptop
[09:39] <DJ_Eternal> iceroot well noone answered my question :/
[09:39] <DJ_Eternal> Is it smart to install Kubuntu with Ubuntu and Xubuntu
[09:39] <reisio> varikonniemi: what is?
[09:39] <iceroot> DJ_Eternal: why not?
[09:39] <ePlus`> hey all
[09:39] <goddard> yo
[09:39] <reisio> ePlus`: hi
[09:40] <ePlus`> where do i set "ifconfig eh0 up" to be up at boot
[09:40] <Skew-_^> ACER S3-951/ULV i5-2467M/NLED13.3WXGAG/Intel HD/4GB/SSD 256GB/BGN/BT 4.0/Lithium Polymer/1.3M HD/W7HP-64  VS. ASUS UX31E 13.3'' HD+ Glare i7-2677M HD3000 4GB DDR3 256GB SSD Cam BT USB 3.0 4 cell Bag W7HP alu HDMI ???
[09:40] <iceroot> DJ_Eternal: of course you have then all applications from all of them
[09:40] <auronandace> DJ_Eternal: if you have enough space you can
[09:40] <varikonniemi> reisio, <varikonniemi> hmm, i have been zipping 60 gigs folder to a .zip archive with ubuntus compress option. I left it overnight and it is only halfway therE?!
[09:40] <DJ_Eternal> idk if i do or not
[09:40] <jatt> buy a more powerful computer
[09:40] <jatt> then it will be faster
[09:40] <iceroot> DJ_Eternal: maybe 6-8gb for all of them
[09:41] <prashant_123456> wanna lock system volume at a certain low end using ubuntu 11.10 gnome ?????
[09:41] <Skew-_^> jatt, who me?
[09:41] <jatt> no the 60GB guy
[09:41] <Skew-_^> aha i see
[09:41] <Skew-_^> :)
[09:41] <DJ_Eternal> how do i find out
[09:42] <goddard> DJ_Eternal: live disc?
[09:42] <DJ_Eternal> nope
[09:42] <reisio> varikonniemi: 60 is a lot, wouldn't compress it unless it's for really long term
[09:42] <DJ_Eternal> Ubuntu is installed
[09:42] <goddard> DJ_Eternal: haha ok
[09:42] <DJ_Eternal> Xubuntu is installed
[09:43] <DJ_Eternal> Now im working on Kubuntu
[09:43] <glosoli> Hey folks,  I have one problem. Sometimes I can't restart my computer if some programs are running in the background, ubuntu just hangs forever on the splashscreen for reboot, and does nothing, just CPU Fan Noisy becomes
[09:43] <auronandace> DJ_Eternal: if you want slackware then why did you install xubuntu?
[09:43] <DJ_Eternal> Cause i couldn't get my Slackware to update to 13.37
[09:44] <varikonniemi> i restarted my computer and python process is still zombie. Is this normal?
[09:44] <aBound> Slackware is not an easy to use distribution.
[09:44] <iceroot> DJ_Eternal: what is your question? to be honest we dont care about slackware
[09:44] <goddard> DJ_Eternal: so you just install lots of OS's on your computer for fun?
[09:44] <reisio> varikonniemi: sure it's the same #?
[09:45] <auronandace> DJ_Eternal: so you couldn't reinstall slackware instead of upgrade?
[09:45] <DJ_Eternal> Im just trying to make sure of something but nvm
[09:45] <varikonniemi> wait, i have one python as #1867 and one as #1850
[09:45] <DJ_Eternal> auronandace my diskdrive is out and i have to have the disk drive working to do so
[09:45] <jatt> zombie processes are not normal
[09:46] <varikonniemi> i just resintalled my os yesterday :(
[09:46] <auronandace> DJ_Eternal: so how did you install xubuntu? by usb? if so why can't you install slackware that way?
[09:46] <reisio> they happen
[09:47] <DJ_Eternal> Slackware requires 6 cds
[09:47] <DJ_Eternal> :/
[09:47] <bob___> DJ_Eternal: not true
[09:47] <DJ_Eternal> And i dont have a usb big enough
[09:47] <iceroot> DJ_Eternal: again, we dont care about slackware, go to #slackware if you want to discuss that distro
[09:47] <llutz_> DJ_Eternal: to make it short: you don't have any clue about wat you're doing, you just decided to troll around here.
[09:47] <glosoli> Hey folks,  I have one problem. Sometimes I can't restart my computer if some programs are running in the background, ubuntu just hangs forever on the splashscreen for reboot, and does nothing, just CPU Fan Noisy becomes
[09:47] <norbert79> DJ_Eternal: I would recommend #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:48] <jatt> what is slackware?
[09:48] <llutz_> jatt: wikipedia tells you
[09:48] <bob___> glosoli: hit esc at that splash screen and it hsould show you the shutdown messages and you can see where it's hanging
[09:49] <rick__> hello
[09:49] <reisio> hi
[09:49] <rick__> im back
[09:49] <tomek_> hi
[09:49] <rick__> can we get back to bussiness
[09:50] <aBound> DJ_Eternal, Doesn't seem like Slackware requires 6 CDs there's a package with the DVD for everything and 6 ISOs which means you don't need all of them.
[09:50] <tomek_> who knows how to move window x - [] from left to right ?
[09:50] <aBound> Some of the ISOs are source packages.
[09:50] <iceroot> and all are off-topic
[09:50] <aBound> iceroot, Indeed.
[09:50] <reisio> tomek_: called "decorations"
[09:51] <bc81> tomek_: i think it's gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout --type string "menu:minimize,maximize,close"
[09:51] <aBound> DJ_Eternal, Best to head to the slackware channel for help on the Slackware distro.
[09:52] <bc81> tomek_: of course, you can rearrange the string to your liking
[09:53] <yannick_> yannick
[09:55] <pfifo> hello everyone :)
[09:55] <bc81> so, does anyone have success in running a daap server on their 'buntu?  trying to connect the ipod touch 2g (old, but good ;)
[09:55] <bc81> hi pfifo
[09:56] <rick__> hi
[09:56] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:57] <bc81> hi
[09:57] <rick__> can anyone help me run files on ubuntu
[09:57] <bendras> ato
[09:57] <tomek_> bc81 : no gui tools
[09:57] <tomek_> ?
[09:57] <bc81> lol rick__  what kind of "files"?
[09:57] <bendras> where am i?
[09:57] <pfifo> rick__, to execute a file simple add ./ to the fron
[09:57] <rick__> im on my day with ubuntu
[09:57] <pfifo> ex ./myscript.sh
[09:58] <dns53-laptop> nick dns53
[09:58] <rick__> well i cant find the file in cmd line
[09:58] <bendras> linux sucks!
[09:58] <bc81> tomek_: open a terminal and paste that command, only rearrange the string
[09:58] <rick__> i like linux
[09:58] <rick__> windows sucks
[09:58] <reisio> :p
[09:58] <bc81> tomek, so you want them reversed: menu:close,maximize,minimize
[09:59] <_Ethan_> hi
[09:59] <reisio> hi
[09:59] <bc81> hi
[09:59] <_Ethan_> when manually creating the partitions, /home should be the biggest one in size?
[09:59] <pfifo> hi
[09:59] <cristian_c>  I'm using Oneiric Ocelot 11.10, I purchased an asus WL-330gE. The device shields the connection to the router, unfortunately I have to first establish a direct connection to the router, and then the computer automatically snaps to a repeater. But if the PC tries to connect to the router via the repeater, it fails
[10:00] <Tiven_> _Ethan_ : no need for that
[10:00] <Tiven_> it's all about what you need
[10:00] <reisio> _Ethan_: but yes, in general
[10:00] <bc81> _Ethan_: generally, yes.
[10:00] <Tiven_> yea
[10:00] <Tiven_> because you usually use the most space for saving in there
[10:01] <cristian_c> the network manager tries to connect several times, but it fails to connect. So I updated the firmware to the latest version, from version 2.0.1.9 to 2.0.2.0, but unfortunately the problem persists
[10:01] <reisio> if you put everything on one partition, you don't have to consider this
[10:01] <cristian_c> What can I do to solve the problem?
[10:01] <_Ethan_> so /home is supposed to be the "folder" where i put data
[10:01] <glosoli> bob___: Thanks for answer :) Might be what I need
[10:01] <pfifo> cristian_c, you might want to ask in ##hardware this is ubuntu support
[10:02] <_Ethan_> the thing is , arent they just folders but partitions?
[10:02] <_Ethan_> i can understand to have a swap partition
[10:02] <auronandace> _Ethan_: i use a seperate storage partition for my files
[10:02] <reisio> _Ethan_: home is for non-OS data
[10:02] <pfifo> _Ethan_, you dont have to make /home a partition at all
[10:03] <reisio> indeed
[10:03] <_Ethan_> and in fact i have one partition for data in my windows xp, because i wanted it
[10:03] <Tiven_> _Ethan_ : basically home is all that you save. i used to use Home on my headless server to save all services (webservers, gameservers, etc)
[10:03] <_Ethan_> pfifo but is it the default mode ubuntu uses when installing isnt it ?
[10:03] <cristian_c> pfifo, is this not a problem that affects the operating system?
[10:04] <llutz_> _Ethan_: then just dont put /home on extra partition, mount your data-filesystem later to i.e. /home/you/data
[10:04] <pfifo> _Ethan_, because it makes reinstalling easier, you wont lose all your settings if you have a seperate /home
[10:04] <reisio> you shouldn't _have_ to reinstall, though, if course
[10:04] <_Ethan_> ok
[10:05] <Tiven_> personally i prefer knowing that if anything at all happens, i know that im safe just by getting this one partition
[10:05] <_Ethan_> thanks a lot for your help
[10:05] <_Ethan_> cross fingers for me
[10:05] <_Ethan_> :P
[10:05] <Tiven_> good luck bro
[10:05] <_Ethan_> because i actually have two primary partitions, windows xp and data
[10:05] <reisio> to be safe you must backup
[10:05] <llutz_> Tiven_: that's what backups are for
[10:06] <reisio> regardless of partition scheme
[10:06] <_Ethan_> next i´ll do ext 4 / as primary
[10:06] <Tiven_> i always backup, i always use partitions too :P
[10:06] <_Ethan_> swap and /home
[10:06] <_Ethan_> (/home as logical)
[10:06] <llutz_> _Ethan_: logical/primary makes no difference
[10:07] <UidX> is there any program which analyzes a jar file and draws an entire class map?
[10:07] <auronandace> _Ethan_: i keep all my linux partitions as logical (allows primaries to be used for other OS's)
[10:07] <reisio> #java?
[10:07] <UidX> oh is there #java?
[10:07] <Tiven_> yea
[10:07] <UidX> thanks im new to this server so i'm not really used to it
[10:07] <dns53> UidX there are, but ask somewhere else, it has been a while since i did java programming
[10:07] <reisio> I don't multi-boot, seems a waste of time
[10:07] <_Ethan_> llutz yes, but i´ll have 3 primary partitions so i´d prefer to kept the one left for a future possibility
[10:08] <_Ethan_> auronandace exactly
[10:08] <reisio> UidX: /msg alis list *foo*
[10:08] <llutz_> _Ethan_: just put all non-win stuff on logical
[10:08] <reisio> FFR
[10:08] <_Ethan_> "/" needs to be primary isnt it ?
[10:08] <Tiven_> haha
[10:08] <llutz_> _Ethan_: no
[10:08] <pfifo> auronandace, how many OS's do you need
[10:08] <_Ethan_> ups
[10:08] <auronandace> pfifo: not a question of need
[10:08] <llutz_> _Ethan_: logical/primary makes no difference (for most non-windows OS)
[10:09] <_Ethan_> thought the OS partition needs to be primary
[10:09] <auronandace> pfifo: i like to keep my options open, and its fun to try something new
[10:09] <UidX> thanks
[10:09] <reisio> not that a desktop install needs more than for partitions
[10:09] <auronandace> _Ethan_: no, linux and haiku can reside entirely in logical partitions
[10:09] <reisio> or even two
[10:09] <pfifo> reisio, I require 6
[10:09] <_Ethan_> auronandace then you meant that for linux you always use logicals to reserve primary partitions for windows for example ?
[10:10] <reisio> pfifo: you specialize areas with file systems?
[10:10] <auronandace> _Ethan_: yes, and bsd and openindiana
[10:10] <pfifo> reisio, what?
[10:10] <grymek> hi, i have downloaded my windows 7 from msdnaa ( so its oryginal ) but i havent cdrom on my computer ( im writting from second a laptop ), on windows i could copy iso disk to pendrive and make him a disk boot partytion, how to do the same with a cd or iso file on ubuntu ?
[10:10] <reisio> guess not
[10:11] <grymek> i have ubuntn 10.04
[10:11] <_Ethan_> auronandace ok, thanks for the advice
[10:11] <reisio> grymek: 1 min
[10:11] <norbert79> grymek: use unetbootin for such, or use the Ubuntu's main website for the pendrive-installer-creator
[10:11] <auronandace> _Ethan_: i also keep my storage partition as a logical too
[10:11] <cristian_c> an another question:
[10:11] <_Ethan_> just a last question, would you recommend defragmentation ?
[10:11] <_Ethan_> prior all this process?
[10:12] <norbert79> _Ethan_: There are no defragmentation tools for Linux, since EXT3-4 doesn't need such... It's done automatically
[10:12] <_Ethan_> of my data and windows xp partition
[10:12] <cristian_c> I'm using lubuntu 11.10
[10:12] <pfifo> auronandace, it sounds like you make one giant extended and then all logicals
[10:12] <auronandace> pfifo: indeed :)
[10:12] <reisio> grymek: _2nd_ answer here: http://serverfault.com/questions/6714/how-to-make-windows-7-usb-flash-install-media-from-linux
[10:12] <cristian_c> but I can not see the volume icon on the panel
[10:13] <bc81> _Ethan_: yes, good idea to check the filesystem and defrag prior to the operation (but not mandatory)
[10:13] <reisio> grymek: the one with 23 ups
[10:13] <bullgard4> [Banshee 2.2.1] Is there no keyboard shortcut to set the playback volume? http://library.gnome.org/users/banshee/stable/keyboardshortcuts.html.en
[10:13] <cristian_c> I tried to add it, but it still is not displayed
[10:14] <_Ethan_> ok
[10:14] <cristian_c> How can I solve this problem?
[10:14] <_Ethan_> i´ll go ahead then
[10:14] <_Ethan_> back in 2-3 hours , hopefully with good news :D
[10:14] <bc81> bullgard4: have you tried the Multimedia Keys extension?
[10:15] <grymek> reisio: ok
[10:15] <grymek> norbert79: ok i ll try
[10:15] <bc81> bullgard4: oh nevermind i see you want volume
[10:18] <bc81> bullgard4: you can use command:  banshee --set-volume=20
[10:18] <bc81> etc
[10:19] <zeefah04> hello
[10:19] <zeefah04> exit
[10:20] <shine_> hi, can someone help me on how to remove an custom schema from openldap(that uses cn=config)...i've olready remove all the entries that uses the attributes and classes of this schema, what should i do next? i know that these thread is not specific for ubuntu but no one helped me on the openldap chat
[10:20] <bc81> bullgard4: or you can bind the command: banshee --set-volume=+5   or   banshee --set-volume=-5  to a shortcut key (compiz has this ability)
[10:20] <Fudge> anyone know why grub-pc 1.98 in lucid detects my osx but natty and precise doesnt?
[10:26] <gokul> hello, i am getting --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/824916/  when i connect my new usb drive, i am not able to access it too, any suggestions ?
[10:27] <dns53> gokul bad power on the usb plug? tried plugging in the laptop? tried another plug?
[10:27] <bc81> gokul: try opening it in the gparted, if it's new it needs to be formatted possibly
[10:29] <gokul> dns53, bc81 it's not the plugging issue, tried it in different systems, it's not working in ubuntu and arch but works in windows. Also did a quick format in windows, but still not working in ubuntu
[10:30] <callaghan> gokul: Does it appear in the Disk Utility?
[10:31] <auronandace> gokul: try gparted like bc81 suggests
[10:31] <bc81> gokul, and you tried opening in gparted?
[10:31] <dns53> gokul ok so the device exists?   run sudo fdisk -l   to list disks and partitions
[10:33] <gokul> dns53, bc81 will try gparted now
[10:36] <gokul> dns53, bc81, auronandace  fdisk -l actually kinda hangs, have started gparted but it was scanning for devises for a long time and doesn't show anything
[10:37] <aLeSD|> hi all
[10:37] <_rahmat_> hi aLesD|
[10:37] <gokul>  i am getting "Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 1950463"  in syslog
[10:38] <aLeSD|> I am using twinview ... is it possible to set differents backgrounds between the 2 monitors .. or extend a sigle image to both ?
[10:38] <dns53> gokul so your disk might be on the way out, is this a hard disk in an enclosure or a usb drive?
[10:38] <ikonia> aLeSD|: you should be able to span an image across both as one virtual monitor, but not use two different ones
[10:39] <gokul> dns53, it's a usb drive, and i just bought it.
[10:39] <dns53> gokul does it have any data on it?
[10:39] <gokul> dns53, none, just plugged in for the first time
[10:39] <llutz_> gokul: take it back to the shop
[10:40] <norbert79> aLeSD|: Using two different images for your desktop is dependant on what Window handler you are using. Unity, the default Window manager cannot handle more, than one image, while KDE has/had the support for such for example.
[10:40] <DJango_Novice> hi
[10:40] <auronandace> gokul: what brand?
[10:41] <red> Anyone here that is familiar with rsync?
[10:41] <ikonia> red: yes
[10:41] <red> I'm having problems understanding the correct syntax, even tho im looking at examples etc
[10:41] <red> heres my command:
[10:42] <red> rsync -avz --exclude=/var/www/aac7/sites/ office@172.20.20.40:/var/www/aac7
[10:42] <red> I run it at my dev server
[10:42] <red> to copy files from live server, excluding the sites folder
[10:42] <red> but still the incremental file list that starts to roll before the sync is showing every file under the sites as well, so I hit ctrl-c
[10:42] <dregin> Ahoy! Is there any plan to allow a user to remote desktop to a machine without the screen at the PC's desk unlocking???? In know I can use NoMachine or whatever else, but I need to be able to work on the same code I had on my screen when I left work... having to set it all up again is a pain.
[10:43] <red> the .40 is the live environment
[10:43] <gokul> auronandace, my company bought a whole bunch of customized usb drives for employees. No brand name on it. :)
[10:43] <red> should the exclude be relative to the aac7 path instead?
[10:44] <dns53> red just --exclude=sites
[10:44] <auronandace> gokul: customised usb drives? sounds fishy
[10:44] <william_> haha
[10:44] <ikonia> red: it should be releative to where you are
[10:44] <red> thanks, dns53
[10:44] <red> works
[10:44] <RawProduce> Hi, does anyone know how can I install Kivio version 2 on 11.10?
[10:44] <dns53> red in my script i keep a log file in the rsync directory and i just have --exclude=log
[10:45] <RawProduce> it's not in the repo by the looks of it
[10:45] <red> i see
[10:45] <red> can i do sites,sites_old
[10:45] <red> or similar for the exclude?
[10:45] <aLeSD|> norbert79, ok ... but is it possible to expand a single image in the 2 monitor. Use the 2 monitor as a single one.
[10:45] <bc81> pattern could be sites*  (correct?)
[10:45] <dns53> red multiple exclude lines
[10:46] <shine__> can enyone help me on openldap problem ?
[10:46] <red> --exclude=sites --exclude=sites_old ?
[10:46] <norbert79> aLeSD|: I have never tried such, so I can't really help further, sorry
[10:46] <RawProduce> yet this page - http://ubuntuguide.dyndns.info/index.php/Ubuntu:Oneiric#Kivio_.28Diagram_editor.29 says that kivio is in fact included in 11.10...
[10:46] <red> ill test wildcard
[10:46] <gokul> auronandace, they needed the company logo
[10:46] <aLeSD|> norbert79, however thanks
[10:47] <bc81> red: you could also match from a file: --exclude-from=FILE
[10:47] <auronandace> gokul: if you can find out who made the usb drives then you can avoid them (sounds like some outsourced cheap manufacturer)
[10:48] <red> wildcard worked, however i noticed 1 more folder i need to exclude, (tmp)
[10:48] <gokul> yeah
[10:48] <red> bc81: this is a one time thingy so i dont think i really wanna build some file for it
[10:48] <red> but if its the only way, then i guess i have to
[10:48] <quiescens> red: you should really be able to do --exclude more than once
[10:48] <red> kk, ill test again
[10:49] <norbert79> RawProduce: I think you might been fooled, since if you check the page you quoted, it shows, that it's not related to Canonical. (dyndns.info..?). I would suggest for checking kivio you should use: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[10:49] <bc81> or could they be comma separated?
[10:49] <XxPACHAxX> ciao
[10:49] <XxPACHAxX> !list
[10:49] <norbert79> RawProduce: I did a lookup though, and it seems, that kivio is not listed in the packages, but let me do a deeper search
[10:49]  * dns53 goes to check the rsync man page
[10:49] <RawProduce> norbert79: appreciate the help :)
[10:50] <RawProduce> norbert79: it's a bit weird since installing koffice provided icons and a mimetype for kivio
[10:50] <norbert79> RawProduce: I understand, but if it's missing it could be because of different reason
[10:51] <norbert79> RawProduce: http://www.koffice.org/kivio/ - I think, that kivio is not even ready, according to the official webpage. That's why it's not available yet
[10:51] <RawProduce> norbert79: fair enough, guess I'll use something else then, thanks again for the help
[10:52] <reCAPTCHA> Hi! I can't seem to find the drivers for my soundcard: Creative Labs SB1040 PCI Express Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio
[10:52] <norbert79> RawProduce: Sure, you are all welcome!
[10:52] <reCAPTCHA> Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[10:52] <reCAPTCHA> I know there probably is no official supported driver version, but surely there's a community OS one.
[10:53] <RawProduce> reCAPTCHA: this might help - http://digg.com/newsbar/topnews/Tutorial_Set_up_X_Fi_in_Ubuntu
[10:53] <reCAPTCHA> RawProduce: I'll give it a go, thanks much.
[10:54] <RawProduce> reCAPTCHA: you're welcome
[10:54] <norbert79> RawProduce: I might be reading the date wrong, but isn't that tutorial a bit old?
[10:54] <norbert79> RawProduce: it might be, that the support is already there, just activated different
[10:55] <gokul> hello, some more logs on the usb drive issue http://paste.ubuntu.com/824937/ does any body know why i am getting "udevd[313]: worker [8239] failed while handling '/devices/pc****"
[10:56] <glosoli> Anyone here uses DIA and get problems of getting CPU Usage extremely high ? or does someone knows any alternative  ?
[10:56] <RawProduce> norbert79: yeah, it might be a bit out of date, but generally compiling a driver is about the same between versions
[10:57] <sanoobep> hi...any one there?
[10:57] <norbert79> gokul: Revieweing your past conversation it looks like a faulty USB drive for me as first look. You might want to try it under other OS-es too, but I wouldn't assume more luck.
[10:57] <glosoli> sanoobep: Yes
[10:57] <sanoobep> i wish to about thread safetuy + ubutu
[10:57] <gokul> norbert79, it works in windows and mac
[10:57] <sanoobep> thread safety + ubuntu
[10:57] <Daniel_WMDE> hi all. some windows are not accessible via the application switcher (alt-tab) it seems. some vanisch "sometimes", but the netbeans ide seems to always be missing
[10:57] <Daniel_WMDE> any ideas why?
[10:57] <gokul> but not in ubutnu and arch
[10:58] <norbert79> gokul: So no issues under other OS-es then... This limits the issues. Let me go into query
[10:58] <Daniel_WMDE> unity seems to have trouble with java based apps anyway... freemind doesn't stick in the launcher, for instance, but at least i can alt-tab to it
[10:58] <Daniel_WMDE> so...
[10:58] <Daniel_WMDE> any idea how to fix this?
[10:58] <bc81> gokul, in windows can you format it to fat 32?
[10:59] <sanoobep> hi ...let me know about thread safety + linux
[10:59] <gokul> bc81, did a quick format in windows but still not working in linux
[10:59] <reCAPTCHA> RawProduce: Unfortunately, it does not seem like the creative site offers these drivers in any format but .exe
[10:59] <Daniel_WMDE> sanoobep: that question seems awfully broad...
[11:00] <norbert79> reCAPTCHA: Well, I found it different :)
[11:00] <bc81> gokul: not quick format, but format to fat32 filesystem
[11:00] <reCAPTCHA> norbert79: you did? Please inform!
[11:00] <norbert79> reCAPTCHA: What card do you have again?
[11:00] <norbert79> reCAPTCHA: X-Fi?
[11:01] <reCAPTCHA> norbert79: X-Fi Xtreme Audio, yeah.
[11:01] <sanoobep> which package will support for thread safety on ubuntu
[11:01] <norbert79> sanoobep: Define "thread safety"
[11:02] <norbert79> sanoobep: http://support.creative.com/Products/ProductDetails.aspx?catID=1&CatName=Sound+Blaster&subCatID=231&subCatName=MIDI+Keyboards&prodID=17927&prodName=Sound+Blaster+X-Fi+Titanium&bTopTwenty=1&VARSET=prodfaq:PRODFAQ_17927,VARSET=CategoryID:1 ?
[11:02] <sanoobep> thread safety is php package
[11:02] <norbert79> oops
[11:02] <norbert79> reCAPTCHA: http://support.creative.com/Products/ProductDetails.aspx?catID=1&CatName=Sound+Blaster&subCatID=231&subCatName=MIDI+Keyboards&prodID=17927&prodName=Sound+Blaster+X-Fi+Titanium&bTopTwenty=1&VARSET=prodfaq:PRODFAQ_17927,VARSET=CategoryID:1
[11:03] <norbert79> reCAPTCHA: Scroll down, select Linux, and press SUbmit, if it's this card
[11:03] <reCAPTCHA> norbert79: http://support.creative.com/downloads/welcome.aspx?nLanguageLocale=1033&nPage=1
[11:03] <reCAPTCHA> This is the card.
[11:04] <norbert79> reCAPTCHA: :) So the same... Ok: http://support.creative.com/downloads/download.aspx?nDownloadId=10792
[11:04] <sanoobep> how to enable thread safety on info.php file?
[11:04] <andyn> !php
[11:04] <reCAPTCHA> norbert79: the drivers will work for both cards then?
[11:04] <emiliano_> #join release
[11:05] <norbert79> reCAPTCHA: I can't help you further, I don't own a Sound Blaster X-Fi, this is how far I can go
[11:05] <reCAPTCHA> norbert79: thanks much.. hopefully it works.
[11:05] <norbert79> reCAPTCHA: You are welcome
[11:06] <sanoobep> how to enable thread safety on info.php file? which package will install ?
[11:08] <norbert79> sanoobep: Until someone will get back to you with the answer, I would suggest you try to join the ##php channel too for further help
[11:08] <sanoobep> any one know about thread safety
[11:08] <sanoobep> ?
[11:09] <nils_> how can I change my console keymap permanently? I tried dpkg-reconfigure console-setup (I think it was console-data once?) but it doesn't seem to let me select the keyboard mapping
[11:10] <sanoobep> unable to login ##php chanel
[11:11] <LjL> !register > sanoobep
[11:11] <dns53> nils_ i can't remember exactly but you may need to change the debconf priority
[11:12] <nils_> dns53: so it just skips the question? That makes sense, thanks.
[11:12] <dns53> nils_ i believe it does, it might be the wrong package as well
[11:14] <Cafe> windows start-up direct a blue-screen after install ubuntu, anyone?
[11:14] <nils_> dns53: yeah it's the wrong package
[11:15] <SonWighFac9> goood morning people
[11:18] <ubuntuaddicted> morning
[11:19] <BenSprz> hi all
[11:20] <BenSprz> i have a dualboot vista/ubuntu 10.04  the ubuntu does not find my wireless network I guess its a driver issue?
[11:20] <BenSprz> anybody any suggestions I'd appreciate it, thanks
[11:20] <lordb_> i need help Generating key in Ubuntu and obtaining fingerprint
[11:20] <lordb_> i ve used gpg
[11:22] <BenSprz> can anyone please suggest (in linux beginner terms...) what i have to do to get ubuntu 10.04 to find my wirelessnetwork
[11:22] <dns53> lordb_ do you want to use seahorse (gui) or the command line?
[11:22] <BenSprz> i can also (probably) access the windows vista partition and find the driver there?
[11:23] <dns53> take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[11:24] <BenSprz> dns53 thanks, will do now
[11:26] <sanoobep> i wish to about register free node?
[11:27] <varikonniemi> well, well. whoever said a zombie process is not normal here, thanks :/ i reinstalled ubuntu and it was there immediately adter booting from setup
[11:27] <varikonniemi> then i went and looked at my server and my laptop, they both also have it
[11:27] <varikonniemi> so i guess it is normal after all?
[11:31] <ubuntuaddicted> BenSprz, first we need to determine what wifi chipset your wifi card hasd
[11:32] <BenSprz> ubuntuaddicted: it a bcm4311 802.11b/g WLAN
[11:32] <BenSprz> ubuntuaddicted: its a broadcom and it shows in lshw -C network
[11:33] <BenSprz> ubuntuaddicted: should I give you the output of lshw?
[11:36] <RaeCarruth> for some reason opera browser does not allow me to 'open folder', how do i enable this? or point opera to nautilus?
[11:37] <jasox> Hi guys, I was wondering what font size (small/normal) do you use in ubuntu on 24" monitor(16:10) ?
[11:38] <RaeCarruth> for some reason opera browser does not allow me to 'open folder', how do i enable this? or point opera to nautilus?
[11:39] <ubuntuaddicted> BenSprz, i would just folllow a Blog on how to get that chipset working. I found this one but will admit I am not familiar with that chipset. http://nfolamp.wordpress.com/2011/10/15/ubuntu-11-10-getting-wireless-bcm4311-working/
[11:40] <OrderPicker> what happened to lib-apache2-mod-ssl in ubuntu lucid?
[11:40] <ubuntuaddicted> jasox, i wish I had that large of a monitor. lol I just use the default font since 5.04
[11:41] <BenSprz> ubuntuaddicted: thanks I will try, Im trying to use the ubuntu manual at the moment but have little knowledge of commandline
[11:41] <jasox> ubuntuaddicted, :D I set small fonts, large fonts looks too large :/
[11:41] <RaeCarruth> ???
[11:42] <BenSprz> it seems the b43 driver is there somewhere, but i dont know how to load it/use it/turn it on correctly
[11:42] <ubuntuaddicted> BenSprz, everything I have learned over the 6 years I have used Ubuntu has been at ubuntuforums.org and on IRC
[11:42] <OrderPicker> when tryning to install it with apt-get, apt-get replies: Couldn't find package libapache-mod-ssl
[11:43] <Guest14154> i have a query to configure dovecot can some one help me to sort out the error here is the mail.warn log Feb  1 16:38:05 dovecot: child 4531 (login) killed with signal 9
[11:43] <ubuntuaddicted> BenSprz, WIFI drivers have been a sore spot in ubuntu for a long time. They add drivers to the linux kernel when they feel they are working BUT sometimes bugs get introduced which then make that driver which is built into the kernel not work. Sometimes you have to blacklist a module from loading and use a different driver (module)
[11:44] <ubuntuaddicted> OrderPicker, try to use sudo aptitude search apach2
[11:44] <BenSprz> ubuntuaddicted: the blog you suggested didnt help me... sorry
[11:45] <OrderPicker> ubuntuaddicted: No reply....
[11:45] <RaeCarruth> for some reason opera browser does not allow me to 'open folder', how do i enable this? or point opera to nautilus?
[11:45] <ubuntuaddicted> BenSprz, and which version of Ubuntu are you using
[11:45] <OrderPicker> ubuntuaddicted: No results
[11:45] <BenSprz> 10.04 lts
[11:45] <Guest14154> the same error is there in mail.err mail.log etc.
[11:45] <ubuntuaddicted> OrderPicker, it may be built into another module. have you googled it?
[11:45] <wookienz> guy how do i disbale iommu, is it bios or kernel paramter?
[11:45] <OrderPicker> ubuntuaddicted: yep
[11:45] <ubuntuaddicted> BenSprz, that's what I use still. one second, let me google it
[11:47] <Kuloto> #lurkmore
[11:48] <theadmin> wookienz: You need to boot with "iommu=off" on your kernel line, or recompile the kernel without IOMMU support at all.
[11:48] <wookienz> ok thanks
[11:48] <ubuntuaddicted> OrderPicker, you checked here: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/httpd.html ?
[11:48] <BenSprz> ubuntuaddicted: lshw says under configuration driver=b43-pci-bridge latency 0
[11:49] <BenSprz> and below it says *-network DISABLED
[11:49] <BenSprz> why?
[11:50] <ubuntuaddicted> BenSprz, I am sorry I can't help you specifically as I don't use wireless. :(  Check here: http://nfolamp.wordpress.com/2010/05/02/ubuntu-10-04-and-broadcom-bcm43xx-wireless/
[11:50] <ubuntuaddicted> you need to enable networking
[11:50] <ubuntuaddicted> try this command sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[11:50] <OrderPicker> ubuntuaddicted: No results
[11:51] <OrderPicker> ubuntuaddicted: THANX!
[11:51] <OrderPicker> ubuntuaddicted: i am on my way!
[11:51] <ubuntuaddicted> OrderPicker, thanx for what?
[11:51] <ubuntuaddicted> OrderPicker, you use which version of Ubuntu
[11:51] <OrderPicker> ubuntuaddicted: lucid...
[11:56] <Tom22> Hello.
[11:56] <bullgard4> gvfs-info differentiates »display name«, »edit name« and »name«. What are the differences?
[11:56] <Tom22> Can someone help me get my audio working?
[11:56] <bullgard4> !sound | Tom22
[11:58] <michaela> hello i have been wondering if it was possible to install linux without the inter net
[11:59] <michaela> and if its not than we should make a big ruckus to make it possible
[11:59] <norbert79> michaela: I think you are referring to alternative downloads. There is a Ubuntu DVD version, you might want to take a look at this: http://swtsrv.informatik.uni-mannheim.de/pub/linux/distributions/ubuntu-dvd-release/
[12:00] <BenSprz> ubuntuaddict: i tried installing the bcmwl package from the live cd /poos/restricted/b/bcmwl but it said dkms dependency bad or somthing like that
[12:00] <theadmin> michaela: It is possible to install the standard Ubuntu CDs without being online, yes
[12:01] <michaela> theadmin how do you do that
[12:01] <theadmin> michaela: Just... boot and install like you normally do.
[12:01] <Tom22> Hi, I went through the troubleshoot on getting audio working, and still none of them apply to me. Can someone help?
[12:02] <michaela> thats mot much of an explanation theadmin
[12:02] <theadmin> michaela: ...Ubuntu installer doesn't require you to be online so you pretty much do all the same things as normally, what's not clear?
[12:03] <gogasan> Hello. I have a problem: my mouse driver sometimes don't work: mouse don't move, buttons are not working. So is it possible to reload drivers without reboot? Googled, nothing.
[12:03] <michaela> no when i install ubuntu it requires me to be online
[12:04] <theadmin> michaela: It doesn't, it suggests that for best installation experience, but you can proceed even if there's no connection present.
[12:04] <Tom22> Hello. My sound doesnt work. Tried 2 sets of speakers, soundcard detected, but unable to regulate volume in alsamixer. Have read troubleshoot guide, no help.
[12:06] <michaela> are you sure because if thats the case than i feel like an idiot
[12:06] <BenSprz> what does FATAL: Module wl not found mean after running the sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb wl command mean?
[12:06] <BenSprz> michaela: dont worry, so do I...
[12:07] <michaela> cool thanks ill try it
[12:07] <Tom22> sudo aptitude --purge reinstall linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils linux-image-`uname -r` linux-ubuntu-modules-`uname -r` libasound2
[12:07] <Tom22> Sorry about that,
[12:07] <Tom22> didn't mean to paste that
[12:07] <natrixnatrix89> does anyone know where does gnome-control-center store the list of available wallpapers?
[12:07] <natrixnatrix89> I mean I want to add an xml with wallpaper changer to the available wallpaper list, but the gui version doesn't allow other files than pictures.. how do I add an xml to the list?
[12:08] <ndlovu> the ubiquity "Find Files" shortcut does not seem to be indexing all my files - only recently opened ones. Is this intentional, or can I set it to index everything?
[12:08] <bullgard4> [Banshee 2.2.1] Is there no keyboard shortcut to set the playback volume? http://library.gnome.org/users/banshee/stable/keyboardshortcuts.html.en
[12:08] <Tom22> I've been having some problems with my sound. Alsamixer wont let me change the volume from MM (mute), but soundcard IS detected
[12:09] <natrixnatrix89> does anyone know how to add an xml to the wallpaper list in ubuntu 11.10?
[12:10] <bullgard4> Tom22: What happens if you click on »MM«?
[12:10] <jschoolcraft> tzdata is configured to EST on my server, but doesn't appear like cron is respecting TimeZone.  It's running 5 hours early (UTC for me, as I'm EST).  Am I missing something?
[12:11] <gogasan> No ideas about reload mouse driver without reboot?...
[12:11] <Tom22> bullgard4 Nothing, as alsamixer is cmd based. But I'm able to change the MM to 00 by pressing "M" on my keyboard. But unable to raise the volume from 00
[12:12] <Tom22> bullgard4 http://i40.tinypic.com/blteg.png
[12:14] <norbert79> Tom22: You are trying to change the setting of the headphone SENSE settings. That option won't go further, than muted/off and 00/ON
[12:14] <norbert79> Tom22: That's not a volume
[12:15] <Tom22> norbert76 so why isn't alsamixer showing my volume levels?
[12:15] <norbert79> Tom22: Might be because of incomplete support or other issues, but what I see is, that you only have three options listed. Press F5 and check all options
[12:16] <norbert79> if those are all, then you have not a full support of your soundcard, or there is another issue present
[12:16] <bullgard4> Tom22: If you are unable to raise the volume from 00 then it is a bug, I believe. Try again after  restarting the computer. If this still happens, I'd google if someone having your computer type else experienced the same mis-behaviour.. Or file a bug report in Launchpad.
[12:17] <norbert79> bullgard4: Sorry, but this is just a very generic, and wrong approach. it's not a bug, he only can just access limited features supported by the soundcard.
[12:17] <Tom22> bullgard4 & norbert79 thank you for your help. I'm going to get something to eat, will restart when I get back., F5 brought up some more options, but it doesn't seem like I'm able to raise any of the levels.
[12:18] <norbert79> Tom22: You might want to check F6, since I don't know if you have more, than 1 soundcard in your system
[12:18] <norbert79> Tom22: The current is an ESS ES1978
[12:19] <bullgard4> norbert79: "incomplete support" is a bug.
[12:19] <norbert79> bullgard4: Again, not true. If the kernel lacks a support of a specific hardware, it's not related to the Ubuntu distribution itself
[12:20] <norbert79> bullgard4: But as we have limited information it's hard to tell at this stage
[12:20] <norbert79> bullgard4: So I would avoid categorising the current situation as 'bug'
[12:23] <dddbmt> I've created a bash script. Is there any way to make a shortcut to it either in the unity sidebar or the unity topbar?
[12:24] <dddbmt> 11.10
[12:24] <lechienkitu> http://danstonchat.com/7272.html xD the first sentance "If you take a music for me, what's it ?"
[12:24] <lechienkitu> oh no
[12:24] <lechienkitu> if you would to say me what do you feel for me on music, what's it ?
[12:25] <lechienkitu> joke times ... done
[12:26] <BenSprz> I'm not making any progress on my wireless despite reading up in lots of forums, I get errors galore and no success, can somebody help me please
[12:28] <BenSprz> i use ubuntu 10.04, the wireless card is a bm43
[12:28] <reisio> bm43 always fun
[12:29] <BenSprz> reisio: any suggestions, please?
[12:29] <reisio> for what? Just got here
[12:29] <BenSprz> reisio: hello then
[12:29] <BenSprz> any suggestions on making the bm43 work
[12:29] <crizzy> doesn't 11.04/11.10 include working oss driver for bm43?
[12:30] <crizzy> i'd remember so
[12:30] <zgr> is it possible to determine dpi value in 11.10?
[12:30] <BenSprz> crizzy: you're saying? get a newer distro?
[12:30] <crizzy> yes
[12:31] <BenSprz> i kind of liked the lts idea with 10.04 though for i am new to this topic (as in linux...)
[12:31] <crizzy> sure
[12:31] <crizzy> but it also means it's already 2 years old
[12:31] <bullgard4> [Banshee 2.2.1] Is there no keyboard shortcut to set the playback volume? http://library.gnome.org/users/banshee/stable/keyboardshortcuts.html.en
[12:31] <crizzy> with 2 years old drivers
[12:31] <reisio> think bm43 is still a formware party
[12:31] <reisio> see help.ubuntu.com
[12:32] <BenSprz> crizzy/reisio: the laptop is 5 years old, shouldnt a 2 year old distro have the proper drivers?
[12:32] <crizzy> open driver for these crappy chipsets didn't exist 2 years ago
[12:32] <reisio> it's a legal matter, IIRC
[12:32] <crizzy> so no
[12:32] <BenSprz> and: i checked help.ubuntu.com, i read lots, tried lots of commands, but to no avail
[12:33] <crizzy> BenSprz: and yes, i seemed to remember somewhat right: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/broadcom-releasing-fully-open-source-driver-wifi-driver/
[12:33] <crizzy> (this dated 5 months after LTS release)
[12:34] <crizzy> so 11.10 should have this for sure
[12:34] <crizzy> and besides, you can upgrade to 12.04 soonish pretty painlessly, it will be LTS too
[12:34] <BenSprz> crizzy: i did mean no offense, just trying to switch to linux and learn something while im at it
[12:34] <eQuiNoX__> hey guys i have an ejabberd server setup with two client IMs connected to it - im unable to transfer files from one to another. I get a "service unavailable" - doesnt ejabberd support file sending?
[12:35] <crizzy> BenSprz: well, yes, broadcom chipsets were one of the last 'painful' common hardware cases with linux, but just pick latest 11.10 rel and you should be ok
[12:35] <theadmin> eQuiNoX__: Probably need to enable it somewhere, would make no sense to support that by default
[12:35] <eQuiNoX__> theadmin: i see
[12:35] <eQuiNoX__> will look into the config, thanks theadmin !
[12:36] <AxonetBE> One day there was on smashing magazine a twitter post with  a website where people are telling witch tools they use for developing, somebody knows this website, because I cannot find it back.
[12:36] <theadmin> eQuiNoX__: I beleive ejabberd has a web interface for configuration (or am I confusing it with something?)
[12:36] <crizzy> BenSprz: or, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx this might help. i'd still just go for newer distro and forget old problems
[12:36] <jschoolcraft> crontab isn't respecting configured timezone, anything I can check to figure out why (some setting I may have missed?)
[12:37] <dns53> jschoolcraft have you restarted your pc since changing time zone?
[12:37] <jschoolcraft> it's my server, but no, i haven't.
[12:37] <theadmin> jschoolcraft: Add TZ=your_timezone to the crontab before the entries.
[12:37] <theadmin> Or yes, reboot lol
[12:37] <eQuiNoX__> theadmin: you're right, ejabberd's the one
[12:37] <dns53> jschoolcraft it checks it on boot
[12:38] <jschoolcraft> dns53: okay, will try that then.
[12:39] <crizzy> BenSprz: and if you're trying to 'convert' to linux, i'd recommend not to :) install dualboot, investigate linux, find out how to do things in linux, which ways to do things work best, etc. but don't try to forcefully 'convert'
[12:39] <reisio> dunno, I've had more success with the totally dive in approach
[12:39] <eQuiNoX__> hmm but its mostly stuff about ACL, access rules, virtual hosts, nodes, stats etc in the admin panel, theadmin
[12:39] <Lachezar> Hello people. What's an alternative to Ubuntu, that does not have Unity, Zeitgeist and is Keyborad-friendly?
[12:39] <theadmin> eQuiNoX__: Hm, well, I dunno, sorry.
[12:40] <eQuiNoX__> lemme just take a quick look at the logs
[12:40] <crizzy> BenSprz: usually this only leads to eventually hitting some thing that works differently than what you're used to in windows / what you don't get working / and then you just get frurstrated
[12:40] <eQuiNoX__> theadmin: np np, thanks for your help!
[12:40] <reisio> Lachezar: Ubuntu
[12:40] <theadmin> Lachezar: Err... We only support Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu and Lubuntu here, we don't really discuss "alternatives"
[12:40] <reisio> Lachezar: you can forego Unity if you choose
[12:40] <Lachezar> Well... I was thiunking of Lubuntu/Xubuntu.
[12:41] <theadmin> Lachezar: Xubuntu is similar to Gnome2.
[12:41] <theadmin> Lachezar: Well, XFCE is.
[12:41] <Lachezar> But I am having tremendous problems with configuration.
[12:41] <theadmin> LXDE feels something like Windows 95 on the other hand
[12:41] <crizzy> unity is way more keyboard friendly than gnome2 ever was, though
[12:41] <Lachezar> Can't configure «Windows» button to open the start menu. (for instance).
[12:41] <Lachezar> crizzy: Bulls*it.
[12:41] <theadmin> Lachezar: In XFCE? Just bind the Super key to xfce4-menu-popup
[12:41] <theadmin> Lachezar: In LXDE, I dunno.
[12:42] <BenSprz> crizzy: if i were to get frustrated easily I'd not be in this forum anymore. I'm trying to do exactly that: learning how to do things in linux
[12:42] <auronandace> !language | Lachezar
[12:43] <BenSprz> all the drivers and packages and such are installed, i can even "see" my network and configure it, but i cant connect
[12:46] <shiryak> русский
[12:46] <holms> ахуенно
[12:46] <norbert79> !russian | shiryak
[12:47] <holms> hi people. ubuntu lts in here. please help me to migrate on python 2.7. python --version shows 2.7.2 , how to force modwsgi to use newest version
[12:47] <holms> ubottu: trololo nice
[12:48]  * Lachezar takes language note seriously and apollogises for reacting hastely.
[12:48] <norbert79> Lachezar: Please check your personal messages...
[12:48] <holms> any support in here? =/
[12:48] <norbert79> !ask | holms
[12:48] <norbert79> and yes :)
[12:48] <norbert79> Btw regarding python: Well, Lucid came with 2.72
[12:48] <holms> well i ASKED already
[12:49] <holms> 13:47 < holms> hi people. ubuntu lts in here. please help me to migrate on python 2.7. python --version shows 2.7.2 , how to force modwsgi to use newest version
[12:49] <holms> norbert79: the one which is in production server - is not
[12:49] <holms> and i added some repo to src.list
[12:49] <holms> now installed linked, works
[12:49] <holms> but how to force mod_Wsgi to use it
[12:50] <holms> reinstalled mod_wsgi , didn't help
[12:50] <norbert79> holms: Is mod_Wsgi part of...?
[12:50] <norbert79> holms: Is this a part of the Ubuntu system?
[12:50] <holms> well it's apart of apt-get (crappy packed) repo
[12:50] <holms> which is done everything in another way how author created
[12:50] <Lachezar> crizzy: The fact that I can not reconfigure keyboard shortcuts multiplies «Unity Keyboard Friendliness Coefficient» with ZERO.
[12:51] <holms> so you ubuntu responsible for this
[12:51] <dr_willis> how vague
[12:51] <Lachezar> I am still unable to assing Win+T to terminal. In my language Win+T is bound to Кошче, which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever :-/
[12:51] <norbert79> holms: There is no 'we ubuntu'... If you want to get help, well first a detailed infor on the package and the ways you did would be helpful, and second, the dpkg/apt-cache can also tell you the author of the package too
[12:51] <dr_willis> the update-alternatived system defines what versions are the defaults i belive
[12:52] <dr_willis> there nay be some guides on askubuntu.com on usung different versions of python
[12:53] <Lachezar> mod_wsgi seems to require (re)compilation against the appropriate runtime version.
[12:53] <norbert79> holms: Anyway, to make things clear, you are talking about holms: libapache2-mod-wsgi and that package is depending on libpython2.6 (>= 2.6), python (>= 2.6), python (<< 2.7)
[12:53] <holms> yea i saw that =/
[12:53] <holms> so it's the only way?
[12:53] <holms> then I need probably to install in apache mods-enable by my self too
[12:53] <holms> ehrr
[12:54] <norbert79> holms: Since python 2.6* is supported for Lucid, I am still riddled how you managed getting 2.7.2
[12:54] <holms> poython 2.6 - IS DEAD
[12:54] <Lachezar> holms: Well... I can see a few different python*wsgi packages, that refer to different python versions.
[12:54] <norbert79> holms: So I would assume you used a PPA for getting a later python, but you tried to use the internal module, which only supports 2.6
[12:54] <holms> norbert79: so i've already installed python 2.7
[12:55] <holms> root@li270-125:/# python --version
[12:55] <holms> Python 2.7.2
[12:55] <holms> done
[12:55] <norbert79> holms: Sure, now you only need to get the module compiled for 2.7.2 too
[12:55] <holms> but wsgi doesn't see it
[12:55] <norbert79> since Lucid supports for wsgi only python 2.6*
[12:56] <holms> http://pastebin.com/6hm0q4t8
[12:56] <holms> norbert79: now that's lol
[12:56] <holms> 2.6 is out of date
[12:56] <norbert79> holms: Not really
[12:56] <holms> even datetime functions works differently
[12:56] <norbert79> holms: Lucid came with 2.6. If you wish having a more recent version you need to go to Python for providing the deb packages for you using Lucid, or you need to compile the module on your own
[12:57] <norbert79> holms: I would suggest reading apt-cache show libapache2-mod-wsgi and check the line 'Depends on'
[12:58] <holms> norbert79:
[12:58] <holms> Depends: apache2, apache2.2-common, libc6 (>= 2.4), libpython2.6 (>= 2.6), python (>= 2.6), python (<< 2.7)
[12:58] <norbert79> holms: Here is the link to the WSGI page: http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/DownloadTheSoftware?tm=2
[12:59] <Lachezar> holms: There seems to be a WSGIPythonHome directive. Maybe this can help?
[12:59] <norbert79> Lachezar: Might cause issues, since the module was compiled for 2.6
[12:59] <holms> hm let'see
[12:59] <norbert79> Lachezar: So I would not recommend that, but compiling it against 2.7
[13:00] <norbert79> Or upgrading to later Ubuntu versions
[13:00] <Lachezar> norbert79: I agree (generally). The WSGIPythonExecutable and WSGIPythonHome might help trying.
[13:02] <TheYsNoi> hello
[13:02] <norbert79> Lachezar: Well, indeed worth trying, but I wouldn't assume a failure free result :)
[13:02] <PatwoperAndroid> test
[13:02] <norbert79> PatwoperAndroid: Works! :)
[13:02] <Lachezar> norbert79: *shrug* Yes, probably will fail, but it does not hurt trying...
[13:02] <norbert79> lol
[13:03] <knytm4r3> hi there
[13:03] <TheYsNoi> same here...now working
[13:04] <Tom22> Hi norbert79 & bullgard4 . I'm back. I have 2 sound chips in there. 1 on board, and 1 sound card. I bought the sound card because the on board wasn't working properly with Ubuntu
[13:04] <norbert79> Tom22: Hah, as I assumed... Why don't you switch the soundcard using F6 in your alsa-mixer then, and check if the volumes work there
[13:05] <norbert79> Tom22: just as generic reminder: make sure your speakers are attached to your soundcard
[13:05] <norbert79> Tom22: And it would have been worth trying to check your BIOS on your motherboard based soundcard which settings it had set
[13:06] <Tom22> norbert79 right, f6 brings up a menu with 3 options:
[13:07] <Tom22> [13:07] <Tom22> -   (default)
[13:07] <Tom22> 0  ESS ES1978 (Maestro 2E)
[13:07] <FloodBot1> Tom22: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:07] <Tom22>      enter device name...
[13:07] <norbert79> Tom22: Chill for a bit, floodbot didn't like you :) Send me the message in a form of /msg
[13:07] <Tom22> norbert79 :) ok
[13:09] <IamTrying> Has anyone installed Ubuntu on "Dell Inspiron One" ? (all drivers works?)
[13:10] <hyperstream> IamTrying, i did a Inspiron 8200 the other day :P mega pain.
[13:11] <Lachezar> Oh. While I'm at it: I am having trouble running Ubuntu (From USB) on my new home computer: I get 'Boot failure' and do not reach GRUB at all.
[13:11] <IamTrying> hyperstream, pain???? what do you mean nothing supports or do not get installed or you just unable to complete
[13:11] <Lachezar> Tried using the 'Live USB Maker', and tried manually installing GRUB to the USB stick. Windows 7 USB boots :(
[13:12] <Ramonskie> when i burn or put the ubuntu server 10.10 on usb and i put it in my machine i get redirected to gnu grub 1.98+20100804-5ubuntu3. and can't do anything also the list of command when pressing TAB is confussing
[13:13] <hyperstream> IamTrying, well the touchpad and the little stick thing in the middle of the keyboard was working properly pulling to one side etc. USB mouse didnt help. That was the hardest part of the installation. I also had to install from grub menu rather than livecd enviroment(failed most the way through).
[13:13] <hyperstream> IamTrying, what issue are you having champ ?
[13:13] <Lachezar> Can I install Lubuntu «on top» of my regular Ubuntu?
[13:14] <Lachezar> I know I can do it with Xubuntu (installinf xfce-desktop).
[13:14] <meberhart> you could dual boot
[13:14] <meberhart> or do you just want the DE?
[13:16] <Pici> Lachezar: sure.
[13:17] <Pici> Lachezar: lxde-core depends on the core components of the desktop, or you can choose to install lubuntu-desktop
[13:18] <Lachezar> Pici: Common Ubuntu repository, or do I need to add another one?
[13:18] <IamTrying> hyperstream, i got USB keyboard and USB mouse and CD-ROM. So i hope no worries to format first? :)
[13:18] <Pici> Lachezar: Everything is in the regular Ubuntu repos.
[13:18] <Lachezar> Pici: nice... One good news item in some time :)
[13:19] <hyperstream> IamTrying, If live cd works, id be feeling confident in the format and install. How ever, not everything goes to plan ;/
[13:19] <spop> MSG ubuntu
[13:19] <hyperstream> IamTrying, err, sometimes things dont always go as planned*
[13:19] <spop> a
[13:20] <hyperstream> spop: dont its a trick!!
[13:20] <Lachezar> Doh... This bug with aptitude not showing correct package states is seriously hindering me :(
[13:20] <IamTrying> hyperstream, OK i cross my finger in 33 direction hope it get installed and i dont lose touch / other drivers.
[13:20] <aLeSD|> hi
[13:20] <Panpan_> Please where I can find all chat's channel ?
[13:20] <LjL> !alis > Panpan_
[13:20] <hyperstream> IamTrying, :) What do you have on it now? How big is the hard drive at current? How much free space?
[13:21] <IamTrying> hyperstream, i just bought it now, its i5 cpu, 6gb ram, 500gb space. Running windows 7 64-bit. Will remove it with Ubuntu 64-bit as a test drive.
[13:22] <hyperstream> IamTrying,  Oh man, ahah my 8200 is like 512MB ram, old school. That machine should fly with ubuntu on it.
[13:23] <hyperstream> IamTrying, just dual boot it for peace of mind if you want. Install it next to your windows. Or use some sort of a partitioning software to shrink your main partition to free up some space to place ubuntu on its own.
[13:23] <Panpan_> !alis
[13:23] <IamTrying> hyperstream, OK thank you, if trouble i will knock here back :)
[13:23] <mivulf> hmmm. which folder on ubuntu is analogy for Program Files? opt?
[13:23] <Ramonskie> when i burn or put the ubuntu server 10.10 on usb and i put it in my machine i get redirected to gnu grub 1.98+20100804-5ubuntu3. and can't do anything also the list of command when pressing TAB is confussing
[13:23] <hyperstream> IamTrying, sure thing, should be here for another hour or so :)
[13:24] <Panpan_> ok thanks how i can enter inside ?
[13:24] <hyperstream> Ramonskie, what are you trying to achieve with the USB key ? an install or repair ?
[13:24] <Ramonskie> install but i also tried it with a cd same result
[13:25] <hyperstream> Panpan_, you use /join #channel
[13:25] <newcode> Can I install a specific version of php using apt-get?
[13:25] <hyperstream> Ramonskie,  Is there a previous version of ubuntu installed ?
[13:25] <jatt> yes
[13:25] <jatt> !pinning
[13:26] <Ramonskie> hyperstream, nope cleared all disks i even deleted the raid volumes
[13:26] <Panpan_> ok thanks you guys
[13:26] <hyperstream> Ramonskie, is this a 'Live' USB ? and the cd was also a live cd ?
[13:27] <Ramonskie> hyperstream, just downloaded the 10.10 server iso and burned it to cd
[13:28] <hyperstream> Ramonskie, ahh, just to make sure, you are planning to use this as a desktop ?
[13:28] <Ramonskie> hyperstream, and with the usb i rtied unetbootin or and the diskcreator
[13:28] <hyperstream> Ramonskie, its weird cause you should be prompted with a screen where you can choose what you want to do. IE: live cd | install | check for defects etc
[13:28] <ericandrewlewis> is it ill-advised to buy an apple computer if i'm planning on using ubuntu in the future?
[13:29] <Ramonskie> hyperstream, no the is going to be a server, i had the 10.04 installed but there where alot of problems with the network card so i wiped the thing i wanted to start with a newer version
[13:29]  * ericandrewlewis is aware of dual booting / partitioning
[13:30] <PhorceP> Ramonskie: I believe 10.10 will become unsupported in April, so it may not be the best choice of versions
[13:30] <dr_willis> ericandrewlewis:  why pay the extra $if you dont need osx
[13:30] <hyperstream> Ramonskie, ahh, im afraid its out of my reach. From what i've semi gathered/pictured, i figured there was an old ubuntu grub loader that is kicking over instead of booting from CD or USB (BIOS Boot order)
[13:30] <ericandrewlewis> dr_willis b/c i've become accustomed to osx over the past 7 years, and the applications built on it
[13:31] <dr_willis> ericandrewlewis:  you just as
[13:31] <jatt> actually apple machines are popular among some linux (kernel) developers afaik
[13:31] <Ramonskie> PhorceP, the newer version has some dependency that dont work with cloudfoundry setup
[13:31] <dr_willis> ansewered your iwn question then
[13:31] <reisio> ericandrewlewis: Linux supports Apple hardware well
[13:31] <hyperstream> ericandrewlewis, its what you make of your OS :)
[13:31] <holms> osx have macports no problem to work in there who need photoshop, especially web devs :P
[13:31] <dr_willis> if yiu need osx.. buy apple
[13:31] <ericandrewlewis> just wondering if there's any practical issues with using ubuntu on mac hardware, no then?
[13:31] <reisio> they're just expensive because of their trendiness
[13:32] <reisio> not really no
[13:32] <holms> reisio: don't flame about apple in here. if not pro you don't need apple =)
[13:32] <dr_willis> marketing
[13:32] <jatt> they are pretty well built machines
[13:32] <reisio> who's flaming
[13:32] <holms> jatt++
[13:32] <ericandrewlewis> k thanks reisio holms dr_willis
[13:32] <holms> reisio: because it's not a trent and not overpriced
[13:32] <holms> those who buying to browse the web are idiots
[13:32] <Ramonskie> hyperstream, i thought that was the problem also but when i removed the cd or usb it just tells me that there is nothing installed :)
[13:32] <reisio> they are well built, just not twice the price well built
[13:33] <holms> but those who buying them for media pro software, for exmaple logic studio (and coreaudio in osx have 3x better latency)
[13:33] <holms> it's the way to go
[13:33] <holms> coreaudio implemented on kernel level
[13:33] <hyperstream> Ramonskie, What happeneds if you select the default option (or there is none ?) <-- you said you had a grub screen etc.
[13:33] <holms> windows it's on userland, which is 12-15ms latency instead of 3ms
[13:33] <holms> reisio: one of the reason to have it for me. and ofcourse shell+photoshop :P
[13:33] <holms> i used hackintosh on my pc for 2 years :P
[13:34] <holms> ok sorry for flame ;D
[13:34] <holms> done
[13:34] <hyperstream> lol
[13:34] <jtannenbaum> I'm on 10.04; I changed my cursor in Appearance, and it's only showing a difference when it's hovering over links/window borders
[13:34] <jtannenbaum> otherwise it's the usual white cursor
[13:35] <silver_hook> I want to upgrade 10.04 → 11.10, do I have to upgrade version by version and if so, do I have to reboot in between updates?
[13:35] <hyperstream> jtannenbaum, move the mouse to the white part where its not working, grab the correct colored marker and color it in on the screen. Its working, but please dont move it.
[13:35] <Ramonskie> hyperstream, i donn't have any options it just tells me that i can press the TAB button to see the list of commands.  but when i use the command "ls" it shows me {memdisk} {hd0} {hd1} and nothing further
[13:35] <hyperstream> jtannenbaum, joking, are you using gnome ?
[13:35] <jtannenbaum> yea
[13:35] <mdupont> hi all
[13:35] <LjL> silver_hook: yes, and yes. maybe it would be better to wait until Precise is out, and upgrade directly to that.
[13:35] <silver_hook> 12.04? Why?
[13:36] <hyperstream> jtannenbaum, i would try rebooting (if you havnt) sometimes things are just a little funky and is fixed when reloaded.
[13:36] <jtannenbaum> mm, thanks
[13:36] <silver_hook> Will that be LTS again
[13:36] <LjL> silver_hook: because 12.04 will be LTS like 10.04, so you can upgrade directly to it without going version-by-version
[13:37] <mdupont> i am just trying to upgrade to to use nvidia, on oneric, and now i am dropped down to irrssi. the kernel module nivida-current-updates is not found , any suggestions?
[13:37] <silver_hook> LjL: Thanks for the idea. I guess we'll just wait for these two months :]
[13:37] <reisio> failsafe login?
[13:38] <babalu> hello, is there a tool that allows to send screenshots directly to imgur?
[13:39] <reisio> there are probably scripts
[13:39] <babalu> reisio: i want to be able to upload just a part of my screen
[13:40] <LjL> babalu: KSnapshot supports a few sites, but not imgur :(
[13:40] <eden6000> Is it something you have to do frequently?
[13:40] <babalu> eden6000: yes
[13:41] <babalu> LjL: which websites? and how to use this functionnality?
[13:41] <eden6000> babalu: try this? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/quickly-upload-images-to-imgur-via-nautilus/
[13:42] <babalu> eden6000: you'd have to have the images already saved on your desktop
[13:43] <LjL> babalu: Zooomr, Flickr, 23, Piwigo, SmugMug, Shwup, Debian Screenshots, Picasa, Gallery, Facebook
[13:43] <eden6000> mmm...yes...
[13:43] <jdhfr> how to upgrade on next release?
[13:43] <LjL> babalu: i'm also finding hints that the Pastebin plasmoid for KDE allows exporting to imgur, but you'd need the KDE desktop for that
[13:43] <bazhang> !upgrade > jdhfr
[13:43] <babalu> LjL: i have kde, so what should i do?
[13:43] <jdhfr> i don;t have a browser
[13:44] <babalu> what i'm looking for is HyperDesktop http://imgur.com/tools , however, when i start installing it with wine, i get a warning saying that there are more suitable tools for *nix systems, without giving any other precisions
[13:44] <LjL> babalu: press the PrintScreen key
[13:44] <robertzaccour> I put in a cd and no music to be found. any suggestions? yes it is a music cd
[13:44] <LjL> babalu: take a screenshot, then press Send, and that'll allow you to select one of those sites
[13:44] <jason404> is there a setting/hotkey which makes less show the percentage or line-number/total-lines in a text files, so you know how far into it you are?
[13:45] <babalu> LjL: i can only "Send to..." applications (like gwenview)
[13:45] <reisio> babalu: there's a Linux util father down the page
[13:45] <LjL> babalu: uhm, weird, maybe it's a plugin, let me look.
[13:45] <eden6000> http://sirupsen.com/a-simple-imgur-bash-screenshot-utility/
[13:46] <babalu> oh i missed that one, thanks :)
[13:46] <babalu> LjL: cool thanks
[13:46] <eden6000> just try....I don't use imgur :-)
[13:46] <LjL> babalu: well i don't know, the APT package description doesn't say what package you need for sending. maybe it's "kipi-plugins" but i'm not sure. you can also add the Pastebin plasmoid to your panel or desktop, and use that - it supports imgur, i just checked.
[13:46] <reisio> eden6000: what do you use?
[13:47] <mdupont> ok well thanks for all the advice people.
[13:47] <jdhfr> can someone just tell me a command to upgrade release?
[13:47] <eden6000> I don't use any image sharer at all :-)
[13:47] <claudios> ciao
[13:47] <claudios> !list
[13:47] <reisio> ah :)
[13:47] <bazhang> jdhfr, its still two months to release
[13:48] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 support jdhfr
[13:48] <x00110110> !help
[13:48] <babalu> LjL: is there an important reason as to why ksnapshot doesn't support imgur?
[13:48] <LjL> babalu: no idea
[13:49]  * quiescens dies.
[13:50] <reisio> heh
[13:50] <lotrpy> let us revive you with some magic
[13:50] <mdupont> well it looks like i did not have the kernel sources installed, that is why the DKMS failed
[13:50] <mdupont> at least that was the message
[13:50] <robertzaccour> Is there a reason why my CDs aren't being recognized?
[13:50] <robertzaccour> I mean they're there in the home folder, but I open them and its empty
[13:50] <reisio> babalu: I bet you can find a script/patch for it
[13:50] <reisio> try asking #kde
[13:50] <LjL> babalu: someone was trying to add it, at least, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=224893
[13:51] <quiescens> mdupont: you don't usually need the kernel sources for dkms, but you do need the headers at least
[13:51] <babalu> i've tried the pastebin plasmoid it's working well :)
[13:51] <babalu> thanks for all the suggestions
[13:51] <reisio> bugs are nice, but don't assume because there's one that nobody's made the script yet, it's a bug internet
[13:52] <reisio> big :p
[13:52] <DinoMuffin> robertzaccour: what do you mean?
[13:53] <babalu> which image sharing websites do people recommend?
[13:53] <DinoMuffin> robertzaccour: mounted CD's would be in /media
[13:53] <reisio> babalu: imgur :p
[13:53] <jdhfr> i don't really care what support are where, i need my system on now. could someone show alittle consideration and give out command?
[13:53] <babalu> lol :)
[13:53] <reisio> imageshack got too annoying
[13:53] <robertzaccour> DinoMuffin: I put in any cd, try to import it into a media player, it shows the cd folder empty. Then I try to access the cd files in the home folder. empty. I just did a fresh install, so I'm gonna download and install again in case the file was corrupt.
[13:53] <babalu> true
[13:54] <reisio> jdhfr: what's the problem?
[13:54] <LjL> jdhfr: the fact that *you* don't care says nothing about what this channel should do.
[13:54] <DinoMuffin> robertzaccour: what cd player are you using?
[13:54] <jdhfr> reisio: i need command for release upgrade
[13:54] <robertzaccour> DinoMuffin: amarok, clementine
[13:55] <reisio> bet the bot knows it
[13:55] <bazhang> jdhfr, it's alpha
[13:55] <Pici> jdhfr: to what release?
[13:55] <melvincv> Where do I learn about ubuntu server, online?
[13:55] <DinoMuffin> robertzaccour: have you tried VCL?
[13:56] <robertzaccour> DinoMuffin: The home folder says the disc is empty, what could any player do?
[13:56] <jdhfr> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 11.10", next one after this
[13:56] <reisio> VLC is easily the best GUI multi-media player on any OS
[13:56] <shisha42> .71.14.254
[13:56] <LjL> jdhfr: there isn't a release after that. there will be in April.
[13:56] <TheYsNoi> VLC is great
[13:56] <reisio> mplayer the best without GUI :)
[13:56] <PhorceP> reisio: not really, since it doesn't utilize more than one core
[13:56] <DinoMuffin> robertzaccour: VCL can open CDs through the GUI
[13:57] <DinoMuffin> robertzaccour: the mounted CD wouldn't be in your home folder
[13:57] <reisio> I'm sure it can
[13:57] <mdupont> [5~[5~[5~[5~[5~[A[A[A[B[B[C[C[D[D//q
[13:57] <DinoMuffin> robertzaccour: to mount a CD manually, try: "sudo mkdir /media/cd ; sudo mount /dev/sr0 /media/cd"
[13:58] <reisio> use /mnt/ for manual mounts
[13:58] <PhorceP> reisio: I've watched it peg a single CPU to 100%, then played the same video in XBMC where both cores are clearly being utilized
[13:58] <samba35> how do i run (execute) xxxx.run  file
[13:59] <jatt> what does
[13:59] <jatt> file xxxx.run
[13:59] <jatt> say
[14:00] <samba35> i have chnage permission +x and ./file name it give me error
[14:00] <iceroot> samba35: chmod +x xxxx.run  then ./xxxx.run
[14:00] <reisio> PhorceP: and I prefer mplayer, but as an ordinary GUI player, VLC is the best, even if it doesn't necessarily utilize multiple cores ATM (which I doubt somewhat)
[14:00] <iceroot> !details | samba35
[14:00]  * reisio shrugs
[14:02] <samba35> it give me error cant execute binay file
[14:02] <robertzaccour> VLC is playing it fine :) perhaps KDE is just weird about media. How do I organize playlists in vlc?
[14:04] <dddbmt> How do I update Firefox from 9.0.1 to the newest? I am using Ubuntu 11.10
[14:04] <LjL> !info firefox
[14:04] <woozly> does apt-get has packages? want to install web-dev (apache, php, phpmyadmin... etc)
[14:04] <LjL> !latest | dddbmt
[14:05] <theadmin> !lamp | woozly
[14:08] <Lam0r> hi
[14:08] <DinoMuffin> howdy
[14:08] <Lam0r> deutsche hier ?
[14:08] <DinoMuffin> probably not
[14:09] <jatt> !de
[14:11] <Vlady> Hi all
[14:12] <DinoMuffin> hi
[14:14] <mdupont> ok quiescens that was it, need to install the exact mathching header files.
[14:14] <mdupont> thanks bai
[14:14] <mdupont> \q
[14:14] <jdhfr> why ibuntu dont do differential updastrs? is it at all possinlwe with debs?
[14:15] <DinoMuffin> what?
[14:16] <jdhfr> rpm systems do download small files, can deb ones do the same and why ubuntu doesnt?
[14:17] <DinoMuffin> jdhfr: I guess I don't understand what you're trying to do. Is something not updating properly?
[14:19] <jdhfr> ubuntu download whole packettes when upgrading, can i make her download difference files only, like rpm packettes in fedora etc?
[14:19] <iceroot> jdhfr: no
[14:19] <dlentz> jdhfr, you're referring to delta rpm's and deb doesn't have euivalent
[14:19] <iceroot> jdhfr: there are no delta-packages on debian bases systems
[14:20] <jdhfr> sad is it impossibl e completely? :(
[14:20] <iceroot> jdhfr: its not possible to have deltas
[14:20] <byfay> hallow
[14:20] <byfay> im newbie
[14:21] <byfay> can some one help me
[14:21] <Bisu[Shield]> is there a sticky notes something for gnome 3?
[14:21] <dlentz> !ask | byfay
[14:22] <Bisu[Shield]> !ask | ubottu
[14:22] <hyperstream> ut-oh
[14:29] <xro> Hi, i installed ubuntu 10.04 in a VMware server... I installed the vm-tools but i cannot have my vm in full screen... why? have an idea?
[14:30] <fishcooker> hello fellas..
[14:30] <fishcooker> i've come with netmos tech pci 9865..
[14:31] <fishcooker> anyone have same problem to make it works with ubuntu?
[14:31] <babalu> how can i get a good security for my computer? is there to know whether or not my computer is keylogged?
[14:31] <LjL> !crosspost | babalu
[14:32] <babalu> LjL: sorry
[14:32] <TotalSwitch> lo
[14:32] <aLeSD|> mmm
[14:32] <LjL> babalu: you can install rkhunter and chkrootkit to check for some common malware, you can also enable a firewall
[14:32] <aLeSD|> my ubuntu stops forever to the ubuntu starting system image
[14:32] <aLeSD|> and I have to sudo service lightdm start
[14:33] <aLeSD|> I think I have not lightdm in the rc ...
[14:34] <propellerdnk> Seeking a Russian speaking member
[14:35] <bazhang> !ru | propellerdnk
[14:35] <propellerdnk> Seeking a Russian speaking member
[14:35] <bazhang> propellerdnk, #ubuntu-ru
[14:35] <propellerdnk> тщ
[14:35] <propellerdnk> no !
[14:36] <bazhang> propellerdnk, here is english
[14:36] <jpds> propellerdnk: You were asking this yesterday.
[14:36] <propellerdnk> Seeking a Russian speaking member   ,   no #ubuntu-ru
[14:36] <babalu> i interrupted an install of sudo apt-get install, by closing the Konsole running it; now i can't start apt-get anywhere else
[14:37] <ikonia> propellerdnk: #ubuntu-ru - or not at all
[14:37] <deel> Hi please see my question here http://askubuntu.com/questions/100509/how-to-type-in-indic-language-from-english-us-keyboard
[14:37] <jpds> propellerdnk: вы уже знаете где наитй помошь.
[14:37] <xro> I'm the only guy that cannot put ubuntu in full screen in his VMware server?
[14:37] <Onigiri> Well that was annoying... apparently I can't just give the installer the dns name for the iscsi portal during install... it needs the ip or the machine won't come up on first boot. ._.
[14:38] <prower> hello everyone :> i'm still having a weird dvd burning issue in 11.10 that has existed in my case since...i believe 9.04. though my burner supports speeds of up to 18x (as do the dvd-r's that i'm using), wodim in k3b reports that my burner doesn't support speeds of 18x and downgrades right to 4x :< this is not a problem in any other linux distribution i use, nor windows...anyone know what...
[14:38] <prower> ...might be going on here?
[14:38] <sandy19> hey can some one help me on xampp installation
[14:38] <ikonia> sandy19: what are you trying to install ?
[14:38] <bazhang> sandy19, xampp is not supported, use lamp
[14:39] <sandy19> oh yes lamp on 64 bit ubuntu
[14:40] <sandy19> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1918594
[14:40] <sandy19> here is my problem i tried to install lamp
[14:40] <ikonia> sandy19: how did you try to install lamp
[14:40] <jrib> !lamp | sandy19
[14:40] <jrib> ikonia: according to his forum post, he's trying to use xampp
[14:41] <ikonia> jrib: and yet he's in here saying lamp......
[14:41] <babalu> i get an error message when i start apt-get, that says that there is a lock
[14:41] <babalu> what can i do?
[14:41] <prower> i'd think twice about using python as a web-app development language in ubuntu, considering some of the problems with the basic functioning in the version of python 2.x in 11.10 :<
[14:41] <jrib> prower: what problems/
[14:41] <ikonia> what are you talking about ?
[14:42] <prower> jrib: i'll give a demonstration if you'd like! just open up a terminal and run python as the interactive interpreter
[14:42] <jrib> prower: yes?
[14:42] <prower> jrib: alright, now type help(), then modules
[14:42] <eikke> I just provisioned an Oneiric machine using Ubuntu Orchestra using the default profile
[14:43] <eikke> now I'm wondering: what are the username/password to use?!
[14:43] <prower> jrib: you should see a segfault
[14:43] <prower> i'm not trying to be insulting by the way, i've been contributing to information on the bug on launchpad :>
[14:43] <sipior> prower: works fine here.
[14:44] <prower> sipior: really? That's interesting...are you using unity or kde? 32-bit or 64-bit?
[14:44] <prower> (this information could really help)
[14:44] <sipior> prower: server install, 64-bit.
[14:44] <ikonia> the desktop shouldn't matter
[14:45] <prower> sipior: aha...the segfault occurs when parts of gtk are installed, that's probably why you don't see it...and as ikonia says on a server you're probably not going to have desktop stuff installed anyway :> that's good to know though, a little bit closer to what the problem might be
[14:46] <sipior> prower: i do have a fair bit of gtk installed, but it's possible there's a package or two missing. in any event, you say you've submitted a bug report.
[14:47] <jdhfr> why is bluetiith built in ubuntu?
[14:47] <sipior> jdhfr: why wouldn't it be?
[14:48] <jdhfr> because it's optional hardware
[14:48] <ikonia> jdhfr: it doesn't get loaded if there is no blue tooth hardware
[14:48] <sipior> jdhfr: fairly common optional hardware, you mean.
[14:48] <prower> sipior: oh yes, the bug is in there...it hasn't been assigned to anyone yet but it's there :> it's just a bit discouraging to have some of the basic functionality of python broken when you're writing apps in it...particularly for new users to python, a lot of tutorials direct you to help() modules and on a typical 64-bit, unity installation that causes a crash :/ it'll all be fixed in time though
[14:49] <LjL> jdhfr: most hardware is "optional", that doesn't mean Ubuntu shouldn't have built-in support for it.
[14:50] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek day 2 starting in 10 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[14:50] <jdhfr> it should not have unremovable support i belibe?
[14:50] <deel> \q
[14:50] <ikonia> jdhfr: it is
[14:50] <deel> quit
[14:50] <ikonia> jdhfr: you can remove the software you don't want, and the modules don't get loaded unless there is bluetooth hardware in the machine
[14:51] <shisha42> 77.71.14.254
[14:51] <ikonia> shisha42: ?
[14:51] <shisha42> 77.71.14.254:6667
[14:51] <ikonia> shisha42: stop that
[14:51] <ikonia> shisha42: do you need Ubuntu help ?
[14:51] <jdhfr> well i tried remove bluez stuff but my desktop applications going with it :(
[14:51] <ikonia> jdhfr: no they don't
[14:51] <sandy19> hello guys i tried to follow the tutorial given by bot
[14:51] <ikonia> jdhfr: and to be honest it takes up approx 1.2 meg of disk space, why do you care
[14:51] <sandy19> but failed
[14:52] <ikonia> sandy19: you need to give more information than "it failed"
[14:52] <sandy19> ok my os : ubuntu 11.10 (64bit)
[14:53] <sandy19> i download the lamp
[14:53] <prower> i'll try to dig up information on the bug so that if anyone experiences it here they can report it as well :> just need to figure out why my sound suddenly stopped working first, bbl
[14:53] <ikonia> sandy19: how did you download lamp ?
[14:53] <sandy19> tar ball file
[14:53] <ikonia> sandy19: no - there is no tar ball in those instructions
[14:53] <ikonia> !lamp
[14:53] <no_gravity> Hello! When trying to conntect to a wifi spot and it fails - is there any way to see what went wrong?
[14:53] <ttt-4> hi, i get a kernel panic when booting into ubuntu. How can i find out what is wrong or how to fix it?
[14:54] <ikonia> ttt-4: read the info on screen to get an idea
[14:54] <iggymydog> i need help getting minecraft to work on my computer....i have java jkd but it says that minecraft isent exucutable......wtf?
[14:54] <ikonia> sandy19: show me where in that document it says "download a tar ball"
[14:54] <twright> no_gravity: it will usually be something authentication related
[14:54] <sandy19> i installed xampp from here --> http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html
[14:54] <ikonia> sandy19: that's not the link you where given in here
[14:54] <ttt-4> only the end of the stack is printed on the screen. I couldnt make anything of it, ikonia
[14:54] <LjL> sandy19: LAMP is not XAMPP. XAMPP isn't supported here.
[14:54] <ikonia> sandy19: we told you not to use xammp
[14:54] <iggymydog> i need help getting minecraft to work on my computer....i have java jkd but it says that minecraft isent exucutable......wtf?
[14:54] <ttt-4> is the kernel panic written to a log somewhere?
[14:54] <no_gravity> twright: awesome. now what?
[14:54] <ikonia> iggymydog: stop with the language
[14:54] <sandy19> oh sorry then i  need to install lamp
[14:54] <iggymydog> langue?
[14:55] <DinoMuffin> iggymydog: what command are you using to start minecraft?
[14:55] <no_gravity> twright: by the way, its an open network
[14:55] <iggymydog> you mean english?
[14:55] <LjL> iggymydog: no need for "wtf".
[14:55] <twright> no_gravity: hm, then it may be signal strength
[14:55] <iggymydog> what the fudge
[14:55] <iggymydog> i dont know what command im useing
[14:55] <no_gravity> twright: no, its fine. my other computers can connect.
[14:55] <iggymydog> its just not excutable is all i know i guess
[14:55] <fardad> hello all: I need to get few webcams  and be sure they are compatible with Ubuntu, any suggestions?
[14:56] <DinoMuffin> iggymydog: you need to envoke java to run the minecraft client
[14:56] <UICTamale> iggymydog: are you double-clicking on it?
[14:56] <DinoMuffin> iggymydog: java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
[14:56] <iText> Which is the right place to ask about packaging an app for ubuntu
[14:56] <twright> no_gravity: the command `iwlist scanning` will give you more info
[14:56] <LjL> iText: #ubuntu-packaging
[14:56] <iText> LjL Thanks
[14:56] <LjL> iText: there are also sessions about development in #ubuntu-classroom currnetly, including ones about packaging
[14:56] <iggymydog> im right clicking it and slecting java from a list of apps to run   it on
[14:56] <Guest64875> iggymydog, java "minecraft executable"    maybe even do chmod +x "minecraft executable" ................. at a quick guess.
[14:57] <ttt-4> hi, i get a kernel panic when booting into ubuntu. How can i find out what is wrong or how to fix it? Only the end of a call stack gets shown on the screen and it says 'kernel panic.. rebooting in 30seconds'. Any ideas?
[14:57] <iggymydog> i dont exactely know what that means.....
[14:57] <UICTamale> has anyone seen a problem with shutting down ubuntu in 11.10?  Every time I shut down, the machine hangs after a few seconds' worth of the alternating orange and white blocks under the word 'ubuntu'.
[14:57] <iggymydog> im a noob at ubuntu
[14:57] <theadmin> iggymydog: java -jar minecraft.jar
[14:57] <iggymydog> guest64575: can you walk me through it?
[14:57] <DinoMuffin> iggymydog: you need to use the minecraft jar file with a specific command
[14:57] <UICTamale> iggymydog: You need to open your terminal.  It's under accessories
[14:57] <DinoMuffin> iggymydog: specifically the one I gave you above
[14:58] <iggymydog> ok term got it
[14:58] <iggymydog> its open
[14:58] <twright> no_gravity: and dmesg should tell you if any errors occurred when you attempt to connect
[14:58] <prower> phew...just needed to log out and log in apparently :> for anyone who _is_ experiencing the segfault issue with python, here is the bug on launchpad...please contribute to it if you can, i think the lack of information is stalling things: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python2.7/+bug/896836
[14:58] <iggymydog> now?
[14:58] <DinoMuffin> go to the directory with the minecraft.jar file
[14:58] <UICTamale> Ok, now go into the folder where you keep the minecraft jar
[14:58] <UICTamale> if it's on your desktop, that'll be "cd Desktop"
[14:58] <iggymydog> dinomuffin: now what?
[14:58] <DinoMuffin> enter in: java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
[14:58] <UICTamale> "cd" for "change directory"
[14:58] <iggymydog> uictzmzle: now what?
[14:58] <UICTamale> now type what dinomuffin put in there
[14:59] <iggymydog> UICTamale: now what?
[14:59] <UICTamale> "   java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame   "   without the quotes
[14:59] <iggymydog> ok
[15:00] <iggymydog> nana@nana:~$  java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame    Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/minecraft/LauncherFrame Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: net.minecraft.LauncherFrame 	at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:217) 	at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) 	at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:205) 	at 
[15:00] <no_gravity> twright: ok, will play around with dmesg
[15:00] <iggymydog> nana@nana:~$  java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame    Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/minecraft/LauncherFrame Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: net.minecraft.LauncherFrame 	at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:217) 	at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) 	at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:205) 	at 
[15:00] <iggymydog> somethign went wrong?
[15:00] <parana> guys is it true or not, i have to know before doing it:
[15:00] <parana> dd if=/dev/sde of=/home/somefolder/image.img
[15:00] <parana> to create a image of my sd card?
[15:00] <UICTamale> if you type "ls", do you see the minecraft jar?
[15:00] <LjL> parana: looks right, assuming your sd card is /dev/sde
[15:00] <theadmin> parana: That is correct, but only if /dev/sde is your SD card
[15:01] <iggymydog> no
[15:01] <epron> hello, I am kinda ubuntu newbie. I get MANY of these entries in my auth.log which I didn't get before. Any ideas? CRON[5076]: pam_unix(cron:session): session closed for user root
[15:01] <epron> they are executing every 10 mins
[15:01] <iggymydog> no i dont see minecraft.jar
[15:01] <theadmin> UICTamale: If it throws an exception then yes, it's there.
[15:01] <UICTamale> iggymydog: then you're not in the right directory.
[15:01] <parana> LjL: theadmin: thx a lot
[15:01] <iggymydog> nana@nana:~$ ls avida    Documents  examples.desktop  Pictures  screenshot.png  Ubuntu One Desktop  Downloads  Music             Public    Templates       Videos nana@nana:~$
[15:01] <parana> my sd card at sde
[15:01] <iggymydog> what should i do then?
[15:01]  * prower ponders dd if=/dev/random of=/home/somefolder/explodemyharddrive.img
[15:01] <UICTamale> theadmin: not if the error is a class def not found
[15:02] <theadmin> UICTamale: Oh... Man Java is annoyingly weird :/ Could just say "java: file not found" like any sane runtime
[15:02] <UICTamale> iggymydog: You didn't type "cd Desktop"
[15:02] <iggymydog> UICTamale: which dectory should i be in and how do i get there?
[15:02] <UICTamale> iggymydog: You need to do that first.
[15:02] <iggymydog> UICTamale: ok
[15:02] <UICTamale> iggymydog:  now do ls and confirm minecraft.jar is there
[15:03] <prower> theadmin: to say the least :P additionally if you're using openjdk for minecraft in linux you're probably going to have a good few issues, i did at least...had to get java 7 from oracle and manually install that
[15:03] <iggymydog> nana@nana:~$ cd Desktop nana@nana:~/Desktop$ ls 100_3070.JPG            map.desktop 100_3103.MOV            pattern.desktop fight.wav               pictures gnect.desktop           Untitled.wav gnome-terminal.desktop  WHITE_BIRCHES___Leonid_Afremov_by_Leonidafremov.jpg kigo.desktop nana@nana:~/Desktop$
[15:03] <iggymydog> no minecraft
[15:03] <jayson_> Has anyone ever got ubuntu working on a qualcomm board
[15:03] <theadmin> !arm | jayson_
[15:03] <epron> i guess it's kind of a cron job but why it didn't spit anything in auth.log before?
[15:04] <DinoMuffin> if you downloaded it, it's probably in your downloads folder
[15:04] <DinoMuffin> iggymydog: cd ~/Downloads/
[15:04] <UICTamale> has anyone seen a problem with shutting down ubuntu in 11.10?  Every time I shut down, the machine hangs after a few seconds' worth of the alternating orange and white blocks under the word 'ubuntu'.
[15:04] <iggymydog> nana@nana:~$ cd cd ~/Downloads/ bash: cd: cd: No such file or directory nana@nana:~$ cd desktop bash: cd: desktop: No such file or directory nana@nana:~$
[15:05] <iggymydog> dinomuffin: nana@nana:~$ cd cd ~/Downloads/ bash: cd: cd: No such file or directory nana@nana:~$ cd desktop bash: cd: desktop: No such file or directory nana@nana:~$
[15:05] <DinoMuffin> only one 'cd'
[15:05] <iggymydog> ???
[15:05] <DinoMuffin> iggymydog: you put in "cd cd ~/Downloads"
[15:05] <prower> iggymydog: you typed cd twice, you only need it once
[15:05] <DinoMuffin> instead of "cd ~/Downloads/"
[15:05] <|Anthony|> some updates came over the wire today... but the launchpad link in the update is broke:
[15:05] <|Anthony|> https://launchpad.net/bugs/915210
[15:05] <|Anthony|> why is that?
[15:05] <iggymydog> dinomuffin: nana@nana:~$ cd ~/downloads/ bash: cd: /home/nana/downloads/: No such file or directory nana@nana:~$
[15:06] <theadmin> iggymydog: Linux is case-sensetive. "downloads" is NOT "Downloads"
[15:06] <iggymydog> ohhhhh
[15:06] <iggymydog> ok
[15:06] <prower> iggymydog: don't worry, that's something people stumble over when they're first starting out :>
[15:07] <iggymydog> ok im at downloads now what?
[15:07] <DinoMuffin> now run the command from before
[15:07] <DinoMuffin> java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
[15:07] <UICTamale> if that's where minecraft.jar is
[15:07] <UICTamale> :)
[15:07] <UICTamale> you can keep doing 'cd <something>' and 'ls' till you find it.
[15:07] <DinoMuffin> well if he downlodaed it, it should go there by default
[15:08] <iggymydog> omg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! minecraft!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[15:08] <UICTamale> true, teach a man to fish, etc
[15:08] <UICTamale> rofl
[15:08] <iggymydog> hahahahaha thank you soooo much!
[15:08] <DinoMuffin> if it's still not there, run: "find ~ -name minecraft.jar"
[15:08] <DinoMuffin> iggymydog: np
[15:08] <UICTamale> most rewarding support thread I've seen in a while
[15:08] <prower> DinoMuffin: Are the extra memory allocation bits necessary? I've had poor performance in minecraft in general but i just run it as java -jar minecraft.jar
[15:08] <theadmin> DinoMuffin: Given that "~/Downloads" exists in a default Ubuntu setup, lol, otherwise Firefox would ask where to save
[15:08] <iggymydog> will i have to do this everytime?
[15:08] <islamico> hello
[15:08] <UICTamale> iggymydog: No, you can make a custom launcher.
[15:08] <DinoMuffin> iggymydog: you can put the command into a file and execute that instead
[15:09] <islamico> i wanna ask about something,may i ask??
[15:09] <iggymydog> how do i do that......
[15:09] <DinoMuffin> prower: I'm not sure if the memory params are defaulted if it's not entered
[15:09] <DinoMuffin> prower: never tried it
[15:09] <theadmin> iggymydog: No. Here, run this: echo "java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp ~/Downloads/minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame" > ~/Desktop/Minecraft && chmod a+x ~/Desktop/Minecraft
[15:09] <prower> DinoMuffin: Hmm...I'll have to give it a try your way and see if the sound chops up less
[15:09] <|Anthony|> anyone? why would a bug fix be pushed without a bug?
[15:09] <LjL> islamico: ask away
[15:09] <UICTamale> http://blog.mattwoodward.com/how-to-create-a-custom-launcher-in-unity-on-u
[15:09] <bazhang> islamico, go ahead
[15:09] <theadmin> iggymydog: This will give you a file called "Minecraft" on your desktop, now just run that
[15:10] <DinoMuffin> prower: if you're using something with intelGMA, it will lag a lot
[15:10] <islamico> how can i protect my pc from ARP attacks??
[15:10] <theadmin> Bah!
[15:10] <DinoMuffin> prower: unfortunately, minecraft is not optimised well
[15:10] <theadmin> iggymydog: Sorry, don't mind what I said, that won't work
[15:10] <prower> islamico: well, you could try installing arpwatch, that would at least tell you in your logs if someone is trying to poison you
[15:10] <LjL> !info arpon
[15:10] <derpies> T 1327667326 <incog>	hello󠁟
[15:10] <derpies> ._.
[15:10] <derpies> oops
[15:11] <islamico> but what about protection??
[15:11] <theadmin> iggymydog: This will: echo "#!/bin/bash" > ~/Desktop/Minecraft && echo "java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp ~/Downloads/minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame" >> ~/Desktop/Minecraft && chmod a+x ~/Desktop/Minecraft
[15:11] <iggymydog> thanks yall life saver
[15:11] <prower> DinoMuffin: So it would seem :< I found that I had to manually replace the version of lwjgl that it used with one off the website to get the controls to work properly
[15:11] <iggymydog> i did soemthing and its on my desktop?
[15:11] <derpies> Ÿ
[15:11] <derpies> 	helloó Ÿ
[15:11] <xro> Hi, Is there anybody thout could help me to put my ubuntu 10.04 in full screen in VM (VMware server)
[15:11] <LjL> derpies: please stop with the unicode
[15:11] <theadmin> iggymydog: Run the last command I gave then double-click the file that magically appeared on your desktop and there is your minecraft :P
[15:12] <iggymydog> imma gtg i got minecrafting to do :D thank you
[15:12] <iggymydog> <3
[15:12] <theadmin> Well that was a simple problem :)
[15:12] <islamico> i tried XARP BUT IT SENDS arp PACKETS TO THE ROUTER AND THE OTHER PCS WHICH MAKE THE ROUTER STOP THE CONNECTION OF MY PC
[15:13] <theadmin> DinoMuffin: Where'd you get that weird command with -Xmx and -Xms anyway
[15:14] <DinoMuffin> theadmin: minecraft.net download page :P
[15:14] <theadmin> DinoMuffin: Oh... Never thought of looking there xD
[15:14] <epron> could it be a rate limiting log imposed by ufw?
[15:16] <prower> islamico: arpwatch will, if i remember correctly, warn you if there's a change in ip address with respect to the known mac address, if you see this pop up in your logs i'd imagine you could just use ufw to firewall off the offending ip address
[15:16] <|Anthony|> anyone? why would a bug fix be pushed without a bug in launchpad?
[15:16] <|Anthony|> https://launchpad.net/bugs/915210
[15:16] <theadmin> |Anthony|: Maybe you miscopied the URL or something?
[15:16] <prower> |Anthony|: I would imagine that whoever pushed the bug out probably just hasn't gotten around to posting the information yet?
[15:16] <neww21> hello , maybe someone can help me ... ? my microphone not works
[15:17] <|Anthony|> hmm...
[15:17] <Tucks> Do I need the Python bindings for ClamAV (Antivirus)?
[15:17] <rewtz> by mistake anyone has problems installing shoutcast server on ubuntu 11 x64 ?
[15:17] <theadmin> Tucks: Not unless you know you do
[15:17] <AngelForget> your O.s. whay it is ?
[15:17] <theadmin> Tucks: You need them to code Python scripts which use clamav. If you do that, then yes.
[15:18] <Tucks> Thanks. I was installing a lot of ClamAV-related packages from the Software Center, and I wasn't sure whether I needed the Python ones. Good to know. :)
[15:19] <Pici> |Anthony|: I'm not sure why the bug page is blank, but this is what you should be looking at: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-1352-1/
[15:19] <|Anthony|> thanks Pici
[15:19] <melvincv> Is it possible to see my GPU temperature in Ubuntu? I'm using the AMD drivers, my GPU is AMD radeon hd 6450.
[15:20] <rewtz> Pici i can't add ipv6 on my vps ubuntu 11.04, no matter how i try i cannot see it in ifconfig.
[15:20] <XAlcadeiasX> hi
[15:20] <neww21> my micro was working but sound was very low , when i installed other driver in software sources it stopped work
[15:20] <RadiumCat> hello, whats a good minimalistic music player?
[15:20] <RadiumCat> something that just plays mp3, without the extra shabang
[15:20] <bazhang> audacious RadiumCat
[15:20] <AngelForget> stay one people speak italian ?
[15:21] <LjL> !it | AngelForget
[15:21] <bazhang> AngelForget, #ubuntu-it
[15:21] <RadiumCat> bazhang: something lightweight than that?
[15:21] <bazhang> RadiumCat, the command line mplayer?
[15:21] <XAlcadeiasX> mi spiegate solamente come cambiare canale?  scusate ma sono nuovo...
[15:21] <prower> RadiumCat: More lightweight than audacious? :P I suppose you could install sox and just type play whatever.mp3 from the console
[15:21] <rewtz> Pici: 2001:1af8:4010:a023:1:0:7176:8398 gateway 2001:1AF8:4010:A023::1/64 <- i cannot add, i get no error..
[15:21] <LjL> XAlcadeiasX: /join #canale
[15:21] <RadiumCat> sox, thats it
[15:21] <RadiumCat> thanks kindly
[15:21] <RadiumCat> bazhang: thanks for the help
[15:21] <prower> RadiumCat: No problem
[15:22] <RadiumCat> :)
[15:22] <Pici> rewtz: I'm not sure how to do that, sorry.
[15:22] <XAlcadeiasX>  /join #ubuntu-it
[15:22] <LjL> XAlcadeiasX: senza spazi prima della /
[15:22] <subb1> someone please demystify the concepts> TTY , PTS, console in Unix context.  I have searched google and everywhere they have the same explanation unuseful for me.  Man pages are even worse. This concept is so arcane. Kindly help or you could help me with a good article on this.
[15:22] <rewtz> Pici thanks!
[15:22] <ashickur-noor>  /join #ubuntu-it
[15:22] <ashickur-noor>  /j #ubuntu-it	
[15:22] <LjL> ashickur-noor: without spaces before the /
[15:24] <rewtz> can someone give me some ipv6 ubuntu help?
[15:24] <ikonia> best to just ask your question
[15:24] <szal> rewtz: ask an actual question
[15:25] <Tucks> One last question about a ClamAV package in the Software Center.  There is a package labeled "Update script for 3rd party signatures" (clamav-unofficial-sigs).  Should I install that?
[15:25] <prower> Tucks: All I've ever needed is clamav and the updating daemon for it personally
[15:25] <marijan> http://www.2shared.com/file/zeC04s1T/cs2d_0119_win_and_Aimbot.html
[15:25] <bazhang> marijan, ?
[15:26] <marijan> http://www.2shared.com/file/zeC04s1T/cs2d_0119_win_and_Aimbot.html
[15:26] <valdur55> Hello. How can i transate .desktop files?
[15:26] <rewtz> szal i tried every way from online tutorials to add 2001:1af8:4010:a023:1:0:7176:8398 gateway 2001:1AF8:4010:A023::1/64 in my ifconfig, i get no error on "ip -6" or by editing the /etc/networking/interfaces file but i can't see the ips in ifconfig
[15:26] <happyblue> I am using live-cd lucid, I cant install any progamms. it just doest not leave the "unpacking" stage...
[15:26] <prower> marijan: if you're expecting people here to download a random file labeled as an aimbot and run it you're probably barking up the wrong tree
[15:27] <tjiggi_fo> heh
[15:27] <Tucks> prower  ::  Okay, thanks.
[15:27] <prower> Tucks: np
[15:27] <bazhang> happyblue, on to the live session?
[15:27] <d[-_-]b> !ali
[15:28] <epron> so anyone can help me with this flooding auth.log: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0) ?
[15:28] <subb1> any help guys?
[15:28] <jdhfr> valdur55: there are script in build time, it pulls out strings and put them into .desktop
[15:28] <happyblue> bazhang, no I mean I am using the live session right now
[15:29] <jdhfr> or you mean?
[15:29] <happyblue> but I cant install any new programms with e.g. sudo apt-get install mbr
[15:29] <mneptok> happyblue: "mbr" is not a program
[15:29] <jdhfr> valdur55: program that desktop file is from surely have the strings in its pot file
[15:30] <Tucks> You can also search for packages in the command line using "sudo apt-cache search whateverpackageyourelookingfor"
[15:30] <DinoMuffin> epron: don't worry about it
[15:31] <DinoMuffin> epron: it's cron doing that
[15:31] <epron> it didn't before
[15:31] <epron> like.. a week before
[15:31] <happyblue> mneptok, http://pastie.org/3296271 is what I get
[15:31] <Kartagis> hi
[15:31] <mneptok> happyblue: what is it you're trying to do, exactly?
[15:32] <Kartagis> can you guide me to properlu set up audio input?
[15:32] <kasii> hi all
[15:32] <dr_willis> Kartagis:  theres that pauvcontrol tool that can do that i belive.
[15:33] <dr_willis> if i spelt it right
[15:33] <DinoMuffin> epron: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1106537
[15:33] <jdhfr> stupid ubuntu installer installs grub All the time :(
[15:33] <epron> DinoMuffin:  crontab -l for root is empty
[15:34] <txomon> hi, anyone knows how to install kubuntu without installing kdm
[15:34] <txomon> ?
[15:34] <epron> is it possible that something in cron.daily generates that?
[15:34] <LjL> txomon: i don't, but you can always reconfigure gdm so it starts instead.
[15:34] <LjL> txomon: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[15:34] <Kartagis> dr_willis: no pauvcontrol in repos or on my system
[15:34] <dr_willis> Kartagis:  install it.
[15:35] <dr_willis> !find pauvcontrol
[15:35] <DinoMuffin> epron: probably
[15:35] <dr_willis> if i can spell it right
[15:35] <txomon> LjL: yeah, but I don't want to have it, dont need kdm...
[15:35] <dr_willis> pavucontrol  pavuk        pavumeter
[15:35] <Psych> hahahah
[15:35] <LjL> txomon: why don't you just uninstall it after installing kubuntu-desktop?
[15:35] <dr_willis> !find pavucontrol
[15:36] <Kartagis> pavucontrol, okay
[15:36] <dr_willis> 'pulse audio volume Unknownword Control' :)
[15:36] <Psych> ubunto is very low xD
[15:36] <Teddy1> !how to see streams that use windows media player in firefox?
[15:36] <Psych> ubuntu is very low xD
[15:36] <LjL> Psych: do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[15:36] <txomon> LjL: it interacts with the system...
[15:37] <txomon> but ok
[15:37] <jdhfr> define 'low'
[15:37] <happyblue> mneptok: install live-cd on an usb. the usbcreator doesnt work as well
[15:37] <LjL> txomon, if you uninstall it (especially if you use --purge) it really should not leave any marks in the system.
[15:37] <Teddy1> How to see streams that use windows media player as player in firefox?!
[15:37] <john_doe_jr> does anyone know how to unset an environment variable in ubuntu?
[15:37] <Tucks> #ubuntu-offtopic for general discussions! hooray, I found it!
[15:37] <dr_willis> john_doe_jr:  if you are lucky - you could cut/paste the stream url into vlc, or some other players and they may work.
[15:37] <DinoMuffin> !ch | Psych
[15:38] <Teddy1> !cmd
[15:38] <Teddy1> !commands
[15:38] <john_doe_jr> dr_willis, were you talking to me?
[15:38] <mneptok> happyblue: the USB Creator app has always worked well for me, and was simple enough to use that i did not have to seek advice on getting a USB stick to boot. ;)
[15:38] <Psych> i dont speak german ..
[15:38] <dr_willis> john_doe_jr:  or try the various vlc-firefox plugin, or totem firefox plugin, or some otehrs. (i tend to cut/paste)
[15:38] <dr_willis> john_doe_jr:  i got on the wrong line. :)
[15:38] <Teddy1> its not german
[15:38] <Teddy1> :p
[15:38] <dr_willis> that was for Teddy1
[15:38] <epron> one more thing. Although I've enabled ssh rate limiting with ufw, I see quite a lot of failed password from sshd and the same ip in auth.log
[15:38] <Teddy1> it was both of us
[15:38] <Psych> i have understand xDD but the language is german xD
[15:39] <jdhfr> it was german
[15:39] <happyblue> mneptok I wonder if my live-cd that iam using is just screwed
[15:39] <epron> and also cat ufw.log | grep limit is always null
[15:39] <dr_willis> john_doe_jr:  export foo=""  (i think) to unset
[15:39] <Teddy1> dr_willis:  oh i didnt see you write that
[15:39] <mneptok> happyblue: or the USB media you're using is nearing EOL
[15:39] <prower> epron: probably just drive-by scripts trying to brute force their way in, i changed the default port for ssh and never saw any failed attempts again except for my own
[15:40] <epron> prower: I know, but ufw is supposed to rate limit them
[15:40] <Kartagis> dr_willis: I can play sounds but not input. where do I look?
[15:40] <epron> i still get > 15-15 entries per ip in a 2 minutes timespan
[15:40] <happyblue> mneptok but besides that problem, I cant install any programmes during my live-session, so theres something wrong with that
[15:40] <Teddy1> dr_willis:  I dont havent had so much good times with vlc in the browser(in windows or ubuntu)
[15:40] <john_doe_jr> dr_willis, that sets it
[15:41] <DinoMuffin> epron: most effective way to reduce failed attempts is to move sshd to a non-standard port
[15:41] <prower> epron: hmm...not sure what to tell you there i've never set up rate limiting...maybe there's an option in sshd_config that would do the job
[15:41] <happyblue> mneptok does not matter if its a small or a large programme
[15:41] <john_doe_jr> What kind of problems are you having w/ VLC...I know a lot about this type of thing?
[15:41] <happyblue> mneptok seems like dpkg has got some problem
[15:42] <nabeel> hi
[15:42] <DinoMuffin> epron: yo
[15:42] <DinoMuffin> woops
[15:42] <Psych> xD
[15:42] <epron> I see... yeah it sounds ok to change the default ssh port
[15:42] <Teddy1>  john_doe_jr. its not with vlc, but it is a stream from tv, but they use only and onlys support windows media player
[15:42] <epron> I'll have to change some deployment scripts though
[15:42] <epron> sigh..
[15:42] <Teddy1> cant get it to work with vlc
[15:43] <epron> one more thing... is it ok to just rm -rf .log and .log.1 ?
[15:43] <DinoMuffin> why
[15:44] <Teddy1> john_doe_jr http://www.nrk.no/nett-tv/direkte/nrk1/
[15:44] <Teddy1> thats the url to the streams
[15:44] <epron> DinoMuffin: was why for me?
[15:44] <DinoMuffin> epron: yeah
[15:44] <Teddy1> they stream lillyhammer today(episode 2)
[15:44] <Teddy1> if someone have seen it
[15:44] <epron> i don't want /var/log filled with logs
[15:44] <epron> plus i want to keep track of some stuff
[15:44] <DinoMuffin> epron: uhh
[15:45] <epron> it's been some time since i did some administration
[15:45] <epron> and this is our production server
[15:45] <epron> i need to keep track of some stuff
[15:45] <DinoMuffin> epron: well, you can remove the log if you want. linux will just make another one
[15:45] <auronandace> epron: that is the point of /var/log/ to keep logs
[15:45] <DinoMuffin> epron: most of the time my logs don't ever get over 15MBs or so
[15:45] <epron> ok
[15:45] <DinoMuffin> for the entire folder
[15:45] <john_doe_jr> Teddy1, you probably need chromium or chrome with non-free installed
[15:46] <epron> what's the limit before they get gz'ed
[15:46] <Teddy1> epron:  the logs should be logging veeery much to be start using your hdd
[15:46] <Teddy1> john_doe_jr:  doe you happen to know the commands in your head?
[15:47] <DinoMuffin> epron: IIRC the log files are managed by logrotate cron
[15:47] <scwizard> I want to run this at startup: sudo play start /path/to/play-application/ --%prod"
[15:47] <Teddy1> is it sudo apt-get chromium non-free
[15:47] <Teddy1> _
[15:47] <Teddy1> ?
[15:47] <DinoMuffin> epron: the limits are somewhere in /etc/
[15:47] <scwizard> what do I put in the "exec" line of my play.conf in my init folder?
[15:47] <scwizard> */etc/init
[15:47] <Psych> it | ubuntu
[15:47] <DinoMuffin> epron: /etc/logrotate.conf
[15:47] <john_doe_jr> Teddy1, just a sec
[15:48] <Teddy1> and then apt-get install chromium? or?
[15:48] <Seppoz_work> im wondering why cylinders=$(fdisk -l $DEVICE | grep cylinders | head -n1 | cut -d',' -f3 | cut -d' ' -f2) works on ubuntu 10 but not on 11, is there anything im doing wrong?
[15:48] <auronandace> !info chromium-browser | Teddy1
[15:48] <Seppoz_work> used in a script
[15:48] <epron> DinoMuffin: ok thank you very much
[15:48] <DinoMuffin> epron: no prob
[15:48] <sds> When booting from the CD, which config file controls the options displayed in the menu (try, install)? i would actually like to remove the install option.
[15:48] <john_doe_jr> sudo apt-get install chromium-browser chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-nonfree
[15:48] <scwizard> this should init service thingy howsit is confusing the heck out of me, I even read the whole man init(5) and I still don't know how to approach this
[15:49] <sipior> Seppoz_work: investigate each stage of the pipe, and figure out which part changed.
[15:49] <Seppoz_work> sipior: the pipe is fine
[15:49] <john_doe_jr> Teddy1, sudo apt-get install chromium-browser chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-nonfree
[15:49] <auronandace> !upstart | scwizard
[15:49] <sipior> Seppoz_work: obviously not.
[15:49] <Teddy1> john_doe_jr: thnx i try
[15:50] <Seppoz_work> echo $(fdisk -l $DEVICE | grep cylinders | head -n1 | cut -d',' -f3 | cut -d' ' -f2)                   4865
[15:50] <scwizard> auronandace, I know what upstart is, and I'd like some help using it
[15:50] <Seppoz_work> sipior: but the output is just what i want
[15:50] <sipior> Seppoz_work: then what's the problem?
[15:50] <Seppoz_work> its not working in a script
[15:50] <Teddy1> john_doe_jr:  i got: Reading package lists... Done
[15:50] <Teddy1> Building dependency tree
[15:50] <Teddy1> Reading state information... Done
[15:50] <Teddy1> E: Unable to locate package chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-nonfree
[15:51] <jeagle> Good day to everyone! I have a quick question. to output a string of text to a txt file. it's "echo 'text goes here' > logfile.txt" how would I go about apending the next echo string to the next line?
[15:51] <sipior> jeagle: ">>"
[15:51] <auronandace> scwizard: sorry, i thought you were trying to get an init system working and weren't aware that ubuntu uses upstart (not sysv)
[15:51] <Seppoz_work> http://pastebin.com/YbNzFuY8 prints Cylinder:  - Heads:  - Sectors:  - Blocksize:
[15:51] <jeagle> sipior: Thanks! I'll give it a shot! ^-^
[15:51] <Jjon> Yo
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[15:52] <Jjon> What would you guys say is the most lightweight OS?
[15:52] <scwizard> auronandace, why would I be making a play.conf in /etc/init if I was trying to do things the sysv way?
[15:52] <Jjon> I could post my specs, they're bad
[15:52] <jatt> android
[15:52] <bazhang> Jjon, lubuntu
[15:52] <jeagle> sipior: Thanks dude! you are the best! :D
[15:52] <bazhang> jatt, thats off topic for here
[15:52] <Seppoz_work> whats the difference between bash of ubuntu 10 and 11?
[15:52] <mneptok> Jjon: that question is not directly related to Ubuntu support. please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:53] <bazhang> !lubuntu | Jjon
[15:53] <Jjon> aah, lxde, I don't know about that one.. Thanks anyways guys
[15:53] <jdhfr> lubuntu is not lighter
[15:53] <jdhfr> you need some special distro
[15:54] <Oer> jdhfr, yes it is lighter.
[15:54] <sipior> Seppoz_work: you're running the script with superuser privileges, right?
[15:54] <Seppoz_work> yes
[15:54] <john_doe_jr> Teddy1, did it work?
[15:54] <LjL> jdhfr: it is lighter, please do not spread misinformation
[15:54] <Seppoz_work> is that a problem? was the same before tho
[15:54] <LjL> !requirements > jdhfr
[15:54] <mneptok> !offtopic
[15:54] <romeyro> hello guys, i m trying to make work compiz+emerald on xfce4 but i don't know for which reason i get the following errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/825225/
[15:55] <sipior> Seppoz_work: well, it works fine here.
[15:55] <Seppoz_work> is #!/bin/bash ok?
[15:55] <Tucks> how do I do a specific search for my native apps on Xubuntu 11.10 in the command line?  I have some command line apps and tools that are not listed in my Applications Menu.
[15:55] <sipior> Seppoz_work: yes. if you insert a "sudo" in front of "fdisk", does it work?
[15:56] <Seppoz_work> well i execue the script as root
[15:56] <auronandace> romeyro: its --replace (not -replace)
[15:56] <thetinyjesus> Does anyone know if there is a workaround for getting Ios 5 devices synced?
[15:56] <sipior> Seppoz_work: echo each part of the pipe, and see where it goes pear-shaped.
[15:56] <john_doe_jr> Teddy1, ?????
[15:57] <Teddy1> john_DOE_JR: NO, i sendt you a pm  with the error
[15:57] <Teddy1> ops, sorry the upper case
[15:58] <romeyro> auronandace, oh thank you :D
[15:58] <auronandace> romeyro: no worries :)
[15:59]  * jdhfr thinks that 512 MB RAM is anything but lightweight
[15:59] <thetinyjesus> Does anyone know about getting Ios 5 devices working?
[16:00] <mongy> romeyro, no need for sudo either.
[16:00] <Seppoz_work> if i enter fdisk -l /dev/sdc my card ejects
[16:00] <Seppoz_work> and mouts again
[16:02] <romeyro> auronandace, looks like its working but on the terminal the commande stopped at setting update http://paste.ubuntu.com/825238/ I think its not normal
[16:02] <Seppoz_work> sniper seems that was some bug in the card reader, thanks for the help tho
[16:03] <auronandace> romeyro: like mongy said, don't use sudo
[16:04] <auronandace> romeyro: apart from that you can close  the terminal
[16:05] <auronandace> romeyro: if you place && at the end it should push it to the background and free up the terminal (i think its &&, either that or just one &)
[16:05] <sipior> auronandace: just one :-)
[16:06] <auronandace> sipior: ah, thanks
[16:08] <Kartagis> can you help me please? I've got no audido now, in or out
[16:08] <romeyro_> auronandace, even when i try without sudo he stop at Setting update"prev_key" :S
[16:08] <auronandace> romeyro_: have you add the & at the end?
[16:09] <romeyro_> auronandace, no, what i did is compiz --replace ccp
[16:09] <auronandace> romeyro_: try: compiz --replace ccp &
[16:10] <Oer> !sound | Kartagis
[16:10] <Seppoz_work> did something changed with fdisk? it doesnt seem to use sectores anymore as the default size
[16:10] <memyself> is ubuntu more easily to be hack into when using unsecured free wireless connection ?
[16:11] <bazhang> memyself, no?
[16:11] <sandy19> hello ubuntu
[16:11] <sandy19> i want to learn php
[16:11] <esuave> memyself: unless your allowing people to connect to your machine with no authentication.
[16:11] <memyself> comparing to windows is ubuntu more easily to be hacked ?
[16:12] <sandy19> so what should i install
[16:12] <sandy19> ?
[16:12] <auronandace> memyself: security isn't that simple
[16:12] <esuave> sandy19: http://php.net
[16:12] <bazhang> !ot | memyself
[16:12] <auronandace> memyself: perhaps you should define "hacked"
[16:12] <sandy19> thnx esuave looking at that :)
[16:12] <zippytech> when I copy a say 2 gig file to a usb drive, my desktop almost becomes unresponsive till the copy is done. does any one else have that problem
[16:12] <memyself> i'm worry about using ubuntu as it has no firewall
[16:13] <jdhfr> zippytech: that problem is a trademark of linux
[16:13] <LjL> !firewall | memyself
[16:13] <bazhang> !iptables | memyself
[16:13] <ChrisGagnon> zippytech: if you use the deadline scheduler thaat problem doesn't happen
[16:13] <LjL> memyself: you should never really use an unsecured wifi connection, anyway. it's a very bad idea.
[16:14] <jdhfr> only reach people can afford secure wireless
[16:14] <zippytech> thanks I will look into that
[16:14] <bazhang> jdhfr, thats enough
[16:14] <memyself> ljl , how bad is using unsecured wifi connection ? cos most free wifi at fastfood restarant are unsecured
[16:14] <auronandace> jdhfr: don't talk nonsense
[16:14] <sipior> memyself: you'll want to look into a decent vpn solution for open access points.
[16:14] <LjL> memyself: well, anyone can see the data you're sending and receiving.
[16:15] <bazhang> jdhfr, editorializing and offtopic commentary in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:15] <LjL> memyself: so you should absolutely *never* send plaintext passwords over unsecured wifi, for one thing
[16:15] <ChrisGagnon> zippytech: use 'echo deadline | sudo tee /sys/block/<your block device here IE: sda>/queue/scheduler' to switch to deadline
[16:15] <romeyro__> auronandace, sorry if i m taking time to answer its because my computer froze up everytime i click on the terminal and i had to turn it off :S. Same thing happened with compiz --replace ccp &
[16:16] <memyself> is it encrypted when you use unsecured wifi to browse those site with https ?
[16:16] <mneptok> memyself: yes
[16:16] <LjL> memyself: yes, https is encrypted, but other things are not
[16:17] <esuave> memyself: are there really hackers hanging out at the local fast food joint there?
[16:17] <jpds> esuave: You never know.
[16:17] <memyself> i'm worry unsecured wifi will not protect my laptop when other side of the net user attack me
[16:18] <DinoMuffin> it's just a general a security risk
[16:18] <auronandace> romeyro__: sorry, i stopped using compiz a while ago (always been too buggy for me on xfce)
[16:18] <LjL> memyself: you're right to worry. if you're really set on using unsecured wifi, at least enable a firewall.
[16:18] <DinoMuffin> anyone, ANYONE, with a packet sniffer can pull all the non encrypted data
[16:18] <mneptok> esuave: in a big city, you have at least 100 people living and working within range of a storefront. they're there all day. roll those dice.
[16:18] <auronandace> romeyro__: so my compiz knowege is rather old
[16:19] <memyself> i just installed ubuntu without enabling any firewall as some say there no such need
[16:20] <romeyro__> auronandace, haha its ok, i m checking on google. Thank you for your help :)
[16:20] <DinoMuffin> memyself: it's not in most cases
[16:20] <auronandace> memyself: most regular users will likely never need to touch the firewall
[16:20] <DinoMuffin> memyself: if you're on your own private LAN behind a router, you're fine
[16:20] <memyself> it's not ? meaning ?
[16:21] <memyself> so now the question is should i or shouldn't i configure firewall ?
[16:21] <LjL> memyself: there is no need if you're behind a router like most people are. but if you're going to use unsecured wifi, i'd say there is a need.
[16:21] <mgreenway> I am trying to updrade to a newer kernel
[16:21] <LjL> memyself: if you ask me, yes you should
[16:21] <esuave> memyself: yeah i would enable firewall too
[16:21] <mgreenway> there doesn't seem to be testing repos like in debian
[16:22] <jpds> memyself: All you need to do is: sudo ufw enable
[16:22] <memyself> i just read something like ubuntu initially close all port so there's really no need to do anyting
[16:22] <jpds> memyself: Yes, but you might install something that will open a port.
[16:22] <memyself> and some say ufw is outdate no more update
[16:22] <jpds> memyself: Whay?
[16:23] <mgreenway> how would I install a kernel like 3.1.0 are there ubuntu testing repos?
[16:23] <tado> hey folks! does anyone know how to set thunderbird's date format? it does not follow my system settings...
[16:23] <nice11> hi how are you/
[16:23] <memyself> it's obselete , the developer dump it
[16:23] <jpds> memyself: No.
[16:23] <Oer> memyself, don't listen to "some", he has it wrong.
[16:24] <auronandace> memyself: maybe it would be helpful to tell us where you're getting your info from
[16:24] <Offlein> I am using UFW and I would like to forward all incoming traffic [on a specific port] hitting this computer to another computer/port on this computer's network. I guess using Masquerading. Does anyone know how to do this?
[16:24] <memyself> so enabling the firewall just by entering ufw enable and then that's all no configuration required ?
[16:24] <Boreeas> Hey, my Ubuntu partition only has 5 GB of free space left. The drive has about 50 GB of unallocated space left, how to I extend my partition to use this space?
[16:25] <memyself> for the ufw info , i guess i got it from google
[16:25] <LjL> Boreeas: use gparted from a live CD (and have a backup)
[16:25] <auronandace> memyself: google is a search engine, google led you to?
[16:26] <zaya> boreeas just make sure to back up what you want just incase
[16:26] <Boreeas> No easy way to do it? Alright then
[16:26] <abys> can somebody tell me what packages ubuntu is using to set up wireless ?
[16:26] <sipior> Boreeas: before you do that, make sure the reserved block percentage on that partition is set to zero: "sudo /sbintune2fs -m 0 /dev/<device>". should give you five percent of the volume back.
[16:27] <sipior> Boreeas: sorry: "/sbin/tune2fs"
[16:27] <LjL> sipior: err, is that a really good idea though?
[16:27] <sipior> LjL: yes, it is.
[16:27] <Boreeas> So, burn Gparted on a disk (does a flashdrive work too, if the bios can boot from a flashdrive) and then modify the partittion?
[16:27] <tado> how do i open pgp encrypted files with nautilus? (or how do i encrypt new files?)... i read here that seahorse is no longer working https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/seahorse-plugins/+bug/796752/
[16:27] <Boreeas> sipior: Sorry, I didn't understand that. What is that going to do?
[16:28] <sipior> LjL: reserved blocks is an ancient defense mechanism, which wastes tens of gigabytes on modern drives. time to bury it.
[16:28] <gandhijee_> hey, what do i need to install in the base chroot ubuntu to have it setup a different hostname for itself, and get the color and auto-complete stuff going on?
[16:28] <LjL> sipior: is there a replacement for it, though?
[16:29] <sipior> LjL: none is really required.
[16:29] <memyself> Firewall is active and enabled on system startup , means i got the ufw start up already or i need to restart?
[16:30] <esuave> looking for some load testing solutions to test some of my ubuntu 8 servers.. anyone know of anything good?
[16:30] <memyself> ooh , it's firestarter that is obselete
[16:30] <sipior> Boreeas: ext filesystem creation generally reserves a small portion of disk block for exclusive access of the superuser. this is old-fashioned, but surprisingly common even on modern machines. turn it off, and get a fair bit of space back.
[16:30] <sipior> Boreeas: you'll still want to claim that unused 50GB, but this might take some of the pressure off.
[16:31] <Boreeas> sipior: So /dev/<device> would be the ubuntu filesystem, not the unallocated? Alright, I'll do that, thanks
[16:32] <gandhijee_> sipior, the reason it still exists is so that the system still has space for log files... if that particular volume isn't being used for any logging use tune2fs to change the storage amount
[16:32] <sipior> Boreeas: yep, the partition you want to modify.
[16:32] <sipior> gandhijee_: no, that's not why.
[16:32] <gandhijee_> then why
[16:32] <LjL> Boreeas: please keep in mind that the operation sipior is suggesting *does* take away the capability for root processes to access reserved blocks, which might impair those processes' ability to do their work when the disk is full. if you do that, be aware of the consequences.
[16:32] <sipior> gandhijee_: this isn't the 80's.
[16:32] <gandhijee_> so you don't keep log files for you systems?
[16:32] <gandhijee_> i know its save my butt before.
[16:32] <sipior> gandhijee_: that's nice.
[16:33] <gandhijee_> so you still haven't given a valid reason....
[16:35] <sipior> gandhijee_: i have no interest in validating my opinions to you. do what you want, as i will.
[16:35] <LjL> sipior: the problem is not what you do but what you recommend to people in this channel.
[16:35] <gandhijee_> pretty much
[16:36] <gandhijee_> if you have a good reason for it, then please share, otherwise, don't just say this is what it is.
[16:36] <sipior> LjL: spare me your tedious mewling, i'm not interested in a discussion.
[16:36] <tado> anyone has good suggestions on how to open a pgp encrypted file in nautilus?
[16:36] <llutz> tune2fs -m1 /dev/foo (still too much) as a compromise. those 5% default is ...
[16:37] <Sicp> please see this thread, http://askubuntu.com/questions/76712/setting-nautilus-open-terminal-to-launch-terminator-rather-than-gnome-terminal
[16:37] <Sicp> look at the first answer, I cannot find anything called "dconf-tools" in my repositories. All I can find is "dconf" and it doesn't have a "gsettings" tool with it
[16:37] <sipior> llutz: that is indeed fair, at least on /. still, when has that been a problem in the last decade? :-)
[16:38] <llutz> sipior: that root-reserved blocks only make sense on / or /tmp or /var, but is pretty nonsense on all other data-fs
[16:38] <sipior> llutz: even then, i have reservations (ahem)
[16:40] <Sicp> why do I need dconf-tools anyway
[16:40] <Sicp> can't I change that value from gconf-editor?
[16:40] <pfifo> llutz, what about fragmentation concerns?
[16:40] <Sicp> I just follow the package names
[16:41] <h00k> Sicp: because new things are using dconf, if i recall correctly
[16:41] <Sicp> new? I'm on 10.04
[16:41] <Sicp> still considered new?
[16:41] <sipior> pfifo: that becomes an issue above 85%-90% usage. you surely wouldn't reserve that much?
[16:42] <pfifo> sipior, I would reserver 10-15 sure, but I dont usually use my whole partitions
[16:42] <Sicp> I will just uninstall nautilus-open-in-terminal and reinstall it
[16:42] <Sicp> it should adapt to the new environment variables
[16:43] <kronnix> ge
[16:43] <h00k> Sicp: I'm looking for a relevant article
[16:43] <kronnix> yi
[16:43] <Sicp> I already posted one above, h00k
[16:43] <kronnix> maycom
[16:43] <Sicp> but I don't have "dconf-tools" in my repos
[16:43] <Sicp> here it is, h00k, http://askubuntu.com/questions/76712/setting-nautilus-open-terminal-to-launch-terminator-rather-than-gnome-terminal
[16:43] <h00k> Sicp: was it the http://askubuntu.com/questions/91403/when-to-use-gconf-vs-dconf ?
[16:43] <h00k> Sicp: ah, okay.
[16:45] <h00k> Sicp: oh, those gsettings settings, those can go directly in a terminal
[16:45] <Sicp> without the gsettings directive?
[16:45] <infeeeee> hello i have loading problem, the ubuntu title appears, but the five dots remain red
[16:45] <Sicp> because it doesn't recognize "gsettings"
[16:45] <h00k> Sicp: I gotcha. I am now following
[16:46] <pfifo> infeeeee, turn off the boot splash to get an error message if there is one
[16:46] <Sicp> under the gconf-editor > / > desktop > applications > terminal > I've set the exec and exec_arg just like I wanted, I had set them before in Preferred Applications and they took effect in gconf-editor of course
[16:47] <h00k> Sicp: I don't have 10.04 box handy, try installing dconf and using the gsettings directive
[16:47] <Sicp> I uninstalled nautilus-open-in-terminal and I'm going to restart nautilus
[16:47] <Sicp> it didn't work, h00k
[16:47] <h00k> Sicp: okay.
[16:47] <Sicp> brb
[16:48] <Schrodinger`Cat> hey
[16:48] <Schrodinger`Cat> hey i need to install sykpe 2.1.0.81-1 because 2.2 work very bad on my computer. i have add the good line in sources.list, and now "apt-cache show skype" show to me 2 differents versions of skype whith the same "package name", how i can install the 2.1.0.81-1 ? tanks
[16:49] <LjL> Schrodinger`Cat: sudo apt-get install skype=2.1.0.81-1   however it will be replaced with the newer version if it's in a repo that you have enabled, as soon as you dist-upgrade.
[16:49] <auronandace> !pinning | Schrodinger`Cat
[16:50] <Sicp> it still doesn't work, I guess nautilus-open-terminal just takes gnome-terminal as the default
[16:50] <Sicp> I need those dconf-tools
[16:51] <pfifo> !info dconf-tools
[16:51] <pfifo> sudo apt-get install dconf-tools
[16:53] <infeeeee> how can i turn off the bootsplash?
[16:53] <bazhang> infeeeee, permanently? or just the once
[16:53] <pfifo> infeeeee, at the grub menu press 'e' and delete the 'quiet splash' part of the kernel line
[16:53] <infeeeee> bazhang: permanently
[16:54] <bazhang> !nox | infeeeee this one?
[16:54] <Schrodinger`Cat> thanks auronandace ubottu LjL
[16:54] <goldcityman> hello, i have ubuntu 9.10, how can i know the hardware of pc?
[16:54] <bazhang> goldcityman, sudo lshw
[16:54] <jpds> goldcityman: lshw
[16:54] <goldcityman> ok thanks
[16:56] <Syco54645_work> anyone using thunderbird with gnome-shell? i am trying to find a way to do persistant email alerts. i keep missing emails at work.
[16:57] <pfifo> Is there anyway I can configure since ubuntu 10.04?
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> pfifo  configure what exactly?
[17:00] <Guest65013> Hi people
[17:00] <Guest65013> Anyone here use en17?
[17:01] <DaniG2k> guys I'm trying to play TripleA but when I try to run it I get an error that says
[17:02] <DaniG2k> Could not find Java.
[17:02] <DaniG2k> You must have Java installed and in your path.
[17:02] <MonkeyDust> DaniG2k  install open jdk, not sun-jdk
[17:02] <Guest65013> Use synaptic and install java?
[17:02] <DaniG2k> i have openjdk installed already
[17:03] <Guest65013> <<  /win1 >>
[17:03] <Guest65013> oops
[17:05] <DaniG2k> MonkeyDust: could it be that it requires version 7? but i don't think so...
[17:06] <Guest65013> Guys anyone here has used enlightenment?
[17:06] <Guest65013> Can't get net to work in En17
[17:07] <pfifo> !anybody | Guest65013
[17:07] <three18ti> what would cause the umask of a directory not to show the `d` flag when `ls -la`?
[17:08] <Guest65013> !details
[17:08] <llutz> three18ti: what does it show? l for link?
[17:09] <three18ti> llutz, just a `-` it's not a link.
[17:09] <Guest65013> I have a problem with enlightenment. I installed it today and my wifi is not working in it.
[17:09] <pfifo> !work | Guest65013
[17:10] <pikaciu> it is on strike!!!
[17:11] <llutz> three18ti: "stat yourdir"   says what?
[17:11] <pfifo> in that case, simply coerce its union delegate
[17:11] <pikaciu> :-))))
[17:12] <three18ti> llutz http://pastebin.com/qyjbqmdW
[17:12] <llutz> three18ti: so it's a regular file and not a dir
[17:15] <three18ti> llutz, that's the problem, it is indeed a directory but the FS sees it as a file.
[17:15] <micutzu> hy all
[17:15] <llutz> three18ti: fsck
[17:15] <KayGridley> afternoon all
[17:15] <micutzu> hy
[17:16] <scwizard> netstat tells me that tomcat is listening on port 5005 for remote debugging, just like I want it to
[17:16] <KayGridley> anyone able to help getting an ubuntu server to talk to the rest of the network it's sitting as part of please?
[17:16] <micutzu> i'm sorry does counter-strike work on Xubuntu 11.10?
[17:16] <scwizard> however when I nmap the tomcat server from another place, it says that only ports 22 and 8080 are open
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> micutzu  wrong channel
[17:16] <three18ti> llutz, thanks.
[17:17] <micutzu> ok so where sould i go?
[17:17] <scwizard> (and naturally I'm having difficulties remote debugging tomcat)
[17:17] <MonkeyDust> !info tomcat
[17:17] <auronandace> !appdb | micutzu
[17:17] <scwizard> MonkeyDust, it's a ubuntu question, sorta like "if an applicaiton is listening on a port, why can't I conect to it on that port"
[17:17] <micutzu> thanx
[17:18] <scwizard> and you mean
[17:18] <scwizard> !info tomcat6
[17:18] <KayGridley> my default gateway is unreachable if anyone can help
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> KayGridley  how are you online? via the gateway?
[17:19] <cromag> is there a channel regarding webhosting ?
[17:19] <scwizard> cromag: #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[17:20] <damo22> how do u tell if your kernel is 64 bit
[17:20] <auronandace> damo22: uname -a
[17:20] <Polah> damo22: Run uname -i. If it's 64-bit it will output x86_64.
[17:20] <KayGridley> MonkeyDust: online via a windows netbook running wireless onto the same network as the server, so the gateway is working
[17:21] <damo22> 2.6.32-312-ec2 #24-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 7 18:31:34 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[17:21] <BlouBlou> damo22: that's not 64
[17:21] <auronandace> damo22: thats 32bit
[17:21] <damo22> good news
[17:22] <KayGridley> I used sudo route add gw (ip address) eth0
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> KayGridley  so the gateway *is* reachabe, but not from your ubuntu pc? is it wifi or with cable?
[17:22] <damo22> but the endianness of that machine is different to mine i think
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> reachable*
[17:22] <KayGridley> the ubuntu server is cable, both ends flashing nicely
[17:22] <damo22> how do i test endianness
[17:22] <KayGridley> thanks btw :)
[17:22] <winnie667> hello! what packages am i missing if nm-applet refuses to ask for a keyring password when connection to an encrypted wifi?
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> KayGridley  can you ping the gateway from your ubuntu pc?
[17:23] <iggymydog> i am runni9ng ubuntu on an olc computer dell demension 4600 with a pemtium 4 and it says my hard disk is failing
[17:23] <iggymydog> my computer is also very slow
[17:23] <iggymydog> can someone help me?
[17:23] <KayGridley> MonkeyDust no I get "Network is unreachable"
[17:23] <winnie667> i hage network-manager-gnome gnome-keyring and libpam-gnome-keyring installed
[17:23] <iggymydog> i am runni9ng ubuntu on an olc computer dell demension 4600 with a pemtium 4 and it says my hard disk is failing
[17:23] <KayGridley> sounding like a dead cable do you think?
[17:24] <damo22> demension is right
[17:24] <MonkeyDust> KayGridley  does the ubuntu pc have a static ip address or dynamic (dhcp)?
[17:24] <pikaciu> KayGridley: the led on the router is  on ?
[17:24] <chaos_zero> hello, i have ubuntu server instaled...new to using just  the cli... I have 6 wired connections and one wireless. I want to configure so that the wireless is bridged between the server and five of the wired connections. the last wired connection is another slower connection that i want to activate only if the wireless fails/disonnects. how hard is this to do?
[17:24] <winnie667> iggymydog: it won't help to repeat your question, what do you expect us to do? send you a new HD? If your system informs you that your HD is failing then that's what's happening
[17:24] <KayGridley> MonkeyDust I've set it to static as it's part of a rack of other servers
[17:25] <iggymydog> yes i know.......... i expect you to help me solve it
[17:25] <KayGridley> pikaciu aye, well the 40+ on the switch are :) including the ones linked into the server I'm trying ot connect
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> KayGridley  has it worked before? is the network correct, in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[17:25] <Zinkyr> salut
[17:25] <iggymydog> my friend doesent have a hard drive he runs ubuntu from his dickdrive
[17:25] <Polah>  iggymydog: It means your hard drive is physically failing. You'll need to get a new hard drive.
[17:25] <pra7eek_> Guys I installed the enlightenment desktop environment and my net does not work in it. I can't connect to the wifi network. Any solutions?
[17:25] <Zinkyr> English ?
[17:25] <damo22> iggymydog: sounds like you need a new dickdrive
[17:25] <iggymydog> yes i know i need a new one....
[17:26] <scarleo> damaltor, :D dickdrive
[17:26] <iggymydog> dickdrive?
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> language
[17:26] <pikaciu> KayGridley: what 's the gateway ip ?  192.168.1.1  ?
[17:26] <KayGridley> MonkeyDust: no, this is the first time its been installed as an ubuntu server, previous to this week it was a defunct spare windows server that ws powered down
[17:26] <Polah> iggymydog: So what do you need us to help you with?
[17:26] <iggymydog> is there a way to turn a cd drive into a hard drive
[17:26] <KayGridley> 100.104.0.253
[17:26] <damo22> iggymydog: yes, hit it with a hammer and it becomes hard
[17:27] <Polah> iggymydog: No. Unless you want to store all your data discs and swap them out all the time.
[17:27] <iggymydog> Polah: i need some way to make my computer work without useing a hard drive
[17:27] <KayGridley> but I suspect that is an internal
[17:27] <KayGridley> not external
[17:27] <MonkeyDust> KayGridley  what's the outcome of dig|grep SERVER ?
[17:27] <iggymydog> ok........
[17:27] <KayGridley> MonkeyDust what does that do?
[17:27] <KayGridley> sorry v. new to ubuntu
[17:27] <iggymydog> Polah: then could you help me turn my other computer into a linux
[17:27] <MonkeyDust> KayGridley  to know your gateway's address
[17:27] <iggymydog> Polah: its already a puppy linux but i cant get uvb=buntu on it
[17:27] <Polah> iggymydog: Just buy a new hard drive for your laptop and replace the failing drive...
[17:28] <mister2> hey guys, is there a way to tell evince to change whether a cover page is by itself in dual view?
[17:28] <iggymydog> Polah:its a desktop
[17:28] <KayGridley> ooh thats odd
[17:28] <KayGridley> MonkeyDust it puts a # between 2 and 53
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> ...
[17:28] <iggymydog> Polah: and besides im not looking to spend money thats not what i want
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> KayGridley  what's the complete line?
[17:29] <meco> I'm looking for something to which I can simply provide a file of ping replies and it'll do the rest by itself giving me a nice graphical output...
[17:29] <chaos_zero> no ideas? =P
[17:29] <KayGridley> ;; SERVER: 100.104.0.2#53(100.104.0.2)
[17:29] <Polah> chaos_zero, about what?
[17:29] <chaos_zero> oh, ill put it once more
[17:29] <chaos_zero> hello, i have ubuntu server instaled...new to using just  the cli... I have 6 wired connections and one wireless. I want to configure so that the wireless is bridged between the server and five of the wired connections. the last wired connection is another slower connection that i want to activate only if the wireless fails/disonnects. how hard is this to do?
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> KayGridley  the gateway's address is 100.104.0.2
[17:29] <Polah> iggymydog: What errors do you get when attempting to install Ubuntu on your other system?
[17:29] <mister2> anyone? hey guys, is there a way to tell evince to change whether a cover page is by itself in dual view?
[17:30] <iggymydog>  i have a dell inspron 530 with intel duo core 2 that was windows vista.......i changed it to puppylinux running puppy from the diskdrive the hard drive is tottaly empty what do i do? ive tried installing ubuntu before but couldent do it
[17:30] <llutz> MonkeyDust: thats the nameserver, not the gateway
[17:30] <MonkeyDust> ok
[17:30] <llutz> MonkeyDust: they _can_ be identical, but its not a must
[17:30] <Polah> iggymydog, what do you mean "couldn't do it"? Did you get errors, failure to boot, or what?
[17:30] <iggymydog> ubuntu just wouldent run.....it would come up on the desktop but no icons or enything would come up and it would freeze there
[17:30] <KayGridley> llutz: they are different on this network
[17:30] <iggymydog> i couldent evin see a mouse
[17:30] <Polah> iggymydog, are you sure the image you downloaded was correct and your burn to disc/USB drive was correct?
[17:31] <KayGridley> and .2 would be correct for one of the nameservers
[17:31] <chaos_zero> polah help meeeeee :)
[17:31] <pra7eek_> Guys I installed the enlightenment on my ubuntu 11.10 and now i can't connect to my wifi network. Any suggestions?
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> KayGridley  what's the outcome of grep name  /etc/resolv.conf ?
[17:32] <pikaciu> KayGridley: ping 100.104.0.2
[17:32] <KayGridley> nameserver 100.104.0.2
[17:32] <KayGridley> nameserver 100.104.0.5
[17:32] <iggymydog> yes
[17:32] <iggymydog> im sure it was correct
[17:32] <KayGridley> ooh can ping .2
[17:32] <Polah> chaos_zero, it's certainly possible although I don't know details of exactly how. This should be a good place to start: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[17:32] <iggymydog> Polah: i used it to install it on this computer
[17:33] <KayGridley> ok so not a dead cable then
[17:33] <Polah> iggymydog, was it burned to a disc or is it an image on a USB drive?
[17:33] <iggymydog> usb drive
[17:33] <chaos_zero> heard, will examine
[17:33] <Polah> iggymydog, what GPU do you have on the other system?
[17:34] <mister2> anyone? hey guys, is there a way to tell evince to change whether a cover page is by itself in dual view?
[17:34] <MonkeyDust> !info evince
[17:34] <iggymydog> Polah: gpu?
[17:35] <KayGridley> MonkeyDust was that to me?
[17:35] <Polah> iggymydog, graphics card. Did you buy your computer prebuilt? Do you have a model name for it?
[17:36] <iggymydog> its a dell inspron 530 it ran windows vista 64 bit just fine......
[17:36] <mister2> monkeydust: not too helpful
[17:36] <KayGridley> MonkeyDust and llutz thnx for the help, got to run, probably back tomorrow!
[17:36] <iggymydog> Polah:dell inspron 530 it ran windows vista 64 bit just fine
[17:36] <iggymydog> Polah:the graphics card can handel it
[17:38] <iggymydog> Polah: i have a ubuntu cd in it right now ready to boot imma try it
[17:38] <mazen_> Hi
[17:39] <mister2> anyone? hey guys, is there a way to tell evince to change whether a cover page is by itself in dual view? i'm googling and finding nothing... someone else had this issue but didn't have anything to say about how to fix it
[17:41] <mister2> !evince
[17:41] <troy-> i've installed ubuntu 11.10 - how can i encrypt the entire filesystem?
[17:41] <troy-> the alternative installer did not work for me
[17:42] <mneptok> troy-: you need to define encrypted space during manual partitioning of the alternate installation
[17:42] <meco> OK, what's the best approach for documenting the lousy quality of my ISP uplink, say over a 24-hour period? I'm thinking of saving the ping replies to a file and then creating a graphical output from that. Any easy way of doing this?
[17:43] <troy-> mneptok: the alt installer could not find the usb key
[17:43] <troy-> so i was forced to use the regular installer
[17:44] <pikaciu> meco: write a script and then libeoffice speadshhet to create a graphic
[17:44] <mneptok> troy-: i have no idea if the GUI installer supports LVM, as i always use the alternate.
[17:44] <meco> pikaciu: I can't code.
[17:44] <gridbag> why is the desktop so slow this release? Dash Home takes 1.5 seconds to show up. This is driving me bats.
[17:44] <meco> I was thinking there is probably an app made by someone already which will do this...
[17:44] <Pumpkin-> meco: investigate a package called smokeping. Gives you output like http://oss.oetiker.ch/smokeping-demo/?target=Customers.OP
[17:45] <gridbag>   well, maybe .5 secs now.
[17:45] <mneptok> troy-: the system you *did* install should have the USB Ctreator tool, and you can use that to put the -alternate .iso on USB media
[17:45] <meco> Pumpkin-: appreciate it
[17:45] <gridbag>   its as annoying as hell. all my apps take >2 secs to start the firs ttime.  Home Folder, xchat, etc.
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> gridbag  install preload, it loads the most frequently used programs faster
[17:53] <color> Does anyone know how to auto start csf?
[17:53] <mister2> anyone? hey guys, is there a way to tell evince to change whether a cover page is by itself in dual view? i'm googling and finding nothing... someone else had this issue but didn't have anything to say about how to fix it
[17:54] <module000> color: create an upstart script for it, use the sysV script that comes with it, or do it badly with rc.local.  take your pick
[17:54] <color> module000: cool thanks
[17:55] <color> module000: if you don't mind me asking what is a sysV script?
[17:56] <forever1> why does VLC player stutter when changing a song?
[17:56] <color> module000: all I see is perl scripts and bash..
[17:56] <module000> color: a sysV script is the type of script you find in /etc/init.d - generic unix start-up scripts. they are replaced in ubuntu by upstart, which uses scripts in /etc/init
[17:57] <module000> color: did you run the install script for csf?
[17:57] <color> module000: gotcha, but should I just make a softlink to the actual csf.pl script?
[17:57] <lea255ace> this a good place for help with a script?
[17:57] <Teddy1> best app for testing the local network security?
[17:57] <Teddy1> for 10.10
[17:58] <MonkeyDust> !best| Teddy1
[17:58] <Teddy1> !best network security test
[17:58] <module000> color: you shouldn't need to, did you run the installer script that came with csf?
[17:58] <Teddy1> dont know how to use that bot
[17:59] <color> module000: it looks like ther is a csf bash script in /etc/init.d/ already but it has the optionst o start
[17:59] <color> module000: it looks like ther is a csf bash script in /etc/init.d/ already but it has the optionst o start|stop|relaod
[17:59] <vlt> Hello. I installed oneiric via debootstrap and now get "kernel: cannot read proc file system: 1 - Operation not permitted." about 5e06 times a minute. Any idea how to fix this?
[17:59] <color> module000: yes..I think, I just did make && make install
[18:00] <module000> color: that's good, it means it installed it's own sysV script. now you would want to make a symlink to that in /etc/rc2.d    - try `ln -s /etc/init.d/csf /etc/rc2.d/S99csf`
[18:00] <module000> color: that would tell it to start last after you reboot
[18:01] <michael_44> Any one in here use Zorin?
[18:01] <vlt> !anyone | michael_44
[18:02] <lea255ace> how do I get cd working from within a script?
[18:02] <vlt> lea255ace: Just use it.
[18:03] <theadmin> lea255ace: It does work, however it will not change the directory after the script exits. That is, it does not propagate to parent shell. You can't change that.
[18:03] <color> module000: it looks like the symlink was created
[18:03] <michael_44> How do I change the effect of the window that I exit out off?  I see peaces flying every where.  Is there another eye candy?
[18:03] <module000> then you should be good
[18:03] <lea255ace> would it work to do $ source 'script.h'
[18:04] <color> module000: but unlike all of the other symlinks in the folder the new one I created is red...
[18:04] <Eren> why is herrie deleted from 11.10=
[18:04] <Eren> ?
[18:04] <michael_44> ok going to do some more research and reading.
[18:05] <module000> color: that means it is broken. are you sure there is a file at: /etc/init.d/csf
[18:05] <color> module000: oh, wait it looks like there is already a link to ../init.d/csf in there
[18:05] <color> module000: and yes it is broken :s sorry
[18:05] <module000> color: remove the one you made(the red one), if there is already one there you aer done
[18:05] <vlt> vlt: I think I booted an old kernel.
[18:05] <michael_44> hhmmm less see, how many people are in this chan.. And all I get talking to me is a BOT lol
[18:06] <lea255ace> exit
[18:06] <MonkeyDust> Eren  what's herrie exactly?
[18:06] <color> module000: to remove the symlink I would just delete it from the folder and it wont remove the binary?
[18:06] <color> module000: to remove the symlink I would just delete it from the folder and it wont remove the or script
[18:06] <module000> color: that's right, it will only remove the link
[18:06] <color> module000: thanks.
[18:07] <color> module000: I guess my next question would be why does it keep shutting down.. I figured it wasn't starting but looks like it stops.
[18:08] <Eren> MonkeyDust: minimalistic mp3/flac/ogg player
[18:08] <module000> color: can't help you there, check your syslog and possibly follow up with csf support
[18:08] <Eren> MonkeyDust: with audioscrobbler (last.fm) support
[18:08] <Eren> I'm really unhappy about it as herrie is a really useful program
[18:09] <color> module000: cool, thanks for all the help.
[18:10] <Combatjuan> Maybe this is a silly question but when I run 'df' it shows several temporary filesystems including 'tmpfs - /lib/init/rw', 'varrun - /var/run', 'varlock - /var/lock', 'udev - /dev', and 'tmpfs - /dev/shm'.  Each shows sized as 7.8G.  Is that memory unavailable for other uses?
[18:10] <color> module000: have you ever used tmux?
[18:10] <module000> color: no i haven't
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> or byobu <3
[18:12] <metaflops> part
[18:14] <color> module000: it is kinda cool if don't have X.. it splits the tty's in half..Sorry for being a noob but I would like to learn all I can about linux!
[18:14] <Guest41763> madagascar 2
[18:14] <trism> color: you can also detach it and reattach it later, so it is great over ssh
[18:15] <color> trism: are you talking about tmux or screen?
[18:16] <module000> color: it's ok, we all have to learn at some point. `screen` is what i use btw
[18:17] <chreekat> On 11.10, how do I go about choosing to boot a different kernel?
[18:18] <ai6pg> chreekat - when booting - grub you should be able to use your arrow keys to open a list of possible additional kernels to boot from if they are installed into grub.
[18:19] <trism> color: both
[18:20] <chreekat> ai6pg: I can't seem to make the grub menu pop up. Is there some key I can press so it doesn't automatically boot the default? Is there some way to make the wait-time longer? I've managed to find /etc/default/grub, which has GRUB_TIMEOUT=10, but I think that's a red herring
[18:20] <chreekat> I haven't configured grub in a while, and it looks like things have changed. :)
[18:20] <ai6pg> Chreekat: try escape
[18:21] <vlt> Hello. I installed oneiric via debootstrap and now have no audio or network device available. dbus-daemon seems to fail. Any idea what to check first?
[18:21] <ai6pg> chreekat: have you use the ubuntu/debian way of building/installing other kernels ?
[18:21] <color> trism: with screen can you 'split' a tty so you have many 'boxes' on the tty?
[18:22] <color> trism: that is the whole reason I found tmux
[18:22] <color> trism: you can sort of alt+f1-f4 them and see everything you are doing
[18:23] <Rogue|Panda_> ok so running ubuntu 11.1, is it possible to just run the older gnome?
[18:24] <auronandace> !gnome2 | Rogue|Panda_
[18:24] <trism> color: yes, you can split screen too, but I use tmux these days as well
[18:24] <Rogue|Panda_> wait.... so gnome2 is dead?
[18:24] <Rogue|Panda_> that makes me a sad panda
[18:24] <Rogue|Panda_> !nounity
[18:25] <Rogue|Panda> hmm xchat just disappeared
[18:25] <harovali> hi, i'm getting the 'Format unsupported (text/plain)' message, when asking cups to print a text file. How can I teach cups to print it ?
[18:26] <color> trism: I do not use X so I am trying to 'pimp my console' not having much luck with fbspash splash.. got any cool console hacks?
[18:26] <chreekat> ai6pg: just standand upgrades installing new kernels. My webcam is no longer recognized and I thought I'd see if an older kernel would still recognize it. I've got 3.0.0-14 and 3.0.0-15 installed and I thought i'd try to run 3.0.0-14
[18:26] <chreekat> but otoh, it looks like 3.0.0-14 was installed on 22-jan and I certainly used my webcam after that. So maybe this wouldn't help anyway. :/
[18:27] <chreekat> *3.0.0-15
[18:27] <xafarder> eres
[18:28] <Rogue|Panda> hmm all this time I thought this channel was on it's own server
[18:28] <trism> color: sorry, I do not, I almost always use X, it doesn't really use many resources if you use something light like ratpoison/awesome/openbox
[18:28] <auronandace> Rogue|Panda: nope, part of freenode
[18:29] <Rogue|Panda> ok, so... gnome2 is dead, that sucks
[18:29] <color> trism: used to use fluxbox..
[18:32] <auronandace> Rogue|Panda: i can recomend xfce
[18:32] <Rogue|Panda> I used it a while back
[18:33] <Rogue|Panda> I gotta admit, I like the prettyness of gnome but not digging the newest setup
[18:33] <chreekat> New question: why does 'colord' own /var/log/kern.log.
[18:33] <pikaciu> lxde
[18:33] <auronandace> Rogue|Panda: i've never found gnome pretty, but i must admit there aren't many good themes on xfce
[18:34] <Rogue|Panda> been a while since I tried KDE
[18:34] <thibaut> Salut
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> !fr| thibaut
[18:34] <Rogue|Panda> havent tried it since 4 came out, and it was a mess
[18:34] <thibaut> Sorry, bye :)
[18:35] <module000> chreekat: look for your webcam in the output of `lspci -vvv`. see if it has a "Driver in use:" section, if that is blank then you updated yourself out of a webcam driver
[18:35] <module000> Rogue|Panda: tried gnome-shell?
[18:35] <Rogue|Panda> nope
[18:35] <module000> Rogue|Panda: are you using unity or something?
[18:36] <Rogue|Panda> module000, yeah
[18:36] <module000> Rogue|Panda: unity = canonical's idea of what gnome3 should look like.  gnome-shell = gnome's idea of what gnome should look like.
[18:36] <module000> Rogue|Panda: you might like it more(or less), but just a thought
[18:36] <Rogue|Panda> looks nice but starting to irk me
[18:36] <Rogue|Panda> I ran gnome3 on Mint, but you couldnt really configure it
[18:37] <Rogue|Panda> so if I install it, it will be in the options at the login screen?
[18:37] <module000> Rogue|Panda: yea none of the old gnome2 tools are present to customize as much. 'gnometweak' is pretty useful, but still nor eplacement for all the goodies gnome2 had to customize the experience
[18:37] <Rogue|Panda> gnome-shell that is
[18:37] <module000> Rogue|Panda: yep
[18:37] <module000> Rogue|Panda: it will just be listed as 'Gnome'
[18:38] <chreekat> module000: It doesn't even show up in lspci. :( I suppose that indicates a hardware problem, eh?
[18:38] <module000> chreekat: is this a laptop?
[18:38] <chreekat> module000: it is
[18:38] <module000> chreekat: make sure you don't have a hotkey combination with a picture of your webcam on it, if it's not in lspci there is a good chance it's turned "off". like a function key would accomplish
[18:39] <inox^> Hi
[18:39] <module000> chreekat: and as a last resort, take a look in `lsusb` as well(in case it's connected via usb). and look at `dmesg` for any sign of it
[18:39] <chreekat> module000: ah holy crap, thank you. This is in fact not the first time I've done this. Totally forgot about that key. Musta hit it on accident.
[18:39] <module000> chreekat: :)
[18:39] <chreekat> module000:  :)
[18:39] <Rogue|Panda> I hate those fn keys
[18:40] <chreekat> Yeah, if this happens again I might have to look into disabling it
[18:40] <Rogue|Panda> I go to hit the "2" key and miss and turn off my wifi
[18:40] <chreekat> Rogue|Panda: What I like about this laptop is this particular order of fn keys: [mute][sleep][vol-down][vol-up]
[18:42] <diimdeep> Hello, there is diagram like this http://dougseven.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/win8-new-platform.png?w=660 about technology that is present in Ubuntu/linux ?
[18:43] <acerimmer> Rogue|Panda: on my dell 1545, I can alternate between fn and alternate keypress in the bios menu.
[18:43] <module000> diimdeep: that doesn't translate directly to ubuntu, you're looking for more of a "X Windows" chart if you want apples to apples
[18:44] <trism> diimdeep: maybe something like this: http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/platform/documentation/platform-diagram/ ?
[18:45] <acerimmer> !ubuntu-dev|tdiimdeep
[18:45] <csabi> hello somebody can help me?? I don't have bootsplash only purple background
[18:45] <diimdeep> module000: let me refrase: There is diagram that describes what Tools, OS APIs, Language available for writing applications ?
[18:45] <acerimmer> !developer|diimdeep
[18:47] <MFen> anyone know why ssh-agent stops working after i log out and back in?
[18:48] <MFen> it's one of the programs i have in Xsession.d but i don't know what the lifecycle of those programs is
[18:48] <MFen> it's still running when i log back in, appears to be the same instance.
[18:48] <MFen> restarting it, even with the same command line i can see in "pgrep" output, does not work.
[18:49] <MFen> (likely because dbus also seems to be screwed up at that point.. gvim gets errors r/t dbus)
[18:49] <diimdeep> trism: it's good, maybe there is more detailed diagram..
[18:49] <csabi> hello somebody can help me?? I don't have bootsplash only purple background
[18:50] <dak0> csabi: Have you changed anyting on Nvidia control panel ?
[18:50] <acerimmer> csabi: so you can't log in ??
[18:50] <fzlamn> how to fix this problem http://pastebin.com/1eVcFEQT
[18:51] <kdkdkdkll> is there a pastebin feature here
[18:51] <csabi> i can log in but not show the bootsplash
[18:51] <MFen> fzlamn: likely an error in the url. are you using an https:// url? if you bring it up in a browser do you get an error?
[18:51] <acerimmer> !paste|kdkdkdkll
[18:52] <csabi> and only show the purple background..
[18:52] <fzlamn> MFen: i'll paste it again
[18:52] <iText> i installed a native package from my deb file, it installed successfully, but unable to find where it has been installed and how to run it
[18:53] <kdkdkdkll> hi can someone check the rkhunter log file here out http://paste.ubuntu.com/825457/
[18:53] <kdkdkdkll> had some warnings
[18:54] <kdkdkdkll> why dont the identity hashes of computer programs match their database
[18:54] <fzlamn> MFen: i try to add new ppa to my 11.10 and this problem occur http://pastebin.com/1eVcFEQT
[18:54] <MFen> fzlamn: i already responded to that error, see above.
[18:55] <fzlamn> MFen: you cannot open the url?
[18:55] <MFen> fzlamn: i see your pastebin just fine. it doesn't include the command you're typing, but i assume there is a url of some kind that you are typing. that url is probably wrong, or the server at the other end is wrong
[18:56] <pikaciu> iText : usually in /usr/bin and try to type the app name in a terminal
[18:57] <fzlamn> MFen: okay... it happen when i try to add any ppa
[18:57] <kdkdkdkll> is it possible to send the log to rkhunter themselves perhaps
[18:57] <MFen> fzlamn: when you ask a question you should include the command you're typing or the actions you are doing
[18:58] <iText> pikaclu: i was unable to locate, tried with package name, also fails
[18:58] <pikaciu> iText : sudo find / -name app-name  -print
[18:58] <fzlamn> MFen: it happen when i put in this command sudo apt-add-repository ppa:unity-team/ppa
[18:59] <MFen> fzlamn: ok. next question: do you have a network proxy of some kind?
[18:59] <fzlamn> MFen: no i don't
[19:00] <MFen> fzlamn: the error you're getting indicates that apt-add-repository is making a connection to a server which it *thinks* is using https (TLS), but is, in fact, not
[19:00] <MFen> that suggests you're being redirected to a proxy, or something else is interfering
[19:00] <_Ethan_> hi
[19:01] <iText> pikaclu: it was there at //usr/share/doc/package, but how can i run it?
[19:01] <kdkdkdkll> no yes no
[19:01] <acerimmer> _Ethan_: greetings
[19:01] <_Ethan_> one question, i just renamed a file with "mv example.py simplegui.py"
[19:01] <pikaciu> iText : are you sure you have installed that app ?
[19:01] <_Ethan_> im in the folder
[19:01] <_Ethan_> i can see the file with "ls" command
[19:02] <_Ethan_> however when i try to execute
[19:02] <_Ethan_> it
[19:02] <MFen> fzlamn: aptitude install lynx, then type: lynx https://ppa.launchpad.net/
[19:02] <acerimmer> _Ethan_: permissions - that file needs to be "executable"
[19:02] <MFen> you should get redirected to the main launchpad page. if you see an error or something else, you have proxy issues. i think there are environment variables that can fix that, but i don't know how they work (someone else in here might)
[19:02] <pikaciu> iText : a file must be present in usr/bin
[19:03] <fzlamn> MFen: i have to install lynx?
[19:03] <MFen> fzlamn: for diagnostic purposes
[19:03] <xangua> (12:59:04) fzlamn: MFen: it happen when i put in this command sudo apt-add-repository < the right comand is "add-apt-repository"
[19:03] <iText> pikaclu: i have the deb file on my folder, a native package i made, when double clicked, it took me to Ubuntu Software Center, there i clicked install, it now shows 'installed'
[19:03] <_Ethan_> but why when pressing tab i does not autocomplete?
[19:03] <acerimmer> _Ethan_: huh??
[19:03] <pikaciu> iText : what's the app ?
[19:03] <fzlamn> xangua: so my command line is wrong?
[19:04] <cosmic303> hiya all.. i was just tryin to update thunderbird, and i have no idea where i can find the current installation. in the .desktop file where i would expect the path, it just says "thunderbird %u" ..does anyone know what the %u variable is for?
[19:04] <_Ethan_> if i press tab it should complete with the name right?
[19:04] <xangua> fzlamn: what are you trying to acomplish with that outdated ppa¿ what ubuntu version do you use¿
[19:04] <iText> pikaclu: an editor, that is used to edit Devanagari Text
[19:04] <theadmin> cosmic303: Substituded by the URL of the selected file. Mainly for using with Nautilus' "Open With"
[19:04] <acerimmer> _Ethan_: yes but you have to provide enough clues for the autocomplete
[19:05] <theadmin> cosmic303: To update thunderbird, you need to just run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[19:05] <fzlamn> xangua: i'm running 11.10
[19:05] <theadmin> cosmic303: To the latest officially available version in Ubuntu anyway
[19:05] <MFen> fzlamn: xangua: that's interesting. on my system they are symlinked to the same command. i wonder if that's not always the case? apparently on xangua's system they are different somehow
[19:05] <pikaciu> iText : the name ?
[19:05] <MFen> fzlamn: ls -l /usr/bin/apt-add-repository
[19:05] <iText> pikaclu: this deb package i made, it is still not ported to ubuntu
[19:05] <MFen> if it's a link to /usr/bin/add-apt-repository, then that's not your problem
[19:05] <cosmic303> theadmin: if i do that, it tells me its the current version..but im on 3.1.16
[19:05] <cosmic303> and current should be 10.0
[19:06] <theadmin> cosmic303: Ah, sounds like you need to change to another Ubuntu release then, or use the PPAs.
[19:06] <xangua> fzlamn: then you already have unity 4
[19:06] <auronandace> !info firefox lucid
[19:06] <xangua> fzlamn: that ppa has a beta version, i see no need for it
[19:06] <theadmin> cosmic303: Run this, please: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/thunderbird-stable && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:06] <cosmic303> kk, lemme try that
[19:07] <_Ethan_> acerimmer,  thanks. But for example, in my desktop i have only one file, "test.odt" , in the terminal shouldnt it appear when pressing tab?
[19:07] <_Ethan_> ls
[19:07] <pikaciu> iText : if you don't have and executive file (in usr(bin, ad example) you cannot run an application
[19:07] <_Ethan_> ls         test.odt            xx@xx:~/Desktop$
[19:08] <_Ethan_> so, if i write "tes" and press tab, why it does not complete?
[19:08] <acerimmer> _Ethan_: not a terminal expert but in my experience, autocomplete only pertains to commands
[19:08] <theadmin> _Ethan_: "test.odt" is not a program
[19:08] <_Ethan_> i think also for folders/files
[19:08] <_Ethan_> so, need to be a program ?
[19:08] <theadmin> _Ethan_: Therefore, you need to specify something like this: xdg-open tes<tab>
[19:09] <_Ethan_> got it now
[19:09] <_Ethan_> cd ..
[19:09] <_Ethan_> ups sorry
[19:09] <cosmic303> oh well..i guess its downloading 9.0 now..thats at least better than 3.1.16...
[19:10] <cosmic303> thank u theadmin
[19:10] <_Ethan_> theadmin,  would you recommend me any program for editing ?
[19:10] <theadmin> _Ethan_: By the way, xdg-open is the command to open the file in the default application. You can obviously just tell it to use swriter (which is the command for odt files, i.e. LibreOffice Writer) directly.
[19:10] <_Ethan_> geany for example
[19:10] <theadmin> _Ethan_: Vim is my main recommendation to everyone, but then again it's rather confusing for beginners. Geany is good. jEdit is also great and very similar, but needs Java. Cream is also a good one
[19:11] <_Ethan_> ok, then iĺl go ahead with vim
[19:11] <_Ethan_> :D
[19:11] <theadmin> _Ethan_: You need to probably learn how to use it first, because it's not just "open the editor and start typing". That is, unless you already know how to.
[19:12] <Alexeey17> hi, is there any way that i can scan my computer, and make a list of drivers compatible with my drive so that i dont have prblems when instaling?
[19:12] <fzlamn> xangua: i try to fix my unity lens, the problem is like this http://imagebin.org/196758
[19:13] <_Ethan_> theadmin, yes, thanks for the advice
[19:13] <xangua> fzlamn: well i don't see how some early beta packages outdated are gona work for
[19:14] <xangua> fzlamn: already tried simply to reset unity? :    unity --reset
[19:14] <xangua> there was also a comand to reset unity icons, but can't remember it at the moment
[19:14] <fzlamn> xangua: try it before and it wont work
[19:14] <jiltdil> Is there any way to find out how many hours my system is used after purchase?
[19:15] <MonkeyDust> to reset Compiz / Unity ... gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz && compiz --replace
[19:15] <abc> what is a default GUI config manager for webcams?
[19:15] <xangua> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html fzlamn
[19:15] <mrdeb> when is unity going to be finished
[19:15] <theadmin> abc: We don't have any, however the default cam app is cheese
[19:16] <fzlamn> xangua: i'll try it, thanks
[19:16] <abc> theadmin, thanks, I have just installed it (as it was the only one close enough supported by Canonical)
[19:17] <abc> cheese segfaults :-(
[19:17] <pikaciu> wow
[19:18] <Juba> Hi every1
[19:19] <Nach0z> hey does anyone know how I can get libpopt0 1.7 on my system? I have a printer driver that needs 1.7 or above and currently all I have is 1.16
[19:20] <Slart> jiltdil: what do you mean? you want to see how long your system has been running? time since install? something else?
[19:20] <theadmin> abc: Try Kamoso
[19:20] <jiltdil> Slart: i want to know  it from first power on to till date
[19:20] <acerimmer> abc:try GUVCview
[19:20] <abc> theadmin, cannot stand KDE, thanks though
[19:21] <theadmin> abc: Yeah, it's KDE-ish allright... Hm... I'll look into some other alternatives.
[19:21] <abc> acerimmer, will try now, tnx
[19:21] <ellos> hola
[19:21] <acerimmer> ellos: greetings
[19:21] <jiltdil> Slart,  Anyway i got it man.
[19:21] <theadmin> abc: Hm, there is "wxCam"
[19:21] <Slart> jiltdil: there might be an install time somewhere in /var/log/installer/casper.log
[19:22] <fzlamn> xangua: both command it the webup8 link doesnt work
[19:22] <auronandace> jiltdil: the only way you'd find that out would be if you built it yourself
[19:22] <Slart> jiltdil: ah.. nevermind then
[19:22] <jiltdil> Slart, auronandace , you can find it by reading smart data from hard drive i got it
[19:23] <auronandace> jiltdil: sorry, i thought you meant all the hardware (not just the harddrive)
[19:24] <meco> I'm having some problems setting up smokeping. Where should I look for it in the file system?
[19:25] <acerimmer> jiltdil: sounds like something the manufacturer know about.
[19:26] <MonkeyDust> meco  try /usr/bin/ , it's where intalled program are located
[19:26] <meco> MonkeyDust: OK
[19:29] <meco> Now, I have done the installating, 'sudo apt-get install smokeping', and I got no error messages. I can't find anything srtaing with smokepin in /usr/bin/? Perhaps I should searhc for it? How would I do that?
[19:29] <_cb> just installed Ubuntu Server 11.10 and upon bootup my monitor complains it is an out of range signal?
[19:29] <_trine> anyone interested in signing http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/23526
[19:29] <acerimmer> meco: terminal -  locate smokeping
[19:30] <xangua> _trine: pleas stock to the topic
[19:30] <meco> I should mention it's not a regular app. It needs to be started with the start command.
[19:30] <p1pp0_666> hi!
[19:30] <_trine> xangua, I read it but decided to do it anyway as its for an excellent purpose
[19:30] <meco> 'locate smokeping' simply gave me back the pormpt.
[19:31] <m_tadeu> hi...I'm trying to use mysqldbexport, but I'm getting the following error "ImportError: No module named mysql.utilities". How can I solve this?
[19:31] <meco> Have to go /away - bbl
[19:33] <v-himanshu> wireless not working...have been digging into help docs, but can't make it working.
[19:34] <v-himanshu> 10.04
[19:34] <acerimmer> v-himanshu: hardware?
[19:34] <v-himanshu> trying with wicd manager. it detects the router, but fails to get it
[19:34] <v-himanshu> you mean model? lenevo sl410
[19:35] <acerimmer> v-himanshu: broadcom wireless card??
[19:35] <v-himanshu> its intel driver
[19:35] <v-himanshu> sorry device
[19:35] <v-himanshu> driver is iwlagn
[19:36] <v-himanshu> product: WiFi Link 1000 Series
[19:36] <v-himanshu> configuration: broadcast=yes driver=iwlagn latency=0 multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11bgn
[19:36] <fzlamn> v-himanshu: run lshw and find your wireless card
[19:37] <v-himanshu> i paste it
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> meco  type 'which smokeping' , without the quotes
[19:37] <v-himanshu> fzlamn:
[19:37] <v-himanshu> description: Wireless interface
[19:37] <v-himanshu>        product: WiFi Link 1000 Series
[19:37] <v-himanshu>        vendor: Intel Corporation
[19:37] <v-himanshu>        physical id: 0
[19:37] <v-himanshu>        bus info: pci@0000:05:00.0
[19:37] <FloodBot1> v-himanshu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:38] <v-himanshu> oh! I got muted
[19:38] <fzlamn> v-himanshu: use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[19:38] <v-himanshu> sure
[19:38] <v-himanshu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/825513/
[19:39] <v-himanshu> fzalmn:acerimmer: does that help
[19:40] <kuhno> i am banned in #ubuntu-de? why that? O.o
[19:40] <fzlamn> v-himanshu: this is your wireless card?
[19:40] <RadiumCat> hello everyone :) can any kind soul tell me how do i add extra keyboard layouts in lxde? lxkeymap allows setting up only one language for some odd reason
[19:40] <p1pp0_666> #find eminem
[19:41] <RadiumCat> anyone?
[19:41] <v-himanshu> fzlamn: this is the putput of lshw -c network
[19:42] <v-himanshu> s/putput/output
[19:42] <theadmin> kuhno: Probably need to register
[19:42] <theadmin> kuhno: I didn't think Ubuntu channels are restricted to registered users, but that seems to be the case. Join #freenode for registration help
[19:42] <fzlamn> v-himanshu: $ lshw
[19:43] <RadiumCat> anyone?
[19:43] <theadmin> Anyways I'm off, see ya guys
[19:43] <kuhno> theadmin, i am identified with nickserv. is that what you mean with registering?
[19:43] <adom> hi all, quick question: anyway to make the Backspace key in Firefox go back a page in history, just like Windows does?
[19:43] <RadiumCat> anyone?
[19:43] <_cb> for some odd reason my ubuntu server 11.10 install seems to have a strange video config. Short of re-install, is there anything I can do?
[19:44] <RadiumCat> anyone?
[19:44] <kuhno> adom: in about:config there is a browser.backspace_action value
[19:44] <RadiumCat> anyone?
[19:44] <v-himanshu> fzlamn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/825525/
[19:45] <RadiumCat> anyone?
[19:45] <xangua> !repeat | RadiumCat
[19:45] <iceroot> RadiumCat: stop it please
[19:45] <kuhno> adom: this will do the trick, just try to set it to somethink different, maybe 1?
[19:45] <Myrtti> RadiumCat: how about you stop trailing your questions with gazillion anyones and ask in #lubuntu?
[19:45] <adom> kuhno: thanks perfect
[19:45] <v-himanshu> fzlamn: please let me know what you are looking for.... i want to know the debugging process
[19:45] <RadiumCat> ok myrtti, sorry for being such an ass
[19:45] <hydrox24> RadiumCat: Also, that question, though not specifically disallowed here is not really relevant to ubuntu and you should go and ask it in lxde or lubuntu channe
[19:46] <adom> kuhno: Windows' is set to 0, gonna try that
[19:47] <adom> kuhno: 0 worked
[19:48] <_meberhart> is aircrack allowed for conversation in this room?
[19:49] <iceroot> _meberhart: if it is technical ubuntu related yes, if it is a question how to use it, ask there channel
[19:49] <fzlamn> v-himanshu: what version of ubuntu and your computer model?
[19:49] <_meberhart> i was just wondering if it can be installed via the package manager, or if i have to compile it from source. i searched in the package manager, but could not find it.
[19:49] <v-himanshu> fzlamn:10.04 and lenevo sl410
[19:50] <shoaei> hi
[19:50] <v-himanshu> fzlamn, did you find anything useful in the pastie?
[19:50] <iceroot> _meberhart: doesnt seem to be in the repos which is strange
[19:51] <_meberhart> hmm... guess i'll have to do it from source. thanks :)
[19:51] <milen8204> How can I do some file transfer trough network between Ubuntu 11.10 and Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[19:51] <shoaei> hi 2 all
[19:51] <v-himanshu> milen8204, : seems you have two systems?
[19:51] <shoaei> pm  me sent?
[19:52] <milen8204> v-himanshu, I have Home network
[19:52] <milen8204> v-himanshu, I have a PC whit Ubuntu and laptop whit Ubuntu
[19:53] <v-himanshu> milen8204: and destination have a static ip?
[19:53] <v-himanshu> milen8204: if yes, do a scp
[19:53] <cue232s22> does anyone have experience installing RVM
[19:53] <milen8204> v-himanshu, no i have a ruter
[19:54] <v-himanshu> milen8204, only option is a usb afaik
[19:54] <v-himanshu> milen8204, sorry :)
[19:54] <DinoMuffin> or he could set up ssh
[19:55] <DinoMuffin> he needs to have at least one device on a static IP
[19:55] <v-himanshu> DinoMuffin, setting ssh will not ask for the destination addres?
[19:55] <milen8204> what is what is ssh
[19:55] <v-himanshu> DinoMuffin, yeah, that's what it is
[19:55] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: it will, but that's not something hard to find, even if it's on DHCP
[19:55] <fzlamn> v-himanshu: try look at this link http://www.linlap.com/wiki/lenovo+thinkpad+sl410
[19:55] <acerimmer> cue232s22: http://www.christopherirish.com/2010/08/25/how-to-install-rvm-on-ubuntu-10-04/
[19:55] <esuave> member:cue232s22: http://beginrescueend.com/
[19:55] <_meberhart> milen - ssh is what i'm talking about in the PM.
[19:56] <yva> hi there, a quick question is there a way to avoid having to confirm closing when I close the terminal?
[19:56] <xxiao> what's the difference between ubuntu tv and xbmc?
[19:56] <milen8204> ok thanks
[19:57] <cue232s22> thanks, Ill check them out
[19:57] <v-himanshu> fzlamn, it says wireless works
[19:58] <v-himanshu> actually mine was working too (last time i used it was 2 months back)
[19:58] <v-himanshu> fzlamn, then it just stopped working
[19:59] <v-himanshu> fzlamn, thanks so far, but it seems the link is not helping
[19:59] <msterbrewer> i am trying to access the files from my windows partion on my ubuntu  computer from my other windows computer
[19:59] <cue232s22> esuave: I tried this route but it keeps saying I don't have permission to make the folder, and I don't want to  use sudo
[19:59] <th_> hello all! who wants to redommend good and lightweight google reader for me?
[19:59] <msterbrewer> its telling me that i need to type usershare owner only = false
[19:59] <msterbrewer> how do i set that
[19:59] <fzlamn> v-himanshu: have any error when you update?
[20:00] <esuave> cue232s22: where are you trying to make the folder?
[20:00] <v-himanshu> not then
[20:00] <v-himanshu> but i updated today and it says something about missing .avahi ( i may be misspelling it)? file
[20:01] <cue232s22> @esuave I didn't specify.. I just ran the command
[20:01] <v-himanshu> that message was when i restarted after the update
[20:01] <v-himanshu> fzlamn, is that may be the cause?
[20:01] <msterbrewer> got dced
[20:02] <SteM> hi all, i upgrated to 11.10, eclipse 3.7.1 was deleted and installed 3.7.0 without any plugin: i need jdt and wst
[20:02] <v-himanshu> DinoMuffin, coming back to your ssh thing, what I meant was that even ssh will not help if destination system is not on a static address
[20:03] <h00k> /2/2
[20:03] <h00k> bah.
[20:03] <esuave> @cue232s22: well run it in a folder thats owned by you.. see if that works
[20:03] <msterbrewer> i am trying to access the files from my windows partion on my ubuntu  computer from my other windows computer
[20:03] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: it doesn't need to be static. But if you're setting up a dhcp server, it's best that it is static so it's not effected by DHCP
[20:03] <msterbrewer> its telling me that i need to type usershare owner only = false
[20:03] <msterbrewer> how do i set that
[20:03] <meco> How do I locate smokeping.cgi?
[20:03] <v-himanshu> DinoMuffin, can you jump to my problem... Though fzlamn is also trying to helping
[20:04] <v-himanshu> DinoMuffin, ok, will look into it
[20:04] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: I think i came in after you did
[20:04] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: i don't see your question
[20:04] <v3trae> Good afternoon, anyone had any luck with converting their one disk system to a raid1 before? Having some trouble getting grub2 to install to the raid drive
[20:05] <v-himanshu> DinoMuffin, ohk. So, my wireless is not working somehow. my wireless client is wicd and i can see the router.
[20:05] <v-himanshu> but it fails to connect
[20:05] <v-himanshu> lshw o/p is http://paste.ubuntu.com/825525/
[20:05] <hotea1313> hello
[20:05] <DinoMuffin> so, the wireless card can see the router, but cannot connect
[20:06] <hotea1313> im trying to access my files on my linux computer from my windows computer
[20:06] <v-himanshu> yes
[20:06] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: is your connection on DHCP or are you running static?
[20:06] <v-himanshu> its not static
[20:06] <v-himanshu> so, it should be dhcp
[20:06] <hotea1313> but when i try to share a foler on the linux puter it tlells me i need to type usershare owner only+false
[20:06] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: any recent changes to your router config?
[20:07] <v-himanshu> no
[20:07] <v-himanshu> its just the wireless thing
[20:07] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: were you able to access the router before from wireless?
[20:07] <v-himanshu> lan works good
[20:07] <v-himanshu> yes, last time it was 2 months back
[20:07] <DinoMuffin> ok
[20:07] <v-himanshu> and then i can't use _any_ wireless connection
[20:07] <th_> hello all! who wants to redommend good and lightweight google reader for me?
[20:07] <v-himanshu> neither home, nor university
[20:07] <fzlamn> v-himanshu: avahi daemon is some thing about networking
[20:08] <v-himanshu> fzlamn, yeah,  i read it... but couldn;t get it along
[20:08] <organiks> hey all
[20:08] <CharlieSu> Hi all.  I'm an Ubuntu guy, but I'd like to know if anyone has a distro suggestion for a bootable USB drive.  I'd like something that works on both PC and Mac that I can boot from, persist data to and do pen testing with.  Ideally it would be encrypted.  Are there any distros out there that excel at this?
[20:08] <v-himanshu> fzlamn, and unfortunately, i don't remember the exact filename
[20:09] <_meberhart> Charlie - Damn Small Linux and PHLAK
[20:09] <v-himanshu> it had a prefix .avahiXXX
[20:09] <kapz> Hi people! :) I would really like to learn Ubuntu like the way i learned Slackware and Arch...where should I look? I mean ubuntu has no inittab file!!!!! that's a surprise to me!
[20:09] <organiks> can i use allocate a memory stick for read write like ready boost
[20:09] <CharlieSu> _meberhart: i'll look into both..  thanks for the info..
[20:09] <Gentoo64> organiks, to use as swap?
[20:09] <organiks> yea
[20:09] <Gentoo64> you could
[20:09] <_meberhart> Charlie - no problem :)
[20:10] <fzlamn> v-himanshu: maybe you need to reinstall it. look at your synaptic, find avahi daemon that have relation to wireless network
[20:10] <Gentoo64> organiks, much point though?
[20:10] <v-himanshu> hmm
[20:10] <organiks> no?
[20:10] <Gentoo64> organiks, i wouldnt bother
[20:10] <meco> Are text-based editors more convenient than, say, gedit?
[20:10] <v-himanshu> let me restart the system and look for the exact filename. Will get back to you folks soon
[20:11] <Gentoo64> meco, hard to say
[20:11] <Gentoo64> meco, gui editors are good in the way you can just double click a file in file manager to open it
[20:11] <Gentoo64> if youre on a terminal then cli ones would be easier..
[20:11] <kapz> *wonders if he will be answered...! ...
[20:12] <CharlieSu> _meberhart: neither have been updated in years..  I have to assume there is something better..
[20:12] <meco> Gentoo64: ok
[20:12] <fzlamn> CharlieSu: try backbox
[20:13] <Gentoo64> kapz, i suppose youd just learn what changes there are as you go
[20:13] <Gentoo64> what do you mean "learn ubuntu like slackware">?
[20:14] <Gentoo64> CharlieSu, any distro will probably be alright, if its specific pen testing stuff you need to do, then most package managers have the individual apps
[20:15] <v-himanshu> fzlamn, so the message says that "my current network domain is .local, which is not recommended with avahi"
[20:15] <meco> Does anyone here have experience in setting up smokeping and can help me with it?
[20:15] <ikonia> meco: smokeping ?
[20:15] <meco> ikonia: yes
[20:15] <v-himanshu> fzlamn: sorry it has noting to do with missig file. i misread it earlier
[20:15] <v-himanshu> s/noting/nothing
[20:15] <ikonia> meco: never even heard of it, what is it and what's the issue ?
[20:15] <danols> are ubuntu and debian same?
[20:15] <ikonia> danols: no
[20:16] <acerimmer> !debian|danols
[20:16] <meco> ikonia: It's a ping utility that is accessed as a cgi script on the localfost web servers
[20:16] <ikonia> meco: sounds quite insecure
[20:16] <fzlamn> v-himanshu: seem like i can help you just here
[20:16] <meco> ikonia: It's me who is going to use it.
[20:17] <ikonia> meco: I'm sure, sounds quite insecure as a concept though
[20:17] <ikonia> meco: what's the issue setting it up ?
[20:17] <v-himanshu> fzlamn, your firstaid box doesn;t have any aid for this you mean?
[20:17] <v-himanshu> fzlamn, that's ok. Thanks for your help so far
[20:18] <v-himanshu> thing is i am looking for some pointers that might be of some help in debugging it
[20:18] <kapz> Gentoo64: I don't follow you! what do you mean exactly? Every system is different that I know, just where to look is my question.
[20:18] <v-himanshu> but its just not coming along
[20:18] <danols> so bottom line Third, Ubuntu makes much more frequent and fresher releases. Our release policy of releasing every six months is (at the time of writing :-) unique in the Linux distribution world. Ubuntu aims to provide you with a regular stable and security-supported snapshot of the best of the open source world.
[20:18] <fzlamn> v-himanshu: i guest i can help you and i'm here with a problem to.. :D
[20:18] <meco> ikonia: Well, I've installed it with no hitches. But then I'm lost trying to follow the instructions after that. http://localhost/cgi/smokeping.cgi doesn't show anything yet
[20:18] <danols> thanks guys
[20:19] <v-himanshu> fzlamn, what's yours?
[20:19] <Gentoo64> kapz, youd have to learn as you go, as every distro is different, there isn't a "standard" to compare ubuntu to
[20:19] <ikonia> meco: have you setup the website to host cgi ?
[20:19] <ikonia> meco: if you visit "http://localhost" do you get the default welcome page
[20:19] <meco> ikonia: Nope, and yes
[20:19] <v-himanshu> fzlamn, and where should i look for this
[20:19] <v-himanshu> i mean for my problem
[20:19] <Gentoo64> meco, run sudo ss -l see if its listening
[20:20] <ikonia> meco: ok, then you know where you need to look
[20:20] <danols> can someone check if ubutnu has freeswitch ? pakcage?
[20:20] <Gentoo64> !freeswitch
[20:20] <Gentoo64> :s
[20:20] <fzlamn> v-himanshu: i need to sleep, it 4am at my place. you can keep going ask and maybe someone have a better solution for you. i'm sorry friend.
[20:21] <ikonia> !info freeswitch
[20:21] <ikonia> there you go
[20:21] <meco> Gentoo64: What should I be looking for in that output?
[20:21] <v-himanshu> fzlamn, thanks. that's ok
[20:21] <danols> hmm
[20:22] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: have you tried setting up a static wifi connection?
[20:22] <meco> ikonia: you mean, looking for a tutorial on enabling the web server to host cgi?
[20:22] <porkchop85> Does anyone here have any experence with PXE
[20:22] <v-himanshu> DinoMuffin, no sir
[20:22] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: couldn't hurt. You might be having DHCP issues
[20:23] <kapz> Gentoo64: facepalm at you! you didn't even guide me to a answer!
[20:23] <v-himanshu> DinoMuffin, can you give some pointers please
[20:23] <ikonia> meco: install the cfi modules, make sure the site has cgi enable and a cgi-root set, dump the script in, and you're done
[20:23] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: you'll need to find out the network address of your router
[20:23] <meco> ikonia: haha... I didn't undderstand any of that...
[20:23] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: usually either 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1
[20:23] <Gentoo64> kapz, i did answer you
[20:24] <esuave> anyone successfully setup a Siri Proxy in here before?
[20:24] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: then go into your network config and setup a static connection
[20:24] <v-himanshu> DinoMuffin, ok. let me see this
[20:25] <kapz> Gentoo64: Please don't answer me anymore! you pathetic little fool
[20:25] <Gentoo64> why troll though
[20:25] <ikonia> kapz: stop that
[20:25] <ikonia> kapz: no need for name calling
[20:25] <kapz> no trooll...y answer like a troll?
[20:25] <Gentoo64> im niot
[20:25] <meco> ikonia: I've located the script in two place: /usr/share/smokeping/cgi-bin/ and /usr/lib/cgi-bin/. Now, does it need to be copied somewhere else, like in /var/www/?
[20:25] <ikonia> kapz: iif you want to learn ubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com
[20:25] <Gentoo64> so you want to know what changes ubuntu has, comapred to what distro... ?
[20:26] <Gentoo64> liek i said
[20:26] <ikonia> meco it needs to be whereever you have set the cgi root for your website
[20:26] <Gentoo64> theres no "standard" distro
[20:26] <ikonia> meco: you need to make sure cgi modules are enabled
[20:26] <kapz> Then y answer my Q in a Generic way, when i was specific!
[20:26] <GleasonGrails> If a window gets stuck under the top panel in unity is there anyway to hide the top panel to get to it
[20:26] <GleasonGrails> short of installing gnome
[20:26] <ikonia> kapz: you have the answer, lets move on
[20:26] <kapz> thanks ikonia
[20:27] <meco> ikonia: OK, then the next step I don't know about is how to enable cgi, and then to set the cgi-root.
[20:27] <sskalnik> aptitude equivalent of apt-get sources?
[20:27] <ikonia> meco: there should be a package called somehing like "mod-cgi", then the cgi root is set in the apache sites config file (I'm assuming you are using the default site)
[20:27] <GleasonGrails> nm got it
[20:27] <kapz> WoW....
[20:28] <GleasonGrails> right click on the edge and I can use move
[20:28] <meco> ikonia: 'sudo apt-get install mod-cgi'?
[20:28] <ikonia> meco search for it
[20:28] <meco> ok
[20:28] <sskalnik> nvm, looks like "aptitude download" is what I want
[20:30] <v-himanshu> DinoMuffin, you have to teach me sth now. My local ip is 192.168.122.119... IS that what you meant by router ip? I don't think so
[20:31] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: no, that's your machine's network address.
[20:31] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: are you on linux right now?
[20:31] <v-himanshu> yes
[20:31] <DinoMuffin> type in ifconfig
[20:32] <v-himanshu> and
[20:32] <DinoMuffin> tell me your netmask
[20:32] <DinoMuffin> or "Mask"
[20:33] <v-himanshu> Mask:255.255.255.0
[20:33] <DinoMuffin> then your router address is likely 192.168.122.1
[20:33] <Gentoo64> what?
[20:33] <Gentoo64> that netmask is normal
[20:33] <DinoMuffin> what
[20:34] <DinoMuffin> his current IP address is 192.168.122.119
[20:34] <DinoMuffin> theerfor his network is 192.168.122.0
[20:34] <v-himanshu> you mean last digit is 0/1 and starting three numbers are same as local ip?
[20:34] <meco> ikonia I don't have mod-cgi in my files. What else could that name be?
[20:34] <DinoMuffin> ok
[20:34] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: 192.168.122.* is your current network
[20:34] <bob___> 192.168.122.0/24
[20:35] <ikonia> meco: it maybe built into the webserver now without the need for a module
[20:35] <DinoMuffin> so you need to enter into your netconfig the static IP that you want for your local machine, the netmask, and the gateway
[20:35] <meco> ikonia: Then it's onto establishing where cgi-root is?
[20:36] <Aegir> Aegir (has quit)
[20:36] <meco> Or rahter, where the apache config file is located?
[20:36] <ikonia> meco: have you actually read how to set apache up on ubuntu ?
[20:37] <v-himanshu> DinoMuffin, and can I use _any_ static ip here...?
[20:37] <meco> ikonia: No, not at all. I haven't had any use for it before.
[20:37] <ikonia> meco: ok - you need to do that
[20:37] <ikonia> meco: https://help.ubuntu.com - look under the server section
[20:37] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: anything within 192.168.122.2-254
[20:37] <v-himanshu> DinoMuffin, oh i see
[20:37] <hyppias> which filesystem should I use on a debian disk, so I can access the files from Windows?
[20:38] <hyppias> ubuntu that is
[20:38] <meco> ikonia: Wouldn't it be sufficient to do the things we've already set out to do?
[20:38] <DinoMuffin> hyppias: you're accessing it from ubuntu or windows?
[20:38] <Gentoo64> hyppias, from a network or the actual disk?
[20:38] <hyppias> want to read them from Win7
[20:38] <ikonia> meco: no, you're using a technology that you've never set up and have no idea how to setup, reading the basics of setting it up is a must
[20:38] <hyppias> actual disk
[20:38] <Gentoo64> Hyperbyte, ext4 and use ext2read in read only mode on windows
[20:38] <ikonia> meco: if you don't even know where the config file is, then you need to read the very basics just to see it's layout at least
[20:39] <Gentoo64> hyppias, ^
[20:39] <useful__idiot> yeah httpd.conf is a beast ifyou dont read the documentation
[20:40] <meco> ikonia: OK, but I'm sure you or somebody knows there the config for apache is usually located, so it'd be nice to simply have that information.
[20:40] <useful__idiot> does ubuntu use the same a2ensite etc scripts for httpd from debian?
[20:42] <v-himanshu> DinoMuffin, so, tried to set up a static wireless connection, but it doesn't connected
[20:42] <MarioFinutz> a
[20:42] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: can you tell me what you entered for static IP, netmask, and gateway?
[20:43] <meco> ikonia: Now I know I have some kind of web server running, so I guess I needn't go to the section on installing apache2? Or do I?
[20:43] <v-himanshu> sure: static ip 192.168.122.5; netmask: 255.255.255.0; gateway: 192.168.122.1
[20:43] <DinoMuffin> ok
[20:44] <ikonia> meco: I know exactly where it is, but if you want spoon feeding I am not your man, I'll spoon feed people who need it, not people who can't be bothered to read excellent documentation
[20:44] <_meberhart> there is a great guide for setting up LAMP on howtoforge
[20:44] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: what security protocols is your router running?
[20:44] <ikonia> meco: I would read the start to end setup of apache
[20:44] <ikonia> meco: make sure it matches what you've done
[20:44] <meco> ikonia: I understand... I'm kinda challenged in that respect, but I'll make an effort now.
[20:44] <v-himanshu> WPA2
[20:45] <ikonia> meco: good for you
[20:45] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: and you're sure you've entered the passphrase correcly?
[20:45] <v-himanshu> yes
[20:45] <DinoMuffin> hm
[20:45] <v-himanshu> the lan used the same
[20:45] <v-himanshu> sorry
[20:45] <DinoMuffin> ?
[20:45] <v-himanshu> but yes, the password is same
[20:45] <meco> ikonia: Well, the funny thing is I haven't done anything to set up a web server, still I get response when browsing localhost. How can that be?
[20:45] <v-himanshu> i mean password is correct
[20:45] <ikonia> meco: then it's not setup, it's just default
[20:46] <meco> Ah... OK!
[20:47] <meco> Since thereæs apache2, is there also apache1 or apache plain?
[20:47] <ikonia> meco: apache 1 is dead
[20:47] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: sounds like it might be a driver issue
[20:47] <meco> ikonia: Why? What heppened? (not that it matters, just wondrin')
[20:48] <ikonia> meco: new better/updated version came out, no point maintaining the old
[20:48] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: have any other wifi computers been able to connect to that ap?
[20:48] <DinoMuffin> or any wifi device?
[20:48] <meco> ikonia: Sure, but I just figured that to be a bit strange since it came from the same place as the original...
[20:48] <v-himanshu> yes
[20:49] <DinoMuffin> oh but you said it didn't work at uni either, nevermind
[20:49] <v-himanshu> i have a mac and its working like a charm
[20:49] <v-himanshu> yeah
[20:49] <v-himanshu> you mean issue is with the driver: iwlagn
[20:49] <ikonia> meco it didn't
[20:49] <ikonia> meco: it's a new codebase
[20:50] <meco> ikonia: Also, I tried installing apache2 and it didn't since it's already installed, it says. But again, I didn't do it! Is that odd? Nobody else are likely to have been done it either...
[20:50]  * MarioFinutz care e roman
[20:50] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: well if it was working before and has just suddenly stopped wroking, it sounds like it's either a driver issue or the hardware is having issues
[20:51] <ikonia> meco you can only intall it once, so if you installed it earlier, it's already there
[20:51] <meco> ikonia: I didn't install it earlier, unless it installed itself automatically with ubuntu.
[20:52] <meco> btw I'm using oneiric
[20:52] <ikonia> meco: depends what profile you selected at install time, it can install it
[20:52] <pepejoe> hello there. I am using LiveUsb to boot. After a restart, it wont boot from the usb stick, unless I plug it out and in again. Any solutions to that?
[20:53] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: only other thing i can think of that could cause that is mac address filtering on your router
[20:53] <meco> ikonia: The installation guide doesn't say where apache2.conf us located so I'm using find to find out...
[20:54] <DinoMuffin> which is pointless, so it should be turned off anyways
[20:54] <v-himanshu> hmm
[20:54] <v-himanshu> so, do i have to re-install the driver? will that help
[20:54] <DinoMuffin> it may
[20:54] <v-himanshu> and by this i have to reinstall the driver iwlagn
[20:55] <meco> ikonia: I thought you were female because the -a suffix
[20:55] <ikonia> meco: don't worry
[20:56] <ikonia> meco: before you start looking for apache2.conf - keep reading and you'll see that's not what you want
[20:57] <meco> (I'm never worried. Sometimes I'm concerned. I learned today that using the word 'worry' subliminally influences you in an unwanted way...)
[20:57] <meco> ok..
[20:57] <mibr001> acer aspire 5520 running ubuntu 10.10  is overheating how do i raise min fan speed?
[20:58] <v-himanshu> DinoMuffin: lsmod says that the driver is indeed loaded
[20:58] <v-himanshu> iwlagn                123060  0
[20:58] <v-himanshu> iwlcore               125250  1 iwlagn
[21:00] <v-himanshu> DinoMuffin, i don't think either that there is mac address filtring on the router as i am using the wired connection from the same router
[21:00] <stealth_creation> I have a question about sudo, and the ufw firewall. What is the point in having a password, if it onnly ever asks for the password for the account wanting the privileges. I have read that they say this is a secure way of doing things, but if someone has the password for the account, then theoretically they can do what they want through the sudo command or setup whatever rules for the firewall, or am I wrong?  Is there a better
[21:00] <stealth_creation>  way of going about this? A way to set a password that isn't the same as your account?
[21:01] <acerimmer> stealth_creation: I've got an admin account for the sudo stuff and a regular user account for daily use.
[21:01] <v-himanshu> hmm... lunch time... brb and will look more into it. have to make it working by tomorrow morning
[21:01] <meco> ikonia: Now, I've read about all the different files amd dirs. I haven't found any actionable info there. Now I'm at the Basic Settings section. Let me know if I missed something, please!
[21:01] <stealth_creation> but I thought that your admin account was the root account, I had something similar when I was still running Windows.
[21:02] <Slart> stealth_creation: I think the idea is that you can define what a certain person/account can do.. that way they only have to input their own password to be able to do the "admin" stuff they have been pre-cleared for
[21:02] <floorlava> I've installed the HUD ppa. How do I invoke it?
[21:02] <ikonia> meco: ok, so what file contains the config for your site
[21:02] <mibr001> can someone tell me how to raise min fan speed with ubuntu 10.10 on a acer aspire 5520 laptop?
[21:02] <stealth_creation> ok, thanks.
[21:03] <guntbert> floorlava: I guess you want to ask in #ubuntu+1
[21:03] <Slart> stealth_creation: if you've got a root account (which is often the other way of doing things) it's all or nothing.. you either give complete control or nothing at all.. and you can't tell which account did what.. sudo keeps logs about who does what
[21:03] <stealth_creation> have you tried cleaning the fan?
[21:03] <meco> ikonia: I believe that to be /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[21:03] <floorlava> guntbert, thanks.
[21:03] <ikonia> meco: no, you've not read the documentation
[21:03] <ikonia> meco: that is for global configs, not each site
[21:03] <guntbert> !sudo | stealth_creation time for a little reading :)
[21:03] <stealth_creation> I was thinking that it logged what users did what when the sudo command was run
[21:03] <Slart> stealth_creation: the "enter your password" is just to keep people walking past your unlocked computer from doing bad things
[21:04] <guntbert> stealth_creation: that too
[21:04] <stealth_creation> thanks for the reading. waiting to run into work, so this will help out.
[21:04] <mibr001> hello?
[21:05] <dlentz> mibr001, have you dusted/cleaned it lately? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1175054
[21:05] <mibr001> yes
[21:06] <mibr001> the fan does not idle its either full 255 or 0 off
[21:06] <mibr001> kicks in at 59 and out at 46
[21:07] <meco> ikonia:  /etc/apache2/httpd.conf would be my next GUESS, and I'm sorry, I have to guess, because I don't find that any of the files mentioned refers to site configuration in those terms.
[21:08] <mibr001> if it reaches 60 the whole machine dies instantly
[21:09] <lwizardl> hello
[21:09] <mibr001> hi
[21:09] <lwizardl> How do i install the new firefox from the tar file on ubuntu 10.04 lts
[21:09] <drdw> Hiya folks.
[21:10] <mcphail> mibr001: is your BIOS up to date?
[21:10] <rexor> lwizardl, just download form mozzila website
[21:10] <acerimmer> !source|lwizard
[21:10] <drdw> Question about 11.10 installation... during the installation process, what text-based utilities exist for partitioning?  I didn't see the usual fdisk , gdisk or parted...
[21:10] <rexor> lwizardl, and unpack
[21:10] <meco> lwizardl: sudo gksu file, but I'm guessing...
[21:10] <lwizardl> rexbron_, did that but it is a .bz.tar file and I don't see a update or configure in the folder
[21:11] <osmosis> any way to fix unity so that the application menus on the top bar are not all screwed up on my second monitor?
[21:11] <drdw> I'm trying to track down incredibly slow IO during installation.  Can't even complete the installation process it's takings o long.  This is on 3TB drives.
[21:11] <osmosis> I cant even access the application bar in a usable way unless I move the app over to my first monitor.
[21:11] <mcphail> lwizardl: there is a firefox ppa for LTS which makes keeping up-to-date easier
[21:12] <drdw> Wanted to start and make sure secrots were aligned and all that fun stuff, but don't seem to be ablve to find "fdisk"
[21:12] <lwizardl> mcphail, well firefox 10 was just released today so I wan't sure if the ubuntu branded one would already be updated or not
[21:12] <zykotick9> drdw: i don't think fdisk supports drives that large
[21:13] <mcphail> lwizardl: usually comes in a day or so. Much less pain than keeping up with the tarballs
[21:13] <Slart> drdw: I think you can create your partitions before running the installation.. and just tell the installer what you want to use each partition for
[21:13] <drdw> zykotick9: i was fairly sure that newer versions of disk would support it.. regardless, the tool isn't there.
[21:13] <Slart> drdw: that way you can run any live cd you want and use that to do aligment and whatever
[21:13] <lwizardl> mcphail, yeah but I may come across another application later without apt-get features and still need to know how to do it
[21:13] <drdw> Slart: So, is that a way of saying that the Ubuntu 11.10 server installer does not have any tools for performing such tasks?
[21:14] <drdw> zykotick9: Just trying to see what th eoptions are... =)
[21:14] <Slart> drdw: at the moment I'm resizing a 2TB drive to get it aligned correctly.. only 7 hours to go
[21:14] <drdw> Slart: Ouch!
[21:14] <Trevor69420> 7 hours... that sux
[21:15] <drdw> Slart: So going through that pain, did you have bad performance that prompted you to do that?
[21:15] <Slart> drdw: I'm saying that I don't know what the installer uses to partition drives and I don't know if you can get to a shell during the install procedure
[21:15] <mcphail> lwizardl: that is not a road you want to go down if you can avoid it. Each installation process is bespoke - learning one will not help you with the others. Always use the package manager when possible
[21:15] <Slart> drdw: well.. I'm not entirely sure.. but it was kind of slow, yes. Hopefully it will get a bit better
[21:15] <drdw> Slart: ah, gotcha.  the shell remains, alt+f2.
[21:15] <lwizardl> where does ubuntu store the firefox folder ?
[21:15] <drdw> This is orders of magnitude slower than expectations... like.. 100KB / sec, instead of MB.
[21:16] <drdw> Same problem on both the onboard contrtoller and the raid card.
[21:16] <drdw> yeargh.
[21:16] <Slart> drdw: in normal ubuntu, yes.. CTRL+ALT+F[1-6] will get you a shell.. not sure if that is available during the install though
[21:16] <mibr001> i'm trying to use what it says here http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/fancontrol.8.html to change minpwm to a value that'll keep it cool and quiet also i'd like to lower max temp
[21:16] <Slart> drdw: you need the CTRL key if you want to do it from gnome
[21:16] <acerimmer> lwizardl: /home .mozilla
[21:16] <drdw> Slart: That's correct.  I was stating that it does work during the installer, which for servers is text based.. no CTRL necessary.
[21:17] <psychoshield> how do i allow a longer login time on ssh?
[21:17] <Slart> drdw: ah.. my bad then
[21:17] <mcphail> lwizardl: it doesn't store the folder anywhere. It installs the binary in /usr/bin/ etc...
[21:17] <Trevor69420> psychoshield i think there's a timeout option in the ssh config
[21:17] <lwizardl> acerimmer, looks like mine is not there but instead /usr/lib/firefox-9.0.1
[21:17] <drdw> Slart: No worries.  I'll go find some newish live CD to partition with I guess.
[21:17] <drdw> Slart: ty for the perspective.
[21:17] <K350> are you guys aware of any openbox irc channel?
[21:17] <Slart> drdw: you're welcome
[21:18] <amaurea> Hi! After doing a distupgrade to 11.10, one of the keys on my keyboard (the one I use for tilde, charet and umlaut) no longer does anything. How can I fix this?
[21:18] <acerimmer> lwizardl: the recommendation to wait for the ff to hit the official ubuntu repo's is a valid one
[21:18] <stealth_creation> mibr001: I have a link that may be of some use to you. I don't however know how to properly copy and paste into this IRC room.
[21:18] <psychoshield> know the name of it?
[21:18] <stealth_creation> can I pm it to you to peruse?
[21:20] <dewar> Hi, i wonder if anyone can help me, i would like to control the parrell port directly to some electronics, whats the best way to do that?
[21:21] <module000> dewar: you can treat LPT like a file descriptor if are writing a script to control something. what are you working with?
[21:21] <o_> anyone know what the occupy irc server is? or anonymous?
[21:21] <psychoshield> is it connecttimeout?
[21:21] <lwizardl> ok nevermind I got it working
[21:21] <dewar> i have kubuntu on my machine, ive seen that bash can access
[21:22] <mibr001> stealth_creation: how might i find it without you copy/pasteing it?
[21:22] <amaurea> additionally, I can't make any composite symbols either, like e with an accent
[21:22] <calwig> Hi Im trying to scan from a c410a Photosmart Premium with Fax into Xsane
[21:22] <calwig> Ive been to #sane however they dont answer...
[21:22] <calwig> where can I get information on scanning/printing?
[21:23] <psychoshield> how do i allow a longer login time on ssh?
[21:24] <Slart> psychoshield: do you mean the time it takes to enter the password? or some other time?
[21:25] <psychoshield> idle time till it disconnects you from the ssh
[21:25] <Slart> psychoshield: you mean something like this? http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/keep-your-linux-ssh-session-from-disconnecting/
[21:25] <goddard> anyone know what this does  ? http://pastebin.com/pvT7nXGX
[21:25] <shaneo> hey guys i recently updated from i386 to amd64 cause i upgrade my ram. Problem is apt is still fetching i386 and amd64 repos how do i get it to point to only the amd64
[21:26] <psychoshield> ya cause ill walk away come back and i get kicked out :(
[21:26] <acerimmer> shaneo: you need to edit your software sources
[21:26] <Slart> shaneo: ehm.. updated from i386 to amd64 ? I didn't think that was possible.. I'm pretty sure a reinstall is the recommended way to go
[21:26] <psychoshield> so just add ServerAlive?
[21:26] <zeshoem> how do I disable the firewall in Ubuntu 11.10?
[21:26] <psychoshield> ServerAliveInterval 60
[21:26] <acerimmer> shaneo: slart is right - reinstall is best
[21:27] <Slart> psychoshield: I haven't tried it myself so I wouldn't know.. but it's worth a try
[21:28] <zykotick9> shaneo: you can't really upgrade from i386 to amd64 without reinstalling.  The new multiarch feature will show :i386 and :amd64 for many packages regardless of what you do.
[21:28] <rbnswartz> I'm setting up a apache server and I was curious if I should put a site in /var/www or put it in the home directory (for easy ftp access) and then link to it via a symbolic link
[21:28] <meco> ikonia: /etc/apache2/sites-available/default ?
[21:29] <stealth_creation> psychoshield: I googled ServerAlive, and it has corrected someone else's issue, the page I got to says that it keeps the connection even while idle.
[21:29] <psychoshield> k :)
[21:29] <psychoshield> about to add it
[21:29] <stealth_creation> they added the value of 5
[21:29] <zeshoem> How can I enable ssh server?
[21:30] <Trevor69420> lol
[21:30] <Trevor69420> first u need OpenSSH installed
[21:30] <alexGla> need a software for creating database and playing with queries. something similar like MS Access
[21:30] <mcphail> oh dear...
[21:30] <Trevor69420> that lol was meant for someone else sorry
[21:30] <rbnswartz> alexGla: have you tried open office base?
[21:30] <psychoshield> wish me luck :)
[21:31] <Trevor69420> zeshoem: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[21:31] <alexGla> rbnswartz, no. i think i don`t have it on ubuntu 10
[21:32] <zeshoem> Thanks Trevor69420
[21:33] <rbnswartz> alexGLA Install the libreoffice-base package
[21:34] <alexGla> rbnswartz, what about sql developer?
[21:37] <rbnswartz> alexGla, I'm fairly certain that base has sql support built in but if you want experience with a larger scale database you could set up a mysql server
[21:37] <manisabri> Hi ,why unity in 11.04 works smoother without ATI proprietary drivers?!
[21:38] <alexGla> rbnswartz, no, i need just for one of my assessed exercises on database class
[21:38] <alexGla> how can i install office base?
[21:38] <rbnswartz> alexGla search for libreoffice base in the softaware center
[21:39] <Lars_G> Is there a (semi) offitial repo out there for firefox newest (non beta. 10 in this case) for 11.10?
[21:40] <alexGla> rbnswartz, have found openOffice database
[21:40] <auronandace> !info firefox | Lars_G
[21:41] <Lars_G> auronandace: hmmm ok so we have an old-world-firefox close cycle? or is 10 too recent for being packaged yet?
[21:41] <auronandace> Lars_G: can't you wait till the repo gets updated to include 10?
[21:41] <rbnswartz> alexGla I would recommend Libreoffice base of Openoffice base but either will do
[21:41] <Lars_G> auronandace: Oh well I'll go with tar-gz versions. thanks
[21:42] <asif> hi all
[21:42] <asif> having problems at bootup
[21:42] <Lars_G> I hope I can find a way to make deb packages out of binaries. i don't want to compile firefox :P not on an atom
[21:42] <asif> failes to load gui
[21:42] <Lars_G> auronandace: thanks
[21:42] <asif> stays at command prompt asking for ligin credentials
[21:42] <asif> login*
[21:42] <pedro> how do i get a better perfomance in my Lubuntu?
[21:42] <asif> can anyone help please?
[21:42] <Trevor69420> ewww command prompt
[21:43] <auronandace> Lars_G: i didn't help much, but your welcome :)
[21:43] <Trevor69420> this aint no windows channel
[21:43] <asif> watever trevor
[21:43] <Lars_G> asif: Well first quick test, see if your Xorg loads. Login in console and run "startx" as your user. see if it loads/starts
[21:44] <kuhno_> asif: i once had this problem and found out that for some reason there was the 'rescue' parameter in the boot commend line
[21:44] <kuhno_> or somehing like that
[21:44] <Lars_G> auronandace: I found this, in case you wanna know http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/firefox-10-released/
[21:44] <meco> I'm unable to view http://localhost/cgi/smokeping.cgi. I'm trying to figure out what I need to do to make it work. smokeping.cgi is located in the cgi dir as specified in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default, and the +ExecCGI is also set. Can anyone assist?
[21:44] <auronandace> Lars_G: i use chromium instead, thanks for the info though
[21:45] <Lars_G> auronandace: It's always better to know than to ignore :D I switch daily between ff and chrome
[21:45] <DinoMuffin> meco: isn't there an apache irc channel?
[21:45] <pedro> how do i configure my chromium for using it for bank's page?
[21:45] <asif> k, ill be back after another boot
[21:45] <asif> hopefully
[21:45] <asif> thanks all
[21:45] <Lars_G> meco: 2 things, a) better ask in #apache and b) you need to define a cgi handler for .cgi files, most probably
[21:45] <zykotick9> DinoMuffin: meco #httpd i believe is apache channel
[21:46] <Lars_G> asif: You're welcome, you can ignore me any time you wish
[21:46] <Lars_G> ah well
[21:46] <DinoMuffin> yeah
[21:46] <auronandace> pedro: banks page? what bank website? does it use java?
[21:46] <meco> I'll try #httpd
[21:46] <Lars_G> pedro: if it doesnt work, it's your bank's work to fix it, not yours
[21:46] <Lars_G> pedro: Unless it's a missing java like auronandace mentions
[21:46] <pedro> auronandace: yes it does
[21:46] <kuhno_> i got a problem with xscreensaver in ubuntu. it always tells me the entered password is wrong. killing it via another session is the only workaround i know. the pw has no keyboard specific chars and works everywhere except xscreensaver.
[21:46] <Lars_G> meco: #apache takes you to the right place
[21:46] <meco> ok
[21:46] <auronandace> pedro: thats awful, complain to your bank
[21:47] <Lars_G> pedro: you need a jre package with plugin... let me see.....
[21:47] <Lars_G> auronandace: It can be worse, much much much worse.
[21:47] <pedro> thanks
[21:47] <Lars_G> pedro: sun-java6-plugin might b a good choice
[21:47] <vn> heya, how can I let an user run a bash script as root without him being into sudoers?  setuid doesn't seem to do it..
[21:47] <mibr001> acer aspire 5520 running ubuntu 10.10 is overheating im trying ti adjust min fan speed i do not have pwm and i have difficulty configuring fancontrol can anybody help me with anything also id like to lover my max temp as it is 55 and the machine dies at 60
[21:48] <Lars_G> auronandace: Our bank demands we use a KNOW INSECURE version of java to enter their corporative page
[21:48] <pedro> i'll search
[21:48] <pedro> thanks for both :D
[21:48] <Lars_G> pedro: In theory openjdk (iced tea) should work too and is more open but i used to have some troubles with icedtea 6 and certificates for a while
[21:48] <mibr001> ?
[21:50] <kuhno_> mibr001, first i would clean the fan (and use new thermal grease)
[21:50] <Lars_G> vn: you can suid the script
[21:51] <Lars_G> vn: ah no idea then sorry
[21:51] <asif> back all, looks like it loaded the gui aotmatically
[21:51] <asif> automatically*
[21:51] <asif> weird
[21:51] <kuhno_> what did you change, asif?
[21:51] <asif> sod all
[21:51] <asif> :)
[21:52] <asif> as much as I hate windows, im beginning to realise that i can see why most people would want to go with windows
[21:52] <asif> after theye used ubuntu
[21:52] <useful__idiot> oh?
[21:52] <asif> too many quirky issues
[21:53] <asif> but i still like it though
[21:53] <asif> just annoying
[21:53] <useful__idiot> true, but most people buy dr dre beatz headphones also
[21:53] <mibr001> i did clean the fan i'm looking into thermal grease i still want to change the settings id like to keep it between 30-45
[21:53] <Lars_G> I would like to try unity for xfce
[21:53] <Lars_G> :P
[21:53] <auronandace> asif: if you are using unity, then yes, quirky issues galore
[21:53] <asif> how would i know if im using unity?
[21:53] <asif> im using 10.10
[21:53] <iceroot> useful__idiot: or apple-products
[21:53] <asif> 10.04 was better
[21:53] <Lars_G> useful__idiot: man, you just had to go there, didn't you?
[21:53] <asif> stable i mean
[21:54] <asif> lss issues
[21:54] <useful__idiot> =D
[21:54] <pedro> aurnandace: Finally Thanks for helping a soldier
[21:54] <Lars_G> asif: Well at least I'm happy now that kernel 3.1 fixed my long standing acpi issue
[21:54] <auronandace> asif: oh, 10.10 was gnome2
[21:54] <auronandace> pedro: what did i do?
[21:54] <Lars_G> asif: 10.10 or 11.10?
[21:55] <asif> Lars_G:10.10
[21:55] <asif> ?
[21:56] <Lars_G> auronandace: Try to run unity on my netbook.... it crawls
[21:56] <Lars_G> auronandace: it's the day of the living dead
[21:56] <auronandace> Lars_G: i'm glad i only use xfce
[21:56] <Lars_G> auronandace: I do too
[21:56] <kuhno_> me too :)
[21:56] <pedro> i burned my laptop
[21:56] <kuhno_> i started using it when things like unity became popular
[21:57] <pedro> its a dell
[21:57] <gridbag> The latest VirtualBox doesn't seem to run on the latest 11.10 ubuntu release. The DownloadExtras link is wrong, and it gets stuck.
[21:57] <pedro> it's got the video card burned
[21:57] <stefan_> nice
[21:58] <mibr001> i'm trying to get my acer aspire 5520 running ubuntu 10.10 to stay between 30-45 Celsius note im a basic user so if this requires anything in terminal if you could tell me exactly what to type thatd be great
[21:58] <OerHeks> !lmsensors
[21:59] <busybyeski> hi squad! i'm 1000 miles away from my computer illiterate dad. he's got ocelot configured on one machine, but brought another home from work that he wants to use instead.  is there a way to "ghost" or image his setup from one computer to another, or is he better off with a fresh install?
[21:59] <winnie666> hello! can i use rsync in casper-bottom scripts?
[21:59] <mibr001> ubottu tries that cant figure out how to configure them
[21:59] <Lars_G> busybyeski: g4l
[21:59] <busybyeski> Lars_G: is it in the standard repository?
[22:00] <kuhno_> busybyeski, id take the kard disk out and put it into the other machine
[22:00] <OerHeks> busybyeski, with a fast internet connection, install is quick. without you could clone your install
[22:00] <busybyeski> :D
[22:00] <Lars_G> busybyeski: it's rather a booteable system.
[22:00] <Lars_G> but I agree with OerHeks
[22:00] <urlin2u> busybyeski, driver problems could be a problem with a image.
[22:00] <OerHeks> !cloning
[22:01] <iceroot> urlin2u: there are no driver-issues with a cloned system, the kernel is deciding what to start on boot depending on the hardware
[22:01] <psychoshield> well that didnt work
[22:01] <psychoshield> still got disconnected
[22:01] <Lars_G> urlin2u: we're talking about ubuntu.
[22:01] <urlin2u> iceroot, I did not see the suggestion of a clone.
[22:01] <mibr001> and that's my computer overheating and dying
[22:01] <_cb> Am getting Unable to initialize GTK when trying to run virt-manager. Any ideas?
[22:01] <yadira> every time i boot i get a screen telling me press S to skip and some other option
[22:02] <Lars_G> yadira: You probably have a non-present drive listed in /etc/fstab
[22:02] <urlin2u> yadira, is it a disc check or is the swap not being mounted?
[22:02] <mibr001> does anyone here have experience controlling the fan in ubuntu 10.10 on an acer aspire 5520?
[22:02] <psychoshield> ServerAliveInterval 5 did nothing
[22:03] <yadira> Lars_G, how can i reset fstab
[22:03] <pedro> vido card burned
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> mibr001: are there any bugs reported?
[22:03] <yadira> urlin2u, how can i identify if any is mounted ?
[22:04] <Lars_G> yadira: it's set by hand not reset, if you've not changed it, doubt it's that then.
[22:04] <yadira> urlin2u, in system monitor i get a swap memory next to ram ;)
[22:04] <ZynuiMaiche> Hello!  I had a quick question about alias ing.  I've saved the alias I want into my .bashrc but it still doesn't show up.  Any clues?
[22:04] <urlin2u> yadira, I just have conky to tell me you can see in gparted if it is there are commands I don't know them.
[22:04] <Lars_G> yadira: Maybe your root disk needs a check already (it does every x number of restarts)
[22:04] <mibr001> no i have atemp monitor the cpu hits 60 the screen goes black and the power is gone almost as if you pulled the battery, i wait about 10 secs and turn it back on
[22:04] <urlin2u> !swap > yadira
[22:04] <pedro> video card burned by usage
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> mibr001: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1175054
[22:04] <zykotick9> ZynuiMaiche: did you restart bash?
[22:04] <Lars_G> pedro: not ussage, missussage I guess. Either a dustfull dissipator or a broken fan cooler
[22:05] <ZynuiMaiche> hmmm how do I do that? just close the terminal and reopen it?
[22:05] <zykotick9> ZynuiMaiche: or type "bash" either should work
[22:05] <yadira> is there a command to restore fstab to defaults ?
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> ZynuiMaiche: if you run:  source ~/.bashrc    it will apply
[22:05] <Lars_G> mibr001: That's a failsafe in the bios.
[22:05] <Lars_G> mibr001: to avoid the cpu burning
[22:05] <ZynuiMaiche> zykotick9: Lol that was it :)
[22:06] <urlin2u> yadira, no but I will have the bot give you info.
[22:06] <ZynuiMaiche> Thanks for the help, you too ActionParsnip
[22:06] <urlin2u> !fstab >  yadira
[22:06] <Lars_G> mibr001: I'd search on google about your model and "acpi" it would be acpi responsible for controlling the fan. In the beggining
[22:06] <mibr001> yes, im trying to get the fan to idle instead of shutting off and to lower the max speed kick in temp
[22:07] <Lars_G> mibr001: so it turns on and off? it's possible acpi is seeying it, but whoever has control (gnome probably) has a different idea of what you want.
[22:07] <pedro> Broken laptoooop someone somebody
[22:07] <pedro> :'/
[22:07] <urlin2u> yadira, if you need the swap fixed run blkid in the terminal to get the uuid and open fstab with a editor and put the correct uuid in
[22:07] <lordjj> Hey. Are Xorg.0.log and Xorg.1.log logs that span from previous boots or just from the current boot.
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> mibr001: http://askubuntu.com/questions/92660/how-to-get-the-laptop-fan-cooler-to-work-on-an-acer-aspire-5315    may help, Acer have a lot of fan issues usually due to proprietary hardware blobs. I suggest you report a bug
[22:08] <mcphail> !info fancontrol | mibr001
[22:08] <urlin2u> yadira, sudo gedit /etc/fstab     wil lopen fstab for edit
[22:08] <winnie666> does anyone know where the openssh-server startup scipt is located?
[22:08] <yadira> i got this on terminal ; /dev/sda1: LABEL="Yari's Kitchen" UUID="f22b7eac-0ea7-4d62-9d7f-79e66a912add" TYPE="ext4"
[22:08] <yadira> /dev/sda5: UUID="fea43e03-d4bd-492c-bb98-153925fe367c" TYPE="swap"
[22:08] <zykotick9> !gksudo | urlin2u
[22:08] <urlin2u> zykotick9, ah for fstab?
[22:09] <zykotick9> urlin2u: don't use "sudo gedit..." use "gksudo gedit..."
[22:09] <kuhno_> or just use sudo nano
[22:09] <mibr001> fan control is too much control not enough fan i tried to configure it it wouldnt let me edit it
[22:09] <urlin2u> yadira, gksudo gedit /etc/fstb
[22:09] <urlin2u> kuhno_, nano is sort of geekvill is all I would say.
[22:09] <urlin2u> nano
[22:10] <yadira> urlin2u, http://pastebin.com/Ye77xCjD
[22:10] <mcphail> mibr001: there used to be a gnome applet which let you alter fan parameters. I don't know if it is still present
[22:10] <lordjj> How far back do Xorg.0.log and Xorg.1.log go? Since startup? Or include previous boots too?
[22:11] <urlin2u> yadira, post the output of blkid as well
[22:11] <zykotick9> lordjj: previous boots as well (it would be determined by logrotate)
[22:11] <lordjj> zykotick9 any way to tell when each message occured? Or at least how many boots ago?
[22:12] <zykotick9> lordjj: if they aren't time/date stamped, then I have no idea
[22:12] <yadira> urlin2u, blkid output = http://pastebin.com/nG1yD7tV
[22:13] <lordjj> zykotick9 ok, what can I look for in log rotate to know about whether it contains previous boots, and what's the filename exactly?
[22:13] <lordjj> is it /etc/cron.daily/logrotate ?
[22:14] <kuhno_> can someone help me now with my xscreensaver not accepting the correct password?
[22:14] <zacktu> is installadobeflash.so a file to be executed (./installadobeflash.so)?
[22:14] <zykotick9> lordjj: i have no idea, i've never altered it.  good luck.
[22:14] <lordjj> thanks.
[22:14] <urlin2u> yadira, with a quick glance I don't see this ntfs /dev/sdb1 showing in your blkid what was opr is that?
[22:14] <urlin2u> or
[22:15] <zykotick9> kuhno_: is turning the lock feature off, an option for you?  i searched google when you asked before, i didn't find anything helpful.
[22:15] <kuhno_> if therer
[22:15] <eadek> Hello!
[22:15] <kuhno_> if there is no other way i'll do that
[22:16] <heizmann> Hi, all. I'm french. I'm searching a good tts with pretty french voices :-/ I think programs which are available with Synaptic are poor... any idea, please?
[22:17] <urlin2u> yadira, this is in the fstab for mounting , but not showing in the blkid command as being available. /dev/sdb1 :
[22:17] <urlin2u> UUID=0EF08C21F08C10DF   /media/System\040Reserved       ntfs-3g
[22:17] <heizmann> I had tried some programs like espeak or mbrola... but the french voices are very poor :-/
[22:17] <pjotter> Hallo. Iemand hier heeft me laatst een tip gegeven over hoe je een addon moet forceren om compatible te zijn in firefox. Er was de een of andere addon die dat mogelijk maakt. Weet iemand welke addon dat was? Ik wil Moonlight installeren in firefox 9.0.1
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> heizmann: http://espeak.sourceforge.net/add_language.html
[22:17] <yadira> urlin2u, can i make it look like this ? http://pastebin.com/7iT9ufAr
[22:18] <asif> does anyone know of ANY linux distro where DRM content works?
[22:18] <yadira> urlin2u, and restar,,will anything happend abnormal ?
[22:18] <kuhno_> pjotter, this is an englisch channel. for dutch please use #ubuntu-nl
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> asif: I don't think it is available afaik
[22:18] <quiescens> urlin2u: you should technically sudo blkid
[22:18] <pjotter> kuhno_: My mistake, sorry. I'll take the question to the -nl channel.
[22:18] <asif> ActionParsnip:not too happy with that
[22:19] <urlin2u> yadira, just removing the line I pointed out? you can just comment it out with #, you also show no swap do you have one?
 well, I'm looking for, thanks but espeak s*cks with french voices :-S
[22:19] <magnus___> hello! is it possible to boot to terminal directly? Ubuntu on one of my computer goes blank after loading the loginscreen
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> asif: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/can-linux-on-the-desktop-and-drm-ever-coexist/13055
[22:20] <urlin2u> quiescens, thanks for the OCD.
[22:20] <yadira> urlin2u, yes i have swap 6.1 GB,,at least thats what system monitor shows me
[22:20] <zykotick9> asif: http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm
[22:20] <kuhno_> zykotick9, how can i go on now? write a bug report for xscreensaver?
[22:20] <asif> ActionParsnip: i read that article today
[22:20] <asif> thanks Parsnip
[22:20] <simone> ciao
[22:20] <simone> !lista
[22:20] <zykotick9> kuhno_: are you sure it's xscreensaver?  or could it be gnome-screensaver?
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> asif: netflix is apparently coming to Linux soon (although I think it will be the same way steam is 'coming') so maybe something is happening
[22:21] <simone> !lista
[22:22] <quiescens> urlin2u: well, technically as in, it really can have different output, sudo blkid is 5 lines for me, and blkid is 2 lines
[22:22] <LoaferDTD> Anyone have any ideas why I would be apt would be serving up two different versions of postgresql for two different machines? They are both running 11.04. One machine is getting 9.1 and the other is getting 8.4 even after doing apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[22:22] <kuhno_> zykotick9, i am not using gnome, it is xscreensaver
[22:22] <urlin2u> yadira here is my fstab, honestly I don't have the time to walk you completely through this but others can.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/825725/
[22:22]  * quiescens shrugs
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> simone: it wont have changed in 60 seconds, trust me
[22:22] <lelouch> Hello ALL neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedbeckup !!!!!
[22:22] <kuhno_> zykotick9, at least i kill the xscreensaverprocess to bypass the password prompt
[22:23] <Slart> LoaferDTD: different repositories(woftware sources?
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> LoaferDTD: compare  sources.list as well as the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> !backup | lelouch
[22:24] <lelouch> ActionParsnip: i mean i need help i didn't mean beckup XD
[22:24] <mcphail> LoaferDTD: what is the output of "apt-cache policy postgresql" on both machines?
[22:24] <zykotick9> kuhno_: that's xscreensaver then ;)  well you could try submitting a bug i suppose (i suspect user error however).
[22:24] <yadira> this is my swap,,how can i add it to fstab ?
[22:24] <yadira> /dev/sda5: UUID="fea43e03-d4bd-492c-bb98-153925fe367c" TYPE="swap" \
[22:24] <lelouch>  Dépend: kdenlive-data (= 0.8.2.1-0ubuntu0~sunab~oneiric1) but 0.8.3+git20120128.821fc6d0-0ubuntu0~sunab~oneiric1 must be instaled
[22:24] <urlin2u> quiescens, yeah but the user figured it out I would say ere mind your own business, it is hard enough to get stuff exacting with retentive posts.
[22:24] <phenzen> Hello everyone, have a strange problem if anyone can help. I have a 2.6Ghz CPU, 3gb ram, 1TB Hdd, and 128MB video card. im on 10.04 and no matter what version i use, they all act slow and very sluggish, any suggestions?
[22:24] <urlin2u> here*
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> lelouch: then just ask
[22:25] <lelouch>  Dépend: kdenlive-data (= 0.8.2.1-0ubuntu0~sunab~oneiric1) but 0.8.3+git20120128.821fc6d0-0ubuntu0~sunab~oneiric1 must be instaled
[22:25] <lelouch> ActionParsnip: Dépend: kdenlive-data (= 0.8.2.1-0ubuntu0~sunab~oneiric1) but 0.8.3+git20120128.821fc6d0-0ubuntu0~sunab~oneiric1 must be instaled
[22:25] <mibr001> acer aspire 5520 running ubuntu 10.10 currently 45-55 celsius kills machine at 60 i want it to run 30 - 45 kill at 55
[22:25] <kuhno_> zykotick9, i had this with a previous xubuntu 11.10, did not have it with fedora+xfce+xscreensaver and having it again directly after installing
[22:25] <LoaferDTD> mcphail, one moment
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> yadira:   the line will be:    UUID=fea43e03-d4bd-492c-bb98-153925fe367c none            swap    sw              0       0
[22:25] <quiescens> ..
[22:25] <lelouch> ActionParsnip: this is my problem i need it really and can't use it
[22:26] <lelouch> ActionParsnip: i have  a depend problem
[22:26] <quiescens> i thought it might have been relevant and might help just in case whatever they were looking for didn't show in blkid but would show up in sudo blkid
[22:26] <mibr001> it is a compatability issue acer fans dont like ubuntu so i manually have to set the limits
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> !info kdenlive-data
[22:26] <kuhno_> zykotick9, the password just consists of a,e,i,m,n,o,s and numbers, no key which is changed in my localized kayboard layout (german)
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> lelouch: is the universe repo enabled?
[22:27] <asif> phenzen:try using kubuntu, or the kubuntu desktop
[22:27] <lelouch> ActionParsnip: !!?
[22:27] <zykotick9> kuhno_: well, good luck.  sorry i don't have any suggestions at all.
[22:27] <netrage> can someone pivate msg or msg me here on how to disable "FireBug" Please.
[22:27] <kuhno_> thank you anyway
[22:27] <asif> i believe it is for machines with less graphics/cpu capabilities
[22:27] <lelouch> ActionParsnip: you mean the repository !! ? yes
[22:28] <netrage> yes
[22:28] <ZynuiMaiche> Anybody here know how to install Matlab?  I tried installing the way the website says but i'm stuck at step 1...
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> lelouch: there is the package you need at a later version in the default oneiric repo...
[22:28] <zykotick9> asif: KDE is even heavier resource wise then Gnome3
[22:28] <phenzen> asif, you think kubuntu might work?
[22:28] <ZynuiMaiche> i have the .iso file (my netbook doesn't have a CD drive)
[22:28] <mibr001> increasing fan rpm bith max and idle will also do the trick as it only overheats majorly when not suspended by two small cardboard boxes (to allow increased airflow)
[22:29] <asif> zykotick9:i didnt realise it was heavier, thats not what I have read up about it
[22:29] <LoaferDTD> mcphail, never mind.. It seems like they aren't the same version of ubuntu. I could have sworn they were
[22:29] <yadira> ActionParsnip, at boot i see a screen telling me to press S to skip and some other option,,,here is my fstab = http://pastebin.com/ewJGPtY3 & blkid = http://pastebin.com/nG1yD7tV  do i need to remove the NFTS entry ?
[22:29] <psychoshield> Can someone help me figure out the serveralive thing... ServerAliveInterval 5 is what i have set but i keep getting booted
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> lelouch: did you add a PPA called sunab?
[22:29] <zykotick9> asif: xfce/lxde are lighter, kde is a memory/resourse hog
[22:29] <LoaferDTD> oh well. mcphail, how can I upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10
[22:29] <lelouch> ActionParsnip: well i know that i should install 0.8.3 ubuntu sunab onric
[22:29] <dinomuffin> psychoshield, for ssh?
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> lelouch: we can't support PPAs here
[22:29] <lelouch> ActionParsnip: but sudo apt-get update didn't work
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> yadira: worth a try
[22:30] <acerimmer> ZynuiMaiche: try #matlab
[22:30] <netrage> i upgraded and it was a snap use the site
[22:30] <psychoshield> yes
[22:30] <mcphail> LoaferDTD: through the upgrade manager. But these days I recommend a reinstall
[22:30] <psychoshield> dinomuffin
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> lelouch: what is the output of:  sudo apt-get update    please, use http://pastie.org
[22:30] <psychoshield> its in the ssh_config
[22:30] <ZynuiMaiche> lol got it didn't realize there was a room thanks acerimmer
[22:30] <dinomuffin> psychoshield, ServerAliveInterval
[22:30] <phenzen> zykotick9, what would you recommend?
[22:30] <lelouch> ActionParsnip: how can i use it ?!!
[22:30] <esuave> anyone know of any good tutorials to learn sed / awk?
[22:31] <OerHeks> ZynuiMaiche, you follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MATLAB ?
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> lelouch: use what?
[22:31] <zykotick9> phenzen: it's impossible to recommed a DE, it's too much personal preference involved
[22:31] <mcphail> esuave: there is an excellent o'reilly book
[22:31] <psychoshield> dinomuffin under host i have # ServerAliveInterval 5
[22:31] <mibr001> does anyone know of a fan control app with a gui for 10.10
[22:31] <dinomuffin> psychoshield, doesn't need to be that high
[22:31] <phenzen> thats true, but honestly right now i dont care i just dont wanna install win 7 again lol
[22:31] <dinomuffin> psychoshield, 100 should be fine
[22:31] <lelouch> ActionParsnip: you said please, use pastie.org
[22:31] <yadira> ActionParsnip, so it will look like this,,im sorry im not so good at this,,can u make sure im right,,i read if i make a mistake here is painfull...http://pastebin.com/7iT9ufAr
[22:31] <esuave> mcphail: thanks! ill try and find it
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> mibr001: I wouldn't bother with Maverick too much. It dies in April
[22:32] <psychoshield> ok let me try
[22:32] <netrage> wow no channel ops...just floobots.....lol was an op years back on AUS net    i'm gonna jet be back soon i'm gonna whack that fire bug or change browsers...lol
[22:32] <mibr001> do fans run any batter after upgrade?
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> lelouch: run the command and copy the text, go to the site and paste the text and hit paste. When the page changes. Copy the address in the address bar and paste it here
[22:32] <mibr001> it says aprx 4 hours which most likely means 8
[22:32] <netrage> thanks you all, good to have IRC around still
[22:33] <nirvana> bonne soir
[22:33] <yadira> mibr001, i doubt fans runs better after updates,,thats hardware issues :(
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> netrage: there are ops here, or if necessary then can join
[22:33] <aurbus> hey
[22:33] <netrage> thanks action thats good to knoe
[22:33] <netrage> know
[22:33] <mibr001> what i'm saying is if i need to fix the fan issue manually ill do it with this version upgrading takes too long
[22:33] <UbuntuUser123> Does anyone know how to run Lineage2 on ubuntu 11.10?
[22:34] <ZynuiMaiche> OerHeks: i'm reworking it to see if I just made a silly mistake :)
[22:34] <netrage> k, later Action see ya in a bit
[22:34] <aurbus> does anyone know how to run windows live messenger on ubuntu ?
[22:34] <mibr001> AMSN
[22:34] <aurbus> not amsn it sucks
[22:35] <aurbus> there is a way with wine
[22:35] <LoaferDTD> mcphail, why do you recommend a reinstall over an upgrade?
[22:35] <Olte> hello , please help me with my microphone :( it was working quietly , and when i changed something in synaptic package manager it stopped work :(
[22:35] <zykotick9> LoaferDTD: upgrades often lead to issues
[22:35] <warfaren> aurbus: why does it suck? i think it's great
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> UbuntuUser123: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er4FQW8Zo3g   seems to run
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> aurbus: emesene
[22:36] <aurbus> yeah it is indeed but i doesn't fully support arabic
[22:36] <aurbus> emesene too
[22:36] <warfaren> ah ok
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> aurbus: pidgin
[22:36] <mcphail> LoaferDTD: some newer gui features tend to be suppressed by upgrades. And I find a reinstall much faster and a good "spring clean"
[22:36] <OerHeks> aurbus check wineHQ database, WLM2011 does not run well
[22:36] <UbuntuUser123> i watched that
[22:36] <zykotick9> irssi + bitlebee :p
[22:36] <warfaren> perhaps you could request better support for arabic in #amsn
[22:37] <aurbus> do you have any idea how to install windows live on wine ?
[22:37] <UbuntuUser123> that is old version od ubuntu and lineage2
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | aurbus
[22:37] <lelouch> ActionParsnip: how can i delet a repo from comand line
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> UbuntuUser123: you could stillcontact the user
[22:37] <mibr001> how to change idle fan speed easily with 10.10 hurry i'm melting as we speak
[22:37] <UbuntuUser123> when I open l2.exe nothing happens
[22:37] <mibr001> lol
[22:37] <OerHeks> aurbus, not, it is garbage >> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=127
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> lelouch: install ppa-purge
[22:38] <acerimmer> UbuntuUser123: permissions - you have to set that .exe to "executable"
[22:38] <zykotick9> UbuntuUser123: l2.exe, have you checked the WineDB?  Link from ubottu above
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> aurbus: if you have the space, you could try kopete
[22:38] <lelouch> ActionParsnip: what should i use it for ?!
[22:38] <LoaferDTD> mcphail, how about for servers?
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> lelouch: the same ppa address you added it with, just with ppa-purge
[22:39] <yadira> ActionParsnip, i deleted the nfts entry and i dont get that screen at booy any more,,,thanks so much for the confirmation :)
[22:39] <mcphail> LoaferDTD: i use plain debian on servers so I don't know what is recommended for ubuntu updates
[22:40] <UbuntuUser123> no I didn't, I listed l2.exe in wine configuration...set to run on win xp, but nothing changes
[22:40] <UbuntuUser123> same problem
[22:40] <zykotick9> UbuntuUser123: the #winehq channel might have some insights?
[22:40] <mcphail> LoaferDTD: I'd imagine an edit to /etc/apt/sources.list and an aptitude update && aptitude safe-upgrade would do the trick but don't quote me on that
[22:41] <UbuntuUser123> I copied my L2 from windows, that doesnt run, but when I installed L2 on wine it opens but there are no buttons in game to click...
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> mcphail: aptitude isn't in the default install now
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> UbuntuUser123: i'd ask in #winehq
[22:41] <mcphail> ActionParsnip: yes, but it is the first thing I ever install
[22:42] <mibr001> someone with alot of time and knowledge with fan/cooling settings in 10.10 wanna pm me?
[22:42] <zykotick9> mcphail: safe-upgrade wouldn't upgrade much
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> mcphail: maybe but users probably won't so they wll get 'command not foud' errors. I suggest you stick to apt-get if you want to advise effectively
[22:43] <mcphail> ActionParsnip: if you read my quote I was admitting ignorance, not knowledge ;)
[22:43] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: i noticed earlier that the !clone factoid still uses aptitude
[22:44] <mcphail> zykotick9: yes s/safe/dist
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: sounds like a mew one needs suggesting ;)
[22:45] <kuhno_> configure: error: Couldn't find X11 headers/libs.  <-- what packages are needed to resolve that?
[22:46] <kuhno_> libx11-data is installed
[22:46] <dinomuffin> hm
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> kuhno_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1352822
[22:47] <lelouch> ActionParsnip: done how can i downgrade the melt now from 0.7.7 to 0.7.6 ?
[22:47] <UbuntuUser123> I have one more problem on other comp. When I install ubuntu, it works really slow... everything is slow... but win xp works fine... my graphic card does not support unity, I select Ubuntu2D but its the same, no efects, but it's still slow...
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> lelouch: reinstall the package, may do it
[22:47] <goddard> is there a developer channel for ubuntu
[22:48] <kuhno_> thanks, but now i feel guilty for not searching myself...
[22:48] <lelouch> ActionParsnip: reinstall gona downgrade it ?!
[22:48] <p1pp0_666> join irc://irc.platinumirc.org/angel_dreams
[22:48] <D4rth_B4n3> ;) pkill worked
[22:48] <p1pp0_666> #join irc://irc.platinumirc.org/angel_dreams
[22:48] <mibr001> computer is slightly choked sitting on table how besides  a chillmat can i make it run cooler
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> lelouch: worth a try
[22:48] <psychoshield> dinomuffin the # ServerAliveInterval 100 didnt work
[22:49] <dinomuffin> psychoshield: is the server you're connecting to your own server?
[22:49] <psychoshield> ya
[22:49] <dinomuffin> hm
[22:49] <psychoshield> its hosted at kimsurf
[22:49] <meme> hi all
[22:49] <remz> wondering if anyone can help me -pm-
[22:49] <meme> somebody want to help me?
[22:50] <dinomuffin> and you restart ssh after applying the new value, right?
[22:50] <psychoshield> ya but it cant find the keys
[22:50] <dinomuffin> the rsa keys?
[22:51] <psychoshield> ya
[22:52] <psychoshield> Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key same with the other
[22:52] <lelouch> ActionParsnip: so there are no general rule for downgrage ?!!
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> remz: ask in the channel, more eyes = more solutions
[22:52] <psychoshield> start-stop-daemon: warning: failed to kill 31933: Operation not permitted
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> lelouch: you will need to remove the package then reinstall it
[22:52] <zykotick9> !ask | meme
[22:53] <dinomuffin> what command did you run to restart it?
[22:53] <psychoshield> forgot to do sudo however with sudo it suggested to do restart ssh
[22:53] <psychoshield> so i did
[22:53] <psychoshield> ssh start/running, process 11288
[22:53] <psychoshield> is what i get
[22:53] <mcphail> lelouch: you can ask apt-get to install a particular package version
[22:53] <meme> ok.i just want to know if i can access wireless if i running ubuntu from usb?
[22:53] <dinomuffin> sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[22:53] <dinomuffin> right ?
[22:54] <zykotick9> psychoshield: are you editing /etc/ssh/sshd_config - the d is daemon, or server
[22:54] <psychoshield> i did ssh_config
[22:54] <mcphail> lelouch: "A specific version of a package can be selected for installation by following the package name with an equals and the version of the package to select."
[22:54] <zykotick9> dinomuffin: using init.d to restart services is deprecated in some ways.  "sudo service foo restart" would be better
[22:54] <dinomuffin> sure
[22:54] <dinomuffin> either works
[22:55] <psychoshield> does the ServerAliveInterval go in ssh or sshd_config
[22:56] <mibr001> haillo
[22:56] <dinomuffin> it goes in ssh_config on your local pc
[22:56] <psychoshield> but im trying to set it server wide
[22:57] <mibr001> ...
[22:57] <dinomuffin> then use ClientAliveInterval in the sshd_config for your server
[22:57] <psychoshield> set that at 100 too?
[22:57] <dinomuffin> sure
[22:57] <psychoshield> just paste ClientAliveInterva at the bottom since its not in there?
[22:58] <dinomuffin> that should be fine
[22:58] <psychoshield> k rebooted ssh time to wait
[22:59] <dinomuffin> psychoshield: it should work. I thought you were doing it on your local machine, and not your server
[22:59] <psychoshield> nope was doing it on my server... thought i mentioned it
[22:59] <Lineage2> I need help opening Lineage2Freya on Ubuntu. Can anyone help?
[23:00] <dinomuffin> I must of missed it then
[23:00] <Lineage2> pm me pliz
[23:00] <psychoshield> or i answered yes then i mentioned it was hosted at kimisurf
[23:01] <myk_robinson> In 11.10, are any of you having trouble with Skype not shutting down and creating 100%-cpu eating zombie processes?
[23:04] <mibr001> fe3dy5et
[23:04] <psychoshield> timed me out again dinomuffin
[23:05] <esuave> mibr001: wrong window? looks like a pw to me
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> myk_robinson: not used it in oneiric tbh, although on closing it it closes ok. Did you get it from the sykpe site/
[23:06] <myk_robinson> ActionParsnip: we meet again :) Unsure. I just purged it and am about to download the one from there. My son started using it, and i notice it seems to stay loaded long after he is done. I end up having to reboot the computer, because it wont die.
[23:06] <dinomuffin> psychoshield: try adding 'ClientAliveCountMax 3' to sshd_config
[23:06] <mibr001> lol yeah fun loggin in with no screen huh/
[23:07] <esuave> haha nice
[23:07] <mibr001> don't piss of your uncle
[23:07] <esuave> or else he'll take out your screen? lol
[23:08] <mibr001> yup slammed it
[23:08] <dinomuffin> psychoshield: brb
[23:08] <Lineage2> I need help opening Lineage2Freya on Ubuntu. Can anyone help?
[23:08] <Lineage2> pm me pliz
[23:08] <psychoshield> just did what he said time to way :)
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> myk_robinson: check the site, grab the deb for your arch, its a later version than in the partner repo
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> Lineage2: did you ask in #winehq
[23:09] <mibr001> i have an unrelated cooling issue i want to raise fan idle rpm and lower ran rev temp im running 10.10 on an aspire 5520
[23:10] <Dinomuffin> psychoshield: any luck?
[23:10] <psychoshield> waiting now
[23:10] <Dinomuffin> ok
[23:10] <meco> Can someone help me with editing the VHOST for my apache2 server?
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> Lineage2: success will depend on version: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=2273
[23:11] <Lineage2> nobody answering there
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> Lineage2: they get high ratings though, those pages have how-tos too
[23:12] <DinoMuffin> meco: have you tried asking in #httpd yet?
[23:12] <DinoMuffin> meco: this isn't a channel for apache support
[23:13] <frogzoo> could someone recommend a Next G USB dongle for Telstra?
[23:13] <meco> DinoMuffin: They won't help me anymore. I don't understand what I should do. They tell me I need to ask here.
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | frogzoo may help
[23:14] <psychoshield> think its good now
[23:14] <DinoMuffin> psychoshield: cool
[23:14] <psychoshield> ty
[23:14] <DinoMuffin> np
[23:15] <meco> Perhaps there should be a crossover channel: #apache-ubuntu that doesn't put me in a revolving door..
[23:15] <mcphail> meco: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/412
[23:15] <xSmurf> hey all, I'd like to build a ramfs os install (on HD but without persistence) could anyone point me in the right direction?
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> Lineage2: you could have also found that yourself as I made ubottu give yo the link to the appdb
[23:16] <xSmurf> (basically a live cd type of install but I want to pre install some things)
[23:17] <DinoMuffin> xSmurf: you mean, basically, configuring your own liveCD?
[23:17] <xSmurf> DinoMuffin: yes and installing it as a partition
[23:17] <DinoMuffin> why
[23:17] <hydrox24> xSmurf: have a look at "chroot" and chrooting, that may be able to help you in customizing a live cd
[23:18] <meco> mcphail: Well, I'm not running multiple websites. All I want is to have the smokeping script work...
[23:18] <xSmurf> yeah ok I found the help n the guides thx
[23:18] <xSmurf> not if only unetbootin (osx) would produce a booting drive ;p
[23:19] <frogzoo> ActionParsnip: I'm not hopeful, but I'll check it out, thx!
[23:19] <hydrox24> xSmurf: you want to boot a drive from mac or just create a bootable drive IN OSX
[23:19] <mcphail> meco: no one is going to hold your hand through apache2 setup here. It is offtopic. I suggest you start at the link I posted to learn about the debian/ubuntu apache configuration setup and go from there
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> xSmurf: http://maketecheasier.com/reconstructor-creating-your-own-ubuntu-distribution/2008/07/05
[23:19] <xSmurf> hydrox24: just create it in osx, stupid Vbox won't mount the thumb drive ;/
[23:19] <xSmurf> ActionParsnip: thanks
[23:19] <meco> mcphail: OK.
[23:19] <hydrox24> xSmurf: oh.
[23:21] <meco> Anyway, the only reason I'm trying to get apache to work is to get the smokeping script to work. I'd be just as happy if I could find another ping app than smokeping to give me a graphical output. Any suggestions?
[23:22] <[MEXI]_BLACK> hello
[23:22] <[MEXI]_BLACK> what sap
[23:22] <[MEXI]_BLACK> mens
[23:22] <[MEXI]_BLACK> ke pedo
[23:22] <FloodBot1> [MEXI]_BLACK: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:22] <[MEXI]_BLACK> raza algun ispano
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> meco: ping of what? some hostname and you want to ping it and graph the results?
[23:23] <joeoshawa> i was just wondering is the ubuntu software center open source and if so where is the source code
[23:24] <DinoMuffin> !es | [MEXI]_BLACK
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> JoeSomebody: sure its open source
[23:24] <xSmurf> ActionParsnip: Reconstructor looks nice but I don't see where I preselect what I want to be installed
[23:24] <joeoshawa> where can you get the source code from
[23:25] <meco> ActionParsnip: I want to ping my ISP to show them what a lousy connection they're providing....
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> JoeSomebody: its in the repos, like the binaries. If you look in /etc/apt/sources.list   you will see source code sources listed
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> meco: hehe nice
[23:26] <DinoMuffin> meco: why not just run a speed test
[23:26] <mcphail> joeoshawa: apt-get source software-center
[23:26] <romolo> !list
[23:26] <joeoshawa> i use debian unfortunately is there a web site i can use to get the code
[23:26] <meco> DinoMuffin: Because it's intermittent.
[23:26] <joeoshawa> i want to look at it for learning purposes
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> JoeSomebody: mkdir ~/stuff; cd ~/stuff; apt-get source nano            for example
[23:27] <meco> I want to ping them for 24 hours and then have the graphs to show what it looks like.
[23:27] <joeoshawa> would the debian software center be the same code in debian unstable
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> JoeSomebody: debian isn't supported here
[23:27] <mcphail> joeoshawa: just browse the ubuntu repos as you would for debian
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> JoeSomebody: no idea, I dont use debian
[23:27] <Gentoo64> meco, they probably wont care
[23:28] <mcphail> joeoshawa: don't expect it to build on debian though - there may be ubuntu-isms
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> meco: you could ping and grep / awk the outpt then graph that
[23:28] <Gentoo64> meco, and also how could you prove that its nothing on your side affecting it?
[23:28] <joeoshawa> lol i know i am trying to learn computer programming so i was curious for information
[23:28] <Gentoo64> doubt youll get far
[23:29] <DinoMuffin> you could probably just set it up to ping forever and pipe the output to a file
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> meco: ping -c 4 www.google.com | awk '{print $8}'        example
[23:29] <DinoMuffin> then sort it to find the times when it's low
[23:29] <meco> Gentoo64: Hmm... I don't know...
[23:30] <mcphail> joeoshawa: it might be better to start with a simpler application...
[23:30] <joeoshawa> and i realize debian is not supported here but i can't very well go in the debian room saying hey how can i get the ubuntu software center code to compare
[23:30] <meco> ActionParsnip: But I don't want to ping google. I only want to ping my ISP
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> meco: then change the host, obviously....
[23:30] <psychoshield> so im trying to use deluge and write to /var im in the www-data group but its still failing to write... why is it?
[23:30] <joeoshawa> meco ask for a server ip from your isp
[23:30] <mcphail> joeoshawa: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~software-store-developers/software-center/trunk/files
[23:30] <zykotick9> joeoshawa: "software-center" is available on debian
[23:30] <joeoshawa> thanks mcphail
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> meco: yous DNS servers will probably be your ISPs.
[23:31] <meco> joeoshawa: I don't have any power to do that. This is a municipally owned pc.
[23:31] <Gentoo64> meco, just saying, if you're trying to get something out of it it's probably a waste of time. my previous isp was adament that it was a virus in my case, although i dnt even use windows :s
[23:32] <joeoshawa> ActionParsnip, not necessarily some isp such as rogers and bell use third party dns servers
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> joeoshawa: its a good first check though :)
[23:32] <meco> Gentoo64: Nah... I can't be that pessimistic from the outset... Not all ISPs will be unreasonable on principle...
[23:32] <joeoshawa> there are linux viruses
[23:32] <joeoshawa> but that is laughable
[23:33] <joeoshawa> ActionParsnip, true
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> meco: or their email pop server
[23:34] <joeoshawa> ahh its in python
[23:34] <joeoshawa> interesting
[23:35] <joeoshawa> ActionParsnip, that is probably his best bet
[23:36] <joeoshawa> and with rogers they would do something about it
[23:36] <jwh1981> How is everyone today?
[23:36] <joeoshawa> customer service oriented
[23:36] <meco> Anyway, Gentoo64 said something, that it might be a problem with this computer. That's kinda hard to understand. But it could be since it's a very troubled machine... I'm just not understanding enough about how it could be a problem here when programs run fine and suddenly ping replies cease completely for 30 seconds or two minutes.
[23:36] <joeoshawa> meco ping from another similar machine to the same ip
[23:37] <meco> joeoshawa: I only have access to this machine.
[23:37] <joeoshawa> got a lap top?
[23:37] <meco> Nope
[23:37] <joeoshawa> any lap top
[23:37] <joeoshawa> damn
[23:37] <joeoshawa> borrow one?
[23:37] <meco> Only this desktop
[23:37] <CoolHandLuke>    /join #mongoDB
[23:38] <meco> I have noone to borrow from.
[23:38] <joeoshawa> sorry dude
[23:38] <KC-45> forever aloooneee
[23:38] <KC-45> lol
[23:38] <KC-45> sorry meco jus had to say that...
[23:38] <meco> Well, it's how it is.
[23:38] <joeoshawa> only way i can think of to be sure
[23:38] <joeoshawa> other then reinstalling
[23:38] <joeoshawa> and then if its hardware it won't make a difference
[23:39] <meco> KC-45: It's just that it limits alternative options.. or precludes even
[23:39] <joeoshawa> although that would tell you if its a hardware or software problem
[23:39] <joeoshawa> but if its a net connection it won't tell you anything
[23:40] <KC-45> mmmm
[23:40] <joeoshawa> anyway thanks guys
[23:41] <joeoshawa> greatly appreciate you helping a debian user even tho its a ubuntu room
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> meco: tried a different distro, like Suse or something like that to test
[23:42] <meco> I can live fine with the limitations. I'm grabbing this also as an opportunity to learn more about hardware and software and protocols and everything..
[23:43] <meco> ActionParsnip: Actually, I have a cd with Mint lying around. I haven't found the time to try it out yet though.
[23:44] <meco> LMDE
[23:44]  * TimRiker is on natty 11.04 which still has firefox 9. firebug crashes due to debugger issues on 32 bit Linux builds. what are my options? does Oneiric have firefox 10+ ? Can I downgrade to 8? any idea when 10+ will make it to natty?
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> meco: mint is ubuntu based, no not much will change really.
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> meco: something like suse is totally different so may help
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> meco: ahhh LMDE, thats a bit better, still debian based though
[23:45] <meco> ActionParsnip: Actually, LMDE is Debian-based, which is kinda cool since Ubuntu is too (right?).
[23:46] <Calinou> TimRiker: don't use firefox then :P or use a ppa/manual install
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> meco: i'd try somethig drastically different for a real test
[23:46] <Calinou> this is the reason why I don't insall most of my stuff using pakcages
[23:46] <meco> I was thinking maybe Arch Linux
[23:46] <TimRiker> is 10 in Oneriric yet?
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> meco: that'll do :)O
[23:46] <Calinou> TimRiker: yes
[23:47] <meco> TimRiker: Yes
[23:47] <michael_> how do I find out if the computer has DMA enabled?
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> TimRiker: oneiric has 9 by default
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> michael_: hdparm can tell you
[23:47] <TimRiker> ActionParsnip, ah. thx. so a dist-upgrade won't help. probably do a ppa then. thx!
[23:47] <Glowball> TimRiker: The repositories will probably update soon :)
[23:48] <meco> Oops... is Firefox 10 in oneiric? I said yes, but I have only 9.0.1
[23:48] <TimRiker> meco, thx.
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> meco: it can be via ppa
[23:48] <TimRiker> Glowball, probably. the ppa sounds like the least intrusive option till the upgrade comes.
[23:48] <Calinou> manual install, TimRiker
[23:48] <meco> Yes, I haven't checked that
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> its 10 in Precise
[23:48] <Calinou> there are precompiled versions installed
[23:49] <Calinou> ActionParsnip: precise is unstable :P
[23:49] <michael_> i just don't know what device name to use with hdparm
[23:49]  * TimRiker tries sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-next
[23:49] <Calinou> s/installed/to download
[23:49] <Calinou> "not available for natty - WE LOVE UNITY!"
[23:49] <Calinou> :P
[23:49] <Glowball> TimRiker: So, what PPA? Afaik, the Firefox stable ppa is only being updated for Lucid and Maverick, because newer versions will get updates from the usual repositories
[23:49] <TimRiker> Glowball, see my previous post
[23:50] <Glowball> Oh, yes, that'll probably work :)
[23:50] <Glowball> New beta user, yay!
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> michael_: the one you want to check DMA is enabled on
[23:50] <Calinou> Glowball: s/beta/unity
[23:50] <Glowball> Calinou: I meant Firefox beta :P
[23:51] <TimRiker> Glowball, installing firefox-10.0~b6+build1-0ubuntu0.11.04.1~mfn1
[23:51] <Glowball> As you were having problems with Firebug: if you decide to switch to Aurora instead of beta, you can use the new Firebug with cool features: http://blog.getfirebug.com/2012/01/27/firebug-1-10a2/
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> Glowball: there is a nightly ppa with firefox 12 or something
[23:51] <Glowball> But I probably shouldn't force alpha software upon anywone :P
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> Glowball: could use chromium daily and ditch firefox ::D
[23:52] <TimRiker> what's Aurora? refresh my memory.
[23:52] <Glowball> ActionParsnip: Why would he? Firefox is awesome ^^
[23:52] <frantic> Hey, i have something i want to install on my laptop, its an ISO file, what can i use for a virtual drive installation program?
[23:52] <TimRiker> alright, stop the trolling. yes I use chromium too. :)
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> Glowball: I think its utter garbage
[23:52] <Glowball> TimRiker: It's a Firefox development channel
[23:52] <TimRiker> Glowball, ah.
[23:53] <Glowball> ActionParsnip: Then you are thinking wrong :)
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> Glowball: chromium uses significantly fewer resources here and runs a LOT faster
[23:54] <Glowball> Chromium is using a lot more resources here without any significant speed win, while having a completely unusable UI
[23:54] <Glowball> I guess the resource usage depends on the system
[23:54] <TimRiker> ok, can we stop the browser debate? use what you like.
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> oh absolutely :)
[23:55] <fredo> h
[23:55] <Glowball> Yes, that's true :) It was more of a reaction to his "Ditch Firefox and switch to Chromium"
[23:56] <overclucker> while you're at it try surf
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> !info surf
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> lets have a try :D
[23:58] <acerimmer> !test
[23:58] <overclucker> surf's documentation is lacking, but only because the features are lacking.
[23:58] <Glowball> !info lynx
[23:58] <Glowball> Lynx wins! :D
[23:59] <overclucker> w3m is also pretty nifty