[00:00] <ActionParsnip> Glowball: no flash in lynx
[00:00] <Glowball> Btw, ActionParsnip, you might want to use your love for chromium to help me fix it on my system :)
[00:01] <frantic> can anyone suggeset a decent/reliable iso mounting "virtual drive" program for ubuntu?
[00:01] <franz_> hi, how to get Network detailed info? as dns server, network mask, etc
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> Glowball: I just see too many folks having issus with firefox so I suggest chromium
[00:01] <oliv3> Hi there, is there an equivalent of #debian-mentors for ubuntu ?
[00:01] <Glowball> I have added the Chromium beta ppa (https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/beta) to my repositories, but it doesn't seem to be updating anymore. Latest version on my system is 15, latest version in the ppa is 17
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> franz_: ifconfig; cat /etc/resolv.conf
[00:02] <Nowayz> Accidently typed sudo chmod 777 -R /  instead of ./
[00:02] <Nowayz> any hope of recovery?
[00:02] <Glowball> ActionParsnip: You should just forward them to irc.mozilla.org, #Firefox
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> Nowayz: oh jeez
[00:02] <overclucker> Nowayz: that's pretty unrecoverable
[00:02] <Nowayz> No kidding
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> Glowball: i just fix them up and ship em off
[00:03] <Glowball> ActionParsnip: But it would be great if you could help me with my Chromium issue
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> Glowball: wassup?
[00:03] <Nowayz> I wish it would verify when I try to set file permissions on the entire FS
[00:03] <Glowball> ActionParsnip: I have added the Chromium beta ppa (https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/beta) to my repositories, but it doesn't seem to be updating anymore. Latest version on my system is 15, latest version in the ppa is 17
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> Nowayz: dude its complex and will take AGES. I'd just reinstall and restore userdata from backups
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> Glowball: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> Glowball: I use the same ppa, its awesome
[00:04] <Nowayz> I guess i'll have to, it's going to take FOREVER to install everything unfortunately
[00:05] <Nowayz> stupid tiny typo jacks up the os
[00:05] <Glowball> ActionParsnip: You could just ask what version I was running, really.. :P I'm on 10.10, Maverick
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> Glowball: i find it easier
[00:05] <Glowball> The ppa still supports Maverick.
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> Glowball: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install chromium-browser     should do it
[00:07] <Nowayz> why not just use google chrome?? then at least you get plugin compatability
[00:07] <KC-45> what pdf readers do u guys recommend?
[00:07] <Glowball> ActionParsnip: It doesn't. Synaptic shows 15.something as latest available version, Software Centre only shows the libvpx packages in the ppa.
[00:07] <KC-45> im a newbie btw
[00:07] <Nowayz> uh why not use the one from adobe
[00:07] <KC-45> so...pdf readers for ubuntu...what u guys have faith in the most?
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> KC-45: evince is in a default install....
[00:07] <Nowayz> they did after all design the pdf format
[00:07] <KC-45> oh
[00:07] <staner> I have x11vnc installed and setup to auto run on startup.  I have autologin set to true.  Upon rebooting I can vnc into the machine without any inputnecessary on the host, everything works fine.  I want to remove the Video Card from this machine.  I set the BIOS to not halt on errors.  The harddrive performs work and I can ping the machine but the x11vnc service is not starting.
[00:07] <KC-45> lol
[00:07] <Glowball> Nowayz: Were you saying that to me?
[00:08] <Nowayz> yeah
[00:08] <KC-45> evince?
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> Glowball: can you give a pastebin of the output of:   apt-cache policy chromium-browser
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> !info evince | KC-45
[00:08] <KC-45> ok
[00:08] <KC-45> thnx
[00:09] <Nowayz> adobe.com also has their own, if you prefer i
[00:09] <Glowball> ActionParsnip: The ppa doesn't seem to be listed... http://pastebin.com/HJUNvJ6w
[00:09] <Glowball> ActionParsnip: I tried removing and readding it already, but it didn't help.
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> Glowball: if you run:  grep chrom /etc/apt/sources.list      do you get output?
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> Glowball: sorry:   grep chrom /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[00:13] <Glowball> ActionParsnip: The first one gives output. With the d added, it doesn't.
[00:13] <overclucker> Glowball: there's the problem
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> Glowball: oh, so you added it manually in sources.list?
[00:14] <Glowball> ActionParsnip: No, I used Administration > Software Sources
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> Glowball: but it's listed in the sources.list file?
[00:14] <KC-45> ok
[00:14] <KC-45> im using eveince :D
[00:14] <Glowball> ActionParsnip: It had been working for a long time. Have been using it since Chromium 8 or so. But it just stopped working
[00:14] <KC-45> evince^
[00:14] <KC-45> thx
[00:15] <Nowayz> lol
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> Glowball: remove the lines from /etc/apt/sources.list    then run:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chromium-daily/beta; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:16] <share> Processing triggers for shared-mime-info ...
[00:16] <share> Unknown media type in type 'all/all'
[00:16] <share> how can I fix this?
[00:16] <Nowayz> Glowball: Why not just use googlecrhome, that way you can just not worry about the chromium repo not working, and you get better plugin support
[00:17] <share> chrome is evil
[00:17] <KC-45> lol
[00:17] <KC-45> what isnt?
[00:17] <overclucker> Nowayz: chromium has ia pretty blue icon
[00:17] <share> me
[00:17] <KC-45> these days...
[00:17] <KC-45> its 2012....everything's evil -_-
[00:17] <Glowball> Nowayz: Because, as you say, it's *Google* Chrome
[00:17] <KC-45> in fact...the devils greatest trick was convincing mankind he didnt exist :D....
[00:18] <share> llol
[00:18] <Nowayz> That's ACTAULLY your reason
[00:18] <KC-45> claiming ur not evil...solidifies the fact that u are :D
[00:18] <Nowayz> because its branded?
[00:18] <share> !offtopic
[00:18] <overclucker> Nowayz: chromium daily is way upstream
[00:18] <Nowayz> So if ubuntu said Canonical Ubuntu you wouldn't use it?
[00:18] <Glowball> Hey, where did ActionParsnip go?
[00:19] <Glowball> Nowayz: Of course I would. I trust Canonical :)
[00:19] <Nowayz> overclucker: It may be, but you don't get anything extra that a stable release of chrome doesn't give you, or if you do chrome will be updated soon anyway
[00:20] <Glowball> Nowayz: I have no problem in using *Mozilla* Firefox either, you know :)
[00:20] <KC-45> i love irc...
[00:21] <Glowball> But I don't like using software from a company whose CEO states "Privacy is something only criminals want. If you don't want anyone to know what you're doing, you shouldn't be doing it anyway."
[00:21] <Nowayz> Glowball: so you rather use software from some un-named programmers who are NOT legally liable
[00:21] <Nowayz> Sounds reasonable.
[00:21] <KC-45> lol
[00:21] <Glowball> Nowayz: If that software is 100% open source like Chromium? Yes.
[00:21] <Olte> hello , please help me with my microphone im trying to fix it since 10h and nothing :(
[00:22] <Olte> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/898
[00:22] <Olte> i have same problem as guys here :(
[00:23] <Nowayz> I'm sure you examine every line of source code making sure it's safe
[00:23] <Nowayz> In all of the open-source software you use
[00:23] <LjL> Nowayz, Glowball: this discussion doesn't really belong in #ubuntu - please move it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:24] <Glowball> LjL: You're right about that. Sorry.
[00:24] <Olte> where should i ask about help ?
[00:24] <graft> Olte: here...
[00:24] <Glowball> Olte: You are at the right place :)
[00:24] <Glowball> (But I don't have an answer for you, I'm sorry)
[00:25] <Nowayz> Olte are you sure it wasn't working originally
[00:25] <Nowayz> Or did you just not know how to configure your the sound settings?
[00:25] <Olte> i used microphone here on ubuntu
[00:25] <Olte> but i changed something and it stopped work
[00:25] <Nowayz> what did you change?
[00:26] <acerimmer> Olte, check your sound preference input/output/hardware
[00:26] <Olte> maybe software in synaptic package manager  but im not sure
[00:26] <Olte> im trying to fix it since 10 h i made a lot things to fix it and still nothing :/
[00:26] <Olte> yes yes , i checked everything
[00:26] <Olte> but sound works well
[00:26] <Olte> only microphone not works
[00:27] <overclucker> Olte: have you checked your mixer settings?
[00:27] <acerimmer> Olte,  do you have webcam?  do a test recording.  if you get sound from that...
[00:28] <Nowayz> if you have more than one input device change between all of them, make sure the sound is MAX and see if making noise produces any bars on the display
[00:28] <Olte> i checked mixer , but i dont know how i should set it
[00:28] <Nowayz> Do what I said to see if you ever get any bars
[00:28] <Olte> i have webcam , and there is no sound on video
[00:29] <Olte>  Item: Mic Boost (+20dB) [Off]
[00:30] <acerimmer> Olte, alsamixer in your terminal...
[00:30] <Olte> yes i know
[00:30] <Nowayz> turning the boost up can help you tell if the mic is working
[00:30] <_Ryth> Anyone know what the channel is for g++ on here?
[00:30] <Nowayz> sometimes it's very quiet
[00:30] <overclucker> Olte: in alsamixer, check if Mic is MM, toggle key is m
[00:31] <Olte> its MM
[00:31] <Gnea> MM means it's muted and won't work
[00:31] <overclucker> Olte: toggle it with 'm', and adjust the volume with up, down
[00:31] <Olte>  now its
[00:31] <Olte> 00
[00:32] <Nowayz> volume all the way up
[00:33] <wavedigit> hi, how would I customize this PS1 for the prompt to be red color? "\[\e]0;\u@\h: \w\a\]${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w\$ "
[00:33] <Olte> i changed all on max
[00:33] <Olte> all 00
[00:33] <Olte> and still not works
[00:36] <Olte> :(
[00:36] <P-J> Hi all :)
[00:37] <P-J> I wonder if anyone might be able to help me with a dual-monitor issue. Probably not too difficult :)
[00:37] <overclucker> Olte: amixer | pastebinit
[00:39] <Candlehawk> Hi, I have a slight issue. I am running xubuntu 11.10, and just realised I can not "su" as I wasn't able to set my root password on install. How do I find out what my root password is?
[00:39] <Olte> http://paste.ubuntu.com/825838/
[00:39] <flowerpot> Candlehawk, use sudo
[00:40] <zykotick9> !root | Candlehawk
[00:40] <[deXter]> lol @ ubottu
[00:40] <flowerpot> Candlehawk, if you really must set password for root then try using sudo passwd
[00:41] <zykotick9> !noroot | flowerpot
[00:41] <Olte> overclucker: http://paste.ubuntu.com/825838/
[00:41] <P-J> Basically, I've got an nVidia GeForce GTX 260 in this machine, and I can set up a spanned monitor setup no problems (using nvidia-settings). The problem occurs when I try to save the setting. It writes to the xorg.conf file and when I restart, I get loads of weirdness with the unity file browser and other stuff. Huge fonts, no windows decorations, and no icon images. Anyone know what I should do here? As long as I don't try to
[00:41] <P-J> save the settings (and re-do it each time I restart) it's fine.
[00:41] <Candlehawk> ubottu: Why not?
[00:41] <Candlehawk> oh wow.
[00:41] <Candlehawk> I have to say, that's better than Bucket.
[00:41] <flowerpot> zykotick9, that's all well and good, but it's like saying 'it is impossible to have sex; we do not speak of it' in a sex ed class
[00:42] <flowerpot> it would be preferable to explain that having a root password, while possible, is unnecessary, redundant, and undesired for security reasons
[00:44] <Candlehawk> flowerpot: I suppose in many situations that may be the case, I just like to have the option. Then again, I prefer aptitude over apt-get, so my opinion has strayed from Ubuntu before.
[00:44] <tfitts> has anyone here installed dtc to manage a web server on ubuntu?  I'm trying to install it on 10.04 and I keep getting an error with dtc-postfix-courier
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> Candlehawk: aptitude is still available, just not default installed
[00:46] <Candlehawk> ActionParsnip: I know. It was the first thing I installed.
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> Candlehawk: so its not really straying from ubuntu...
[00:48] <Candlehawk> ActionParsnip: Well, I suppose.
[00:50] <P-J> Hi all. I've got an nVidia GeForce GTX 260 in this machine running a fresh 11.10 install. I can set up a spanned monitor setup no problems (using nvidia-settings & current closed source nVidia driver), but have a problem when I try to save the setting. It writes to the xorg.conf file and when I restart, I get loads of weirdness with the unity file browser and other stuff. Huge fonts, no windows decorations,  no icon images and
[00:50] <P-J> massive text in dialog boxes. Anyone know what I should do here? As long as I don't try to save the settings (and re-do it each time I restart) it's fine, but I'd like to save if possible.
[00:50] <P-J> Here's a screenshot to show the issue : http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21679/ubuntu_screen.png
[00:51] <Descra> Hi, i have just read that you can shop Kinect for PC (windows 7). Do you think that we will have a linux driver soon?
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> P-J: I get that, I have to set DPI manually
[00:51] <P-J> Thanks ActionParsnip-- Where would I do that? In the xorg.conf?
[00:51] <singh> how do I change my timezone?
[00:52] <singh> dpkg-reconfigure tzdata says unknown command dpkg-reconfigure
[00:52] <singh> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime
[00:52] <scarleo> Descra, check this: http://openkinect.org/wiki/Main_Page
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> P-J: I'll pastebin the file
[00:53] <P-J> ActionParsnip: Brilliant, thanks :)
[00:53] <steve__> hello
[00:53] <P-J> Does it also resolve the 'no images in icons issue'? I struggle to understand how that's related to DPI, but I guess if you get it too, it must be :)
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> P-J: http://paste.ubuntu.com/825850/
[00:54] <steve__> i have absolutely no idea how to use ubuntu
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> steve__: you'll learn with time
[00:54] <acerimmer> steve__: learn by doing...
[00:54] <worstadmin> I have a problem - Im running vnc server on ubuntu and connecting using tight-vnc
[00:55] <worstadmin> However I just connect to a blank X display
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> P-J: yep the dpi line I have will sort that
[00:55] <P-J> Excellent :) Cheers!
[00:55] <worstadmin> Even though the machine has X - gnome3 installed (which is where I start vncserver from)
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> worstadmin: what are you connecting to the desktop to achieve?
[00:55] <escott> !manual | steve__
[00:56] <worstadmin> To see my desktop remotely ActionParsnip
[00:56] <Descra> scarleo, oh, ok. It seems a project that dates long time ago. Never heard about. Thx
[00:56] <luismauricio> hello
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> worstadmin: yes, but to achieve what?
[00:56] <luismauricio> hola
[00:56] <acerimmer> luismauricio: greetings
[00:56] <worstadmin> ActionParsnip, Something I don't want to use ssh or the command line for. I need a graphical display
[00:56] <steve__> !manual
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> worstadmin: 9 times in 10, vnc isn't needed and there are sleeker ways to do things
[00:57] <worstadmin> ActionParsnip, I've been using linux for some time. I'm positive I dont need ssh for this
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> worstadmin: there is more than ssh
[00:57] <KC-45> i love irc...
[00:57] <worstadmin> Okay, sigh. I need to see my desktop - Im using vncserver. Im aware theres tightvnc and vino
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> worstadmin: for example, you can manage torrents via web interface(transmission has a web UI which can be enabled)
[00:58] <worstadmin> Action - Can we just pretend Im curious about my question
[00:58] <worstadmin> And not web management, ssh, or other ways of controlling it
[00:58] <P-J> ActionParsnip: Is there a way in Ubuntu to restart X without a reboot? I used to do ctrl-alt-bkspc but that doesn't seem to work here...
[00:59] <worstadmin> P-J ctrl+alt+f5 - then kill -9 the X process
[00:59] <P-J> Ta :)
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> P-J: alt+k+printscreen willrestart X but the apps running willdie too
[00:59] <worstadmin> It will automatically respawn
[01:00] <steve__> that manual is for 10.10
[01:00] <steve__> i'm on 11.10
[01:00] <steve__> doesn't seem to be matching up
[01:00] <scarleo> steve__, what u need help with?
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> steve__: the principals are the same...
[01:00] <steve__> i've never used linux before. I honestly haven't the slightest clue what im doing lol
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> steve__: how is that funny?
[01:01] <barakisbrown> how do I reinstall grub after I had to format it because I had to reinstall win7 on the drive..Linux is on a seperate drive that did not get touched
[01:01] <DinoMuffin> ActionParsnip: relax bro.
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> barakisbrown: www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video/
[01:01] <escott> steve__, it would help to know what part is confusing you. the gui is very flexible. if you are confused by the unity gui then the instructions for starting a command would be different, but once you start the program the manual should be appropriate to follow
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> barakisbrown: you can reinstall grub to the MBR using a chroot from the liveCD
[01:03] <worstadmin> Ah I figured it out
[01:05] <barakisbrown> ActionParsnip: Is there a gui that can do this without me typing all the commands at the video you linked?
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> barakisbrown: not that I know of. It's not hard, it's like 4 commands....
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> why does EVERYTHING have to have a GUI....
[01:06] <worstadmin> Talking from vnc now :) x1llvnc is what I wanted - vncserver just spawns a new blank display which needs a window manager
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> barakisbrown: windows can reinstate its own bootloader too using CD, it has no gui either
[01:07] <DinoMuffin> what's the problem man?
[01:07] <worstadmin> Although I think I will try ion-wm with that
[01:07] <DinoMuffin> there's no reason to get all angry about a simple question
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> worstadmin: what irc client do you use?
[01:07] <barakisbrown> ActionParsnip: I like the bootscreen that Grub2 had prevoius..
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> DinoMuffin: not angry, just curious..
[01:07] <worstadmin> ActionParsnip, irssi and sometimes xchat
[01:07] <worstadmin> Why?
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> barakisbrown: the commands will reinstate the loader to the MBR, the config is untouched
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> worstadmin: pure curiosity
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> worstadmin: is it irssi?
[01:08] <barakisbrown> ActionParsnip: the commands in the video?
[01:08] <worstadmin> Well you can read up above
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> barakisbrown: yes, it will put the bootloader on the MBR then reread the config which is untouched :)
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> worstadmin: I can't see your client named, sorry
[01:10] <worstadmin> worstadmin> ActionParsnip, irssi and sometimes xchat
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> worstadmin: if you just want to run an irc client, you can use X forwarding over ssh. Irssi you can run in an SSH session as it is CLI
[01:11] <worstadmin> Haha ActionParsnip - I'm aware of X Forwarding
[01:11] <barakisbrown> ActionParsnip: thanks.
[01:11] <worstadmin> I keep telling you, if there something other than a full X display I wanted - I'd have done it
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> worstadmin: your call, i like to suggest alternatives to vnc
[01:12] <worstadmin> Besides for remote irc im a screen+irrsi person
[01:12] <Nowayz> although i knew it was possible,i've never run x over vnc before, is it any good?
[01:13] <barakisbrown> If my live usb is 11.04 and my installed linux is 11.10, will that be a problem?
[01:13] <escott> barakisbrown, no
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> barakisbrown: its fine, as long as the distro has the chroot command, any linux distro is fine :)
[01:14] <escott> barakisbrown, unless one is 32bit and the other is 64bit
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> escott: good catch
[01:15] <escott> ActionParsnip, got burned on it a few months ago... wasted a few hours of some poor guys time
[01:16] <nino_> buenas, necesito ayuda para configurar un router tp-link con una ip fija
[01:16] <nino_> por favor
[01:16] <barakisbrown> escott: how do you tell between 32 and 64 on a live usb inside windows?
[01:16] <escott> !es | nino_
[01:16] <nino_> gracias,
[01:18] <escott> barakisbrown, uname -a... one of uname -i -p -m should also say but i can never determine which is which. so just do uname -a and see if it all says x86_64 or all says i386/i686. if it says x86_64 and i686/i386 then you are running 32bit on 64bit hardware
[01:18] <barakisbrown> escott: I am not in linux at the modment..how do I tell which version I have installed on my usb before I boot..I am in windows now
[01:18] <scarleo> barakisbrown, if you still have the iso file just check the name
[01:18] <escott> barakisbrown, sorry missed the inside windows bit. see if /lib64 exists
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> escott: weird how it affects it like that
[01:19] <escott> ActionParsnip, what part? why chroot doesnt work with incompatible archs?
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> escott: yeah, what's that about
[01:19] <barakisbrown> I see binary-amd64 .. Is that 64bit?
[01:19] <escott> barakisbrown, yes
[01:19] <Nowayz> gonna ask again since there are new people on BUT I typed chmod 666 -R / (instead of ./) and my entire OS is fk'd, is there anyway I can fix this without reinstalling??
[01:20] <barakisbrown> thanks
[01:20] <escott> Nowayz, no. reinstall see !clone
[01:21] <escott> ActionParsnip, because chroot doesn't change the loaded libc. in times past when gcc changed its ABI chroot would break across system version
[01:22] <carlosmafud> hola
[01:23] <carlosmafud> im looking for mexican channels
[01:23] <escott> !alis | carlosmafud or see #ubuntu-es
[01:23] <carlosmafud> thanks4 data
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> escott: ahhh makes sense, thanks for clearing it up
[01:28] <escott> ActionParsnip, also the kernel is unchanged so for more obvious reasons a 64bit binary cannot run in a chroot on a 32bit kernel. but i remember dealing with abi/chroot stuff under gentoo with gcc 3.0 iirc
[01:28] <peter7tam> magnets, how do they work??
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> escott: oh yeah, the kernel will still be the same wont it..
[01:32] <benbloom> i need a quick hand with thunderbird. is there somewhere else i should ask?
[01:34] <escott> benbloom, if your plan is to ask another channel if they are the place to ask the question I would suggest not doing so
[01:34] <Ihatelegacy> hey guys, I need some help and maybe you can ablidge. Know that im running an outdated version (i cant update atm) 8.04 and im trying to get sound. I'm so far not. Alsa is all set up and it detects my ancient sound blaster card
[01:35] <Ihatelegacy> any ideas?
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> Ihatelegacy: hardy is supported on server still
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> Ihatelegacy: or are you using the desktop version?
[01:35] <Ihatelegacy> yep parsnip
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> Ihatelegacy: which?
[01:37] <Ihatelegacy> ohh im using the desktop version of hardy
[01:37] <Ihatelegacy> my bad, misunderstood your question
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> Ihatelegacy: its cool B)
[01:37] <Ihatelegacy> i cant update to 10 as my graphics card isnt supported in that version
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> Ihatelegacy: hardy desktop is no longer supported in any way. It is EOL, you can however upgrade to Lucid in a single jump
[01:38] <benbloom> ok well i'm gonna aske here because I don't know where else to ask escott. I'm running thunderbird on kde and suddenly i'm missing the part of the window that displays mailboxes. i have the generic 'mozilla thunderbird window, but the tab at the top has no name and when i click on 'read messages' nothing happens. I tried removing thunderbird with apt-get and reinstalling it, but nothing changed.
[01:38] <Ihatelegacy> my laptop bit the dust this morning so im stuck on this ancient beast. When i booted it today and it checked /dev/sda1 it was "You've not checked in 2800 days." I was like "wow"
[01:39] <Ihatelegacy> ActionParsnip, see my previous post. When i go to update it says that... sec
[01:39] <escott> benbloom, have you checked the far left of the screen. it can be resized maybe it got sized to 0px
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> Ihatelegacy: 7.5 years...
[01:39] <escott> benbloom, so just try and click and drag on that far left part (it may help to maximize the window first)
[01:40] <Ihatelegacy> ActionParsnip, like i said, ancient beast
[01:40] <Ihatelegacy> crt monitor the whole shebang
[01:40] <Ihatelegacy> but it says this "This computer is currently using the AMD 'fglrx' graphics driver. No version of this driver is available that works with your hardware in Ubuntu 10.04 LTS."
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> Ihatelegacy: i have systems that old :)
[01:41] <Ihatelegacy> im not planning on doing any gaming on this thing...besides what would i run nethack? so would that be a big problem? the error message above?
[01:41] <benbloom> escott, thanks for the suggestion. doesnt work. it looks like there's an empty pane on the left where mailboxes are usually shown
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> Ihatelegacy: the open source driver will run it, or you can even use vesa which will run any video chip
[01:42] <Ihatelegacy> awesome, hopefully that will fix my sound issue too`
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> Ihatelegacy: most likely, try Oneiric in liveCD...
[01:42] <Teo_Neapoli_Rang> hello
[01:43] <Teo_Neapoli_Rang> is this world chatroom?
[01:43] <escott> benbloom, are the accounts listed in account settings under "edit"
[01:43] <Ihatelegacy> i was going to just use the update manager, would using a livecd or usb be better?
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> Ihatelegacy: its faster and more reliable
[01:43] <Ihatelegacy> tnx
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> Ihatelegacy: I'd clean install if it works :)
[01:44] <tfittsy> if I have a hostname of server.example.com should my fqdn also be server.example.com ?
[01:45] <benbloom> escott, all my emails are listed if i compose a new email but now (this is a new development) all the menus are greyed out on the main screen
[01:45] <yumbo> How can I start a program after boot?
[01:45] <Ihatelegacy> tnx a bunch parsnip heres a picture of richard stallman and bill gates in a passionate embrace for your reward
[01:45] <Ihatelegacy> http://www.thelinuxblog.com/uploads/stallman.png
[01:45] <yumbo> I added the command to /etc/rc.local, make /etc/rc.local executable and rebooted, but that didn´t work
[01:46] <Ihatelegacy> there ya go, enjoy that
[01:46] <escott> benbloom, you could try renaming ~/.thunderbird and see if something in your settings are off
[01:46] <osmosis> how do I turn off pidgin desktop notifications
[01:48] <Nowayz> l
[01:48] <xangua> osmosis: disable Libnotify plugin on pidgin plugin preferences
[01:49] <xangua> osmosis: but i believe that will make pidgin not integrate with the message indicator
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> osmosis: its a plugin, just disable it
[01:51] <Nowayz> Why does empathy suck
[01:52] <Nowayz> I have bots messaging me and it lacks the features to block the abusing emails
[01:52] <osmosis> ActionParsnip, i can configure it from plugins dialog too
[01:52] <Nowayz> How fundamental of a feature, yet it has no way to do that
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> osmosis: exactly :)
[01:55] <IHateHavingToReg> I want to connect via Telnet to my localhost VirtualBox running Ubuntu. Can someone tell me how I should set up my network port forwarding rules to allow this? Thanks.
[01:56] <gryphus71> bonsoir
[01:57] <Thirtysixway> I have a wubi question.  Is there any way to run a windows script that will reboot the machine into wubi/ubuntu?
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> IHateHavingToReg: if you set the network to be bridged, it will get an IP from the LAN and will appear as a system on the network. You can then connect as if it were a real PC on your network
[01:58] <benbloom> so escott, I mv'd the .thunderbird dir, purged the thunderbird install and reinstalled it and the problem persists!
[01:58] <IHateHavingToReg> ActionParsnip thanks, one more question - does a telnet server automatically start up?
[01:58] <Thirtysixway> I mean I would imagine a very hacky script could be done to mess with the boot loader settings, just curious if there's any other way
[01:59] <iceroot> IHateHavingToReg: is there a reason why you need a telnet-daemon?
[01:59] <escott> benbloom, odd. sounds like a library issue but i dont know what one it would be
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> IHateHavingToReg: by default it will add to the startup and start after install.
[02:00] <benbloom> I did just install a bunch of i386 libs for my webcam. could that have something to do with it?
[02:00] <escott> benbloom, doubtful
[02:01] <Bsims> how good is gaming in a windows vm?
[02:01] <benbloom> escott, how would you decribe the problem? I can't think of the right words.
[02:02] <guest_> hola
[02:02] <escott> benbloom, you might try installing the old version of thunderbird out of /var/apt/cache
[02:02] <guest_> hola alguien habla espa~nol ?
[02:02] <escott> !es | guest_
[02:03] <guest_> escott, thz !
[02:04] <Nowayz> if I chmod 777 -R / then chown myself -R /  will it fix my permission failure
[02:04] <Bsims> Nowayz: what is the error?
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> Nowayz: no,  most of the files are owned by root
[02:04] <Nowayz> I typed chmod 666 -R /
[02:04] <Nowayz> I AM root
[02:05] <color> does anyone know what it means to have a ton of arp requests flooding the network?
[02:05] <Nowayz> uhh arp poisoning
[02:05] <gryphus71> do you know a solution to redirect all my applications by a proxy socks ? (socks-friendly and not)
[02:05] <Bsims> Nowayz: I just came in what are you trying to do
[02:05] <dr_willis> gryphus71:  ive heard of 'transparent proxies' but never set one up
[02:05] <color> Nowayz: do you know of any way I can fix / check this?
[02:06] <escott> Nowayz, no. consider your system compromised. what does ls -l /etc/shadow say?
[02:06] <Nowayz> Bsims: i typed chmod 666 -R / and my whole os got fried, I was GOING to type chmod 666 -R ./
[02:06] <Bsims> ouch
[02:06] <Nowayz> tiny typo though
[02:06] <Bsims> Nowayz: ya now know the diffrence between God and root; God forgives
[02:07] <Nowayz> LOL
[02:07] <Nowayz> Well the small directory was owned by root after some software I installed
[02:07] <Bsims> back the data off and reinstall, ya will never get the default permissions back
[02:07] <Nowayz> and I was changing perms for global access
[02:07] <Nowayz> missed that dot though
[02:07] <BlueProtoman> Anyone here mind helping me out with my hardware acceleration?  I still can't get it working.  Ubuntu 11.04, Intel HD 3000 and nVidia GeForce 520M, both controlled via Optimus.  I've tried this https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/wiki/Troubleshooting and https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/wiki/Upgrading-on-Ubuntu , and after resetting numerous times I still have no luck.
[02:08] <Nowayz> OH BlueProtoman
[02:08] <Nowayz> I actually have the exact same graphics chipset on my ubuntu install
[02:08] <Bsims> Nowayz: could be worse I did this once as root "rm -r * .log"
[02:08] <blognewb> Hey guys can i convert a Mac External hard drive for use in an ubuntu pc?
[02:08] <gryphus71> dr_willis, ok thx ;)
[02:08] <Nowayz> use ironhide
[02:08] <Bsims> Nowayz: notice the problem?
[02:08] <Nowayz> LOL
[02:08] <dr_willis> blognewb:  repartion and reformat it.. and it should work
[02:08] <Nowayz> that's unfortunate
[02:09] <Bsims> Nowayz: I can steer you to a quite good rsync script I wrote
[02:09] <Nowayz> BlueProtoman: uninstall anything you did with bumblebee, add the repo for ironhide, and install ironhide
[02:09] <Nowayz> One that coppies permissions i hope
[02:10] <Nowayz> There we go I got my OS to boot at least
[02:10] <stoneguy> join ubuntu-classroom
[02:10] <BlueProtoman> Nowayz: I don't think Ironhide is supported anymore.
[02:10] <stoneguy> join #ubuntu-classroom
[02:11] <Nowayz> BlueProtoman: Ironhide is a continuation of bumblebee from what I read, i thought it was bumblebee that was no longer being updated
[02:11] <stoneguy> join #ubuntu-classroom-chat
[02:11] <BlueProtoman> Will do.
[02:11] <BlueProtoman> Nowayz: I heard otherwise.
[02:12] <gryphus71> blognewb, do you try a reboot after connect your disk and a format (ext4 or other) ?
[02:12] <blognewb> gryphus71 what was that?
[02:13] <Nowayz> BlueProtoman: either way ironhide works like a charm, and is able to toggle on/off the secondary card whenever its being used or not
[02:13] <Bsims> Nowayz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/825901/
[02:13] <Bsims> it copies all permissions etc, I run it once a week
[02:13] <Nowayz> thank you!
[02:13] <BlueProtoman> Nowayz: Well, that stopped working for me at one point, and I was advised to switch.
[02:13] <Nowayz> I only wish I had ALREADY run this
[02:13] <_John> How do I write random text to a file? I thought it was "cat /dev/random > file" but it's not working
[02:13] <Nowayz> What stopped working?
[02:14] <Bsims> Nowayz: it will even alow for a nearly bare metal restor
[02:14] <gryphus71> blognewb, read doc on ubuntu website about gparted to format your external disk (and erase all)
[02:14] <Ben64> _John: /dev/random is slow, you can use /dev/urandom
[02:14] <dr_willis> _John:  that may get you binary data and non printable characters. not just ascii text.
[02:14] <Bsims> Nowayz: best part, want to restore just one file? plug in the drive cand copy it
[02:14] <Ben64> _John: but /dev/urandom isn't really random
[02:14] <Nowayz> BlueProtoman: did you have the repo installed, because it broke for me and I just ran apt-get upgrade and all was well
[02:14] <escott> _John, also don't cat from those devices they have no EOF
[02:14] <blognewb> gryphus71 thank you
[02:14] <BlueProtoman> Nowayz: Yes, I did have the repo installed.
[02:14] <Bsims> Nowayz: rsync is your friend
[02:14] <_John> escott: I know
[02:14] <dr_willis> _John:  perhaps tell us why you are wantign to do this?
[02:14] <BlueProtoman> For both Ironhide and Bumblebee.
[02:14] <_John> Ben64: Meh, anything that writes crap to it
[02:15] <Nowayz> BlueProtoman: you had BOTH installed at once?
[02:15] <BlueProtoman> Nowayz: Not at once, Bumblebee prompted me to remove Ironhide, so I did.
[02:15] <Vexiant> Yo, does anyone know how to get Tor/Vidalia to pick up Chromium? It picks up Firefox, but even then, it will only work on Firefox if I change my proxy setting and make a system wide change. But still, it works on everything other than Chromium.
[02:15] <BlueProtoman> And things worked fine directly after installing Bumblebee.  It's only the past five days that I've been having trouble.
[02:15] <Vexiant> Note: If I make a system wide change through Chromium :v
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> Vexiant: set the proxy in chromiu manually
[02:16] <dr_willis> Vexiant:  i dont recall needing to do a 'system wide change'  - each browser can have its own proxy setting. there some plugins for each to help manage the settings.
[02:16] <Vexiant> I did put them in manually
[02:16] <dr_willis> I definatly wouldent want a 'system wide change' of my proxy settings...
[02:16] <Nowayz> there is software to proxy anything
[02:17] <_John> In "ls -l", does it tell you the size of the file in bits or bytes
[02:17] <dr_willis> !tor
[02:17] <Vexiant> If I do a system wide change via Chromium, it works on everything. But it still won't on Chromium :P
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> _John: or use:  du -h filename
[02:17] <Vexiant> hmm
[02:17] <_John> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[02:17] <dr_willis> I think the term 'system wide change' is perhaps not being used correctly.. but i have to go to work now. :)
[02:17] <Nowayz> I found it!
[02:17] <Vexiant> let me see
[02:18] <Nowayz> check out proxychains, it is able to proxy any application using sockets
[02:18] <Vexiant> nope, I' mright
[02:18] <Vexiant> it is being used correctly
[02:18]  * Bsims lols and considers writing a wrapper for my bash script in python as it has purty progress bars
[02:18] <Nowayz> Vexiant: proxychains should work
[02:18] <Vexiant> what's a proxychain?
[02:18] <dr_willis> !info proxychain
[02:18] <dr_willis> :_
[02:18] <Nowayz> its software that lets you proxy any application
[02:19] <Vexiant> Ahh, I'll Google it
[02:19] <Vexiant> thanks
[02:19] <Nowayz> for example you would use the command proxychain firefox
[02:19] <Bsims> _John: ls -lh
[02:19] <Nowayz> http://proxychains.sourceforge.net/ i think
[02:19] <dr_willis> Tor works with a proxy anyway ;)  so not sure why you would need to use proxychains  with it.
[02:20] <Nowayz> if he wants to proxy any application using a socks4/5 proxy he would have to...
[02:20] <diverdude> How large is a single entry in a modern RAM block? Is it 1 byte?
[02:20] <Nowayz> you cannot easily proxy ANY program using tor
[02:20] <Nowayz> or at least not that I know of
[02:21] <dr_willis> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-setup-transparent-squid-proxy-server-in-ubuntu.html
[02:21] <dr_willis> using tor for some programs is  not a good idea.
[02:21] <gryphus71> like downloads ..
[02:21] <krazed> Hmm, why are the seperators so ugly in gnome3?
[02:22] <Bsims> krazed: wouldn't know I use gnome just long enough to install synaptic and then kde
[02:22] <Nowayz> WHY use something complicated like squid when proxychain can easily encapsulate the sockets
[02:22] <dr_willis> squid can do it for your whole lan/coporation/whatever
[02:22] <krazed> Bsims, well Unity isn't customizable enough... but KDE eh, hmmmm.
[02:23] <Nowayz> it's a caching proxy though not an actual socks proxy
[02:23] <benbloom> escott, I'm not sure how to install the old version of thunderbird do i use apt? or dpkg?
[02:23] <Nowayz> so if you wanted to get real benefit just use the direct route
[02:23] <Bsims> krazed: try xfce?
[02:23] <dr_willis> !pin | benbloom
[02:24] <dr_willis> benbloom:  if the old version is in the repos yu can 'pin' the old version and use it.
[02:24] <escott> benbloom, you should be able to use either to install the *.deb but I usually would use dpkg
[02:24] <benbloom> k. thanks to you both dr_willis and escott
[02:24] <Nowayz> Yeah penning is a pain, way easier to just google for the package and get it that way
[02:24] <escott> diverdude, google for cpu cache lines
[02:25] <Bsims> benbloom: check /var/cache/apt/archives/ ya may already have the old version
[02:25] <krazed> Bsims, i'm actually gonna try out KDE on 11.10, I'm pretty sure you can but can I put all my taskbar-ish stuff on the bottom of the screen? OCD and Unity don't get along
[02:26] <Bsims> yeah its all on the bottom by default krazed
[02:26] <krazed> I figured as much; thanks.
[02:27] <Ilaria> hi
[02:27] <benbloom> Bsims, escott looks like the version in /var/cache/apt/archives is the current one
[02:27] <benbloom> prob becuase i reinstalled it?
[02:27] <Ilaria> CiAoOoOoO a tutti
[02:31] <Ilaria> modernbob :**************************************
[02:31] <Ilaria> Morpheus :**************************************
[02:32] <modernbob> ah yes
[02:33] <xx4h> :o
[02:33] <Nowayz> whyyyyy does apt-get not have the feature to reset permissions like RHEL and Solaris contain
[02:34] <Bsims> benbloom: possibly
[02:35] <Bsims> http://home.comcast.net/~bmsims1/Desktop-2012-02-01.jpg lol my desktop... as the person I did it for got ate in a netsplit
[02:36] <Bsims> Nowayz: apt-get remove --purge $foo; apt-get install $foo
[02:37] <krazed> KDE is beautiful.... why would anyone choose unity over this?
[02:37] <Nowayz> Bims: yum can reset the entire OS permissions on the files IN PLACE
[02:38] <Bsims> Nowayz: file a bugreport with severity wishlist
[02:38] <Nowayz> Why the heck doesn't ubuntu come installed with aptitude is what I want to know
[02:38] <Bsims> Nowayz: I've wondered that myself, though with synaptic
[02:39] <Nowayz> my os is broken i literally can do almost nothing
[02:39] <Nowayz> I just need to list the names of all my installed packages, and copy my sources
[02:39] <brerrabbit> What all does the installer download when installing?
[02:39] <Nowayz> to make my reinstall easier
[02:39] <Bsims> Nowayz: can I make it a little easier for ya,
[02:40] <Nowayz> That would thrill me, i'm trying to find a way to list packages so I can dump them to a doc
[02:40] <Nowayz> but I need to install aptitude
[02:40] <krazed> Bsims, thanks for the suggestion. I'm pretty satisfied with KDE.
[02:40] <Bsims> Nowayz: dpkg -l |awk '{print $2}'|tail -n+6| wc -l) packages installed" > Installed_Files.txt
[02:41] <Nowayz> that will for sure get EVERYTHING
[02:41] <Nowayz> Bsims: I would hate to have like one package missing and not know what the hell it was lol
[02:42] <urlin2u> Nowayz, dpkg --get-selections > installed-software  will put a text file in home that has all installed.
[02:42] <Bsims> Nowayz: no its this dpkg -l |awk '{print $2}' > Installed_Packages.txt
[02:42] <krazed> Anyone using their iPhone in sync with a ubuntu setup?
[02:42] <Bsims> Nowayz: that will make a list of every package installed on your pc
[02:42] <Bsims> with only program name
[02:44] <Nowayz> I wont be TOO heartbroken in this case since at least my superficial stuff is saved in my home directory
[02:44] <xx4h> gn8
[02:44] <Bsims> Nowayz: alternate way http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-get-list-installed-software-reinstallation-restore.html
[02:44] <urlin2u> Nowayz, this will reinstall it all in a new set up if you have all the repos that were in the original. dpkg --set-selections < installed-software
[02:45] <urlin2u> followed by Code: dselect
[02:45] <j0eyfatone> Hi there
[02:46] <Nowayz> thanks for that tip
[02:46] <j0eyfatone> can someone help me with some code? very simple
[02:46] <Bsims> j0eyfatone: I can take a look at it but I am no programmer
[02:46] <Nowayz> Bsims: I'm used to using RHEL so it's a bit different, but all my repos are in sources.list right?
[02:46] <testbimmel> xx4h: ?
[02:46] <Nowayz> I'm a programmer
[02:46] <Bsims> Nowayz: yes
[02:47] <Bsims> the url I posted has advice for DeadRat
[02:47] <j0eyfatone> this is what i need help with http://pastebin.com/VFLnhCgG
[02:47] <j0eyfatone> that has my code, as well as links to the tutorial i followed
[02:47] <j0eyfatone> pptp :)
[02:49]  * Bsims knows nothing about Iphones sorry
[02:49] <Nowayz> ls -a
[02:49] <Nowayz> oops wrong keyboard
[02:49] <j0eyfatone> thanks anyway Bsims :)
[02:51] <j0eyfatone> i just am puzzled as to why I can connect to my VPN for 0.1 seconds? unsure of what it means
[02:51] <Nowayz> are you just trying to proxy
[02:51] <j0eyfatone> my server is USA based, so yes :P
[02:52] <Nowayz> if your server is running linux you can easily ssh proxy
[02:52] <j0eyfatone> yep, Ubuntu 9.04 64 bit
[02:52] <Nowayz> which is SSL encrypted obviously, and it should get you past any kind of internet filters
[02:52] <j0eyfatone> really?
[02:52] <Nowayz> Check out SSH's -D switch
[02:52] <Ilaria> really?
[02:52] <Nowayz> yes really
[02:53] <DinoMuffin> ssh tunnels are the best thing ever
[02:53] <Nowayz> SSH creates a socks proxy tunnel, and you can use proxychains to proxify any application you want
[02:54] <j0eyfatone> via terminal on my iphone?
[02:54] <j0eyfatone> or the server
[02:54] <Nowayz> all the server has to do is run linux
[02:54] <Nowayz> assuming your ssh is setup with default perms
[02:54] <Nowayz> I didn't realize it was for an iphone though
[02:54] <j0eyfatone> haha ya.
[02:55] <Nowayz> does the application you're trying to prxy support socks ?
[02:55] <jameslordhz> why i can run service mysql status, but cannot run service mysql stop?
[02:55] <jameslordhz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/825926/
[02:56] <j0eyfatone> i'm unsure. i was hoping to get the VPN working, because i am able to connect to a free VPN (hotspotshield)
[02:56] <j0eyfatone> but I can't connect to my own
[02:56] <Guest31072> hello
[02:56] <Nowayz> yeah since you're on a phone it would be a pain to try to get socks working most likely, unless you're a developer
[02:56] <j0eyfatone> not in the least
[02:57] <Nowayz> you would have to compile proxychains yourself
[02:57] <Nowayz> on your phone
[02:57] <Nowayz> lol
[02:58] <j0eyfatone> so is the VPN out of the picture or the socks, i'm unsure
[02:58] <Nowayz> socks is pretty much out of the picture unless you can find an app that uses socks to act as a proxy for the phone
[02:59] <j0eyfatone> alright. so is there any reason pptp gives me "Connection terminated." after a "connection of 0.1 minutes"
[02:59] <etyrnal> what do i need to do to get an ATI Radeon 7500 running GREAT under Ubunu 11.04 ?
[03:00] <Nowayz> That's the thing, I have not used VPN on anything but windows, so it would be impossible for me to help you debug yours
[03:00] <Nowayz> Without learning everything from scratch...
[03:00] <j0eyfatone> i'm attempting to pinpoint if the problem is with my VPS or my router. hopefully i'll figure out the config for both soon
[03:01] <Nowayz> your router most likely isn't the problem unless you mean a router in front of your VPS
[03:01] <Nowayz> if you have an option to install windows instead of linux I would do that on your server
[03:01] <Nowayz> It's much easier to install a VNC in windows with the wizard if you ask me
[03:02] <j0eyfatone> no, i mean home (linksys running custom dd-wrt firmware). the server is a VPS in california :)
[03:04] <j0eyfatone> i guess i'll ask the dd-wrt irc.
[03:04] <j0eyfatone> thanks for your time Nowayz, it is greatly appreciated
[03:05] <Nowayz> If he had just googled a socks proxy iphone app he could have just used that
[03:05] <urlin2u> etyrnal, take a look at this wiki, that is about the limit I have in this area. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[03:06] <tfittsy> does anyone here use a web control panel with ubuntu and would recommend it?
[03:06] <Nowayz> Web control panel for what?
[03:07] <Nowayz> You're talking about the server?
[03:08] <Nowayz> tfittsy: Server or Desktop??
[03:08] <tfittsy> server
[03:08] <tfittsy> 10.04
[03:08] <Nowayz> For a free CP I normally use CentOS because you can use kloxo which has basically everything you could ever want on web CP, all fully configurable
[03:08] <Nowayz> I don't know if anything similar exists for Ubuntu
[03:08] <Nowayz> I you are confident you can operate well using CentOS which is RHEL, then that would be my suggestion
[03:09] <Nowayz> it's noobie friendly
[03:09] <tfittsy> I've been using centos but I'm getting tired of it being outdated
[03:09] <Nowayz> did you UPDATE it?
[03:09] <Nowayz> there is a new version
[03:09] <tfittsy> it's on a hosted dedicated server so I can't just nuke it and start over
[03:09] <urlin2u> Nowayz, centos still using gnome 2?
[03:10] <Nowayz> CentOS 6.2 is extremely new
[03:10] <Nowayz> as of Dec, 2011 lol
[03:10] <Nowayz> yeah centos x stuff is really old
[03:10] <Nowayz> but that's not what the focus is really
[03:11] <GTRsdk> Hello. What should be used for changing audio volume (like the earphones or master volume)?
[03:11] <Nowayz> uhh the mixer
[03:11] <tfittsy> how old is 5.7?
[03:11] <urlin2u> Nowayz, I had it installed for awhile seemed quite usable. :D
[03:11] <Nowayz> 5.7 is actually pretty ancient
[03:12] <Nowayz> Yeah urlin2u, I actually had it on a really old laptop with very good success
[03:13] <Singularityphd> Greetings
[03:14] <hydrox24> Singularityphd: indeed, good sir.
[03:14] <Nowayz> tfittsy: Centos 5.7 is running on the old RHEL kernel, but if you get 6.2 it's running the latest redhat has to offer
[03:15] <Nowayz> tfittsy: If you don't like the packages the CentOS repos restrict you to (which are all verified to be safe and compat.)  you can just use the epel repo or anything similar
[03:16] <Singularityphd> Does any one have updates on the new ubuntu concept designs?
[03:16] <Singularityphd> @hydrox24 whats up?
[03:16] <interlude> Would anyone know how I could setup an access control list for SSH connections to my system?
[03:17] <Nowayz> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/openssh-deny-or-restrict-access-to-users-and-groups.html
[03:17] <hydrox24> interlude: do you want to be able to control which MAC addresses are permitted to connect via ssh?
[03:17] <Nowayz> I assumed he meant users
[03:17] <Nowayz> That link should explain it
[03:18] <DinoMuffin> AllowUsers <users here> in your sshd_conf
[03:18] <Nowayz> yep, same thing with groups, and DenyUsers DenyGroups etc for revoking access
[03:19] <interlude> hydrox24: It's not necessary but might me useful
[03:19] <interlude> if it's not too complex to setup
[03:19] <mijk> hey, how can I make a USB stick formatted with FAT32 bootable using MacOS? I used unetbootin to try to make a bootable USB stick but it doesn't boot on the PC
[03:19] <DinoMuffin> mac address filtering?
[03:20] <xangua> mijk: did you follow the instructions on ubuntu.com ¿
[03:20] <DinoMuffin> It's pretty much a waste of time
[03:20] <Nowayz> couldn't you just use iptables and check the port
[03:20] <Nowayz> if wrong mac+port drop connection
[03:20] <bb05> this the general channel to ask questions about failed repo installs?
[03:20] <Nowayz> idk if ssh lets you filter by default or not, never tried
[03:20] <Nowayz> bb05: you can ask about pretty much anything
[03:20] <DinoMuffin> oh, filtering mac through ssh?
[03:20] <DinoMuffin> I tought he meant on his router
[03:21] <kanti> Hey, I have trouble getting a torrent to dl
[03:21] <DinoMuffin> Why would you need to do that?
[03:21] <bb05> can we link paste2 ?
[03:21] <Nowayz> sure
[03:21] <flowerpot> If I remove the 'quiet' argument from the kernel entry in the grub menu entry that I use to boot Ubuntu, I see lots of text flow past as Ubuntu boots.  Those lines that look like [     40.23423 ] blah blah blah blah -- are they output from Grub, from the Linux kernel, or something else?
[03:21] <kanti> When I try to dl it with transmission it says "Couldn"t add corrupt torrent". I dled the torrent yesterday though on a friends computer, and am dling other torrents today.
[03:22] <DinoMuffin> flowerpot: that would be your dmesg
[03:22] <kanti> So Im not sure what the problem is (though I know the torrent should work)
[03:22] <flowerpot> DinoMuffin, so it's the kernel?
[03:22] <Nowayz> The torrent is probably corrupt
[03:22] <DinoMuffin> yes
[03:22] <bb05> http://paste2.org/p/1891425 linux kernel update fails.
[03:22] <Nowayz> kanti:I suggest using Deluge anway
[03:22] <flowerpot> DinoMuffin, could anything else write to dmesg?
[03:22] <kanti> Nowayz: I dled the same torrent on two diffs computers yestarday though
[03:22] <kanti> *yesterday
[03:23] <DinoMuffin> flowerpot: like what?
[03:23] <flowerpot> DinoMuffin, I dunno.  I don't even know what the # on the left means, so I'm pretty clueless when it comes to dmesg.
[03:23] <DinoMuffin> flowerpot: dmesg is reserved for the kernel message buffer
[03:23] <Nowayz> kanti: Try using installing Deluge it's a far better client with pretty much unparalled features
[03:23] <kanti> links to it?
[03:23] <kanti> im kinda new to linux
[03:23] <kanti> and when i went to their site there were like 6 diff dls
[03:23] <flowerpot> I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu server on my box.  I get the flood of boot messages after GRUB loads the kernel and boots it, but then the screen goes black....trying to troubleshoot it
[03:24] <Nowayz> sudo apt-get install deluge
[03:24] <flowerpot> it's a default install, so I can't imagine what the problem is :(
[03:24] <hashln> hello
[03:24] <hashln> id like to run fdisk on my usb drive, but ubuntu is saying i cant because it is a directory
[03:24] <DinoMuffin> flowerpot: hmm
[03:24] <hashln> what am i doing wrong
[03:24] <kanti> nowayz
[03:25] <lol> Hello
[03:25] <kanti> it says 404 on a lot of em when trying to dl it
[03:25] <flowerpot> DinoMuffin, is dmesg output always recorded to a file in the filesystem that i can view later on?
[03:25] <DinoMuffin> flowerpot: what version of ubuntu server are you trying to install?
[03:25] <kanti> When I run it in the terminal
[03:25] <flowerpot> 10.04
[03:25] <flowerpot> i386
[03:25] <Nowayz> run sudo apt-get install deluge in the terminal
[03:25] <DinoMuffin> flowerpot: it is if it's installed to the harddrive
[03:26] <Nowayz> it should be part of ubuntus official repo
[03:26] <lol> Im having a very very weird network issue i've done a lot fo poking around and can't find any solution, I am no noob to linux, actually I have used gentoo for a while
[03:26] <lol> http://askubuntu.com/questions/100095/wired-networking-issues
[03:26] <DinoMuffin> flowerpot: looks like it's a known issue with 10.04 server though
[03:27] <lol> Only two months ago 11.10 was working fine on this exact machine, the problem it has only started with this install
[03:27] <DinoMuffin> flowerpot: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/
[03:27] <lol> anyone have any clue?
[03:27] <flowerpot> Ubuntu 10.04 i386 on a Dell Precision 360.  GRUB boots, and it seems to load the kernel / ramdisk OK, but the screen goes black after the dmesg flood.. .. just now modified the kernel entry in itthe grub menu to remove 'quiet' and include 'initcall_debug' and 'boot_delay=500' to see if I can see where it dies.
[03:28] <DinoMuffin> flowerpot: try the solutions in that link
[03:28] <lori> i need help with  something
[03:28] <hashln> how do I run fdisk on my usb stick with ubuntu
[03:28] <hashln> i tried but it is saying that it is a directory
[03:28] <Guest87174> i bought a digital camera/webcam and got the disk installed
[03:29] <Guest87174> my problem is that when i plug the camera into the usb port it says cannnot find
[03:29] <Guest87174> do i need to open something to access the usb port
[03:30] <Guest87174> and do i plug it into the front or back of my computer
[03:30] <lol> Guest87174: try running gstreamer-properties and go to the input tab
[03:30] <lol> Vide tab
[03:30] <lol> Video*
[03:30] <lol> Under video go to device input and hit test
[03:30] <Guest87174> okay i try it old on be right back
[03:31] <lol> SO does anyone have any idea what's up with my network
[03:32] <lol> If I can't find help in the next couple days, I won't let ubuntu waste hdd space anymore and wipe
[03:32] <hashln> u try another distro yet
[03:33] <lol> hash1n: me?
[03:33] <Guest87174> hey lol
[03:33] <hashln> yes lol
[03:33] <Guest87174> where do i find gstreamers
[03:33] <lol> hash1n: im an ex gentoo user, used suse for a few months
[03:34] <lol> Guest87174: yes?
[03:34] <Guest87174> where would i find the gstreamers at
[03:34] <lol> press alt+f2
[03:34] <lol> and type in gstreamer-properties
[03:34] <lol> if you can't find it
[03:35] <Guest87174> okay LOL my computer says no file on record
[03:36] <Nowayz> "im ugly and poor and have no friends, and the answer is to install ubuntu?"
[03:36] <lol> alright
[03:36] <lol> if gstreamer-properties isn't their try to open the software centre and install it
[03:37] <Guest87174> okay i try it be right back
[03:37] <RiXtEr-home> hey guys, been using a pptp vpn with no issues, but I would like it if all my traffic didn't get routed though the vpn, I am having a bit of trouble figuring it out.
[03:37] <davez0r> redirect question: $ foo < blah.txt will input the contents of blah.txt to foo. How can I input a char of string of chars to foo?
[03:37] <xangua> lol just run "gstreamer-properties"
[03:37] <lol> I know, im telling someone else to run
[03:37] <lol> they say its not on their system
[03:37] <DinoMuffin> davez0r: try "echo "string here" > foo
[03:38] <davez0r> oh, so echo must be used?
[03:38] <davez0r> hmmm
[03:38] <Nowayz> perl or bash?
[03:38] <davez0r> bash
[03:38] <dlentz> apy-get install gnome-media
[03:38] <dlentz> *apt
[03:38] <Nowayz> i dunno then, not done much bas
[03:38] <Nowayz> I do everything the long way in py/pl normally haha
[03:38] <lol> alright.. can someone help me with my issue please?
[03:38] <davez0r> nice
[03:39] <davez0r> thanks
[03:39] <lol> I've used so many distros on this machine including ubuntu 11.10, they all worked fine (except gentoo :P) but now on this new 11.10 install i have this weird networking issue
[03:39] <lol> Can someone help me with this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/100095/wired-networking-issues
[03:40] <lol> *sigh*
[03:40] <quiescens> DinoMuffin, davez0r: not a good idea that will create or potentially overwrite a file called foo, instead you can use: echo "string" | foo
[03:41] <lol> Well now I have to choose between fedora and arch
[03:41] <lol> >.<
[03:41] <quiescens> flip a coin
[03:41] <DinoMuffin> quiescens: good catch. you're right
[03:42] <DinoMuffin> i still mix those two up every now and then
[03:42] <Nowayz> Fedora!
[03:42] <daniel_> I'm having some usb issues on 11.04
[03:42] <lol> Well either way good bye ubuntu
[03:42] <ome> What is the defualt web server that comes with windows ?
[03:42] <ome> s/windows/ubuntu
[03:42] <lol> Windows doesn't have one
[03:42] <lol> Microsoft offers IIS
[03:42] <ome> and why I can't find any config for it ?
[03:43] <iceroot> ome: there is not webserver by default
[03:43] <Nowayz> doesn't have what?
[03:43] <lol> a webserver
[03:43] <ome> iceroot: /var/www is for ?
[03:43] <Nowayz> What does that have to do with the wired network issues
[03:43] <iceroot> ome: the webserver you will install
[03:43] <Nowayz> ohh rofl
[03:43] <iceroot> ome: but there is no webserver installed by default
[03:43] <Nowayz> IIS is a pretty good webserver :\
[03:44] <iceroot> ome: but the most common webserver on linux/unix and the rest of the world is apache2
[03:44] <iceroot> Nowayz: and offtopic here
[03:44] <Nowayz> iceroot: lightpd
[03:44] <ome> iceroot: makes sense.
[03:44] <ome> I just looked into the apache2 config, and there is the defualt thing.
[03:45] <iceroot> ome: sudo apt-get install apache2 if you want the apache2 webserver
[03:45] <Nowayz> lightpd can handle a far larger load then apache, it's easy to setup, and it faster
[03:45] <Nowayz> and it supports nearly all of the same features, minus an identicle mod api obviously
[03:46] <jeffrey_> hi
[03:46] <JackAnansi> Hey, I'm trying to run some python code via double-click. I added the #! command to the start of the file, chmod'd it to be executable, and it doesn't work. It brings up the "Execute" / "Execute in Terminal" window, but both options do nothing.
[03:46] <daniel_> I'm having trouble getting Ubuntu to properly recognize things I connect via usb
[03:46] <lol> is it #!/bin/python ?
[03:47] <jeffrey_> i trying to install java 7 on my ubuntu 11.10
[03:47] <Nowayz> #!/usr/bin/env python
[03:47] <JackAnansi> it's #!/usr/bin/env/ python3
[03:47] <Nowayz> that's what the shabang should be
[03:47] <iceroot> lol: /usr/bin/python
[03:47] <lol> whoops forgot /usr
[03:48] <hydrox24> jeffrey_: what is going wrong?
[03:48] <Nowayz> #!/usr/bin/env python should use the default python install
[03:48] <lol> Well both fedora and arch are download quite fast
[03:48] <urlin2u> daniel_, like?
[03:48] <jeffrey_> it not showing java 7 version it just showing i still have java 6.22 version
[03:48] <hydrox24> jeffrey_: how did you try to update java?
[03:48] <JackAnansi> Nowayz: I coded it in python3, but 2.7 is the default on the machine
[03:48] <KC-45> is there anyway i can make my screen brighter?
[03:48] <Guest87174> LOL do i have to reboot my computer after i install software
[03:48] <KC-45> when i run windows...its alot brighter
[03:49] <KC-45> now im on ubuntu...its kinda dark
[03:49] <lol> No
[03:49] <JackAnansi> but even with the #! line, it's not executing\
[03:49] <iceroot> Guest87174: no
[03:49] <Nowayz> oh then you do need to set it manually to your python3
[03:49] <jeffrey_> thou sofware store center
[03:49] <Guest87174> ok im gonna try to run gstreamers as soon as it installs
[03:49] <daniel_> @urlin2u, Like my sansa fuze will only have the sd card slot detected and I can't safely eject it. Also my Droid X will not detect either. Whenever this problem occurs my computer freezes on shutdown as well
[03:49] <urlin2u> Guest87174, only if your told to.
[03:49] <iceroot> Guest87174: there are only 3 programs which needs a reboot so the newer version will be used complety, dbus, libc and the linux-kernel
[03:50] <Nowayz> whereis python3 should help if you're not sure
[03:50] <davez0r> hey noobs, there's a cooler way than echo
[03:50] <Guest87174> ok ty im not very good with these things
[03:50] <JackAnansi> python3 is in the same place python is
[03:50] <Guest87174> im new at this stuff
[03:50] <hydrox24> KC-45: just change the theme
[03:50] <iceroot> Guest87174: no problem, you are welcome, feel free to ask your questions here
[03:50] <davez0r> ./blah <<< input
[03:50] <Guest87174> ok ty iceroot
[03:51] <urlin2u> daniel_, the sanza is a firmware problem, check the web I had one, the rest never used a droid. What release are you running?
[03:51] <Nowayz> KC-45: get a brighter monitor?
[03:51] <jeffrey_> so can you help me to get java 7 to install on my ubntu 11.10
[03:51] <hydrox24> jeffrey_: use this command to choose the default java for the system to use
[03:51] <hydrox24> jeffrey_: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[03:51] <iceroot> jeffrey_: oracle or openjdk?
[03:51] <daniel_> @urlin2u, It's not the fuze because both devices illicit the error.
[03:51] <hydrox24> jeffrey_: also, please be patient and don't ask a question twice in a short period of time
[03:52] <jeffrey_> ok
[03:52] <Guest87174> i be back in few minutes
[03:52] <hydrox24> Guest87174: OK
[03:52] <KC-45> lol
[03:52] <KC-45> ok
[03:52] <KC-45> ill try changing themes
[03:53] <urlin2u> daniel_, the sanza has problems on its own is what I meant.
[03:53] <hydrox24> KC-45: are you using the default ubuntu 11.10 install (you haven't made modifications?)
[03:53] <KC-45> modifications?
[03:53] <KC-45> ive installed a few programs...if that counts
[03:54] <urlin2u> daniel_, of being read nothing on shutdowns that I saw.
[03:54] <KC-45> and ummm...ive changed the background image to one of the given ones
[03:54] <KC-45> thats about it
[03:54] <jeffrey_> ok nothern is happning
[03:54] <Guest87174> ok how do i find input tab
[03:54] <Nowayz> KC-45: I suggest downloading MORE themes becaue the default ones are really crap looking
[03:55] <KC-45> okie dokie
[03:55] <daniel_> @urlin2u, I'm using Rockbox on the fuze. There isn't anything wrong with it because I've already done a fresh format and reinstall of Rockbox
[03:55] <KC-45> and i get those?...in the software center?
[03:55] <Nowayz> softlooks or something like that is pretty slick looking
[03:55] <KC-45> or u meant...googling some?
[03:55] <Nowayz> you have to google them I think
[03:55] <Guest87174> hey iceroot
[03:56] <Nowayz> Just download them, and they should open with the software center
[03:56] <Nowayz> They will then pop up in the themes list
[03:56] <KC-45> ok
[03:56] <jeffrey_> ok can i make java 7 open up in software center
[03:57] <Nowayz> best place to get java is
[03:57] <Nowayz> java.com
[03:57] <JackAnansi> could the file not opening be because of LXTerminal? Can it not open files from the file manager?
[03:57] <TheYsNoi> let's have a lunch now...
[03:57] <researcher123> On Ubuntu 11.10 ,64 bit I had good speed until last week.Suddenly slowed down.What can be done
[03:57] <irvie> hey, what's the best way to set up an smtp server on 10.04 for use by my drupal 7 install/php.ini on the same box? i want to close off any relaying from elsewhere
[03:57] <urlin2u> daniel_, cool the best thing here to get help is just giving details of what the problem is including the app or device, that was all I was phishing for, rather then "I'm having some usb issues on 11.04"
[03:58] <jeffrey_> i need help to install it on my unbuntu 11.10 java 7 after i download it from java.com
[03:58] <Nowayz> open the terminal
[03:58] <jeffrey_> ok
[03:58] <daniel_> @urlin2u, I was just trying to get a response before overwelming posts with information
[03:58] <Nowayz> browser to the directory
[03:58] <jeffrey_> what next
[03:58] <Nowayz> chmod +x java*
[03:59] <Nowayz> or Java* i forget
[03:59] <daniel_> @urlin2u, I've just found that lsusb will freeze up when run after trying to plug the device in and failing
[03:59] <Nowayz> or whatever the filename is obviously
[03:59] <urlin2u> daniel_, cool, a little hint helps been here awhile so just a heads up.
[04:02] <daniel_> @urlin2u, lsusb -v freezes without displaying any information at all and fdisk -l doesn't display any usb devices
[04:05] <Guest87174> can someone tell me how to check if usb port is working
[04:06] <flowerpot> DinoMuffin, adding the option 'nomodeset' fixed it.
[04:06] <flowerpot> thanks!
[04:06] <DinoMuffin> cool :)
[04:06] <DinoMuffin> np
[04:07] <Guest87174> i need some help
[04:08] <Guest87174> my usb ports are not working
[04:08] <Guest87174> then agian i have no idea what i am doing
[04:09] <daniel_> Well it looks like someone else might have the same trouble as me
[04:09] <Oregon> Guest87174: Did you ever have usb working with ubuntu?
[04:09] <daniel_> I'll be back
[04:09] <Guest87174> i just got this computer
[04:09] <Guest87174> i have no idea
[04:09] <biffbaxter> Did you look at lsusb?
[04:09] <Oregon> Guest87174: did you make sure to check more than one device? and all the usb ports?
[04:10] <Oregon> yea goto teh terminal and type lsusb and see what it says
[04:10] <Guest87174> OREGON how do you do that?
[04:10] <Oregon> (you can goto the terminal by typing alt + f2) and type gnome-terminal
[04:10] <Oregon> or you can find the terminal in your menu
[04:11] <Oregon> then type: lsusb
[04:11] <Oregon> and see if any devices come up
[04:11] <Guest87174> ok itry it i be rite back
[04:11] <Oregon> it should list the devices attached via usb
[04:11] <Oregon> i'll brb too
[04:12] <urlin2u> Oregon, PDX. :D
[04:12] <bb05> what would cause linux kernel update to fail? here's my log http://paste2.org/p/1891425
[04:12] <Olte> hello , i will ask again , anyone know how to help me with my microphone ?
[04:12] <Olte> sound works well but microphone no :(
[04:12] <bb05> i installed the e1000e network driver as its a bug in the latest ubuntu (no network support)
[04:13] <Guest87174> is the terminalcalled terminal server client by chance?
[04:13] <danub> hey all. got a question about my power management settings. if i leave my server inactive for x amount of time, i can't ssh into the system unless i log into the console. why is that and where do i change it to never turn off the network?>
[04:13] <Blackadder> Hi can anyone tell me what is the best way to manage IP tables on Ubuntu server. I tried Bastille but it does not address IP filterning
[04:13] <Oregon> urlin2u: Whats PDX? portland airport?
[04:14] <urlin2u> Oregon, yeah, justa refrence I live in oregon.
[04:14] <Oregon> Blackadder: I've just used the terminal directly to manage ip tables...that and I love firestarter which manages ip tables (firewall)
[04:14] <biffbaxter> Firestarter is a nice easy option
[04:14] <Oregon> urlin2u: cool I live in Eugene, but if you wanna talk about it we should talk in ubuntu-offtopic
[04:14] <chaos_zero> hello, i have been trying to set up a bind9 nameserver to host a website. I have bind9 configured on the server. the domain name provides is asking for a web address of the name server...i cant put the IP of the server i have, it has to be a regular web address..what do i put?
[04:14] <biffbaxter> I'm flying hone to odx
[04:14] <Oregon> its good to learn how ip tables work as well, and use the terminal
[04:14] <Guest87174> OREGON i typed in what you told me with the alt f2 it tells me not found and something child process
[04:15] <Blackadder> so u are appending direct from terminal
[04:15] <biffbaxter> Pdx tomorrow
[04:15] <urlin2u> Oregon, don't need to just chuckled when I saw your nic.
[04:15] <Guest87174> i dont understand what am i doing wrong
[04:15] <Oregon> Guest87174: you are using ubuntu right?
[04:15] <Blackadder> what is firestarter is that in Ubuntu repository
[04:15] <Blackadder> ?
[04:15] <Oregon> yes it is
[04:15] <Oregon> its in the repositorie
[04:15] <Oregon> its a firewall (sortof) more like a tool to manage you're ip tables
[04:15] <Guest87174> all i know is it runs on chrome
[04:16] <Blackadder> I just need to stop static IP's trying to connect to my server thats all I need it for
[04:16] <Oregon> Guest87174:  When you move you're mouse to the left do you see a menu???
[04:16] <daniel_> I'm still having the trouble with my usb drive. It wont' recognize my devices and lsusb freezes. Fdisk doesn't display the drive as being there. I can't safely  remove the drive and it causes Ubuntu to freeze on shutdown
[04:16] <Guest87174> guess it ubuntu OREGON my server runs on chrome
[04:16] <Oregon> Guest87174: what lead you to the ubuntu room?
[04:16] <biffbaxter> Chrome....ahhh
[04:16] <Blackadder> does firestarter work from terminal I do not have a graphic interface purely command line geek
[04:16] <Oregon> Guest87174: I thought chrome is a web browser...ubuntu is an operating system
[04:17] <Oregon> is chrome an OS?
[04:17] <Oregon> as well?
[04:17] <Guest87174> my friend told me that you all are computer wizards and could help me
[04:17] <bobo37773> Blackadder: Then just use iptables
[04:17] <biffbaxter> Firestarter GUI...
[04:17] <Guest87174> OREGON what is OS
[04:17] <Oregon> oh their is chromium OS
[04:17] <biffbaxter> Chrome googleOS for laptop likely
[04:18] <Oregon> operating system....its what controls you're computer....(software wise)...windows 7 is an operating system
[04:18] <biffbaxter> Linux based but ni
[04:18] <Oregon> Ubuntu is an operating system
[04:18] <biffbaxter> No term likely
[04:18] <Olte> there is any way to reset all drivers on ubuntu ?
[04:18] <Oregon> In order to help you, we have to know what OS you are running
[04:18] <Blackadder> do u know the command line to filter certain IP's I have allowed SSH & port 80www & dropped the rest
[04:18] <Guest87174> Oregon it linux and i have desktop
[04:19] <Oregon> Guest87174: okay...well you need to find the terminal for me...
[04:19] <dreakuld> hellllllllllllllooo everyone
[04:19] <biffbaxter> Desktop no chrome os...ha
[04:19] <Oregon> Guest87174: their should be a menu and you should see the terminal
[04:19] <urlin2u> Olte, not that I know of, but if you outline your trouble somebody may help. :D
[04:19] <Blackadder> save me time going  through the tutorila
[04:19] <Blackadder> tutorial
[04:19] <biffbaxter> Got to get to terminal
[04:19] <Guest87174> okay ORegon i will check hold on
[04:20] <Olte> urlin2u: i asked 5 times today and no one answered , my microphone not works
[04:20] <Olte> it was working before but i changed something in synaptic package manager and it stopped work
[04:21] <urlin2u> Olte, synaptic has a history.
[04:21] <biffbaxter> Version?
[04:21] <Olte> where i can check history ?
[04:21] <urlin2u> Olte, hold on I will oipen mine.
[04:21] <urlin2u> open
[04:21] <Olte> ok thanks
[04:22] <Guest87174> OREGON i have a list that say accessories,preferences,internet,system tools,programming,etc.  I see no terminal listed
[04:22] <dreakuld> anyone know how to get minecraft working on ubuntu netbook edition 10.04 ????????
[04:22] <Oregon> Guest87174: its usually under accessories
[04:22] <Guest87174> ok brb
[04:22] <biffbaxter> Look in access
[04:22] <dreakuld> anyone know how to get minecraft working on ubuntu netbook edition 10.04 ????????
[04:22] <urlin2u> Olte, file-history  top panel left
[04:22] <dreakuld> anyone know how to get minecraft working on ubuntu netbook edition 10.04 ????????
[04:22] <DinoMuffin> dreakuld: chances are high that it won't run well at all
[04:22] <dreakuld> :P
[04:23] <biffbaxter> Minecraft gotta run Java native not openjava
[04:23] <Guest87174> OREgoN IT SAY LXterminal
[04:23] <dreakuld> DinoMuffin: but its JAVA
[04:23] <Guest87174> now what do i do
[04:23] <dreakuld> i use sun java
[04:23] <DinoMuffin> dreakuld: I know, and that's part of the problem
[04:23] <DinoMuffin> dreakuld: it's still going to run horrible
[04:23] <dreakuld> DinoMuffin: i installed JRE
[04:23] <biffbaxter> Netbook not likely I've run it barely
[04:23] <Oregon> Guest87174 type: lsusb
[04:24] <Guest87174> ok brb
[04:24] <dr_willis> it may need a specific version of java - check the moinecraft homepage
[04:24] <DinoMuffin> I'm on a laptop with an i5 and intelGMA
[04:24] <DinoMuffin> it' runs horrible
[04:24] <Oregon> Guest87174: that should list all attached usb devices
[04:24] <DinoMuffin> a netbook won't stand a chance
[04:24] <biffbaxter> It will
[04:24] <biffbaxter> Likely poulsbo chipset
[04:25] <Olte> Commit Log for Wed Feb  1 13:30:34 2012
[04:25] <Olte> Zainstalowano następujące pakiety:
[04:25] <Olte> linux-alsa-driver-modules-3.0.0-14-generic
[04:25] <DinoMuffin> dreakuld: if you really want to try it, envoke it with: java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
[04:26] <DinoMuffin> adjust the memory parameters as needed
[04:26] <dreakuld_> DinoMuffin: my friends playing minecraft on ubuntu
[04:26] <urlin2u> Olte, generally use pastebin, all I can say from that is alsa is part of the sound, not an area I'm real sure in really
[04:26] <biffbaxter> Olte....
[04:26] <DinoMuffin> dreakuld: the OS isn't the issue, it's the hardware
[04:26] <dreakuld_> DinoMuffin: why
[04:27] <dreakuld_> DinoMuffin: i got intel hardware
[04:27] <biffbaxter> Open term
[04:27] <DinoMuffin> dreakuld: minecraft is not an efficent game
[04:27] <DinoMuffin> at all
[04:27] <Guest87174> Oreegon it gives me Bus 002 device 015 linux device,  BUS 002 device 001 id number linux foundation 1.1 root hub
[04:27] <dreakuld_> DinoMuffin: i dont get what u say
[04:27] <Oregon> Guest87174: What devices do you have attached that arent working?
[04:28] <Guest87174> OREGON there is one more listed same way too
[04:28] <biffbaxter> Olte open term type alsamixer
[04:28] <Guest87174> its a digital camera
[04:28] <biffbaxter> Make sure its not muted
[04:28] <dreakuld_> tests floodbot1
[04:28] <dreakuld_> tests floodbot1
[04:28] <dreakuld_> tests floodbot1tests floodbot1
[04:28] <dreakuld_> tests floodbot1
[04:28] <FloodBot1> dreakuld_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:28] <Guest87174> OREGON when i hook up the camera and try to use it the computer tells me it cnat be found, camera not plugged in
[04:28] <Oregon> Guest87174: Do you have any other devices that use usb? I would try attaching them. In linux now days most devices should jsut work, you rarely have to download drivers...(if they even exist)
[04:29] <biffbaxter> The alsamixer term program will show sound and mic
[04:29] <Olte> i did it 1000 times today , and nothing :/
[04:29] <Oregon> Guest87174: that model might not work with linux...try looking it up on google...search the model number and then ubuntu
[04:29] <Guest87174> OREGON this is the only thing i have for a usb device
[04:29] <Olte> can you give me command to upload  alsamixer  on pastebin ?
[04:29] <biffbaxter> Nothing meaning it does not open?
[04:29] <Oregon> Guest87174: You need to see if that model works with linux
[04:30] <Guest87174> OKAY OREGEON I BE BACK IF NO LUCK
[04:30] <Oregon> Guest87174: it looks like to me that you're usb is probably workng just fine...
[04:30] <Oregon> Guest87174: make sure teh camera is on!
[04:30] <Oregon> Guest87174: the camera has to be on when connected via usb
[04:30] <Guest87174> OREGON OKAY ICHECK EVRYTHING ONE MORE TIME
[04:30] <biffbaxter> Oregon looks like he is running lxde
[04:31] <biffbaxter> Based on lxterm
[04:31] <Oregon> Guest87174: also if you goto "Computer" you should see the camera there
[04:31] <Oregon> Guest87174: to see "Computer" on my system I goto the menu and goto Places....Computer
[04:31] <biffbaxter> So he's probably running pcmanfm...
[04:31] <evildaemon> Quit question, what are all the packages required for wireless? I fear I may have missed one.
[04:31] <evildaemon> *Quick
[04:31] <Oregon> biffbaxter: Thanks I thought he wasnt running ubuntu
[04:31] <urlin2u> dreakuld_, see that's what you get lol.
[04:31] <Oregon> since he said lxterminal
[04:32] <Guest87174> OKAY I LOOK HOLD ON IM SLOW AT THIS STUFF
[04:32] <Oregon> brb
[04:32] <urlin2u> Guest87174, your caplock stuck?
[04:32] <biffbaxter> Also the cam might say that it needs to be in mass storage mode when connected
[04:32] <evildaemon> urlin2u: My ears hurt ):
[04:32] <gokul> is there a utility to flash usb drives in from Linux
[04:32] <chaos_zero> anyone self hosted a website before with ubuntu? a newb needs help if anyone has time...
[04:32] <evildaemon> gokul: Yes.
[04:32] <urlin2u> evildaemon, I had to turn down my hearing aid. :D
[04:33] <Blackadder> iptables is a lot of hardwork from terminal any ideas of programs to append to iptables from terminal?
[04:33] <dr_willis> gokul:  flash in what way?
[04:33] <biffbaxter> Lubuntu runs lxde so close
[04:33] <evildaemon> biffbaxter: What are you trying to do?
[04:34] <gokul> evildaemon, dr_willis i need to fix the fake usb i got. So need to change the firmware i guss
[04:34] <biffbaxter> Nothing helping some new folks sounds like he's running lxde so likely Ubuntu
[04:34] <Blackadder> I am trying to block certain IP addresses to try connecting to my server
[04:34] <biffbaxter> Lubuntu
[04:34] <Oregon> Blackadder:; firestarter would be the perfect toool...
[04:34] <biffbaxter> I'm good :-)
[04:35] <Oregon> Blackadder: unless you want to block a large list of ip numbers
[04:35] <Blackadder> does firestarter require a graphic interface or could it be run directly from terminal
[04:35] <evildaemon> Oregon: Firestarter == No longer maintained.
[04:35] <Oregon> Blackadder: most people like Moblock for blocking large lists of ip numbers
[04:35] <Oregon> Blackadder: firestarer is GUI
[04:36] <Blackadder> no Gui
[04:36] <evildaemon> Blackadder: Honestly, learn a little IPtables if you have time, it's good for you.
[04:36] <Oregon> Blackadder: try http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-block-ipaddress-with-iptables-firewall.html
[04:36] <Oregon> Blackadder: That link shows you how to block IP
[04:36] <Oregon> Blackadder: from the terminal using ip tables
[04:36] <Blackadder> I know the bascis in IPtables as to append SSH & port 80
[04:37] <Oregon> Blackadder: I know IP tables are a little scary, but try and read everything you can on them
[04:37] <Blackadder> but I cant find the section on how to target certain IP addreses
[04:37] <Nach0z> hey guys got a question for yall... why in the heck are nouveau drivers IMPOSSIBLE to remove from ubuntu?
[04:37] <Oregon> Blackadder: I search when I have problems with IP tables and usually find the help I need
[04:37] <Blackadder> Its not scary
[04:37] <Nach0z> I mean really, I've got an AMD card. not even Nvidia. and nouveau is automagically installed here and I CANNOT remove it
[04:38] <dr_willis> Nach0z:  i just blacklist them.
[04:38] <Oregon> Blackadder: if its not scary, then I'd def go with just using IP tables from the terminal
[04:38] <Nach0z> dr_willis: dunno how to do that :|
[04:38] <olte1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/825986/
[04:38] <Blackadder> I just need a quick guide on how to block IP addresses in IPtables after I have given ssh & tcp + certain ports always
[04:38] <olte1> something is wrong :/
[04:39] <Oregon> evilaemon: thanks for telling me firestarter isn't maintained anymore...do you know what replaced it?
[04:39] <evildaemon> No but seriously, I'm in 11.10, and my wireless will broadcast WLAN, but won't connect. I think I missed a package installing from mini.iso
[04:39] <Oregon> Blackadder: The link above didnt work?
[04:39] <dr_willis> you said i was impossible. ;)  heh
[04:39] <dr_willis> !blacklist
[04:39] <evildaemon> Oregon: I'm not sure anyone ever wrote a replacement.
[04:39] <daniel_> I'm still having the trouble with my usb drive. It wont' recognize my devices and lsusb freezes. Fdisk doesn't display the drive as being there. I can't safely  remove the drive and it causes Ubuntu to freeze on shutdown
[04:40] <Blackadder> iptables -A INPUT -s 202.54.20.22 -j DROP
[04:40] <Blackadder> iptables -A OUTPUT -d 202.54.20.22 -j DROP
[04:40] <bazhang> Oregon, ufw? gufw if you need a gui
[04:40] <Blackadder> got it
[04:40] <Blackadder> :P
[04:40] <bazhang> !info gufw | Oregon
[04:40] <Oregon> thanks
[04:40] <Blackadder> thanks
[04:40] <evildaemon> Oregon: I guess GUFW is the closest equivalent.
[04:41] <biffbaxter> Likely and I rarely need or use
[04:41] <evildaemon> biffbaxter: Same.
[04:41] <Guest87174> Oregon i found the computer file and did not find camera on there
[04:42] <Oregon> Guest87174: did you try searching google to see if your camera is supported? Give me the model number please
[04:42] <evildaemon> (Which is why I asked about wireless packages.)
[04:42] <bb05> failed linux kernel error? http://paste2.org/p/1891493
[04:42] <Guest87174> okay it is v69379ua
[04:43] <bazhang> Guest87174, what version of ubuntu are you using
[04:43] <Guest87174> lubuntu i think
[04:44] <Guest87174> bazhang when i turn computer on it says lubuntu
[04:44] <Guest87174> do i need to upgrade
[04:44] <bazhang> Guest87174, 11.10? 11.04? and what is that number above? your wireless nic?
[04:44] <biffbaxter> Ding lxde
[04:44] <biffbaxter> Type name -a
[04:44] <dagerik> Bad idea to sync up my eclipse workspace in ubuntu one?
[04:45] <gokul> Is there a tool to upgrade usb flash drive firmware
[04:45] <chaos_zero> hello, i am looking to set up a self hosted site in ubuntu server with bind9 and a .co.cc domain. i have followed the basic bind9 guide but i am stuck. When i try to registed the .co.cc name it asks for my name server, (which it says MUST be a regular name and not an ip address) and i cannot find where this is configures in bind9...any ideas?
[04:45] <biffbaxter> Type uname -a
[04:45] <Oregon> Guest87174: That camera is not supported with linux
[04:45] <Guest87174> BAZHANG it not wireless it a desktop
[04:45] <Oregon> Guest87174: You can force it to work by running the dirvers through iwne (supposedly)
[04:45] <Oregon> Guest87174: but you might not have wine installed
[04:45] <bazhang> Guest87174, it's a webcam? what make and model please
[04:46] <Oregon> its the v69379ua
[04:46] <magpii> i am looking for a mayan time calender applet, can someone help please?
[04:46] <Oregon> he already said its the v69379ua
[04:46] <Guest87174> OREGON i had to install wine a window program to run the sofware that came with camera to get it installed
[04:46] <zykotick9> Oregon: are you sure about that.  Seems gphoto2 might support it.  Guest87174
[04:46] <bazhang> Oregon, since when does hardware work with wine
[04:46] <Oregon> oh wierd....the links on goolge I see says it freezes and wont work
[04:46] <chaos_zero> this is a test, can anyone see this text? yes or no
[04:46] <ome> exit
[04:47] <biffbaxter> No
[04:47] <Oregon> bazhang: I've never heard of that working either...but i'm reading reports of people saying it ONLY worked when itnslling it through wine
[04:47] <magpii> yes we see the text
[04:47] <Oregon> http://www.camerahacker.com/Forums/DisplayComments.php?file=Digital%20Camera/Vivitar/Vivitar_Mini_Digital_Camera_on_Linux
[04:47] <Guest87174> SO basically im screwed and cant use it
[04:47] <Oregon> Oh I guess it works in open suse
[04:47] <KC-45> i have a newbie grep question...
[04:48] <zykotick9> Guest87174: try gphoto2 it might work
[04:48] <Oregon> Guest87174: It works on diff versions of linux
[04:48] <North> I have installed ubuntu 8.04. I failed to upgrade to 10.04 LTS through update manager. I downloaded the ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso on my desktop. I unpacked it and try to install but I don't know how to do. Can anyone help?
[04:48] <bazhang> Guest87174, tried cheese? camorama?
[04:48] <Oregon> you could also try digiKam 0.9.2.
[04:48] <Oregon> supposedly that works as well
[04:48] <magpii> anyone know of a good mayan calender applet or screensaver please?
[04:48] <bazhang> North, dont unpack it. burn the iso to cd
[04:48] <zykotick9> bazhang: i believe it's a camera, not a webcam
[04:48] <KC-45> so....im searching for a criteria using grep...from a textfile
[04:48] <bazhang> zykotick9, ok thanks
[04:49] <Guest87174> OKAY I TRY DO I GOT TO GO Bbackto software center to get these thngs
[04:49] <North> bazhang: I do not have a spare CD or USB available. Any idea?
[04:49] <KC-45> lets say i want to find all courses with the word "business" in them...in a school's course catalog file..
[04:49] <atpa8a> hello
[04:49] <KC-45> but it also displays the course number
[04:49] <bazhang> North, just upgrade via the web then
[04:49] <KC-45> if i want to just display the course....but not the accompanying number
[04:49] <KC-45> how do i do that?
[04:49] <atpa8a> is it "normal" that openssh starts/stops multiple times during boot in 11.10?
[04:49] <North> bazhang: I tried to upgrade via the web more than 5 times. but I failed.
[04:49] <ncc1729> Hey North, Burn the iso on a cd and then install..
[04:50] <North> ncc1729: I do not have a spare CD or USB available. Any idea?
[04:50] <bazhang> North, what were the errors. please clarify
[04:50] <atpa8a> hmm
[04:50] <Guest87174> I BRB
[04:50] <atpa8a> ncc1729: #oracle???
[04:50] <gokul> hello
[04:51] <North> bazhang: after upgrade, i booted but only could see purple logon screen. and it did not go on.
[04:51] <bazhang> North, subsequently did you try booting in recovery mode?
[04:51] <barakisbrown> Yeah..got my linux box so I can dual boot works again..thanks
[04:51] <North> bazhang: there was no recovery mode.
[04:52] <bb05> can some1 help me with a linux kernel update issue?
[04:52] <zykotick9> North: FYI nomodeset will often correct the issue you described "/msg ubottu nomodeset" for details.
[04:52] <North> bazhang: when I reboot, I can see"Starting up" and then purple logon screen. that's all.
[04:52] <bazhang> North, please listen to what zykotick9 just said
[04:53] <hydrox24> bb05: Please, just ask your question and if anyone knows, you will get an answer, if noone knows, then there will be silence
[04:53] <hydrox24> !someone | bb05
[04:53] <bb05> !details
[04:53] <bb05> !poll
[04:53] <North> bazhang: what did zykotick9 say?
[04:53] <zykotick9> North: FYI nomodeset will often correct the issue you described "/msg ubottu nomodeset" for details.
[04:53] <bazhang> !nomodeset | North
[04:54] <barakisbrown> !poll
[04:54] <zykotick9> bb05: you can use "/msg ubotto foo" (replace foo with factoid you want) to get factoids privately
[04:55] <Markus__> how can i troll an irc chat?
[04:55] <bb05> I have ubuntu 10.04 LTS 3 x86_64 installed. I had to install an Intel e1000e driver to get networking support as there is a current bug. I have that fixed and am trying to update my linux kernel, when doing so, I am given an error of the following http://paste2.org/p/1891493
[04:56] <bb05> better? :D
[04:56] <Guest87174> I am installing digikam rite now
[04:57] <bazhang> Markus__, wrong place to ask
[04:57] <Guest87174> Now which is better to plug in at in front of harddrive or in the back of hard drive on my desktop computer
[04:58] <bazhang> Guest87174, should make no difference
[04:58] <Guest87174> there are two usb in front and two usb in back
[04:59] <dagerik> When I sync scripts with ubuntu one, they lose the executable permission. How should this be handled? It is tiresome chmodding +x all the time.
[04:59] <bb05> I would say the back , keeps it out of the way more, but I don't see it making a difference either way
[04:59] <Guest87174> okay BAZHANG so when it installs i try to use it then it dont matter which usb is plugged in then
[05:00] <bazhang> dagerik, good question; you may want to ask in #ubuntuone as well
[05:00] <Guest87174> Sorry iask too many questions im new at this computer stuff and really feel stupid
[05:00] <bazhang> Guest87174, no  difference that I could imagine
[05:00] <Guest87174> okay BAZHANG
[05:02] <dagerik> bazhang: http://askubuntu.com/questions/8416/how-can-i-preserve-the-executable-bit-on-a-file-that-is-synchronized-by-ubuntu-o
[05:02] <barcef> Is there a sleep inhibit applet for the Gnome 3 interface?
[05:03] <bazhang> dagerik, nice catch
[05:03] <North> bazhang: it seems like the computer should boot with liveCD or USB. and then I would be able to setthe NOMODESET.
[05:03] <dr_willis> barcef:  askubuntu.com may have a list of kniwn applets for gnome3
[05:03] <hydrox24> barcef: I use something called caffeine
[05:03] <ssshvb> Hello i downloaded a file and i tried to unpack it  ive got "gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated tar: Unexpected EOF in archive tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now" I do not wanna to download 1 gb again  so the question is.   Is here a program or a way to recheck my downloaded file and the original one so i will not need to re download full file
[05:04] <dagerik> ssshvb: Check the md5sum, if one is provided.
[05:04] <dagerik> couble be bit error in transmission
[05:04] <dr_willis> ssshvb:  wget has a resume feature that might work
[05:04] <mukaibot> ssshvb: what's the full command you're using to extract the file?
[05:05] <mukaibot> and did you get it from a torrent?
[05:05] <ssshvb> just click on file and choose extrac here
[05:05] <ssshvb> thanks guys
[05:06] <ssshvb> guess it is ftp or something it is maya sp2
[05:06] <ssshvb> thanks all
[05:09] <KC-45> how do u make a grep search...look for one syntax...AND at the same time ignore another?
[05:10] <dr_willis> regular expressions are amazeing
[05:11] <mukaibot> KC-45: pipe grep into another grep -v
[05:11] <dr_willis> i know it can be done. but id have to look up examples :-)
[05:11] <mukaibot> for example: grep "important phrase" /var/log/syslog | grep -v "phrase I don't want"
[05:14] <Guest87174> Ok how do you get rid of a firewall
[05:15] <dr_willis>  on your own linux box you mean Guest87174
[05:15] <Guest87174> i figured out how to get the camera/webcam work possibly but it says the samba network has firewall
[05:15] <dr_willis> you may want to changenicks also...
[05:16] <Jjon> How do I make XPI file extensions supported by archive manager?
[05:17] <Guest87174> DR-willis im trying to get a digital camera/webcam working and i found it through a program called dolphin but it say to open it with samba and it say firewall
[05:17] <mukaibot> Guest87174: is it a Webcam or a Digital Camera? These are not the same device
[05:17] <brerrabbit> Oh wow...something's not right here.   I just installed ubuntu on a computer I built and for some reason it is unusably slow!  This is a computer with a sandy bridge i-7 and 16 gigs of ram!!
[05:17] <dr_willis> port forward via router settings if you are comming in frim the internet . but i dont see how a webcam needs samba
[05:17] <brerrabbit> I suppose that must be a driver issue with the motherboard?
[05:18] <goddard> how do i open the terminal with my hotkey ?
[05:18] <acerimmer> goddard: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/assign-a-hotkey-to-open-a-terminal-window-in-ubuntu/
[05:18] <KC-45> ok
[05:18] <dr_willis> dolphin is a file manager. samba usnot needed to access a local device normally
[05:18] <brerrabbit> Mint is on another drive and it seems fine. (minus some video driver issues)
[05:19] <goddard> acerimmer: oh its ctrl + alt + t
[05:19] <brerrabbit> anybody ever run into that before?
[05:19] <dr_willis> brerrabbit:  could be a kernel or driver bug
[05:19] <brerrabbit> solid state hard drive...
[05:19] <brerrabbit> i did install the 64 bit version...
[05:20] <brerrabbit> but i assumed that if any setup could handle that, this one could
[05:20] <acerimmer> brerrabbit: unless you've got >4g if ram, go 32
[05:20] <brerrabbit> acerimmer: 16gigs,
[05:20] <makara> i want to draw an architectural plan of my house, 2D or 3D. What linux program can I use?
[05:20] <dr_willis> i always go 64 if the cpu handles 64
[05:21] <KC-45> mukaibot just tried that..........the | -v doesnt ignore "phrase i dont want"...........it instead ignores "important phrase"
[05:21] <acerimmer> makara: http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/08/8-best-cad-apps-for-linux.html
[05:21] <mukaibot> KC-45: sorry, you'll need to switch it
[05:21] <dr_willis> makara:  theres some gpl cad apps out. or try google sketchup perhas
[05:22] <mukaibot> brerrabbit: what's the output of sudo hdparm -i /dev/sda
[05:22] <mukaibot> brerrabbit: replace /dev/sda with the drive you installed Ubuntu on
[05:22] <mukaibot> for example: grep -v "unimportant phrase" /var/log/syslog | grep "phrase I want"
[05:22] <deckarde> makara: This isn't too bad if you want 'quick and dirty': http://www.sweethome3d.com/index.jsp
[05:23] <brerrabbit> ok...1 sec. (im chatting on a laptop)
[05:23] <makara> i keep hearing about Blender. Is that for models? It all looks the same to me.
[05:23] <makara> I'll check out CAD, thanks
[05:23] <acerimmer> makara: http://www.cycas.de/
[05:23] <KC-45> ok
[05:24] <acerimmer> makara: cad for arch!!!
[05:24] <deckarde> Yeah, blender is typically for 3d models.  It has a pretty steep learning curve.
[05:24] <acerimmer> deckarde: 100% agree
[05:25] <dr_willis> blender not what you want to draw a hoyse plan
[05:25] <KC-45> mukaibot....question...does |   mean "and"?....or does it mean... "or"
[05:25] <deckarde> Oh, yeah, sketchup is probably more like what you're looking for.. There was another one called cycas I think?
[05:25] <dr_willis> sketchup is handy
[05:25] <hydrox24> dr_willis: I was about to suggest the same
[05:25] <deckarde> It was similar to sketchup..  Personally I like sketchup's interface better but I did a kitchen with cycas.
[05:26] <huangtian> who are you
[05:26] <andyn> spartacus
[05:26] <huangtian> where i am
[05:26] <dagerik> When I add an "echo lol" to my .bashrc, scp does not work anymore. Why is this?
[05:26] <mukaibot> KC-45: the pipe symbol "|" passes the output of command to the next
[05:26] <ratbert90> hey, anybody have any experience with rabbitvcs?  I installed the nautilus-3 extension and it only works with root
[05:27] <huangtian> i am a china
[05:27] <acerimmer> huangtian: do you have an ubuntu question??
[05:27] <mukaibot> KC-45: so basically the first line says "show me all of /var/log/syslog without 'some phrase'", and then you feed that into the next grep "only show me lines which contain foo"
[05:27] <andyn> !zh | huangtian
[05:27] <huangtian> yes
[05:27] <mukaibot> KC-45: you can use as many pipes as you want
[05:28] <huangtian> 有中国人吗？
[05:28] <KC-45> ok
[05:28] <acerimmer> huangtian: for chinese language support go to #ubuntu-cn or #ubuntu-tw
[05:29] <mukaibot> that's why BASH (your shell) has a command to edit the current command line in your text editor (because sometimes they can be very long!)
[05:29] <mukaibot> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/939241/edit-commandline-with-editor-in-tcsh
[05:29] <andyn> well, obviously he asked whether there were any chinese people (the middle three characters) here.
[05:29] <KC-45> ok....the two greps...work...on their own...........but not together :-(
[05:29] <brerrabbit> mukaibot: http://pastie.org/3300451
[05:30] <mukaibot> brerrabbit: well, we know what it's NOT at least :)
[05:30] <mukaibot> KC-45: paste the complete line then, something isn't right
[05:31] <brerrabbit> mukaibot: i didn't catch your meaning :)
[05:31] <mukaibot> brerrabbit: I thought your hard drive might have been operating slowly
[05:31] <brerrabbit> BuffType=unknown, BuffSize=unknown
[05:31] <mukaibot> but it's not - it's operating at a normal speed
[05:31] <brerrabbit> ?
[05:31] <andyn> KC-45: if you pipe two grep commands together both conditions have to be satisfied in order to pass data through.
[05:32] <KC-45> grep -v 'intro' myCourses.txt | grep -i 'bus'
[05:32] <KC-45> tried it that way
[05:32] <andyn> so it works like the logical operator AND
[05:32] <mukaibot> ok, I'm off guys. Good luck KC-45 and brerrabbit!
[05:32] <KC-45>  grep -i 'bus' myCourses.txt | grep -v 'intro'
[05:32] <KC-45> tried it that way
[05:32] <brerrabbit> ha...good nite :)
[05:32] <KC-45> ah
[05:32] <KC-45> arggg
[05:32] <KC-45> lol
[05:33] <andyn> so you're looking for non-introductory courses with the word "bus" in their name.
[05:33] <andyn> amirite?
[05:34] <KC-45> ya
[05:34] <KC-45> what im actually looking for...is business courses....but without the course number
[05:34] <KC-45> but im just testing it on words alone for now
[05:34] <KC-45> when i use -v '[0-9]'   i get nothing
[05:35] <andyn> man grep
[05:35] <KC-45> grep -i 'bus' myCourses.txt | grep -v '[0-9]'       <<tried that....nothing returns
[05:35] <andyn> oops
[05:36] <andyn> i believe you could try grep -v -e "[0-9]" if you want to use a regexp
[05:37] <andyn> or egrep -v "[0-9]"
[05:38] <_rahmat_> hi all
[05:39] <acerimmer> _rahmat_: greetings
[05:39] <KC-45> ok
[05:39] <chaos_zero> ok...how can i make ubuntu rescan the pci busses after hot plug adapters are installed?
[05:40] <_rahmat_> i'm using ubuntu 10.04 in asus eeepc 1215p, yesterday it worked perfectly. But today, there is no sound come out from my laptop. Any idea? thanks.
[05:40] <KC-45> andyn: egrep -v "[0-9]" doesnt work
[05:41] <acerimmer> _rahmat_: silly queston, i know, but did you check to see if you muted sound?
[05:41] <_rahmat_> chaos_zero : use lspci, paste the output to pasteb‌.
[05:42] <_rahmat_> acerimer: thanks for the response. Yes, i have checked it. I even use alsamixer, to adjust my speaker volume. any idea? thanks
[05:42] <phirestalker> can someone point me to instructions for creating an encrypted directory that has a new key on each start similar to how encrypted swap works. I can't seem to find it on google
[05:43] <drcode> hi all
[05:43] <acerimmer> _rahmat_: do you get sound via headphones?
[05:43] <_rahmat_> _acerimer_ : yes
[05:44] <drcode> I have bout asus n55sf laptop , I have copy ubuntu 11.10 into usb with unetboot , When I try to reboot into ubuntu I got blackscreen , nothing happend , any idea?
[05:44] <drcode> I have downloaded ubuntu from torrent
[05:45] <_rahmat_> drcode : have you try to run your flashdisk in virtualbox?
[05:45] <acerimmer> _rahmat_: if you've got headphone sound, I suspect you directed your output to headphones only: Sound Preferences>Output>Connector>*you want* analog speakers
[05:45] <drcode> no
[05:45] <drcode> dose unetboot , have problem to boot?
[05:46] <drcode> or better to use cd?
[05:46] <almoxarife> !info rescan-scsi-bus.sh
[05:46] <drcode> _rahmat_, is there other tool that can convert ubuntu into usb that will work?
[05:47] <_rahmat_> acerimer : Thanks. i already try that. But its not working. any idea?
[05:48] <TheYsNoi> drcode: you can use LinuxLive
[05:48] <_rahmat_> drcode : is your unetbootin updated?
[05:48] <iceroot> drcode: iso or already installed system?
[05:49] <TheYsNoi> That's what I always use when installing Ubuntu or any other flavor
[05:50] <TheYsNoi> drcode: here --> http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[05:50] <acerimmer> _rahmat_: I'm stumped.  Login to a different user account and test.  If it's still quiet, reboot and see if it resets.
[05:50] <_rahmat_> acerimer : ok. let me boot my ubuntu now..
[05:50] <drcode> yes
[05:50] <drcode> I use ppa
[05:51] <drcode> thanx , I didn't know it
[05:51] <drcode> is there problem with this pc n55sf asus
[05:51] <almoxarife> !info scsitools | chaos_zero
[05:52] <drcode> I read some info about nomodeset or acpi=off
[05:52] <drcode> any idea?
[05:53] <phirestalker> can someone point me to instructions for creating an encrypted directory that has a new key on each start similar to how encrypted swap works.
[05:56] <drcode> _ruben, I want to use ubnut has my main system
[05:56] <drcode> don't want to run windows
[05:57] <phirestalker> let me rephrase: Is there a way to have an encrypted directory that is wiped and created new with a random key each boot?
[05:57] <jody>  is there any way i can update xubuntu 10.04  to 11.10 using the command line in the terminal
[05:59] <iceroot> !upgrade | jody
[05:59] <iceroot> jody: but you have to go 10.04 - 10.10 - 11.04 - 11.10
[05:59] <jody> yeah i have xbuntu 10.o4
[05:59] <jody> 10.04 lol
[06:00] <TheYsNoi> jody: it's better a fresh install
[06:01] <iceroot> jody: there is no reason to do a fresh install, just update your system
[06:01] <iceroot> jody: of course its always a good idea to have a backup
[06:01] <iceroot> jody: not only for an upgrade
[06:02] <_rahmat_> acerimer : thanks for your suggestion. I have reboot my ubuntu 10.04, login using different username. But still, no sound come out from my laptop. Any idea? Is there any configuration files for speaker, so I can delete it, and let my ubuntu recreate it? Thanks
[06:02] <iceroot> _rahmat_: nothing muted in "alsamixer"?
[06:04] <acerimmer> _rahmat_: yeah, deleting the config files is the final option.
[06:04] <jody>  ive been intrested in linux for a  very long time and now linux is the only linux  and anything ubuntu is  the only ones i will use now
[06:04] <_rahmat_> acerimer : no. Here is screenshot of my alsamixer http://paste.ubuntu.com/826041/
[06:05] <iceroot> _rahmat_: also nothing muted in "pavucontrol"?
[06:05] <_rahmat_> acerimer : what is pavucontrol?
[06:06] <iceroot> _rahmat_: volume control for pulse-audio
[06:06] <acerimmer> _rahmat_: pulseaudio the other audio control in ubuntu
[06:07] <_rahmat_> acerimer : no
[06:08] <acerimmer> _rahmat_: also check your profile under sound preferences.  For instance, if it's set to 5 speaker surround but you've only stereo headphones it might just do what you're (not) hearing
[06:08] <jody> thank you so very much
[06:11] <sdferfx|away> Does anyone have suggestions for disabling all keyboard and mouse input easily from SSH? I have tried rmmod usbhid but some machines still have PS/2 input devices
[06:11] <_rahmat_> acerimer : Aha! i spot one problem here. According to my alsamixer output in http://paste.ubuntu.com/826041/ my soundcard is HDA Intel. But in pavucontrol its just called 'Internal Audio Analog Stereo'. Any idea? thanks
[06:13] <aBound> _rahmat_, I don't expect it to be called anything else other than what you posted. As my audio system is called: THX TruStudio Pro.
[06:14] <acerimmer> _rahmat_: try setting analog stereo duplex
[06:14] <aBound> It uses the "Internal Audio Analog Stereo" for the volume.
[06:15] <aBound> Whereas my "HDA nVidia Digital Stereo" requires an HDMI output to work.
[06:15] <_rahmat_> aBound : yeah, thanks.
[06:15] <aBound> _rahmat_, No problem.
[06:15] <_rahmat_> acerimer : already try that. But it still not working
[06:15] <acerimmer> _rahmat_: pretty sure this is a matter of setting the right profile.  Might have to just play around until you get rocknroll coming out of the headphones.
[06:16] <_rahmat_> acerimer : thanks. let me play with the setting..
[06:17] <Guest93043> hi i am trying to run Selenium WebDriver according to "http://seleniumhq.org/docs/03_webdriver.html#setting-
[06:17] <Guest93043> up-webdriver-project"
[06:18] <Guest93043> but  iam getting errors when i run "mvn clean install" command....
[06:18] <Guest93043> can someone help me out with this???
[06:19] <acerimmer> Guest93043: #selenium ??
[06:19] <_rahmat_> acerimer : i have try to set output from all profile to analog speakers. But still, no sound come out from my laptop. any idea?
[06:19] <Mike9863> What is the best way to directly connect to a Windows 7 machine that is ideally on the same IP block or IP?
[06:20] <Guest93043> selenium is a tool for automating browsers....
[06:20] <acerimmer> _rahmat_: the only other time I've seen this was when running the real-time kernel for audio editing...
[06:20] <basilic> hello all
[06:20] <acerimmer> sorry IDK more on this
[06:21] <_rahmat_> acerimer : hmm.. do you know where is pavucontrol configuration file located?
[06:21] <Guest93043> @ Acerimmer ::and WebDriver is an API integrated in the tool....
[06:21] <basilic> I have a strange problem, on a server with ubuntu 10.04 when I'm connect with ssh and try to launch a command the program don't found a lib, but in the local all work
[06:22] <acerimmer> _rahmat_: /home/.pulse  kill it, logout, login and attempt music
[06:23] <acerimmer> Guest93043: might want to check with #ubuntu-server or #selenium
[06:24] <Markus__> hi
[06:24] <teststation_> Can sumone help me with Selenium Webdriver ???
[06:24] <_rahmat_> acerimer : ok, let me try it..
[06:24] <acerimmer> _rahmat_: also kill .pulsecookie
[06:24] <Markus__> my at symbol doesnt work comes up with ²
[06:24] <Markus__> anyone help
[06:24] <Markus__> ?
[06:24] <phirestalker> Is there a way to have an encrypted directory that is wiped and created new with a random key each boot?
[06:25] <acerimmer> Markus__: SHIFT 2 = @
[06:25] <evildaemon> phirestalker: Wouldn't a random key render it forever sealed?
[06:25] <acerimmer> teststation_: #ubuntu-server and/or #selenium
[06:25] <phirestalker> evildaemon, I want it to work like the /tmp encryption without having to create a new partition
[06:26] <teststation_> @acer: I didnt get u....
[06:26] <Markus__> acerimmer doesnt work
[06:26] <evildaemon> phirestalker: I didn't know that /tmp was encrypted. Thats an, elegant solution.
[06:27] <bc81> Markus__: you tried checking your keyboard layout is correct?  system > preferences > keyboard > layouts (model, options etc)
[06:27] <_rahmat_> acerimer : thanks for your suggestion. I have delete .pulse/ folder in my home folder, logout, and then relogin. But still, no sound come out from my ubuntu. To note that, sound still come out from my headphones. Any idea? thanks
[06:28] <bc81> Markus__: you check to make sure you're using the correct language as well
[06:28] <acerimmer> _rahmat_: desktop speakers?  laptop?
[06:28] <_rahmat_> acerimer : laptop ASUS eeePC 1215P
[06:29] <renegade_m> hi guys!
[06:29] <bc81> hyello
[06:29] <renegade_m> is it possible to install grub2 without installing linux at all?
[06:30] <vanessa> hi, any idea how to install a broadcom bcm 43231 usb drivers on ubuntu
[06:30] <renegade_m> or can i just simply use a livecd linux then install grub2 from there.
[06:30] <acerimmer> _rahmat_: could the speakers themselves have failed??
[06:30] <acerimmer> renegade_m: live boot and install grub is easy
[06:30] <_rahmat_> acerimer : When i boot to windows 7. Its working. any idea?
[06:30] <renegade_m> yeah, how is that?
[06:31] <renegade_m> i wanted to install grub2 in a dedicated partition.
[06:31] <renegade_m> O.S. independent.
[06:31] <Blue1> renegade_m: this may/may not help:  http://pkill-9.com/recovering-ubuntudebian-linux-after-a-windows-installhiccup/
[06:31] <_rahmat_> regade_m : please write your question in one line.
[06:31] <acerimmer> renegade_m: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CreateBootPartitionAfterInstall
[06:32] <hydrox24> renegade_m: never heard of that, but sounds interesting. I imagine it's as simple as creating a partition, flagging it with boot and unflagging other boot partitions.
[06:32] <renegade_m> yeah, ok.
[06:32] <bc81> renegade_m: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling_GRUB2
[06:32] <renegade_m> yeah.. i did one time.. but that is upon installing ubuntu
[06:32] <acerimmer> _rahmat_: I'm officially mystified. very sorr.
[06:32] <hydrox24> renegade_m: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/grub/grubpartition.htm
[06:33] <teststation_> please help me with selenium.....i am stuck with it and cannot progress....
[06:33] <renegade_m> and I was able to put it in dedicated partition. but after deleting the linux partition, boot menu is lost and what's left is a prompt: grub>
[06:33] <Blue1> anyone good with bash scripts?  why does this hang?  sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org | sudo tee /var/log/timeupdate.log
[06:33] <hydrox24> _rahmat_: do you have any other OSs installed to test the speakers with?
[06:34] <_rahmat_> acerimer : ok. thanks man
[06:34] <vanessa> can can someone assist me in installing drivers for a broadcom usb bcm43231 wireless adapter on ubuntu
[06:34] <Blue1> hydrox24: if those are internal speakers - I never got them to work.
[06:34] <hydrox24> Blue1: will be to do with the ntpupdate command
[06:34] <_rahmat_> hydrox24: yes. its win7
[06:35] <teststation_> welcome mahaboob...
[06:35] <hydrox24> _rahmat_: I'massuming that they're working in win7
[06:35] <Blue1> hydrox24: I am trying to debug a line in a script I am developing - it just hangs at that point, writes a zero length file, script never ends.
[06:35] <_rahmat_> hydrox24: yes. its working in win7
[06:35] <Mahaboobsab> Can anyone help me in Selenium
[06:36] <bc81> Mahaboobsab: /join #selenium
[06:36] <hydrox24> Blue1: perhaps it
[06:36] <hydrox24> Blue1: perhaps the file that tee is piping to doesn't exist?
[06:36] <pooky> Is there an alternative to screen that is mouse aware? I have having to cycle through every screen to get to the split I want
[06:37] <rixter__> hydrox24, it doesn't need to exist.
[06:37] <number1> does anyone know how long it takes to install ubuntu server?
[06:37] <Blue1> hydrox24: shouldn't care it should create it.
[06:37] <CarlFK> number1: about 20 min
[06:37] <rixter__> Blue1, my guess is that piping a sudo command off of a previous sudo command is a problem.
[06:37] <rixter__> Blue1, does it run as root ok?
[06:38] <Blue1> rixter__: yes
[06:38] <usertogo> Hello!
[06:38] <hydrox24> _rahmat_: can you check the output of lspci for any sign of your internal speakers?
[06:38] <Blue1> rixter__: how would I redirect stdout from ntpdate to a file?
[06:38] <rixter__> Blue1, then there is your answer... sudo may be prompting for a password which you won't see due to the | tee
[06:38] <usertogo> Regarding problems that have appeared after the uptate to 11.10
[06:38] <number1> I don't know if server is installing or is jammed. no progress indicator
[06:38] <usertogo> where should I ask?
[06:38] <rixter__> Blue1, add that file into your sudoers file for that user and get rid of sudo...
[06:39] <Blue1> rixter__: done
[06:39] <Blue1> rixter__: I always use sudo when needed.
[06:39] <rixter__> Blue1, I should be more clear, get rid of sudo in the script
[06:39] <Flannel> Blue1, rixter__: piping with sudo like that works just fine, by the way.
[06:39] <rixter__> Flannel, you have piped into a tee?
[06:39] <Flannel> rixter__: yes.
[06:40] <rixter__> i dunno then.
[06:40] <Blue1> I am on ubuntu 10.10 -- script seems to work in 11.10 though
[06:40] <Blue1> had a friend try it.
[06:40] <usertogo> #list
[06:41] <rixter__> Blue1, have your friend do a sudo -i and login, then logout of root and try the script
[06:41] <rixter__> see if it works.
[06:41] <Blue1> ?
[06:41] <Mahaboobsab> hii
[06:41] <rixter__> sudo seems to hold the info for a min or 2
[06:41] <usertogo> My Vlc only shows a black screen audio works!
[06:41] <Flannel> Blue1: What do you get when you try just "sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org"?
[06:41] <Flannel> rixter__: five
[06:41] <rixter__> if its the password prompt, that will do away with that.
[06:42] <Blue1> Flannel: that works
[06:42] <Flannel> Blue1: does it output anything?
[06:42] <KC-45> is there a way to make grep only display a certain portion of a line...from a file?
[06:42] <Blue1> sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org
[06:42] <Blue1>  1 Feb 23:42:38 ntpdate[22013]: adjust time server 198.137.202.16 offset 0.007732 sec
[06:42] <rixter__> KC-45, you will probaly want awk, check with #bash.
[06:43] <REK_007> my ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS boots from USB but after I install GRUB fails to work
[06:43] <KC-45> ok
[06:43] <Blue1> REK_007: how are you installing grub?
[06:43] <hydrox24> Blue1: are you able to pipe it using ">" or ">>" (to append) without root privileges?
[06:43] <plouffe> usertogo, restart vlc
[06:43] <Flannel> Blue1: ok, what about "sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org | less"?
[06:43] <Blue1> hydrox24: no, that is the issue
[06:43] <REK_007> Blue1: I install win7 then install ubuntu in another partition
[06:44] <rixter__> Blue1, i still say the second sudo is the problem.
[06:44] <Flannel> rixter__: it's not.
[06:44] <REK_007> used to work but recently it stopped working after a did a BIOS update
[06:44] <REK_007> I tried everything that I know of but no results
[06:44] <Blue1> REK_007: here's a recipe that may fix that: http://pkill-9.com/recovering-ubuntudebian-linux-after-a-windows-installhiccup/
[06:45] <usertogo> since the úpgrade' it does the same for any kind of video file
[06:45] <Blue1> rixter__: maybe but I don't know how to redirect the output of the ntpdate command (which requires root) other then using tee
[06:45] <Blue1> the less option just cleares the screen displays the ntpdate ouput at top and hangs
[06:45] <Flannel> You need the tee for the fact that you need elevated privledges to write to /var/log/timeupdate.log, not because of the ntpdate command.
[06:46] <Flannel> Blue1: "hangs"?
[06:46] <REK_007> Blue1: I have lost my old system so will setup a new one... but its same problem after the installation I do a restart and ubuntu doesnt boot :(
[06:46] <Blue1> Flannel: iow if I press control c -- nothing happens
[06:46] <Flannel> Blue1: q, you quit less with 'q'
[06:46] <rixter__> Flannel, you lose the echo to the prompt
[06:47] <Blue1> Flannel: my bad
[06:47] <Flannel> rixter__: what?
[06:47] <renegade_m> guys, thanks this site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 is quite full of information I needed.:)
[06:47] <Blue1> Flannel: I don't use less that often and forgot about that.
[06:47] <rixter__> Flannel, i couldn't get my text to display again.
[06:47] <Flannel> rixter__: which text?
[06:47] <rixter__> Flannel, after running sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org | sudo tee /var/log/timeupdate.log
[06:47] <rixter__> anything i typed
[06:47] <rixter__> it was typing just not showing me
[06:47] <rixter__> enter would produce results
[06:48] <Flannel> Blue1: Alright, now lets try `echo "asdf" | sudo tee /var/log/timeupdate.log`
[06:48] <rixter__> the problem with sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org | sudo tee /var/log/timeupdate.log is your piping sudo not ntpupdate
[06:48] <rixter__> ntpdate
[06:48] <Flannel> rixter__: No, that's not correct.
[06:48] <Flannel> (once you run that, enter your password if it asks, check the file for contents)
[06:49] <TheAbortionator> Testing
[06:50] <Blue1> rixter__: makes sense -- how do I fix that?
[06:50] <phirestalker> evildaemon, I want it to work like the /tmp encryption without having to create a new partition, like an encrypted /tmp directory works
[06:50] <rixter__> Blue1, looking for a switch.
[06:51] <Blue1> rixter__: been trying to figure this out almost all day --
[06:52] <rixter__> Blue1, sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org | sudo tee /var/log/timeupdate.log > /dev/null
[06:53] <Blue1> rixter__: tried that iteration earlier - that did not work either
[06:53] <rixter__> Blue1, works fine here.
[06:53] <rixter__> hangs a sec and displays right.
[06:53] <iToast> Can i get some help
[06:53] <Blue1> rixter__: i will try it again
[06:53] <iToast> Im installing ubuntu server 10.4.3 from a usb and its asking for cdrom drivers
[06:53] <iToast> I forgot what device to point it to for that
[06:53] <iToast> I've switched to virtual console 2 and typed ls -1 s* /dev
[06:54] <iToast> I've tried every drive and got no were, what do i type?!
[06:54] <Blue1> rixter__: odd - it worked!
[06:54] <Blue1> rixter__: I owe you one!
[06:54] <rixter__> luck and searching ;)
[06:55] <rixter__> Blue1, someone also suggested sudo ls -hal /root/ | sudo dd of=/root/test.out
[06:56] <rixter__> in your case sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org | sudo dd of=/var/log/timeupdate.log
[06:56] <Blue1> rixter__: ahh not seen that one.
[06:56] <rixter__> same here.
[06:56] <rixter__> make sense
[06:56] <Blue1> rixter__: I had tried the redirect to /dev/null earlier and it didn't work - this time it did.  can we blame it on wednesday?
[06:57] <rixter__> Blue1, maybe, its thursday here now ;)
[06:57] <xSmurf> is there a hotkey to disable automatic login??
[06:57] <Blue1> nope that's why I was doing the ntpdate thing -- make it a cron that runs once/day
[06:59] <Blue1> rixter__: oh lord - I had to apt-get ntpdate on my debian system. -- it works - but who know that ntpdate was NOT installed?
[06:59] <rixter__> Blue1, lol. there is a way to make a check using bash, but its almost 1 am here, i am going to bed
[07:00] <Blue1> rixter__: easy fix
[07:00] <rixter__> Blue1, good night.
[07:01] <Blue1> rixter__: thank you for your help.  I will mention you in on pkill-9.com
[07:01] <rixter__> Blue1, ok... Thanks? :)
[07:01] <rixter__> just use RiXtEr if you mention me.
[07:01] <Blue1> rixter__: visit http://www.pkill-9.com it;'s my linux help blog
[07:05] <ucenik32> :S
[07:05] <ucenik32> so e ova?:S
[07:13] <chris__> supose I had a text document with a package name on each line that I want to install. How could I have it install every program on the list? Ive tried 'cat programs.txt | sudo apt-get -y install '
[07:14] <_ruben> chris__: put "xargs" between | and sudo
[07:15] <chris__> so I would do 'cat dep | xargs sudo apt-get install'
[07:15] <chris__> so I would do 'cat programs.txt | xargs sudo apt-get install'
[07:16] <xust-> I'm setting up partitions manually. 3gb of RAM. What should I set up for /swap?
[07:16] <xust-> I see differnet %'s of RAM all over the place.
[07:16] <xust-> everywhere between 50% and 200%
[07:17] <chris__> thanks
[07:18] <iToast> hey
[07:18] <acerimmer> iToast: greetings
[07:18] <iToast> What would i put for the cdrom on ubuntu server installer 10.4.3?
[07:18] <iToast> In installing from a usb..
[07:20] <iToast> acerimmer, ?
[07:20] <iToast> what do i Put
[07:20] <rsw> xust?
[07:21] <xust-> yes?
[07:21] <acerimmer> iToast: wish I knew but I'm not a server guy.  Sorry.
[07:21] <iToast> ...
[07:21] <rsw> i like to do 100%, unless it's over 2gb.  then i just stick at 2gb
[07:22] <xust-> okay, nevermind
[07:22] <xust-> this isn't working
[07:22] <xust-> I cant' create a 5th partition
[07:22] <xust-> i'm trying to dual boot with Windows 7
[07:22] <acerimmer> !extended|xust
[07:22] <rsw> yea im running that setup now
[07:22] <xust-> 320gb drive, 160gb to Win7/100mb to the windows 7 boot partition
[07:22] <xust-> the rest of the drive to Linux
[07:22] <acerimmer> xust-: you can do an extended partition, but how do you already have 4 parts/?
[07:23] <xust-> 100mb /boot and 2048 /swap
[07:23] <phirestalker> evildaemon, I want it to work like the /tmp encryption without having to create a new partition, like an encrypted /tmp directory works
[07:23] <xust-> not /swap. just swap.
[07:24] <rsw> are you running the partition editor in the ubuntu installer?
[07:24] <xust-> ya
[07:26] <oldman> Does ubuntu have support for HID compliant touchscreens?
[07:26] <bc81> xust-: so you can only have maximum 4 partitions, correct?  but if you want more, they must be extended (logical)
[07:29] <xust-> it isn't even letting me click add again
[07:30] <bc81> xust-: you probably have to delete one of the primary partitions..better to cancel the task and start over
[07:30] <ubuntu_> hi
[07:34] <xust-> is it necessary to have any of the partitions set to be a primary partition?
[07:34] <xust-> or could they all be logical
[07:34] <xust-> i'm trying to dual boot with Windows 7
[07:35] <bc81> xust-: it is my understanding that you must have at least one primary partition
[07:35] <xust-> well yeah
[07:35] <xust-> those being my windows 7 partitions?
[07:35] <xust-> or do you mean for linux?
[07:36] <almoxarife> <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/WindowsFirst xust-
[07:36] <bc81> xust-: if you are only dual booting, i would put windows on a primary, and install linux on an extended (which also counts as one primary)
[07:37] <bc81> so that way, you have room for 2 more primary (or extended) partitions, if needed later on
[07:45] <JermBob> how can i remove the mail icon from the tool bar in ubuntu 11.10 ?
[07:46] <bc81> JermBob: i'm not sure if it's the same in 11.10, but in 10.10 it was sudo apt-get remove indicator-messages && killall gnome-panel
[07:47] <JermBob> ill try
[07:48] <xSmurf> wtf /etc/network/if-pre-up is broken?!?!
[07:49] <xSmurf> since like 9.04 O.o
[07:49] <JermBob> bc81 what is the && killall gnome-panel going to do ?
[07:49] <JermBob> i understand the rest
[07:49] <bc81> JermBob: that will restart the panel
[07:50] <JermBob> is that what && does ?
[07:50] <bc81> JermBob: that is, if 11.04 even usues the panel anymore
[07:50] <ServerSage> JermBob: && means run the second command if the first is successful.
[07:50] <rixter_> execute a command after the previous one has executed correctly
[07:50] <JermBob> ah cool
[07:50] <JermBob> learning :D
[07:51] <JermBob> so gnome-panel: no process found
[07:51] <rixter_> JermBob, a single & means execute the command in the background
[07:51] <JermBob> otherwise it removed the indicator-messages
[07:51] <ServerSage> JermBob: Great for stringing a bunch of commands together that depend on each other.  :)
[07:51] <JermBob> thats cool
[07:52] <JermBob> ill just reboot
[07:52] <bc81> JermBob: it might be that gnome-panel is not used in 11.04 (i don't know this)
[07:52] <bc81> JermBob: log out/in should suffice
[07:52] <JermBob> bc81 thanks and yeah looks like the -panel is missing. i rebooted before i got that last msg
[07:52] <xSmurf> not one else thinks if-pre/post-up being broken is pretty serious??
[07:52] <JermBob> all is good tho
[07:53] <xSmurf> that means there's no way to automatically start a vpn
[07:53] <xSmurf> that a big issue
[07:53] <ServerSage> xSmurf: Take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient
[07:54] <ServerSage> xSmurf: Tiny bit out of date, but might get you going in the right direction.
[07:54] <JermBob> bc81 it worked
[07:54] <JermBob> thanks heaps
[07:54] <JermBob> it was a icon id never use
[07:54] <bc81> JermBob: welcome :)
[07:54] <bc81> same here
[07:54] <xSmurf> ServerSage: that's of no help
[07:54] <JermBob> awesome
[07:54] <xSmurf> there are also other reasons to need if-pre/post-up
[07:55] <xSmurf> like loading iptable rules
[07:56] <ServerSage> xSmurf: If I remember correctly, and I may not, you can add some symlinks in your run levels for init.d/networking that will force if-pre/post-up to be read on boot.
[07:57] <ServerSage> xSmurf: Hang on, let me see if I can find it.
[07:58] <ServerSage> xSmurf: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netbase/+bug/727470
[07:59] <eldereko> has anyone tried cinnamon from mint in ubuntu?
[08:01] <daproim> rtnrtmr
[08:02] <daproim> hey
[08:02] <eldereko> yo
[08:02] <daproim> what
[08:02] <eldereko> what
[08:04] <xSmurf> ServerSage: these are there already
[08:07] <ServerSage> xSmurf: That is officially the end of my knowledge. :)
[08:14] <xSmurf> none of the workarounds I can find actually work
[08:14] <xSmurf> this is really frustrating
[08:14] <scottj> is there a command that passed an absolute path of a filename will return just the filename part (no paths)
[08:15] <xSmurf> scottj: basename
[08:15] <me-1> hi..how can i extract a file with .sit extension..?
[08:18] <ServerSage> me-1: Stuffit or unarchiver will do it, but you'll have to do some leg work to get them installed in linux.
[08:18] <ServerSage> me-1: Though I can't promise they will work with new sit files.
[08:19] <me-1> ServerSage,  ok thank you
[08:19] <Markus__> how can i troll a channel?
[08:19] <me-1> i will try and ask here
[08:19] <ServerSage> me-1: If you have a friend with a mac, have them unpack it and rezip it.
[08:19] <Markus__> >
[08:20] <Markus__> <how do i troll a channel?>
[08:20] <Markus__> <how do i flood a channel?>
[08:20] <enchilado> Markus__: what client are you using?
[08:20] <Ben64> Markus__: this is an ubuntu support channel, don't talk about or do that kind of stuff here
[08:20] <i_is_broke> Markus__, that is off topic for here.
[08:20] <ritz> me-1,  you could run stuffit via wine
[08:20] <d[-_-]b> Markus__, what is a troll? new type or irc feature?
[08:21] <ritz> on inux
[08:21] <urlin2u> Markus__, you were here earlier and told your in the wrong place.
[08:21] <i_is_broke> !ot
[08:21] <enchilado> Markus__: most clients auto-flood with alt+f4
[08:21] <Markus__> CAN ANYONE HELP ME?
[08:21] <enchilado> Markus__: try /part -flood #ubuntu
[08:22] <Ben64> Markus__: if you ask an ubuntu support question, maybe
[08:22] <linux> hello
[08:22] <Ben64> enchilado: that isn't helping
[08:22] <linux> jian zhi jiushi kaiwanxiao
[08:22] <enchilado> Ben64: sorry :s
[08:23] <bc81> DaZ from trem 1.1?
[08:24] <linux> who
[08:24] <ritz> me-1, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=4581
[08:24] <ritz> me-1, sudo apt-get install wine
[08:25] <linux> hah
[08:25] <bkerensa> !ircguidelines | linux
[08:26] <ServerSage> bkerensa: You may have missed him.  :)  He just left.
[08:26] <iToast> Hey
[08:26] <iToast> Can i have some help
[08:26] <bc81> !ask | iToast
[08:26] <iToast> what does the ubuntu 10.4 installer mount the drive it booted from as?
[08:27] <iToast> its asting for a cdrom driver (WHY?!) and i need to specifie that drive
[08:27] <ProGimp> Hello. Can someone help me. I actually my OS windows and one partition installed in my PC. Since i have install Ubuntu 11.10. I can't see my partitions where there is my windows 7 and my other partition. How can i view theme? I'm planning to delet them.
[08:27] <iToast> ProGimp, If your deleting them why didn't you whipe the whole drive first?
[08:28] <ProGimp> I thought it can be view
[08:28] <ProGimp> after installing
[08:28] <ProGimp> Ubuntu 11.10
[08:28] <bc81> ProGimp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:28] <iToast> bc81, you got him wrong
[08:28] <ritz> ProGimp,  if I understand, you are trying to delete the windows partition, and have no data on these ?
[08:29] <iToast> bc81, he wants windows not ubuntu, hes after finding the windows partition and deleting it
[08:29] <ProGimp> OK il check it. Thanks
[08:29] <DaZ> bc81: trem 1.1? >:
[08:29] <auronandace> ProGimp: which partition do you want to delete?
[08:29] <ProGimp> yeah
[08:29] <ProGimp> actually i want to delet
[08:30] <ProGimp> the window partition
[08:30] <ProGimp> But before deleting my windows 7 partition. I want to view first
[08:30] <ProGimp> the files using some tool from Ubuntu
[08:30] <ritz> ProGimp, you would need to install ntfs driver
[08:30] <ProGimp> Is that possible that i can view the files?
[08:30] <ritz> ProGimp, gpart for deleting partitions
[08:31] <bullgard4> ProGimp: Did you try Nautilus?
[08:31] <ProGimp> OK. Ahmm Not yet
[08:31] <auronandace> ProGimp: yes, you can mount the partition in ubuntu and copy whatever files you need
[08:31] <ritz> ProGimp, apt-get install ntfs-3g
[08:31] <iToast> so...
[08:31] <auronandace> ritz: it's installed by default
[08:31] <ritz> auronandace, sweet, I was not aware
[08:31] <iToast> Does anyone have any idea?
[08:32] <ritz> ProGimp, "sudo fdisk -l"  to list partitions
[08:32] <ServerSage> iToast: Is this when you first boot the installer?
[08:32] <ritz> iToast, idea about ?
[08:32] <iToast> ServerSage, yes
[08:32] <ritz> iToast, nm, no clue
[08:32] <iToast> What do I put for cdrom drivers, automacially loading them fails so i need to specify what drive is the installers boot drive
[08:33] <ServerSage> iToast: Are you using a CD-Rom drive from the 1980's?
[08:33] <ritz> ProGimp, sudo mount /dev/<partition>  /mnt/<path>
[08:33] <iToast> ServerSage, Its booting from a usb
[08:33] <ritz> ProGimp, this should allow you to view data on drive
[08:34] <ServerSage> iToast: See, thats a different question.  :)
[08:34] <ritz> ProGimp, Ubuntu might have gui for this - palimpsest
[08:34] <iToast> ServerSage, Its the same thing...
[08:34] <iToast> It requires me to specify the boot drive as a cdrom or it can't load files.
[08:34] <wisnia> hi who knows how to move window x - []  from left to right?
[08:35] <ritz> wisnia, Unity ?
[08:35] <auronandace> !controls | wisnia
[08:35] <ProGimp> OK actually I have a plann deleting my previous partition where i have installed my Window 7, I thought i after installing Ubuntu 11.10. I can view the partition drive that's why i never care wiping it out while in process installing UBuntu. Now I have successfully installed Ubuntu, I want to view all the partitions so i can save some other files and keep them. After keeping it, i want to delet
[08:35] <ProGimp> it after. Is it possible that there is a way that i can view it of some tools in Ubuntu? Or can download some tool that i can manage it to view and delet. ?
[08:35] <ServerSage> iToast: No, it's a different question.  Either way, how did you create the USB stick?
[08:36] <auronandace> ProGimp: yes, mount the partition and copy the files
[08:36] <iToast> ServerSage, Its the same question becuase its the same issue really..
[08:36] <ritz> ProGimp, try running  palimpsest
[08:36] <iToast> Also, i used unetbootin
[08:36] <auronandace> ritz: why not just use the file manager?
[08:36] <ProGimp> I don't know how to use that
[08:37] <ritz> auronandace, not sure, if the partition is mounted
[08:37] <ProGimp> Can file manager view the partition?
[08:37] <iToast> ProGimp, yes
[08:37] <auronandace> ProGimp: yes it should
[08:37] <ProGimp> can delet it too?
[08:37] <iToast> If its mounted, it will show it as a HDD
[08:37] <ProGimp> How about NTFS
[08:37] <ritz> ProGimp, assuming it is mounted or you have the permission to mount
[08:37] <iToast> ProGimp, yea...
[08:37] <auronandace> ProGimp: gparted can delete it, but first you need to mount it and copy what you want off it
[08:37] <ritz> file manager does not care about NTFS, this is managed by the OS
[08:38] <ProGimp> So gparted can really work my needs?
[08:38] <ProGimp> or wants
[08:38] <iToast> ProGimp,  yea...
[08:38] <auronandace> ProGimp: yes
[08:38] <ProGimp> I just want to delet and view
[08:38] <iToast> It does for everyone...
[08:38] <iToast> ServerSage, so...?
[08:38] <ProGimp> OK il try gpart
[08:39] <auronandace> ProGimp: don't you want to get the files off it first, before you delete it?
[08:40] <ProGimp> Yeah
[08:40] <ProGimp> I want to save it and stored them in my Ubuntu folders before deleting my
[08:40] <ProGimp> partitions
[08:40] <auronandace> ProGimp: go to /media/ in the file manager
[08:40] <iToast> ProGimp, The file manager can get hose off.
[08:40] <iToast> those*
[08:40] <iToast> gpart will remove the partition
[08:40] <auronandace> ProGimp: your partition should be listed there
[08:40] <ServerSage> iToast: Have you tried 11.10 by chance?  Just curious if it does the same thing.  I"m guessing it just doesn't like your USB stick.  I had to try a few before I found one that worked.
[08:41] <iToast> ServerSage, I did, it doesn't like my hardware.
[08:41] <ServerSage> iToast: Hint hint.  Wonder where the problem lies...
[08:41] <ServerSage> iToast: Hehe.
[08:41] <iToast> ....
[08:41] <ProGimp> OK. Now my 2nd question. Why is my skype won't work in video call? Thought my cams detect with Cheese
[08:41] <iToast> I talked to someone in #linux and they heled me before but i forgot what tehy told me
[08:42] <iToast> After following their instructions it installed and ran fine
[08:42] <ServerSage> iToast:
[08:42] <ServerSage> iToast: Go look at the chat logs from #linux then.
[08:42] <iToast> I don't think i was using xchat...
[08:42] <ProGimp> Why my Skype won't work in video calls. But in cheese it detects.
[08:42] <ProGimp> I mean my cam
[08:42] <iToast> ProGimp, is your camera linux compatible?
[08:43] <ProGimp> Yeah
[08:43] <iToast> Did you install a apropriate driver on linux for it
[08:43] <ProGimp> It actually detect from Cheese
[08:43] <iToast> Can youview the video in cheese?
[08:43] <ProGimp> Yeah
[08:43] <ProGimp> I can view
[08:43] <iToast> Is skype setup correctly?
[08:43] <iToast> Check your skype settings.
[08:43] <ProGimp> But in skype, i can't do some video call.
[08:44] <ProGimp> I need skype for my client so i must need to run it seems im using already
[08:44] <ProGimp> Ubuntu
[08:44] <iToast> ProGimp, check its settings
[08:44] <iToast> Make sure its using the correct camera
[08:45] <ProGimp> It's actually dissable. I can't click the video call.
[08:45] <iToast> Check your settings ProGimp
[08:45] <ProGimp> In skype?
[08:45] <scottj> what's the best cli tool to empty trash or to put something in trash?
[08:45] <iToast> yes
[08:45] <iToast> Or im ignore you.
[08:45] <iToast> ignoring*
[08:45] <iToast> Your settings are most likely wrong
[08:46] <iToast> ᶘ ᵒᴥᵒᶅ﻿
[08:47] <ProGimp> By the way what is the best tool for radio streaming for Ubuntu?
[08:47] <ProGimp> Or any application you suggest? ^^
[08:48] <iToast> Well, a easy way is teamspeak.
[08:48] <iToast> Users will require the client to hear you but its worth it in the end
[08:49] <dInGd0nG> how can i install ttf-mscorefonts-installer and flash-player installer in a system which has NO internet access?
[08:49] <auronandace> !offline | dInGd0nG
[08:50] <dInGd0nG> but installation of these packages NEED internet access
[08:50] <ServerSage> dInGd0nG: Why?
[08:51] <iToast> dInGd0nG, then download the whole package, not just parts of it...
[08:51] <dInGd0nG> ttf-mscorefonts-installer during installs fetches some files from souceforge
[08:51] <iToast> dInGd0nG, or connect that machine to the internet....
[08:51] <ServerSage> iToast: Not always an option.
[08:51] <dInGd0nG> thats not possible atm
[08:52] <iToast> dInGd0nG, get the full package and all files onto a usb for that machine.
[08:52] <ServerSage> dInGd0nG: http://tinyurl.com/6sn52ok
[08:52] <_godhelpme> how to manualy download and install a package
[08:52] <iToast> Still havent got a answer to my question...
[08:52] <ServerSage> !offline | _godhelpme
[08:52] <iToast> for 2 hours
[08:53] <dInGd0nG> @iToast u jst check with the packages i mentioned. ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[08:53] <ProGimp> Where can i see some showcase that deals some Motion Graphics using Ubuntu?
[08:53] <dInGd0nG> it NEED internet access for installation to complete. otherwise dpkg shows an error
[08:53] <ServerSage> iToast: You said somebody had answered you in #linux.
[08:53] <iToast> But i cant find my logs on xhcat :P
[08:53] <iToast> Im used to using a web client...
[08:54] <Kartagis> ardesia : Depends: binutils (< 2.21.53.20110806) but 2.21.53.20110810-0ubuntu5.1 is to be installed <--- what to do?
[08:54] <ServerSage> iToast: You can't get upset that you aren't getting free help fast enough, especially when you were already helped with the exact same problem earlier.  :)
[08:54] <iToast> :grumpyrj!~rj@119.224.99.216 PRIVMSG ##linux :actually they are the same letters /pedantic
[08:55] <iToast> Thats not a great thing...
[08:55] <iToast> im seeing pms... e_e
[08:55] <iToast> Not to me
[08:56] <dInGd0nG> @ServerSage Thank u :)
[08:57] <ServerSage> dInGd0nG: Welcome, glad it worked for you.
[08:57] <iToast> ServerSage, i dont have logging on...
[08:57] <ServerSage> dInGd0nG: I used to have several servers in secure rooms without internet, I know how you feel.  :)
[08:57] <almoxarife> iToast: why not ask the question again
[08:58] <iToast> Im installing ubuntu 10.4 server and its asking for a cdrom driver, im booting from a usb, what do i type?
[08:59] <_godhelpme> !openssh
[08:59] <iToast> _godhelpme, what
[09:00] <almoxarife> iToast: what options do you have?
[09:00] <iToast> almoxarife, Boot from a usb...
[09:00] <iToast> I can manually specify were the cdrom drivers should be loaded from.
[09:00] <iToast> The issue is i dont know what to type as im not sure what the usb is mounted as.
[09:00] <iToast> i've tried hda hda0 sdb sdc sda...
[09:01] <int1> hi
[09:01] <iToast> Hello and welcome!
[09:01] <Guillem> I'm trying to install libmotif4:i386 and I cannot because  libxmu6:i386 conflicts with libxmu6 (the amd64 one) and then wants to remove a lot of packages. Same happens with libxp6:i386. Is this a bug?
[09:02] <int1> hello jatt
[09:02] <ServerSage> iToast: Well, it will be something like /dev/sdc0
[09:02] <iToast> ServerSage, il try that
[09:04] <almoxarife> Guillem: what needs that dependency?
[09:04] <deel> I got some serious problem with my language settings on oneiric accidentally the language has got changed and rather than English US system wide I see some Korean language I have tried a lot of options such as /etc/default/locale to english and gnome-language-selector but things have not been able to reset back to english https://picasaweb.google.com/107404068162388981296/UnknownAsianLanguage#5704443014619612178
[09:04] <deel> http://askubuntu.com/questions/100684/unwanted-chinese-language-got-set-in-system-settings/100686#comment115904_100686
[09:05] <Guillem> almoxarife, I'm trying to run an old executable which uses motif and it is 32bit.
[09:05] <ServerSage> iToast: I should clarify.  I wasn't implying it would be sdc, but that it will have a number after it.  /dev/sda0, /dev/sdb0, /dev/sdc0, etc…  If you can get to a shell (ctrl-alt-f1 or something) you can always run dmesg to see where it shoved the usb drive.
[09:06] <almoxarife> Guillem: what specifically needs that dependency?
[09:07] <Guillem> almoxarife, it is not an ubuntu package. It is an own code
[09:07] <Kartagis> ardesia : Depends: binutils (< 2.21.53.20110806) but 2.21.53.20110810-0ubuntu5.1 is to be installed <--- what to do?
[09:08] <iToast> ServerSage,
[09:08] <dildo> hi guys
[09:08] <iToast> i rebootd and looked at the arguments that vmlinuz was given
[09:08] <iToast> rebooted*
[09:08] <iToast> Its mounting its self as cdrom
[09:08] <almoxarife> !info multiarch
[09:09] <DXBLouie`> hi everyone
[09:09] <Guillem> almoxarife, question is I should be able to install both libxmu6 or libxmu6:i386. Shouldn't I?
[09:09] <almoxarife> Guillem: have you installed multi-arch support?
[09:09] <iToast> ServerSage, I hate the ubuntu installer.
[09:10] <ServerSage> iToast: I haven't actually had to install ubuntu in a few years.  :)
[09:10]  * dildo slaps FloodBot2 around a bit with a large trout
[09:10]  * dildo slaps FloodBot1 around a bit with a large trout
[09:10]  * dildo slaps FloodBot3 around a bit with a large trout
[09:10] <iToast> ServerSage, /dev/cdrom doesnt work.
[09:10] <dildo> me against you three
[09:10] <dildo> lets go
[09:10] <iToast> Nor does cdrom or /cdrom -_-
[09:10] <FloodBot1> dildo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:10]  * dildo slaps redditalien around a bit with a large salmon
[09:10]  * dildo slaps redditalien around a bit with a large trout
[09:10]  * dildo slaps redditalien around a bit with a large salmon
[09:10]  * dildo slaps redditalien around a bit with a large trout
[09:10]  * dildo slaps redditalien around a bit with a large salmon
[09:10] <iToast> WHY DOES THE INSTALLER HATE ME SO MUTCH?!
[09:10] <taterhead> lol
[09:10]  * fwee slaps redditalien around a bit with a large salmon
[09:10]  * fwee slaps redditalien around a bit with a large trout
[09:10]  * fwee slaps redditalien around a bit with a large salmon
[09:10]  * fwee slaps redditalien around a bit with a large trout
[09:10]  * fwee slaps redditalien around a bit with a large salmon
[09:10] <FloodBot1> fwee: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:11] <ServerSage> iToast: Got a USB dvd drive laying around?  :)
[09:11]  * cock slaps redditalien around a bit with a large salmon
[09:11]  * cock slaps redditalien around a bit with a large trout
[09:11]  * cock slaps redditalien around a bit with a large salmon
[09:11]  * cock slaps redditalien around a bit with a large trout
[09:11]  * cock slaps redditalien around a bit with a large salmon
[09:11] <FloodBot1> cock: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:11] <Ben64> !ops
[09:11] <iToast> !ops
[09:11] <DXBLouie`> how can i set the network interface speed to 100mbps permanently the proper way? i see ethtool does have a script in /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/ethtool and i'm wondering if i can add the setting somewhere in the GUI as opposed to hardcoding it somewhere?
[09:11] <stumbleupon> hey guys whats going on in here
[09:11] <iToast> ServerSage, i got no dvds
[09:11]  * stumbleupon slaps redditalien around a bit with a large salmon
[09:11]  * stumbleupon slaps redditalien around a bit with a large trout
[09:11]  * stumbleupon slaps redditalien around a bit with a large salmon
[09:11]  * stumbleupon slaps redditalien around a bit with a large trout
[09:11]  * stumbleupon slaps redditalien around a bit with a large salmon
[09:11] <FloodBot1> stumbleupon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:11] <iToast> ima try again
[09:11] <iToast> !ops
[09:11] <iToast> Someone get a op!
[09:12] <iToast> actually, il just get gry >_>
[09:12] <taterhead> Oh shit
[09:12] <ServerSage> iToast: Can you boot to a shell?
[09:12] <taterhead> !ops
[09:12] <twitter> !ops
[09:12] <iToast> !ops
[09:12] <Ben64> that works
[09:12] <ServerSage> I think they get it.
[09:12] <iToast> Why aint they banning him...
[09:12] <Ben64> k-line = server ban
[09:13] <iToast> I know
[09:13] <taterhead> So how about that wondows 8
[09:13] <bc81> lol ^^
[09:13] <taterhead> i cant wait
[09:13] <taterhead> To spend $150
[09:13] <taterhead> I mean pirate $150
[09:13] <bc81> !ot
[09:13] <taterhead> Whoops
[09:14] <taterhead> oh ok
[09:14] <taterhead> SO HP g60 with ubunto
[09:14] <taterhead> How do i get wireless to work with it
[09:14] <twitter> hey guys
[09:15] <twitter> whats going on in here
[09:15] <taterhead> How do i get wireless to work with it
[09:15] <Guillem> almoxarife, no, AFAIK. What is multi-arch support?
[09:15] <osse> Can I ask a Ubuuntu Server-related question here? It seems #ubuntu-server is for the developers.
[09:16] <ServerSage> osse: Have at.
[09:16] <justin______> go nuts
[09:17] <osse> Thanks!
[09:17] <iToast> can anyone help me -_-
[09:17] <iToast> Can someone help
[09:17] <iToast> Im ready to smash my server to pieces.
[09:17] <ServerSage> iToast: Have you *tried* getting to a shell?
[09:17] <iToast> Before you say it, its not the usb..
[09:18] <iToast> ServerSage, Yes.
[09:18] <Guillem> almoxarife, I see I've installed: "multiarch-support "and "ia32-libs-multiarch:386" but not "multiarch-support:i386"
[09:18] <[deXter]> iToast what's the issue sorry? (I just joined)
[09:18] <iToast> its suppost to be either /dev/cdrom or /cdrom
[09:18] <semen> wat
[09:18] <iToast> Ubuntu's installer (the crap it is in 10.4.3) is requesting that i point it to the cdrom drivers.
[09:18] <iToast> Im booting from a usb.
[09:19] <iToast> Amazingly it knows were every file is on the usb, it can read the usb, but it requires the drivers...
[09:19] <iToast> For a generic usb..
[09:19] <adrian15> I'm trying to make a chroot jail that works on Ubuntu 10.04. I've tried already 4 or 5 guides but none specific to Ubuntu Lucid. Any one has faced this same problem with a good howto to check? Thank you very much!
[09:19] <[deXter]> iToast, 10.4.3? O.o
[09:19] <iToast> 11.10 is garbage.
[09:19] <osse> I just installed Ubuntu Server (big surprise! :P). When I got to the screen where I could choose to install certain services like OpenSSH or LAMP I pressed Enter to select OpenSSH. It instead jumped ahead to the next screen, presumably selecting no services to install. I guess I should have pressed Space. Can I somehow relaunch this wizard or get the same help? If no, is there anything this wizard would
[09:19] <osse> have set up for me (e.g. conf files) that I miss out on by installing the packages manually?
[09:20] <iToast> Its hardware is non esistant.
[09:20] <iToast> hardware support*
[09:20] <auronandace> [deXter]: he means 10.04.3 so lucid
[09:20] <[deXter]> Is this an old computer or something?
[09:20] <ServerSage> osse: Installing them manually will do everything for you.
[09:20] <[deXter]> auronandace, yeah, LTS right
[09:20] <iToast> ITs a thin client by wyse
[09:20] <bc81> cd-info
[09:20] <ServerSage> osse: The wizard doesn't do anything special.  :)  Just apt-get install them after you are done installing the OS.
[09:21] <[deXter]> iToast, How exactly did you create the USB drive?
[09:21] <iToast> unetbootin
[09:21] <iToast> When I use YUMI the installer never works right unless its 11.10
[09:22] <osse> ServerSage, exactly the awnswer I was hoping to get. Thanks!
[09:22] <[deXter]> iToast, exactly what do you mean by "never works right"? did you choose 10.04 from the list?
[09:22] <osse> answer
[09:22] <ServerSage> osse: Happy to help.
[09:22] <Ben64> osse: also, you were supposed to hit Space for each item in that list :)
[09:23] <iToast> dex yes, but it treats every 10.4 iso as a desktop, and then it doesnt boot correctly
[09:23] <osse> Ben64, I learned that lesson half a second too late :P
[09:23] <Ben64> osse: :) but yeah, "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" will accomplish the same thing
[09:24] <[deXter]> iToast, can you paste the contents of your syslinux.cfg please?  (Use a pastebin)
[09:25] <iToast> dex, vmlinuz is mounting as /cdrom
[09:25] <iToast> I should be able to just use /dev/cdrom or /cdrom or cdrom...
[09:26] <[deXter]> iToast, please paste your .cfg file..
[09:26] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[09:27] <ikonia> iToast: vmlinuz should never be mounted as /cfrom
[09:27] <ikonia> cdrom
[09:27] <ServerSage> mattwj2002: Don't be sexist, could be ladies in here too.  Hehe.
[09:27] <mattwj2002> I am looking for the best usb 802.11 abgn nic for that works without drivers
[09:27] <ikonia> ServerSage: don't be silly please.
[09:27] <mattwj2002> and ladies
[09:27] <mattwj2002> :)
[09:27] <ikonia> !hcl > mattwj2002
[09:27] <iToast> ikonia, tell the dev of unetbootin that
[09:28] <ejv> osse: when you're finished installing, just `sudo apt-get install openssh-server`
[09:28] <ikonia> iToast: many people use unetbootin without issue, so I doubt it's an application issue
[09:29] <iToast> ikonia, :/
[09:29] <mattwj2002> http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/category/WIRELESS
[09:29] <osse> ejv, thanks I will.
[09:29] <Chotaz> if I have a 25GB folder, what piece size should I set in mktorrent when creating a file?
[09:29] <[deXter]> iToast, I'm still waiting on your .cfg ..
[09:29] <mattwj2002> which ones are usb?
[09:30] <osse> My plan is to set up a small Redmine codehostingbugtracker thingy
[09:30] <ikonia> mattwj2002: that's for you to research, not us
[09:31] <mattwj2002> okay
[09:31] <mattwj2002> thanks for the help
[09:31] <Kartagis> yesterday I had Dummy Output at sound properties. how do I fix it?
[09:31] <[deXter]> iToast, are you on / do you have access to a ubuntu machine already?
[09:31] <ServerSage> Chotaz: Not really an ubuntu question.
[09:32] <Kartagis> xx4h: stop that
[09:32] <iToast> dex, no
[09:32] <[deXter]> Windows?
[09:32] <iToast> yes
[09:32] <iToast> Im ready to give up on ubuntu...
[09:32] <parapan> hello fellows > does anyone knows hot to transform a pdf into .doc or something to open with Open Office ???
[09:32] <[deXter]> iToast, Have you tried Universal USB Installer?
[09:32] <iToast> I've only come back to ubuntu because debian is HORRIBLE! with gameservers
[09:33] <justin______> gameservers?
[09:33] <iToast> http://pastebin.com/XrQmvVwB
[09:33] <justin______> what debian gameservers?
[09:33] <iToast> justin______, sa-mp requires libstb++6
[09:33] <ejv> please spare us your professional annotations, they are irrelevant.
[09:33] <iToast> Install that on debaib and you get a conflict error, then when it does work, sa-mp can't access the files...
[09:33] <[deXter]> iToast, http://live.learnfree.eu/download   <-- it specifically supports 10.04.3 so you might have better luck with it
[09:33] <ServerSage> parapan: Open pdf with OpenOffice, save as Doc.
[09:34] <ServerSage> parapan: Though you'll probably want to use LibreOffice.
[09:34] <iToast> i need that link again
[09:34] <iToast> http://pastebin.com/XrQmvVwB
[09:34] <iToast> Thats the file
[09:35] <ikonia> iToast: that's just a grub menu
[09:35] <iToast> wrong file...
[09:35] <iToast> what file again
[09:35] <ikonia> ?
[09:36] <iToast> what file did you guys want me to post...
[09:36] <ikonia> I didn't ask you to post anything
[09:36] <iToast> i was asked by dexter...
[09:37] <[deXter]> iToast, that file looks fine
[09:37] <parapan> ServerSage: it opens the document but I get only �œ#$,���E������#�##�~�#
[09:37] <[deXter]> iToast, I suggest you try that other tool - LiveUSB install
[09:37] <ServerSage> parapan: Are you sure the PDF file is good?
[09:37] <iToast> link again, like i asked...
[09:39] <mattwj2002> yeah
[09:39] <[deXter]> iToast, http://live.learnfree.eu/support
[09:39] <mattwj2002> that link was no help
[09:39] <parapan> ServerSage: well ...I don't have the original but a copy of this .....my guess is that they used Word and then printed as pdf file ...
[09:39] <mattwj2002> hardware?
[09:39] <iToast> ty
[09:39] <mattwj2002> !hardware
[09:40] <varikonniemi> hello, what software do you recommend to wipe a hdd clean before selling it? ATA secure erase command does nothing to the physcal data...
[09:40] <ServerSage> parapan: You may want to jump into the libreoffice IRC channel.  But if the PDF file is just an image in a pdf, you won't be able to do what you want to do.
[09:40] <ejv> varikonniemi: dd
[09:40] <jatt> you cannot erase data from hard disks
[09:40] <jatt> permanently
[09:40] <ikonia> mattwj2002: you need to find the devices you want and research their linux compatability
[09:40] <varikonniemi> ejv, isn't random write better than writing just 1:s
[09:40] <parapan> ServerSage: k thanks a lot
[09:40] <mattwj2002> okay
[09:41] <ejv> varikonniemi: use /dev/urandom
[09:41] <varikonniemi> oh
[09:41] <varikonniemi> thanks
[09:41] <ejv> do a few passes
[09:41] <dud380> varikonniemi: You can use DBAN
[09:41] <iToast> jatt, i can.
[09:41] <ejv> should be "good enough"
[09:41] <jatt> still data can be recovered
[09:41] <iToast> jatt, Not if you use my method...
[09:41] <dud380> varikonniemi: http://www.dban.org/
[09:41] <iToast> Thermite
[09:41] <jatt> nope
[09:41] <iToast> jate recover data from a puddle of metal...
[09:41] <ejv> you want to discuss data wiping, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[09:42] <jatt> law enforcement has ways to always get data from disks
[09:42] <jatt> no matter what tool you use
[09:42] <iToast> jatt, thermite.
[09:42] <iToast> I dare you to recover data from a puddle of metal.
[09:42] <iToast> I DARE YOU
[09:42]  * ejv taps mic, is this thing on?
[09:42] <dud380> jatt: DBAN writes random data to the HD, I think its secure enough
[09:43] <[deXter]> dd is all you need ;)
[09:43] <Guest6359> #tor
[09:43] <varikonniemi> i don't want to take my system apart for this, so i think i prefer dd
[09:43] <ServerSage> I think I see a vein in ejv's neck starting to throb….hehe.
[09:44] <jatt> you would need more than dd against FBI's computer forensic laboratories
[09:44] <ServerSage> !ot | jatt
[09:44] <varikonniemi> so was it /dev/random or /dev/urandom ?
[09:44] <ejv> varikonniemi: man page each, to learn the differences
[09:44] <[deXter]> urandom
[09:46] <[deXter]> Someone should program ubottu to automatically invite OT people to -offtopic... that channel is dead. :/
[09:46] <iToast> lol
[09:47] <ejv> I have found people would rather stop talking about $OT_SUBJECT than join over there. Let's all move along now. :)
[09:49]  * dud380 coding h4xx0r code
[09:49]  * ikonia would like dud380 to not do pointless /me commands
[09:49]  * dud380 lol
[09:49]  * ikonia isn't laughing
[09:50] <Jjon> Hello, how do I make archive manager recognise XPI?
[09:50] <iToast> Albino peacock.
[09:50] <iToast> Defeats the point of the peacock..
[09:50] <ikonia> Jjon: xpi ? as in java installer ?
[09:50] <ikonia> iToast: what are you talking about ?
[09:50] <iToast> Im watching a video :p
[09:50] <iToast> and its true
[09:50] <ikonia> iToast: ok - then don't talk about it in here
[09:50] <iToast> ikonia, Hater >_>
[09:51] <Jjon> ikonia: I just need to open the package up to use some files from it, it's a plugin thing for firefox.
[09:52] <ikonia> Jjon: ahhh, I honestly don't know if you can do that
[09:52] <ikonia> Jjon: xpi java packages you certainly can't
[09:53] <Jjon> The instructions on the website state that you can, and I remember doing it before, I had to download some stuff for the archive manager with the terminal?
[09:53] <varikonniemi> ok, that dd /dev/urandom write is way too slow for being usable
[09:53] <ServerSage> Jjon: I think api files are just zip files with an xpi extension (as long as they aren't java packages).
[09:53] <ServerSage> varikonniemi: Wiping a drive bit by bit is going to be slow.
[09:54] <varikonniemi> yeah it does 9.xM, dev/zero does 119M
[09:54] <ServerSage> Jjon:Have you tried just changing it from .xpi to .zip for giggles?  It can't hurt, could be fun even.
[09:54] <Jjon> One second.
[09:57] <Jjon> Thank-you guys
[09:57] <ServerSage> Jjon: So that worked?
[09:57] <bc81> hey all, at one point in my bash script i make a zenity info window; is there a way to make that spawn on top of all other windows?
[09:58] <Jjon> It worked just fine
[09:58] <varikonniemi> how do i get the opposite of /dev/zero ? like /dev/one :D
[09:58] <ServerSage> Jjon: I mean, of course it worked.  I knew that.  Hehe.
[09:58] <dagerik> I have a bash_aliases, but they are unreachable from sudo. How can I make aliases available to also sudo?
[09:59] <andyn> varikonniemi: well, by definition a /dev/!zero would output anything from 1 to 255
[10:01] <ServerSage> dagerik: You'd have to put those aliases into root's bashrc, or in the system bashrc.
[10:01] <Jjon> :)
[10:02] <andyn> btw, for some reason changing to this window takes two seconds in irssi
[10:02] <dagerik> ServerSage: Okay. How if I want to make them available in make files? Same problem there
[10:02] <ServerSage> dagerik: Or, you can alias sudo like so:  alias sudo='sudo '
[10:02] <ServerSage> dagerik: Though I do not know the security ramifications of doing so.
[10:03] <Jjon> Should I run a firewall, or is it not too needed?
[10:03] <bc81> nevermind, i figured it out: http://wp.shaibn.com/how-to-help-zenity-to-get-focus-and-be-always-on-top
[10:04] <ServerSage> dagerik: The aliases need to be available to the user running the make files.  If they are using sudo, then you need to make the aliases available to root.  Using the "alias sudo='sudo ' above will accomplish this.
[10:06] <dagerik> ServerSage: I am using an alias called alert, in my make file. But it will not run: alert lolzzzz # gcc -Wall hello.c -o hello
[10:06] <dagerik> /bin/sh: alert: not found
[10:06] <ServerSage> dagerik: Ok….and did you read anything that I said above?
[10:07] <dagerik> ServerSage: yes
[10:08] <boo4android> hello i need help on how to install ubuntu on android samsung galaxy y
[10:08] <Lakii> ;/
[10:09] <[deXter]> boo4android, Lets just say it's nearly impossible.
[10:09] <boo4android> why
[10:10] <boo4android> @dexter
[10:10] <ikonia> not going to happen
[10:10] <ServerSage> dagerik: Not sure what to tell you.  If you run make as the same user that has the alias, it should work.
[10:10] <hydrox24> iToast: you could just write to the disk 37 times with random data then swipe it with a supermagnet :)
[10:10] <ServerSage> boo4android: Because Samsung didn't make it easy?
[10:10] <Shwaiil> hi
[10:11] <boo4android> x_x so it is impossible
[10:11] <[deXter]> boo4android, well first of all the Galaxy Y is a non-popular obscure device.. you'll have to mess with the bootloader, then get the right drivers, compile stuff around, prepare your own initrd, write startup and init scripts
[10:11] <Jjon> ServerSage: the volume control does not work, is that bug known?
[10:11] <ServerSage> Jjon: That's a pretty out of the blue question.  :)  Do you get sound?
[10:12] <Jjon> Serversage: I do get sound, I just can not lower it, and it's blowing my ears.
[10:12] <[deXter]> boo4android, if you really want Ubuntu on a portable device, you could sell your Galaxy Y and buy an HTC HD2.. There are quite a few tutorials online on how to load Ubuntu onto it
[10:12] <Jjon> Serversage: I can lower it with the youtube volume knob, but not with the computers.
[10:12] <boo4android> @dexter which samsung phone is posssible and i got it rooted already
[10:13] <ikonia> boo4android: do you have an ubuntu support question ?
[10:13] <ServerSage> Jjon: Do you have a little speaker icon in your tray?
[10:13] <[deXter]> boo4android, Perhaps #ubuntu-offtopic is a better channel to discuss this.. why don't you join me there?
[10:13] <boo4android> okayyy
[10:14] <Jjon> ServerSage: I do.
[10:14] <ServerSage> Jjon: And when you click on that do you get a slider?  If so, does that slider let you change the volume?
[10:14] <bc81> hey, is there a way to close specific nautilus windows from the terminal?
[10:14] <Jjon> Serversage: The slider does nothing, I can even mute it and it's still the same.
[10:15] <ServerSage> Jjon: Well that is fun.  Open up the mixer and see if anything in there works.
[10:16] <BigWill> you speak frech
[10:16] <Shwaiil> Q: Do  Alienware M17x Laptops suport Ubuntu ? Thanks for looking
[10:16] <scarleo> boo4android, check this out: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.appbuilder.u14410p30729&feature=more_from_developer#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEwMiwiY29tLmFwcGJ1aWxkZXIudTE0NDEwcDMwNzI5Il0.
[10:16] <jnsl> Hi, what is the name of the default Archive manager in ubuntu?
[10:16] <oCean> !fr | BigWill
[10:17] <pra7eek_> jnsl Synaptic
[10:17] <ServerSage> Shwaiil: I think you mean does Ubuntu support M17x laptops, and yes it does.
[10:17] <jnsl> i mean when i right click eg. a zip file and extract it, the gui application that dose that?
[10:17] <MuSh> hey
[10:18] <Shwaiil> ServerSage: thanks a lot for looking, I really appreciate it. So, I wont have any issues installing it on that machine right ? I can probably have dual boot win7 / ubuntu ?! tks
[10:18] <MuSh> a azzurra server?
[10:18] <bc81> jnsl: file-roller
[10:18] <scarleo> jnsl, fileroller
[10:18] <jnsl> ok thanks a bunch =)
[10:18] <scarleo> jnsl, file-roller is correct :)
[10:18] <Jjon> Serversage: It doesn't, for example Audacious doesn't let me either, but gnome MPlayer does let me.
[10:18] <ServerSage> Shwaiil: I make no promises.  :)  But I just got rid of my m17x and had been running Ubuntu on it without issue.  Yes you can dual boot.
[10:18] <ServerSage> Jjon: What sound card do you have?
[10:19] <bc81> i'm looking for a way to close specific windows from the terminal...any ideas?
[10:19] <Jjon> Serversage: Motherboard
[10:19] <grummund> Hi, how does ubuntu allocate order or /dev/ttyUSB{0,1,2,..} if the devices are already plugged in at boot time?
[10:19] <ServerSage> Jjon: Which chipset?  If you open a terminal you can run lspci to find out.
[10:19] <Shwaiil> ServerSage: you got rid of m17x, found a better alternative ? I need it because of the graphic card, and looks like a good computer for 2d , 3d work , video, etc
[10:20] <invincibledroid> i need help on gedit
[10:20] <bc81> for example i'd like to close a nautilus window from the terminal that has navigated to /home/bc81/some/folder    any suggestions?
[10:20] <invincibledroid> anyone please help
[10:20] <ServerSage> Shwaiil: Diddn't say I found a better alternative, just rotated laptops.
[10:20] <bc81> ask away invincibledroid
[10:20] <Jjon> serversage: It's just silicon integrated systems sis7012.
[10:20] <invincibledroid> how to make my external tool language sensitive in gedit
[10:20] <Shwaiil> ServerSage: sure, thanks :)
[10:20] <invincibledroid> all my external tools is applicable to all languages now
[10:21] <invincibledroid> anyway to create a new language context for a new language
[10:21] <m_tadeu> hi...I'm trying to use mysqldbexport, but I'm getting the following error "ImportError: No module named mysql.utilities". How can I solve this?
[10:21] <bc81> invincibledroid: no idea, have you looked at creating a keyboard layout maybe?
[10:22] <invincibledroid> i suspect the external tool is buggy or not fully inplemented
[10:22] <invincibledroid> very little documentation available online
[10:22] <ServerSage> Jjon: Hmmm, I'm surprised none of the sliders in the mixer worked.
[10:23] <Jjon> ServerSage: Okay, I have to go now, thanks for your concern.
[10:23] <bc81> invincibledroid: what tool(s)?  maybe you want to look into keyboard layout options?
[10:25] <_Ethan_> which editor should i use for editing python ?
[10:25] <_Ethan_> or which one would you recommend me
[10:26] <ServerSage> _Ethan_: That's a question to start a flame war.  :)  Are you looking for just an editor, or an IDE?
[10:26] <ServerSage> _Ethan_: And really, this is a questions for #phython
[10:26] <tdgunes> _Ethan_: vim :)
[10:26] <_Ethan_> ServerSage,  ok
[10:27] <ztane> trying to use gnome-panel in 11.10 (no, unity does not work, too buggy), but seems that the battery power applet is broken, clicking on the battery icon does nothing?
[10:27] <pra7eek_> pager is not working for my KDE. I try to drag the widget to a panel or the desktop but it doesn't appear there. Please help.
[10:27] <_Ethan_> editor and ide
[10:27] <_Ethan_> thanks tdgunes  :)
[10:27] <ztane> any ideas?
[10:27] <ztane> i do remember it working differently before, eg there was context menu
[10:27] <ServerSage> _Ethan_: For an editor, vim.  I agree with tdgunes there.  For an IDE Komodo Edit is pretty nice.
[10:28] <tdgunes> _Ethan_: python coders don't use ides to much, by the way
[10:28] <ztane> well, i use eclipse+pydev occasionally
[10:28] <ServerSage> tdgunes: That's a rather bold, and all encompassing, statement.
[10:28] <ztane> for python, it has nice functionalities such as spotting incorrectly written variables
[10:29] <bc81> ztane: have a look: http://askubuntu.com/questions/65981/how-can-i-get-gnome-panel-in-ubuntu-11-10
[10:29] <tdgunes> ServerSage: I don't believe in IDE's after I left Visual Studio :)
[10:29] <ztane> but most of the time eclipse lags too much and i end up using whatever editor
[10:29] <ztane> tdgunes: pfft
[10:30] <ztane> tdgunes: visualstudio 6, .net user here :P
[10:30] <tdgunes> ztane: It was long time ago :)
[10:30] <ServerSage> tdgunes: We are getting way -offtopic here, but just because you no long use, or believe in, an IDE doesn't mean all of the python community feels the same.
[10:31] <_Ethan_> ok
[10:31] <_Ethan_> ServerSage,  i thought about geany too
[10:31] <fasad> i once tried onscreen keyboard, ever since then it always starts everytime i log in, how can i disable it permanently?
[10:31] <ztane> ok, seems the gnome-apnel etc is a no-go
[10:31] <_Ethan_> do you recommend me any vim tutorial by the way ?
[10:32] <ztane> so how can i get my unity fixed? :D taskbar missing sometimes, stupid sidebar pops up everytime something says something in skype, alttab does not show windows, fullscreen windows disappear fromn taborder, etc etc... :D
[10:32] <ServerSage> _Ethan_: I've never used geany, so no opinion here.  As for a vim tut, I honestly don't know of any off the top of my head.  A quick google search returned some results though.  *shrug*
[10:33] <tdgunes> _Ethan_: vim is not easy to use when you first try. if you are looking for an easy one for now use gedit, kwrite.
[10:33] <tdgunes> _Ethan_: for small scripts, nano can help too :)
[10:33] <bc81> fasad: you might check system > preferences > assistive technologies
[10:35] <fasad> bc81: hmm. switche doff the keyboard there. will see if that works #next time i log in
[10:35] <_Ethan_> ok!!
[10:35] <_Ethan_> thanks a lot for your kind help
[10:36] <bc81> fasad: ok, if that doesn't work, have a look in your startup applications: system > preferences > startup applications
[10:37] <pooky> can anyone suggest a channel for help with a regex
[10:37] <ztane> pooky: context?
[10:37] <ztane> pooky: that is regex, where :D
[10:38] <pooky> sorry
[10:38] <pooky> in bash
[10:38] <pooky> I'm trying to do \(x\|y\)
[10:38] <pooky> but it doesn't work
[10:38] <ztane> #bash? :P
[10:38] <pooky> if I do \(x\)
[10:38] <pooky> hrm
[10:38] <pooky> ok
[10:39] <ztane> or you mean you run grep in bash? :D
[10:39] <fasad> bc81: your all instructions assume i'm using GNOME.
[10:39] <pooky> actually
[10:39] <pooky> usng find
[10:39] <fasad> bc81: i'm on unity
[10:40] <ztane> pooky: then it is not bash :P
[10:40] <bc81> fasad: *sigh* your questions assume (but i need to get updated, still using 10.10 ;)
[10:40] <ztane> pooky: seems the find regex uses "emacs" format by default
[10:41] <fasad> bc81: well precise is just around the corner :)
[10:41] <ztane> pooky: could be that you should not escape \|
[10:42] <bc81> fasad: hehe, i'm stubborn.  i still run 5.04 (hoary) on an old vaio laptop
[10:42] <ztane> pooky: try \(x|y\) or try -regextype posix-basic
[10:43] <ztane> pooky: hmm, atually \| should work as "or" in regex
[10:43] <fasad> bc81: whoa !
[10:45] <g105b> Is it possible to remove the passphrases from a public key without having to redistribute the key to where it's used?
[10:47] <ServerSage> g105b: No, not that I know of.  I'm pretty sure that is not possible.
[10:47] <ServerSage> g105b: You pretty much have to make a new key without a passphrase and redistribute it.
[10:47] <g105b> ServerSage: that's what I thought. ok thanks
[10:51] <winnie667> hello! i've never really understood the "bind to adress" option which appears in several services. In the /etc/config/mpd.conf file, will this work? ;   interfaces = 127.0.0.0/8 eth0 eth1 eth2 wifi0 wifi1
[10:52] <bc81> oh yea, i figured out my last question above; you can close specific windows using wmctrl -c NAME :)
[10:52] <winnie667> is i do instead:   ;   interfaces = 127.0.0.0/8 will that mean that any machine on the local network be able to acess the samba share regardless of interface?
[10:53] <MullahGeek> syn
[10:53] <_ruben> 127.0.0.0/8 covers localhost, not the local network
[10:53] <winnie667> so 192.168.0.0 for lan
[10:53] <winnie667> or 192.168.0.0/255 =
[10:53] <llutz> 192.168.0.0/24
[10:54] <winnie667> and if i skip naming an interface, any interface will do
[10:54] <Rods_Tiger> what can I run in ubuntu which will get the computer working hard? This office is freezing cold, maybe the computer can help warm it up if it's left being overdriven with no user intervention.
[10:55] <winnie667> Rods_Tiger: cpuburn :)
[10:55] <Rods_Tiger> aha - thanks
[10:55] <winnie667> Rods_Tiger:
[10:55] <winnie667> That is NOT recommended
[10:55] <winnie667> i hope you were joking
[10:55] <Rods_Tiger> it was just recommended just now
[10:56] <Rods_Tiger> make your mind up
[10:56] <winnie667> if it's not your computer, go ahead
[10:56] <Rods_Tiger> not my computer
[10:56] <Rods_Tiger> and I'm freezing
[10:56] <winnie667> i think there are programs to donate processing power to different projects
[10:57] <Rods_Tiger> ok, other than cpuburn?
[10:57] <_Ethan_> i am reading this
[10:57] <_Ethan_> http://pastebin.com/83Zwjt0D
[10:57] <_Ethan_> how should i do this?
[10:58] <winnie667> _Ethan_: #python
[10:58] <winnie667> will probably be of more help to you
[10:58] <_Ethan_> ok
[10:58] <d00de> _Ethan: why would you want to do that for?
[10:58] <_Ethan_> d00de,  i am reading that in a script
[10:59] <_Ethan_> and i dont know the purpose
[10:59] <SilentDrgn> Good morning everybody.
[11:00] <d00de> it doesn't have purpose
[11:00] <tomek_> who knows any gui tool for managing services in ubuntu?
[11:00] <SilentDrgn> How stable is the Ubuntu 12.04 beta?
[11:01] <ikonia> SilentDrgn: not stable, it's a beta
[11:01] <bc81> tomek_: there is BUM
[11:01] <d00de> tomek_: Services can be configured by clicking System -> Administration -> Services. A tool called Boot-Up Manager is also available.
[11:01] <Rods_Tiger> this is a core2duo, which one of these do I run? burnBX, burnK6, burnK7, burnMMX, burnP5, burnP6
[11:02] <winnie667> if i simply remove "ocal-filesystems and net-device-up"   from:    start on (local-filesystems and net-device-up)      in /etc/init/smbd.conf             will that simply stop samba from autostarting unless "service smbd start" is executed?
[11:02] <SilentDrgn> Understandable. I've seen some solid betas and then some disasters. Curious how far along this was.
[11:02] <_rahmat_> hi everyone. i'm using quickly in ubuntu 10.04 and following video tutorial in http://developer.ubuntu.com everything work fine, until I type quickly package, quickly get error with error message "An error has occured during package building ERROR: package command failed Aborting" here is screenshot of quickly http://paste.ubuntu.com/826217/ . Any idea? thanks
[11:06] <Rods_Tiger> I'm running burnBX but it's only running one core. Same as burnMMX and burnP6
[11:07] <Rods_Tiger> oh well, I'll just run burnBX until the place heats up to an acceptable level.
[11:08] <bc81> Rods_Tiger: are you serious?  do some pushups ;P
[11:08] <d00de> Rods_Tiger: try Mprime
[11:08] <Rods_Tiger> mprime? OK
[11:09] <d00de> yup, it should give some decent work to those cores :D
[11:09] <_Ethan_> a dot before the file name indicates hidden archie?
[11:09] <_Ethan_> *archive
[11:09] <_Ethan_> like .bashrc+
[11:09] <_Ethan_> like .bashrc
[11:09] <FloodBot1> _Ethan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:09] <_Ethan_> :S
[11:10] <d00de> dot before file indicates hidden file
[11:10] <Rods_Tiger> mprime doesn't work, I type ecm but it wants arguments, but the --help doesn't say what to type.
[11:12] <_Ethan_> d00de, thanks
[11:12] <_Ethan_> how could i see them in terminal ?
[11:12] <d00de> ls -alh
[11:12] <_Ethan_> perfect
[11:12] <ksinkar> what driver is nearest to the cannon MF4320 series for ubuntu?
[11:14] <d00de> Rods_Tiger: here's a tarball
[11:14] <d00de> just extract it and run Mprime
[11:14] <d00de> http://mersenneforum.org/gimps/mprime259.tar.gz
[11:15] <planet> ko
[11:16] <almoxarife> ksinkar: http://www.ubun2.com/question/387/canon_mf4350d_laser_printer_64bit_driver_ubuntu_or_linux
[11:16] <g105b> What are the segments of an IP address called? 192.168.0.105 - what is 105? is it an octal?
[11:18] <oCean> g105b: octet, but note there is ##networking for such specific questions
[11:19] <g105b> ok thanks
[11:20] <bc81> g105b: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot-decimal_notation#IPv4_address
[11:23] <wookienz> how can i tell what codec an avi fle has been encoded in?
[11:24] <iceroot> wookienz: maybe "file filename.avi"
[11:25] <TheUser_> hi guys could anyone gaz why my fresh ubuntu 11.10 instatalltion , updated, freez the mouse courser ?
[11:25] <wookienz> iceroot: yeah doubt that one.
[11:28] <bc81> wookienz: you can use mediainfo for that
[11:29] <wookienz> thanks. found that vlc supports fourcc details
[11:30] <Savvis> anyone heard of Hiawatha?
[11:31] <Tomie> anyone know where ZLIB is installed to? the path to ZLIB? i'm installing something and getting "specify zlib directory"
[11:32] <osse> I just installed Ubuntu Server but I can't connect to the internet. I can tell from the LEDs that the link is up and there is traffic. I suspect that it is some kind of Windows domain controller thingy that is blocking me. How can I go about finding out if this is in fact the case?
[11:33] <Chotaz_> I have 2 folders on my desktop: "bak" and "bak2", each of them as a number of folders inside, I want to move all the folders that are inside "bak2" from there to "bak", how can I accomplish so via terminal?
[11:33] <solofight> people i screwed my desktop by changing some settings. Now there is no title bar present in any of the windows which is getting opened. How do i completely remove my gnome and reinstall it ?
[11:37] <spesh> Chotaz, mv bak2/* bak/
[11:37] <spesh> solofight, did you mess about with compizconfig-settings-manager
[11:37] <solofight> yes - i think so
[11:38] <spesh> Open a terminal Ctrl-Alt-T
[11:38] <solofight> spesh, instead of reinstalling the same version i though il install the latest one
[11:38] <solofight> was reading http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-GNOME-3-on-Ubuntu-11-04-194085.shtml
[11:38] <spesh> and type unity --reset
[11:38] <solofight> what do you say ?
[11:40] <spesh> solofight, are you using gnome-shell
[11:40] <solofight> spesh, yes i opened gnome-terminal
[11:40] <spesh> no, gnome-shell instaed of unity?
[11:41] <solofight> spesh, hwo do i check it ?
[11:41] <solofight> how*
[11:41] <spesh> solofight, log out and click the cog wheel thing next to your username, choose ubuntu and log in
[11:41] <spesh> is the problem still there
[11:41] <solofight> spesh yes i did that
[11:41] <solofight> yeah
[11:42] <Myrtti> !gnome3 | solofight, you are aware that Gnome3 is not supported in 11.04
[11:42] <dr_willis> they really should make that cog more obvious. 90% of the login screen is just empty space
[11:43] <solofight> ooh
[11:43] <bonhoeffer> i can't remove my ssh identity with ssh-add -d
[11:43] <dr_willis> if you want gnome shell you definatly want the latest ubuntu.
[11:44] <solofight> dr_willis, so a dist upgrade will do ?
[11:44] <bonhoeffer> i get Identity removed: ../../id_rsa but it is still there
[11:44] <bonhoeffer> is there a better room for ssh questions?
[11:45] <dr_willis>  i akways do a clean install solofight
[11:45] <solofight> dr_willis, you mean you delete the existing and install from the new image ? ! ! !  WHat about all your softwares, documents and other stuff ?
[11:45] <dr_willis> solofight:  you can upgrade to the later releases
[11:46] <dr_willis> solofight: mt /home is on its own partition
[11:46] <justin______> yes a clean install is more stable
[11:46] <dr_willis> trivial foe me to do a clean install
[11:46] <justin______> dr_willis, ur /home is on its own partition? are u kidding, how do u pull that off? lol
[11:46] <dr_willis> takes about an hr
[11:47] <justin______> i never even thought of that :)
[11:47] <justin______> and what about reinstalling
[11:47] <justin______> u have to do it per install?
[11:47] <dr_willis> my home is actually on its own 3tb hd.
[11:47] <justin______> per clean install?
[11:47] <justin______> yeah i figured u'd throw it on your own drive
[11:47] <justin______> its quite genious in some ways actually
[11:47] <dr_willis> home on its iwn part. is commonplace
[11:47] <solofight> dr_willis, not that technically knowledgeable i am - can you please explain more ? if i copy the entiire /home from here and paste it after installing new version - then i get back all my stuff ?
[11:47] <dr_willis> !movehome
[11:48] <solofight> dr_willis, what about installed softwares ? i have so much stuff distributed like in /var/ and /opt/ ...etc
[11:48] <solofight> how do i get them up together ?
[11:49] <dr_willis> i just  tell the installer where my home is at. and to not format it. rather trivial to do
[11:49] <dr_willis> solofight: what stuff exactly
[11:49] <dr_willis> !clone
[11:50] <solofight> dr_willis, developed web applications which are at /var
[11:50] <solofight> and tools like jmeter at /opt
[11:50] <dr_willis> back it up. restore
[11:51] <solofight> how do i back up apache, mysql, ..etc ?
[11:51] <solofight> all seperately ?
[11:51] <ikonia> solofight: the content or the applications ?
[11:51] <dr_willis> you coult put /opt on its own part. :-)
[11:51] <solofight> ikonia, both
[11:51] <iceroot> solofight: mysql with mysqldump, apache with a backup of your files e.g. in /var/www/
[11:51] <ikonia> solofight: well, I don't see ap oint in backing up the actual applications
[11:51] <dr_willis> no ned tobackup the apps.
[11:51] <solofight> iceroot, configurations
[11:51] <dr_willis> reinstall them
[11:51] <ikonia> solofight: but the content just tar up the content and mysqldump as iceroot said the databases
[11:52] <solofight> dr_willis, ouch reinstall all apps !
[11:52] <iceroot> solofight: /etc/mysql/my.cnf and /etc/apache2/*
[11:52] <solofight> why do you people say fresh install is better ?
[11:52] <dr_willis> solofight:  trivial for me . see that !clone factoid
[11:52] <iceroot> solofight: only some do, fresh install is not needed if you want a newer ubuntu version
[11:53] <dr_willis> i see too many upgrade ussues in here daily..
[11:53] <iceroot> solofight: but a backup is always a good idea (not only for upgrade)
[11:53] <Naeblis> Hi. It seems Ubuntu has stopped recognizing my router and sound cards. I had recently updated using a new sources.list that someone here provided me(mine had security disabled, I think). Any ideas?
[11:53] <iceroot> dr_willis: mostly because they do strange ppa stuff on there system
[11:53] <solofight> dr_willis, yeah saw that - but too complex to understand for me :(
[11:53] <iceroot> dr_willis: default systems should not have issues on upgrade (its tested during an alpha/beta phase)
[11:54] <dr_willis> i beta test a LOT. so a clean install helps me clean house also
[11:54] <iceroot> dr_willis: thats correct
[11:54] <solofight> dr_willis, can you please exaplin the !clone factiod ?
[11:55] <iceroot> i guess my systems is gone from 10.04 to 12.04 though every release
[11:55] <S-I> http://imgur.com/a/OMFkK#0
[11:55] <S-I> winning streak :D
[11:55] <S-I> winning
[11:55] <dr_willis> solofight:  it makes a file list of your instslled apps you reinstall from
[11:55] <iceroot> S-I: no need that here
[11:55] <RadiumCat> hello, i'm looking for an image viewer that has the ability to fetch image from a direct URL link to the image, instead of opening the browser everytime someone posts an image link on IRC. is there any such tool out there? :)
[11:56] <iceroot> RadiumCat: shotwell can do that (imo) but its not primary a viewer, more of a collection
[11:56] <dr_willis> RadiumCat:  script one in your irc client. :-)
[11:56] <RadiumCat> iceroot: thanks kindly :)
[11:56] <RadiumCat> dr_willis: i use weechat :p
[11:57] <dr_willis> shouldbe easy then
[11:57] <iceroot> then you love the shell and scripting :)
[11:57] <RadiumCat> indeed :)
[11:58] <dr_willis> the tinyurl scripts for weechat maybe a good starting point
[11:58] <RadiumCat> interesting, i think i have it installed
[11:58] <RadiumCat> will have a look
[11:59] <dr_willis> i use weechat but dont code mych
[11:59] <mrgaddy> hey people, what do u think about raspberry pi?
[11:59] <_Ethan_> i am reading things like "Make sure that zpu-elf-gcc is in your $PATH."
[11:59] <RadiumCat> ok i have to go :)
[11:59] <RadiumCat> thanks
[11:59] <dr_willis> mrgaddy:  i want 3...
[11:59] <_Ethan_> is it $PATH bash language ?
[12:00] <Marezz> Anyone here using shutter?
[12:00] <dr_willis> its a bash variable
[12:00] <dr_willis> echo $PATH
[12:03] <mehrdad> yo u guys brag too much about linux stability that it makes u look silly
[12:03] <mehrdad> it jsut fuckung crashed
[12:03] <oCean> mehrdad: control your language here, please
[12:03] <dr_willis> mehrdad:  so ....
[12:03] <mehrdad> and i lost things that i cant get back right now
[12:03] <mehrdad> and i am in a hurry right now
[12:03] <mehrdad> give me a solution
[12:04] <oCean> mehrdad: I don't think that attitude is going to help you here
[12:04] <dr_willis> learn to save every 5 min
[12:04] <mehrdad> the piece of shit terminal has no save feature
[12:04] <mehrdad> ok politeness?
[12:05] <dr_willis> wonder what he lost then...
[12:05] <mehrdad> ok the terminal lost all the history
[12:05] <mehrdad> what do i do?
[12:05] <dr_willis> you mean your bash history?
[12:05] <mehrdad> it was important enough anyway for me to rage out
[12:05] <mehrdad> yes bash
[12:06] <mehrdad> it crashed and everything went away on the terminal
[12:06] <cromag> so when you write "history" everything is gone ?
[12:06] <mehrdad> how can i get it back politely?
[12:06] <dr_willis> its in ram untill bash exits and saves it to disk i think
[12:06] <cromag> ah
[12:06] <mehrdad> heh awesome then
[12:06] <Naeblis> so uhh, I'll try again.
[12:06] <Naeblis> Hi. It seems Ubuntu has stopped recognizing my router and sound cards. I had recently updated using a new sources.list that someone here provided me(mine had security disabled, I think). Any ideas?
[12:07] <dr_willis> be carefull when running several terminals also
[12:07] <dr_willis> history file is shared i recall
[12:08] <dr_willis> typescript command can log a bash session if you want a perment record of it.
[12:09] <virtuaposta> hi all..!! how to change user password from client machine? what command to use to change the user password getting authenticated against openldap?
[12:09] <bonhoeffer> any idea how to remove an ssh identity in ubuntu?
[12:09] <bonhoeffer> ssh-add -d doesn't do it
[12:11] <iceroot> !work | bonhoeffer
[12:12] <bonhoeffer> ssh-add -D reports: All identities removed. ssh-add -l shows all identities still there, iceroot
[12:12] <mehrdad> i can't get the command back now anyway, it was an rdesktop ip address, is it logged anywhere?
[12:12] <mehrdad> by any chance?
[12:14] <mehrdad> is it in the firewall log for instance?
[12:14] <[twisti]> hi, i have a folder where all files look like this in ll/ln -s
[12:14] <[twisti]> -????????? ? ? ? ?                ? configuration.txt
[12:14] <[twisti]> -????????? ? ? ? ?                ? custom-lightings.txt
[12:14] <[twisti]> -????????? ? ? ? ?                ? custom-perspectives.txt
[12:14] <EdwardIII> if i commit to ubuntu 10.x LTS am i going to get attacked from the back soon - it must be coming up to time for another LTS release?
[12:15] <bluenemo> hi guys, i've just installed gfxboot but i cant find the executable.. its not in path and wont show up on locate (after updatedb)..
[12:15] <oCean> EdwardIII: next april release Precise/12.04 will be LTS
[12:16] <mehrdad> where is the firewall log saved? :/;
[12:18] <scruff>  /var/log
[12:19] <EdwardIII> what's the general feeling about ubuntu LTS on a server?
[12:20] <mehrdad> scruff: file name?
[12:20] <iceroot> EdwardIII: if you want ubuntu then lts is the best for a server
[12:20] <oCean> EdwardIII: LTS in server edition comes with 5 years of support
[12:20] <fidel> EdwardIII: works fine here
[12:20] <oCean> EdwardIII: specific server support/discussion is in channel #ubuntu-server though
[12:20] <iceroot> EdwardIII: if you want a ultra-stable system (with older software) i guess having a look at debian stable is a good idea too
[12:20] <EdwardIII> ah OK
[12:20] <EdwardIII> well i want something with at least python 2.7 out of the box
[12:21] <mehrdad> ufw scruff ?
[12:21] <iceroot> !info python lucid
[12:21] <iceroot> !info python2.7 lucid
[12:21] <iceroot> EdwardIII: only 2.6 on 10.04
[12:22] <Chotaz_> !info python2.7 oneiric
[12:22] <mehrdad> scruff: where is it? what's the file name? ufw.log is empty
[12:22] <mehrdad> :(
[12:23] <scruff> mehrdad, what firewall software are you using?
[12:23] <oCean> EdwardIII: 12.04 will come with 2.7
[12:23] <mehrdad> what comes built in
[12:23] <oCean> mehrdad: by default the firewall is disabled
[12:23] <mehrdad> nooo :(
[12:24] <oCean> yes
[12:24] <iceroot> EdwardIII: 12.04 is the next lts release, ready in april 2012
[12:24] <iceroot> EdwardIII: on a server (reachable through the internet) i would suggest only use ubuntu lts or debian stable
[12:24] <mehrdad> so i am screwed :|
[12:25] <Chotaz_> No SSL on ubuntu's website?
[12:25] <mehrdad> why is it disabled anyway?
[12:25] <iceroot> Chotaz_: why need ssl there?
[12:25] <crizzy> why would there be ssl?
[12:25] <mehrdad> oCean: no chance the ip is saved somewhere?
[12:25] <crizzy> waste of bandwidth, browsers don't cache items over ssl
[12:25] <MerlynKorr> can a person install debian onto a usb stick and have it install on the computer it was downloaded from?
[12:26] <iceroot> Chotaz_: you only need ssl if you have logins like the ubuntu forums, launchpad and so on
[12:26] <iceroot> MerlynKorr: #debian
[12:26] <krised> iceroot hy man. Thanks for all your help the past days. i FINALLY found the problem. or rather a solution.. ive been removing lightDm for GDM but that made my remastersys crash. However keeping LightDM works perfectly
[12:26] <oCean> mehrdad: you are looking for an ipaddress you used in a command earlier? If you lost your command history, there's no other record of it
[12:26] <iceroot> krised: nice to hear
[12:26] <MerlynKorr> ty iceroot.
[12:26] <mehrdad> damn
[12:28] <MerlynKorr> as well, i had a problem that was assisted by one of you guys and i wanted to thank you all and recognize for that assistance so, thanks...
[12:29] <MerlynKorr> it was really appreciated...
[12:30] <MerlynKorr> see ya guys.
[12:30] <linux> dfdf
[12:31] <krised> iceroot uhmm i know its more a #bash question but do you know how to direct keyboard input into a variable ? im listing some options in a script and the user has to pick from 1-9 and i need to have that input select an options based on number.
[12:32] <EdwardIII> i've mostly used centos before, but it's a pain - i always have to compile a custom perl and a custom python
[12:32] <EdwardIII> because the packages are just so damn old
[12:33] <iceroot> krised: hm, i think something with read but i dont know, sorry
[12:33] <iceroot> krised: maybe #bash
[12:35] <prabuvathur> hello all, salam sejahtera
[12:35] <Pumpkin-> yeah, just read VARIABLE
[12:36] <Pumpkin-> ie. read FOO<enter>BAR<enter>echo $FOO<enter> produces BAR
[12:36] <prabuvathur> kok sepi yah
[12:37] <theadmin> prabuvathur: English here, please.
[12:38] <EdwardIII> i guess 2.7 is a lot better than centos' 2.4
[12:39] <a> server irc.efnet.pl
[12:40] <EdwardIII> 2.6 rather
[12:40] <Steamopunk> Having some trouble getting MySQL started on 11.10. http://paste.ubuntu.com/826275/
[12:41] <bytesofbinary> I haven't run my computer for 3 days. And now after I boot up, Ubuntu has become very slow due to no reason and Fedora doesn't boot?
[12:42] <justin______> bytesofbinary, sounds like it could be a hard drive problem,
[12:42] <theadmin> bytesofbinary: Damaged hard drive?
[12:42] <justin______> 3 days non use, corrosion, dust, keep it on
[12:42] <bytesofbinary> How do I know if its a damaged hard drive? Its not giving the disk fail warning
[12:43] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: ok - define doesn't boot
[12:43] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: you need to give us info
[12:43] <mehrdad> run Windows for the same time period byoungmn
[12:43] <mehrdad> sorry bytesofbinary
[12:43] <justin______> u could run an fsck
[12:43] <ikonia> justin______: why - what will that do for him ?
[12:44] <Culiforge> I installed a Geforce 8400gs and now my 10.04 won't boot, is there any wisdom here?
[12:44] <justin______> check and repair the linux file system
[12:44] <justin______> if needed
[12:44] <ikonia> justin______: who says it's got a problem ?
[12:44] <justin______> plus the heads will clean the dirt off a bit
[12:44] <bytesofbinary> I checked the fedora filesystem and it says clean
[12:44] <ikonia> justin______: it's performing "slow" and Fedora won't boot
[12:44] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: what's the actual issue
[12:44] <bytesofbinary> ikonia: doesn't boot means it gets stuck at the "F" boot screen
[12:44] <theadmin> justin______: ikonia is right, there is absolutely no reason for fsck'ing the drive if it boots... Speed has nothing to do with filesystem sanity at all
[12:45] <justin______> there's no diagnosis yet, this is just a try
[12:45] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: turn off the boot splash and see what's going on
[12:45] <justin______> for the fedora machine its possible
[12:45] <justin______> fedora partition
[12:45] <ikonia> justin______: trying random things for no reason is not how to resolve an issue
[12:46] <bytesofbinary> ikonia: everything goes fine as expected, and when its supposed to display gdm, it says something about about virtualbox kernel modules succesfully loaded and just sits there
[12:46] <justin______> educated guess ykno
[12:46] <justin______> its got me out of hot spots
[12:46] <justin______> just sayin
[12:46] <ikonia> justin______: no it didn't
[12:46] <ikonia> justin______: he's explained the problem - fsck will do nothing
[12:46] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: ok - and what about the ubuntu boot ?
[12:46] <theadmin> bytesofbinary: Virtualbox? Are you running it in virutalbox?
[12:47] <justin______> alright, sorry matt
[12:47] <bytesofbinary> ikonia: ubuntu boot goes well, but its become very VERY slow, like when I run sudo apt-get update. It takes 20 mins to finish updating a SINGLE package
[12:47] <bytesofbinary> theadmin: No. I have Vbox installed
[12:47] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: ok, we need to sort your definitions out
[12:48] <leifw> what debugging or logging things can I install or enable to diagnose random lockups/crashes?
[12:48] <theadmin> bytesofbinary: Is everything slow, or just APT?
[12:48] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: 1.) "slow" needs to be explained, is it network slow, slow moving the mouse around, slow to process tasks ?
[12:48] <leifw> that is, entire system lockups/crashes
[12:48] <quiescens> if you suspect drive failure or near failure you could boot a livecd and check the drive's SMART readings, but they may or may not indicate anything useful (rather, if it says bad things then it probably could be drive related, but if it doesn't, it doesn't neccesarily mean it isn't drive related)
[12:48]  * quiescens shrugs.
[12:48] <bytesofbinary> ikonia: slow means slow processing tasks.
[12:48] <mehrdad> why did my system crash anyway?! :/
[12:48] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: can you give me an example of a task it's slow processing ?
[12:48] <bytesofbinary> theadmin: apps are slow. display is fine
[12:48] <mehrdad> i wasnt doing any serious low-level stuff
[12:49] <mehrdad> just a few terminals and a rdesktop session
[12:49] <leifw> only happens during intensive cpu/gpu work, don't think it's drives
[12:49] <mehrdad> suddenly thr keyboard stopped working
[12:49] <leifw> I'd like at least to see if the kernel prints anything like a bug or panic
[12:49] <subb1>  hi all. reading "partition mounting" and related sections, have a doubt.
[12:49] <bytesofbinary> ikonia: suppose I open update manager and there's 1 package updte of 50KB, it took me 20 mins for updating that!! Another example would be libreoffice, menus show up a long time after I press them etc.
[12:50] <mehrdad> and after a ctrl-alt-f1 and back to gui, it crashed
[12:50] <subb1> what setting makes usb drives and cdrom to get automounted? at the moment they are plugged in? I use lucid.
[12:50] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: ok - can you please open a terminal (are you comfortable doing that ?)
[12:50] <leifw> when it does this, I can't get to a tty or ssh in at all
[12:50] <bytesofbinary> ikonia: yea sure
[12:50] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: ok, open a terminal and type "top"
[12:50] <Pharaoh> Hello everyone.
[12:51] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: let me know when you are ready
[12:51] <bytesofbinary> ikonia: did
[12:51] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: ok press "1" you should see the number of CPU's increase in the list
[12:51] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: can you see that you should have cpu0 cpu1 etc listed
[12:51] <bytesofbinary> ikonia: yea 4 cpus listed
[12:52] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: great, so next to them you should see %us yes/no ?
[12:52] <mehrdad> is kde more stable than unity?
[12:52] <jatt> yes
[12:52] <ikonia> mehrdad: no
[12:52] <bytesofbinary> ikonia: there is no yes or no here :O
[12:52] <mehrdad> because i am can witness it is faulty
[12:53] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: I meant can you see %us next to each CPU yes or no
[12:53] <bytesofbinary> ikonia: sorry. misread. yes I do.
[12:53] <jatt> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/648180
[12:53] <leifw> so, panic and BUG kernel messages, where are they sent?
[12:53] <bytesofbinary> ikonia: usage seems okay. ~3% now
[12:53] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: great, that is the ammount of CPU in use, bellow that you should see a line saying "mem" and then a line next to that saying "free"
[12:54] <mehrdad> ikonia: the keyboard didnt work in gui
[12:54] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: thats ok - just confirm you can see the memory lines and we'll do some quick high level tests
[12:54] <ikonia> mehrdad: why are you telling me ?
[12:54] <theadmin> jatt: Nothing really is an adequate replacement for Gnome2. Their fault for abandoning it.
[12:54] <mehrdad> and worked in terminal
[12:54] <bytesofbinary> ikonia: Mem:   2046776k total,  1388888k used,   657888k free
[12:54] <jatt> xfce is an adequate replacement for gnome2
[12:54] <kwtm2> Someone please remind me: how do I tell what type of filesystem an external drive has? (using command line).  I plugged in a drive and the "mount" command said "fuseblk" --I was looking for whether it's vfat (and therefore readable by a Windows PC) or whether it's ext3/reiserfs (and therefore usable only by Linux).
[12:54] <mehrdad> you said no to my question
[12:54] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: ok - great, so now you know where you are looking
[12:54] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: I want you to run update-manager as you did earlier, and watch what happens
[12:55] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: there will be a little spike of activity, so don't worry, but does anything go high and stay high for a long period of time
[12:55] <bytesofbinary> ikonia: okay. let me check
[12:55] <leifw> kwtm2, palimpsest should tell you easily
[12:55] <ubukou> hey folks
[12:55] <kwtm2> leifw: Thx, will try.
[12:55] <quiescens> kwtm2: i like to do sudo file -s (device), eg: sudo file -s /dev/sdb1 (or whatever the mounted device is)
[12:55] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: this is just a high level test - not conclusive, so don't worry about what you see, just tell me honestly what you notice
[12:56] <mehrdad> there's a window focus issue in unity among other things
[12:56] <mehrdad> right now i have bash in the background and its title bar is 'active' :|
[12:56] <bytesofbinary> ikonia: 2046776k total,  1512620k used,   534156k free - that's while update manager was checking for updates
[12:56] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: how about the cpu
[12:57] <bytesofbinary> ikonia:cpu was ~6%
[12:57] <mehrdad> anybody else notices this?
[12:57] <kwtm2> quiescens: Thx. WIll try.
[12:57] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: ok - so looking at that your machine is not stressed, it's not hanging on an open process that's eating resources, nothing like this
[12:57] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: agree based on what you've just shown me ?
[12:57] <bytesofbinary> ikonia: well, yes.
[12:58] <S-I> it doesnt matter how many dragons you kill it matters who brings home the princess
[12:58] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: ok - so the next line of thinking is the visual graphics performance is poor, this can be caused by a badly configured video card.
[12:58] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: a lot of time the desktop seems to respond slow, and it's fine, but the video drawing is poor making it look like the machine is lagging
[12:58] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: understand ?
[12:58] <ubukou> does anyone have any idea about theming ubuntu ?
[12:58] <bytesofbinary> ikonia: oh. I get it.
[12:59] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: so it looks like it's running slow, slow to respond to mouse clicks etc etc, but actually it's fine, it's just slow video drawing/interaction
[12:59] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: what video card do you have in the machine ?
[12:59] <bytesofbinary> ikonia: Intel G33
[13:00] <bytesofbinary> ikonia: its inbuilt with my motherboard
[13:00] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: ok, the intels are normally very good on autodetect / configuring
[13:00] <ubukou> i recolored gtk but emesene still has the same colors ... interestingly enough the background changes colors but the font stayed the same..
[13:00] <ubukou> any ideas?
[13:00] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: before we go any further is there anything you can tell me about your machine that may have changed ?
[13:01] <bytesofbinary> ikonia: didn't have this problem earlier. But when I go to system info on ubuntu. it says graphics unknown, while GNOME3 fedora showed intel g33 when it used to boot
[13:01] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: ok - I'm not sweating too hard on that, but lets try a few things
[13:01] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: do you have a file called xorg.conf in the directory /etc/X11 ?
[13:02] <bytesofbinary> ikonia: apparently, I don't
[13:03] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: thats ok
[13:03] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: I didn't expect you to have one
[13:03] <ubukou> i recolored gtk but emesene still has the same colors ... interestingly enough the background changes colors but the font stayed the same..anyone expirienced in here to lend me a hand?
[13:03] <bytesofbinary> ikonia: oh
[13:03] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: what I think is worth trying here, is forcing your xorg to use the "intel" xorg driver
[13:03] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: agree ?
[13:03] <bytesofbinary> ikonia: yes.
[13:04] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: ok, now we have to generate an xorg.conf with a minimal set of details (anything that's missing xorg auto configures/detects, that's why you've not got a file)
[13:04] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: we just want to force the hardcoding of video cards xorg driver, understand ?
[13:04] <bytesofbinary> ikonia: yes, okay.
[13:05] <ubukou> anyone using emesene ?
[13:05] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: ok, I'm going to pastebin a file (may need a few goes at this as I'm a bit rusty) that should hoepfully by enough to get your card running
[13:05] <Steamopunk> Having some trouble getting MySQL started on 11.10. http://paste.ubuntu.com/826275/
[13:06] <bytesofbinary> ikonia: that's would be fine. thank you!
[13:06] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: ok look at this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/826327/
[13:06] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: put that into the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:06] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: (note the keyboard is set to GB as that's mine, but we can change that later, this is just a test)
[13:06] <bytesofbinary> ikonia: okay. let me try.
[13:06] <reCAPTCHA> Hey all.. so, I am running ubuntu and my parents need help on their windows machine.... can someone recommend to me a free (open source preferrably, but not required) VNC program that even my aged parents can install and use?
[13:07] <Steamopunk> reCAPTCHA - TightVNC has always been super easy for me.
[13:07] <bytesofbinary> ikonia: created the file. now?
[13:08] <reCAPTCHA> For computer illiterate old people?
[13:08] <reCAPTCHA> Steamopunk: ^^^^^^
[13:08] <Steamopunk> reCPTCHA - Yeah, should definitely be. Everything it says is super simple. As long as they don't try to connect to anything (as from your post I imagine you're connecting to them), then they don't even really need to know what an ipaddress is
[13:08] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: ok, now reboot and cross your fingers
[13:09] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: just to confirm the file is called xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[13:09] <bytesofbinary> ikonia: small"x". I named it Xorg.conf
[13:09] <bytesofbinary> ikonia: do I rename it?
[13:09] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: yes, xorg.conf not Xorg.conf
[13:09] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: and it's /etc/X11 not /etc/x11
[13:09] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: so /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:09] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: got it ?
[13:10] <bytesofbinary> ikonia: yea. folder is okay. renamed. now rebooting and reporting back. thanx.
[13:10] <vlyalcin> hii, what is the name of the GUI user management tools of the UBUNTU?
[13:11] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: lets see what happens, if it doesn't start properly, don't worry, it's all easy to fix
[13:11] <ikonia> vlyalcin: which tools ?
[13:11] <vlyalcin> ikonia: user management, administrator in 10.10 by default
[13:11] <ikonia> ooh good question
[13:11] <porkchop85> Hi anyone here work with PXE
[13:12] <ikonia> yes
[13:12] <ikonia> many times
[13:12] <reCAPTCHA> Thanks Steamopunk... for some reason none of my family or friends that use Linux ask me for help... always the mac and windows users.... hmm... why is that? Thanks again.
[13:12] <porkchop85> I have a dell optiplex that wont PXE boot it will pxe boot if i run an Ipxe boot disk
[13:12] <Steamopunk> reCAPTCHA - No problem :)
[13:13] <porkchop85> is that a firmware issue or a driver issue in the kernel
[13:13] <ikonia> porkchop85: nothing to do with linux as at that point you're not booting linux, you're pxe booting from the cards firmware
[13:13] <mk0> where is alpha 2?
[13:13] <porkchop85> is there a way to flash the firmware then
[13:14] <ikonia> porkchop85: there used to be an old bug on dells that needed to be upgraded, but I've not seen it for a long long time
[13:14] <bytesofbinary> ikonia: I love you man!! My problem is solved! :D
[13:14] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: excellent
[13:14] <porkchop85> Iknoia: its a brand new optiplex 390 :(
[13:14] <bytesofbinary> ikonia: But I need to change the keyboard right?
[13:14] <porkchop85> I have 79 of them
[13:14] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: glad it worked
[13:14] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: what language keyboard do you have
[13:14] <Steamopunk> Having some trouble getting MySQL started on 11.10. http://paste.ubuntu.com/826275/
[13:14] <ikonia> porkchop85: hence my surprise
[13:14] <bytesofbinary> ikonia: us international
[13:14] <porkchop85> haha
[13:14] <ikonia> porkchop85: it's a very very old bug that I've not seen on anything modern for a long time
[13:15] <ikonia> porkchop85: as I recall it was on broadcom cards
[13:15] <Squall5668> hey guys, i tried installing ubuntu in an old proliant blade, but monitor goes out of range in grub after boot, any tips? i can boot it with a CD
[13:15] <Squall5668> and after boot i meant
[13:15] <porkchop85> I had to deal with broadcoms with ghost years ago
[13:15] <porkchop85> this has a realtek
[13:15] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: either remove the keyboard line inthe config or change it to us
[13:15] <ikonia> porkchop85: it may have been realtek, it's been a long long time since I saw it
[13:15] <niklashaar> suche deutsche hilfe
[13:15] <bytesofbinary> ikonia: okay, thanx a ton!!
[13:16] <ikonia> porkchop85: best suggestion (seriously) is contact dell and just confirm it
[13:16] <ikonia> porkchop85: this used to be well known with dells but I've not seen it for such a long time, I'm quite surprised
[13:16] <ikonia> bytesofbinary: no problem, glad you're sorted
[13:16] <ikonia> fsck....honestly.
[13:17] <niklashaar> I have a problem with the instalation off ubuntu
[13:17] <porkchop85> Gotta love dell
[13:17] <quiescens> Steamopunk: how do you know it isn't started?
[13:18] <vlyalcin> hii, what is the name of the GUI user management tools of the UBUNTU 10.10 by default?
[13:18] <ikonia> porkchop85: I'm quite surprised by what you are saying, but I suspect dell can either update you/confirm the problem quite easy for you
[13:19] <niklashaar> when is instal ubuntu over windows and reboot it was a messeng no root system
[13:19] <porkchop85> Ikonia: why are you surprised
[13:19] <ikonia> porkchop85: because that problem disappeared a long time ago
[13:20] <porkchop85> Ikonia: well the only other thing could be that I have messed up something somehow
[13:20] <porkchop85> Ikonia: but my optiplex 740s are pxe booting just fine
[13:20] <ikonia> porkchop85: based on the fact that it also boots with ipxe suggests you are setup fine, and this is also the exact same situation I used to see
[13:20] <niklashaar> when i go over the ubuntu demo mode an install ubuntu he show me only one paration and this is my HDD over 750 Gb
[13:21] <erkules> moin is there a easy way to get the 'hierarchy' upstarts starts the scripts? booting 11.10 hangs after "FS-Cache: Netfs 'nfs' registered for cachning"
[13:21] <porkchop85> Ikonia: I am going to call dell and see if I can get a flash utility for the card then I could put ipxe right into the card
[13:21] <ikonia> porkchop85: they probably have an update to allow it to just straight pxe
[13:22] <porkchop85> Iknoia: Thanks for your help I appreciate it!
[13:22] <ikonia> welcome
[13:23] <subb1> I use lucid. How to disable colors when I use 'vi'. Its there by default.
[13:25] <Steamopunk> quiesens - Sorry about that, work pulled me away. I don't know it isn't started, but shouldn't it be listening on a port if it is?
[13:25] <propokr> Good day
[13:25] <Naeblis> I'm getting a "General Protection Fault: 0000 [#1] SMP." Googled around, but haven't found a solution for this.
[13:26] <quiescens> Steamopunk: i believe the default configuration is to listen on local socket only
[13:28] <Steamopunk> quiescens - Checking the config file now, I'll let you know what I find.
[13:28] <Steamopunk> quiescens - I do have it bound to it's current IP address, not localhost/127.0.0.1
[13:31] <quiescens> Steamopunk: maybe check log files or "ps ax | grep mysql" in a terminal to see whether its running instead
[13:32] <oscar76> hi everybody!  how can I tell wich runlevel is a system running?  I dont remember
[13:32] <Steamopunk> quiescens - No idea what the ps command does, but here was it's output http://paste.ubuntu.com/826359/
[13:33] <frogzoo> oscar76: runlevel would you believe?
[13:33] <Steamopunk> Oh, looked it up. That makes sense, I suppose.
[13:33] <Naeblis> Okay. I don't know what's going on. I keep getting weird errors. After updating yesterday, I first lost my network connection, my audio, and some applets on the panel were also gone. Ubuntu has also been randomly crashing and throwing large error messages at me that I don't know how to read. The latest one was about the general protection fault 0000 SMP. Also, I keep getting logged out of X randomly. Please help. I have no idea what's going on.
[13:34] <JermBob> Naeblis format and reinstall
[13:35] <Naeblis> JermBob, no other option? :(
[13:35] <quiescens> Steamopunk: maybe have a look at the logs in /var/log/mysql to see if there are any important errors
[13:36] <grummund> Hi, Is there another place than /etc/network/interfaces where eth0 and wlan1 are configured?
[13:37] <biopyte> hi, i want to replace icedtea-java with sun-java ... is there a official recommendation how to do it?
[13:38] <oscar76> frogzoo: I know is one between 2 to 5, but Im not sure which is it
[13:38] <Steamopunk> quiescens - This looked important. Ignore the date and time because this same sequence repeates every couple minutes. http://paste.ubuntu.com/826365/
[13:39] <terry> hello
[13:39] <bullgard4> How to decompress a .gz file using mc?
[13:40] <terry> Как устанавливать приложения в ubuntu если оно заархивиравано в tar.zip ?
[13:40] <bullgard4> ru! | terry
[13:40] <bullgard4> !ru | terry
[13:41] <quiescens> Steamopunk: well, do you already have something running on the port you told it to use?
[13:41] <quiescens> Steamopunk: i guess that's what its saying
[13:41] <Steamopunk> quiescens - I thought that, but I can't think of what it is. I don't have any FTP server software installed. Unless some came with 11.10 that I'm not aware of
[13:41] <oscar76> ok, I tried  "runlevel" and it says "N 2", what does it mean?
[13:44] <JonathanEllis> Good afternoon. Does anyone know of a twin-display PCMCIA graphics card for a laptop that Ubuntu supports?
[13:44] <ikonia> JonathanEllis: I've never even heard of pcmcia graphics cards
[13:45] <iceroot> JonathanEllis: there are usb-vga-adapters but never heard of pcmcia too
[13:45] <bullgard4> oscar76: Read 'man runlevel'.
[13:45] <quiescens> Steamopunk: why are you trying to run it on port 21 anyway? well you can "sudo netstat -lnp | grep 21" to try to find out what is running on the port
[13:45] <ubukou> hey folks , is there a way to upgrade distro from 10.04 to the latest?
[13:45] <ikonia> !upgrade > ubukou
[13:45] <bullgard4> ubukou: Yes.
[13:46] <Steamopunk> quiescens - My ISP blocks most ports. I need 80 for something, 22 is for SSH, and 21 is one of the only other ones that wasn't blocked.
[13:46] <JonathanEllis> ikonia: I was hoping someone might know one. I'm looking to replace my aged desktop with a laptop but with two graphics outputs for my twin monitors. I've got used to them but with a laptop I quite fancy having 3 screens
[13:46] <ikonia> JonathanEllis: I don't "think" that device exists,
[13:46] <iceroot> JonathanEllis: there are docking stations which offers 2 vga adapters, also see ##hardware
[13:46] <oscar76> bullgard4: thnx
[13:47] <iceroot> JonathanEllis: at work all our thinkpads have a dockingstation with vga + dvi for twinview
[13:47] <depesz> hi. what is the name of tool/program to install new applications in *k*ubuntu, with gui?
[13:47] <iceroot> JonathanEllis: working fine on debian/ubuntu
[13:47] <JonathanEllis> iceroot: That would do the trick. Thanks
[13:47] <tomek_> does anyone can help me with moving window X - [] from left to right ?
[13:47] <iceroot> !controls | tomek_
[13:47] <JonathanEllis> iceroot: If you leave the laptop open can you then have 3 screens?
[13:47] <iceroot> JonathanEllis: yes
[13:48] <iceroot> JonathanEllis: what that was some kind of tricky xorg-magic
[13:48] <Steamopunk> quiescens - http://paste.ubuntu.com/826384/ That's the only thing that came up from the command, and that looks like it's actually on a different port
[13:48] <JonathanEllis> iceroot: Cool. Thanks. Unfortunately both my monitors are vga only but at least I know the right direction to start looking
[13:49] <quiescens> Steamopunk: then its most likely that mysql is failing to bind the port because the port is <1024 and it drops its root permissions prior to binding its port
[13:49] <Steamopunk> quiescens - Alright, so it has to be 1024+?
[13:49] <iceroot> JonathanEllis: there are vga-dvi adapters
[13:50] <iceroot> Steamopunk: mysql is using 3306 by default
[13:50] <JonathanEllis> iceroot: thnx
[13:50] <tomek_> iceroot : thx
[13:50] <iceroot> JonathanEllis: there are also usb-port-replicators which work on all notebooks and some of them are also offering 2 vga adapaters
[13:50] <a931bw> Hello everybody, i want to make bootable USB flash of windows xp, how do i do that from ubuntu>
[13:50] <quiescens> Steamopunk: you will either have to use a port above 1024 or if that isn't an option, you can tell mysql to use a port above 1024 and just use iptables to forward your port 21 to whatever port you tell mysql to use
[13:50] <a931bw> dd didn't wor
[13:51] <ubukou> is there a reason why i cant upgrade distro from update manager?
[13:51] <iceroot> a931bw: dd wotn work in win xp
[13:51] <a931bw> how then?
[13:51] <iceroot> !details | ubukou
[13:52] <iceroot> a931bw: i dont know maybe the usb creator from ubuntu can do that
[13:52] <JonathanEllis> iceroot: I can imagine USB speed might be a problem there. Also I imagine it would simply replicate the screen and external vga port which would only give 2 independent displays?
[13:52] <iceroot> JonathanEllis: depending on the device
[13:52] <Steamopunk> quiescens - Oh, that makes sense and is awesome! Thank you :)
[13:52] <calamity> hey, Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libglib2.0-0 - I've gotten this message when trying to install dconf-gsettings-backend. libglib is definitely installed though.
[13:52] <JonathanEllis> Of course Im not speaking from a position of knowledge on the usb speed
[13:52] <iceroot> JonathanEllis: there are also devices which have 2 vga and you can also use your normal screen as 3.
[13:53] <iceroot> calamity: what is the output of "cat /etc/issue" and "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[13:53] <iceroot> !paste | calamity
[13:53] <JonathanEllis> iceroot: But I think the docking station sounds like the best way to go, unless I can find a laptop with 2 vga ports built in but I guess that is unlikely
[13:53] <quiescens> Steamopunk: does that mean you know how to do that and i can just stop?
[13:53] <iceroot> JonathanEllis: yes thinkpad + dockingstation is a good way
[13:53] <quiescens> lol
[13:54] <a931bw> usb creator won't let me use windows iso
[13:54] <Steamopunk> quiescens - I know I have edited the iptables before, so I should be able to manage.
[13:55] <quiescens> Steamopunk: okay, good luck
[13:55] <iceroot> a931bw: i even dont know if win xp can be booted from usb
[13:55] <iceroot> a931bw: maybe ##windows has some infos about that
[13:55] <iceroot> a931bw: also you can use grub2 to boot isos
[13:55] <theadmin> iceroot: Booted no, but USB can be used as Windows install media
[13:56] <quiescens> i'll bet it can be.. persuaded to work.. by force
[13:56] <theadmin> a931bw: Try WinToFlash (it works with all current Windows versions, however you need to run it from Windows. Or maybe use Wine, not sure how well that'd work)
[13:56] <dirtycookie> hello people, i have freshly installed xubuntu onto my laptop  and when I want to shut down my laptop i get the splashscreen of xubuntu loading and then it hangs. forcing to shutdown by pulling the plug does the job my question is, how to fix that problem
[13:56] <calamity> iceroot: http://pastebin.com/wBUt7ZPD
[13:57] <a931bw> i don't have windows machine :(
[13:57] <bluenemo> does anybody have a link where i can learn to modify the ubiquity slideshow pictures?
[13:57] <theadmin> dirtycookie: Try appending "reboot=bios" to your kernel line, then rebooting (in the forced way, like before) and seeing if it starts working
[13:57] <theadmin> a931bw: Try with wine then
[13:57] <tomek_> who knows a gui tool for managing services in ubuntu 11 ?
[13:57] <iceroot> calamity: outpout of "apt-cache policy libglib2.0-0"
[13:58] <a931bw> k i will
[13:58] <dirtycookie> theadmin: in the grub.cfg file??
[13:58] <theadmin> dirtycookie: No, don't touch that directly, modify /etc/default/grub and then run "sudo update-grub"
[13:59] <rbnswartz> tomek_ There is an application in the software center to somewhat manage services but I don't quite remember the name
[13:59] <calamity> iceroot: http://pastebin.com/VJTe6bAV
[14:00] <dirtycookie> theadmin: i just paste it into the file uncommented right?
[14:00] <theadmin> dirtycookie: No, find GRUB_CMDLINE_DEFAULT and add that before the closing quote... Or something like that
[14:01] <raj> how can I ssh into another computer?
[14:01] <calamity> raj: ssh user@comp ?
[14:02] <raj> ssh root@ipaddress ?
[14:02] <bullgard4> How to decompress in mc a .gz file?
[14:02] <frogzoo> gunzip
[14:02] <calamity> ssh not root, I'd say, but other wise yes
[14:02] <dirtycookie> theadmin: ok, i found it and now the line looks like this :  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash reboot=bios"
[14:02] <raj> what do you mean ssh not root?
[14:02] <raj> root is the username
[14:02] <a931bw> theadmin: fails to load :(
[14:02] <theadmin> dirtycookie: Looks good enough.
[14:03] <calamity> raj: ubuntu doesn't have a root account by default, it uses sudo.
[14:03] <theadmin> raj: "root" CAN'T be a valid username on Ubuntu. root account is normally disabled on Ubuntu systems (and I have to say it's a very sane choice)
[14:03] <compdoc> raj, you need to use your username
[14:03] <salvatore> ciao a tutti
[14:03] <calamity> iceroot: any thoughts?
[14:03] <salvatore> !list
[14:03] <bullgard4> frogzoo: Your message is false.
[14:04] <dirtycookie> theadmin: ok, did update-grub and went well now when i shut down it is supposed to work or do i need to restart??
[14:04] <theadmin> dirtycookie: You have to restart first but after this it should work. Hopefully. If not, try changing "bios" to "acpi". And if not, try changing it to "force".
[14:05] <dirtycookie> theadmin: ok ill be back in a minute
[14:05] <Vako> ok guys ive been trying to install Ralink driver rt2870 for my wireless usb but everytime i get to the make part i get the same error no matter what I do ( Ive looked all around and i cant find anything to support me )
[14:06] <calamity> raj: does that answer your question then?
[14:06] <theadmin> Vako: The error itself would help.
[14:06] <Vako> http://paste.ubuntu.com/826404/
[14:06] <Vako> was pasting it
[14:06] <Steamopunk> quiescens - It appears I was incorrect :C Having a problem setting the destination port.
[14:08] <iceroot> calamity: as it seems everything fine with your repos
[14:08] <quiescens> Steamopunk: well i don't know what you are using to save your rules, but its something like -j REDIRECT --to-port (new port here)
[14:08] <iceroot> calamity: what program you tried to install when that was happening?
[14:08] <Vako> dont know what else to do
[14:08] <calamity> iceroot: dconf-gsettings-backend
[14:09] <iceroot> calamity: can you paste me the outout of "apt-get changelog dconf-gsettings-backend"
[14:09] <andrea1234> hello???
[14:09] <Steamopunk> quiescens - Ah,  yeah, I was doing it almost entirely wrong. Go me.
[14:09] <bluenemo> hi andrea1234
[14:10] <bluenemo> lol
[14:10] <calamity> iceroot: invalid operation?
[14:10] <Vako> guess i hit a roadblock here too
[14:10] <iceroot> calamity: ah seems not to be default
[14:10] <iceroot> does anyone know how to get changelogs for a different release on the shell?
[14:12] <Vako> theadmin
[14:12] <iceroot> strange http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=dconf-gsettings-backend&searchon=names&suite=lucid&section=all
[14:12] <theadmin> Vako: ?
[14:12] <theadmin> Vako: That's not the error, that's just make output -- I need the error itself, normally returned by gcc or something. Paste the whole output
[14:13] <Vako> 1 sec
[14:13] <iceroot> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=dconf-gsettings-backend&searchon=names&suite=lucid-updates&section=all  very strange regarding to http://pastebin.com/VJTe6bAV
[14:13] <calamity> iceroot: woah wait a moment. this isn't lucid. this is oneric
[14:13] <iceroot> calamity: your pastes says you are on lucid
[14:14] <iceroot> calamity: e.g. http://pastebin.com/VJTe6bAV
[14:15] <iceroot> calamity: so you are on the wrong system, destroyed your system or you are really on lucid
[14:15] <Vako> theadmin http://paste.ubuntu.com/826411/
[14:15] <calamity> calamity: hahaha, my apologies, I have many computers, this IS lucid, I was just confused.
[14:16] <iceroot> but i dont get why packages.ubuntu.com is not listing that packages but apt-cache policy does
[14:16] <theadmin> iceroot: They were removed but are still in your cache?
[14:16] <theadmin> Vako: Hm, uh... Sounds like a problem with the code itself, I dunno
[14:16] <iceroot> theadmin: no
[14:17] <iceroot> theadmin: calamity a i see the problem
[14:17] <Vako> yikes
[14:17] <jnsl> how come when i type vi something it uses vim ?
[14:17] <iceroot> calamity: what is th4e source you are installing this dconf-thing from?
[14:17] <WoOh> Hi.
[14:17] <somsip> jnsl: ubuntu uses vim-tiny by default, and a symlink
[14:17] <iceroot> jnsl: vi = vim.tiny
[14:17] <WoOh> I'm in a trouble. I need this package for 10.04: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/firefox-stable/ubuntu lucid main
[14:17] <calamity> jnsl: vi points to vim afaik, like python points to python2.7
[14:17] <WoOh> 7.0.1+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.10.04
[14:17] <WoOh> But cannot find it nowhere.
[14:18] <WoOh> Is there anywhere an "archive" mirror for old deb packages?
[14:18] <iceroot> WoOh: no
[14:18] <calamity> iceroot: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/gnome_3/natty/main/base/dconf-gsettings-backend
[14:18] <jnsl> Ah i see :) so if i would make the same setup on my archbox i need to symlink the vi folder to vim folder?
[14:18] <iceroot> calamity: you see that it is for natty?
[14:18] <Steamopunk> quiescens - Hate to bother you again, but any idea what is wrong? http://paste.ubuntu.com/826413/
[14:18] <LjL> WoOh: that is not a package, it's a repository (a PPA specifically), it's where you get packages *from*
[14:18] <WoOh> i see.
[14:18] <iceroot> calamity: now you know why you are facing dependency issues
[14:18] <calamity> iceroot: yeah, sorry about that, it's quite late here and I forgot which system this was.
[14:19] <iceroot> calamity: dont mix packages from different releases it will normally end in dependency issues
[14:19] <WoOh> One of our servers still have this version. Is it possible to recreate the .deb from the installed sw?
[14:19] <calamity> iceroot: I usually don't :p
[14:19] <WoOh> and if it's possible, how?
[14:19] <iceroot> WoOh: the deb should be still in /var/cache/apt/ if not removed with apt-clean
[14:19] <LjL> WoOh: not really, but maybe the original package is still in /var/cache/apt/archives?
[14:19] <WoOh> t's empty.
[14:19] <WoOh> ;(
[14:19] <WoOh> i've checked it.
[14:20] <iceroot> WoOh: but the combination of server + ppa + older software-version then available = very bad and evil
[14:20] <iceroot> even server + ppa is evil
[14:20] <LjL> !info dpkg-repack | WoOh
[14:21] <WoOh> ubottu: gonna check it.
[14:21] <calamity> Well thanks guys, I'm gonna try this out on my other comp, which actually has 11.04 on it :p
[14:21] <calamity> seeya
[14:23] <kralle> hello a;534 upgradieng ubuntu pernonal hotspot start but disconect in the same moment any help ? :) ubuntu 11.04
[14:23] <d00de> WoOh: did you check: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[14:24] <quiescens> Steamopunk: redirects are more like: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport $srcPortNumber -j REDIRECT --to-port $dstPortNumber
[14:24] <dirtycookie> theadmin: hi Im back
[14:24] <dirtycookie> theadmin: i tried all the options as u said but none worked, i still get the frozen splashscreen
[14:25] <WLU> How can I deactivate wireless networking i n ubuntu11.10 . in 10.04 there used to be a left click and turn off wireless or something like that but is no longer available in 11.10
[14:25] <quiescens> Steamopunk: so basically change INPUT to PREROUTING and add "-t nat"
[14:27] <xSmurf> hey guys is there a hotkey to disable automatic login??
[14:27] <Steamopunk> quiescens - The command worked just fine, but I can't see it on -L, how do I see the info now?
[14:28] <fondueboy> I have a question that I would like to get an answer fro if some one could help me
[14:28] <meskarune> ask your question fondueboy
[14:28] <quiescens> Steamopunk: probably have to do iptables -L -t nat
[14:29] <kralle> can someone help me about this hotspot error ?
[14:30] <fondueboy> well I run ubuntu 12.04 alpha 1 on my netbook. because it is a bit unstable it is alot easier to install updates from the comand line. but the ubuntu update manager sais there are updates left and that it cant install them all but do a partial upgread why is that?
[14:30] <Steamopunk> quiescens - Worked like a charm, thank you for all of your help.
[14:31] <om26er> is there a hotkey to open system monitor?
[14:31] <kralle> i run lastest ubuntu get i upgrade packages but now hotspot stop working any help
[14:31] <dlentz> fondueboy, don't trust update-mangler in a prerelease
[14:31] <om26er> or key combination ofcourse
[14:32] <fondueboy> well no I dont trust it but I dont understan why it says one thing there and another in the comand line
[14:32] <meskarune> om26er: if there isn't a hotkey, you can make one. :P
[14:32] <dlentz> is one of the updates to update manger itself
[14:32] <dlentz> that could cause it
[14:33] <kralle> uhm someone ?
[14:33] <om26er> meskarune, yeah sure, had to tell someone who's finding an alternative for "computer's properties" as in windows ;_)
[14:34] <fondueboy> well the update manager schould be updated from the command line already so why dose it say that it dont have the updates?
[14:34] <kralle> om26er can you help me ?
[14:34] <frybye> hi - in 11.10 how to get newest updates manually via the gui?
[14:35] <om26er> kralle, please ask maybe I might know a solution
[14:35] <meskarune> om26er: I really like inxi for system info. see here: http://code.google.com/p/inxi/
[14:35] <om26er> if not me others are here :)
[14:35] <fondueboy> well my question boils down to if I can be sure that I got all the updates when I update from the command line
[14:35] <kralle> i just installed ubuntu the latest build , then updatet using apt-get upgrade , since then the hotspot wont start
[14:35] <kralle> it start but disconnect in the same moment
[14:35] <pangolin> frybye: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:36] <om26er> kralle, you are making your system's wifi a hotspot?
[14:36] <pangolin> frybye: sorry, you said gui.
[14:36] <kralle> yes
[14:36] <kralle> yes om26er
[14:36] <frybye> pangolin - ok but I was just wondering where this is if using the gui?
[14:36] <om26er> I read it yesterday
[14:37] <pangolin> frybye: search for Upgrade manager in the Dash
[14:37] <frybye> pangolin - ok thanks a lot..
[14:38] <om26er> kralle, read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc ??
[14:39] <om26er> I was trying the same but it turned out my wifi card had not the feature, but I read the constant disconnecting issue somewhere
[14:39] <webroasters> hi guys. when I run gconf-editor, i don't see an entry for nautilus under apps. Is there a simple way, from the command line to change the location entry bar thing to the old way of doing things, for example: /var/something/something/
[14:39] <larryone> can anyone suggest how i can capture logs of commands sent for a non-interactive ssh session?
[14:40] <abvayad> help me pls
[14:41] <compdoc> need cash?
[14:41] <abvayad> no
[14:41] <pangolin> What could I use to monitor my bandwidth usage, I need to figure out daily/weekly/monthly average usage?
[14:41] <abvayad> i wanna now how to in to this roo via mobile
[14:42] <abvayad> room*
[14:42] <pangolin> abvayad: look for an IRC client for your mobile device
[14:42] <compdoc> how to use irc on a mobile device?
[14:42] <jatt> larryone: like
[14:42] <jatt> ssh user@machine ls > foo.log
[14:42] <jatt> ?
[14:42] <abvayad> i have one
[14:43] <abvayad> but cant login
[14:43] <pangolin> abvayad: what client is it?
[14:43] <abvayad> it ask s me to register
[14:43] <dlentz> webroasters, gnome3 uses dconf
[14:43] <kralle> om26er
[14:44] <kralle> it worked fine until the update
[14:44] <kralle> apt get upgrade
[14:44] <pangolin> !register | abvayad
[14:44] <abvayad> http://jmirc.sourceforge.net/
[14:44] <om26er> kralle, hey! http://bit.ly/x3p3OQ says if it disconnects again and gain there is a fix read
[14:44] <pangolin> abvayad: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration
[14:45] <abvayad> where i i have to type
[14:46] <kralle> i did this
[14:46] <kralle> before
[14:46] <kralle> but it now fix it :/
[14:46] <betimig> Guys
[14:47] <betimig> I need your help and I want to report something.
[14:47] <tielhalter_> hi guys, why opengl-based programs works faster with turned on compiz and fglrx radeon drivers?
[14:48] <kralle> om26er i did this but it wont fix it
[14:48] <betimig> Im installing ubuntu 11.10 latest iso from web site downloaded and when I make uptades (system uptades) ubuntu faills to boot im re-installing ubuntu for 4 times but everytime then i make uptades it fails to start
[14:48] <jatt> !reinstall
[14:48] <Kartagis> can you help me please? I've got no audido now, in or out. sound properties shows dummy output
[14:48] <pangolin> abvayad: for more help with how to register type /join #freenode and ask in there
[14:48] <betimig> I reinstalled 4 times but same problem always.
[14:50] <betimig> Im Windows user but I want to change Windows with ubuntu
[14:50] <betimig> I like design etc
[14:50] <betimig> Im installing ubuntu 11.10 latest iso from web site downloaded and when I make uptades (system uptades) ubuntu faills to boot im re-installing ubuntu for 4 times but everytime then i make uptades it fails to start
[14:50] <ikonia> define fails to start
[14:50] <larryone> jatt, not really, there's a web interface that is sending commands to my server over ssh. so essentially a script doing it. I cant capture the commands it sends in the .bash_history because it's non-interactive. I'm tryign to figure out how to capture those commands
[14:51] <betimig> anyone can help me with my problem or not
[14:51] <betimig> ?
[14:51] <betimig> its a serious problem need it to get fixed.
[14:51] <ikonia> betimig: depends on what the problem is
[14:51] <ikonia> betimig: how serious you think it is won't change that
[14:51] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek Day 3 (last day) starting in 8 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[14:52] <ikonia> dholbach: thank you, you've just filled my dull afternoon
[14:52] <betimig> but how its possible from uptades to crash always ?
[14:52] <dholbach> ikonia,  :)
[14:52] <tielhalter_> #ubuntu-classroom
[14:52] <ikonia> betimig: I'm still waiting for you to tell me how it crashes, what's the error etc
[14:53] <larryone> betimig, when you boot it, how far does it get before fail occurrs?
[14:53] <betimig> okay thats it I do uptades then when I restart it starts normal then to Ubuntu logo stops you know the Ubuntu Logo with .....
[14:53] <betimig> and it just hangs there.
[14:53] <ikonia> betimig: do you get the login screen ?
[14:53] <betimig> No
[14:53] <ikonia> betimig: ok - I suggest you remove the splash screen to see what it's hanging on
[14:53] <shu3h0_> anybody has any idea about setting up personal area network using bluetooth ubuntu 10.04
[14:54] <ikonia> betimig: this means you won't get the boot logo but some text
[14:54] <ikonia> shu3h0_: wouldn't advise doing networks over bluetooth
[14:54] <IronSight> someone have a grub configuration howto link? I'm trying to set grub2 to boot windows first, only show the menu when I press a hotkey at boot.
[14:54] <betimig> I know and I did that i see no errors there it just hangs to battery status and no more text than that
[14:54] <ikonia> !grub2 > IronSight
[14:54] <IronSight> thanks
[14:54] <betimig> i tried to boot with or without battery
[14:54] <betimig> but same problem.
[14:54] <tielhalter_> how to connect to Ubuntu Developer Week?
[14:54] <ikonia> betimig: boot into recovery mode, see if that works
[14:55] <ikonia> tielhalter_: /join #ubuntu-classroom
[14:55] <betimig> as I saw if i boot in recovery mode there is just with command prompt
[14:55] <tielhalter_> ikonia: thx
[14:55] <betimig> and i dont know commands.
[14:55] <denstark> Hello! I'm on maverick and upgraded libglib to a version from a ppa, but it broke some of my programs. Trying to revert (using sudo aptitude install libglib2.0-0=2.26.0-0ubuntu1) wants me to remove ubuntu-desktop and some other very important packages.. any way to force the downgrade while not removing those packages?
[14:55] <ikonia> betimig: that's fine, so you know it boots fine, it's the multi user mode
[14:55] <willdabeast> This question doesn't necessarily have to do with Ubuntu, but my computer is freezing after being on it for a few hours. I know it's not the power supply... anything else it could be?
[14:55] <ikonia> denstark: game over
[14:55] <ikonia> denstark: updating glibc is a very very bad idea, especially from an unknown PPA
[14:55] <denstark> =(
[14:56] <ikonia> willdabeast: ram, use memtest to test it for 24 hours see what comes up
[14:56] <ikonia> betimig: boot into recovery mode then type "init 2" and watch what happens on the screen
[14:56] <willdabeast> ikonia alright thanks, could memtest fix it? or just find out what's wrong with it.
[14:57] <ikonia> willdabeast: if it's bad ram, only new ram will fix it
[14:57] <ikonia> willdabeast: bad ram is a common cause of most hardware hangs/reset
[14:57] <denstark> ikonia: so there's no way to force apt or dpkg to downgrade it?
[14:57] <howlymowly> hi poeple..  anyone here familiar with waltop tablets?
[14:57] <ikonia> denstark: the realistic answer is "no", the real answer is yes, possibly with a lot of work
[14:58] <willdabeast> ikonia alright thanks so much
[14:58] <denstark> ikonia: I see... well reinstalling on this machine isn't really a possibility, so I may have to do the lot of work way
[14:58] <walid_> hi guys! i'm new to ubuntu, and i'll have a lot to do in the next days on a linux machine, so i guess i'll be here a while
[14:58] <walid_> however, i don't have a monitor yet. if i just turn the pc on, i can't ssh into it, right?
[14:58] <betimig> so i go and type init 2 and watch for errors then come here again and report to you ?
[14:58] <ikonia> denstark: start backing it up
[14:59] <ikonia> denstark: if it was an important machine you should a.) have backups b.) not be messing around with PPAs for core libraries
[14:59] <howlymowly> I mean graphic tablets?  I have several issues with my waltop tablet:  1. only the "styler" side of the en is working, not the erazer. 2. I can not do a "mouse click" with the stylus for example in gimp it will do some strange things....
[14:59] <ikonia> walid_: if you have sshd setup and the machine is on the network you can ssh in
[15:00] <walid_> ikonia: even if i haven't logged in the machine yet?
[15:00] <walid_> ok, i'll try and get its IP adress or smth :)
[15:00] <ikonia> walid_: then no, as you won't have setup the network or sshd as I just said
[15:00] <walid_> ikonia: right..
[15:00] <walid_> that's what i thought
[15:00] <walid_> thanks
[15:01] <walid_> ikonia: but seeing as i have a keyboard, i could log in
[15:01] <walid_> never touched this machine before, but it has been used. i'm connected via ethernet to it.
[15:02] <ikonia> walid_: what are you talking about, if you've never touched this machine before how can it have been used ?
[15:02] <walid_> ikonia: well, i got it from a friend
[15:03] <ikonia> walid_: right so it's probably setup on the network with sshd setup then
[15:03] <Kartagis> !find sndconfig
[15:03] <Kartagis> can you help me please? I've got no audio now, in or out. sound properties shows dummy output
[15:04] <walid_> ikonia: ok thanks
[15:05] <betimig> ikonia
[15:05] <betimig> write me pm
[15:05] <betimig> i want to ask you something
[15:05] <ikonia> betimig: just ask here
[15:06] <betimig> ok i asked you there but as i see you don't readed
[15:06] <tachyons> .
[15:06] <betimig> i go init 2 in recovery and see what errrors gives
[15:06] <betimig> than i come here to report to you ?
[15:06] <walid_> ikonia: i'll let you know if i work it out
[15:06] <walid_> ;)
[15:06] <riyonuk> Everytime I install ubuntu in virtualbox, and remove the cd, and start it, it says "Could not read from the boot medium! System halted!", why?
[15:06] <ikonia> betimig: use a pastebin
[15:07] <Steamopunk> Thanks everyone. I want to thank this room for helping me get my server up and running. Special thanks to quiescens and ssta. You guys are awesome.
[15:08] <tachyons> .
[15:08] <tachyons> I am now from mobile,can you see my post?
[15:08] <toddWork> in a shell command, i'm trying to say "remove all files except for MYFILE in /var/foo" something like: rm !(FILE) /var/foo
[15:09] <Steamopunk> tachyons- Yep
[15:09] <toddWork> what should that syntax look like? ^^
[15:09] <betimig> I have i5 8gb ram and ati hd 6850m can i install version 32 bit
[15:09] <ninja_sense> if i burn the latest version of ubuntu to a dsk and then boot it on a computer i currently have ubuntu running, will it give me the option to upgrade?
[15:09] <betimig> because I had 64 bit installed
[15:09] <betimig> as i know 32 bit wont recognize 8gb ram
[15:09] <tielhalter_> lol
[15:09] <ikonia> betimig: please pastebin the output of your init 2 update
[15:09] <llutz> toddWork: find /var/foo -type f -not -name MYFILE -delete
[15:10] <toddWork> llutz: thanks.
[15:10] <tachyons> No :(?
[15:11] <tachyons> Is it possible to resume uck build?
[15:11] <betimig> how to make 11.10 bootable from usb stick because i want to install it from usb stick
[15:12] <EgyParadox> betimig: Startup Disk Creator
[15:12] <Iznougoud> I'm having an issue with adding "protected web directories" on Ubuntu Server, using webmin. Simply put. They refuse to become "protected". As far as I can see, all settings are what they are supposed to be - something obvious that I could have missed out on?
[15:12] <xangua> betimig: did you read the instructions in ubuntu.com ¿
[15:12] <theadmin> betimig: Many ways. Since oneiric, you can even plain dd (rawwrite) the image to your USB stick and it will work. From Windows, try LiLi USB Creator. From Linux, use usb-creator-gtk or dd as described above. From OS X, I'm not even sure you can.
[15:13] <xangua> (09:09:38) betimig: as i know 32 bit wont recognize 8gb ram - if you use pae it will
[15:13] <llutz> betimig: sudo dd if=image.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4k              /dev/sdX is your usb-stick device
[15:13] <xangua> theadmin: i was told you couldn't dd D: i always got told 'that is wrong' D:
[15:14] <betimig> xangua i readed ubuntu instruction but with that tools i havent success making usb stick bootable
[15:14] <theadmin> xangua: It works since oneiric, but not with earlier editions. Which is rather weird but ah well
[15:14] <betimig> ok thanks for info guys i will try lili usb creator
[15:14] <libryder> anyone know of a good way to manage sshfs mounts? like in some sort of explorer
[15:14] <fzlamn> betimig: try unetbootin
[15:15] <kamilnadeem> Hi
[15:16] <libryder> maybe i'll write a damn script for it
[15:16] <kamilnadeem> seeing grub while botting with 4 kernels wanted to remove them via update-grub but getting error
[15:16] <kamilnadeem> http://paste.ubuntu.com/826481/
[15:17] <RJ_F1> got windows problem, wat do?
[15:17] <scarleo> Hi, I have some trouble with openshot, I try to mix a .ogv video clip with a .ogg sound clip, they both work. In OpenShot I import them both and put them in one track each but the preview only shows a distorted still picture from the end of the video. If I export it it's just 4 sec long instead of 3 min and just shows the distorted pic instead of video. Audio works great. Anyone got any tips for me?
[15:18] <Kartagis> can you help me please? I've got no audio now, in or out. sound properties shows dummy output
[15:19] <tachyons> My sound card wont work in ubuntu
[15:19] <tachyons> but ut works in windows
[15:19] <tachyons> :(
[15:21] <lantjie> hello guys
[15:22] <lantjie> do you guys know of a system that can be used to scan documents and email the to my managers for review and accepting or declining
[15:22] <lantjie> ?
[15:23] <ekaleido> does ubuntu run a client-side dns cache out of the box?
[15:24] <lantjie> quit
[15:24] <llutz> ekaleido: "pgrep nscd || echo no" :)
[15:24] <kamilnadeem> Syntax errors are detected in generated GRUB config file
[15:24] <kamilnadeem> http://paste.ubuntu.com/826481/
[15:25] <llutz> kamilnadeem: you messed up /etc/default/grub  or some of the /etc/grub.d/* files. check it, repair it
[15:26] <kamilnadeem> llutz: How to repair them
[15:27] <kamilnadeem> I mean I can open them but what to look for
[15:27] <llutz> kamilnadeem: you changed them, you have to know what you did. reverse it
[15:27] <llutz> revert
[15:29] <kamilnadeem> llutz: I didn't do anything
[15:29] <kamilnadeem> llutz: may be some app did it
[15:29] <kamilnadeem> llutz: here http://paste.ubuntu.com/826494/
[15:30] <llutz>  kamilnadeem sure this is correct? "mode_option=>>1024*768-24<<"
[15:30] <kamilnadeem> llutz: don't know
[15:31] <llutz> i doubt thats a default line, so someone has added this. ask him kamilnadeem
[15:32] <kamilnadeem> llutz: yeah I was having some prob so someone on IRC asked me make some changes
[15:32] <llutz>  kamilnadeem change it into  "mode_option=1024x768-24" and try again
[15:32] <kamilnadeem> llutz: ok trying
[15:35] <savant_> Struggling With SSH, I understand config files and getting around in the command line, but SSh?
[15:35] <kamilnadeem> llutz: stil the same error
[15:36] <bucaneiro> any clues about to create a ubuntu packge for distribtion?
[15:36] <llutz> kamilnadeem: try making the line to read: "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset"
[15:38] <llutz> bbl
[15:38] <kamilnadeem> still the same
[15:38] <Akiva> Hey my sound crashed, and I am rendering something, so I can't restart. Any tips on how I can get it working again?
[15:39] <bullgard4> !sound | Akiva
[15:39] <BlackWar> Any one else got the Apple Iphone/Ipod usb driver updates today?
[15:39] <kamilnadeem> BlackWar: Yes I have
[15:40] <mjaga_> ssroom
[15:40] <BlackWar> Ok , just asking because by coincedence it was the first time i connected an iphone to my pc and i got the updates, so i tought it had to do with connecting the iphone or something..
[15:40] <bullgard4> How to decompress in mc a .gz file?
[15:40] <Danny_Joris_> Hi, I have a string and i want to check in what file it's located. How do I do this?
[15:40] <Danny_Joris_> I tried grep -n "string" *
[15:40] <Akiva> bullgard4: its not detecting any hardware
[15:40] <kamilnadeem> BlackWar:  Ok , I don't use apple
[15:41] <bullgard4> Akiva: Check if there is an intermittent contact in your computer.
[15:41] <Akiva> bullgard4: This crashed via software. It was working before
[15:41] <imbezol> Akiva: you could try restarting the pulse audio processes
[15:42] <imbezol> Akiva: "ps fauxw | grep pulse" and then kill off those processes
[15:42] <Akiva> imbezol: I tried closing it via the system monitor, but to no avail.
[15:42] <imbezol> Akiva: then run "/usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog"
[15:42] <BlackWar> I don't use apple , it's my girlfriend's. i use HTC :)
[15:42] <bullgard4> Akiva: 1. You did not follow the recipes of ubottu.
[15:43] <Akiva> bullgard4: I did.
[15:43] <pjotter> Hallo allemaal. Ik heb zojuist Xubuntu geïnstalleerd. En nou zag ik dat ik bij het inloggen kan kiezen tussen Gnome classic, Ubuntu (dat is met Unity!) en een Xubuntu sessie. Klopt het dat al deze dingen in Xubuntu zitten, of heb ik nou iets geks gedaan?
[15:43] <Vako> ok Amazing.... internet was working perfectly .. now it doesnt even find the network. what can be causing this?
[15:43] <Akiva> bullgard4: it was about getting sound to work, not about getting sound to uncrash
[15:43] <Kartagis> !nl | pjotter
[15:43] <blackout342345> can someone help me with cut? how can i change order when cut -d' ' -f10,11,12,9 it  displays me ascending ordered
[15:43] <pjotter> pardon :)
[15:44] <jlebar_> Where does the Firefox team hang out?
[15:44] <Kartagis> blackout342345: use  | sort after that?
[15:44] <Vako> if anyone can help before my head explodes
[15:44] <jlebar_> Aha, #ubuntu-mozillateam
[15:46] <Akiva> imbezol: No, it didnt do a thing.
[15:46] <LukeNukem> anybody from Netherlands?
[15:46] <Akiva> imbezol: thanks though
[15:47] <Kartagis> okay, I got my sound back. can anyone guide me to properly being able to use a mike?
[15:47] <dak0> LukeNukem, what do you need from Netherlands?
[15:47] <loganrun> is there a way to make the program launcher bar only appear either when no window is near it or when I press the windows key, I hate it that it appears all the time when I move the mouse over there
[15:47] <LukeNukem> dak0, i need a mobile number from a NL person so i can sign up for a NL service which will send confirmation code to that number and he can give me the code so i can activate my account ;o
[15:47] <frybye> Hi - what exactly do I have to enter in konversation to get it to auto- identify with my registered user name? I know the usual manual command...
[15:47] <frybye> using it now...
[15:48] <walid_> i need to get the ip of the other side of my ethernet cable.
[15:48] <dak0> lol.
[15:48] <walid_> i tried to ping -f -I en0
[15:48] <walid_> no success.
[15:48] <Kartagis> walid_: www.showmyip.com
[15:49] <walid_> Kartagis: i'm link via eth to a computer with no monitor, i want to ssh into it
[15:49] <Tellmarch> hello, i'm a bit lost with java... so i installed openjdk runtime... What is the appropriate plugin for firefox ?
[15:49] <Kartagis> walid_: you want to get its IP? use nmap
[15:50] <compdoc> walid_, the computer isnt conencted to a network?
[15:50] <walid_> no
[15:50] <walid_> i just turned it on
[15:50] <compdoc> then it has no ip
[15:50] <ericus> hey guys
[15:50] <walid_> compdoc: hmm i'm very very new to ubuntu and linux in general, but if the cable is plugged, does it not have an IP?
[15:51] <ubuntu> kurwa mać
[15:51] <ericus> I'm running ubuntu 10.04 on a netbook. How do I install the 3.3 rc2-kernel from a .deb-file?
[15:51] <killtill> walid: type ifconfig in a terminal and see what ethX says
[15:51] <compdoc> walid_, well, it could have an ip if it were maunally set up. but usually, you need a network and dhcp service running to give it one
[15:51] <ubuntu> ?????????
[15:52] <walid_> compdoc: hm. so basically, without monitor, i'm ***
[15:52] <Kartagis> ericus: sudo dpkg -i <kernel.deb>
[15:52] <compdoc> walid_, connect it to a network, and run an ip scanner
[15:52] <walid_> compdoc: like nmap, on my laptop?
[15:52] <Tellmarch> ericus, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds?action=show&redirect=KernelTeam%2FMainlineBuilds
[15:52] <ubuntu> nie spac kurwa zwiedzac
[15:53] <Kartagis> http://people.sabanciuniv.edu/mtozses/l | ubuntu
[15:53] <Kartagis> damn
[15:53] <bullgard4> !language | ubuntu
[15:53] <free-tpb> I know this is off topic, but have you guys heard about thepiratebay yet ?
[15:53] <ikonia> free-tpb: if you know it's offtopic don't talk about it
[15:53] <Kartagis> !pl | ubuntu
[15:53] <ericus> is there a ppa for 3.3 rc2?
[15:54] <ericus> I can't find it in synaptic
[15:54] <ikonia> ericus: I'd advise you not to mix kernels
[15:54] <ubuntu> ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////????????????????????????//////////////???????//////????/////????////???///???///????/////////??///????//????///???////???///???///???///????///??????????????/////////////??????????////////////???????????????//////////????????????????///////////????/////?????///????///????////?????////??????//////??????????///////??????????//////???????????/////?????????/////???????????
[15:54] <ubuntu> ?????????/////????????????????/////???????////?????///????????????????????////???????????????????????///////////////////////////////////////////////????????????????????////////////////????????????????/////////////////????????????????//////////////////???????????????????????/////////////??????????????????????????????????/////////////////??????????????????????????????//////////////////////????????????????????????////////////????????????????????
[15:54] <ericus> ikonia how do you mean?
[15:54] <FloodBot1> ubuntu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:54] <Tellmarch> ericus : http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[15:54] <ikonia> ericus: taking kernels from different sources that where not part of the ubuntu version you are using
[15:54] <loganrun> is there a way to make the program launcher bar only appear either when no window is near it or when I press the windows key, I hate it that it appears all the time when I move the mouse over there
[15:54] <Tellmarch> ericus, read the first link i gave you
[15:54] <Kartagis> okay, I got my sound back. can anyone guide me to properly being able to use a mike?
[15:55] <jasonlfunk> I'm running a server version of natty and have my wireless network configured to be an ad-hoc network. When I boot the machine the ad-hoc network isn't configured. If I login and run "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" then the ad-hoc network starts. Any ideas why it doesn't start on boot? See my interfaces file here: http://pastebin.com/VJQqmUGc
[15:55] <compdoc> walid_, yeah
[15:55] <bullgard4> Kartagis: Define "properlx" please.
[15:55] <bullgard4> Kartagis: Define "properly" please.
[15:55] <loganrun> I just clicked on the speaker, then sound settings then the input and changed it to the mike I wanted
[15:55] <ikonia> jasonlfunk: I suspect you are using gnome network manager to configure the card
[15:55] <walid_> compdoc: hmm thanks for the info, i'll go get a monitor i guess
[15:55] <Vako> Guys gimme a hand with this internet stuff
[15:56] <Kartagis> bullgard4: microphone doesn't work at all
[15:56] <jasonlfunk> ikonia: No, Gnome and network-manager are not installed.
[15:56] <Vako> its not finding a network
[15:56] <ericus> thanks Tellmarch
[15:56] <Vako> doesnt even blink
[15:56] <arimail> Hi could someone please help me I cannot download a package it says: Couldn't find package by regex
[15:56] <bullgard4> Kartagis: Try to find it in alsamixer.
[15:56] <free-tpb> Will having a extra nic set two promisc affect my network in a negitive way
[15:57] <ikonia> free-tpb: possibly
[15:57] <ubuntu> ????????????????????????????//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////??????????????????????????????????/////////////////////???????????????/////////??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[15:57] <ubuntu> ??????????????///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[15:57] <FloodBot1> ubuntu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:57] <Kartagis> bullgard4: http://home.ozses.net/mmic.png
[15:58] <Kartagis> bullgard4: http://home.ozses.net/mic.png
[15:58] <Kartagis> sorry
[15:58] <frybye> Hi I have 11.10 running with the onboard grafic - but not sure  how exactly to get it to run with my nvdia 240gs card .. i install the card and it just makes a mess of the display and then freezes - how can  install the nvidia driver when the screen is not useable untill it works?
[15:59] <ikonia> frybye: disale the onboard in the bios
[15:59] <bullgard4> Kartagis: Your microphone is muted!
[15:59] <frybye> Hi - been out of ubuntu a long time - remember you though...
[15:59] <frybye> and then it will work...?
[15:59] <Guest1152> Heya, I'm moderatly new to C++ development, moderatly being well versed in the logic, there's no way I can sum it up in a sentence, but the problem I have is the gulf between "Hello world" and managing includes, so far no include statements (from example gtkmm code) work, I don't want a magic fix, is there any documentation on how a "UNIX dev. enviroment" is set up and works?
[16:00] <ikonia> Guest1152: the best thing is to chat in ##c++ and ##c channels
[16:00] <Guest1152> I'd like to know how to manage it myself, than just "stick this here and hope for the best" I want to read, but I don't even know what t google
[16:01] <frybye> ok i try it - bye now...
[16:01] <Kartagis> bullgard4: weird, sound properties didn't show it as muted
[16:01] <Kartagis> bullgard4: thank you very much :)
[16:01] <Kartagis> bullgard4++
[16:01] <ericus> why not mixing kernels?
[16:01] <bullgard4> Kartagis: Enjoy Ubuntu!
[16:01] <th_> D9NPY4QC
[16:02] <th_> D9NPY4QC
[16:02] <th_> D9NPY4QC
[16:02] <FloodBot1> th_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:02] <ericus> I'm running 10.04, with 2.6.35 kernel to get TRIM working with SSD
[16:02] <Kartagis> bullgard4: I've been using ubuntu since Heron, and I'm still amazable
[16:02] <Tellmarch> ericus, i personnally run a 3.2 kernel (because previous kernels wouldn't work properly with my hardware), i have no problems. just follow the correct procedure.
[16:02] <ericus> and now I want to update to 3.3 rc2
[16:03] <ikonia> ericus: why ?
[16:03] <free-tpb> Can i ask ubuntu-server related questions here? I need to know the best way to block someone
[16:03] <ikonia> free-tpb: sure
[16:03] <ikonia> free-tpb: also #ubuntu-server
[16:03] <ericus> Tellmarch: Sorry to bother you, but I don't know how to install the 3.3 rc2
[16:03] <th_> D9NPY4QC
[16:03] <ericus> I've read your link
[16:04] <Kartagis> Pici++
[16:04] <ikonia> ericus: why do you want to, what "extra" do you think you'll get ?
[16:04] <DinoMuffin> free-tpb: what do you mean by "block someone"?
[16:04] <Tellmarch> ericus, have you downloaded the correct header and image .deb from the ppa?
[16:04] <Kartagis> free-tpb: block by IP? use /etc/hosts.deny
[16:05] <DrCode> hi all
[16:05] <ericus> ikonia: I dont know, some things must have improved over two years?
[16:05] <Tellmarch> ericus, oh sorry, i didn't realise you were still in 10.04
[16:05] <DrCode> I have windows 7 on my new laptop , I want to backup it and install fresh ubuntu , then I want to restore the win7 image into virtualbox, any idea , tools?
[16:05] <ikonia> ericus: not always, as you're not using an operating system designed around using those compopnents
[16:06] <free-tpb> Well i have been getting a lot of hits from bots looking for phpmyadmin, proxyheader.php, ext how can i report them before i block them, i would like to build a black list before i block them
[16:06] <iceroot> DrCode: ##windows
[16:06] <ericus> So your advice would be to stay on 2.6.35-32-generic?
[16:06] <iceroot> DrCode: but normally dd should work
[16:06] <Tellmarch> ericus : if you don't have a *need* of a newer kernel, don't risk it with such an old distribution.
[16:07] <ericus> Okay Tellmarch
[16:07] <ikonia> free-tpb: badbots rules on fail2ban
[16:08] <ericus> Tellmarch and ikonia, I went from 2.6.32 to 2.6.35 today, to get TRIM on SSD working. Was that a bad idea?
[16:08] <DrCode> thanx
[16:08] <Tellmarch> 2.6.35 is released for 10.04, so that's ok
[16:08] <ikonia> ericus: that's fine if you're working, leave it be
[16:08] <ericus> everything works just fine, trim was the thing I wanted
[16:09] <ericus> got me a ssd disk for my netbook
[16:09] <cloudgeek> any sugesstion for youtube plugin for banshee
[16:09] <ikonia> ericus: ok, so there is no need to update again
[16:09] <ericus> so 2.6.35-32-generic is still secure?
[16:09] <ikonia> ericus: unless you have a reason to
[16:09] <ikonia> ericus: secure ?
[16:09] <cloudgeek> or donwlaod link for youtube plugin for banshee
[16:09] <Tellmarch> ericus, for further updates wait until 12.04 is out in a few months
[16:09] <ericus> no known vurnerabilities?
[16:09] <ericus> Tellmarch: I'd like to stay on 10.04 on my netbook
[16:10] <iceroot> ericus: if you are using a normal ubuntu kernel everything is fine with the security
[16:10] <iceroot> normal = comming from ubuntu and not a ppa/build by yoursef
[16:11] <ericus> Thank you all for answering my noob-questions
[16:11] <Tellmarch> ericus, there was a security flaw in linux kernels released recently, but i think it was only from 2.6.39, so you should be fine.
[16:11] <cloudgeek> youtube plugin for banshee is any ?
[16:11] <dak0> I heart theres youtube plugin for SMplayer
[16:11] <dak0> heard*
[16:12] <Pici> Tellmarch, ericus: 10.04 is still supported, so any kernel security updates would have been presented.
[16:12] <Tellmarch> Pici, he hasn't the "normal" 10.04 kernel
[16:12] <Tellmarch> which is still 2.6.32
[16:13] <iceroot> Tellmarch: there was a newer kernel backported for 10.04 which is in the normal main-repo
[16:13] <iceroot> Tellmarch: that is common for lts to have 2 kernels after some time
[16:13] <ericus> I used a backport from karmic
[16:13] <Pici> ericus: Are you sure that you are running 10.04?  Is that what lsb_release -r  says?
[16:13] <iceroot> ericus: how you used the backport?
[16:13] <bullgard4> cloudgeek: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/03/banshee-155-released-with-grid-view.html
[16:14] <iceroot> ericus: lucid-backports? or something by hand?
[16:14] <ericus> lsb_release -r
[16:14] <ericus> Release:	10.04
[16:14] <ericus> iceroot: followed a guide
[16:14] <ericus> again, this was for getting TRIM to work
[16:15] <jasonlfunk> I'm running a server version of natty and have my wireless network configured to be an ad-hoc network. When I boot the machine the ad-hoc network isn't configured. If I login and run "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" then the ad-hoc network starts. Any ideas why it doesn't start on boot? See my interfaces file here: http://pastebin.com/VJQqmUGc
[16:15] <_Ethan_> how can i see my system characteristics ? memory, processor... in ubuntu ?
[16:16] <free-tpb> Htop is grate for that
[16:16] <iceroot> ericus: what is the output of "apt-cache policy linux-image-$(uname -r)"
[16:16] <free-tpb> apt-get install htop
[16:16] <dlentz> _Ethan_, between lspci, lshw, and dmidecode commands, you should find any info you need
[16:17] <_Ethan_> ok !
[16:17] <free-tpb> also lshw lists all of your hardware and can output it as html
[16:17] <_Ethan_> thx dlentz
[16:18] <free-tpb> Ethan dont forget htop
[16:18] <ericus> iceroot: linux-image-2.6.35-32-generic: Installed: 2.6.35-32.64~lucid1 Candidate: 2.6.35-32.64~lucid1
[16:18] <iceroot> ericus: please the real output
[16:18] <iceroot> !paste | ericus
[16:18] <iceroot> ericus: the repo-line is important
[16:19] <ericus> 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-updates/main Packages
[16:19] <ericus> and
[16:19] <ericus> 500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-security/main Packages
[16:19] <ubukou> hey folks, i just upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10 hoping that i could have effects working... when i enable them it logs me off and nothing happens.. i talked to someone earlier telling me that ubuntu has open source driver that support these features... any ideas?
[16:19] <ericus> what, is there some kind of problem iceroot? :S
[16:20] <dlentz> ubukou, what graphic card?
[16:20] <larryone> anyone know how to log a non interactive ssh session from the server side?
[16:20] <iceroot> ericus: i am just looking if you screwed up your system for security or if everything is fine
[16:20] <ericus> well, how does it look then iceroot?
[16:20] <iceroot> ericus: because if i am correct you asked if you get security updates
[16:20] <ericus> i wouldn't install a kernel from a third party source
[16:20] <iceroot> ericus: it would be great to post exactly the output of that command to pastebin
[16:21] <iceroot> ericus: its hard to search the infos here on multiple lines if the layout is broken
[16:21] <ubukou> hd 3850
[16:21] <iceroot> ericus: see text from ubottu about paste
[16:21] <ubukou> dlentz, hd3850
[16:21] <zul0> Hi, anyone can help me with a question about compact wireless?
[16:21] <iceroot> !ask | zul0
[16:22] <Slart> zul0: just ask.. if someone knows the answer they will probably tell you
[16:22] <ubukou> dlentz, is there a way to see what driver im running? command? so i can help to understand?
[16:22] <ericus> iceroot: http://pastebin.com/ki6dXwU4
[16:23] <ericus> does that look ok?
[16:23] <ubukou> dlentz, there is no drivers listed in the hardware drivers panel.. so i assume im running ubuntu's drivers. i also have dual screen configuration
[16:23] <iceroot> ericus: yes everything fine, you are using the official backported kernel and will get security updates
[16:23] <mibr001> GPU OVERHEATING HELP FAST
[16:24] <psychoshield> Hello i was told by my hosting provider to write to /dev/sda2 i could do a sym link and they did this ln -s /dev/sda2/path/to/folder/to/write/in /home/psycho/new however its not seeing the folder that i wrote as the user any ideas?
[16:24] <mibr001> UBUNTU 10.10 ON ASPIRE 5520
[16:24] <psychoshield> dev/sda2 is /var
[16:24] <iceroot> psychoshield: they told you to use /dev/sda2/path/...?
[16:24] <free-tpb> How do i controle my cpu fan-speed in ubuntu 10.4 LTS
[16:24] <mibr001> AT 70 DEGREES not good
[16:24] <ericus> awesome, thank you very much iceroot
[16:24] <ikonia> mibr001: turn it off first then
[16:24] <ikonia> mibr001: don't risk damage
[16:25] <iceroot> mibr001: 70 degrees is not unnormal for gpus
[16:25] <zul0> well, i want install latest compact wireless drivers. I have ath9k driver. i saw here http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k that my device is in suported chipsets and i want know if my device must be too in avaible devices list
[16:25] <Slart> iceroot: I wouldn't worry until it goes above 90 or so
[16:25] <glenn> how can install thunderbird 10 ubuntu bay ppa
[16:25] <Slart> iceroot: oops, sorry
[16:26] <iceroot> Slart: i think so too
[16:26] <Slart> mibr001: I wouldn't worry until it goes above 90 or so
[16:26] <iceroot> Slart: mibr001 but maybe for a laptop is a high value but i dont think its critical
[16:27] <glenn> how can i install thunderbird 10 by ppa
[16:28] <ubukou> anyone using hd 3850 with compiz?
[16:28] <Slart> thunderbird 10? wasn't thunderbird at like 3.0 not so long ago?
[16:29] <glda19> how to isntall thunderbird 10 by ppa
[16:31] <psychoshield> iceroot ya cause i asked how to write to /dev/sda2 since its a bigger
[16:31] <psychoshield> the hdd is split into two drives i guess
[16:32] <ericus> This might be a stupid question, but my BIOS battery in my netbook is getting discharged when I leave it off some time. Is the BIOS battery recharging when AC power is plugged in, and the netbook battery removed?
[16:32] <glda19> is thunderbird 10 avable by ppa
[16:32] <dlentz> Slart, the new thundebird/ff versionig scheme is meant to raise version numbers rapidly to compete ewith chrome
[16:32] <adom> running gnome2 in 10.04...i removed my little volume icon from next to the date/time spot in my top toolbar, how do i get the volume icon back?
[16:33] <Psycho> weird i got d/c
[16:33] <Psycho> im gonna pastebin the df -H
[16:33] <glda19> how can in install the last version of thunderbird
[16:33] <Slart> dlentz: ah.. in some weird way that actually makes sense.. weird sense.. but still =)
[16:33] <Pici> !patience | glda19
[16:33] <Psycho> http://pastebin.com/MZHs2Mr7
[16:34] <Slart> ericus: BIOS batteries has a tendency to go bad with age, in my experience.. they just won't hold a charge any more. I think it's meant to be loaded whenever there is power to the system
[16:35] <ericus> Slart: Yeah, I'm guessing it's bad
[16:35] <Slart> ericus: it's not really anything you can do about it from the software side of things.. sometimes you can replace the battery but sometimes it's just welded on
[16:35] <ebone> Hi
[16:35] <ericus> I've opened the netbook to change the HDD
[16:35] <ebone> My system doesn't seem to be updating the display manager properly.
[16:36] <ericus> the BIOS battery is easilly replaced, but expensive
[16:36] <ebone> Can anyone tell me where/how this is done?
[16:36] <ericus> Doesnt matter, I can live with a bad bios battery
[16:36] <Psychoshield> iceroot still around?
[16:37] <Slart> ebone: you'll have to explain that a bit more. Why do you think it's not updating the display manager? are there error messages? what version of ubuntu are you running?
[16:37] <Psychoshield> since dev/sda2 is mounted on /var wouldnt the symlink just be /var part?
[16:38] <Psychoshield> so like ln -s /var/path/to/folder/to/write/in /home/psycho/new
[16:39] <Gryphus71> Hello, can anyone confirm to me that logic configuration ? Porgrams "use" > proxy/http (polipo) "use" > socks (tor) ?
[16:40] <Psychoshield> think everyone went for lunch lol
[16:40] <zykotick9> adom: add to panel, then indicator-something, i believe
[16:41] <Ronis_BR> hi all, how can I correct the error dkms.conf: Error! No 'BUILT_MODULE_NAME' directive specified for record #0.
[16:41] <ericus> indicator-applet
[16:41] <BlackWar> why i get no sound when i run a wine application in a new X session?
[16:41] <BlackWar> i am using the command startx <WINE COMMAND> -- :1
[16:42] <theadmin> BlackWar: Probably that runs before pulseaudio starts?
[16:43] <BlackWar> is there some work around theadmin ?
[16:43] <Psychoshield> when someone has a chance still waiting :)
[16:43] <ekx> Anyone happen to know a diff program that lets me paste the text I want to compare?
[16:43] <theadmin> BlackWar: Not sure. I think you need to run "pulseaudio -d" in the session first.
[16:43] <BlackWar> hmm
[16:43] <BlackWar> ok
[16:43] <dr_willis> ekx:  ive seen some gui diff front ends in the repos. but never used any.
[16:44] <ekx> hmm... guess I'm gonna have to create new files.
[16:44] <Psychoshield> since dev/sda2 is mounted on /var wouldnt the symlink just be /var part? so like ln -s /var/path/to/folder/to/write/in /home/psycho/new
[16:44] <ekx> ty
[16:45] <dr_willis> Psychoshield:  try it and see?
[16:45] <dr_willis> i alwyas get ln -s arguments backwards
[16:45] <Psychoshield> just dont know the permissions to let myself write to it from my deluge
[16:45] <dr_willis> why would you want deluge to write to /var?
[16:45] <BlackWar> theadmin, any ideas how i would right the command out?
[16:46] <theadmin> BlackWar: No, sorry.
[16:46] <BlackWar> Ok, Somebody please knows how to do it/
[16:46] <Psychoshield> because how they setup the hard drive / only has 17gb left and /var has 921gb
[16:46] <theadmin> I haven't used "startx" to start X in ages, only know of "xinit" myself >.<
[16:46] <dr_willis> Psychoshield:  you could just move your home dir to /var/  the /var/whatever dir - should have the same permissions as your users home if you want the user to have full access to it.
[16:47] <dr_willis> seems odd to have such free space in /var/ but i never use a seperate /var/ partion either
[16:47] <Psychoshield> too much work that way lol
[16:47] <dr_willis> its rather trivial actually...
[16:47] <dr_willis> !movehome
[16:47] <imbezol> mv /home /var && ln -s /var/home /home
[16:48] <Gryphus71> Hey dr_willis ;)
[16:48] <dr_willis> or do it for a single user.
[16:48] <adom> zykotick9: that adds to panel, but how do i get it back over with the date/time and other systray stuff?
[16:48] <dr_willis> link /home/youryser to /var/home2/youruser or similer.
[16:48] <dr_willis> ln is so handy
[16:48] <dr_willis> I have to wonder who would set up /var/ on its own partion but not /home/
[16:48] <zykotick9> adom: unlock stuff, then drag - i believe
[16:48] <dr_willis> unless your /home/ partion is just full :)
[16:49] <iceroot> Psychoshield: yes, you cant write on /dev/sdaX you have to mount it and use that path instead
[16:49] <rymate1234> hey
[16:49] <rymate1234> Can someone recommend a good linux game?
[16:49] <adom> zykotick9: i right click, click move, and drag, but it only lets me drag left of the systray area, wont go into the systray area with the date/time and other stuff
[16:49] <dr_willis> rymate1234:  'wesnoth'
[16:50] <iceroot> rymate1234: world of goo, quake 4, doom3, ut 2004
[16:50] <dr_willis> !find wesnoth
[16:50] <Dudes> wow lost net again
[16:50] <zykotick9> adom: you need to unlock it first probably
[16:50] <adom> for example, i googled around, and if you type gnome-volume-control-applet in a terminal, it will show it temporarily where it belongs next to date/time
[16:50] <free-tpb> Tuxkart is cool beans
[16:50] <dr_willis> theres a new humble indie bundle out. :)
[16:50] <dr_willis> $6 for a few decent games
[16:51] <rymate1234> dr_willis: wats wesnoth
[16:51] <iceroot> dr_willis: with world of goo if you pay more then the common price :)
[16:51] <adom> zykotick9: locking/unlocking just prevents from moving...i can move it fine
[16:51] <dr_willis> !info wesnoth | rymate1234
[16:51] <rymate1234> ah
[16:51] <rymate1234> ok
[16:51] <dr_willis> !info freeciv
[16:51] <iceroot> !games | rymate1234
[16:51] <zykotick9> adom: whatever is currently occupying the stop you want to move it to, be sure it is unlocked
[16:51] <dr_willis> Hmm theres some freeciv if you like Civilization type games. :) and dont forget the 'Settlers' game if you like the Setlers of Catan game
[16:52] <Slart> !info freeciv-client-gtk
[16:52] <zykotick9> adom: s/stop/spot/
[16:52]  * rymate1234 likes civ type games
[16:52] <dr_willis> I perfer 'FreeCol'
[16:52] <dr_willis> Colonization Clone
[16:53] <adom> zykotick9: i dont think thats it. i tried unlocking the time/date but you still cant drag indicators (including volume icon) to that area
[16:53] <dr_willis> plays better then the Sid Meirs Remake of Colonization i have.
[16:53] <adom> i guess i could create a startup daemon for gnome-volume-control-applet ...
[16:53] <iceroot> rymate1234: there is also a0d (or aod) age of empires for linux
[16:53] <adom> seems unecessary but should work
[16:53] <iceroot> or was it a0e? i cant remember
[16:54] <Gryphus71> dr_willis, hi, im back with my tor problems ^^' if i just want to use polipo, my configs need to be : programs use > polipo (proxy/http-s) use tor (socks) ?
[16:54] <tomreyn> hi, i'm having trouble running virtualbox since the driver modules are not built automatically, i'm on oneiric (have -proposed and xorg-edgers activated)
[16:54] <Bonaparte> I'm unable to start MySQL service on Ubuntu 11.1. `service mysql start` gives error: start: Job failed to start
[16:54] <tomreyn> i'm trying to find the root cause, but having trouble, can someone guide me through?
[16:55] <dr_willis> Gryphus71:  Not sure. but i belive thats how tor works.  i last used tor ages ago it went  app -> proxy -> tor.
[16:56] <Gryphus71> dr_willis, ok thx you doc ! ;)
[16:56] <Bonaparte> How can I fix my MySQL issue? It's a local box with no important data. I also tried removing and installing. There are some errors in dpkg
[16:56] <zul0> anyone know if compact-wireless have irc channel?
[16:57] <ikonia> look at the errors
[16:57] <ikonia> check the error log
[16:57] <Bonaparte> http://paste2.org/p/1892043  - these are the errors
[16:58] <ikonia> Bonaparte: thats the install log, try to start it and look at the error logs
[16:58] <ikonia> Bonaparte: that is you trying to remove it
[16:59] <tomreyn> Bonaparte: this is a bug in the mysql-server postrm script apparently. you should file a bug.
[16:59] <zul0> hi! anyone can help me with make error in compact wireless?
[16:59] <rcmaehl> I find it funny that the linux install on my flash drive is faster than the Windows 7 Professional on the computers at my school. I mean linux is running off a flash drive that has like 1/10 the read/write speed of a HDD
[16:59] <tomreyn> as a workaround, if you don't mind loosing your configuration _and databases_ you can use this instead: sudo apt-get purge mysql-server
[17:01] <Unbekannter> hi
[17:01] <Unbekannter> is there a ubuntu irc channel in german?
[17:01] <Unbekannter> because my english is not very good
[17:01] <rcmaehl> !german
[17:01] <tomreyn> Greetings to Kolkwitz, Unbekannter
[17:07] <LiNuX`sup> hello fellow ubuntu users. I have a small issue I'm hoping someone can help me with...
[17:07] <LiNuX`sup> I believe that I "accidently" disabled something that would allow me to share my local "home" folder with my home pc through "RDC" How to enable this again?
[17:07] <dr_willis> LiNuX`sup:  you mean as a windows network neighborhood type share?
[17:07] <LiNuX`sup> I'm running ubuntu 11.10 and using remmina remote desktop to connect to windows 7 machine
[17:08] <dr_willis> I think the term 'share' may be getting used in differnt ways :)
[17:08] <LiNuX`sup> dr_willis: in the past when I would connect it would automount a drive that linked to my ubuntu home folder in windows
[17:09] <dr_willis> never used remmina - so no idea how its accessing a remote system.
[17:09] <dr_willis> never even heard of remmina :)
[17:09] <LiNuX`sup> through RDC
[17:09] <LiNuX`sup> there's no settings within remmina
[17:09] <LiNuX`sup> it's something within the ubuntu settings
[17:09] <LiNuX`sup> is there a list of avauilable services
[17:09] <dr_willis> you need to determine what service its using. samba, or ssh, or nfs.
[17:09] <LiNuX`sup> available*
[17:10] <LiNuX`sup> let me look into that
[17:10] <MylesMan> hello all
[17:11] <duke79> #irchelp
[17:11] <MylesMan> is there an HDMI CEC pkg for ubuntu so that my tv will tur on when i but up my myth box?
[17:12] <MylesMan> boot up *
[17:13] <ericus> any idea why rtorrent reports bad chunks on every torrent?
[17:13] <ericus> transmission works great
[17:15] <elspru> hey is there an ubuntu mail client that auto-supports contacts?  Evolution is an absolute attrocity, it doesn't seem to realize people I email, are my contacts...
[17:16] <ikonia> elspru: where are you storing your contacts ?
[17:16] <elspru> I'm not, in gmail, anyone that I email, is a contact, and I can easily type their email.
[17:16] <ikonia> elspru: thunderbird will deal with that if you store the contacts in a compatible contact application
[17:17] <LiNuX`sup> dr_willis: remmina is using RDP to connect to my windows
[17:18] <elspru> it's just I've never stored contacts before...
[17:19] <Gateway`> hello everybody
[17:19] <Gateway`> I would like to list the images presents on my system ? what file to cat ?
[17:19] <elspru> the evolution contact manager is waaaaay too complicated,  though ya maybe I'll install thunderbird, hopefully it'll be better.
[17:19] <kralle> is there any hotspot software for ubunto 10 ?
[17:20] <Gryphus71> good bye all and thx
[17:20] <dr_willis> LiNuX`sup:  never really used RDP. but i thought RDP was for remote Desktp access, not accessing a 'share' like thing.
[17:20] <dr_willis> !rdp
[17:21] <LiNuX`sup> !rdp
[17:21] <LiNuX`sup> !remote desktop protocol
[17:21] <LiNuX`sup> lol
[17:23] <Akls> How can I send MIDI signals from command line? For example if I want C5 to be played
[17:24] <gulzar> which GUI app is this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Alsa_v1.0.14_ubuntu7.1_en.png . was searching for it for long time
[17:24] <Akls> gulzar, gamix maybe
[17:24] <llutz> gulzar: alsamixer(gui)
[17:24] <Gateway`> got it :)
[17:25] <toscho> hi
[17:25] <toscho> how can I change the "back" button on my laptop to "home" via setxkbmap?
[17:25] <gulzar> Akls: llutz: Thank You
[17:26] <ericus> How do I enable SSH as root on local LAN, but not from outside?
[17:26] <Akls> ericus, I think it should work this way by default. but I can be wrong
[17:27] <ericus> On my gateway, runs ClearOS, but I assume it's pretty much the same
[17:27] <scwizard> I thought mint was popular, but there's no real support channel for it :(
[17:28] <_NiC> ericus, I guess you can only allow login with keys, and specify a source ip for the key you add.
[17:28] <_NiC> ericus, it'll still be technically open for anything as long as you have the key though.
[17:28] <llutz> ericus: sshd_conf "AllowUsers root@192.168.x.y"
[17:29] <zykotick9> scwizard: did you see the !mint factoid, it has the irc network channel listed "/msg ubottu mint" if not.
[17:29] <nsd_> Hello
[17:29] <kapz> hello! I need to know how the startx is executed at boot time in ubuntu 11.10? I have to add a prefix to it...thanks
[17:29] <_NiC> ericus, or do what llutz says, which is much smarter. :-)
[17:29] <Tom22> Does anyone know where my config files for modules is?
[17:30] <zykotick9> Tom22: to load them?  see /etc/modules
[17:30] <_NiC> llutz, ericus, however .. isn't anything else then rejected, even other usernames?
[17:30] <ericus> thanks llutz :)
[17:30] <llutz> ericus: but i'd always use PermitRootLogin forced-commands-only" and use su/sudo
[17:30] <llutz> _NiC: yes, you have to specify ALL valid users then
[17:30] <ericus> Thing is, I have two users on the server. Root and me.
[17:30] <kapz> I mean where to look for the file where I can find startx while the OS boots...?
[17:31] <_NiC> ericus, well, in that case, adding all the users isn't a big hassle.. :)
[17:31] <ericus> I want to be able to login as root only from my LAN, and disalbe su for the other user
[17:31] <llutz> ericus: root should have an unprilegded accoutn to login too
[17:31] <zykotick9> kapz: startx isn't executed really, DM looks after starting xorg.
[17:31] <ericus> llutz: it's not ubuntu, but ClearOS
[17:31] <|DM|> zykotick9: no I don't.
[17:32] <llutz> ericus: and? su/sudo works on every linux when installed
[17:32] <Tom22> @ zykotick9 thank you :), is it normal for this file to be empy. AKA, the file existes (theres commented text), but no modules are specified.
[17:32] <kapz> oh in that case where to llok for DM execute command?
[17:32] <|DM|> I don't even know what DM is
[17:32] <kapz> *look
[17:32] <zykotick9> Tom22: by default it's empty ya
[17:32] <ericus> llutz: but there must be some way to disable su for my regular user?
[17:32] <llutz> ericus: just don't give him the root-password
[17:32] <ericus> and also chroot that user to it's /home
[17:32] <supNow> I'm having issues accessing my home folder (local machine) from my home computer via remote connection from local machine to home. It used to automount a drive to my home computer after connecting, but doesn't any longer. I may have accidentally disabled a service? Can anyone help?
[17:32] <zykotick9> kapz: it's started by upstart, look at /etc/init/ directory
[17:32] <Tom22> zykotick9 thanks. I'm hoping that adding "alias char-major-14 maestro" will solve my no sound problem. I've run out of options :S
[17:33] <Vako> is there an aircrack chan here?
[17:33] <nsd_> I'm having some issues getting public key authentication to work with an openssh server. I have not edited /etc/sshd_config from the default, although I have checked and the AuthorizedKeysFile and PubKeyAuthentication appear properly set. I have the public key that I would like to use in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the remote machine, but I am not prompted for a passphrase. Anyone know their way around ssh that could help me?
[17:33] <nsd_> I should note that when I say I am not prompted for a passphrase, I mean it asks for a password, which evidently is not what I am supposed to see.
[17:33] <llutz> ericus: there are lots of tutorials how to chroot users into $HOME using ssh or rbash
[17:33] <Akls> Vako maybe you should try backtrack channel
[17:33] <DinoMuffin> nsd_: are you trying to use private key authentication/
[17:34] <ericus> llutz: the other user is me, so i know the password..
[17:34] <nsd_> DinoMuffin: Yes.
[17:34] <DinoMuffin> nsd_: did you generate the RSA keys?
[17:34] <azmodeus> hi guys... does anybody knows where can I find some documentation over backtrack?
[17:34] <ericus> two users, root and ericus
[17:34] <llutz> ericus: that makes no sense
[17:34] <tomreyn> nsd_: if you can watch auth.log on the remote machine you're trying to authenticate to.
[17:34] <ericus> but I want to disable su for ericus
[17:34] <nsd_> DinoMuffin: Yes, and I copied the contents of the public key to the authorized_keys file on the remote machine
[17:34] <llutz> ericus: just don't use su then, why would you disable it
[17:34] <nsd_> tomreyn: I will try that.
[17:34] <iceroot> ericus: there is no reason to disable su
[17:34] <DinoMuffin> nsd_: make sure the file permissions are correct
[17:35] <ericus> llutz: to make it more secure when opening ssh
[17:35] <iceroot> ericus: if i know the password of the user i dont need su, i just need ssh user@host or tty1 loginprompt
[17:35] <nsd_> DinoMuffin: What do they need to be set to? As of right now I have u=r,og=r
[17:35] <llutz> ericus: how would that be more secure?
[17:35] <tomreyn> nsd_: a common mistake is not to set the permissions on ~/.ssh/authorized_keys properly (only the owning user should be able to read and optionally write to it), as are spelling mistakes on the filename
[17:35] <DinoMuffin> nsd_: I believe it should be chmod'd to 400
[17:35] <kapz> zykotick9: thanks! I opened lightdm.conf but I am unable to make out anything...all I want to do is start Xorg/gnome session with 'optirun' command prefixed...how do I do that?
[17:35] <DinoMuffin> nsd_: let me verify that
[17:35] <ericus> iceroot: root login is not allowed on the server
[17:35] <iceroot> ericus: su is not only for root
[17:36] <llutz> ericus: su needs the root-password. so if your account get hacked, the intruder has to know the root-pw too
[17:36] <iceroot> ericus: what about sudo -i
[17:36] <nsd_> DinoMuffin: I don't know the what the octal values correspond to off the top of my head.
[17:36] <zykotick9> kapz: sorry i have no idea how you'd do that.  or what optirun is for that matter.  best of luck.
[17:36] <iceroot> ericus: now i have a rootshell doesnt matter if you disabled su
[17:36] <ericus> let me explain
[17:36] <iceroot> ericus: no need to explain
[17:36] <DinoMuffin> nsd_: it should be -r--------
[17:36] <supNow> I'm having issues accessing my home folder (local machine) from my home computer via remote connection from local machine to home. It used to automount a drive to my home computer after connecting, but doesn't any longer. I may have accidentally disabled a service? Can anyone help?
[17:36] <nsd_> DinoMuffin: Also, the various tutorials I have found online seemed to vary with regards to how permissive or otherwise they were.
[17:36] <iceroot> ericus: disabling "su" is useless and i bet it will break some things
[17:36] <DinoMuffin> nsd_: or just run chmod 400 on the file
[17:36] <tomreyn> nsd_: chmod u+r-wx,g-rwx,o-rwx ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[17:37] <zykotick9> kapz: bumblebee, i see
[17:37] <tomreyn> nsd_: or just 400 ;)
[17:37] <kapz> zykotick9: No worries mate, and thanks for all the help! btw optirun is used for running optimus card
[17:37] <nsd_> tomreyn: You know that can just be chmod u=rwx,og= right?
[17:37] <ericus> if i'd like to enable login as root only on LAN, and ssh for user ericus from external
[17:37] <kapz> zykotick9: yep!
[17:37] <nsd_> tomreyn: I like the u=,o=,g syntax
[17:37] <DinoMuffin> nsd_: chmod 400 works fine on my debian server
[17:37] <ericus> i want to disable ericus to run su
[17:37] <lizm> morning
[17:37] <nsd_> DinoMuffin, tomreyn: I will try that
[17:37] <ericus> there is no need for that user to be superuser
[17:37] <llutz> ericus:1st goal:  sshd_conf "AllowUsers root@192.168.x.y ericus"
[17:38] <iceroot> ericus: just dont give him the rott-password
[17:38] <supNow> how do you get a response in here.... is there a line formed somewhere... do I take a number?
[17:38] <tomreyn> nsd_: didn't know this for sure, so i opted for the longer syntax. thanks for the hint.
[17:38] <zykotick9> !ask | supNow
[17:38] <iceroot> ericus: thats how security is working, not giving passwords away
[17:38] <ericus> iceroot: again, i am the other user, so i know the root passwd already
[17:38] <nsd_> tomreyn: np
[17:38] <supNow> I'm having issues accessing my home folder (local machine) from my home computer via remote connection from local machine to home. It used to automount a drive to my home computer after connecting, but doesn't any longer. I may have accidentally disabled a service? Can anyone help?
[17:38] <iceroot> ericus: that does not make sense
[17:38] <ericus> iceroot: it's not ubuntu, it's clearos
[17:39] <iceroot> ericus: #clearos
[17:39] <toscho> how can I change the "back" button on my laptop to "home" via setxkbmap?
[17:39] <ericus> which has root user by default
[17:39] <Tom22> is anyone able to help me get my soundcard working?
[17:39] <theadmin> ericus: Then it's not supported here.
[17:39] <grubbyone> I'm having trouble with booting some ISOs from usb, http://pastebin.com/9cqP1ZfT , the desktop ISOs boot up fine, but the server versions are giving me error 15, file not found
[17:39] <iceroot> great :)
[17:39] <dagerik> supNow: Try mounting manually?
[17:39] <ericus> thought you might be able to help
[17:39] <iceroot> ericus: of course you can disbale root-login like in ubuntu
[17:39] <theadmin> toscho: xmodmap -e 'keysym XF86Back=XF86Home'
[17:39] <iceroot> ericus: with a invalid password
[17:40] <nsd_> tomreyn, DinoMuffin: Aha! My AllowUsers line was syntactically incorrect apparently; auth.log says as much ("User X from 192.168.0.Y not allowed because not listed in AllowUsers")
[17:40] <supNow> dagerik: is there a services list for ubuntu 11.10 similar to what windows has?
[17:40] <Tom22> is anyone able to help me get my soundcard working?
[17:40] <supNow> dagerik: or a group policy?
[17:40] <llutz> ericus: chown root:wheel $(which su) && chmod 4550 $(which su)                     add those users to group "wheel", which should be able to use us
[17:40] <llutz> su*
[17:40] <DinoMuffin> nsd_: ah, well that would do it
[17:40] <toscho> ok, I need a solution without xmodmap as it is incompatible with setxkbmap
[17:40] <dagerik> supNow: I dont know windows im afraid
[17:40] <supNow> dagerik: I wish I didn't
[17:40] <llutz> ericus: it still makes no sense, but ...
[17:40] <theadmin> toscho: I don't think setxkbmap allows to change layouts with the command, you probably need to modify the keymaps in xorg.conf or even manually
[17:41] <tomreyn> nsd_: "I have not edited /etc/sshd_config" wasn't entirely right then, hmm? ;)
[17:41] <nsd_> DinoMuffin: Actually, I checked the file against the man page and it appears correct. Perhaps I need to restart openssh?
[17:41] <Tom22> is anyone able to help me get my soundcard working?
[17:41] <nsd_> tomreyn: Lol I guess not.
[17:41] <jgm_> does the software-center bug about not detecting network connection when not using NetworkManager to handle networking is on schedule for a fix?
[17:41] <DinoMuffin> nsd_: any time you modify sshd_conf, you should restart ssh
[17:41] <nsd_> DinoMuffin: I was unaware.
[17:41] <toscho> where is xorg.conf located in lubuntu?
[17:41] <zykotick9> !details | Tom22
[17:41] <iceroot> toscho: /etc/X11/
[17:41] <nsd_> DinoMuffin, tomreyn: It works now, thanks for your help
[17:41] <DinoMuffin> nsd_: no prob
[17:42] <tomreyn> nsd_: force-reload is actually enough, but i'm not sure there's much of a difference there.
[17:42] <iceroot> jgm_: the launchpad-bug should tell you
[17:42] <ericus> iceroot: Yes, I've disabled root via SSH for the root account, but I need to enable it for LAN ONLY. And I also have a second account, ericus, that can login via SSH. and ericus can run su, and I want to disable that.
[17:42] <iceroot> ericus: #clearos
[17:42] <zykotick9> toscho: it might not be there by default
[17:42] <raj> how do you log out of an ssh session?
[17:42] <iceroot> raj: exit
[17:42] <ericus> iceroot: dead channel :/
[17:42] <raj> thanks
[17:42] <jgm_> iceroot, :) was hoping some one here knew about that
[17:42] <imbezol> ctrl-d
[17:43] <iceroot> ericus: maybe but this channel is for ubuntu
[17:43] <toscho> ok, how do I change the keys in xorg.conf?
[17:43] <DinoMuffin> ericus: why is it such a big deal that the other account has su when you're the only other user?
[17:43] <tomreyn> hi, i'm on ubuntu 11.10 (oneiric), with oneiric-proposed and xorg-edgers repositories activated, and having trouble running any virtual machines since the driver modules are not loaded, and may not have been built by dkms automatically.
[17:43] <ericus> DinoMuffin: because if someone, somehow gets access to my user and my su-password that would be bad
[17:44] <tomreyn> i'm trying to find out why this is so I can make a proper bug report against virtualbox (the ubuntu package), but am having trouble finding the root cause, can someone guide me through?
[17:44] <Tom22> my alsamixer looks like this: http://i42.tinypic.com/6z64j7.png
[17:44] <llutz> ericus: if that happens, you did something wrong
[17:44] <grubbyone> is it possible to boot ubuntu server ISOs using grub4dos?
[17:44] <DinoMuffin> ericus: you're worried about ssh right? Just run with a privatekey + password if you're that worried
[17:44] <ModusPwnens> I wrote a script to run at shutdown and I called update-rc.d but it's not being executed. Can someone help me resolve it? I've never written a shutdown script before.
[17:44] <DinoMuffin> ericus: the hances of that being hacked is extremely slim
[17:45] <iceroot> ericus: you are using a dead os with sudo-root-exploit, maybe the linux3.x root-exploit (proc/mom*) and you are afraid someone will guess your root-password?
[17:45] <Tom22> Hey. I'm unable to get my soundcard working. (Works on my Windows partition), On ubuntu, all I get is a constant static sound which changes when opening menus, and fiddling with sound settings. my alsamixer looks like this: http://i42.tinypic.com/6z64j7.png
[17:45] <jonathon> Is it possible to rollback to right before I installed something?
[17:45] <theadmin> ModusPwnens: Most likely you just want to call the script from /etc/rc.shutdown
[17:45] <theadmin> ModusPwnens: Simpliest for such tasks.
[17:45] <iceroot> jonathon: only with your backup
[17:45] <llutz> ericus: how should an attacker get the root-pw? by torturing you? then you have other problems, than your root-account
[17:45] <jonathon> iceroot, and if I didn't make a backub?
[17:45] <ModusPwnens> theadmin,  but what if I want to get it working with the update-rc.d method?
[17:45] <iceroot> jonathon: then you know why a backup is important
[17:45] <jonathon> >.>
[17:46] <theadmin> ModusPwnens: I don't think that even does anything with Upstart
[17:46] <ModusPwnens> I know Upstart is the newer method, but I thought that update-rc.d still worked
[17:46] <Tom22> Hey. I'm unable to get my soundcard working. (Works on my Windows partition), On ubuntu, all I get is a constant static sound which changes when opening menus, and fiddling with sound settings. my alsamixer looks like this: http://i42.tinypic.com/6z64j7.png
[17:47] <genius_> hola
[17:47] <zykotick9> Tom22: don't repeat your message every 2 minutes - sharing what model of soundcard you have might help as well.  Good luck.
[17:48] <Tom22> @ zykotick9 its an ESS ES1978 (Maestro 2E)
[17:48] <ModusPwnens> does anyone have experience using update-rc.d to add shutdown/startup scripts?
[17:48] <DinoMuffin> Tom22: what level is the PCM bar at?
[17:48] <blahsphemer> how do I write a script to monitor the number of files in a directory
[17:48] <iceroot> blahsphemer: #bash
[17:48] <john_doe_jr> Hey, I got 2 files of the same name and want to copy files in the source directory to the destination directory....how do I do that?
[17:48] <blahsphemer> iceroot, ok
[17:49] <imbezol> ericus: i think the user has to belong to the group wheel to su as well
[17:49] <Tom22> DinoMuffin, I'm assuming you mean something on alsamixer? http://i42.tinypic.com/6z64j7.png
[17:49] <imbezol> ericus: might want to test that with a test user though
[17:49] <DinoMuffin> Tom22: oh
[17:49] <iceroot> ericus: also thing about that e.g. python has a own su-implementation
[17:49] <iceroot> ericus: have fun to isable that also
[17:49] <john_doe_jr> anybody?
[17:50] <iceroot> ericus: and i bet we will always find one more possibility to run su then you can disable
[17:50] <Slart> blahsphemer: watch "ls /some/dir | wc -l" might work for just a quick checker
[17:50] <DinoMuffin> john_doe_jr: uh, "cp <file> <destination>"?
[17:50] <soul> Hi guys, I need help. I actually have windows 7 installed before i have Ubuntu 11.10. Since i have installed my Ubuntu, I can't view my windows 7 files and my other partition disk. Actually I did not care wiping it out when installing Ubuntu because I thought it can be view inside Ubuntu. Now my question is, is it possible that i can manage the files or viewing the files in my previous c:/ and my other partition disk ?
[17:50] <imbezol> iceroot: you don't disable su... you enable pam protections
[17:50] <iceroot> imbezol: he wants to disable su
[17:50] <imbezol> iceroot: the libraries define how that authorization is checked
[17:51] <john_doe_jr> DinoMuffin, the source has files and directories though
[17:51] <Tom22> @ zykotick9 & DinoMuffin I'm out of ideas :S Been trying to work this out for ages
[17:51] <blahsphemer> Slart, I need something like: if #files in current directory>1000, call notify-send
[17:51] <DinoMuffin> john_doe_jr: cp -r will recursively copy what's in the directory
[17:51] <imbezol> iceroot: it would be simple enough to get a list of suid binaries on the system
[17:51] <Slart> blahsphemer: ah.. hang on then
[17:51] <imbezol> iceroot: really i think he needs to just set strong passwords and if he doesn't trust the user.. the user shouldn't have access
[17:52] <blahsphemer> Slart, ok
[17:52] <DinoMuffin> Tom22: is your soundcard on the supported hardware list?
[17:52] <iceroot> imbezol: as we are all saying
[17:52] <soul> Hi guys, I need help. I actually have windows 7 installed before i have Ubuntu 11.10. Since i have installed my Ubuntu, I can't view my windows 7 files and my other partition disk. Actually I did not care wiping it out when installing Ubuntu because I thought it can be view inside Ubuntu. Now my question is, is it possible that i can manage the files or viewing the files in my previous c:/ and my other partition disk ?
[17:52] <imbezol> iceroot: yup.. as soon as they have any access level there's potential
[17:52] <john_doe_jr> DinoMuffin, yup but the two folders are of the same name & it keeps creating a new folder of the same name in the destination directory and I don't know why
[17:52] <Tom22> @ DinoMuffin, alsa?
[17:53] <soul> Hi guys, I need help. I actually have windows 7 installed before i have Ubuntu 11.10. Since i have installed my Ubuntu, I can't view my windows 7 files and my other partition disk. Actually I did not care wiping it out when installing Ubuntu because I thought it can be view inside Ubuntu. Now my question is, is it possible that i can manage the files or viewing the files in my previous c:/ and my other partition disk ?
[17:53] <john_doe_jr> DinoMuffin, I think I just figured it out....I'm using sudo to copy and I think that this is causing the problem
[17:54] <Tom22> DinoMuffin, I guess not :S
[17:54] <soul> Hi guys, I need help. I actually have windows 7 installed before i have Ubuntu 11.10. Since i have installed my Ubuntu, I can't view my windows 7 files and my other partition disk. Actually I did not care wiping it out when installing Ubuntu because I thought it can be view inside Ubuntu. Now my question is, is it possible that i can manage the files or viewing the files in my previous c:/ and my other partition disk ?
[17:55] <DinoMuffin> Tom22: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/sound.html
[17:55] <DinoMuffin> i don't know if that list is up to date however
[17:55] <iceroot> !repeat | soul
[17:55] <Slart> blahsphemer: try this    if  [ `ls -1 /some/dir/ | wc -l` -gt 1000 ]; then
[17:55] <theadmin> soul: Ubuntu will normally show other partitions in the file manager, unless you wiped them when installing....
[17:56] <Slart> blahsphemer: ls -1 lists all files in a folder with 1 line per file.. wc counts words, lines and other stuff, wc -l only counts how many lines there are
[17:56] <blahsphemer> Slart, Running this is in an infinite loop?
[17:56] <iceroot> blahsphemer: please use "inotify" instead of this wc -l thing
[17:56] <Tom22> DinoMuffin: What can I do if my card isn't supported? :S
[17:56] <iceroot> !inotify | blahsphemer
[17:56] <vortex> olá
[17:56] <iceroot> :(
[17:56] <blahsphemer> iceroot, I was just looking into the man page for inotify
[17:56] <iceroot> blahsphemer: have a look around what inotify is
[17:56] <theadmin> blahsphemer: "if" will never result in an infinite loop...
[17:56] <theadmin> "if" is not even a loop as such.
[17:57] <DinoMuffin> Tom22: I'm not really familiar with soundcard drivers on linux. You might be able to find a linux driver on the company website
[17:57] <blahsphemer> theadmin, I know if is not a loop. But I need to run it "within" a loop
[17:57] <DinoMuffin> someone else might know better than I do
[17:57] <theadmin> blahsphemer: What exactly are you trying to do?
[17:57] <iceroot> blahsphemer: Slart and never use "ls" to read out a directory
[17:57] <theadmin> iceroot: Why not?
[17:57] <Slart> iceroot: why not?
[17:57] <vortex> helow
[17:58] <blahsphemer> theadmin, check if the number of files in a particular directory is > 10000, if yes, then call notify-send
[17:58] <iceroot> theadmin: Slart ls is not using the real filenames
[17:58] <theadmin> iceroot: ...?
[17:58] <theadmin> iceroot: It's not giving the full paths, but...
[17:58] <theadmin> iceroot: That's not exactly the problem here xD
[17:58] <Slart> iceroot: you mean you count links and such as well?
[17:58] <iceroot> theadmin: Slart touch foo\ bar, or touch `foo\nbar`
[17:59] <iceroot> Slart: theadmin the second example will result in 2 files when using ls to count
[17:59] <Slart> iceroot: ahh.. but ls -1 claims to use one line per file.. I'll have to try this.. just to see what it does
[17:59] <theadmin> blahsphemer: if [ $(ls --almost-all --escape -1) -gt 1000 ] ; then notify-send ... ; fi
[17:59] <theadmin> iceroot: ^
[17:59] <iceroot> Slart: theadmin always use "for a in ./*" instead
[18:00] <iceroot> theadmin: no, the solution is inotify
[18:00] <imbezol> iceroot: i disagree if only because i believe shell scripts should be portable
[18:01] <theadmin> iceroot: Not sure what that is, (s)he wants notify-send, I give the possible solution, heh...
[18:01] <iceroot> theadmin: Slart it was   touch $'foo\nbar'
[18:01] <imbezol> iceroot: anyways... i think when he's checking >1000 being off by one file that had a carriage return in the name might not be a big deal
[18:01] <iceroot> theadmin: inotify can check directories e.g. for changes or the amount of files
[18:01] <iceroot> imbezol: an if every file has it?
[18:02] <theadmin> iceroot: Hmm... I see.
[18:02] <iceroot> imbezol: or maybe touch $'a\nb\nc\nd\ne'
[18:02] <imbezol> iceroot: on my system (ubuntu 11.04) your touch command doesn't do what you think it does
[18:02] <theadmin> iceroot: When you use "ls --escape", you will see octal escapes for nongraphic characters (e.g. whitespace), therefore \n will be displayed literally as \n, not as a line escape... So.
[18:02] <imbezol> -rw-r--r-- 1 imbezol imbezol 0 2012-02-02 11:02 foo?bar
[18:03] <Slart> iceroot: hmm.. I'm trying to create a file with a linebreak in the name... none of the above has worked so far..but nevermind.. I'll play around with this. Thanks!
[18:04] <iceroot> Slart: touch $'a\n' && ls | less
[18:04] <iceroot> Slart: to see how ls is working when using a pipe
[18:04] <azi_> i've just set up some backup settings. is there a way to force the first backup to be made?
[18:04] <iceroot> Slart: ls is very evil and its acting different if it found a terminal or a pipe
[18:04] <iceroot> Slart: touch $'a\nb' && ls | less
[18:05] <Slart> iceroot: ahh.. it just does that when you use the pipe.. -1 doesn't help, it will still show as two lines
[18:05] <iceroot> Slart: that will result in 2 lines
[18:05] <jonathon> How can I edit what programs load up at start?
[18:05] <imbezol> iceroot: you are correct.. piping the ls into a file shows the line break
[18:05] <iceroot> Slart: touch $'a\nb' && ls | wc -l   will show 2
[18:05] <Slart> iceroot: so, ls *is* evil after all =)
[18:05] <theadmin> Hamsters.
[18:05] <iceroot> Slart: as i said earlier
[18:05] <ssta> why on earth would you put a line break in a filename?
[18:05] <theadmin> You're not listening to me, --escape unevilifies ls...
[18:05] <iceroot> ssta: because its allowed
[18:06] <ssta> iceroot: well, yes.  so are lots of things.  Doesn't make them a good idea
[18:06] <DinoMuffin> ^
[18:06] <iceroot> ssta: why on earth would you put a white space in a filename?
[18:06] <theadmin> ssta: "not a good idea" doesn't mean that's not possible xD
[18:06] <ssta> iceroot: anyway, ls and wc are both performing as documented there
[18:06] <ssta> iceroot: I wouldn't
[18:06] <jonathon> How can I edit what programs load up at start?
[18:07] <theadmin> jonathon: Depends. GUI? CLI?
[18:07] <jonathon> theadmin, GUI Preferred, but CLI is fine
[18:07] <theadmin> jonathon: I mean, do you want them to start-up when your desktop loads? Or do you mean daemons (Window$ term: Services)?
[18:07] <iceroot> ssta: and because there are strange specialcases there a good ways (for a in ./*) and bad ways (ls | do something)
[18:08] <jonathon> Oh, Daemons
[18:08] <theadmin> jonathon: I think there are a few, search the software center. I used to use rcconf, but there are reports that this stopped working. Not sure if so though.
[18:08] <jonathon> What would I search under?
[18:09] <theadmin> jonathon: Eh, just type "daemon" or "service" in the search bar
[18:09] <ssta> iceroot: for x in... type constructs break on files with any whitespace...
[18:09] <iceroot> ssta: quote
[18:09] <DinoMuffin> iceroot: that's actaully pretty neat
[18:10] <imbezol> iceroot: so what's a portable way to do it? i doubt inotify is available on hpux and aix for example
[18:10] <dijonyummy> is there an csh debugger for ubuntu or linux
[18:10] <zykotick9> jonathon: you might want to try bum (i haven't used it, i still use rcconf but not sure you should use that in ubuntu)
[18:10] <DinoMuffin> iceroot: wonder if other flags can be injected
[18:10] <T_H_X> w'sup with sookbook
[18:10] <theadmin> dijonyummy: How on earth do you want to "debug" csh? It's a shell... Please rephrase.
[18:10] <iceroot> ssta: for a in ./* do echo "$a" done    there are never problems with white-spaces in $a when you use "$a"
[18:10] <jonathon> I found rcconf, I'll check out bum too
[18:10] <ssta> "Doctor, it hurts when I stab myself in the eye"...
[18:11] <iceroot> imbezol: on every linux
[18:11] <iceroot> imbezol: on every linux with 2.6.x if i am correct, 2.4 does not have inotify
[18:12] <theadmin> iceroot: You say "2.6.x" as if you're forgetting we moved to 3.x for a while now xD
[18:12] <iceroot> theadmin: :)
[18:12] <theadmin> 2.6.x or greater.
[18:12] <iceroot> theadmin: of course :)
[18:12] <imbezol> iceroot: not sure i catch your meaning. what's a portable way, 2.4, 2.6, commercial unix, etc..
[18:12] <jonathon> zykotick9, Alright, bum works, thanks
[18:13] <theadmin> imbezol: If you want scripts to be THAT portable, you probably want to write them for original sh (or dash, as it's called now)
[18:13] <MonkeyDust> portable way? commercial unix?
[18:13] <imbezol> theadmin: indeed
[18:13] <iceroot> imbezol: find
[18:14] <iceroot> imbezol: find foobar | wc -l
[18:14] <imbezol> find has the same problem as ls if you just print
[18:14] <imbezol> nope, doesn't work.. does the same as ls
[18:14] <iceroot> imbezol: not if using this print0 thing with xargs
[18:14] <iceroot> cant remeber the syntax
[18:14] <imbezol> example?
[18:14] <manuel_dj> ciao
[18:14] <manuel_dj> !list
[18:14] <iceroot> imbezol: manpage  cant remeber it
[18:15] <imbezol> > find . -maxdepth 1 -name 'foo*' | wc -l   = 2
[18:15] <imbezol> find . -maxdepth 1 -name 'foo*' -print | wc -l   = 2
[18:15] <manuel_dj> ciao
[18:15] <theadmin> God, use 'find -fls' or 'ls --escape'. Now pkill argument.
[18:15] <manuel_dj> !list
[18:15] <theadmin> What is with you people >.<
[18:15] <iceroot> theadmin: we are interestied in the topic
[18:15] <jonathon> Ok now, Anyone know a good program to edit start up programs?
[18:16] <iceroot> theadmin: its not a bad idea to discuss solutions
[18:16] <theadmin> iceroot: But those ways I suggest work and you're ignoring me altogether
[18:16] <CarlFK> theadmin: xkcd/386 :)
[18:16] <imbezol> theadmin: except that --escape is a gnu way
[18:16] <theadmin> CarlFK: Hehe :D Good one
[18:17] <theadmin> imbezol: Well then, "-b". Does the same.
[18:17] <theadmin> But looks ugly and senseless though xD
[18:18] <imbezol> theadmin: good to know.. interesting that the actual file creation doesn't work under sh though
[18:18] <imbezol> theadmin: anyways.. back to work here :)
[18:18] <raven> how to display logged in users?
[18:18] <llutz> raven: w
[18:18] <DinoMuffin> raven: w or users
[18:19] <theadmin> imbezol: Heh lol
[18:19] <raven> tnx
[18:19] <theadmin> llutz: "w"? Is that a shortuct for "who" or an entirely different command?
[18:19] <imbezol> it's a dif command
[18:19] <llutz> theadmin: 2 commands
[18:20] <raven> android phone as soundcard via blutooth/wifi possible? did anyone try that yet?
[18:20] <llutz> theadmin: "whatis w who"
[18:20] <theadmin> llutz: I see, thanks... "whatis" is something I usually forget about xD
[18:21] <Chaorain> Hey, I just installed ubuntu Tweak for 11.10 and I used to be able to install programs through it but now I can't. Is there any way to still do that? (It had more than th Software Center does)
[18:21] <theadmin> Chaorain: Do you mean adding third-party repositories? I don't think Ubuntu Tweak can, but you can manually search launchpad for the ones you need
[18:21] <wutzebaer1> is facebook down?
[18:22] <Chaorain> theadmin: It used to be able. Thats always how I install Jdownloader.
[18:22] <theadmin> wutzebaer1: Offtopic here
[18:22] <iceroot> imbezol: you are right, find is failing on that
[18:22] <theadmin> wutzebaer1: And no, it ain't.
[18:22] <DinoMuffin> i wish it was
[18:22] <iceroot> imbezol: or i am failing to read the manpage :)
[18:22] <llutz> raven: does android support a2dp-snk at all?
[18:22] <raven> android phone as soundcard via blutooth/wifi possible? did anyone try that yet?
[18:23] <raven> llutz how to find out?
[18:23] <llutz> raven: ask google?
[18:24] <theadmin> iceroot: You *are* failing. Search for "-ls" in the manpage, followed by searching for "UNUSUAL FILENAMES" to see how it behaves with those.
[18:25] <theadmin> I apologize for caps, but that's how it's written in the man
[18:25] <iceroot> theadmin: we are searching for something also working on non-gnu-systems
[18:25] <theadmin> iceroot: You think that doesn't? I thought find is universal. But then again, I'm not so sure.
[18:25] <iceroot> theadmin: i just think i am bad and finding the right things in the manpage
[18:26] <iceroot> theadmin: i guess find can do it
[18:26] <theadmin> find looks completely anti-GNU-ish with it's more than one character parameters after a single dash, actually, iceroot
[18:26] <kirill> hello there
[18:26] <iceroot> theadmin: non-gnu is what we are searching
[18:27] <kirill> please help me i have dlna on win7 and laptop on lubuntu how i can wath video from dlna server on my lubuntu?
[18:27] <theadmin> iceroot: Well then, there's the answer. But then again, since when Ubuntu is related to anything non-gnu? :D
[18:27] <iceroot> theadmin: i think you want to show me in the !ot direction :)
[18:27] <theadmin> iceroot: That's what I just did xD
[18:28]  * theadmin doesn't call ubottu for !ot because ubottu can't explain how exactly is the person being offtopic
[18:28] <MonkeyDust> confusion!
[18:28] <MonkeyDust> :)
[18:28] <imbezol> enlightenment!
[18:28] <imbezol> :)
[18:28] <kirill> oh who knew where i can found help ifo about dlna on lubuntu?
[18:29] <iceroot> theadmin: sometimes its nice to discuss other things then "unity is bad" "my sound is not working" "how to install java" but yes you are right and i will be quit about the "\n"
[18:29] <theadmin> iceroot: Thanks, and yeah, I understand how this feels... I'm used to enforcing the channel policy because usually someone who's being offtopic will end up ruining the conversation flow... I was too strict right now, sorry, since there's no real conversation going on xD
[18:29] <iceroot> theadmin: np :)
[18:31] <balsack> hola?
[18:31] <bsm> halo
[18:31] <sammac> hi i cant add applets to the top panel. when i right click nothing happens. im 11.10 with gnome
[18:31] <balsack> alguien que hable castellano podria ayudarme ?
[18:31] <MonkeyDust> !es
[18:32] <theadmin> sammac: Gnome no longer has applets. If you are using Gnome Fallback, you have to Alt+Right Click, though
[18:32] <balsack> muchas gracias
[18:32] <sammac> thanks alt + right click works
[18:32] <saued> hi, what its the recommended iso to install in intel laptop? 32 or 64b?
[18:33] <iceroot> saued: depending on the exact cpu
[18:33] <llutz> saued: 64 if your cpu supports 64bit
[18:33] <theadmin> saued: Depends on the processor architecture, many newer Intel processors are 64-bit
[18:34] <saued> maybe 64 bits have more "troubles" with software?
[18:34] <iceroot> saued: no
[18:34] <llutz> saued: it had, years ago
[18:34] <sammac> how can u find out wether u have 64 bit or 32 bit
[18:34] <llutz> grep " lm" /proc/cpuinfo
[18:34] <iceroot> sammac: cat /proc/cpuinfo and look for "lm"
[18:35] <ericus> what would you do to optimize a netbook with 1GB RAM / 1.66GHz dual core and SSD?
[18:35] <Sutch> What would cause Ubuntu, after a fresh install from a CD, to blackscreen after booting?
[18:35] <theadmin> Earlier people used to complain that Linux neglects 64-bit, now they complain that it neglects ARM xD
[18:35] <ericus> I've already disabled some daemons
[18:36] <ericus> and installed openbox
[18:36] <llutz> ericus: buy some more ram
[18:36] <moo-> ddr3 is crazy cheap
[18:36] <ericus> llutz: I'm not even using 1GB
[18:36] <theadmin> llutz: Huh? 1G is like huge for Linux, what's the big deal...
[18:36] <MonkeyDust> ericus  install preload and add vm.swappiness=10 to /etc/sysctl
[18:36] <ericus> MonkeyDust: tell me more about that?
[18:36] <graft> hey, i need to install ff10 so i can use firebug again, is there a ppa or something where i can do that?
[18:37] <theadmin> graft: Yeah, ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable has the latest stable Firefox versions
[18:37] <MonkeyDust> !info| preload | ericus
[18:37] <MonkeyDust> !info preload | ericus
[18:37] <llutz> theadmin: sure, linux will be fine, but some people want to use some programs too
[18:37] <graft> theadmin: cool, thanks
[18:37] <saued> so if i want install debian what iso i should choose, ia64?
[18:38] <llutz> saued: amd64, not ia64(itanium)
[18:38] <ericus> okay ubottu
[18:38] <saued> aham
[18:38] <kirill> please help me with dlna how i can watch video from dlna server on ubuntu?
[18:38] <ericus> or MonkeyDust :D
[18:38] <sammac> cpu MHz		: 933.00
[18:38] <ericus> I've managed to get the power usage down from 9.4W to 5.3W
[18:39] <graft> wow! you should build cars
[18:39] <ericus> with the SSD disk and powertop, and with disabling some daemons and services
[18:39] <graft> which daemons?
[18:39] <sammac> when i run cat /proc/cpuinfo i get cpu MHz		: 933.000 surely thats a mistake my cpu is 3ghz
[18:39] <ericus> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4375930/scrot.png
[18:40] <llutz> sammac: speedstep, cpu shouldn't run always on max-Freq
[18:40] <DinoMuffin> sammac: your processor is likely throttling
[18:40] <ericus> 800 | 800 is CPU
[18:40] <MonkeyDust> sammac  run sudo dmidecode|grep 64
[18:40] <ericus> running on demand, up to 1.66GHz
[18:40] <A-West> nice desktop ericus
[18:40] <saued> llutz, amd64 its for intel too?
[18:40] <llutz> saued: yes
[18:41] <ejbs> Hey guys, I've changed some keybindings in xmodmap and the changes registers accordingly in xev but the changes aren't noticeable in "regular use" so to speak. Any idea of something that I might have missed?
[18:41] <ericus> thanks A-West
[18:41] <DinoMuffin> saued: if you install a monitoring program like xosview you can watch the frequency change in real time
[18:42] <sammac> UUID: 434E4631-3038-364C-5152-984BE1AD0EA1
[18:42] <sammac> 		64-bit capable
[18:42] <sammac> 	Total Width: 64 bits
[18:42] <sammac> 	Data Width: 64 bits
[18:42] <sammac> 	Part Number: 8JSF25664HZ-1G4D1
[18:42] <FloodBot1> sammac: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:42] <DinoMuffin> i meant that for sammac
[18:43] <A-West> what are you running for your desktop ericus?
[18:43] <graft> theadmin: err, there seems to be no oneiric support in that ppa
[18:43] <saued> Ok DinoMuffin thanks
[18:43] <theadmin> graft: Oh, really? That's odd... I didn't know, sorry, I'm no Ubuntu user
[18:43] <MonkeyDust> graft  and ppa's are not supported on this channel
[18:43] <graft> theadmin: what are you using?
[18:44] <graft> MonkeyDust: orly? hmm
[18:44] <theadmin> graft: pm, this is offtopic here
[18:45] <trism> theadmin: the firefox-stable ppa will no longer be updated, since the latest versions are being added to lucid-oneiric now
[18:45] <theadmin> trism: I see....... Hm, that's new.
[18:45] <theadmin> trism: Ubuntu keeping up-to-date? That's just funny xD Finally
[18:46] <DLabz> Hi, guys... having some issues with connecting remote box to my VPN serve on Win7... anyone willing to test the connecton to it for me?
[18:47] <DLabz> my box is behind a router, but vpn should work, as the server is listening for connection, and NAT has been set
[18:48] <trism> theadmin: yeah just announced a couple days ago: http://www.chriscoulson.me.uk/blog/?p=100
[18:49] <quick-> logout
[18:49] <DLabz> VPN vorks in LAN, but I can't loop back from outside to test, so I could really use a hand
[18:50] <dlentz> i've seen a few aggravated lucid users that wanted their firefox 3 back
[18:52] <sammac> model name	: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU       M 370  @ 2.40GHz stepping	: 5 cpu MHz		: 933.000
[18:52] <user__> hello, can somebody tell me how can I install an application on a blackberry phone, using ubuntu? I found Berry, the help says that it's possible to load a .cod file, but anybody here tried this (the phone is not here right now, so I can't test it?
[18:52] <sammac> im confused. is it 2.4 ghz or 933 mhz
[18:52] <DinoMuffin> sammac: your cpu is throttling automatically
[18:52] <dlentz> it's idling at 933
[18:52] <Seryth> How can I check what ppas I have in my sources?
[18:53] <DinoMuffin> sammac: when it's under load, it raises the frequency up to 2.4ghz
[18:53] <xangua> Seryth: Software Center - Edit - Sources
[18:53] <llutz> sammac: i3-370m is max 2.4GHz, actually stepped at 933MHz
[18:53] <sammac> ok. nothing to worry about
[18:53] <Seryth> xangua: Thanks.
[18:53] <zykotick9> Seryth: try "apt-cache policy" from terminal as another option
[18:53] <Seryth> zykotick9: Thanks :)
[18:54] <sammac> is that to prevent overheating ?
[18:55] <DLabz> sammac: to save energy
[18:55] <DinoMuffin> sammac: power saving and reducing heat
[18:55] <sammac> ok
[18:55] <dlentz> sammac, all is well ;)
[18:55] <DinoMuffin> sammac: if you install something like xosview, you can watch the CPU frequency change in real time
[18:57] <llutz> "watch -n1 grep  MHz /proc/cpuinfo"
[18:57] <Sutch> What could cause a constant black screen after booting Ubuntu for the first/second/third/fourth time after a fresh install from disc?
[18:57] <DinoMuffin> or that
[18:57] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | Sutch
[18:57] <diego_> hi guys
[18:58] <Sutch> Thanks.
[18:59] <Seryth> How do I remove a ppa using terminal?
[18:59] <zykotick9> Seryth: check out ppa-purge
[19:00] <theadmin> Seryth: ppa-purge ppa:someone/something
[19:00] <Seryth> zykotick9, theadmin Thanks
[19:00] <Roge152> Is it just me, or are the ubuntu repos extremly slow today ?
[19:00] <microbe> Hi there, i would like to know, i have a usb hdd mounted in /media, but users cant list directory trough ssh ... it's a ntfs partition, and see this console loh when i try to chmod: http://pastebin.com/0gbxcQt9  any advice are welcome ^o^
[19:00] <theadmin> Roge152: Try changing your mirror to another country
[19:00] <Qzen> i am having problems installing the latest php5 on my ubuntu, anyone care to help me?
[19:00] <Roge152> Will try theadmin
[19:00] <onizukafan> hi everybody
[19:00] <theadmin> microbe: You can't use chown/chmod on NTFS drives.
[19:00] <Chaorain> what file contains the info on which drives are mounted on boot?
[19:01] <theadmin> Chaorain: /etc/fstab
[19:01] <Chaorain> theadmin: ty
[19:01] <DLabz> Please, anyone running ubuntu, that can spare couple of minutes to try to connect to my VPN server? Thanks
[19:01] <microbe> Ah :) Ok,  but how can i share my drive ?
[19:01] <fanzz> 你好朋友
[19:01] <theadmin> Chaorain: The format is: device-node mount-point filesystem-type mount-options dump-number pass-number
[19:01] <onizukafan> i've a little issue with the unlock screen : all accessibility tools are disabled, but the visual keyboard appears in it
[19:01] <fanzz> 呵呵
[19:02] <theadmin> fanzz: English here.
[19:02] <fanzz> 我不会
[19:02] <theadmin> *facepalm* Anyone know what language that is?
[19:02] <theadmin> !cn | fanzz
[19:02] <theadmin> That looks about right
[19:03] <A-West> chinese theadmin
[19:03] <theadmin> A-West: Ah I keep confusing chinese and japanese when there's not many symbols but they're all kanji xD
[19:03] <fanzz> 谁会说汉语？
[19:03] <DinoMuffin> do both then
[19:03] <DinoMuffin> !jp | fanzz
[19:03] <A-West> translate.google.com is your friend theadmin
[19:03] <theadmin> A-West: lol point
[19:04] <nils_> those hardware vendors that require MS DOS for flashing should be shot.
[19:04] <theadmin> nils_: Try freedos lol
[19:04] <onizukafan> chinese is cooler
[19:04] <fanzz> 神啊，都是那个国家的啊
[19:04] <nils_> theadmin: yeah working on that now. Problem is that the floppy images are too small
[19:04] <theadmin> mneptok: Thanks a bunch
[19:05] <microbe> How can i mount correctly a ntfs partition for sharing directories with other user trough ssh ?
[19:06] <microbe> i found some Samba related doc, but i'm still searching for "the simple way"
[19:07] <SeriousMatters> fanzz: 我會中文 (I understand Chinese)
[19:07] <SeriousMatters> oh he left.
[19:08] <rudolf_> hi
[19:08] <rudolf_> i have a question that has been puzzling me since a few days.
[19:08] <theadmin> SeriousMatters: (s)he didn't leave, (s)he was force-removed (kicked) from the channel by mneptok for behaviour that is not according to our policies.
[19:08] <goddard> what do you guys think of the megaupload thing?
[19:09] <mneptok> !ot > goddard
[19:09] <rudolf_> Can i make a dual boot pen drive or cd with any two os?
[19:09] <ejbs> goddard: That just SCREAMS off topic
[19:09] <microbe> please people dont forget me :) i need help and alone i'm going to shit bricks a long time ...
[19:10] <rudolf_> not only os..i mean using any two bootable images? like ophcrack and win nt registry editor linux image
[19:10] <mneptok> rudolf_: yes for a pen drive. i'm not so sure about a CD, as boot records are somewhat different.
[19:10] <rudolf_> mneptok, what should i study or learn for doin that?
[19:10] <goddard> wow wow siren police alarms!!
[19:11] <SeriousMatters> theadmin: I noticed.  He was just asking who knows Chinese... too bad.
[19:11] <rudolf_> For eg, i want to make a pen drive with windows 7 and ophcrack dual boot
[19:12] <raider_> Raider
[19:12] <orbarron> anyone know where I can get /linux/net_tstamp.h for 10.4? is there a package for this? or do I need to take it from kernel.org and simply drop it in?
[19:12] <mneptok> rudolf_: that's offtopic for #ubuntu
[19:12] <raider_> #list
[19:12] <rudolf_> mneptok, can you tell me in pm?
[19:13] <mneptok> rudolf_: no, because i do not use Windows or ophcrack
[19:13] <Fiki> hello everyone,could any of you help me with a sound problem i am having in ubuntu,i don't know how to make ubuntu use my headphones microphone and not my integrated one
[19:14] <raider_> #gentoo-wiki-pl
[19:14] <fean> does anyone else have the black screen problem when upgrading to 11.04?
[19:14] <ejbs> Fiki: Have you searched around in the sound settings?
[19:14] <Fiki> well yes and i haven't been able to get it to work,i have tried all of the combinations available,it's a bit complicated
[19:16] <ejbs> Fiki: Okay, you could always go into alsamixer and poke around in that. Just open up a terminal and launch it there.
[19:16] <zykotick9> Fiki: you could try "alsamixer" in a terminal, then F4 to get capture
[19:16] <Fiki> oh this is like a terminal thing,i am not really used to the whole shell system i prefer gui when available :P,but i'll give it a go
[19:18] <ejbs> Fiki: Well, it's KIND OF graphical :), not really that hard as you've got all the instructions up in the corner and stuff
[19:19] <Fiki> hmm i am trying out,but the output sources i have seem not to include or some of them are not working
[19:19] <Fiki> only my integrated mic works when i select that as an input source
[19:20] <Unode|Work> hi everyone
[19:20] <Fiki> btw which profile should i select i have a laptop
[19:20] <Fiki> should i go with analog stereo duplex?
[19:20] <Unode|Work> can anyone tell me how do you prevent ubuntu from fetching package lists on a regular basis?
[19:21] <Unode|Work> I want it to only fetch when I want to upgrade and not daily
[19:21] <ejbs> Fiki: I have no idea, my solution is pretty rude: Try EVERY combination!
[19:21] <xangua> Unode|Work: Software Center - Edit - Sources, edit your upgrade/update preferences
[19:21] <Fiki> hahahahaha
[19:22] <Sharky> Ello is there a way that i can get the software center  to work in 9.10
[19:22] <Unode|Work> xangua, and on a server without that?
[19:23] <xangua> Unode|Work: wouldn't know, sorry. There is #ubuntu-server
[19:23] <Unode|Work> xangua, thanks for the help
[19:24] <Wolf1996> Ello is there a way that i can get the software center  to work in 9.10
[19:24] <xangua> Wolf1996: please upgrade to a supported ubuntu version
[19:25] <balsack> neaz
[19:25] <crizzy> Wolf1996: upgrade to 10.04 and you'll get couple more years of support ^^
[19:25] <Wolf1996> xangua, why it should be supported  i still got the server
[19:25] <xangua> Wolf1996: is not
[19:25] <Fiki> I have some feeling that i am going to have to do something manually,like changing some lines and stuff,the bad part is if i mess up i might end up with no working mic lol
[19:26] <Wolf1996> ok
[19:26] <Wolf1996> then
[19:29] <Fiki> So has any1 had this problem to with mic not working from headphones?
[19:29] <bs> paltalk wont run how to make it run
[19:30] <GOMI> is it okey to not UPGRADE to 11.10 because am afraid it will go wrong ?!?
[19:30] <nils_> I did it a bunch of time, mostly without problems
[19:30] <ejbs> GOMI: Yes, yes that is quite reasonable.
[19:30] <DinoMuffin> GOMI: you should be keeping backups regardless
[19:31] <ejbs> Guys, guys: I've edited my keybindings with xmodmap, xev gives me the correct output but my keybindings are being overridden by something, help please :-(?
[19:31] <GOMI> but do i get  vulnerable if i don't upgrade , i do update it every time.
[19:32] <Fiki> vulnarable to what?
[19:32] <Fiki> If it's viruses you are worried about then it's not a big problem on linux really
[19:33] <ejbs> GOMI: Well, no, not really. There are like... No threats to your computer, upgrading Ubuntu from a distro to another is probably more dangerous as Ubuntu likes living "on the edge" compared to Debian
[19:33] <kion> hello, I am trying to run a cron job, but my system is not doing what i told it via /etc/crontab, i have a cron process running but I do not have a crond process ?? any help?
[19:34] <GOMI> okey thanks for your answers  :)
[19:34] <GarGarOzz> hi all
[19:34] <drweedbot_> hey can any one help me with driver patching?
[19:35] <drweedbot_> hello?
[19:35] <alteregod> whats the drive letters after /dev/sdz?
[19:35] <Fiki> gah i'm gonna murder some1 if I don't figure out how to make my headphone mic work
[19:35] <drweedbot_> ?
[19:35] <drweedbot_> me?
[19:36] <h00k> drweedbot_: go ahead and ask the actual question
[19:36] <drweedbot_> i need to patch my wifi drivers for aircrack-ng and need help
[19:36] <milen8204> hello I have a problem whit my Volari Video card I have install the driver from synapr\tic but it doesn`t work
[19:36] <alteregod> no support for hackers
[19:36] <nils_> alteregod: interesting question
[19:36] <milen8204> now I have no driver
[19:36] <h00k> !wifi | drweedbot_
[19:37] <h00k> !video | milen8204
[19:37] <GarGarOzz> i thought that if you want to do sniffing-stuff you need an external wifi card
[19:37] <drweedbot_> i allready read that still dont understand what i' supposed to do
[19:37] <drweedbot_> *im
[19:37] <milen8204> h00k thanks
[19:38] <h00k> milen8204: good luck :)
[19:38] <nils_> alteregod: according to devices.txt there isn't even anything after sdp.
[19:38] <milen8204> h00k is there nay univer driver for video cards ?
[19:39] <milen8204> nay=any
[19:39] <alteregod> lol
[19:39] <ubukou> hey folks
[19:39] <h00k> milen8204: I'm assuming you mean universal, not really. it depends on what card you have. I've never heard of the type of card you have.
[19:39] <zykotick9> milen8204: vesa
[19:40] <iText> help to know where to place my desktop entry file,? and what should be its extension?
[19:40] <milen8204> zykotick9, vesa ???
[19:40] <zykotick9> milen8204: closest thing to a universal xorg driver (you might not get the performance/resolution you want though)
[19:40] <milen8204> h00k, it is from Chaintech Volari V3
[19:41] <theadmin> zykotick9: vesa does only up to 1024x768 if I recall right.
[19:41] <milen8204> zykotick9, ok i am going to try it
[19:41] <h00k> milen8204: yeah, I've never heard of it.
[19:41] <milen8204> h00k, every day you learn somting new :D
[19:41] <ubukou> anyone had experience with that : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/606652     i d appreciate the help .. im on this all day
[19:43] <ubukou> im trying to upgrade and all i acomplished is breaking my graphics..
[19:44] <ubukou> anyone had experience with that : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/606652     i d appreciate the help .. im on this all day
[19:45] <theadmin> !patience | ubukou
[19:45] <fiki196> i just installed pulse audio manager and now it detects no sound card
[19:46] <fiki196> :'-(
[19:46] <asdf1234> where is this annoying beep coming from, mirc !?
[19:47] <rudolf_> !patience|rudolf_
[19:47] <theadmin> asdf1234: mirc is not for Linux, so we wouldn't know if it makes beeps.
[19:47] <theadmin> fiki196: Err, uninstall it and install plain alsa again if you have troubles with pulse, I don't see why you'd *need* pulseaudio. Unless you're using GNOME.
[19:47] <asdf1234> you guys probably dont have sound cards do you lol
[19:47] <rudolf_> !linux|rudolf_
[19:48] <fiki196> first question: how do install alsa
[19:48] <DinoMuffin> !details | asdf1234
[19:49] <theadmin> fiki196: sudo apt-get install alsa # Like any other app, basically.
[19:49] <fiki196> it says alsa-base is already the newest version
[19:50] <fiki196> i uninstalled pulse but i see no hardware or anything,i was picking around because my headphone mic won't work
[19:50] <jeagle> if I was to write a bash script that would do the follow "convert image.tif image.pdf" Is there a command I can wrap around it that will time it out if it continues to hang for hours? lol
[19:50] <fiki196> and it worked like an hour ago on windows just fine,so i'm guessing it's a setting problem/driver
[19:52] <bs> how can i run paltalk
[19:52] <nelly> ciao
[19:52] <nelly> !list
[19:52] <theadmin> jeagle: "convert image.tif image.pdf &sleep 5s && pkill convert" will kill it after 5 seconds, I *think*. Can't test atm.
[19:52] <warg> всем привет
[19:52] <theadmin> !ru | warg
[19:52] <jeagle> theadmin: Thanks! I'll test it! :)
[19:53] <theadmin> jeagle: And yes, that single & after convert is not a mistake.
[19:53] <Girffe> Does anyone know the command for linking two folders, so if I try to access the first folder it will redirect me to the second folder?
[19:53] <jeagle> theadmin: hehe :P
[19:53] <theadmin> Girffe: ln -s second_folder first_folder
[19:54] <ssta> I always have to check the order of arguments for ln
[19:54] <crond> got it sorted :)
[19:54] <theadmin> ssta: target linkname, heh
[19:54] <jeagle> theadmin: Now the convert command calls imagemagick, would I need to kill imagemagick instead?
[19:54] <theadmin> jeagle: Ah, prolly so, yes
[19:54] <jeagle> theadmin: kool thanks! you're the best! :)
[19:54] <ssta> theadmin: yeah, I know...I just have a mental blockage on it...I always check to make sure :)
[19:54] <fiki196> hmm it seems alsa doesn't support intel ICH9
[19:54] <fiki196> what are my options :P?
[19:55] <jasonlfunk> I set up my natty server to create a ad-hoc network when it starts up by adding it to my /etc/network/interfaces file. When I boot the device has the right static ip address but the wireless settings aren't right (as revealed by iwconfig). If I run "/etc/init.d/networking restart" it gets configured correctly. What could you reseting this settings on boot? How can I find out?
[19:56] <ssta> jasonlfunk: might be that the wifi adapter isn't fully configured when networking is started by init?  (umm, upstart these days I guess)
[19:56] <zykotick9> bs: are you sure there isn't a gnu/linux program that would work for you?  Paltalk's WineDB entry at http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=3824
[19:56] <jasonlfunk> ssta: is there a way to delay the network configuration?
[19:56] <ssta> jasonlfunk: quick and dirty hack, stick an @reboot line in /etc/crontab that calls a script that sleeps for 30 seconds, then restarts networking?
[19:56] <Test5000> hi guys, not sure if I am on the right channel here, but can someone of you estimate the costs per month/year for following?
[19:57] <Test5000> 1 very beefy database server (dual quad-core CPUs with 16Gb of memory and RAID10 on 8 SAS HDDs)
[19:57] <bs> zykotick9, what bnu/linux program would work as paltalk
[19:57] <Test5000> 2 web servers (dual quad-core CPUs with 12Gb of memory)
[19:57] <iceroot> Test5000: ##hardware
[19:57] <Test5000> ok thanks iceroot
[19:57] <iceroot> Test5000: or something like that
[19:57] <zykotick9> bs: i'm not sure, i have no idea what paltalk really is, other then an IM client.
[19:58] <ssta> jasonlfunk: you might be able to do something with a /etc/network/if-pre-up.d script, but that would take a bit more analysis
[19:58] <seanjean718> hi all, I'm having some problems getting gdm launched at login
[19:58] <zykotick9> bs: pidgin and empathy are popular GUI IM clients, both can access multiple networks
[19:58] <seanjean718> in particular, I'm getting a gray screen after typiing in login information on my machine.  anyone know where to start to debug this problem??
[19:58] <bs> zykotick9, they dont work for paltalk
[19:58] <jasonlfunk> ssta: okay, thanks
[19:59] <fiki196> guys if alsa doesn't support my soundcard do i have any options at all!?
[19:59] <ericus> what exactly does "Smart fan control" do on a netbook?
[19:59] <sliddy> is there a really tiny ubuntu server version?
[20:00] <theadmin> fiki196: OSS
[20:00] <theadmin> !minimal | sliddy
[20:00] <sliddy> i got a tiny pc with a FD of 512Mb
[20:00] <sliddy> ah cool
[20:00] <sliddy> thanks
[20:01] <ssta> sliddy: ubuntu by its nature isn't as small as some distros.  The server install isn't huge though (about 1G of diskspace is enough)
[20:01] <36DAARLF3> how do i get over this google-chrome/unity bug?: http://imgur.com/vu5am
[20:02] <Assada> please test nslookup -q=NS assada.com.ua 109.86.71.202
[20:03] <mibr001> cpu 46 gpu 62 hdd 34 degrees celsius... ubuntu 10.10 acer aspire 5520 is this guna melt soon and can i cool it down some easily
[20:05] <mibr001> hellos
[20:05] <HavokDelta6> Is it posible to have Ubuntu (this is probably more of a kernel thing) not commit changes to disk for a while, and store everything, how can you configure the drive to read-ahead, can you make it cache certain files at startup?
[20:06] <36DAARLF3> HavokDelta6, man blockdev
[20:06] <ssta> mibr001: doesn't look high to me.  Is there a userguide that mentions safe temperatures?
[20:06] <HavokDelta6> cheers
[20:06] <mibr001> no... my it ssaid they should all run under 45
[20:07] <HavokDelta6> 36DAARLF3, not relevant
[20:07] <DinoMuffin> mibr001: the chips in your computer are probably rated to about 90c
[20:08] <36DAARLF3> HavokDelta6, blockdev sets readahead
[20:08] <mibr001> cool... gpu has reached 70 but thats about it going that high
[20:08] <fean> It is only 90 degrees F, I don't think it is that hot.
[20:08] <IrishGringo4> i am not an admin, but I just setup a new VM on a 10.10 network... I can ftp in, but I can not save files.  are there any ubuntu  10.4 admiuns here?
[20:08] <mibr001> thats celsius...
[20:08] <fiki196> god damn you windows i have to go back to you since my sound doesn't work
[20:08] <36DAARLF3> HavokDelta6, blockdev --setra <bytes> <device>
[20:09] <mibr001> cpu 115 gpu 144 hdd 100 f
[20:09] <DinoMuffin> !patience | fiki196
[20:09] <DinoMuffin> mibr001: it's a little toasty, but nothing the chips can't handle
[20:09] <fiki196> i don't remember having these problems on mint
[20:09] <fiki196> but then again i didn't have headphones then
[20:09] <mibr001> kk thanks ttyl :)
[20:10] <DinoMuffin> mibr001: my 5870 commonly runs at around 40-60c
[20:10] <DinoMuffin> it's been kicking for about 3 years now
[20:10] <mibr001> cool alrighty ttyl thanks
[20:14] <milen8204> If I have drivers for my Video card for Windows, can I install them on linux ?
[20:14] <milen8204> Becourse there is no drivers for linux
[20:14] <zykotick9> milen8204: no
[20:14] <IrishGringo4> i am not an admin, but I just setup a new VM on a 10.10 network... I can ftp in, but I can not save files.  are there any ubuntu  10.4 admiuns here?
[20:14] <milen8204> zykotick9,vesa  doesn't work for me
[20:15] <fiki196> my sound card is going to blow up
[20:15] <fiki196> seriously
[20:15] <scwizard> When I apt-get upgrade, it says the linux kernel packages have been kept back. How do I upgrade my kernel?
[20:16] <iceroot> scwizard: dist-upgrade instead of upgrade
[20:16] <Pici> scwizard: use apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:16] <scwizard> ahh ok
[20:18] <36DAARLF3> "gay staffer" ?
[20:18] <enigma> hello gays  any one have  answer for this >?     port 22: Connection refused
[20:18] <aeon-ltd> enigma: yes
[20:18] <ubukou> what does it mean when apt tells you that packages had been held back ? i am doing an upgrade and it downloads 632 packages and half of them are held back ..
[20:18] <36DAARLF3> enigma, port is obviously not open??
[20:18] <aeon-ltd> typo?
[20:18] <Pici> 36DAARLF3: excuse me?
[20:19] <36DAARLF3> Pici, excuse me what?
[20:19] <enigma> i'm jus open ssh enigma@ubuntu     like this
[20:19] <Pici> 36DAARLF3:  <?36DAARLF3> "gay staffer" ?
[20:19] <aeon-ltd> what happened to this channel man...?
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> enigma  have you installed openssh-server on the remote pc and openssh-client on the local pc?
[20:19] <36DAARLF3> pici, in response to mrmist's global notice
[20:19] <enigma> have a look
[20:20] <enigma> no is not
[20:20] <MonkeyDust> enigma  that's the reason
[20:21] <ubukou> enigma the client is not there or password wrong (?) if you are trying to access it localy it should work.. if not you should port forwatd the port... not sure but i have seen that msg when setting up my ssh
[20:21] <enigma> is simple thanks
[20:21] <enigma> sometimes simple is hard
[20:21] <enigma> :)
[20:22] <ubukou> enigma it should be user@192.168.1.xx:22 or something depending on the software you use ...
[20:23] <ubukou> hey guys .. is it normal to have 635 packages update after distribution upgrade?
[20:23] <ubukou> many of the 635 packages are held back what is that about?
[20:23] <enigma> what about that   ?        elnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[20:24] <fade2blk> hey guys i need to know 2 examples of when its better to use a single thread then using multithreads in a program
[20:24] <dlentz> fade2blk, homework?
[20:24] <ubukou> ssh user@192.168.1.xx gives you that ?
[20:24] <ubukou> enigma i mean
[20:24] <fade2blk> reading a os just wanted to know
[20:24] <enigma> uboku no is nothing if i try to do that
[20:25] <dlentz> unh-huh...
[20:25] <Pici> fade2blk: ##programming would probably be a more appropriate place for that question.
[20:25] <ubukou> google ssh ubuntu and try the ubuntu documantation.. it was really simple when i did it so i assume you re going the wrong way enigma
[20:26] <enigma> ok  i think so too ..
[20:26] <ubukou> enigma, it is really simple so anything more than 10 commands on both pcs isnt the way to go
[20:28] <Guest5603> Greetings, one question regarding file paths.  I have a program I need to manually install, what directory do I install it too?
[20:28] <enigma> ye but you know i'm just junior for this so all of times i see problems .. and problems must be done ..so is like step by step  for progress
[20:28] <rigved> Guest5603: /opt/
[20:28] <enigma> :)
[20:29] <Guest5603> Thanks a bunch.
[20:30] <Boreeas> I am using this script to convert mp4 to mp3 files, but it fails at filenames with whitespace:
[20:30] <Boreeas> for f in *.mp3; do ffmpeg -i $f -acodec libmp3lame -ab 128k $(echo $f | sed 's/\.mp4$/\.mp3/'); done
[20:31] <Boreeas> How would I change it to include filenames with white space, too?
[20:31] <ubukou> enigma, i am a junior too.. it never stops...no worries
[20:32] <arimail> Hi! I've just installed Ubuntu on my USB stick with usb installer. How can I make sure its persistent when I need to reboot now?
[20:32] <Gianluca> ciao
[20:32] <Gianluca> !list
[20:32] <enigma> hope so  ...
[20:32] <enigma> :)#
[20:32] <Walex4> Boreeas: that script contains all the usual obvious mistakes based on a misunderstanding of how the shell works, by people who are used to the "usual" programming languages...
[20:33] <arimail> I have reserved a gig on the usb stick "for saving changes"
[20:33] <Boreeas> Walex4: To be honest, I didn't even write it myself <.<. I still can't wrap my head around bash scripts
[20:33] <Walex4> Boreeas: "proper" shell style is all about pipes, not "for" loops.
[20:34] <arimail> Hi! I've just installed Ubuntu on my USB stick with usb installer. How can I make sure its persistent when I need to reboot now?
[20:34] <arimail> I have reserved a gig on the usb stick "for saving changes"
[20:34] <aeon-ltd> !persistent
[20:34] <enigma> thanks dude for incentive
[20:35] <Walex4> something like: find ... -name 'mp3' -print | sed 's/..../..../' | sh
[20:35] <metbsd> is there league of legends on linux?
[20:35] <madasi> Question: Using a stock of install of 11.10, connecting to WPA2 PEAP/MSCHAPv2. Is there any way to be able to change the username when it prompts for wireless network authentication?
[20:35] <aeon-ltd> metbsd: maybe through wine and steam
[20:35] <metbsd> what?
[20:35] <aeon-ltd> metbsd: but i wouldn't  get your hopes up
[20:36] <Assada> PLEASE! TEST! nslookup -q=NS assada.com.ua 109.86.71.202
[20:36] <Assada> nslookup -q=NS assada.com.ua 109.86.71.202
[20:36] <Walex4> or something like "find .... -name 'mp3' -print | while read MP3; do MP4="${MP3/mp3$/mp4}"; .... "$MP3" "MP4"; done
[20:36] <madasi> other than editing the connection details in network-manager each time?
[20:37] <arimail> How can I tell if my ubuntu 11.10 is persistent?
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> !info nslookup
[20:37] <ekaleido> nslookup is ass anyways
[20:37] <ekaleido> use dig
[20:37] <aeon-ltd> metbsd: did some research, it's rated 'silver' in appdb for wine, wine allows linux to run windows executables.
[20:38] <metbsd> silver means what
[20:39] <omararmy> hi
[20:39] <aeon-ltd> metbsd: its just a rating on how well it runs
[20:39] <john_doe_jr> I downloaded the php manual from php.net and would like to read it on my kindle...the single html file opens up in a web browser alright (after some time) but I can't copy all the text on the web page and would like to....do you know how I could do this in Ubuntu?
[20:40] <grubbyone> I'm booting from a usb stick, and trying to run an ubuntu server iso, the desktop versions work, but not the server editions, http://pastebin.com/y64KGj8e
[20:40] <Battlecat> Hi there. I have ubuntu installed on my main machine. I use a USB mouse and keyboard because there are no regular ports on this desktop. It seems that once in awhile my mouse just stops responding and I have to reboot the machine to get the mouse back. Any ideas why?
[20:40] <aeon-ltd> metbsd: if you have windows just dual boot, even if it runs you'll have to compensate for loss of performance
[20:41] <omararmy> ping 64.40.7.113
[20:41] <metbsd> you play it too?
[20:41] <aeon-ltd> metbsd: no
[20:41] <john_doe_jr> anybody got a suggestion?
[20:42] <aeon-ltd> john_doe_jr: what files can the kindle read?
[20:42] <john_doe_jr> aeon-ltd, well if I turn it to just text it will allow a reader to use the readability feature of kindle...
[20:43] <Arcas> hello, I have a 1.5TB drive that is showing it is full after 762.5GB any idea why this would happen?
[20:44] <Arcas> its ext4
[20:44] <vvv> Where do I complain about a package in core which depends on the package which was removed?
[20:45] <aeon-ltd> john_doe_jr: what file type is it now?
[20:45] <john_doe_jr> aeon-ltd, it's html right now....
[20:45] <guntbert> vvv: file a bug report
[20:46] <guntbert> !bug | vvv
[20:46] <arimail> Please, how do I know if Ubuntu will save it's changes when I reboot?
[20:46] <arimail> Thank you in advance
[20:47] <xangua> arimail: why wouldn't ?
[20:47] <vvv> guntbert: thanks
[20:47] <kou_> anyone has an idea why i have WAY too many packages held back after "do-release-upgrade?"
[20:47] <grubbyone> john_doe_jr: sudo apt-get install html2text
[20:47] <arimail> It's a live cd "i think"
[20:47] <arimail> My first day on linux
[20:47] <cuco> hi all, i am trying to install the android sdk on ubuntu 11.10 which contains elcipse Indigo (3.7), and I am getting errors. Can anyone help me?
[20:48] <MonkeyDust> kou_  try sudo apt-get -f install
[20:48] <grubbyone> sudo html2text ./php-bixxhtml.html > phptext.txt
[20:48] <fructose> When log in via SSH, I'm told about the updates and new releases available. How do I disable that? It seems to slow down the login process.
[20:48] <xangua> arimail: then no
[20:48] <guntbert> arimail: the changes you make while running from a live CD will not be stored
[20:48] <arimail> even if I reserved 1GB on usb stick for permanent save
[20:48] <sidney_1> does ubuntu do multisession?..
[20:49] <arimail> how can I check if it's a live cd? I "installed it" on my USB stick with USB boot creator
[20:49] <aeon-ltd> john_doe_jr: tried this? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/html2text.1.html
[20:49] <guntbert> arimail: if it is a live stick with persistence - then yes
[20:49] <fructose> sidney_1: Multisession what?
[20:49] <kou_> MonkeyDust, i ve read about it as well as "apt-get dist-upgrade" but i am concerned cause there must be 300 packages held back and right now it is installing 350 packages...
[20:49] <arimail> okay. And this happens automatically
[20:49] <sidney_1> disc
[20:49] <arimail> ??
[20:49] <sidney_1> rw that is
[20:50] <guntbert> arimail: yes
[20:50] <kou_> MonkeyDust, that obviously were not held back .. is that normal ?
[20:50] <arimail> Thank you very much.
[20:50] <xangua> !usb | arimail
[20:51] <kou_> MonkeyDust, there must be all kinds of things in there gnome* Ampache* python*
[20:53] <kou_> MonkeyDust, i think i got it.. i had a failed "do-release update open" in another terminal ...
[20:53] <kou_> MonkeyDust, this must have done some really nasty things to my box
[20:53] <kou_> MonkeyDust, should i dkpg reconfigure ?!
[20:53] <john_doe_jr> aeon-ltd, I tried html2text but I'm getting the error message of 'terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc'
[20:54] <john_doe_jr>   what():  std::bad_alloc
[20:54] <john_doe_jr> Aborted
[20:54] <john_doe_jr> '
[20:54] <dong> hello. i have lubuntu and now new ubuntu too. i want to remove that ubuntu so my linux goes from startup to lubuntu. now it doesnt do it even i choose it ---> logout ---> Lubuntu --> reboot ---> starts in ubuntu :/
[20:54] <dejan_spasic> hi
[20:55] <aeon-ltd> john_doe_jr: my last idea i'm afraid, but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTMLDOC go from html to pdf to text
[20:55] <dong> ubuntu is 12.04
[20:55] <dejan_spasic> got a question about grub2 and disabling splash image. u use the latest version of ubuntu i want to disable the splash screen permanently. how?
[20:56] <kou_> dejan_spasic, there is a conf file somewhere
[20:56] <Atlantic777> Hi! Is there latex beamer class with ubuntu colors & style? Or what's the right place to look for it or at least ask...
[20:56] <zykotick9> dejan_spasic: take "splash" out of /etc/default/grub
[20:56] <bob___> 12.04 is not out yet hm?
[20:56] <sidney_1> beta
[20:57] <sidney_1> ?
[20:57] <john_doe_jr> aeon-ltd, alright..I'll try that one
[20:57] <bob___> hm not sure, just saw someone mention 12.04
[20:57] <dong> bob first i downloaded lubuntu and then i wrote ubuntu-update -d
[20:57] <dong> i dont want that ubuntu :D
[20:57] <zykotick9> dejan_spasic: you need to run "sudo update-grub" after to apply change BTW
[20:58] <alteregod> high
[20:58] <alteregod> udisks-daemon takes 48% of system memory, is this usual?
[20:58] <dong> update-manager -d it was
[20:58] <dejan_spasic> zykotick9, so change the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet" and run update-grub
[20:58] <dejan_spasic> okay
[20:58] <dong> bob
[20:59] <dong> bob___,  it was update-manager -d
[20:59] <zykotick9> dong: FYI the -d tells update-manager to install the development (alpha/beta) version
[21:00] <dong> zykotick9, ok well i have newest lubuntu and i dont need ubuntu
[21:00] <alteregod> i got 8 jiggawatt memory
[21:00] <dejan_spasic> zykotick9, a see the options now on the page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[21:00] <dejan_spasic> thx
[21:01] <zykotick9> !purelxde | dong
[21:01] <Giuv4a> http://irc.anonops.bz/
[21:02] <alteregod> what the heck is udisks daemon?
[21:02] <_hc> hey all, I'm a long time Debian (since '98) and Ubuntu (since '06) user and I'm having a maddening issue with my Oneiric setup. Basically, every 30-300 minutes, something freaks out and I cannot move or select windows with my mouse, I can sometimes alt-tab between windows when this happens but not always. Sometimes it goes away, mostly I have to reboot to fix it.  This happens in GNOME Classic/gnome-wm, GNOME Classic/compiz, Unity 2D, and GNOME se
[21:03] <guntbert> Giuv4a: don't advertise here please
[21:03] <zykotick9> alteregod: "man udisks-daemon" give a little explanation, i'm not 100% on what it is though
[21:03] <Chousuke> alteregod: man 7 udisks too
[21:04] <Chousuke> it basically handles things like removable storage, as far as I can tell.
[21:04] <alteregod> why the hell it needs 1/2 of system memory?
[21:04] <dong> zykotick9, Virtual packages like 'gnome-games-common' can't be removed
[21:05] <zykotick9> dong: sorry, i have no idea.
[21:05] <dong> zykotick9,  how to just make lubuntu default session when it startup
[21:05] <zykotick9> dong: i've never used lightdm so i'm not sure, but there should be an option somewhere to determin default.  Good luck.
[21:06] <Chousuke> alteregod: it probably doesn't. :P
[21:06] <rigved> _hc: i think that there nothing common between all those sessions, other than X itself.
[21:06] <Chousuke> alteregod: you might've hit some sort of bug. or you're looking at virtual memory
[21:06] <_hc> rigved: compiz?
[21:06] <_hc> rigved: no, I guess not, since I used gnome-wm... that's why its driving me so crazy
[21:07] <_hc> its forcing me to use Mac OS X, whcih sucs
[21:07] <rigved> dong: just log into lubuntu (lxde) once. then, from next time onwards, it will default to lubuntu
[21:08] <agentgasmask> Hi all. I want to alow a non privileged user connect to wireless networks, but still be non-privileged in the sense that he has no sudo rights. I this posible?
[21:08] <rigved> _hc: you mean that you are using gdm and not lightdm?
[21:08] <_hc> rigved: I'm using lightdm
[21:08] <rigved> _hc: i thought that Unity 2D does not use compiz...
[21:08] <Chousuke> agentgasmask: you can add a wireless connection to networkmanager as the superuser, and all users should be able to use it
[21:09] <_hc> rigved: right, nevermind, in my original GNOME Classic session, I was using gnome-wm with no compiz
[21:09] <Chousuke> agentgasmask: in fact, I think the users can do that themselves, it just won't be systemwide.
[21:09] <agentgasmask> Chousuke: Hmm... I want them to be able to connect to new networks. The system is a laptop and will be going to new places.
[21:09] <Chousuke> agentgasmask: that should work
[21:09] <_hc> rigved: then I changed it to use compiz, and the bug is still there, but a little different: basically I can't alt-tab thru the windows after it freaks out with GNOME-Classic/compiz
[21:09] <Chousuke> agentgasmask: dunno if you need to add the user to a "wifi" group or something though
[21:10] <Chousuke> agentgasmask: I'm currently not on ubuntu so I can't give much specific advice but it certainly is doable without sudo
[21:10] <rigved> _hc: when you say freak out, you mean that mouse is disabled, right?
[21:10] <_hc> nope mouse works fine
[21:10] <_hc> its just clicking on things mostly doesn't work
[21:11] <dong> rigved,  nope, it doesnt work like that :(  i have test it
[21:11] <enigma> also problem with touch pad ubuntu 10.04
[21:11] <_hc> rigved: everything continues to run and work fine, I just can't use the mouse to move windows, select windows, or click things in windows that do not have focus
[21:12] <rigved> _hc: ok.
[21:12] <_hc> often, if a window has focus after the freakout, I can still close it with the mouse
[21:12] <agentgasmask> Chousuke: there doesn't apear to be a "network" group, or any group like that. When I try to conncect to a network as the non-super-user, I get a message: System policy prevents modification of network settings for all users... etc
[21:13] <rigved> _hc: and is this machine a laptop?
[21:13] <rigved> _hc: ok.
[21:13] <_hc> yes, Macbook Pro 3rd gen
[21:13] <agentgasmask> Can I make this the only sudo command he can run?
[21:13] <_hc> I was running maverick on it very nicely, then upgraded to natty then oneiric in a day
[21:13] <_hc> then this started happening
[21:14] <vto> hello, i have access to the files in /etc/ssh at a remote server (in a pendrive), i also know log/pass for users on that machine. Can i stablish a ssh connection to that remote machine with the stuff inside /etc/ssh?
[21:14] <Socket-> Can anyone help me figure out why: man iptables says "See 'man 7 undocumented' for help when manual pages are not available." but if I do it as sudo it displays the man pages.  I did a chmod -R 755 /usr/share/doc
[21:15] <rigved> _hc: this looks like a bug. maybe it has got something to do with the upgrade. maverick to oneiric is a gnome 2 to gnome 3 upgrade.
[21:15] <_hc> vto: no, the keys in /etc/ssh/ are for the ssh-to-ssh communications
[21:15] <_hc> rigved: yeah, seems likely.  I didn't have natty on long enough to know if this happened there
[21:15] <theadmin> Socket-: /usr/share/doc doesn't have anything to do with manpages, you best check your /usr/share/man's permission
[21:16] <vto> _hc:  isnt a connection from my machine to the server a ssh-to-ssh connection?
[21:16] <Socket-> thanks
[21:16] <rigved> _hc: i think you should file a bug report against lightdm, cause that seems common to all.
[21:16] <ow> is it true that if I run "rm -rf /" ubuntu will stop it?
[21:17] <root> toor
[21:17] <Socket-> thanks, that fixed it
[21:17] <_hc> vto: yes, but there are two keys involved: the sshd's keys in /etc/ssh and your own keys.  Your own keys are for authentication, i.e logging in.  The sshd's keys are for making sure the sshd is the one you really want to talk to
[21:17] <ow> someone told me it would but im not sure
[21:17]  * ow tries
[21:17] <iceroot> ow: bash will stop it
[21:17] <_hc> rigved: Ok, will do
[21:17] <_hc> rigved: any troubleshotting ideas?
[21:17] <vto> _hc: i see, ty
[21:18] <iceroot> ow: but i a not sure what zsh, csh, ksh and so on will do
[21:18] <ow> :O
[21:18] <rigved> _hc: i can only think of looking through the logs to find any culprit application
[21:18] <ow> okay, thanks :D
[21:18] <guntbert> ow: don't try it - except on a virtual machine with a recent snapshot - not every shell has a "sentry" there
[21:18] <totle> i've tried to add a new mime type in ubuntu but haven't been quite successful so far. is there any good tutorial on this out there that i might be missing?
[21:18] <ow> okay :C
[21:18] <_hc> rigved: I've tried running without certain applications, at this point it would have to be gnome-terminal or firefox, since those are the only two that I really always run
[21:19] <rigved> _hc: do you have a second computer around?
[21:19] <_hc> yes
[21:19] <_hc> a netbook running oneiric
[21:19] <Guest51219> hi i really do not know what is happening here!!
[21:20] <_hc> Guest51219: lots of quetions and answers :)
[21:20] <Guest51219> aah ok
[21:20] <guntbert> Guest51219: welcome to the ubuntu support channel
[21:20] <Guest51219> thx guesse 51219
[21:20] <Guest51219> lol
[21:21] <rigved> _hc: you could connect to this Mac laptop from the netbook using ssh. then tail logs, keep top etc. open in the netbook. then, when the crash occurs, maybe you could catch the culprit...just a thought.
[21:21] <_hc> ah, ok, well, I almost always can still navigate using the keyboard, so I'll just do that
[21:21] <digitteqnohippie> just wanted to pop in here to say, last time i was here, i behaved inapropriately, and in jest, i suggested ubuntu had a safeguard against "rm -rf /" and for that i am sorry.  it was an uncharacteristic moment of dangerous mischief.  again, sorry.  my thnx to those who shut that down so fast.  that is all.
[21:22] <_hc> rigved: thanks for your help
[21:22] <vto> I have access to the vnc server at a remote machine, i also have 'only vision' disabled, but still, while i can connect to the remote desktop the remote machine does not intercept the mouse/keyboard events, any tip about this?
[21:22] <rigved> _hc: yes. maybe use a separate tty so that you do not need to go through window switching when it happens
[21:22] <_hc> hmm, good idea
[21:22] <rigved> _hc: you are welcome. sorry wasn't able to help much.
[21:23] <vto> the thing is that if a  perform an action (like clicking an icon) and i logout login ill see the app launched
[21:23] <vto> its very strange
[21:24] <jeagle> Quick question... Does anyone know of a way from the command line to clear out pdf bookmarks? I've been searching for days with no results...
[21:25] <jeagle> basically I have a script that will re-write the bookmarks but some pdf files have existing bookmarks and I am not a fan of that... PDFTK works, however, sometimes it just hangs and it isn't really a great solution...
[21:28] <_hc> jeagle: I'm guessing that info is probably stored in a file in ~/.config or ~/.local
[21:30] <jeagle> _hc: I doubt it, or I'm not sure what you mean, bookmarks are stored within the pdf file itself. :)
[21:32] <pgampe2> hi all
[21:32] <bucclord> hey
[21:32] <pgampe2> I have a problem with twinview + unity
[21:32] <pgampe2> http://www.imghack.se/48249
[21:32] <mongy> using ssh socks5 proxy I cannot view any video on thecwtv site, even though it no longer gives me wrong country errors, just gives me blank window.  Using hotspot shield in windows works fine.  Any idea?
[21:33] <pgampe2> used to work with gnome2 ... but this useless unity bar just sucks
[21:34] <pgampe2> basically I only need one bar and not two, because both screens share the same desktop
[21:36] <pgampe2> anyone?
[21:37] <john_doe_jr> is there a pdf2text program ?
[21:37] <bob___> john_doe_jr: hmm not sure, i know there is a pdf2ps tool though, pdf to postscript
[21:38] <john_doe_jr> what is postscript?
[21:38] <pgampe2> there is pdftotxt
[21:38] <bob___> there is ps2ascii, also looks like a pdf2ascii
[21:38] <mongy> john_doe_jr, poppler-utils
[21:38] <36DAARLF3> how do i get over this google-chrome/unity bug?: http://imgur.com/vu5am
[21:38] <pgampe2> sorry, pdftotext
[21:38] <rremer> Running ubuntu-server, I don't have the /desktop directory key in my gconf schema. What package do I have to install to get that? (specifically, I'm looking to be able to edit menu shortcuts: /desktop/gnome/interface:can_change_accels)
[21:38] <mongy> john_doe_jr, one of them included is 'pdftotext -- text extraction'
[21:40] <pgampe2> anyone? http://www.imghack.se/48249 why are there two bars?
[21:40] <john_doe_jr> mongy, where is poppler-utils?  it says I already have it installed?
[21:41] <mongy> john_doe_jr, pdgtotxt then
[21:41] <mongy> john_doe_jr, I mean, pdftotext
[21:41] <DJones> john_doe_jr: You could look at "calibre" its more of an ebook creator, but I think it does have a method of converting pdf's to text
[21:42] <mongy> john_doe_jr, if you have poppler installed you should be able to run pdftotext from shell.
[21:42] <betimig> Guys I have installed Windows 7 and Ubuntu in same HDD but windows is in another partition and ubuntu in another but windows is loading by default and its not showing Ubuntu to boot
[21:42] <betimig> how i can make the default boot lood grub of linux
[21:42] <betimig> then to choose which OS i want
[21:42] <betimig> to load
[21:43] <DJones> betimig: Did you install windows after installing Ubuntu?
[21:43] <betimig> no windows was installed before ubuntu
[21:43] <betimig> I can boot in ubuntu only if i insert a cd of Iatkos then from here i see that ubuntu is installed
[21:44] <john_doe_jr> mongy, DJones why doesn't poppler utils have a gui?
[21:44] <betimig> by  default ubuntu grub its not showing to choose which windows I want to run
[21:44] <Systemic3_3> How do i connect to a VPN connection with terminal that i've already set up with GUI? i use the default vpn that comes with ubuntu
[21:44] <jeagle> can one restart the ubuntu gui? isn't something like restart x? it's been a while...
[21:45] <Systemic3_3> i cant use GUI, because it gets stuck at battery state
[21:45] <Systemic3_3> although its a desktop
[21:45] <twright> jeagle, sudo service lightdm restart
[21:46] <betimig> any help ?
[21:46] <jeagle> twright: thank you. :)
[21:46] <twright> jeagle: you are welcome
[21:47] <betimig> Djones can you helo me ?=
[21:48] <Systemic3_3> Anyone knows how to connect to a VPN from terminal?
[21:49] <bs> have trouble withmy sound..it was working fine then start to cutting off in bad way
[21:49] <twright> ubottu: vinagre --help
[21:49] <betimig> Guys I have installed Windows 7 and Ubuntu in same HDD but windows is in another partition and ubuntu in another but windows is loading by default and its not showing Ubuntu to boot
[21:49] <osmosis> there was an article on hacker news a few days ago about setting up a ubuntu mail server, but new.ycombinator doesnt offer me anyway to search for a recent article. Any ways to find this?
[21:50] <xcyclist> Wow, that's pretty offensive.  What's with this?
[21:51] <pAt__> Betimig, guess you didnt install grub in the master boot record
[21:51] <osmosis> here it is
[21:51] <Pici> osmosis: http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/index.html
[21:51] <osmosis> http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/index.html
[21:51] <twright> ubottu help
[21:51] <bs> the sound start to cutting off in bad way in every program
[21:51] <xcyclist> Okay, so I'm not getting my sound come through the USB headphones from my docking station on my new 64bit 11.10 install.
[21:52] <Diyar> How can upgrade ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04 alpha ?
[21:52] <betimig> Yes i didnt install grub in boot record
[21:52] <betimig> now what i should do
[21:52] <GOMI> what is the best software to use for watching tv with a tvcard ?
[21:53] <pAt__> Betimig: install grub again but in the mbr
[21:53] <GOMI> i dont like tvtime , not user friendly
[21:53] <betimig> how to do that do i need to re-install all ubuntu
[21:53] <theTroy> hi guys, could someone explain to me how to view _binary_ data on a hard drive? i.e. just simply hex/binary read of the drive
[21:53] <DJones> !grub | betimig Sorry, was away from the computer, this link should help you get grub installed
[21:53] <betimig> or what
[21:56] <Aegir>  Aegir is vertrokken (Quit)
[21:58] <bs> the sound start to cutting off in bad way in every program
[22:01] <Fiki> guys i am in a pit i don't know how to make my headphone microphone work,i am about to pull my hairs out
[22:01] <Fiki> :P
[22:02] <tdgunes> theTroy: using a programming language can help
[22:03] <Fiki> first of all i would like to say that not even the right profil choiced appear
[22:04] <Fiki> there should be way more choices available,and i'm pretty sure it's not well supported,so any suggestions?
[22:05] <cptmorgan> i have a 8.04.2 system and bash profile is not working for new users. ive tried copying over roots working .bashrc and from another system with correct permissions but still no bash completion/profile
[22:06] <Diyar> Any one can tell me how can upgrade ubuntu version 11.10 to 12.04 ?
[22:06] <Diyar> Ubuntu 12.04 alpha*
[22:07] <cptmorgan> Diyar: do a fresh install... why would you do that?
[22:07] <Diyar> cptmorgan: is faster
[22:08] <Diyar> :-| that I saw in interview for it at YouTube and google + pages of Ubuntu shared :-|
[22:08] <Diyar> Can't be without download .. dirct updgrade
[22:08] <cptmorgan> Diyar: you wont notice it even if it is... and do install a alpha release on top of a good install is not smart
[22:09] <Diyar> cptmorgan: mean?
[22:09] <DinoMuffin> Diyar: 12.04 is not a stable release yet
[22:10] <Diyar> DinoMuffin: but it's faster? also when be stable I think will be update to stable? right
[22:10] <DinoMuffin> Diyar: 11.10 is the latest stable release
[22:11] <DinoMuffin> Diyar: 12.04 will be released in april
[22:11] <Diyar> But not fast it's suck Vista :-|
[22:11] <DJones> Diyar: You're probably better asking in #ubuntu+1 about installing 12.04, thats the support channel for it while its in development
[22:11] <Diyar> like vista*
[22:11] <Diyar> ok ok  thanks
[22:13] <Fiki> guys
[22:14] <Fiki> how do you fix an unsupported sound card in linux...
[22:16] <fiki196> any ideas what to do when your Sound card isn't supported,at least not fully?
[22:17] <mukaibot> fiki196: what sound card do you have?
[22:17] <mukaibot> fiki196: how do you know it's not supported?
[22:17] <DinoMuffin> fiki196: have you looked to see if there are any linux drivers for that card at all?
[22:17] <mukaibot> fiki196: it may simply require some additional configuration
[22:17] <fiki196> http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-Intel
[22:17] <fiki196> that's where i looked
[22:18] <fiki196> mine is ICH9
[22:18] <mukaibot> I think you just need snd_hda
[22:18] <fiki196> please elaborate
[22:18] <themaster_> What runlevel number do I run a upstart service on for a regular user?
[22:19] <mukaibot> fiki196: can you paste the contents of "lsmod | grep snd"
[22:19] <fiki196> the real problem is my sound works,but it doesn't support any surround sound and i can't use my headset mic
[22:19] <Aleksa> Hi all!
[22:19] <Aleksa> Help please!
[22:20] <Atlantic777> Aleksa: what's the problem? Just ask...
[22:20] <fiki196> mukaibot here you go http://pastebin.com/mVyutHSy
[22:20] <mukaibot> fiki196: ok, so it *is* working
[22:20] <Aleksa> Who know how make fast turbo xorg.conf for big fps in games?
[22:21] <mukaibot> fiki196: how have you determined surround sound isn't working?
[22:21] <mukaibot> which media player are you using?
[22:21] <themaster_> What runlevel number do I run a upstart service on for a regular user?
[22:21] <Aleksa> Who know how make fast turbo xorg.conf for big fps in games? please
[22:21] <fiki196> well my number one clue was that there is no option for 5.1 or 4.1 etc in the sound settings
[22:21] <mukaibot> which sound settings?
[22:22] <xcyclist> Apologies for getting cut off.  I am still dealing with Ubuntu 11.10 64 bit problem not seeing my docking station usb headset.
[22:22] <fiki196> well umm i tried alsa in the terminal and i tried the regular sound settings on the right top
[22:22] <fiki196> i have also experimented with some software with not much luck,so i reinstalled everything
[22:22] <fiki196> to take it from the top :P
[22:23] <Aleksa> Who know how make fast turbo xorg.conf for big fps in games? NVIDIA! Help please!
[22:24] <fiki196> I'm close to giving up and just installing windows :P
[22:24] <[deXter]> Aleksa, just choose gnome's fallback mode, or even better, install LXDE :P
[22:24] <fiki196> I know it's a detail  but it's a big problem for me
[22:24] <mukaibot> Aleksa: xorg.conf has zero impact on your frame rate
[22:24] <themaster_> whats your issue fiki196?
[22:24] <mukaibot> fiki196: sure, install Windows if Ubuntu won't work
[22:24] <Aleksa> deXter, no is not haelp
[22:24] <Aleksa> help
[22:24] <mukaibot> fiki196: I find that you need to set up VLC with the 5.1 settings though
[22:25] <[deXter]> Aleksa, Trust me, it helps (I'm a gamer)
[22:25] <fiki196> well my issue is i can't make my sound card work,that is my headset mic or any surround sound capabilities
[22:25] <[deXter]> Aleksa, At login, choose Gnome fallback (Failsafe) instead of Unity or the regular gnome. That alone will make a big difference
[22:25] <Aleksa> mukaibot hahaha
[22:25] <mukaibot> fiki196: lets concentrate on the surround sound issue first
[22:25] <[deXter]> Aleksa, but I've expereinced the fastest framerates in LXDE
[22:25] <fiki196> yeah but my bigger concern is the headset mic
[22:26] <fiki196> because i use skype on a regular basis
[22:26] <mukaibot> right
[22:26] <mukaibot> ok, so we'll try to get your headset working first
[22:26] <fiki196> ok
[22:26] <mukaibot> is it just the actual microphone that doesn't work?
[22:26] <mukaibot> or the headset's headphones too
[22:26] <fiki196> no,it works on windows
[22:26] <fiki196> on this same pc
[22:26] <fiki196> :P
[22:26] <mukaibot> is your headset USB?
[22:26] <fiki196> no
[22:27] <mukaibot> ok good!
[22:27] <mukaibot> so do you get any sound out?
[22:27] <Aleksa> dexer, If you're a gamer, you should know that the KDE games run faster and faster rendering
[22:27] <mukaibot> as in, it works as headphones?
[22:27] <fiki196> yes getting sound out works
[22:27] <Aleksa> in KDE
[22:27] <fiki196> on headphones and on speakers
[22:27] <mukaibot> so it's just the mic then.
[22:27] <fiki196> yes
[22:27] <fiki196> :P
[22:28] <mukaibot> are you using Ubuntu or KBuntu or some other flavour?
[22:28] <Aleksa> Who know how make fast turbo xorg.conf for big fps in games? NVIDIA! Help please!
[22:28] <fiki196> Ubuntu standard
[22:28] <fiki196> Ubuntu 11
[22:28] <[deXter]> Aleksa, I never play native linux games.. (except for Tux Racer and Xgalaga :P)
[22:29] <mukaibot> ok - have you tried using gnome-sound-recorder, or just Skype?
[22:29] <[deXter]> Aleksa, What KDE games are you playing?
[22:29] <fiki196> hmm i have tried skype but i have also toyed around the input in the sound settings and my internal microphone works,that is my laptop has its' own mic which works
[22:29] <fiki196> but that mic is bad and gets sound from my laptop cooler etc
[22:30] <mukaibot> sure
[22:30] <mukaibot> can you use the gnome-sound-recorder
[22:30] <Aleksa> bb all! :(
[22:30] <mukaibot> and see if you can record *any* sound
[22:30] <[deXter]> wth?
[22:31] <fiki196> yes
[22:31] <fiki196> but a saw a screenshot of a guy he had many more choices in his profile part in hardware in sound settings
[22:31] <fiki196> i have not so many :P which i guess i should
[22:31] <mukaibot> fiki196: lets worry about your computer, not someone elses :)
[22:31] <fiki196> ok :)
[22:32] <fiki196> i tried gnome
[22:32] <fiki196> recorder
[22:32] <mnewton> hey, I'm having some trouble with sound on ubuntu 11.10; when i plug in my headphones - i can't change the volume of the application. I can control the main volume, but this does nothing unless it is muted. I dont have this problem when I don't use headphones
[22:32] <fiki196> i can record the sound only when i use my internal mic
[22:32] <mukaibot> so do you get a choice to use something else?
[22:32] <mukaibot> or does sound only record using the internal mic?
[22:32] <fiki196> well there is only record input from Master
[22:32] <mukaibot> maybe we just need to change the default?
[22:33] <fiki196> nothing else there and i can switch it in input
[22:33] <fiki196> which mic it uses
[22:33] <mukaibot> oh ok
[22:33] <mukaibot> but that doesn't work?
[22:33] <fiki196> well i can switch to the analog mic but nothing happens
[22:33] <vsync> try alsamixer
[22:34] <mukaibot> but Ubuntu 11.10 will be using Pulse Audio right?
[22:34] <fiki196> well i think not?
[22:34] <mukaibot> sorry - I don't know much about sound
[22:34] <vsync> mukaibot pa is just a man-in-the-middle
[22:34] <mnewton> I'm on a Dell XPS l401x
[22:34] <mukaibot> my understanding was that pulse was the main audio, and alsa, oss etc plugs into that
[22:34] <vsync> there's still ALSA and/or other architectures in the background
[22:34] <fiki196> i have tried alsa in terminal
[22:34] <vsync> PA just manages them
[22:35] <esuave> anyone use sslscan before?
[22:35] <deadowl_> My system log is getting spammed with the following to the extent of eating GB upon GB of data, it's going to kill my effing hard drive if I don't fix it: Feb  2 07:49:09 localhost kernel: [35888.285733] Valid eCryptfs headers not found in file header region or xattr region
[22:35] <vsync> fiki196 run alsamixer
[22:35] <fiki196> i have done that before,but i'll try again
[22:35] <vsync> and see whether there's any suggestion of the input
[22:36] <fiki196> there are options mic,internal mic,cd,line in
[22:36] <fiki196> i am guessing mic is what i need
[22:36] <mukaibot> sounds like it
[22:36] <zarbula> try to do the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Horde4%20Mail%20And%20Groupware%20Server to install horde, at the end doing a php -v for errors and getting PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/imagic.so' - /usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/imagic.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0 any help?
[22:37] <fiki196> i just tryed out changing a couple of things in alsa
[22:38] <kjcole> How do I add the keyboard-layout-indicator to the unity panel (Oneiric)?
[22:38] <fiki196> but nothing really happened
[22:38] <vsync> what you can try to do is, in alsamixer mute the internal mic, and boost up the mic or line-in
[22:39] <vsync> iirc, M enables/disables a device in alsamixer
[22:39] <kjcole> I've enabled three keyboard layouts, and Shift+CapsLock switches between them.  But on a fresh install, I also have the indicator.  On an upgraded machine, no indicator.
[22:39] <vsync> fiki196 so disable the internal and enable "mic" or "Line in"
[22:40] <mukaibot> zarbula: apt-get install php5-imagick
[22:40] <fiki196> did i mention in the support list in alsa i couldn't find my chipset
[22:40] <fiki196> and i tried that now as well still not working
[22:40] <fiki196> but for some reason
[22:40] <fiki196> my internal mic works eventhough
[22:40] <fiki196> i have muted it
[22:42] <mukaibot> fiki196: what about muting mic and unmuting internal mic?
[22:42] <mukaibot> just wondering if Alsa is labeling them incorrectly
[22:42] <fiki196> wait a sec i might have got it,need to test it somewhere
[22:43] <fiki196> hmm i think it's still the internal mic working
[22:43] <fiki196> yes it's the internal
[22:43] <fiki196> :P
[22:43] <vsync> so, solved?
[22:43] <fiki196> no
[22:43] <fiki196> :P
[22:43] <vsync> how
[22:44] <vsync> or what
[22:44] <fiki196> the internal mic was working all along
[22:44] <fiki196>  i need to get the headset mic
[22:44] <fiki196> working
[22:44] <mukaibot> mmm
[22:45] <fiki196> is there anything else than alsa i could use for my sound driver
[22:45] <guest> aoenuth
[22:45] <guest> testing
[22:46] <fiki196> i have seen OSS
[22:46] <fiki196> but it's not really helpful because in its list i couldnt find ICH9 either
[22:47] <fiki196> that's what i get for trying to install linux on a gaming laptop :P
[22:48] <mukaibot> fiki196: you can always run Ubuntu in a VM on your Windows install
[22:48] <mukaibot> It's about the right tool for the job
[22:48] <multipass> how do i get back into the GUI after doing ctrl alt f2?
[22:48] <mukaibot> multipass: ctrl alt f7
[22:48] <fiki196> i was mainly interested in using ubuntu for stability and security
[22:48] <mukaibot> sure
[22:49] <mukaibot> use it for that in a VM then :)
[22:49] <mukaibot> I have a mate who uses it that way because he likes to visit what he terms "websites of questionable character"
[22:49] <mukaibot> and doesn't want to infect his Windows install :)
[22:50] <fiki196> the funny part is i don't even know how i get my windows infected
[22:50] <fiki196> it just happens after some time
[22:50] <fiki196> lol
[22:50] <mukaibot> heh :)
[22:50] <mukaibot> just remember than you need to keep both Windows and Ubuntu updated
[22:50] <fiki196> i really like ubuntu,and i have used mint in the past
[22:50] <mukaibot> Yeah, Ubuntu is pretty neat
[22:50] <fiki196> but when i used mint i didnt have headphones so i didnt have this issue
[22:51] <mukaibot> I really do like Unity (it seems to get a bad rep)
[22:51] <fiki196> yeah i like it too
[22:51] <mukaibot> fiki196: I doubt this issue is specific to Ubuntu
[22:51] <fiki196> gives you lots of space
[22:51] <vsync> fiki196 did you check priv?
[22:51] <fiki196> priv?
[22:51] <fiki196> what is priv?
[22:51] <vsync> i messaged you
[22:51] <kjcole> I haven't become a Unity fan, but rather than stay mired in the past, I'm making peace with it.
[22:52] <mukaibot> vsync: can you keep the messages in here too? I'm interested in the fix!
[22:52] <vsync> sure
[22:52] <zykotick9> mukaibot: multipass small addition - when you are in a VT, you only need ALT+F# (in Xorg you need the ALT+CTRL+F#)
[22:52] <mukaibot> zykotick9: oh, nice
[22:52] <mukaibot> zykotick9: good tip!
[22:52] <fiki196> oh btw how do you adress some1 in irc,i have been using irc channels for ages never semmed to ask that :D
[22:52] <kjcole> Biggest annoyance (though I haven't looked into solving it): When I want to click on something at the left, the dashboard pops up and interferes.
[22:53] <vsync> well, I was just thinking that there might be switches for mics on playback too, for loopback purposes. So I wanna be sure fiki196 was checking out the Capture-settings, so either navigate to "capture" with alsamixer, or then open up the capture-view with: alsamixer -V capture
[22:53] <mukaibot> kjcole: you can make it always show
[22:53] <mukaibot> which I find is a must
[22:53] <fiki196> you mean like alsamixer then F4
[22:53] <vsync> yes
[22:53] <mukaibot> kjcole: are you using the 2d version or the 3d version?
[22:53] <fiki196> yes that's where i have been trying to change something
[22:53] <vsync> was just thinking whether you were going thru playback
[22:53] <vsync> oh ok
[22:54] <sy> hi
[22:54] <kjcole> mukaibot: How do I tell?
[22:54] <mukaibot> kjcole: is it slow or fast? :)
[22:54] <mukaibot> kjcole: kidding!
[22:54] <mukaibot> kjcole: do you have transparency when you activate the dash?
[22:55] <kjcole> mukaibot: transparency
[22:55] <ericus> what tweaks are there for a netbook with ubuntu?
[22:55] <ericus> with SSD disk
[22:55] <mukaibot> kjcole: then you're using the 3d version...I'm not sure how to set that
[22:56] <ericus> I've disabled all the dameons that I don't need
[22:56] <mukaibot> ericus: post the output of cat /etc/fstab
[22:56] <ericus> and installed powertop
[22:56] <mukaibot> kjcole: let me check
[22:56] <deadowl> I'm having a problem with this writing in my syslog file and filling up my hard drive every day, I don't want it to destroy my hard drive :( Feb  2 07:49:09 localhost kernel: [35888.285733] Valid eCryptfs headers not found in file header region or xattr region
[22:56] <ericus> mukaibot: are you thinking about trim?
[22:57] <vsync> fiki196... driver side, ICH9 you say? There's this 'fix' for the drivers, described in forums... It basically passes a parameter to the snd-hda-intel -module. That is the one you're using am i right?
[22:57] <ericus> that is enables
[22:57] <ericus> enabled*
[22:57] <fiki196> yes
[22:57] <fiki196> you are
[22:57] <canurabus> hiya. I finally have Ubuntu set up the way I like it -- drivers/software and all. I'd like to back it up so that I can restore, exactly to this point just by copying over to a partition in the future. What's a good way to do this?
[22:57] <mukaibot> kjcole: http://askubuntu.com/questions/29553/how-can-i-configure-unity
[22:57] <mukaibot> ericus: yes
[22:57] <fiki196> vsync yes you are right
[22:57] <kirkland> deadowl: it won't destroy your hard drive;  you have some empty files in your lower ecryptfs directory
[22:57] <mukaibot> ericus: that's pretty much all I would suggest !
[22:58] <ericus> ok mukaibot
[22:58] <vsync> basically it's to add "options snd-hda-intel model=mobile" to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[22:58] <ericus> any other tweaks?
[22:58] <vsync> then rmmod snd-hda-intel and restart alsa, I suppose
[22:58] <ericus> running openbox
[22:58] <deadowl> kirkland, need to find them, and it can destroy my hard drive at the rate the error's filling up the syslog and kernel log. I've had to purge 8GB three times already
[22:58] <fiki196> vsync: could you give me a step  by step,because i am not really experienced
[22:58] <mukaibot> canurabus: look into Back In Time. Ubuntu has Dejadup now, but it creates compressed tarballs which aren't as easy to simply copy and paste back
[22:59] <vsync> fiki196 sure
[22:59] <ericus> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4375930/scrot.png
[22:59] <mukaibot> canurabus: or you can use dd :)
[22:59] <fiki196> vsync:  i do know where to find the file though
[22:59] <canurabus> mukaibot, yeah I was thinking of just using dd. I want to blind copy the entire partition... not interested in selectively backing up folders, etc. Thanks for the input.
[22:59] <ericus> and eee-tray
[22:59] <vancouverwill> hi all, hope you are doing well.  I might be missing something obvious about permissions or access but I have been trying for several months on and off to have my ubuntu web root be on a seperate NTFS partition and have not been able to get this to work. Is this just not possible?
[22:59] <mukaibot> canurabus: keep in mind that dd will be a lot slower
[22:59] <mukaibot> canurabus: I think Back In Time will be better
[23:00] <Walex4> vancouverwill: surely it is possible, it is even easy.
[23:00] <vsync> yeah, open it up, gotta sudo, and then to the bottom of the file add "options snd-hda-intel model=mobile" fiki196, without the quotes ofc
[23:00] <mukaibot> vancouverwill: do you have to use NTFS?
[23:00] <canurabus> mukaibot, is there anything preventing me from just tar-ing the entire partition?
[23:00] <vancouverwill> Hi Walex, whenever I try access the web files I get access denied erros
[23:01] <Walex4> vancouverwill: check carefully that you mount it with the right 'uid=,gid=,umask=' parameters
[23:01] <canurabus> (from another distro)
[23:01] <fiki196> vsync:  i edited the file how do i restart alsa now
[23:01] <vancouverwill> the reason to use NTFS is so I can dual boot from windows or ubuntu and work on the same localhost web development files
[23:01] <zzecool> .
[23:01] <kjcole> mukaibot: (Phone rang.) Thanks.  I'm reading through the post now.
[23:02] <vsync> fiki196 best option would be to restart the computer. However you may try if it works without restarting: sudo rmmod snd-hda-intel && sudo /etc/init.d/alsasound restart
[23:02] <vancouverwill> walex: thankyou, I haven't set those parameters just used the default
[23:02] <vsync> can't remember if the initscript is named "alsasound" in ubuntu :\
[23:02] <ericus> any other optimisations for 10.04 on a netbook? gnome/openbox, powertop, ssd
[23:02] <vsync> it's probably named alsa-something though
[23:03] <fiki196> it's in use so i have to restart it seems
[23:03] <fiki196> ok be back in a sec then
[23:03] <vsync> mmeh, can't you force shutdown modules
[23:03] <Walex4> vancouverwill: by default NTFS filetrees are mounted as the logged in user, which isn't the web server user.
[23:03] <Gentoo64> ericus, add noatime to fstab and use noop scheduler
[23:03] <mukaibot> kjcole: no worries
[23:04] <mukaibot> canurabus: yeah, Back in Time is basically a front end to Rsync
[23:04] <vancouverwill> walex4: I should mount the whole partiion as the web server user?
[23:04] <mukaibot> but it uses hard links so it's very space efficient
[23:05] <ericus> Gentoo64: tell me more about that please
[23:05] <_Neytiri_> what is the path to the logout command? i am trying to write a script for a lab that will logout the user if they answer yes to a question
[23:05] <mukaibot> I suppose it comes down to balancing the sophistication of the backup against the simplicity of the restore
[23:06] <Gentoo64> ericus, noatime speeds up the disks, add it to all disks, and use noop for the ssd as you want a basic scheduler for it
[23:06] <mukaibot> _Neytiri_: it's a shell built-in. To learn where a program is, you can type "which logout"
[23:06] <_Neytiri_> i tried which logout and got nothing
[23:06] <denstark> Hello! Is there any way to use apt-get without being root? (and not using sudo) like adding a user to a specific group?
[23:06] <ericus>  /               ext4    discard,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[23:06] <mukaibot> denstark: no
[23:07] <ericus> Gentoo64: I only got one disk
[23:07] <Gentoo64> ericus, make it noatime,discard etc etc
[23:07] <denstark> mukaibot: shucks. hokay then, thanks for your help
[23:07] <fiki196> vsync: i'm still out of luck
[23:08] <vsync> hmm
[23:08] <fiki196> i can give you a teamviewer number if you wanna take a look urself :P
[23:08] <wopalala> hello, i have a sony vaio and i fixed the touchpad scrolling issue with ubuntu, but the scroll of the mouse wont work. Anyone knows how can i fix it?
[23:09] <ericus> Gentoo64: will this mount /tmp in RAM?
[23:10] <Gentoo64> ericus, no
[23:10] <ericus> cause I've only got 1GB RAM
[23:10] <Gentoo64> you can do that if you like...
[23:10] <mukaibot> denstark: what are you trying to achieve?
[23:10] <Gentoo64> tmp is normally only couple mb so pretty pointless
[23:10] <ericus> okay Gentoo64, I will give it a go
[23:10] <almoxarife> fiki196: what are you trying to achieve?
[23:11] <fiki196> trying to fix my sound problems,actually my problem is i have tried a bunch of things and my headphone mic isn't working
[23:11] <denstark> mukaibot: writing a script to perform updates on remote ubuntu hosts, can't ssh as root, so i was seeing if there was an alternative to editing sudo to allow those to run for a specific user without a password
[23:11] <Exception7377> hello ubuntu users
[23:12] <denstark> i guess that should be my next question, is there already something like that to perform updates on X number of machines (say, 100 at a time) already made? ;)
[23:12] <almoxarife> fiki196: are you allowing pulseaudio to manage sound?
[23:12] <fiki196> not that i'm aware of?
[23:12] <brian__> OK UBUNTU USERS WHAT IS THE COMMAND IN TERMINAL TO START CHROME
[23:13] <denstark> brian__: chromium-browser
[23:13] <denstark> but it's case sensitive, so if caps lock is on, it won't work
[23:13] <denstark> ;)
[23:13] <tjiggi_fo> heh
[23:13] <almoxarife> fiki196: what version of ubuntu?
[23:13] <ShiFTKey> hi
[23:13] <fiki196> 11
[23:13] <ShiFTKey> anyone know how to edit text while using busybox?
[23:13] <mukaibot> denstark: Oh wow, you have a lot of options then.
[23:13] <brian__> A
[23:13] <brian__> A
[23:13] <mukaibot> denstark: sudo will do what you want
[23:13] <brian__> a
[23:13] <mukaibot> denstark: or you can look into something like spacewalk / pupet
[23:14] <mukaibot> *puppet
[23:14] <almoxarife> fiki196: your headset is usb?
[23:14] <vsync> fiki196 which laptop is it again?
[23:14] <fiki196> MSI GX623
[23:14] <fiki196> it's not an usb headset
[23:14] <denstark> mukaibot: we use puppet for other things, and it is a possibility to do it for this, but it just seems like a lot of overhead... I'll check out spacewalk
[23:15] <mukaibot> denstark: with the SUDO option, just create a group (like UpdateUsers), then in sudo.conf, allow that group access to apt-get update, apt-get upgrade without a password
[23:15] <almoxarife> fiki196: care to share what it is?
[23:15] <mukaibot> denstark: SpaceWalk will be more overhead :)
[23:15] <fiki196> almoxarife: the headset?
[23:15] <mukaibot> denstark: the scripting option will be the easiest, especially if you have Puppet
[23:15] <almoxarife> fiki196: the mic is part of a headset?
[23:16] <denstark> mukaibot: gotcha ;) I may go with the sudo option then. Have to go boot into recovery now, because the file i put into /etc/sudoers.d/ is 644, and now I can't sudo at all :P
[23:16] <wopalala> hello, i have a sony vaio and i fixed the touchpad scrolling issue with ubuntu, but the scroll of the mouse wont work. Anyone knows how can i fix it?
[23:16] <fiki196> yes,but it's like a normal input,2 inputs one for sound and one for mic
[23:16] <fiki196> razer carcharias is the headset
[23:16] <almoxarife> fiki196: got it
[23:16] <mukaibot> denstark: ROFL. That's great :)
[23:16] <mukaibot> denstark: too much security eh?
[23:16] <kingnebex> HI...
[23:17] <denstark> mukaibot: seems that way... haha
[23:17] <denstark> mukaibot: thanks for your help!
[23:17] <mukaibot> denstark: hey, it's not paranoia if they're REALLY out to get you :)
[23:17] <denstark> I'll be back if I have more questions ;)
[23:17] <mukaibot> denstark: good luck
[23:17] <mukaibot> denstark: sure
[23:17] <almoxarife> fiki196: tried alsamixer? look for mute's (MM)??
[23:18] <fiki196> yes i did pretty much all of that stuff talked with vsync here :P
[23:18] <fiki196> btw in skype
[23:18] <fiki196> it says PulseAudio server (local)
[23:19] <fiki196> in all microphone and speakers
[23:19] <fiki196> does that mean i am using pulse audio?
[23:19] <mnewton> hey, I'm having some trouble with sound on ubuntu 11.10; when i plug in my headphones - i can't change the volume of the application. I can control the main volume, but this does nothing unless it is muted. I dont have this problem when I don't use headphones
[23:19] <almoxarife> fiki196: would you open a terminal and run the following command    sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[23:19] <fiki196> almoxarife: ok a bunch of stuff just happened what now?
[23:20] <almoxarife> fiki196: stuff?
[23:20] <fiki196> well i installed it
[23:21] <almoxarife> fiki196: run this to share syslog,    pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[23:21] <vsync> fiki196 ok hmm, there's a parameter for the driver not specifically for gx623, however it has been raported to work with it
[23:22] <fiki196> almoxarife: i didn't quite understand what should i run?
[23:22] <fiki196> vsync: i'm open to anything at this point :P
[23:22] <vsync> so the file, /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base - the option for snd-hda-intel switch the 'model=mobile' to 'model=targa-dig'
[23:22] <vsync> and reboot
[23:22] <almoxarife> fiki196: pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[23:23] <vsync> fiki196 that parameter is for MSI-laptops, and has been reported to have the driver fully functional with the gx623 too
[23:23] <almoxarife> fiki196: nevermind, vsync will assist
[23:23] <thomas_> test
[23:23] <fiki196> ah i understand this is a pastebin utility
[23:24] <thomas_> anybody know where i might ask a php recursion question?
[23:24] <fiki196> almoxarife: http://paste.ubuntu.com/827058/
[23:24] <fiki196> vsync: that's great news,so what should i do :)
[23:24] <fiki196> vsync: i just have a lot of things i added into the config file of alsa trying to fix the problem
[23:25] <mnewton> q
[23:25] <vsync> that file is what alsa uses for autoloading modules
[23:25] <vsync> so it's an easy way to pass a parameter for it, straight on boot
[23:25] <mukaibot> thomas_: probably in the PHP channel!
[23:25] <fiki196> vsync: should i delete some of the lines i added?
[23:25] <vsync> so the file, /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base - the option for snd-hda-intel switch the 'model=mobile' to 'model=targa-dig'
[23:26] <vsync> try that for starters
[23:26] <vsync> then, reboot
[23:26] <ericus> noatime killed my wifi
[23:26] <fiki196> btw ubuntu last time
[23:26] <EderNauta> hello guys
[23:26] <fiki196> didn't want to reboot on it's own
[23:26] <fiki196> had to do it manually
[23:27] <fiki196> ok changed
[23:27] <fiki196> see you in a min
[23:27] <fiki196> :P
[23:27] <vsync> alright, however modify that and then reboot. That supposedly gets the driver fully functional on gx623 too
[23:27] <vsync> sure
[23:27] <Jianju> Hello, everyone!
[23:27] <Jianju> Is anyone free to answer a few questions about Unity on 11.04? I think I hosed it..
[23:28] <ericus> shoot Jianju
[23:28] <Jianju> Well, I was trying to install Compiz Fusion, (to be cool like that)
[23:28] <Jianju> and it seems theres some conflict between it & Unity..
[23:29] <Jianju> so I kept trying to smooth it out, but kept making it worse
[23:29] <Jianju> so now I'm having to run off the DVD because I don't have my launcher anymore, & windows dont have the menus at the top
[23:30] <dwltr> you have comand line access?
[23:30] <dwltr> have you booted with your root drive mapped to the hard disk.
[23:30] <Jianju> To be honest, I'm still learning Linux, & don't know the terminal very well, but I think I can open it, yeah.
[23:31] <Jianju> Can I do that from the partitiion editor during the install options?
[23:31] <fiki196> vsync:stuff definetely changed,the choiced are different
[23:31] <dwltr> you're trying to reinstall?
[23:32] <Jianju> yeah, it's totally different than when I used it before.
[23:32] <dwltr> I think there's a boot option to point do the disk.
[23:32] <vsync> fiki196 well, sounds promising
[23:32] <dwltr> So you booted off of dvd/cd and your menus are broken or it was broken before.
[23:33] <Jianju> Broke my menus, so booted off the DVD so I could at least launch Firefox & start looking for solutions.
[23:33] <dwltr> right.
[23:34] <metaspike> Jianju, "broke your menus?" how?
[23:34] <fiki196> vsync: but it seems my mic isn't working still
[23:34] <dwltr> something with borked compiz installs.
[23:35] <Jianju> Futzing with Compiz Fusion & the conflicts with Unity Desktop
[23:35] <Jianju> running 11.04
[23:35] <fiki196> vsync: could i see where you found the solution?
[23:35] <metaspike> nice, well you can probably just remove the compiz settings to get the defaults
[23:35] <Jianju> Actually, a variant of Ubuntu called Cogbuntu, but same operating system with some dev packages pre-installed.
[23:36] <Jianju> So I should open a terminal & purge Compiz?
[23:36] <dwltr> I think metaspike is talking about doing this by removing a config file in your home directory.
[23:37] <vsync> fiki196 http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=137959.0
[23:37] <dwltr> have you mounted your home drive [ since you are booting from cd/dvd ]
[23:37] <Jianju> Yeah, because Unity is still there, but I accidentally turned it off, & now it boots with Unity off.
[23:37] <vsync> there's a bunch of diff. params for gx-series, seems like gx623 has support for 7+1channels, so maybe targa-8ch-dig could work. Dno.
[23:38] <Jianju> I haven't tried mounting my home drive. I will try to do that...
[23:38] <dwltr> you can select unity from the login screen on the bottom menu bar can't you?
[23:38] <fiki196> it has 7.1
[23:38] <fiki196> support
[23:38] <fiki196> i think
[23:39] <vsync> yup
[23:39] <fiki196> ah i have a lot of testing to do now
[23:39] <vsync> so you could try model=targa-8ch-dig
[23:39] <ericus>               ext4    noatime,nodiratime,discard,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[23:39] <fiki196> what about the last post
[23:39] <fiki196> options snd-hda-intel index=0
[23:39] <fiki196> options snd-hda-intel model=acer-aspire-7730g
[23:39] <vsync> different laptop, could use a diff. modified chipset
[23:40] <ericus> that did the trick, without nodiratime wifi wasnt working
[23:40] <vsync> or, it most likely uses a different audio chipset
[23:40] <Jianju> I have the bottom menu bar now (in place of the Unity bar) but I see no "login screen"
[23:40] <vsync> So I don't think that'd work
[23:41] <dwltr> are you booted from dvd still?
[23:41] <vsync> my money's on going for model=targa-8ch-dig, but i dunno.
[23:41] <Jianju> Yeah, haven't done anything but boot from DVD, launch Firefox, & come here to IRC.
[23:41] <Jianju> But yes, I can see my hard drive partitions.
[23:42] <fiki196> vsync: restarting one more time then have to leave soon,cuz i have a plane to catch tomorrow :P
[23:42] <dwltr> and you can mount your home directory.
[23:43] <Jianju> So I need to edit a config file on my boot partition?
[23:43] <dwltr> not sure if your boot partition holds your home directory or not. but your home directory.
[23:43] <catcher> Hello, I'm about to install ubuntu on a 64-bit workstation for a web developer. Is it advised to install the 64-bit version of ubuntu?
[23:43] <dwltr> if you only have one linux partition then it's the same
[23:44] <Jianju> I can see my home directory, yes.
[23:45] <HavokDelta6> catcher.........
[23:45] <HavokDelta6> why would you ask?
[23:45] <Jianju> Okay, I'm in home/ubuntu.
[23:45] <dwltr> http://askubuntu.com/questions/71926/resetting-ccsm-settings
[23:45] <Jianju> reading link- brb
[23:46] <dwltr> can you run the alt+f2 command from your default boot?
[23:46] <bluezone> Does anyone else realise how Flash doesn't seem too... humm... behave the same way it does on windows. For instance say there some message box that allows you to type in it, in windows when you press "space" it would respond by ONLY making a space. In ubuntu what's seems to be happening is that both the browser and the flash player respond to the space bar, so in addition to making a space the page will also  scroll in the downward
[23:46] <bluezone> direction. Is there a fix for this?
[23:46] <fiki196> vsync: running out of options the 8 ch didnt work
[23:46] <Jianju> I believe I tried that & couldn't open the terminal.
[23:46] <catcher> HavokDelta6, I ask since I've read some applications are still unstable in 64 bit, and those versions may be installed by default in a 64-bit version of the OS.
[23:48] <_godhelpme> how do i make it so that a user makes a file it will by default create it so that the owner would be user and the group would be newgroup
[23:48] <HavokDelta6> catcher, source?
[23:49] <mukaibot> bluezone: Flash really sucks. Unfortunately it's up to Adobe to fix it's (numerous) problems
[23:49] <scwizard> bluezone, oh man I remember that when trying to play flash games on linux
[23:49] <bluezone> yeah ^.^
[23:49] <nils_> flash needs to die.
[23:49] <HavokDelta6> bluezone, flashaid FTW
[23:49] <mukaibot> nils_: bring on HTML5!
[23:49] <HavokDelta6> nils_, what matters is that Flash outlived Steve Jobs
[23:49] <mukaibot> HavokDelta6: snap!
[23:49] <kingnebex> hey guys can any 1 help me out....i want to download videos from youtube....how can i do that?
[23:49] <mukaibot> kingnebex: look for a firefox addin
[23:50] <Jianju> @mukaibot: hear hear- I'm all about WebGL
[23:50] <acerimmer> kingnebex, plenty of firefox add ons will dl video
[23:50] <HavokDelta6> acerimmer!
[23:50] <HavokDelta6> heh
[23:50] <acerimmer> HavokDelta6, yo
[23:51] <Jianju> o1e9: Ok, dwltr, I read the link & wrote down the commands. I think I'll give it a try. Thanks for your help!!!
[23:51] <bluezone> HavokDelta6, haha
[23:51] <brian_petersen> My battery is not being detected by my linux kernel. I am using the latest kernel  and yet it is still not being detected. I think it is due to my DSDT being poorly written by the laptop maker, but I need some help with this problem. I have a toshiba satellite l755 s5360
[23:52] <arooni-mobile> do any WWAN wireless cards work in ubuntu?
[23:52] <fiki196> vsync: !!!!!! i solved it!
[23:52] <fiki196> vsync: the solution was the one u thought wouldn't work :D!
[23:52] <fiki196> vsync: finally
[23:53] <fiki196> i can enjoy ubuntu as well as my sound
[23:53] <kingnebex> @mukaibot which 1?
[23:53] <fiki196> maukaibot: i fixed it finally the soultion was really wierd
[23:54] <mukaibot> fiki196: what was it?
[23:54] <vsync> fiki196 which?
[23:54] <mukaibot> (btw if you start typing someones nick name tab will auto complete)
[23:54] <fiki196> options snd-hda-intel index=0
[23:54] <fiki196> options snd-hda-intel model=acer-aspire-7730g
[23:54] <fiki196> that was the answer
[23:54] <fiki196> vsync: options snd-hda-intel index=0
[23:54] <fiki196> options snd-hda-intel model=acer-aspire-7730g
[23:54] <vsync> yeah
[23:54] <vsync> well, weird enough =p
[23:55] <vsync> but good you got it fixed finally =D
[23:55] <fiki196> yeah took quite some time
[23:55] <mukaibot> weird as
[23:55] <mukaibot> good job!
[23:55] <fiki196> thank you guys for coping with me :D
[23:55] <TheYsNoi> good day to all...
[23:55] <vsync> nps, gonna hit the sack - cyas
[23:55] <fiki196> me too
[23:56] <fiki196> bye all and great work! one more problem fixed !
[23:56] <fiki196> :D
[23:58] <almoxarife> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1855765 <-- fiki196, was that your laptop also
[23:59] <krazed> Mmmmm, KDE is so much sexier then the unity interface. Facttt.