[00:01] <MrChrisDruif> I only seemed to have your @ubuntu email. Should be fine I guess ^_^
[02:31] <bkerensa> Mmm Pizza
[03:23] <doctormon> mhall119: GitHub support! http://imagebin.org/196812
[08:01] <dholbach> good morning
[08:15] <dpm> good morning all
[08:16] <benonsoftware> Hello dpm
[08:16] <dpm> hi benonsoftware
[08:17] <dholbach> benonsoftware, happy birthday! :)
[08:17] <benonsoftware> Thanks :p
[08:20] <dholbach> ok, I think I'll take the plunge and take the dog for a walk
[08:20] <dholbach> it's -13°C
[08:20] <bkerensa> hmm
[08:21] <dholbach> if I don't come back you know what happened
[08:21] <bkerensa> wow
[08:21] <bkerensa> thats 8.6 degrees
[08:21] <benonsoftware> lucky
[08:24]  * nigelb waves from a toasty 21 C
[08:25] <alourie> good morning
[08:25] <dholbach> wow, I just had a look, it just seem to be United States, Cayman Islands and Belize who use the Fahrenheit scale - that's not many :)
[08:26] <nigelb> Yeah. Everyone else in the world uses common sense and Celsius :P
[08:26] <bkerensa> heh
[08:27] <nigelb> I just washed my bike 15 minutes back.
[08:27] <nigelb> The sun is hot enough that its completely trdry.
[08:28] <czajkowski> forecastis for -16 this weekend in Brussels
[08:28] <czajkowski> I may in fact curl up and die!
[08:28] <bkerensa> Europe used to use Fahrenheit right?
[08:28] <nigelb> ooh, you're already in Brussels?
[08:29] <bkerensa> see when I see people saying its going to be negative any temp it just gives me goose bumps because I think freezing :D
[08:29] <czajkowski> nope London
[08:30] <dholbach> bkerensa, at least the UK seems to have used it before the 70s (according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celsius)
[08:30] <czajkowski> minus figured do tend to be freezing
[08:30] <nigelb> technically, negative in celsius is freezing.
[08:30] <dholbach> but anyway, I'll go out now - see you in a bit :)
[08:32] <bkerensa> Oh Fahrenheit was invited by a German :D
[10:50] <s-fox> Ping for jcastro when you are around / awake
[10:55] <czajkowski> s-fox: is this re the FC by any chance?
[11:01] <s-fox> Yes czajkowski
[11:02] <czajkowski> s-fox: anything I can help wiht , follwoing the ticket
[11:02] <s-fox> Which ticket czajkowski ? We have 2 issues at the moment. ;)
[11:02] <czajkowski> the sso
[11:03] <s-fox> We were confused by Marks reply on the mailing list. We want to know what is going to happen now regarding SSO vs the security issue we found.
[11:04] <czajkowski> s-fox: the way I read it was jcastro has found someone to work on it and mark was happy about that
[11:05] <s-fox> Have you seen the information regarding the  security & privacy breaches ?
[11:05] <czajkowski> yes
[11:05] <czajkowski> but that is on the same ticket no?
[11:06] <s-fox> Our concern is the privacy of our userbase vs a nice to have feature.
[11:06] <czajkowski> s-fox: it's not just a nice feature, its a necessity though
[11:06] <s-fox> Privacy is not?
[11:06] <czajkowski> I do appeciate the security breach is an issue though
[11:07] <s-fox> 4 administrator accounts have had problems in the last 6 months.
[11:07] <czajkowski> s-fox: is there a ticket specifically about the breach ??
[11:08] <s-fox> I believe the ticket is 16733
[11:08] <s-fox> ticket 19247 is also related to the breach.
[11:09] <czajkowski> thats the one I was asking for
[11:09] <czajkowski> ok
[11:09] <czajkowski> cant view it
[11:09] <czajkowski> let me go and see if I can get more info on it
[11:10] <s-fox> czajkowski,  I have just read marks email to the list.
[11:11] <s-fox> It appears SSO is being put on hold in view of the security issue.
[11:11] <s-fox> Or at least a point upgrade.
[11:15] <czajkowski> s-fox: so it's been looked into
[13:11] <mhall119> morning
[13:15] <mhall119> dholbach: ping
[13:15] <dholbach> mhall119, pong
[13:16] <mhall119> can you merge from lp:~mhall119/+junk/unity-stats/ again?
[13:16] <mhall119> and can you also delete data/unity-patch-bugs on cranberry, that data was bad
[13:17] <dholbach> just a sec
[13:17] <mhall119> thanks
[13:17] <mhall119> oh, and is ./ubuntustats/ in bzr for you?  On my local checkout it's saying it's unknown
[13:18] <dholbach> no, I just branched it into there
[13:18] <dholbach> from ~dholbach/+junk/ubuntustats
[13:19] <dholbach> merged your branch, deleted the file and now running the script for you
[13:19] <mhall119> is there a reason for having it separate?
[13:19] <dholbach> I use it in a couple of other places too
[13:20] <mhall119> but not the udd-sponsoring-stats?
[13:20] <dholbach> err, you mean http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring-stats/?
[13:20] <mhall119> I'm trying to pull your contributor graphs from udd into unity
[13:21] <mhall119> yeah
[13:21] <dholbach> it uses it too
[13:21] <dholbach> but not all parts of it are fully ported to it yet
[13:21] <dholbach> I just keep of running out of time to move everything to it
[13:21] <mhall119> understood
[13:22] <mhall119> mind if I add tools.py from udd-sponsored-stats/stats into unity-stats/ubuntustats?
[13:22] <dholbach> not at all - there should be no conflicts I guess
[13:22] <mhall119> if there are I'll clean them up
[13:23]  * dholbach hugs mhall119
[13:23] <dholbach> one day, maybe during a sprint we can sit together and make it all tidy, tight and nice
[13:24] <dholbach> most graphs were "we need this data and we should have had it yesterday" jobs
[13:24] <dholbach> and I mostly just went back to fix them when they were broken
[13:24] <dholbach> :-/
[13:26] <dholbach> wow, my mouse pointer is moving around on its own
[13:26] <dholbach> what the ...
[13:27] <mhall119> dholbach: I've been thinking of how we can convert it all into a django app
[13:27] <dholbach> that'd be nice indeed
[13:27] <dholbach> with proper logging, so if data sources get broken, we can go back and fix them
[13:27] <mhall119> maybe even unity tests
[13:27]  * mhall119 *gasps*
[13:27] <mhall119> unit,
[13:27] <mhall119> I've got unity on the brain
[13:27] <mhall119> I can't type unit without my fingers adding the y
[13:28] <dholbach> ok, I'll reboot - this is getting weird
[13:30] <dholbach> ok, now I can go back to work :)
[13:36] <mhall119> oh, I have a classroom session in 2.5 hours
[13:40] <alourie> balloons: ping
[13:40] <Pendulum> mhall119: good thing you remembered now?
[13:40] <alourie> balloons: sorry for being MIA a bit, I'm still getting used to the new schedule
[13:41] <mhall119> Pendulum: yeah
[13:42] <mhall119> have a little time to prepare
[13:42] <mhall119> though, I'm not sure what to prepare...
[13:56] <akgraner> pleia2, cjohnston  - sorry I missed the request somewhere (or just spaced it) - I have meetings from 1500 Sunday until (I'm hoping the until doesn't last the entire length of the Super Bowl) - however, I should know more tomorrow and I can let you know then if that's not to late.
[14:13] <james_w> dholbach, hi. So I stupidly booked a dentist appointment for the same time as my developer week session
[14:14] <mhall119> james_w: the anesthetics are going to make for an amusing session, I'm sure :)
[14:22] <cjohnston> hehe
[14:24] <snap-l> Have someone at the dentist office transcribe your talk
[14:24] <nigelb> popey: You're awesome. Just sayin.
[14:25] <snap-l> "And furthermore blarf nargle bip garflnargin"
[14:26] <nigelb> wow. http://www.cmu.edu/homepage/computing/2012/winter/ipad-course.shtml
[14:29] <popey> lol
[14:31] <dpm> james_w, perhaps you can ask some of the guys that come before your session if they'd want to swap. I see seb128, om26er, mhall119, tumbleweed, coolbhavi and jbicha have sessions before your one
[14:31] <james_w> swapping later would be better actually, I'll see if aq doesn't want to go back-to-back
[14:32] <mhall119> I can't swap, I have a call at 1800
[14:49] <dholbach> james_w, or swapping with kirkland maybe?
[14:50] <nigelb> 41
[14:51] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek Day 3 (last day) starting in 8 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[14:52] <dpm> \o/
[14:54] <dpm> james_w, let me know how the swapping goes, and once you know the new time, I'll announce the session on the ubuntuappdev social media channels
[14:57] <nigelb> AlanBell: Had you seen http://sharejs.org/ yet?
[15:01] <nigelb> dholbach: How does doing shorter UDW feel like? Good? Bad?
[15:01] <dholbach> nigelb, good
[15:01] <dholbach> we had a lot of short topics we could handle very well
[15:01] <nigelb> \o/
[15:01] <nigelb> Buy sil a drink next time you see him :)
[15:02] <nigelb> (I *think* he suggested it)
[15:02] <dholbach> ah nice
[15:02] <dholbach> on the other hand it was quite a bit of work to get the schedule together
[15:02] <nigelb> heh
[15:03] <nigelb> The original idea was
[15:03] <nigelb> 30 mins is easier to sell.
[15:03] <dholbach> yeah, but more slots to fill ;)
[15:07] <jcastro> yeah, all that was sil's idea
[15:07] <jcastro> it's only like 3 more slots, we did the math
[15:08] <nigelb> Oh. right. I remember that now.
[15:08] <jcastro> don't worry, I wouldn't conciously add more work
[15:08] <jcastro> 3 extra sessions is worth dropping 2 days worth imo
[15:08] <nigelb> We should cut down user days too. That should make it easier.
[15:08] <nigelb> jcastro: YES
[15:08] <jcastro> I believe the google term is "less arrows, but more wood behind each one."
[15:08] <nigelb> And it saves weekend!
[15:09] <nigelb> (especially for classroom team)
[15:09] <jcastro> yup
[15:09] <jcastro> plus no monday first thing blam IRC week when you're not even awake yet
[15:09] <nigelb> heh
[15:31] <james_w> dpm, dholbach: schedule updated. kirkland couldn't swap, but aq could
[15:31] <dholbach> james_w, awesome
[15:32] <dpm> james_w, great
[15:32] <dholbach> james_w, all the best with the dentist programme
[15:32] <james_w> thanks
[15:32] <dpm> james_w, now make sure the dentist leaves you in a state you can type at least :)
[15:32] <dholbach> I'm happy for om26er - he just told the audience "I had my first ever date yesterday <3"
[15:32] <nigelb> haha
[15:32] <nigelb> :)
[15:32] <jcastro> hah you know what that means
[15:32] <doctormon> Hey nigelb
[15:32] <jcastro> he'll disappear at some point
[15:33] <nigelb> hey doctormon
[15:33] <nigelb> jcastro: lol
[15:33] <jcastro> remember when robert carr discovered women? He was gone for like 3 years
[15:33] <nigelb> dholbach: So, I joined the Mozilla webdev team when they did an AMA on reddit.
[15:33] <nigelb> One of the questions was "Are women impressed when they hear you're part of mozilla dev team"
[15:34] <dholbach> I guess it very much depends on the type of women
[15:34] <dholbach> some impressed, some depressed, I guess
[15:34] <nigelb> Yeah, we had fun answering that question :)
[15:34] <nigelb> http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/oonrg/iama_member_of_the_mozilla_webdev_team_ama/c3itqoz
[15:34] <doctormon> nigelb: Collectively or on average?
[15:35] <jcastro> cjohnston: mhall119: nigelb: You guys have seen this right? http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/
[15:35] <cjohnston> interesting
[15:35] <cjohnston> i hadnt
[15:35] <nigelb> jcastro: already using it at work.
[15:35] <jcastro> ah excellent
[15:36] <jcastro> just making sure someone knew it was there
[15:36] <jcastro> cjohnston: it's pretty bad ass
[15:36] <doctormon> jcastro: Talking of github http://imagebin.org/196812
[15:36] <jcastro> Oh man, NICE NICE!
[15:37] <jcastro> the little cat guy is cute!
[15:37] <mhall119> jcastro: yes
[15:37] <jcastro> or octocat or whatever they call it
[15:37] <mhall119> jcastro: we did a prototype in ISD using it,  very slick
[15:37] <doctormon> Yeah got an svg of him. hard to find.
[16:25] <jcastro> mhall119: ping
[16:25] <mhall119> jcastro: teaching
[16:25] <jcastro> k
[16:29] <mhall119> jcastro: ok
[16:32] <balloons> jcastro, last night i had a dream google bought juju.. more importantly, if I'm dreaming with google, does that means they really own all my data and know everything about me? :-) I dream with google! number one dream search engine
[16:33] <jcastro> you need a hobby. :)
[16:33] <koolhead17> juju dream
[16:34] <mhall119> balloons: this is what happens when you don't read the Terms of Service
[16:35] <mhall119> you agree to let them implant Google DreamAds into your brain
[16:35] <balloons> mhall119, isn't there an adblock for that?
[16:35] <balloons> :-)
[16:36] <mhall119> balloons: yes, but you've got to pay for them
[16:37] <balloons> shoot.. they told me everything was free ... no consequence...
[16:40] <technoviking> jcastro: ping-a-ling
[16:41] <mhall119> balloons: no consequence to *them*
[16:42] <jcastro> technoviking: yo
[16:42] <technoviking> jcastro: you need anything from me for the php SSO forum volenteer
[16:43] <jcastro> Him and Newz talked
[16:43] <jcastro> can you ping newz? He should know the details
[16:43] <jcastro> But they've been linked up already
[16:43] <technoviking> sure
[16:44] <jcastro> Hey so, would now be a bad time to bring up this phpbb thing?
[16:44] <technoviking> seeing if upgrade to 3.8.7 will fix the security issues on the forums
[16:44] <technoviking> it is always a bad time, but I think it is the right thing to do
[16:44] <jcastro> I can't believe we pay for something that doesn't even have openid support
[16:45] <technoviking> I'm totally for moving the old forums to an forums archive linked to phpbb front end
[16:46] <technoviking> not sure if transfer accounts would work, people make have to start from scratch
[16:46] <technoviking> would lose alot of the forums community
[16:46] <jcastro> what do you mean?
[16:47] <jcastro> oh, a large percentage of people have local only accounts?
[16:47] <popey> most probably do
[16:47] <snap-l> jcastro: Pretty sure anything you do with the forums will piss off a lot of people
[16:47] <technoviking> I have not found a way to transfer the vBB database to phpbb, even only the user account
[16:47] <snap-l> even if you just leave it as it is
[16:47] <jcastro> snap-l: owned forums will probably piss them off more
[16:47] <technoviking> 97%+ I bet
[16:48] <mhall119> jcastro: did you need me?
[16:48] <snap-l> phpbb is a strange beast
[16:48] <snap-l> there's a lot of "interesting" design decisions
[16:49] <jcastro> mhall119: yeah
[16:49] <jcastro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview#preview
[16:49] <jcastro> so skaet will usually ping you the day before an alpha/beta to give these a once over
[16:50] <jcastro> and I used to just add links to upstream projects in the notes
[16:50] <jcastro> to ensure that upstream projects are getting proper attribution
[16:50] <jcastro> so for example, in the line about rhythmbox, I change that to add a link to the upstream page, etc.
[16:51] <jcastro> then when you're done you say "ok ready" and she passes it on to the web team for proper publication
[16:52] <jono> morning all
[16:52] <cjohnston> morning
[16:52] <doctormon> hello jono
[16:52] <jono> hey doctormon
[16:52] <jono> hows things?
[16:52] <jono> hey cjohnston
[16:53] <dholbach> hey jono
[16:53] <jono> hey dholbach
[16:54] <doctormon> jono: doing great http://imagebin.org/196903 How's you?
[16:54] <mhall119> jcastro: alright is she waiting on me currently?
[16:54] <mhall119> or did you update this one
[16:55] <jcastro> I took care of it
[16:55] <jcastro> but she's going to ping you for future releases
[16:55] <jcastro> It's basically just ensuring our upstreams get a shout out in the release notes.
[16:56] <mhall119> jcastro: will do, thanks
[17:10] <jcastro> technoviking: s-fox: ok the forums issue is at the top of IS level of attention already.
[17:11] <pleia2> thanks jcastro
[17:13] <technoviking> jcastro: who should I ping IS if vb 3.8.7 will work
[17:13] <jcastro> I am not sure yet
[17:14] <technoviking> will ping the RT once I heard
[17:14] <s-fox> jcastro,  Thank you :-)
[17:15] <jcastro> technoviking: you're looking for mbarnett
[17:21] <technoviking> jcastro: cool thanks
[17:29] <bodhizazen> Anyone here familiar with Launchpad might have a minute to help me set up a team ?
[17:33] <jussi> bodhizazen: probably better to ask in #launchpad?
[17:37] <bodhizazen> Thanks, I am getting help =)
[17:41] <balloons> jcastro, mhall119 there's a weird line in the release notes preview on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview#preview. Both of this reduces power consumption and thus battery lifetime. should be like "Both of these changes help reduce power consumption and thus increase battery life".
[17:42] <jcastro> balloons: fix it in the wiki and then ping skaet or someone on #ubuntu-release
[17:43] <balloons> ohh.. I haz the powerz...
[17:44] <doctormon> balloons: Can I suggest "These changes increase battery life through reducing power consumption"? Marketing says accent the recognisable.
[17:45] <balloons> doctormon, yes.. the sentence didn't make sense.. but your right. .It could also be said in a better way
[17:46] <doctormon> balloons: Or even "reducing power waste", :-)
[17:49] <mhall119> doctormon: IMO, "consumption" is more easily measurable and verifiable than "waste"
[17:50] <doctormon> mhall119: Yes, and it's also meaningless in real terms, I can reduce the power consumption to zero by making the kernel shutdown the computer on each boot.
[17:50] <doctormon> The question is, is the computer using less power but doing the same things as before.
[17:50] <doctormon> If yes, then logically we have less waste.
[17:51] <mhall119> likely it's doing less than before, just not in a way that the user will mind
[17:51] <mhall119> but yes, people care about wasting power more
[17:52] <doctormon> s/doing the same things/doing the same useful work/
[17:53] <mhall119> yes
[17:53] <mhall119> personally, I prefer talking about consumption for two reason
[17:53] <mhall119> as an engineer, I natually ask "how much less", and units of energy are more meaningful than units of waste
[17:54] <mhall119> as a human, I negatively association the word "waste", so I don't want people reading about waste (even the reduction of it) in the context of Ubuntu
[17:55] <doctormon> There's a study in there somewhere
[17:55] <mhall119> while "this sucks 50% less" is literally good, the mood it puts the reader in isn't
[17:55] <jono> ok in ~5?
[17:55] <mhall119> jono: yup
[17:55] <jono> mhall119, sweet
[17:55] <doctormon> mhall119: Lasts longer then?
[17:56] <doctormon> Makes better use of electrons than leading brands of soap.
[17:57] <mhall119> heh
[17:57] <mhall119> I think 'reduces power consumption' is good
[17:57] <mhall119> both 'power' and 'consumption' generally put people's brains into a positive mood
[17:57] <mhall119> and 'reduces' make it literally good as well
[17:58] <doctormon> I'm convinced.
[17:58] <mhall119> :)
[17:59] <mhall119> I'm putting "Convinced somebody on IRC to agree with me" on my list of this week's achievements
[18:00] <jono> LOL
[18:01] <jono> mhall119, creating a hangout
[18:02] <doctormon> mhall119: maybe an acheivement trophy?
[18:03] <mhall119> doctormon: nah, that's too hard
[18:03] <doctormon> hard to verify anyway
[18:03] <jono> mhall119, invite sent
[18:04] <nigelb> dholbach: ping?
[18:04] <dholbach> nigelb, pong
[18:05] <nigelb> dholbach: what was the change after james_w shift?
[18:05] <nigelb> there seems to be a missing session
[18:05] <nigelb> I moved sil around in the calender just now.
[18:05] <dholbach> eh?
[18:05] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek
[18:06] <dholbach> 18 UTC: Adding Ubuntu One to your applications -- aquarius
[18:06] <dholbach> 18:30 → 19:29 UTC: Pair Programming and Code Review in the Cloud! -- kirkland
[18:06] <dholbach> 19:30 UTC: Syncing your app data everywhere with U1DB -- aquarius
[18:06] <dholbach> 20:00 UTC: Automated packaging with pkgme -- james_w
[18:06] <dholbach> ...
[18:07] <dholbach> nigelb, ^ does that look alright to you?
[18:07] <nigelb> sec
[18:07] <nigelb> let me compare
[18:08] <nigelb> dholbach: ok, is that after james's switch for the dentist?
[18:09] <dholbach> yes
[18:09] <nigelb> ok, so apparently, it is.
[18:09] <nigelb> let me fix classroom calender.
[18:09] <nigelb> You forgot that bit :)
[18:09] <dholbach> thanks muchly
[18:09] <dholbach> yes, I was in the middle of 5 things throughout the day
[18:09] <dholbach> sorry
[18:09]  * dholbach hugs nigelb
[18:09]  * nigelb hugs dholbach 
[18:09] <nigelb> Happy to help, just let me know if you want to delete stuff like this.
[18:10] <dholbach> delete what?
[18:10] <nigelb> dholbach: *delegate
[18:10] <dholbach> ahhhhh
[18:10] <dholbach> :-)
[18:11] <nigelb> Missed two chars :)
[18:11] <nigelb> dholbach: Is Fixing internationalisation bugs still on?
[18:12] <nigelb> Its not on the calender. I wonder if I accidentally screwed it up.
[18:12] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek should be accurate
[18:12] <s-fox> Goodbye.
[18:12] <bodhizazen> 'lo doctormon
[18:13] <doctormon> hey bodhizazen
[18:14] <nigelb> dholbach: okay, all fixed!
[18:15] <technoviking> bodhizazen: I'm looking to make sure we can patch the 3.8.7 to fix the security hole
[18:15] <dholbach> nigelb, ROCK
[18:15] <dholbach> thanks! :)
[18:15] <nigelb> :)
[18:16] <cjohnston> Does anyone know if we have any iPhone devs in our community?
[18:16] <nigelb> popey!
[18:16] <nigelb> I think he does.
[18:19] <dholbach> alrightie - have a great rest of your day everyone
[18:19] <dholbach> and see you tomorrow
[18:19] <dholbach> HUGS
[18:20] <nigelb> g'nite dholbach!
[19:41] <jcastro> pleia2: around?
[19:42] <jcastro> kirkland tells me there's a problem with them getting voice on -classrom
[19:42] <bkerensa> jcastro: http://i.imgur.com/LSaDJ.jpg
[19:42] <akgraner> jcastro,  does he need voice now?
[19:42] <jcastro> I think so
[19:43] <akgraner> ok
[19:43] <jcastro> bkerensa: I'm the cloud guy, I don't do local music. :)
[19:44] <bkerensa> ;)
[19:45] <akgraner> jcastro, aq and kirkland have been voiced
[19:58] <bodhizazen> jcastro: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuforumssso
[19:58] <jcastro> I saw the post, thanks!
[19:59] <bodhizazen> If you know anyone else interested, have them email myself or another of the FC
[19:59] <bkerensa> :D
[19:59] <jcastro> is that guy going to put his code there?
[19:59] <bodhizazen> I have asked the forms staff to hand in this channel a bit more
[19:59] <bodhizazen> We are hoping to keep code in LP, yes
[19:59] <jcastro> ok
[19:59] <jcastro> let me tell newz
[20:00] <bodhizazen> FWIW - The "chat" feature on ask ubuntu is not well liked by my corporate firewall =(
[20:00] <bkerensa> If you are transitioning to vb4 there was a vbulletin developer who tried to get SSO going on vb4 but I think he abandoned such efforts
[21:50] <s-fox> Hello, I need to get in touch with someone at canonical legal. Anyone know a good place to start?
[21:55] <doctormon> s-fox: They have a good email address. check canonical.com if it's not about a community issue.
[22:00] <s-fox> I've been looking on the website doctormon , I can't see a contact email for the legal dept.
[22:00] <s-fox> :-(
[22:01] <balloons> s-fox, hmmm
[22:01] <doctormon> s-fox: Have you tried emailing legal@canonical.com ?
[22:01] <s-fox> No doctormon , I couldn't see that listed so have not emailed it. Thank you. :-)
[22:18] <bkerensa> :)
[22:48] <doctormon> mhall119: ping