[08:51] <ProGimp> Where can i see some showcase that deals in Motion Graphics using Ubuntustudio ?
[08:54] <ProGimp> Everybody is sleeping.
[20:30] <acerimmer> *grumble* after all that work figuring out how to switch ubuntu buttons from right to left they're set at left to right on xubuntu...
[20:36] <astraljava> acerimmer: Heheh. :) Ctrl + w, Ctrl + q, Alt + F9 and Alt + F10 are your friends.
[20:40] <acerimmer> astraljava, tyvm.  Presently previewing the new platform.  Gotta say, the transition won't be entirely pain-free...
[20:41] <holstein> acerimmer: from gnome to XFCE ?
[20:41] <acerimmer> holstein, right
[20:41] <holstein> i think its easier than gnome to gnome ;)
[20:42] <acerimmer> holstein, my time on XFCE is measured in minutes.  Hopefully in time, familiarity will increase my comfort level.
[20:43] <holstein> acerimmer: drop into KDE, gnome3 or unity, or any of the rest that are presently supported, and i think you will see why we chose XFCE
[20:43] <acerimmer> holstein, not questioning why, just minor venting.
[20:43] <acerimmer> holstein, I'm still committed to UStudio
[20:44] <holstein> well, it doenst have much to do with UStudio... gnome just reved
[20:45] <acerimmer> holstein, true
[20:46] <ailo> gnome3 rules! :P
[20:46] <holstein> lol
[20:46] <holstein> ailo: you are using it, right?
[20:46] <ailo> The only thing lacking is some customization stuff
[20:46] <ailo> Most of which you don't really need
[20:46] <holstein> i still load it up from time to time and shake my head :/
[20:47] <ailo> Why so?
[20:47] <ailo> It's faster in every way
[20:47] <holstein> faster than gnome2?
[20:47] <ailo> I think so
[20:48] <holstein> i dont find it faster than what im using, but if its working for you, thats great
[20:48] <holstein> i know lsd really likes it too
[20:48] <holstein> its just not my thing at all
[20:48] <ailo> It's just new
[20:48] <ailo> New takes a while to get used to :)
[20:48] <holstein> sure, but i dont really need/want new
[20:48] <ailo> I'm currently on Debian Wheezy, where Gnome3 is default
[20:49] <holstein> i dont feel like i want to chenge my workflow either
[20:49] <ailo> holstein: It's not that radically different after all
[20:49] <holstein> im quite happy with openbox
[20:49] <ailo> The only thing that has really changed is that the panel has changed
[20:49] <ailo> The rest is more or less just like before
[20:49] <holstein> i suppose
[20:50] <ailo> With additional functions, like searching for apps in the shell. Super easy
[20:50] <holstein> i just dont like the look or the feel of it
[20:50] <holstein> things are not where they used to be
[20:50] <holstein> and when i find them, im always surprised
[20:51] <holstein> with openbox, its either no where, or where i put it
[20:52] <ailo> If I need to open an app, I just press SUPER key, start typing a few letters of the name, boom ENTER
[20:52] <holstein> right
[20:52] <holstein> i have kupfer for that
[20:52] <holstein> i like that
[20:52] <ailo> Then there's the categories just as before
[20:52] <holstein> yup
[20:52] <holstein> its slick man.. no doubt
[20:52] <holstein> its just not the desktop experience im used to
[20:53] <holstein> and i dont find it personally improving my experience to learn
[20:53] <holstein> and i question if its evolution
[20:54] <acerimmer> asking: what is the text editor in Xu-Studio?  Google says "Mousepad" but I don't see that in the menu
[20:54] <ailo> Ever since gnome3 things are less messy for me
[20:54] <ailo> And I worry less about the desktop, and do more work
[20:54] <ailo> There's some problem with tray apps and stuff like that though
[20:55] <ailo> It's not perfect, yet
[20:55] <holstein> acerimmer: not sure yet...
[20:55] <ailo> Not a lot of nice custom themes yet either. I believe there's a great potential for them, just that no ones doing it very well yet
[20:56] <holstein> ailo: i toally agree with that
[20:56] <holstein> i didnt really like gnome2
[20:56] <holstein> i *really* like openbox though
[20:56] <ailo> Also, customizing gnome3 at this point you need to install some extra stuff, on Debian based systems at least
[20:56] <astraljava> acerimmer: I think there's only terminal editors, no GUI by default. The Xfce one would be leafpad.
[20:57] <acerimmer> astraljava, leafpad isn't installed.  strongly suggest y'all consider adding a cli editor
[20:57] <acerimmer> by default
[20:57] <astraljava> acerimmer: cli editors there are, nano, I believe.
[20:57] <astraljava> acerimmer: But yeah, the GUI editor missing is a bug, I know. Will be fixed for 12.04
[20:57] <acerimmer> astraljava, found it.  thanks.