| blair | tumbleweed, opened 5 tickets, last one for pyside-tools is https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/925206 | 00:37 |
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| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 925206 in pyside-tools (Ubuntu) "Sync pyside-tools 0.2.13-3 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] | 00:37 |
| Riddell | blair: why do you care about pyside out of interest? | 00:55 |
| blair | Riddell, we're moving a PyQt 3 app to pyside instead of pyqt and i'm also trying to get our facility to move from fedora 13 to 12.04, so i want the latest version available | 00:56 |
| Riddell | blair: why are you moving an app to pyside? | 00:56 |
| blair | we have an app already, it's just in pyqt3 | 00:56 |
| blair | are you asking why pyside instead of pyqt? | 00:57 |
| Riddell | blair: right | 00:57 |
| Riddell | on terminology PyQt3 means python bindings for Qt 3, I expect you mean PyQt4 with Python 3? | 00:58 |
| blair | yes, PyQt3 means Python 2.x with Qt3 bindings | 00:59 |
| Riddell | oh I see | 00:59 |
| blair | and the choices are moving to Python 2.x with PyQt4 or pyside | 00:59 |
| Riddell | so you're porting to Qt 4 as well as PyQt -> PySide | 00:59 |
| blair | we're not looking to move to python 3 | 00:59 |
| blair | yes | 00:59 |
| Riddell | which still leaves the question of why PySide and not PyQt4 | 01:00 |
| blair | i understand you can code them with a shim layer that can work with either | 01:00 |
| blair | but pyside has nokia developers | 01:00 |
| blair | off to a meeting, can discuss more later | 01:01 |
| Riddell | blair: you should be able to just change the import and it'll work with either (mostly) | 01:04 |
| Riddell | but PySide is losing its Nokia support and it's unknown if it can survive as a community project http://lists.pyside.org/pipermail/pyside/2011-December/003259.html | 01:04 |
| Riddell | whereas PyQt has a well established company behind it | 01:05 |
| Riddell | (one man company) | 01:05 |
| blair | Riddell, there's one advantage to pyside, it's LGPL while pyqt is GPL | 01:54 |
| blair | Riddell, didn't know about them loosing support, we decided 3-4 months ago to go with pyside and haven't started the porting effort, so this is news | 01:56 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 08:01 |
| geser | Guten Morgen dholbach | 08:02 |
| dholbach | hey geser :) | 08:02 |
| ajmitch | hi dholbach, geser | 08:02 |
| geser | Hi ajmitch | 08:03 |
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| _rahmat_ | hi everyone. i'm using quickly in ubuntu 10.04 and following video tutorial in http://developer.ubuntu.com everything work fine, until I type quickly package, quickly get error with error message "An error has occured during package building ERROR: package command failed Aborting" here is screenshot of quickly http://paste.ubuntu.com/826217/ . Any idea? thanks | 11:04 |
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| alucardni | hello, is there a way to use bzr behind a proxy??? | 14:32 |
| dholbach | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek Day 3 (last day) starting in 8 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom | 14:52 |
| Zhenech_ | mh, is there no backport of a dh_python2 enabled python to lucid? | 15:49 |
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| tumbleweed | debfx: Been running update-rdepends with your patches | 17:01 |
| tumbleweed | so far 707MB, and I started it 4 hours ago :P | 17:01 |
| tumbleweed | (compared to 287) | 17:01 |
| tumbleweed | ah, and it finished | 17:02 |
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| Rhonda | hmm. I have issues with my wesnoth-1.10 backport. It will require packaging changes because of the droids fonts changed their install path in precise. | 17:47 |
| Rhonda | It will require two changes in debian/rules and the different package name in debian/control. Would that be acceptable for backports? | 17:48 |
| micahg | Rhonda: yes | 18:18 |
| micahg | Rhonda: just attach a debdiff to the backports bug | 18:18 |
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| ScottK | jtaylor: So are you going to fix Debian Bug#639995 in Ubuntu then? | 21:18 |
| jtaylor | ScottK: already working on it | 21:18 |
| ScottK | Excellent. Thanks. | 21:18 |
| Laney | iulian: http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/glasgow-haskell-users/2012-February/021764.html ? ;-) | 21:48 |
| iulian | Uh! | 21:51 |
| directhex | Laney, does it have a stable ABI yet? | 22:25 |
| Laney | nah who needs that | 22:26 |
| iulian | :) | 22:27 |
| * Laney wonders why dist-upgrade wants to remove half the world | 22:28 | |
| stgraber | Laney: can you define "half the world"? | 22:30 |
| Laney | quite precisely, yes | 22:30 |
| Laney | http://paste.debian.net/154552/ | 22:30 |
| stgraber | Laney: that looks like glib | 22:31 |
| stgraber | or maybe gtk, both were uploaded earlier | 22:31 |
| stgraber | Laney: yep, just got the same here, that's indeed glib | 22:31 |
| Laney | what about it? skew? | 22:32 |
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| Laney | ah, I need to wait for gtk to read me | 22:33 |
| Laney | reach | 22:33 |
| stgraber | I don't see anything stuck in new, so yeah, I'd thing it's an archive skew | 22:33 |
| Laney | - Breaks on gtk << 3.3.12, glib and gtk needs to be updated together | 22:35 |
| Laney | due to the gmenu parser changes | 22:35 |
| * ajmitch shall be careful not to blindly upgrade today :) | 22:40 | |
| stgraber | upgrading just after a freeze is usually a bad idea ;) | 22:42 |
| ajmitch | upgrading just after feature freeze has to be about the worst | 22:42 |
| ajmitch | hopefully there won't be too much breakage around freeze time in precise, but it's usually a bit chaotic | 22:43 |
| stgraber | agreed :) | 22:43 |
| broder | can we slap somebody for not staging massive breakage like that in a PPA? | 22:55 |
| RAOF | broder: I think that should become standard practice, yes. Possibly once we have the ability to get things *out* of a PPA into the archive, though. | 23:02 |
| broder | oh, i didn't realize that was unusually difficult | 23:02 |
| Laney | is it? | 23:02 |
| broder | we also talked about staging transitions in -proposed pre-release, which presumably wouldn't suffer from those problems | 23:02 |
| Laney | Possibly copyPackage is broken with include_binaries=True | 23:02 |
| * ajmitch thought it still required some manual intervention copying to the archive | 23:02 | |
| Laney | but syncSource works afaik | 23:03 |
| RAOF | Yeah. | 23:03 |
| RAOF | When we wanted to copy the X stack out of staging we needed an archive admin to do the deed. | 23:03 |
| Laney | I'll try copyPackage when I next get a chance | 23:03 |
| RAOF | Also we'd really want armel/armhf to be working for virtualised PPAs first; otherwise we just dump the breakage on architectures we don't test as a matter of daily routine, and which are hard pressed to build things :) | 23:04 |
| broder | RAOF: but s/PPA/-proposed/ would have worked for you guys, right? | 23:05 |
| RAOF | I think so? | 23:05 |
| RAOF | I mean, I'm fairly sure it'd work for *me*, but that's because I have archive admin privs. | 23:06 |
| broder | oh, should copyPackage theoretically work just using your standard upload privileges? | 23:17 |
| Laney | ye | 23:18 |
| broder | fancy | 23:18 |
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