astraljava | ochosi: Not by much. Only about 6 hours. | 01:02 |
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ochosi | astraljava: hehe, and again :) | 07:31 |
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astraljava | I see all necessary test cases have been run already. I know time is short, but let me know if you need any further help with that. | 11:58 |
knome | hai. | 12:06 |
knome | astraljava, what's up with ubiquity? :) | 12:06 |
astraljava | Studio's is almost done. I need to go through the debian/* files still, but it's getting there. I haven't done anything today, yet. Just got home from playing badminton. | 12:15 |
astraljava | When I get that reviewed, I should know exactly what to do for Xubuntu's, so that should happen quickly. | 12:15 |
astraljava | Are the meetings reoccurring regularly from now on? | 12:16 |
knome | mm-hmm. great :) | 12:16 |
knome | i'm not sure. | 12:16 |
astraljava | I hate doing calendar entries individually. :) | 12:16 |
knome | that depends on my wife's shifts | 12:16 |
astraljava | Haha! | 12:16 |
knome | i try not to schedule meetings when she's at home | 12:16 |
astraljava | My calendar entries depend on _your wife's_ shifts? | 12:16 |
astraljava | Oh man. | 12:16 |
astraljava | And I'm the last to know | 12:16 |
knome | haha :) | 12:16 |
knome | let me see the cal. | 12:17 |
knome | maybw 15.2 / 21.2 / 2.3. | 12:18 |
knome | *maybe | 12:18 |
astraljava | Yeah that's alright. If it's even semi-regularly, I'm happy to dismiss the reminders when I know it's not happening. | 12:20 |
astraljava | downloading from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20120201.1/precise-desktop-i386.iso: | 12:20 |
astraljava | #################### 100.0% 11467.9 kBps DONE | 12:20 |
astraljava | WHA?! | 12:20 |
knome | lol | 12:20 |
astraljava | That's... 12MB/s. | 12:20 |
* astraljava is officially freaked out. | 12:20 | |
knome | meh | 12:20 |
astraljava | Hmm... wait, that's not exactly a week apart. Damn. | 12:21 |
astraljava | Oh yeah. | 12:21 |
knome | yeah, not really. :) | 12:21 |
astraljava | You had the Sunday/Monday thingie. | 12:21 |
astraljava | Ok. | 12:21 |
knome | we did | 12:21 |
knome | but that sucks | 12:22 |
astraljava | Well, just have to pay attention. | 12:22 |
knome | because we need to leave reports to ubuntu-release on thursdays | 12:22 |
knome | and with sun/mon meetings, we're just going to either 1) lack ½ week behind 2) do extra work collecting things that happened after the meeting | 12:22 |
astraljava | Yeah. | 12:23 |
knome | and because 2) means i'm the one doing it, i'm just changing the meeting day rather | 12:23 |
astraljava | Scott writes them individually for us/US, so we're spared from that. | 12:23 |
knome | well yeah, works with him because he's almost the only one doing technical things :PP | 12:23 |
knome | but i'm not doing | 12:23 |
astraljava | thanks for postponing the next one, btw. | 12:24 |
knome | and i don't even understand all of them | 12:24 |
knome | and i'm not attending the meetings | 12:24 |
astraljava | Yep. | 12:24 |
knome | that's why it's so much easier to pick the email from the meeting logs :) | 12:25 |
knome | err | 12:25 |
knome | meeting minutes rather | 12:25 |
knome | btw, do you have any idea of the size the icons should be for ubiquity? | 12:26 |
knome | i could prepare those for you | 12:26 |
astraljava | 100 x 75 | 12:26 |
knome | thanks | 12:26 |
knome | will see about that tomorrow, or so | 12:27 |
astraljava | It's weird, though. There were only two, ltsp.png and fallback.png. In the tutorial there were two different pix, and I don't think neither of them were the fallback pic. But that could have changed since, the tut was for 11.04. | 12:27 |
astraljava | Yeah ok. | 12:28 |
astraljava | We have time. Isn't A-3 two weeks from now? | 12:28 |
astraljava | Oops, there is no such thing. | 12:30 |
astraljava | I suppose it needs to be finished bt UI freeze. | 12:31 |
astraljava | by* | 12:31 |
knome | or FF? | 12:34 |
astraljava | I don̈́'t suppose so, as it's a derivative-only feature. | 12:36 |
astraljava | But anyway, we should be able to do that within the next one and a half weeks. | 12:37 |
astraljava | Just in time for FF. | 12:37 |
knome | y | 12:38 |
knome | even if don't *have* to meet the deadlines, it would be good anyway | 12:58 |
knome | keeps stuff going | 12:58 |
astraljava | Yep. | 13:17 |
astraljava | I just have like a gazillion things to do, so I need to schedule real hard now. :) | 13:17 |
knome | congrats ;) | 13:17 |
knome | and welcome to the club | 13:17 |
astraljava | Heheh. | 13:18 |
astraljava | I never left it. | 13:19 |
skaet | knome, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview - could you please take a pass and update the Xubuntu section? (new features and issues you want to warn folks about) | 16:07 |
skaet | madnick, ^ | 16:08 |
skaet | astraljava, ^ if you're around, could you help out? am not seeing any response from knome or madnick. | 16:14 |
madnick | skaet: what is the deadline for that information? | 16:17 |
skaet | madnick, should have been in place by this morning, so its on the critical path now for the release. ie. as soon as possible please. | 16:19 |
madnick | i know of a few things that should go in, but i am a bit confused about when it will be done | 16:21 |
skaet | madnick, just put your best guess in for now, we'll edit as we learn more info. | 16:22 |
skaet | any improvement at this point, is much appreciated. Thanks. :) | 16:24 |
madnick | ochosi: knome | 16:39 |
knome | madnick, madnick | 17:00 |
knome | i can see if i can update that later. we have a draft for A2 release notes | 17:02 |
knome | err, let me fix that: pleia2 has :) | 17:02 |
knome | ...aand that's at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LAJrffm6R63TIGnNBKaBpDMaAevAScIrzNw1ibBpEjI/edit?pli=1 :P | 17:04 |
knome | i fixed that so it's easier to drop in to the wikipage | 17:06 |
knome | i need to go really soon | 17:06 |
pleia2 | I just woke up and my eyes are tired | 17:06 |
pleia2 | we do alpha2, yes? | 17:06 |
pleia2 | we never did an alpha1 announcement | 17:07 |
knome | ugh | 17:07 |
knome | as fas as i know, we should have all of that information in the meeting minutes | 17:07 |
knome | (that we should have in a2 announcement, or the technical overview | 17:08 |
knome | so can somebody please go through those? | 17:08 |
knome | i really need to go now, but i will be back later today | 17:08 |
knome | see you, and thanks in advance if anyone picks it up :) | 17:08 |
ochosi | madnick? | 17:33 |
madnick | ochosi: was going to ask about features for alpha 2, wondering if you had some stuff :) | 17:42 |
ochosi | oh, hm, not sure :) | 17:47 |
ochosi | i'm not entirely sure about the package-versions of alpha2 | 17:47 |
ochosi | you could take a quick peek whether the elementary-xfce icon-theme is already uploaded/included | 17:48 |
ochosi | same with a newer version of greybird than oneiric's | 17:48 |
ochosi | sorry to be so ignorant, i've been far too busy with other stuff to be able to stay on top of those things | 17:48 |
ochosi | madnick ^ | 17:49 |
madnick | ochosi: same for me :( | 17:49 |
madnick | I read the logs | 17:49 |
ochosi | but anyway, those are the potential changes from my side | 17:49 |
madnick | And I found no definate answers | 17:49 |
madnick | i guess we can run with the current info | 17:50 |
madnick | and talk more on the next meeting | 17:50 |
ochosi | where can i check what's in alpha2? | 17:50 |
madnick | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview | 17:50 |
ochosi | no, i mean the concrete package-versions and package-lists | 17:52 |
madnick | hmm not sure | 17:52 |
ochosi | that page you linked to says "mouche/touchpad" instead of "mouse" | 17:53 |
ochosi | micahg: gmusicbrowser 1.1.9 released (http://gmusicbrowser.org/devel.html), last rc before the next "stable". so feel free to push it to debian and then ubuntu ;) | 18:04 |
micahg | ochosi: ok, thanks, not happening until next week though unless alessio beats me to it | 18:19 |
ochosi | micahg: okeydokey, but it'll reach us/ubuntu before ff? | 18:20 |
micahg | yep | 18:20 |
ochosi | coolio | 18:20 |
ochosi | ty! | 18:20 |
micahg | I can sync before it hits testing | 18:20 |
pleia2 | madnick: is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview#Xubuntu accurate? (a review by knome or yourself is still noted there) | 18:53 |
madnick | pleia2: seems to be gone now | 19:12 |
knome | humh | 19:12 |
knome | nobody checked the meeting minutes? | 19:12 |
madnick | knome: i did review them, but did not know what was for a2 etc | 19:14 |
knome | right | 19:14 |
knome | we didn't have a1? | 19:15 |
madnick | im sorry i g2g i be back later tonight | 19:17 |
knome | ok | 19:17 |
knome | i'll handle this | 19:17 |
Unit193 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview/Alpha2#Xubuntu | 19:21 |
knome | okay, i updated the page | 19:27 |
knome | skaet, ^ | 19:27 |
skaet | thanks knome | 19:27 |
skaet | :) | 19:27 |
knome | np. hope to be able to deliver them more promptly in the future. that's why i've been trying to use meetingology as much as possible | 19:28 |
micahg | woohoo, new GIMP point release | 19:48 |
knome | micahg, why did the discussion at #ubuntu-mozillateam stop? :P | 19:48 |
micahg | well, I can't really fix anything in this regard, I just have ideas :) | 19:49 |
knome | mmh, well | 19:49 |
knome | i think chrisccoulson has been a bit reluctant to let it go | 19:49 |
micahg | and I gave my idea, but Chris needs to respond | 19:49 |
knome | so maybe we can get a bit forward now... | 19:49 |
micahg | well, I think he wants to avoid a thousand bug reports about a broken start page :) | 19:49 |
knome | hah | 19:50 |
* micahg needs to focus on Firefox 10 ATM, we can try to drive this next week though | 19:50 | |
knome | sure | 19:50 |
knome | thanks anyway | 19:50 |
micahg | and he might respond in a bit, it's 8PM there | 19:50 |
knome | yup | 19:50 |
* micahg grumbles about the svn version of abiword that was just uploaded | 19:52 | |
knome | hmh | 19:53 |
mr_pouit | micahg: well, now we can't say that the maintainer is inactive ;-[ | 19:57 |
micahg | heh, I have no problems with the Debian uploads, just a lack of restraint on the part of the Ubuntu people | 19:57 |
* micahg thinks it's time for that e-mail to ubuntu-devel about respecting flavors | 19:58 | |
knome | yayy | 19:58 |
mr_pouit | erk, I thought you were speaking of the debian upload | 19:59 |
mr_pouit | that's bad | 19:59 |
mr_pouit | and people always forget to check about packagesets anyway =] | 19:59 |
micahg | yeah, it's been a problem off and on, some people like the latest crack not realizing that the flavor devs don't | 19:59 |
pleia2 | knome: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LAJrffm6R63TIGnNBKaBpDMaAevAScIrzNw1ibBpEjI/edit?pli=1 looking good? | 20:29 |
pleia2 | (getting ready to post this on our site) | 20:32 |
knome | worksforme | 20:36 |
pleia2 | great | 20:36 |
pleia2 | http://xubuntu.org/precisealpha2 | 20:38 |
knome | yup | 20:38 |
pleia2 | oops, forgot /news/ | 20:39 |
pleia2 | http://xubuntu.org/news/precisealpha2 | 20:40 |
pleia2 | better | 20:40 |
baizon | thank you <3 | 20:41 |
pleia2 | now copying over to wp too | 20:41 |
pleia2 | aaand tweeted | 20:44 |
baizon | hmm | 20:51 |
baizon | got the rss msg | 20:51 |
baizon | but i thought with alpha 2 the new web site would be unleashed :D | 20:51 |
pleia2 | skaet: I got the fridge post out too :) | 20:57 |
skaet | pleia2, :D | 20:57 |
knome | baizon, not really. we have a ticket pending. the site is out whenever somebody from IS works on it | 21:19 |
baizon | ok | 21:19 |
* knome softly harrasses the IS folks | 21:22 | |
knome | we just moved from queue #20 to ~queue #6 | 21:23 |
knome | pleia2, you think we could write a new article about the new site today? | 21:24 |
pleia2 | knome: yeah, on the wordpress blog itself? | 21:24 |
knome | yup | 21:24 |
knome | exactly | 21:24 |
pleia2 | I won't get to it until later (really, really need to focus on work) but I can get to it in 6 hours or so | 21:25 |
knome | ummh, well that's a long time from now | 21:25 |
knome | i'll start writing it and will let you continue with it later :) | 21:25 |
pleia2 | ok :) | 21:26 |
knome | http://wp.xubuntu.org/news/precisealpha2/ <- bumped "updates" and "known" to headers in that page, is it better? | 21:26 |
pleia2 | yes | 21:27 |
knome | good :) | 21:27 |
ochosi | knome: i just read: website released?! :) | 21:30 |
ochosi | but xubuntu.org still looks old'n'boring | 21:30 |
knome | ochosi, well, not yet! | 21:30 |
knome | ochosi, we're #6 in queue | 21:30 |
knome | ochosi, probably gets done tomorrow | 21:30 |
ochosi | so how many years from now? | 21:30 |
ochosi | ah :) | 21:30 |
knome | HAHA | 21:30 |
knome | yeah... | 21:31 |
knome | well, we were #20 | 21:31 |
ochosi | when? | 21:31 |
knome | 5 minutes ago, before i harrassed IS softly | 21:31 |
knome | mr_pouit, SO, when is shimmer-themes uploaded? | 21:32 |
knome | ochosi, did you already see the newest wallpaper draft? (#9) | 21:32 |
knome | ochosi, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_wall/wall-draft9.png | 21:32 |
ochosi | hm, not sure, i saw one with the bird | 21:33 |
ochosi | if that was #9 then yes | 21:33 |
knome | bird is in since #6 | 21:33 |
knome | but yeah, you probably saw the latest | 21:34 |
knome | jono, hey | 21:34 |
knome | jono, you know when you enter, there will be three lines of clientcrap? | 21:34 |
jono | hey knome | 21:34 |
jono | what does it say? | 21:34 |
knome | jono, well, first you join with your sbcglobal.net host, then part, then join again with cloak | 21:35 |
jono | can you paste this? | 21:35 |
knome | jono, either set a delay in joining the channels or register with the "server" pass | 21:35 |
knome | sure, just a sec | 21:35 |
jono | knome, dude, is it that big of a deal? | 21:35 |
jono | :-) | 21:35 |
Unit193 | http://pastebin.com/fuVrgDV5 | 21:35 |
knome | jono, well yeah, it is actually 6 lines in a 80×24 window :/ | 21:36 |
ochosi | heh :) | 21:36 |
knome | jono, and that's just a stupid error and trivial to fix in most clients... | 21:36 |
jono | ..erm, I guess I don't the big deal :-) | 21:36 |
jono | how do I fix it? | 21:36 |
knome | jono, which client are you using? | 21:36 |
jono | XChat-GNOME | 21:36 |
knome | jono, /set irc_join_delay 3 | 21:37 |
knome | that should fix it | 21:37 |
jono | ok, will re-connect to test | 21:38 |
knome | hmm, try with 5 :) | 21:38 |
Unit193 | Failed :P | 21:38 |
knome | you might have too many channels for 3sec delay | 21:38 |
pleia2 | using a server password is the best solution | 21:38 |
jono | better? | 21:38 |
jono | oh dude | 21:38 |
jono | hang on | 21:38 |
jono | pleia2, can you do that for Freenode? | 21:39 |
Unit193 | Or SASL (But doesn't always work for me) | 21:39 |
pleia2 | jono: yeah, instead of sending a message to nickserv, you send that same password as a "server password" and it identifies you upon connect | 21:39 |
knome | yep | 21:39 |
knome | that's the best solution - i only know how to do that on irssi though ;) | 21:40 |
Unit193 | And as a trick, put that password as jono:ilikedancingponies to always work with your nick | 21:40 |
pleia2 | I think xchat has a spot for the server password in the connection dialog | 21:40 |
knome | Unit193, HOW DID YOU KNOW HIS PASSWORD!! | 21:40 |
jono | how do I unset the 2 second delay? | 21:40 |
Unit193 | knome: Oh dear, did I put it in channel again? Sorry..... ;) | 21:40 |
knome | jono, /set irc_join_delay 1 :) | 21:41 |
jono | /set irc_join_delay 0 | 21:41 |
jono | oops | 21:41 |
jono | oknow I will set the server pass | 21:41 |
jono | brb, testing | 21:41 |
knome | YAYY | 21:42 |
Unit193 | Hey! | 21:42 |
Unit193 | Magic! | 21:42 |
knome | jono, thanks :) | 21:42 |
jono | better? | 21:42 |
jono | awesome, thanks guys | 21:42 |
jono | you learn a new thing every day :-) | 21:42 |
jono | thanks knome! :-) | 21:42 |
knome | heh, np | 21:43 |
Unit193 | Now knome, if only I can get you to tell the rest that do that :P | 21:43 |
knome | it's just as annoying as awaynicks ;) | 21:43 |
Unit193 | knome: How about this: *** R00T_ATI e' away (See you in another life brotha!) | 21:45 |
knome | hu? :P | 21:45 |
Unit193 | Away messages plus the away nick | 21:46 |
knome | heh | 21:46 |
ochosi | knome: have you tried the wp on a single screen yet? | 21:53 |
ochosi | (with the default xfdesktop setting, dunno, i guess it's "auto") | 21:53 |
knome | ochosi, the idea is to cut it to two parts | 21:53 |
ochosi | ah | 21:53 |
knome | ochosi, so there will be no such problems :) | 21:53 |
ochosi | so which one do you wanna have as default? | 21:55 |
knome | i think the right one | 21:55 |
ochosi | if you can provide me with that part, i'd be happy to try it for a few days | 21:57 |
ochosi | (your current export is a bit too low-res to really use it) | 21:58 |
knome | ochosi, what size do you want? | 22:14 |
knome | ochosi, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_wall/wall-9-right.png | 22:17 |
knome | ochosi, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_wall/wall-9-left.png | 22:17 |
astraljava | Unit193: re: away messages; that's what /ignore is for. | 22:29 |
Unit193 | astraljava: No, that's what /kb is for :D (or /knockout if you're feeling nice) | 22:29 |
astraljava | :) | 22:30 |
* knome is excited about the new website | 22:36 | |
knome | pleia2, http://willyou.typewith.me/p/xubuntu12newsite | 23:09 |
pleia2 | knome: great, thanks, I'll take a closer look after this maintenance window (work work) | 23:23 |
knome | sure, np | 23:23 |
knome | pleia2, at some point, we might want to add the "quick links" on top of the white area :) | 23:27 |
knome | pleia2, with white icons and small text :) | 23:28 |
knome | SiDi raised a concern that the links are not really in the optimal place... | 23:28 |
pleia2 | knome: didn't we move them away from being on top? | 23:29 |
pleia2 | I don't care either way | 23:29 |
knome | pleia2, i mean, don't have to be big ones | 23:29 |
knome | pleia2, just for usability :) | 23:29 |
knome | pleia2, i have to play with that though | 23:29 |
* pleia2 nods | 23:29 | |
knome | micahg, mr_pouit: i know you are both busy, but... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alacarte/+bug/925801 | 23:59 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 925801 in alacarte (Ubuntu) "Installing alacarte installs half of GNOME" [Undecided,New] | 23:59 |
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