[00:03] <ale`> hi, I just launched the update and now I cannot install kde-workspace-bin, it says it has unmet dependencies. what's going on?
[00:06] <DaskreecH> ale`: what depends is it looking for?
[00:12] <ale`> DaskreecH: http://paste.ubuntu.com/827098/
[00:20] <DaskreecH> ale`: you are installing KDE 4.8 ?
[00:22] <ale`> DaskreecH: I don't really know, I just ran the update tool ^^;
[00:22] <DaskreecH> ha ha did you try the KDE 4.8 beta ?
[00:23] <ale`> DaskreecH: no, btw, I just checked kdebase-bin and it's 4:4.7.4
[00:25] <DaskreecH> ale`: can you pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[00:25] <ale`> DaskreecH: http://paste.ubuntu.com/827110/
[00:31] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[00:31] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[00:31] <ts2> ignore the dumb bots please...
[00:32] <DaskreecH> ale`: can you tell me if <ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ > gives you anything?
[00:32] <Unit193> Heh, normally do after telling someone
[00:32] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[00:32] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[00:32] <ts2> ook, so that was my fault
[00:36] <EvilResistance> um....
[00:37] <EvilResistance> i dont see any netspluts...?
[00:37] <ts2> because there wasn't any
[00:37] <new2net> what happened here?
[00:37] <new2net> -rw------- 1 N2N new2net    5 Jan 22 01:14 :
[00:37] <new2net> -????????? ? ?     ?           ?            ? 2012.tar.bz2
[00:37] <EvilResistance> then why were the floodbots claiming so?
[00:37] <ts2> because they are broken atm
[00:38] <ale`> DaskreecH: yes, I have quite some files http://paste.ubuntu.com/827117/
[00:38] <EvilResistance> ah
[00:38] <EvilResistance> so i should be poking #ubuntu-ops :P
[00:38] <EvilResistance> saying "FIX THE FLOODBOTS IN THE WORLD!"
[00:38] <EvilResistance> they're broken in #ubuntu too
[00:39] <ts2> they are fine in #ubuntu
[00:39] <DaskreecH> ale`: can you pastebin apt-cache policy kde-workspace-bin
[00:39] <ts2> and I'm working on the ones in here
[00:39] <DaskreecH> ts2: Where is your gif of a man with shovel that says under construction? :)
[00:40] <ts2> DaskreecH: I'm currently hitting the floodbots over the head with it
[00:40] <ale`> DaskreecH: http://paste.ubuntu.com/827125/
[00:41] <ale`> DaskreecH: uhm, I see the problem, it's taking it from ppa :O
[00:41] <DaskreecH> ale`: disable that PPA then
[00:41] <DaskreecH> SOLVED!
[00:42] <ale`> :)
[00:43] <ale`> I can't even remember the reason why I added that ppa
[00:44] <ale`> ahh, I remember now, probably a gtk3 engine
[00:44] <EvilResistance> ts2, they actually broke a few days ago, there were 8 timeout quits and it still does that
[00:45] <DaskreecH> EvilResistance: long as they are fixed by tomorrow
[00:45] <ts2> EvilResistance: there's not much to be done about timeouts, they happen from time to time
[00:47] <EvilResistance> yeah, but it shouldnt trigger !netsplit for them
[00:50] <ale`> DaskreecH: I removed the ppa, and tried to install kubuntu-desktop, but it's complaining like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/827128/ . Is there a way to let it do its job (i.e. downgrading the dependencies) without too much hassle?
[00:51] <ts2> EvilResistance: the timeout has nothing to do with it triggering netsplits
[00:57] <DaskreecH> ale`: You did an apt-get update already right?
[00:58] <DoctorPepper> hi guys !!
[00:58] <DoctorPepper> is anyone running kde 4.8 on here ?
[00:58] <ale`> DaskreecH: yes :-)
[00:59] <DaskreecH> :-)
[00:59] <DaskreecH> DoctorPepper: Yes!
[00:59] <DaskreecH> Not me but someone is
[01:00] <DaskreecH> ale`: what's the apt-cache policy say for kde-workspace-bin now ?
[01:01] <ale`> DaskreecH: http://paste.ubuntu.com/827136/
[01:01] <DaskreecH> ale`: sudo apt-get install kde-workspace-bin
[01:02] <ale`> DaskreecH: http://paste.ubuntu.com/827139/
[01:03] <DaskreecH> apt-cache policy kde-workspace-data kde-workspace-kgreet-plugins
[01:03] <DoctorPepper>  i need someone help me , i have  an issue running python based plasmoid  i get follwing error when adding them to a panel or the desktop "could not create python ScriptEgine for x widget" but the work just fine if i test them with plasmoidview
[01:04] <DoctorPepper>  i mean plasmoidviewer
[01:07] <DaskreecH> DoctorPepper: you have kdeplasma-addons installed?
[01:07] <Linkmaster> Im wanting to write a research paper on the viability of FOSS/OSS being not only a good idea, but a viable replacement for the commercial OS's/programs. can anybody help point me in the right direction with something like an archive, or reputable sources?
[01:08] <DoctorPepper> no
[01:09] <DoctorPepper> but everything  was working fine  until i did an update yesterday
[01:10] <ale`> DaskreecH: http://paste.ubuntu.com/827145/
[01:10] <DaskreecH> DoctorPepper: Ah Well maybe review the update log? or run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:11] <DaskreecH> Linkmaster: What?
[01:11] <DaskreecH> ale`:  sudo apt-get remove kde-workspace-kgreet-plugins kde-workspace-data && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:12] <Linkmaster> DaskreecH: uhh..wanna write a 8-9 page research paper on how linux would be better to use then windows essentially
[01:12] <DaskreecH> Linkmaster: right. what level of research paper is this?
[01:12] <DaskreecH> I'm guessing not tertiary level?
[01:13] <Linkmaster> DaskreecH:  collegle level course
[01:13] <Linkmaster> *that is, college in highschool
[01:13] <DaskreecH> ha ha right ok may want to limit some of that to use cases
[01:13] <Linkmaster> but the teacher used to teach at the USNA, so he teaches it like a college course, and i want to get a jumpstart on the paper
[01:14] <Linkmaster> well yes, it would be for our standard homeowner(the biggest war between microsith and linux right now)
[01:14] <DaskreecH> Thats a little like saying an F1 is better to use than a Windstar
[01:14] <DaskreecH> you aren't really going to prove that to anyone in an 8 page paper. Come up with some use cases and lets go from there
[01:17] <ale`> DaskreecH: it complains about other packages in the same way... I guess finally It's easier to just manually reinstall those packages with the correct versions
[01:17] <ale`> It's incredible there is no tool that does this automatically
[01:17] <DaskreecH> ale`: wellsome were installed already Tht's what the lib/dpkg/status is
[01:18] <DaskreecH> ale`: also for some reason you have some KDE packages uninstalled completely soo not sure what happened before this but needless to say watch your PPAs more carefully
[01:18] <Linkmaster> DaskreecH: dang? still not simple enough..true, with reflection, you are correct..could you join #kubuntu-offtopic so that we dont flood the main support channel?
[01:19] <DaskreecH> Aptitude may sort some of that out :)
[01:25] <em> How do you edit the Kmenu so that you can add a category like "programming" and put programming applications in it?
[01:25] <em> so that it shows up with the other application categories
[01:26] <DaskreecH> em: Right click the menu and choose edit
[01:26] <ale`> DaskreecH: thanks for suggesting aptitude ^^; first time using it, worked great
[01:26] <Linkmaster> em: when you install programming stuff, it'll automatically do it. if not, rightclick on it, 'edit applications' and you get box to be able to edit literally everything about the menu to your desires
[01:26] <em> DaskreecH: I saw that but from that how do you set it to show up or not?
[01:27] <DaskreecH> If there is a program in there it will show up if there isn't a program then it doesn't
[01:27] <em> there is a catgegory in there called 'education' but no applications show up in the menu or that
[01:27] <em> "education" doesn't show up.
[01:28] <em> It just starts with "Games"
[01:28] <DaskreecH> If there are no applications under education then the education category will not show up
[01:28] <Linkmaster> ^ as he said, you have to specifically install something through muon(or whatever you use), or add it manually
[01:28] <em> Oh i thought those were applications, I guess they are just subcategories
[01:29] <em> Is there a most logical  place to put a 'programming langauges" category?
[01:29] <DaskreecH> Well I would hope a programming language does not turn up in your menu
[01:29] <Linkmaster> em: the biggest advantage about the menu editor is that you can change it to what suits *you*
[01:31] <em> DaskreecH: I mean like IDEs and programming tools, enviroments etc.
[01:31] <DaskreecH> em: that would be under as development category I think
[01:32] <Linkmaster> em: put them where you want (: but the system normally picks development, as he ^^ said
[01:34] <em> Is there a way to give a new item an icon?
[01:36] <DaskreecH> em: Click the icon button in the Menu and choose a new picture
[01:45] <em> The icon button?
[01:46] <DaskreecH> em: In the edit menu
[01:49] <em> oh thank you.
[01:49] <DaskreecH> You are welcome
[02:14] <Roge152> I think there is a problem with some of the repos, im maxing out under 100KB/sec on average around 30KB
[02:15] <zorobabel> if I lock a package version in Muon will it be updated using apt-get upgrade?
[03:19] <needhelp23323> hey everyone
[03:20] <needhelp23323> im having problem installing openssh-server
[03:21] <Unit193> !crosspost | needhelp23323
[05:30] <whiteheat> hi, anybody had issues installing oneiric? Works fine from live CD, then install, then reboot, then wont start X as it cant find driver for nvidia
[05:57] <Vako> hey pepps
[05:57] <Vako> does the font and size of the webpages when using kubuntu, depend on the resolution of the video card?
[05:58] <Kimlaroux> it depends on the resolution your screen is set at
[05:58] <Kimlaroux> since fonts are fixed size relative to the number of pixels, the more pixels you have per square inch, the smaller the font is
[05:59] <Vako> or is there a way to make the font bigger to be able to READ what it says?
[05:59] <Vako> darnn :(
[05:59] <Vako> guess i cant hae it at 1680x1050 :(
[05:59] <Vako> letters are too small
[05:59] <Kimlaroux> of course
[06:00] <Kimlaroux> just press on Ctrl then roll you mouse wheel forward
[06:00] <Kimlaroux> your*
[06:00] <Vako> laptop
[06:00] <Kimlaroux> Ctrl then + then
[06:00] <Kimlaroux> Using Firefox or Chromium?
[06:01] <Vako> fox
[06:01] <Kimlaroux> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/nosquint/
[06:01] <Vako> sucks that way cuz the screen then goes out of proportion
[06:01] <Vako> guess id have to fix the resolution
[06:02] <Kimlaroux> not with nosquint, it keeps the proportion
[06:02] <Kimlaroux> it zooms the whole page, even pictures
[06:02] <Vako> ohh ill try that
[06:03] <Kimlaroux> I just set it at something like 115% globally
[06:05] <Kimlaroux> yeah you better keep your screen on it's native resolution, it's way better that way
[06:13] <Vako> that just made my morning.. 1:00am here hehe
[06:13] <Vako> thanks a lot Kimlaroux
[07:31] <arlen89> is there a good instruction guide for removing xubuntu from a dual boot of kubuntu and xubuntu?
[07:34] <orated> !samba
[08:15] <Torch> arlen89: delete the xubuntu partition from the kubuntu install and run grub, i guess.
[08:23] <arlen89> Torch: I found a tutorial on how grub2 works that looks promising. Thank you for the advice, though.  :) I didnt want to just go and delete an entire os without understanding the consequences.
[10:22] <Judge> Hi There :)
[10:22] <Judge> I very much like the new installer in kubuntu - congrats to whoever build that! :)
[10:23] <Judge> Ist that an anaconda?
[10:36] <xanax`> hello
[11:14] <ALS-IT-NET-PC> send you all message.......
[11:14] <bazhang> ALS-IT-NET-PC, kubuntu support issue?
[11:14] <ALS-IT-NET-PC> good bye......
[11:25] <SIQKO> i am using this plasma desktop i am not satisfied at all
[11:25] <SIQKO> it just keeps crashing
[11:25] <SIQKO> it is really anoying
[11:31] <Promethes> how to store smb password in dolphin?
[11:31] <Promethes> i keep checking option for remembering password, but after system restart, dolphin asking for password again
[11:38] <jubo2> I cannot get a c with a cedilla with any key combination. how can I modify the keymapping map thingies so that I canhave a c with a cedilla ?
[11:39] <jubo2> like ç
[11:40] <jubo2> who / where should I bitch about this to have a linux system that can be used to write french ..?
-c does a normal 'c' so there is room to have a key combination make an 'ç' ...
[11:51] <jubo2> where / which file(s) I need to mess around to have a kbrd that can be used to write French..?
[12:01]  * jubo2 needs guru help
[12:03] <ikonia> best to just ask the question
[12:04] <jubo2> how can I have keyboard mapping.. say <Alt>-c make me a 'c' with a cedilla like this: 'ç' ..?
[12:04] <jubo2> <Alt gr>-c gives '©'
[12:04] <jubo2> Why is it not like in Windows and OS X ?
[12:04] <ikonia> no idea
[12:23] <asfyxia> jubo 2, somehow you managed to get a 'c with cedilla' twice here ;-) but maybe you have something with this: http://fixunix.com/slackware/125093-typing-french-accents-kmail.html
[12:30] <Raging_Hog> can I get klauncher to show "Run command <whatever I typed in>"  first in its suggestions?
[12:43] <Walex4> jubo2: there are lots of HOWTOs on that. Also with KDE you can set the regional parameters and you will have no issues
[12:44] <Walex4> jubo2: as to getting french characters without a french keyboard, look for the COMPOSE key and for GROUP SHIFT or LEVEL3
[13:41] <Renato_> Hello, trying to figure out why when I click (as in press and release) my button over the border of Chromium, the Kubuntu tries to move it and end up resizing it, anyone have experienced this? (something to do with KDE, as LFCE didn't  do the same behavior)
[14:00] <abvayad> Hi
[14:33] <bhadotia> hi! I need some ideas on what printer to buy
[14:34] <bhadotia> I've never had one and am thinking about buying one
[14:35] <bhadotia> but I've heard they are a real pain to maintain
[15:17] <genni> salve
[15:17] <genni> !list
[15:17] <genni> !list
[15:51] <em> The icons in the K-menu, are those just gifs or what? How could I add or make one for a custom menu choice or item?
[16:13] <em> Are the icons that show up in the Kickoff menu just .svg files? Like could i make my own icons with inkscape or...?
[16:17] <asfyxia> em: with System Settings you can customize you startup-menu. Also, when you right-click on an icon, you can add it to a panel.
[17:05] <hexacode> anyone know where i can find my network connection in Kate?   what i mean by this is, i used places>Connect to server, and i connected via sftp to a server. i can now browse its folders and edit them; however, im in my text editor kate and i dont know what folder that sftp location is in
[17:07] <metralha761> amarok can't play mp3
[17:11] <ubuntu> привет
[17:12] <maco> !ru
[17:45] <DarthFrog> !medibuntu | metralha761
[17:46] <DarthFrog> metralha761: Install the  non-free codecs package from Medibuntu.
[17:47] <metralha761> I activated multiverse and universe in repository, is this?
[17:55] <DarthFrog> Nope.
[18:03] <afief> Does anybody else experience the notification area taking up around 80% of the task bar at times?
[18:03] <DarthFrog> Nope.
[18:05] <afief> DarthFrog: any idea how I'd write a bug report about something like this? a screenshoft alone won't do I guess
[18:09] <DarthFrog> !bug | afief
[18:12] <metralha761> anyone know how to configure the Brightness? I have only two intesity plus black
[18:20] <ct529> hi there!
[18:20] <ct529> I would like to reset the graphics of kde, without removing .kde, because I haev emails and address books in .kde
[18:20] <ct529> do you know how to do it?
[18:22] <metralha761> email and address books dont have anything about kde
[18:26] <ct529> metralha761: what? they are definitively in .kde (the directory)
[18:27] <ct529> metralha761: so you cannot REMOVE .kde to reset
[18:27] <ct529> metralha761: because you end up removing emails and address book
[18:28] <metralha761> what client you use?
[18:28] <ct529> metralha761: kontact (kmail + kaddressbook), of course
[18:29] <ct529> I think we should separate formatting from content in kde
[18:30] <metralha761> and you checked if delete that? some time don't remove configurations and personal data
[18:32] <ct529> metralha761: in what sense? they are in the directory, if you cancel the directory you cancel them.
[18:34] <metralha761> the info are in your home directory
[18:35] <ct529> metralha761: what info?
[18:35] <ct529> I am wondering whether the original defaults for kde4 in kubuntu are in
[18:35] <ct529>  for example: /usr/share/desktop-base/profiles/kde-profile/share/config/
[18:36] <ct529> or for example: /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/config/
[18:37] <qbit> I've never tried it but have noticed in most screens in systemsettings down in the lower left corner at the bottom next to the Help button is a Defaults button
[18:38] <ct529> qbit: I have tried, no difference
[18:39] <qbit> OK - was never quite sure what that button did, I always thought it was supposed to reset stuff back
[18:39] <metralha761> did you reset?
[18:41] <ct529> qbit: yes, me too, do not know why it does not work
[18:57] <ct529> metralha761: no, it does not seem feasible
[19:12] <em> asfyxia: yeah but i mean, in the kickoff menu itself. If you add an item it won't have an icon. Can you make one for it, is it just an .svg image you can browse to and add?
[19:23] <em> which directory does KDE store all of the images for the icons in the menu?
[19:50] <DarthFrog> em: Try /usr/share/icons
[21:10] <FloodBotK3> !netsplit
[21:14] <SJr> Whats the command to change the theme of gtk applications?
[21:22] <szal> !sudo
[21:30] <FloodBotK3> !netsplit
[21:32] <EvilResistance> the floodbots are still broken :/
[22:13] <IIVQ> Hello, anyone who can help me install flash (preferrably 11) on my amd_64 box?
[22:14] <IIVQ> I had flash 10, then appearently flash 11
[22:14] <IIVQ> but FF didn't recognize it
[22:15] <IIVQ> then I tried some tricks, but now I have no flash at all. apt-get install flashplugin-installer ends with an error
[22:29] <IIVQ> ok wtf. it works. The order of installing packages matters...
[23:22] <DoctorPepper> hi guys !!
[23:34] <em> I used a custom .png for the icons in kickoff and then i moved the .png that was in my ~ to a different directory and kickoff still finds the image. How can that be?
[23:34] <em> does kickoff make a copy of the image for itself?