[00:00] <w30> spanner3003, if you use a Nvidia install you have to reinstall for every kernel. Not os if you use the repos for a nvidia module because ubuntu will update it for you.
[00:00] <w30> os/so
[00:01] <spanner3003> oh ok
[00:02] <spanner3003> well i uninstalled nvidia but not difference
[00:08] <spanner3003> w30 it's a wubi install how do i mount it in windows 7 so i can look at /var/log more?
[00:12] <w30> spanner3003, what's wubi? Is that Microsoft stuff. I don't do Microsoft stuff because it's too expensive.
[00:12] <w30> spanner3003, sorry....
[00:14] <spanner3003> w30 http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer
[00:43] <spanner3003> so w30 can you help me?
[00:44] <spanner3003> i use xbuntu as my build enviroment so i need it working right
[00:45] <spanner3003> how do i mount one of my hdd as rw and for user spanner3003 not just root?
[00:50] <w30> spanner3003, I don't use Windows so I don't know anything about it past Windows 3.1
[00:53] <spanner3003> on not in winodws in xbuntu
[00:54] <Unit193> Wubi is basically the same, you need windows to use wubi and he doesn't have it
[00:55] <spanner3003> w30 i can boot into old kernel so will use that for now but one of my harddrives that i use for build android i mount to /media/mydrive
[00:56] <spanner3003> before the kernel update it mounted fine
[00:56] <spanner3003> and now as i have to use old kernel it is mounting as root only and read only :(
[00:57] <spanner3003> and Unit193 what do you think i'm on now not xbuntu
[00:57] <spanner3003> windows 7
[00:58] <spanner3003> check my whois info :P
[01:00] <spanner3003> Unit193 on irssi v0.8.15 - running on Linux i686
[01:00] <Unit193> What about it?
[01:00]  * spanner3003 on mIRC v7.22 Khaled Mardam-Bey running on windows 7
 i mount to /media/mydrive  <--  which command do you use?  if you have an entry in /etc/fstab, can you list that too, please.
[01:08] <TVasEyes> oh, gone already..
[02:47] <wakejagr> i recently installed xubuntu 11.10 on a machine with an intel 82945G/GZ integrated video card.  max resolution is 1024x768.  the problem seems to be that the intel xorg server isn't being used.  any suggestions where i go from here?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/824690/
[02:48] <wakejagr> Xorg.0.log in pastebin
[02:52] <TVasEyes> wakejagr: create an xorg.conf (as root:  Xorg -configure to create the initial file), edit it to include the intel driver, copy to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[02:53] <TVasEyes> and make sure you can ssh in in case the server doesn't 'like' the xorg.conf.
[02:53] <TVasEyes> wakejagr: man Xorg, man xorg.conf, man intel
[02:54] <wakejagr> thanks
[02:54] <TVasEyes> cool.
[03:12] <m1chael> hello. i am trying to revive an old e-machine pc. i have a network cable plugged in to the router but the tiny router indicator isnt lighting up (indicating the network card isnt being activated.) i've booted up and the internet isnt working. where do i start with troubleshooting
[03:12] <m1chael> ?
[03:16] <TVasEyes> m1chael: to begin you can examine  dmesg  output for clues, also check whether ifconfig reports your interface.  (sorry, go to go)
[03:17] <m1chael> thanks tvas!
[07:02] <A_J> my gui is not loaded correctly, the top navigation bars are missing can someone help me
[07:05] <baizon> A_J:  ?
[07:05] <baizon> you mean in the windows?
[07:06] <A_J> umm, no xfce
[07:06] <A_J> baizon: the top bars with applications etc are gone
[07:06] <baizon> A_J: ok, this -> http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=6102 should fix your problem
[07:09] <A_J> baizon: did it now, nothing happened should i reboot ?
[07:09] <baizon> A_J: yes
[07:09] <A_J> okie brb
[07:11] <A_J> thanks you baizon, worked.
[07:11] <baizon> np
[07:11] <A_J> baizon: can I ask you another query, how can i get the pc to login into two user accounts at startup and keep one in the background
[07:14] <Guest42490> hi
[07:14] <A_J> o/
[07:15] <Guest42490> i have language problem
[07:15] <baizon> A_J: you mean something like this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1687602 ?
[07:15]  * A_J looks
[07:15] <amusselm> msg nickserv
[07:17] <baizon> Guest42490: what language problem?
[07:17] <A_J> thanks baizon. i'll do it manually for now
[07:18] <A_J> goodbye o/
[07:18] <Guest42490> no i cant switch between languages because i cant intall any lang except chinese
[07:19] <baizon> what error msg do you get
[07:19] <Guest42490> on the bar, it is showing input method off
[07:21] <Guest42490> under input method menue it showing only chinese
[07:22] <baizon> try to install it using the terminal
[07:22] <Guest42490> ؟
[07:24] <baizon> open the terminal
[07:24] <baizon> or not :P
[09:05] <xubuntu134> hola
[09:05] <xubuntu134> or hello
[13:02] <pjotter> Hello
[13:08] <knome> hello
[13:11] <pjotter> I just installed Xubuntu in Virtualbox. I am looking at it right now
[13:11] <pjotter> It looks very nice
[13:13] <pjotter> I am looking for a distribution that will have a browsable startmenu for quite a while
[13:13] <pjotter> Xubuntu seems to offer this
[13:14] <knome> yup. nice to hear you like it
[13:15] <pjotter> I have been using Ubuntu for the past three years now
[13:16] <pjotter> But since they starting to use Unity, I found it to be increasingly unusable
[13:16] <pjotter> So I am looking for an alternative. Looks like Xubuntu might be just that
[13:17] <pjotter> Does Xubuntu have any other themes than the standard one?
[13:19] <SpiKe_Spiegel> of course :)
[13:19] <hobgoblin> pjotter: settings - settings manager - appearance - there is a big list there
[13:19] <knome> most of them are not really gtk3 complete though
[13:20] <hobgoblin> true
[13:20] <SpiKe_Spiegel> http://xfce-look.org
[13:21] <pjotter> Ah, I see now. I have installed the dutch version and it uses a different word for it. Thanks!
[13:22] <pjotter> Very nice :)
[13:23] <pjotter> I think I will have to install Xubuntu to give it a real test. I need to install photoshop under wine. That has always been a bit tricky in Ubuntu. So I hope it will work in Xubuntu.
[13:23] <knome> pjotter, it will at least run
[13:23] <knome> pjotter, there might be some problems, but those are related to wine, not xubuntu
[13:23] <pjotter> I know.
[13:24] <knome> yup, just saying. running photoshop in xp under vbox myself :)
[13:24] <pjotter> I have tested many distributions. On some, my setup works fine. On others, for some unknown reason, the don't.
[13:24] <knome> mm-hmm, i didn't have problems installing with xubuntu
[13:25] <knome> but it wasn't really stable enough for everyday use, at least for me
[13:25] <pjotter> I have tried that too. But I also use a wacom tablet pen. And I never figured out how to get that working in virtualbox.
[13:25] <knome> pjotter, my wacom works after installing the drivers as you would do in native windows
[13:26] <pjotter> That's interesting. So you just installed wacom driver in windows under virtualbox?
[13:26] <knome> yes
[13:26] <pjotter> wow
[13:27] <pjotter> I should give that a try!
[13:27] <knome> heh :)
[13:27] <pjotter> I need photoshop for work. So, it is not some small thing for me.
[13:27] <knome> yep, same for me too
[13:28] <pjotter> I really must say, I like the looks of Xubuntu. It is very clean and very efficiënt.
[13:28] <pjotter> Will the startmenu be in Xubuntu for a while?
[13:28] <knome> mmh, thanks for the words :)
[13:29] <knome> yeah, we don't plan to change that. (why would we, that's a core xfce component :)
[13:29] <knome> and even if it was removed from the default installation (which is not really going to happen at least any time soon), you could just readd the panel applet
[13:29] <pjotter> I mean, it will not suddenly turn into an iphone app, like Ubuntu?
[13:30] <knome> lol, not really
[13:30] <knome> it's nothing to worry about
[13:30] <pjotter> Great!
[13:30] <knome> of course xfce developers can go nuts and so, but looking how it is now, it's not going to happen
[13:31] <pjotter> O man, I was just shocked when I saw the new Ubuntu interface. I have a very big monitor too. The whole thing looked like a giant tablet.
[13:31] <knome> i suppose the usefulness of unity depends on your workflows
[13:32] <knome> it's a different thing, and i'm sure it's the best thing for some, at least
[13:33] <pjotter> Maybe I am overreacting or maybe I'm just a bit little oldfashioned. But I really couldn't  see myself working with that kind of an interface.
[13:34] <hobgoblin> if you want to see overreaction look in the recurring discussion bit of the forums
[13:34] <hobgoblin> or testimonials
[13:35] <pjotter> To me, it really looked as if they designed the thing with tablets in mind. So it would be great for tablets, I guess. But for developers, artists that use desktop computers and other people that have some serious work to do, it really is just counterproductive. Just my opinion.
[13:36] <pjotter> But anyway. It is good to see there is a very good alternative. I think I found a winner in Xubuntu :)
[13:37] <hobgoblin> pjotter: I came to it in 11.04 when unity first really appeared
[13:38] <pjotter> I use 10.04 LTS. So I really had no clue at was was going on with the Unity thing in 11.04 and 11.10. Imagine my surprise :D
[13:38] <hobgoblin> aaah
[13:38] <knome> guys... if you want to chat about unity and such more, use our offtopic channel at #xubuntu-offtopic. thanks! :)
[13:38] <hobgoblin> I assume you don't go to the forum's often then , it has been the main topic of debate for over a year now
[13:39] <hobgoblin> sorry knome :)
[13:39] <pjotter> ok, knome.
[13:39] <knome> no problem :)
[14:57] <webroasters> hi guys. quick question. How do I change the color of the text of the desktop icons?
[15:51] <kurapika> hihi
[16:38] <knome> xubuntu community meeting in about 20 in #xubuntu-devel
[16:44] <ceslao> hi
[16:45] <ceslao> May someone help me to choose the best linux distibution for my 2005 laptop?
[16:45] <knome> !best
[16:47] <charlie-tca> I use Xubuntu on my 5 year old laptop
[16:48] <ceslao> Thanks a lot!
[16:54] <soreau> Hey guys, will the xfce panel weather applet be fixed for 12.04 release?
[16:56] <charlie-tca> what's wrong with it?
[16:56] <charlie-tca> I have it working on 11.10
[16:56] <soreau> Well in my 11.10 install it's broken. It just says No Data
[16:57] <ElderDryas> http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-weather-plugin
[16:58] <charlie-tca> I know where it comes from. What's wrong with it in 12.04?
[16:58] <ElderDryas> "Attention: The folks at weather.com have upgraded their platform in July 2009 to make the API key mandatory. It wasn't required previously (apart in writing), and the Weather plugin didn't implement that before 0.6.3. You'll need version 0.6.3 or more recent to make the Weather plugin work again. "
[16:59] <charlie-tca> I show version 0.7.4 in 12.04
[17:00] <charlie-tca> I show version 0.7.4 in 12.04
[17:00] <ElderDryas> sorry...clicked wrong button :(
[17:01] <charlie-tca> no problem. As far as I know, there should not be a problem with it
[17:02] <soreau> So it should be fixed in xfce4-weather-plugin >= 0.6.3?
[17:03] <charlie-tca> yes
[17:03] <soreau> ok cool, thanks ElderDryas charlie-tca
[17:03] <charlie-tca> yw
[17:39] <alkisg> Hi, is the precise daily live CD bootable, should I use that, or get the alpha-1 instead?
[17:40] <charlie-tca> Yes it is bootable. You do know it is not ready for production use?
[17:41] <alkisg> Yes, thank you very much :)
[17:41] <alkisg> I mean, I expect the normal alpha/beta problems, there's no known blocker in xubuntu+1 right now, correct?
[17:41] <charlie-tca> The images are being rebuilt for an issue in casper now. You might want to wait for the next one
[17:42] <alkisg> Do you have a bug # handy?
[17:42] <charlie-tca> No known blockers, correct. They are working, with bugs
[17:42] <charlie-tca> for?
[17:42] <alkisg> For the casper issue, if it blocks the boot process
[17:42] <charlie-tca> I don't have the latest bug numbers, no
[17:42] <alkisg> But if it doesn't, no problem :)
[17:42] <charlie-tca> it boots, but can sometimes lose the network.
[17:43] <alkisg> Ah ok no problem there
[17:43] <charlie-tca> Trying to install from the cd menu fails completely, too. Let the cd run until it stops at the try or install screen
[17:44] <alkisg> Thanks for the tip.
[17:44] <charlie-tca> Good luck, and thanks for testing this one
[17:45]  * alkisg is trying to decide which desktop environment to use in about 250 schools, as some people weren't very satisfied with unity
[17:46] <charlie-tca> Worth trying Xubuntu, then. There will be some artwork changes, yet, but for the most part, it will be as seen today
[17:56] <knome> agreed with charlie-tca :)
[17:56] <knome> xubuntu has proven to be very stable with every release as long as i remember
[18:07] <pjotter> Hi everyone!
[18:08] <pjotter> I just installed Xubuntu on my computer
[18:09] <pjotter> During my initial install, something went wrong. It resulted in a message that asked me to send a crashreport. So I did. Does this also mean that my personal information, such as: computername, accountname and password were also sent? Should I be worried?
[18:10] <Myrtti> password isn't sent
[18:11] <Myrtti> I wouldn't particularly worry about the computername or account name
[18:12] <pjotter> No, I guess not.
[18:15] <vaev> is there a way to set system default python to a different version? non-intrusive, like I don't want to manually change the python symlink
[18:17] <vaev> system default anything actually, any package that can exist in multiple versions
[18:18] <rei> vaev:  if you have some python version installed, you can run "eselect python list "
[18:18] <rei> in a python cli
[18:18] <Axz> could someone please explain me how to fix panel... somehow i moved everything to the right
[18:18] <rei> and then select the version you want with "eselect python set <num>"
[18:18] <Axz> like session menu and such that needs to be on left side
[18:19] <vaev> rei: wrong distro perhaps? isn't eselect gentoo's thing
[18:19] <charlie-tca> Axz: add a separator to the panel, and expand it
[18:20] <Axz> charlie-tca, oke but now i dont see any windows in the panel
[18:21] <rei> vaev:  are you in python cli ?
[18:23] <charlie-tca> what do you mean?
[18:23] <charlie-tca> You don't see any windows?
[18:23] <vaev> rei: python cli? do you mean python interpreter shell?
[18:23] <Axz> charlie-tca, when i open firefox i cant see it in my panel
[18:25] <vaev> I'll rephrase my question: how do you select the default package in xubuntu, when there's multiple package versions in the live system?
[18:26] <rei> vaev:  yes
[18:27] <charlie-tca> then remove that separator
[18:27] <Axz> nvm fizxed added Window Buttons
[18:27] <charlie-tca> Okay
[18:30] <Axz> Also how come terminal is being removed after update?
[18:30] <Axz> atleast the icon isnt working, says application cant be found
[19:01] <pjotter> Hey, does anybody know a good notes manager for Xubuntu. I used to work with Notecase manager. But that doesn't seem to be working anymore.
[19:01] <charlie-tca> tomboy works if you don't mind mono
[19:02] <charlie-tca> also xfce-notes works
[19:02] <pjotter> I'm looking for something with an tree menu on the side.
[19:03] <GridCube> pjotter: something like this? http://rednotebook.sourceforge.net/
[19:04] <pjotter> Looks nice. But maybe a bit too fancy for me. I'm looking for a really simple one.
[19:06] <pjotter> Maybe Kjots might be something. It is made for KDE. But can I install that on Xubuntu, or can I better look for somethiong that was specificly made to work with Xubuntu?
[19:06] <charlie-tca> It's fine to install KDE apps, but sometimes they add a lot of extra stuff
[19:06] <pjotter> Ok.
[19:07] <pjotter> What extra stuff? KDE stuff?
[19:07] <charlie-tca> I usually have to install the kde cd burner app here
[19:07] <charlie-tca> yes, KDE stuff that the application needs to run
[19:07] <GridCube> pjotter: this wiki articly list a few applications http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KJots
[19:08] <mongy> k3b is worth the extra depends.
[19:08] <charlie-tca> as long as the machine can handle them
[19:08] <mongy> altho I use gnomebaker these days, for lighter reasons
[19:08] <charlie-tca> Yeah, I find myself switching to whichever one works on that day
[19:09] <pjotter> Thanks GridCube! I will have a look.
[19:11] <pjotter> I can always use the free TreeDBNotes 1.0 version under Wine :D
[19:12] <pjotter> Ha ! Found one!  Tuxcards. Just perfect for what I want!
[19:13] <GridCube> :P qt
[19:14] <Kingsy> what is the best linux video player to use to navigate dvd menus with? vlc doesnt work
[19:14] <baizon> Kingsy: im using SMPlayer
[19:14] <GridCube> smplayer is pretty cool
[19:14] <Kingsy> baizon: can you open folders with it? i.e I have a dvd in the format of a video_ts folder
[19:14] <Kingsy> which has menus I need to navigate
[19:15] <GridCube> Kingsy: it should
[19:17] <mongy> Kingsy, you might be interested in http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-mplayer2-and-smplayer2-in.html
[19:18] <Kingsy> GridCube: nope.. SMPlayer works but it doesnt let you go through the menus.. it just loads it without interactive.. i.e it just goes through the chapters 1 by 1
[19:18] <Kingsy> mongy: how so?
[19:19] <GridCube> oh, vlc doesnt work either?
[19:19] <Kingsy> GridCube: nope..
[19:19] <mongy> because its mplayer2 and smplayer.  a fork of mplayer with better features and stuff.. or so it says :)
[19:19] <Kingsy> seems like a few people have had issues according to google.. so I am looking for a replacement
[19:19] <GridCube> don't know then, i've used both to explore dvd isos created by devede
[19:20] <pjotter> Just one general question about Xubuntu: Whenever I want to resize a window, it seems there is very little space to do it. If you are only off by one pixel it doesn't work. Is this a know issue? Or is there a fix for this?
[19:20] <baizon> Kingsy: yes you can
[19:20] <GridCube> pjotter: thats pretty much by desing
[19:21] <baizon> or it can :)
[19:21] <GridCube> you can choose other windows borders
[19:21] <pjotter> Okay, how?
[19:21] <baizon> mongy: smplayer 0.7.0 is released with mplayer2 support
[19:21] <mongy> pjotter,   shiki dark is ok from what I remember
[19:22] <pjotter> OK, so just another theme should fix it?
[19:22] <mongy> baizon, but not all the functions available in mplayer2
[19:22] <mongy> hence, smplayer2
[19:22] <GridCube> pjotter: on configuration go to window manager and choose another border style
[19:22] <Kingsy> baizon: ok, so I have the dvd loaded.. I can see the various, play.. special features.. etc none of the menu items is selected at the moment..
[19:22] <pjotter> Ok, thanks!
[19:22] <Kingsy> how do you select one of the menus and access it?
[19:23] <Kingsy> if you use the arrow keys it skips through the current scene that is replaying in the background
[19:24] <GridCube> clic them?
[19:25] <Kingsy> GridCube: does nothing
[19:27] <GridCube> don't know then, can you packet it into an iso
[19:27] <Kingsy> what difference will that make?
[19:27] <Kingsy> oh .. so I can use it on a regular dvd player you mean?
[19:28] <Kingsy> GridCube: what would you use to create a .iso file out of it?
[19:28] <Kingsy> xfburn doesnt seem to have an open
[19:28] <Kingsy> option
[19:29] <GridCube> Kingsy: It should have it
[19:30] <pjotter> GridCube: I can't seem to find that option. I am in Window manager. There are four tabs: Style, Keyboard, Focus and Advanved. Where can I adjust borderstyle?
[19:32] <GridCube> on style, change the themes
[19:32] <Kingsy> GridCube: well I cant do that.. its a dual layer dvd and I don't have any.. lol..
[19:32] <Kingsy> can you get daemon tools for xubuntu and "fake" mount it ?
[19:32] <pjotter> Ok, I thought you meant there would be a seperate option to adjust borderwidth or something.
[19:33] <GridCube> pjotter nope
[19:34] <pjotter> :) Sorry, I am new to this whole Xubuntu thing here.
[19:34] <GridCube> Kingsy: once you get the iso the player would automagically mount it
[19:34] <GridCube> pjotter: :)
[19:34] <Kingsy> GridCube: how would you go about creating the iso then?
[19:34] <GridCube> :D im trying to figure that out :P
[19:35] <mongy> man mkisofs
[19:36] <Kingsy> thanks
[19:36] <GridCube> that should work http://tuxarena.blogspot.com/2009/03/4-ways-to-create-cddvd-iso-images-in.html
[19:36] <mongy> an example is in there, I forget the exact command
[19:36] <GridCube> mkisofs -o cd.iso /data_directory/
[19:36] <GridCube> that :P
[19:36] <mongy> -dvd-video also
[19:36] <Kingsy> nice one yeah.. seems to be going it now
[19:37] <mongy> but thats more for  when burning
[19:37] <Kingsy> got it yeah.. its creating now
[19:37] <Kingsy> man I need to remember that
[19:38] <Kingsy> mkisofs hardly sticks in your head
[19:38] <Kingsy> :S
[19:39] <alkisg> Nah the daily iso stops at the very beginning of the installation, saying "removing conflicting OS files" or something similar... (I'm using localized UI)
[19:39] <alkisg> log-output -t ubiquity fontconfig-voodoo --auto --force --quiet => that's the last I see in the log
[19:40] <GridCube> alkisg: ?
[19:40] <GridCube> mind to explain yourself a little bit?
[19:40] <alkisg> I'm trying to install a system using the daily iso xubuntu cd
[19:40] <alkisg> I select my locale (greek), I start the live session, launch ubiquity, select the partitions etc, and then it stops on that step
[19:41] <alkisg> No crash, it just stays there waiting forever
[19:41] <alkisg> So I expand the ubiquity bottom side to see the log output, and that's the last line I see
[19:43] <alkisg> If I manually run fontconfig-voodoo --auto --force in a terminal, I'm getting "no fontconfig-voodoo configuration found for the current LANGUAGE. Aborting" - I get that even if I start the CD with english locale as well.
[19:43] <xubuntu814> I think u are still downloading the language packs
[19:43] <alkisg> No, it hasn't reached that step yet, and it does that even if I don't have an internet connection at all
[19:44] <GridCube> alkisg: please go to #xubuntu-devel :) thats the proper place for this
[19:44] <alkisg> Thank you
[19:45] <xubuntu814> im running the installation on an ibm thinkpad with 1028mb ram and i see the same message for about 20 minutes now
[19:45] <xubuntu814> still downloading locales
[19:46] <Kingsy> ok so now I have created the iso how do you mount it?
[19:46] <GridCube> Kingsy: you do not, simply open it with vlc or smplayer
[19:49] <Kingsy> hmm menus still dont work.. perhaps the files themselves are faulty..
[19:49] <Kingsy> oh well
[19:49] <jackult> goodevening
[19:50] <mongy> I've had that, and they still work in a proper dvd player...
[19:53] <jackult> everyone here is running xfce of xubuntu?
[19:54] <charlie-tca> um, Xubuntu is Xfce desktop environment
[19:57] <jackult> yes i kow..
[19:57] <jackult> i known..
[20:45] <Louis11> Anyone know if there would be any difference using XGrabKeys on ubuntu and xubuntu?
[20:46] <Louis11> I'm trying to have my program register a hotkey with the OS, seems to be working on Ubuntu, but fails on XUbuntu . . .
[22:38] <well_laid_lawn> Louis11: check that xfce hasn't already grsabbed the key you want to use
[23:21] <pjotter> Does compiz work with Xubuntu?
[23:27] <holstein> pjotter: sure... not so much "out of the box"
[23:27] <holstein> its a lot like this http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/xubuntu-compiz-pretty-pretty-xubuntu/ though i find it to be less than pleasant
[23:45] <pjotter> Hi! Looks like I have a problem here. I can't get the hardware drivers working on my computer. I tried installing them, but got an error.
[23:45] <well_laid_lawn> pjotter: what was the error?
[23:46] <pjotter> can I paste it her? It is 6 lines
[23:46] <pjotter> ?
[23:46] <well_laid_lawn> !paste
[23:46] <charlie-tca> If it is only 6 lines, I will allow the paste this time
[23:46] <pjotter> :)
[23:46] <pjotter> 2012-02-02 00:41:44,683 WARNING: /sys/module/fglrx_updates/drivers does not exist, cannot rebind fglrx_updates driver
[23:46] <pjotter> 2012-02-02 00:41:44,802 ERROR: xorg:fglrx_updates: get_alternative_by_name(fglrx-updates) returned nothing
[23:46] <pjotter> 2012-02-02 00:41:44,931 DEBUG: fglrx.enabled(fglrx_updates): target_alt None current_alt /usr/lib/fglrx/ld.so.conf other target alt None other current alt /usr/lib/fglrx/alt_ld.so.conf
[23:46] <pjotter> 2012-02-02 00:41:44,931 DEBUG: fglrx_updates is not the alternative in use
[23:46] <pjotter> 2012-02-02 00:41:45,003 DEBUG: fglrx.enabled(fglrx_updates): target_alt None current_alt /usr/lib/fglrx/ld.so.conf other target alt None other current alt /usr/lib/fglrx/alt_ld.so.conf
[23:46] <pjotter> 2012-02-02 00:41:45,004 DEBUG: fglrx_updates is not the alternative in use
[23:47] <charlie-tca> well_laid_lawn: easier that way?
[23:47] <pjotter> This is from jockey.log
[23:47] <well_laid_lawn> yep
[23:48] <well_laid_lawn> pjotter: have you rebooted since installer
[23:48] <pjotter> Yes
[23:48] <pjotter> several times
[23:49] <w30> Is there a tweak to make ristretto have a print function?  What image viewer would be recommended for xubuntu that canprint?
[23:50] <well_laid_lawn> pjotter: seems the driver didn't install properly   /sys/module/fglrx_updates/drivers does not exist
[23:50] <w30> gimp is awful for just viewing and printing
[23:50] <pjotter> should it have been there?
[23:51] <pjotter> I'm trying: sudo dpkg-reconfigure fglrx-driver
[23:53] <pjotter> I have to reboot. brb