[02:53] <iceroot> nice, lubuntu-software-center is in the repos :)
[03:01] <iceroot> could someone have a look here? i cant see what is causing this but i guess its one of the lubuntu-packages https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dia/+bug/925255
[03:01] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 925255 in dia (Ubuntu) "Reading state information... Done dia-gnome-gnome: package not found" [Undecided,New]
[03:05] <Unit193> Bug #886680
[03:05] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 886680 in app-install-data-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "Dia fails to install from the Software Center: There isn't a software package called "dia-gnome-gnome" in your current software sources" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/886680
[03:05] <iceroot> ubot5`: thanks, i will mark is as a duplicate
[03:05] <iceroot> Unit193: ^
[03:06] <Unit193> Hehe, happened before :P
[03:07] <iceroot> hm, that is already a 11.10 bug from november...
[03:09] <Unit193> Has a workaround though
[03:10] <iceroot> i dont see why "install dia" is a real workaround
[03:12] <Unit193> Gets it installed = workaround
[03:12] <iceroot> i dont want it to be installed
[03:12] <iceroot> but apt-get is working with the data from app-install-data  and there is a wrong entry for dia-gnome
[03:13] <iceroot> e.g. if in app-install-data would be texlife instead of texlive the workaround would be to install texlive
[03:13] <iceroot> but that is just my opinion
[03:16] <iceroot> Unit193: thank you for the info and the bug searching :)
[03:19] <Unit193> Righto, got my burrito now :D
[03:29] <clache> Hi, i use Lubuntu11.10. I find too slow the movement of the mouse(it's a trackpoint), in spite of to have adjusted the mouse properties at maximum. I adjust it in "Keyboard and mouse" panel and the value is conserved. Is it a file where i can put a higher value?
[04:03] <JackAnansi> I'm trying to execute some python script from the file manager via double-click. I added the #!/usr/bin/env/ python3 line to the file, chmod +x it, and it still won't run. Is it because of LXTerminal, or some other problem?
[04:03] <JackAnansi> It brings up a window asking whether I want to execute it, execute it in terminal, etc. Both of those options do nothing.
[05:26] <rawfodog> how do I put a desktop short cut into my task menu, or programs menu ? (I made a custom lock screen app and right now it sits on the desktop awkwardly)
[05:31] <bkm> i wish i new the answer. my question is: why would i get more results by typing:  $ groups <username>  than i do by typing:  $ groups  ??
[05:33] <bkm> my answer was in the man page, thx!
[09:42] <head_victim> phillw: you around?
[09:43] <head_victim> Actually anyone who knows about bug 918401 would be good :)
[09:43] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 918401 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu) "Unity-greeter installed by default on Lubuntu, crashing on start" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/918401
[09:44] <kanliot> in the meeting yesterday they said that bug would unfortunately not be fixed for the alpha 2
[09:44] <kanliot> wh/e that means
[09:44] <head_victim> Yeah jmarsden asked for a simpler how to to fix it
[09:44] <head_victim> So I was going to propose:
[09:44] <head_victim> To do this when the screen goes blank press control+alt+F1 to bring up
[09:44] <head_victim> the tty1 terminal. From this prompt type in "sudo apt-get install
[09:44] <head_victim> lxdm" and enter in your password. After this has completed you should
[09:44] <head_victim> type "sudo reboot" and it should boot up as expected.
[09:44] <head_victim> But I don't have the ability to test it so if anyone does, please let me know if it's technically accurate
[09:45] <kanliot> why can't you test it
[09:45] <head_victim> The hard drive I kept all my virtualbox drives on failed.
[09:45] <head_victim> Haven't been able to afford to replace it yet.
[09:46] <kanliot> ok
[09:46] <kanliot> so that's with the daily iso?
[09:47] <head_victim> It's just the latest snapshot of current development progress. If you've never tested before it might be worth waiting until alpha2 comes out though if you're using it on anything remotely production.
[09:47] <kanliot> heh, how bad could it be?
[09:48] <head_victim> I had been running 12.04 from the day 11.10 was released in my virtual box so when things broke I could just wipe and start over (but hadn't happened this cycle yet!)
[09:48] <head_victim> If you don't know what you're doing fixing things the worst it can be is a wipe and start over.
[09:48] <head_victim> And lots and lots of wasted time ;)
[09:49] <kanliot> actually i need to learn how to install all my common packages quickly
[09:49] <kanliot> i hear you can just export a list of installed packages and then cut and paste that into a new script on a new machine
[09:50] <head_victim> Me personally, I don't ever run development releases on bare metal unless it's an entirely spare machine
[09:50] <kanliot> ok thats good advice i bet
[09:50] <head_victim> kanliot: yep, I'm about to run away or I'd find a link for you
[09:50] <kanliot> :)
[09:50] <head_victim> Essentially the list can be generated from synaptic or from cli, so google whichever way sounds more exciting.
[09:50] <kanliot> yeah
[09:51] <kanliot> i'll check your method and post it on the mailing list
[09:52] <kanliot> it belongs on the list right?
[10:55] <sva> mh the question from clache is interesting, as my mouse speed can not be saved in the gui. is there a config file that can be edited for mouse speed?
[11:00] <MrChrisDruif> I don't know sva
[11:50] <head_victim> kanliot: cheers for testing, I just updated the bug comment for bug 918401 to reflect your results :)
[11:50] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 918401 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu) "Unity-greeter installed by default on Lubuntu, crashing on start" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/918401
[11:55] <kanliot> yeah toolk me longer than i thought, ran into another bug while i did it.  the install wizard window was too big for the screen in the virtual machine
[14:35] <giuseppe60> hello
[15:39] <ebone> Hi
[15:40] <ebone> I installed the lubuntu-desktop and core packages in my Ubuntu system and I was hoping it would switch over my desktop environment and display manager.
[15:40] <ebone> It doesn't seem to have worked.
[15:40] <ebone> I'm definitely still on Gnome after a reboot/login. The display manager still looked like gdm, but it's artwork did change.
[15:41] <kanliot> did you change session on the login scren?
[15:41] <ebone> Anyway... is there a "ubuntu way" to change your display manager and desktop enviornment?
[15:41] <ebone> well, the apt-install routine asked me what display manager I wanted to use and I choose lxdm.
[15:42] <kanliot> i mean the login screen
[15:42] <ebone> But, like I said, it doesn't seem to have switched it. The login screen looks exactly the same except for a blue background instead of the original "red clay" look.
[15:42] <kanliot> what you see if you log out
[15:42] <ebone> ohh, yeah. You know. i was looking for a way to select a window manager.
[15:43] <ebone> Hold on. Let me try again.
[15:43] <ebone> I couldn't find where to do that, but maybe I just wasn't that observant.
[15:47] <ebone> okay. When I put a login ID it pops up.  ;)
[15:47] <ebone> I didn't notice that at first.  I can select Lubuntu or lxde.
[15:49] <ebone> Something really weird here!
[15:50] <ebone> I'm in the Lubuntu desktop, but the title bars on windows is flashing continuously!
[15:50] <kanliot> is it the update window
[15:50] <kanliot> otherwise might be a bug
[15:51] <ebone> It looks like it's any window.
[15:51] <ebone> I wonder if I have enough video ram?  I have 32mb.
[16:08] <ebone> I think maybe I had 2 display managers running.
[16:08] <ebone> It seems "fixed" now, for the moment.
[16:37] <Unbekannter> hi
[16:37] <Unbekannter> i have a problem
[16:38] <Unbekannter> yesterday i have install lubuntu 11.10 on my computer and now i want to use skype
[16:38] <Unbekannter> but i cant use my webcam mikro
[16:38] <Unbekannter> *micro
[16:38] <Unbekannter> how can i use my webcam as standart mic?
[16:39] <Unbekannter> and where can i find audio settings like ubuntu ?
[16:39] <Unbekannter> sry for my bad english..
[16:39] <epictetus> okay
[16:40] <epictetus> so one of the best things about lubuntu is it does not include this thing called pulseaudio
[16:40] <epictetus> but what pulseaudio does is magically make all the different sound chips your computer might have (i.e. built in soundcard, webcam sound card, USB headphones have a sound chip in them, USB microphone, etc) and make them all magically work like they are all part of one big sound system
[16:41] <epictetus> pulseaudio is SUPER buggy and is one of the things that makes regular ubuntu really slow and laggy and crashes your machine all the time
[16:41] <epictetus> but
[16:41] <epictetus> the downside of not having it is, you ahve to use alsa tools directly and/or tell your apps more specifically about which sound cards to use
[16:41] <Unbekannter> ok
[16:41] <epictetus> (alsa is a more low level sound layer)
[16:42] <Unbekannter> how can i open audio settings?
[16:42] <epictetus> for alsa i recommend an app called alsamixer
[16:42] <Unbekannter> ok
[16:42] <Unbekannter> i look in the software-center for it
[16:43] <Unbekannter> ok alsamixer is installed
[16:43] <epictetus> but in some cases you also need to tweak app settings (i.e. you need to tell skype which sound input to use)
[16:44] <epictetus> ok from a console window run alsamixer and hit F6
[16:44] <epictetus> that should pop up a list of sound cards / sound chips detected
[16:44] <epictetus> is the sound chip you are trying to use in that list
[16:45] <Unbekannter> ok i have start alsa mixer
[16:45] <Unbekannter> but its not in console
[16:45] <epictetus> oh
[16:45] <epictetus> GUI one is okay too
[16:45] <epictetus> i'm not sure where, it should have a list of sound cards somewhere
[16:45] <Unbekannter> my soundcard is not very good its a onboard
[16:46] <epictetus> is the webcam USB?
[16:46] <epictetus> and it has a built in microphone too?
[16:46] <Unbekannter> yes
[16:46] <Unbekannter> its a Logitech
[16:46] <Unbekannter> with usb 2.0
[16:47] <epictetus> okay i think it should show up as a USB sound device
[16:47] <epictetus> when you bring up alsamixer somewhere should be a list of sound cards
[16:47] <epictetus> is there a USB sound card listed?
[16:48] <epictetus> actually skype should have its own list
[16:48] <epictetus> if you run skype go to options -> sound options, there should be a dropdown for "sound in"
[16:48] <Unbekannter> i dont understand
[16:48] <epictetus> is there a USB option in that list
[16:48] <epictetus> forget alsamixer just run skype
[16:48] <epictetus> go to options -> sound options
[16:49] <epictetus> there is an option "sound in"
[16:49] <epictetus> that is a dropdown'
[16:49] <epictetus> what is in the list?
[16:49] <epictetus> is there only 1 choice in the list?
[16:49] <epictetus> or 2 choices?
[16:49] <epictetus> or 5?
[16:49] <Unbekannter> where is options?
[16:49] <Unbekannter> i only habe "File" "Edit" and Help
[16:50] <epictetus> in Skype?
[16:50] <epictetus> skype?
[16:50] <Unbekannter> no in mixer
[16:50] <epictetus> FORGET MIXER
[16:50] <epictetus> GO TO SKYPE
[16:50] <Unbekannter> ok
[16:50] <epictetus> hah
[16:51] <Unbekannter> ok
[16:51] <Unbekannter> i have do in skpye Options
[16:51] <Unbekannter> then sound devices
[16:52] <epictetus> OKAY
[16:52] <epictetus> what is in the list
[16:52] <epictetus> for sound in
[16:52] <Unbekannter> i cant see sound in
[16:52] <epictetus> more particularly, is there anything with a name like "usb audio"
[16:52] <Unbekannter> there is micrphone
[16:52] <epictetus> oh
[16:52] <epictetus> same thing
[16:52] <Unbekannter> microphone
[16:53] <Unbekannter> its a long list
[16:53] <epictetus> okay
[16:53] <epictetus> well
[16:53] <epictetus> one of those options might make your audio work
[16:53] <epictetus> especially if the option has a name that sounds like "usb audio" or "logitech"
[16:53] <Unbekannter> is it usb device
[16:53] <epictetus> yes
[16:53] <Unbekannter> or INTEL ICH6
[16:54] <epictetus> intel ICH6 is the built in sound on the machine it will only work if you plug a microphone into the sound port on the computer directly
[16:54] <epictetus> you want USB
[16:56] <Unbekannter> ok
[16:56] <Unbekannter> there are a lot of usb
[16:57] <Unbekannter> USB audio default audio device
[16:57] <Unbekannter> usb audio front speakers
[16:57] <Unbekannter> usb audio 4.0 surround output
[16:58] <Unbekannter> usb IEC958
[16:58] <Unbekannter> usb direct sample snooping
[16:59] <Unbekannter> usb direct hardware device
[16:59] <Unbekannter> and usb audio
[16:59] <Unbekannter> what is the right?
[17:05] <toscho> hi
[17:06] <toscho> how can I change my "back" key on my laptop to a "home" key?
[17:12] <holstein> toscho: check out http://stray-notes.blogspot.com/2011/01/lxde-remap-keyboard-shortcuts.html ...you can use nano for the text editor :)
[17:13] <holstein> thats more for the shortcuts though...
[17:13] <holstein> looks like this should work with LXDE http://askubuntu.com/questions/24916/how-do-i-remap-certain-keys
[17:20] <toscho> the first works for shortcuts. but i don't want a shortcut, I want the "back" button to behave like the "home" button
[17:20] <toscho> the second uses xmodmap
[17:21] <toscho> i have a solution with xmodmap, but xmodmap is incompatible with setxkb
[17:21] <holstein> cool... so you are sorted out then?
[17:21] <toscho> as I need xkboptions set with setxkbmap, I need a compatible solution
[17:21] <toscho> no, I'm not sorted out
[17:22] <holstein> i didnt mean to be unclear.. i tried to imply that the first option was for remapping shortcuts by saying "thats more for the shortcuts though" but i realize that is vague and unclear
[17:22] <toscho> you were very clear
[17:22] <toscho> ah. you posted the first link as well
[17:22] <holstein> yeah, i was just spitballing...
[17:22] <toscho> I didn't get that, as it was a different color
[17:23] <holstein> toscho: do you have a string that works, and is just not persistant?
[17:23] <toscho> I'm still not used to XChats highlighting
[17:23] <holstein> i hate to suggest #ubuntu since its so noisy... maybe #ubuntu-beginners ?
[17:23] <holstein> not to imple you are a beginner
[17:23] <holstein> imply*
[17:23] <toscho> xmodmap's solution is persistent (when added to a startup script)
[17:24] <toscho> it's just that I can't use xmodmap and setxkbmap in the startup script as the second one kills the changes from the first one
[17:25] <holstein> how about http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/MovingTheCtrlKey#toc5 ?
[17:25] <holstein> youd need to adapt it for your needs
[17:26] <holstein> setxkbmap -option back:swaphome ...though im sure thats not it.. but something like that
[17:28] <toscho> I thought more of one of these key symbol maps about which there is lot of abstract documentation
[17:32] <kanliot> online class on ubuntu documentation if anyone needs a class
[17:47] <skaet> we've got some new lubuntu desktop images posted - is there anyone around who can give them a quick test out to see if the issues have been sorted?
[17:48] <skaet> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/206/builds
[18:21] <kirill> hello there
[18:22] <kirill> please help me i have dlna on win7 and laptop on lbuntu how i can wath video from dlna server on my lubuntu?
[20:29] <moes> Dell Dimension l800r plentin 3 800 mhz 384 ram intel i810 video card....Which version would be compatible for this pc...I want to have better than 800x600 resolutions
[20:29] <iceroot> moes: lubuntu 11.10 should be fine
[20:29] <moes> it is lxde desktop right
[20:30] <iceroot> moes: but if i am correct the normal cd needs 512mb ram for installation (the later system is fine with 256) maybe try the minimal cd for that
[20:30] <iceroot> moes: lxde with openbox
[20:31] <moes> Thanks for the info
[20:31] <iceroot> moes: you are welcome
[20:32] <bmoez> hi, could lubuntu run in old pc with 128Mo orf ram and 32bit cpu? :-)
[20:33] <bioterror> 32bit CPU yes, 128MB of RAM only with alternative installer
[20:33] <bioterror> but I would not say that it would be a nice experience ;)
[20:34] <bmoez> :)
[20:34] <iceroot> bmoez: my system is using less then 128mb if not starting firefox
[20:34] <bioterror> iceroot, *than
[20:34] <iceroot> bmoez: but of course with some programs i am using more then 128mb, so i guess your swap will do a lot of work
[20:35] <bmoez> if, i would run many program? will puppylinux be better?
[20:36] <bioterror> more RAM would be better, like double
[20:37] <bmoez> So, 256Mo will be enough!
[20:37] <iceroot> bmoez: depending on the programs of course
[21:15] <Unit193> skaet: You get everything you needed yet?
[21:16] <skaet> Unit193, would be nice if someone could test the newly published desktop image.   If they're good, we can still push them out.
[21:17] <Unit193> skaet: They're working on checking them now
[21:17] <skaet> Unit193, :)  great!
[21:21] <venik212> Serious sound problem (mostly recording) on Lubuntu 11.10 with NVIDIA MCP79
[21:21] <venik212> can anyone help?
[21:25] <Unit193> Open a terminal and type   alsamixer
[23:12] <sva> a question... if i choose at LCTerminal do hide the menu - how can i ever get back to the menu?
[23:13] <sva> shortcut F10? but didnt worked with me
[23:13] <sva> (i left the menu open cause i was afraid of closing it after hiding the menu bar)
[23:14] <Unit193> You could just remove your config for lxterminal > .config/lxterminal/lxterminal.conf
[23:14] <sva> but it woul dbe nice, because the font is so huge (and it wont get smaller, even when i set every font i find to 8px
[23:14] <Unit193> iceroot: Heh, are you Basse or Rawson?
[23:15] <sva> Unit193: oh, serious? thats no option if i wanna e.g. make the terminal font bigger for showing something etc
[23:15] <iceroot> Unit193: basse
[23:15] <sva> btw, i miss ctrl+/- for in/decreasing the terminal
[23:15] <iceroot> Unit193: the one hitting "n" :)
[23:15] <Unit193> sva: Just saying the easy way to revert it, you can also edit the file, etc/
[23:16] <Unit193> iceroot: Does sudo apt-get upgrade work?
[23:16] <sva> Unit193: so there is no shortcut to get the menu when it is hided?
[23:17] <sva> and is there a shortcut for de/increasing size+font? (cause that would be the most I would use at the menu)
[23:18] <iceroot> Unit193: upgrade will pull the libg* correctly
[23:18] <Unit193> sva: right click > preferences
[23:19] <sva> Great!
[23:19] <iceroot> Unit193: seems to be fixed, dist-upgrade working also
[23:19] <sva> tnx alot! sorry for asking and not finding out myself...
[23:19] <Unit193> iceroot: Alrighty, thanks (Just was wondering some background)
[23:20] <iceroot> Unit193: imo upgrade should not destroy it, because upgrade will never change other packages just the upgraded ones
[23:20] <Unit193> Exactly, just updating ones in place
[23:21] <iceroot> yes
[23:21] <iceroot> i am just using ctrl+r dis enter :)
[23:22] <iceroot> and on important systems always dist-upgrade -s first