[01:02] ochosi: Not by much. Only about 6 hours. === jono is now known as Guest29470 [07:31] astraljava: hehe, and again :) === yofel_ is now known as yofel [11:58] I see all necessary test cases have been run already. I know time is short, but let me know if you need any further help with that. [12:06] hai. [12:06] astraljava, what's up with ubiquity? :) [12:15] Studio's is almost done. I need to go through the debian/* files still, but it's getting there. I haven't done anything today, yet. Just got home from playing badminton. [12:15] When I get that reviewed, I should know exactly what to do for Xubuntu's, so that should happen quickly. [12:16] Are the meetings reoccurring regularly from now on? [12:16] mm-hmm. great :) [12:16] i'm not sure. [12:16] I hate doing calendar entries individually. :) [12:16] that depends on my wife's shifts [12:16] Haha! [12:16] i try not to schedule meetings when she's at home [12:16] My calendar entries depend on _your wife's_ shifts? [12:16] Oh man. [12:16] And I'm the last to know [12:16] haha :) [12:17] let me see the cal. [12:18] maybw 15.2 / 21.2 / 2.3. [12:18] *maybe [12:20] Yeah that's alright. If it's even semi-regularly, I'm happy to dismiss the reminders when I know it's not happening. [12:20] downloading from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20120201.1/precise-desktop-i386.iso: [12:20] #################### 100.0% 11467.9 kBps DONE [12:20] WHA?! [12:20] lol [12:20] That's... 12MB/s. [12:20] * astraljava is officially freaked out. [12:20] meh [12:21] Hmm... wait, that's not exactly a week apart. Damn. [12:21] Oh yeah. [12:21] yeah, not really. :) [12:21] You had the Sunday/Monday thingie. [12:21] Ok. [12:21] we did [12:22] but that sucks [12:22] Well, just have to pay attention. [12:22] because we need to leave reports to ubuntu-release on thursdays [12:22] and with sun/mon meetings, we're just going to either 1) lack ½ week behind 2) do extra work collecting things that happened after the meeting [12:23] Yeah. [12:23] and because 2) means i'm the one doing it, i'm just changing the meeting day rather [12:23] Scott writes them individually for us/US, so we're spared from that. [12:23] well yeah, works with him because he's almost the only one doing technical things :PP [12:23] but i'm not doing [12:24] thanks for postponing the next one, btw. [12:24] and i don't even understand all of them [12:24] and i'm not attending the meetings [12:24] Yep. [12:25] that's why it's so much easier to pick the email from the meeting logs :) [12:25] err [12:25] meeting minutes rather [12:26] btw, do you have any idea of the size the icons should be for ubiquity? [12:26] i could prepare those for you [12:26] 100 x 75 [12:26] thanks [12:27] will see about that tomorrow, or so [12:27] It's weird, though. There were only two, ltsp.png and fallback.png. In the tutorial there were two different pix, and I don't think neither of them were the fallback pic. But that could have changed since, the tut was for 11.04. [12:28] Yeah ok. [12:28] We have time. Isn't A-3 two weeks from now? [12:30] Oops, there is no such thing. [12:31] I suppose it needs to be finished bt UI freeze. [12:31] by* [12:34] or FF? [12:36] I don̈́'t suppose so, as it's a derivative-only feature. [12:37] But anyway, we should be able to do that within the next one and a half weeks. [12:37] Just in time for FF. [12:38] y [12:58] even if don't *have* to meet the deadlines, it would be good anyway [12:58] keeps stuff going [13:17] Yep. [13:17] I just have like a gazillion things to do, so I need to schedule real hard now. :) [13:17] congrats ;) [13:17] and welcome to the club [13:18] Heheh. [13:19] I never left it. [16:07] knome, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview - could you please take a pass and update the Xubuntu section? (new features and issues you want to warn folks about) [16:08] madnick, ^ [16:14] astraljava, ^ if you're around, could you help out? am not seeing any response from knome or madnick. [16:17] skaet: what is the deadline for that information? [16:19] madnick, should have been in place by this morning, so its on the critical path now for the release. ie. as soon as possible please. [16:21] i know of a few things that should go in, but i am a bit confused about when it will be done [16:22] madnick, just put your best guess in for now, we'll edit as we learn more info. [16:24] any improvement at this point, is much appreciated. Thanks. :) [16:39] ochosi: knome [17:00] madnick, madnick [17:02] i can see if i can update that later. we have a draft for A2 release notes [17:02] err, let me fix that: pleia2 has :) [17:04] ...aand that's at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LAJrffm6R63TIGnNBKaBpDMaAevAScIrzNw1ibBpEjI/edit?pli=1 :P [17:06] i fixed that so it's easier to drop in to the wikipage [17:06] i need to go really soon [17:06] I just woke up and my eyes are tired [17:06] we do alpha2, yes? [17:07] we never did an alpha1 announcement [17:07] ugh [17:07] as fas as i know, we should have all of that information in the meeting minutes [17:08] (that we should have in a2 announcement, or the technical overview [17:08] so can somebody please go through those? [17:08] i really need to go now, but i will be back later today [17:08] see you, and thanks in advance if anyone picks it up :) [17:33] madnick? [17:42] ochosi: was going to ask about features for alpha 2, wondering if you had some stuff :) [17:47] oh, hm, not sure :) [17:47] i'm not entirely sure about the package-versions of alpha2 [17:48] you could take a quick peek whether the elementary-xfce icon-theme is already uploaded/included [17:48] same with a newer version of greybird than oneiric's [17:48] sorry to be so ignorant, i've been far too busy with other stuff to be able to stay on top of those things [17:49] madnick ^ [17:49] ochosi: same for me :( [17:49] I read the logs [17:49] but anyway, those are the potential changes from my side [17:49] And I found no definate answers [17:50] i guess we can run with the current info [17:50] and talk more on the next meeting [17:50] where can i check what's in alpha2? [17:50] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview [17:52] no, i mean the concrete package-versions and package-lists [17:52] hmm not sure [17:53] that page you linked to says "mouche/touchpad" instead of "mouse" [18:04] micahg: gmusicbrowser 1.1.9 released (http://gmusicbrowser.org/devel.html), last rc before the next "stable". so feel free to push it to debian and then ubuntu ;) [18:19] ochosi: ok, thanks, not happening until next week though unless alessio beats me to it [18:20] micahg: okeydokey, but it'll reach us/ubuntu before ff? [18:20] yep [18:20] coolio [18:20] ty! [18:20] I can sync before it hits testing [18:53] madnick: is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview#Xubuntu accurate? (a review by knome or yourself is still noted there) [19:12] pleia2: seems to be gone now [19:12] humh [19:12] nobody checked the meeting minutes? [19:14] knome: i did review them, but did not know what was for a2 etc [19:14] right [19:15] we didn't have a1? [19:17] im sorry i g2g i be back later tonight [19:17] ok [19:17] i'll handle this [19:21] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview/Alpha2#Xubuntu [19:27] okay, i updated the page [19:27] skaet, ^ [19:27] thanks knome [19:27] :) [19:28] np. hope to be able to deliver them more promptly in the future. that's why i've been trying to use meetingology as much as possible [19:48] woohoo, new GIMP point release [19:48] micahg, why did the discussion at #ubuntu-mozillateam stop? :P [19:49] well, I can't really fix anything in this regard, I just have ideas :) [19:49] mmh, well [19:49] i think chrisccoulson has been a bit reluctant to let it go [19:49] and I gave my idea, but Chris needs to respond [19:49] so maybe we can get a bit forward now... [19:49] well, I think he wants to avoid a thousand bug reports about a broken start page :) [19:50] hah [19:50] * micahg needs to focus on Firefox 10 ATM, we can try to drive this next week though [19:50] sure [19:50] thanks anyway [19:50] and he might respond in a bit, it's 8PM there [19:50] yup [19:52] * micahg grumbles about the svn version of abiword that was just uploaded [19:53] hmh [19:57] micahg: well, now we can't say that the maintainer is inactive ;-[ [19:57] heh, I have no problems with the Debian uploads, just a lack of restraint on the part of the Ubuntu people [19:58] * micahg thinks it's time for that e-mail to ubuntu-devel about respecting flavors [19:58] yayy [19:59] erk, I thought you were speaking of the debian upload [19:59] that's bad [19:59] and people always forget to check about packagesets anyway =] [19:59] yeah, it's been a problem off and on, some people like the latest crack not realizing that the flavor devs don't [20:29] knome: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LAJrffm6R63TIGnNBKaBpDMaAevAScIrzNw1ibBpEjI/edit?pli=1 looking good? [20:32] (getting ready to post this on our site) [20:36] worksforme [20:36] great [20:38] http://xubuntu.org/precisealpha2 [20:38] yup [20:39] oops, forgot /news/ [20:40] http://xubuntu.org/news/precisealpha2 [20:40] better [20:41] thank you <3 [20:41] now copying over to wp too [20:44] aaand tweeted [20:51] hmm [20:51] got the rss msg [20:51] but i thought with alpha 2 the new web site would be unleashed :D [20:57] skaet: I got the fridge post out too :) [20:57] pleia2, :D [21:19] baizon, not really. we have a ticket pending. the site is out whenever somebody from IS works on it [21:19] ok [21:22] * knome softly harrasses the IS folks [21:23] we just moved from queue #20 to ~queue #6 [21:24] pleia2, you think we could write a new article about the new site today? [21:24] knome: yeah, on the wordpress blog itself? [21:24] yup [21:24] exactly [21:25] I won't get to it until later (really, really need to focus on work) but I can get to it in 6 hours or so [21:25] ummh, well that's a long time from now [21:25] i'll start writing it and will let you continue with it later :) [21:26] ok :) [21:26] http://wp.xubuntu.org/news/precisealpha2/ <- bumped "updates" and "known" to headers in that page, is it better? [21:27] yes [21:27] good :) [21:30] knome: i just read: website released?! :) [21:30] but xubuntu.org still looks old'n'boring [21:30] ochosi, well, not yet! [21:30] ochosi, we're #6 in queue [21:30] ochosi, probably gets done tomorrow [21:30] so how many years from now? [21:30] ah :) [21:30] HAHA [21:31] yeah... [21:31] well, we were #20 [21:31] when? [21:31] 5 minutes ago, before i harrassed IS softly [21:32] mr_pouit, SO, when is shimmer-themes uploaded? [21:32] ochosi, did you already see the newest wallpaper draft? (#9) [21:32] ochosi, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_wall/wall-draft9.png [21:33] hm, not sure, i saw one with the bird [21:33] if that was #9 then yes [21:33] bird is in since #6 [21:34] but yeah, you probably saw the latest [21:34] jono, hey [21:34] jono, you know when you enter, there will be three lines of clientcrap? [21:34] hey knome [21:34] what does it say? [21:35] jono, well, first you join with your sbcglobal.net host, then part, then join again with cloak [21:35] can you paste this? [21:35] jono, either set a delay in joining the channels or register with the "server" pass [21:35] sure, just a sec [21:35] knome, dude, is it that big of a deal? [21:35] :-) [21:35] http://pastebin.com/fuVrgDV5 [21:36] jono, well yeah, it is actually 6 lines in a 80×24 window :/ [21:36] heh :) [21:36] jono, and that's just a stupid error and trivial to fix in most clients... [21:36] ..erm, I guess I don't the big deal :-) [21:36] how do I fix it? [21:36] jono, which client are you using? [21:36] XChat-GNOME [21:37] jono, /set irc_join_delay 3 [21:37] that should fix it [21:38] ok, will re-connect to test [21:38] hmm, try with 5 :) [21:38] Failed :P [21:38] you might have too many channels for 3sec delay [21:38] using a server password is the best solution [21:38] better? [21:38] oh dude [21:38] hang on [21:39] pleia2, can you do that for Freenode? [21:39] Or SASL (But doesn't always work for me) [21:39] jono: yeah, instead of sending a message to nickserv, you send that same password as a "server password" and it identifies you upon connect [21:39] yep [21:40] that's the best solution - i only know how to do that on irssi though ;) [21:40] And as a trick, put that password as jono:ilikedancingponies to always work with your nick [21:40] I think xchat has a spot for the server password in the connection dialog [21:40] Unit193, HOW DID YOU KNOW HIS PASSWORD!! [21:40] how do I unset the 2 second delay? [21:40] knome: Oh dear, did I put it in channel again? Sorry..... ;) [21:41] jono, /set irc_join_delay 1 :) [21:41] /set irc_join_delay 0 [21:41] oops [21:41] oknow I will set the server pass [21:41] brb, testing [21:42] YAYY [21:42] Hey! [21:42] Magic! [21:42] jono, thanks :) [21:42] better? [21:42] awesome, thanks guys [21:42] you learn a new thing every day :-) [21:42] thanks knome! :-) [21:43] heh, np [21:43] Now knome, if only I can get you to tell the rest that do that :P [21:43] it's just as annoying as awaynicks ;) [21:45] knome: How about this: *** R00T_ATI e' away (See you in another life brotha!) [21:45] hu? :P [21:46] Away messages plus the away nick [21:46] heh [21:53] knome: have you tried the wp on a single screen yet? [21:53] (with the default xfdesktop setting, dunno, i guess it's "auto") [21:53] ochosi, the idea is to cut it to two parts [21:53] ah [21:53] ochosi, so there will be no such problems :) [21:55] so which one do you wanna have as default? [21:55] i think the right one [21:57] if you can provide me with that part, i'd be happy to try it for a few days [21:58] (your current export is a bit too low-res to really use it) [22:14] ochosi, what size do you want? [22:17] ochosi, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_wall/wall-9-right.png [22:17] ochosi, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_wall/wall-9-left.png [22:29] Unit193: re: away messages; that's what /ignore is for. [22:29] astraljava: No, that's what /kb is for :D (or /knockout if you're feeling nice) [22:30] :) [22:36] * knome is excited about the new website [23:09] pleia2, http://willyou.typewith.me/p/xubuntu12newsite [23:23] knome: great, thanks, I'll take a closer look after this maintenance window (work work) [23:23] sure, np [23:27] pleia2, at some point, we might want to add the "quick links" on top of the white area :) [23:28] pleia2, with white icons and small text :) [23:28] SiDi raised a concern that the links are not really in the optimal place... [23:29] knome: didn't we move them away from being on top? [23:29] I don't care either way [23:29] pleia2, i mean, don't have to be big ones [23:29] pleia2, just for usability :) [23:29] pleia2, i have to play with that though [23:29] * pleia2 nods [23:59] micahg, mr_pouit: i know you are both busy, but... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alacarte/+bug/925801 [23:59] Ubuntu bug 925801 in alacarte (Ubuntu) "Installing alacarte installs half of GNOME" [Undecided,New]