[00:00] <zzecool> lol
[00:01] <zzecool> Actually precise feel more stable and HELL ALOT  faster than oneiric
[00:01] <zzecool> all this using unity
[00:02] <zzecool> There is a huge improvement on Unity  , faster smoother  more features etc
[00:02] <GTRsdk> wait 2 months and see what it is like
[00:02] <zzecool> im allrdy running precise
[00:03] <zzecool> so i didnt wait :)
[00:03] <zzecool> But im stuck to alpha 1 cause this update problem
[00:03] <zzecool> probably by tommorow it gonna be fixed
[00:03] <zzecool> :)
[00:03] <zzecool> and a normal update will push me to alpha 2 +
[00:06] <zzecool> i feel confident cause even Mark Shuttleworth  said that he upgraded he main laptop to precise :)     So thing must Go fine or they will have to fight with him lol  ;p
[00:06] <zzecool> his*
[00:06] <zzecool> things*
[00:06] <zzecool> ohh evil typos ;p
[00:17] <FernandoMiguel> nite folks
[01:16] <fishscene> I'd like to set up an LTSP server for my environment here. In the past, I had a server (10.04LTS) and I found a package that allowed me to customize the profile (desktop icons, launchers, desktop background, etc..) for new users who logged in. I have since forgotten the name of this package, but I was wondering if 12.04 would include a tool such as that.
[01:16] <fishscene> That ability is critical for me to successfully set up the server.
[01:54] <blizzow> Anyone here now how to make ubuntu boot faster without using a DHCP address?
[02:00] <histo> blizzow: that should not have anything to do with boot speed
[02:00] <blizzow> I mean without forcing a static IP address.
[02:01] <histo> blizzow: don't have it configure the network then
[02:01] <blizzow> I keep getting this message saying it's waiting for the network configuration to boot, and then another that says waiting another 60 seconds to boot.  It pretty much negates having a fast booting ssd.
[02:01] <blizzow> I don't want to have to config the network everytime I log in.
[02:02] <blizzow> I just want the DHCP address to come a little later.
[02:02] <blizzow> Without holding the whole laptop up.
[02:03] <histo> blizzow: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[02:08] <blizzow> precise
[04:01] <Thermionix> Just trying out 12.04 server alpha 2 - Upon boot terminal tty7 is just showing a flashing cursor. I can ctrl alt <X> to change to different terminal and login, ssh login also works fine. Whats going on with tty7?
[04:03] <pangolin> try 8
[04:11] <Thermionix> tty1-6 work, was just wondering if anyone knew anything about it
[04:13] <GTRsdk> I think tty7 is supposed to be where the GUI stuff is supposed to be
[04:13] <trism> Thermionix: if it is ubuntu server, there should only be 1-6, started by /etc/init/tty[1-6].conf
[04:13] <snadge> anyone know how to disable lightdm from running pulseaudio for a specific session?
[04:14] <Thermionix> is booting to tty7 with only ssh added to server :/
[04:14] <snadge> it interferes with the audio latency when running xbmc.. i had a dedicated xbmc login from my lightdm menu
[04:14] <snadge> but i would like to continue to use pulseaudio when logging in to a normal session
[04:14] <trism> Thermionix: oh, it is booting to tty7, don't know then
[04:17] <snadge> i dont know enough about how xsessions and pulseaudio works :/
[04:19] <snadge> theres no lightdm channel either :|
[07:14] <psypher246> o all
[07:14] <psypher246> hello all
[07:14] <psypher246> anyone here using thunderbird?
[07:16] <GTRsdk> is it broken?
[07:17] <psypher246> in a way, since the latest updates the font colour choice is so bad you cant read the menu buttons or any of the open emails in open tabs
[07:17] <psypher246> so i would like to know if thats just me or anyone else so I can log a bug
[07:20] <psypher246> GTRsdk: do you have the issue? is the getmail, write, address book and tag font colour a really similar grey that then menu and unity panel colour?
[07:23] <Ben64> a lot of the theming is all wonky
[07:25] <psypher246> ok so it's a known issue?
[07:29] <Ben64> i know about it, but i don't matter
[07:29] <GTRsdk> woah... I don't use my Ubuntu computers for Thunderbird, but that's pretty bad. Not to say that I haven't in the past and have had issues with it, but it was mostly printing and enigmail
[07:30] <Ben64> most of the themes for me have unreadable menus and stuff
[07:30] <Ben64> only one that works is way way too orange :(
[07:30] <Ben64> its all non-customizable too
[07:30] <psypher246> Ben64: do u know if there is a bug logged for it?
[07:30] <Ben64> dunno
[07:30] <Ben64> doesn't seem like a bug as much as a bad design
[07:31] <GTRsdk> at least it feels like the good old times of 9.04... but wait it shouldn't do that, shoudl it?
[07:31] <Ben64> i'm on 10.04 on my main computer, and I can adjust the colors of any element easily
[07:31] <Ben64> 12.04 has went backwards in that respect
[07:33] <Ben64> http://www.ben64.com/custom1004.jpg
[08:28] <iceroot> remove-all-packages fixed?
[08:37] <TheYsNoi> has someone here tested the alpha 2 release?
[09:19] <Fudge> oh its out now is it
[10:36] <xanax`> hello
[10:42] <tegra> hi
[10:52] <tegra> alpha 2 using kernel 3.2.0 not kernel 3.2.2
[10:52] <tegra> :(
[11:24] <nanobolic_> just upgrading to alpha 2 is there anything that really needs testing off the top of anyones head?
[11:28] <ikonia> read the bug reports
[12:09] <Daekdroom> It took me a little time to notice that right-click menus are now white in Ambiance.
[12:11] <jokerdino> Daekdroom: yeah i noticed it too.
[12:12] <jokerdino> it is kinda weight.
[12:12] <jokerdino> *weird not weight. (not sure what i was thinking when i typed that one)
[14:19] <rigved> hi everyone. i am running precise with the latest updates. after the last update, unity 3d was removed (after i did apt-get autoremove and it removed ubuntu-desktop). now i only have gnome 3, classic and unity 2d.
[14:20] <rigved> to get back unity 3d, what do i need to install?
[14:20] <rigved> ubuntu-desktop package or something else?
[14:21] <rigved> i am getting an error when i try to install ubuntu-desktop. it says that it depends on unity but it is not going to be installed.
[14:23] <rigved> i am guessing that i have partial updates installed. i mean, i must have updated before all the required dependencies had been updated in the archives. is this correct? i like unity 3d and i want it, though gnome 3 is also passable.
[15:27] <zzecool> hggdh: Everything fixed in The Repositories :)  Update went smooth
[15:31] <jcook_5xdata> I did a update today and after a reboot both my monitor have a dock. anyone else have this?
[15:33] <Daekdroom> jcook_5xdata, Unity was changed for multimonitor setups
[15:34] <jcook_5xdata> yuk I hope they do not keep like that. I can see the thought behind it, but it make it hard to work
[15:41] <jcook_5xdata> my mouse get stuck move to other screen
[15:42] <Daekdroom> jcook_5xdata, it's intentional
[15:43] <Daekdroom> and you can change the pressure necessary to reveal the launcher or to go to another screen in CCSM
[15:45] <e01> hello
[15:46] <e01> is it possible to get unity in pangolin to have such window list in unity launcher https://launchpadlibrarian.net/90787502/window-list.png
[15:58] <rocky> hrm i don't think i like the new unity launcher behaviour
[15:58] <rocky> is there anyway to configure it?
[15:58] <Stanley00> rocky: which one you dont like?
[16:00] <Stanley00> e01: if you want to go through windows of one app, you can use "ALT + `" ;)
[16:01] <rocky> Stanley00, well... the fact that i have to push against the side of my screen with my mouse cursor for like 2sec before the launcher appears (when i have a fullscreen window open)
[16:01] <Stanley00> e01: or simply click on the icon on the launchrt :D
[16:01] <rocky> plus... i have a dual monitor setup... and now the launcher is showing up on my second screen and it prevents me from going to my left screen (unless i move my mouse really fast)
[16:01] <e01> Stanley00: but is this implemented on pangolin or this screenshot is fake
[16:01] <rocky> preferably, the launcher on my second screen would show up on the right side
[16:02] <Stanley00> e01: I think it's some kinds of mock-up
[16:03] <e01> :(
[16:04] <Stanley00> rocky: hmm, I dont think it would be on the right side, the launcher will be on the left side for ever, I'm afraid.
[16:04] <Stanley00> rocky: why dont you set the launcher only on one screen?
[16:04] <rocky> Stanley00, i know that gnome is mostly less-config-is-better but this is one instance where the launcher really should be configurable
[16:05] <e01> so i was on way to give another try to unity but still unusable for me :(
[16:05] <rocky> Stanley00, how?
[16:06] <Stanley00> rocky: By display setting in control center
[16:06] <rocky> and there really shouldn't be any resistance with the mouse cursor when i move from my right screen to the left
[16:06] <Stanley00> rocky: yep
[16:07] <Stanley00> rocky: I used AMD control center to set that, not sure about dislay setting.
[16:07] <rocky> display setting in control panel only shows me my screens i have configured, there's no launcher setting there
[16:08] <rocky> this is an intel graphics chip
[16:09] <rocky> heh, alt-tab is showing me a duplicate of every chrome window i have open
[16:09] <Stanley00> rocky: hmm, just a min, I need to search something ;)
[16:10] <jcook_5xdata> Stanley00, I have the same problem as rocky. Intel GPU I do not see any option for that ether
[16:12] <rocky> lol the launcher is throwing a fit, it thinks i have two instances of every app running
[16:12] <rocky> probably because i have two launchers
[16:13] <jcook_5xdata> I really hope the create a option to turn off the second launcher or Ubuntu tweak does
[16:14] <Stanley00> hmm, it looks like we have to edit xorg.conf to use that option :-s
[16:20] <jcook_5xdata> Stanley00, you have a link?
[16:20] <Stanley00> rocky, jcook_5xdata: did you try Xinerama? it's said can use multi screen as a big one?
[16:21] <Stanley00> last post of this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1457931 says so
[16:21] <rocky> well i'm using standard gnome display configuration to make my two screens one big one
[16:22] <Stanley00> rocky: then it still shows up the launcher on the second screen?
[16:22] <rocky> yes
[16:23] <rocky> after using the new changes for the past 30min the current behaviour is terrible... i guess that's what i get for running an alpha ;)
[16:23] <jcook_5xdata> same here
[16:23] <rocky> it's ok... i get my ssd within the next few days and will just go back to oneric until beta ;)
[16:23] <Stanley00> rocky: I dont think it set as a big one monitor.
[16:24] <rocky> the reason i updated to precise is because i'm running a new laptop and i have to do kernel settings and such (that i was hoping was fixed with precise) to even boot up properly
[16:24] <rocky> Stanley00, if it weren't set to one big monitor i wouldn't be able to move windows from one display to the other
[16:24] <jcook_5xdata> Stanley00, I know mine is. It was fine till the update today
[16:26] <rocky> yeah what jcook_5xdata said
[16:26] <rocky> and i still have the problem of no audio :(
[16:26] <rocky> ever since upgrade to precise
[16:27] <jcook_5xdata> also I notice this i unity-team ppa I removed it because of this problem. They most of merge it last night. ooohhh well I guess I move to gnome till ubuntu tweak has an option
[16:28] <jcook_5xdata> does it show your sound card?
[16:28] <Stanley00> well, I must go now... bye bye
[16:29] <urlin2u> jcook_5xdata, I dount ubuntu tweak will have that, ubnity is a compiz plugin.
[16:29] <urlin2u> unity
[16:30] <jcook_5xdata> tweaks does do some stuff with compiz plugin
[16:30] <jcook_5xdata> or there alway CCMS
[16:31] <urlin2u> jcook_5xdata, yes and it may do what you want but I wouldn't hold your breath, but somebody or canonical will have a workaround.
[16:31] <urlin2u> keep a eye on the web for a fix is whatI would do.
[16:32] <rocky> jcook_5xdata, no... i've been goolging and a few people are reporting the same issue... what's happening is that in sound settings it's showing my hdmi output (which i don't use) but doesn't show my standard laptop speakers/audio
[16:32] <urlin2u> fix, hack you know. :)
[16:32] <jcook_5xdata> Yea i think your right. no biggie I like Unity over Gnome. I try this new thing if I cant stand move to gnome till the work around hits
[16:33] <jcook_5xdata> OMG or web8 will have something in a few days I am sure
[16:33] <urlin2u> rocky, distro upgrades can be problematic, especially to a development, personally I never go this route there are faster easier methods to upgrade and have all your stuff.
[16:34] <jcook_5xdata> or there alway KDE lol
[16:34] <urlin2u> jcook_5xdata, I was thinking of those two yeah.
[16:45] <rocky> urlin2u, yeah i was hoping precise would get more of my new hardware working but instead it got less lol ... so i'll probably be switching back on the weekend
[16:47] <urlin2u> rocky, to bad you can clone your OS so in the future you have an image clonezilla.org
[16:47] <rocky> urlin2u, yeah someone showed that to me right after i upgraded lol
[16:48] <rocky> but as i said here earlier, i have a new ssd coming and intended on reinstalling anyways
[16:48] <urlin2u> best thing since sliced bread.
[18:41] <blair> there's a typo in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview/Alpha2 for the bug ID for "Some systems with nVidia hardware are seeing a kernel NULL pointer dereference"
[18:42] <blair> lists bug ID 92440, but that's from 2007
[18:55] <cousin_luigi> Greetings
[18:55] <cousin_luigi> Are there known problems with Precise on Virtualbox?
[19:58] <FernandoMiguel> evening
[19:58] <FernandoMiguel> I told you
[19:59] <FernandoMiguel> no updates on fridays
[19:59] <FernandoMiguel> I seem to have lost themes
[20:01] <Daekdroom> It seems to me that I always dislike any changes made to Ambiance/Radiance.
[20:03] <FernandoMiguel> everyone does
[20:03] <FernandoMiguel> and we can't even change settings
[20:45] <zzecool> I found a bug that relies on a main lib  "libgtk-3-0"   and i dont know how to report this one on launchpad
[20:45] <zzecool> any help would be appreciated
[20:47] <nanobolic> is there a channel for the ubuntu hud? or unity team?
[20:47] <zzecool> i think there is for unity
[20:47] <zzecool> sec
[20:48] <zzecool> unity3d has the most users
[20:48] <zzecool> 179 users right now
[20:48] <nanobolic> zzecool, so #unity3d
[20:48] <zzecool>  join #unity3d
[20:48] <zzecool> yes
[20:49] <zzecool> you may find help
[20:49] <nanobolic> zzecool, that mate
[20:49] <zzecool> im looking for help here too
[20:49] <zzecool> :)
[20:49] <zzecool> npo
[20:49] <zzecool> np
[21:08] <nhaines> nanobolic, zzecool try #ubuntu-unity
[22:40] <blair> an incorrect bug ID is listed in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview/Alpha2 for "Some systems with nVidia hardware are seeing a kernel NULL pointer dereference"; s bug ID 92440, but that's from 2007
[22:44] <trism> blair: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/924400 seems to just be missing a 0
[22:45] <blair> trism, thanks, but how to let someone know to fix it
[22:48] <astraljava> blair: Fixed. In the future, you can do it yourself, it's a wiki after all.
[22:48] <blair> astraljava, right, the thought should have occurred to me (doh)
[22:49] <astraljava> :)
[22:49] <blair> figured it was an official release document
[22:49] <astraljava> Official or not, mistakes can happen.
[22:50] <astraljava> The relevant people are notified of the changes anyway, so they could fix it back if it was erroneous.
[23:36] <rocky> any fixes been done to the launcher since the updates this morning?
[23:36] <rocky> launcher stuff is driving me nuts
[23:48] <zzecool> rocky: what do you mean ?
[23:48] <zzecool> rocky: describe me your problem
[23:49] <rocky> well last update i did forces another launcher onto my second display ... and there is a heavy resistance when i try moving my mouse cursor from my right display to my left display (they're acting as one big screen as setup by the standard gnome display settings)
[23:49] <rocky> i wouldn't mind the second launcher *if* it were on the right of my right screen
[23:49] <rocky> but having it on the left of my right screen is just irritating
[23:49] <zzecool> yes
[23:49] <zzecool> this is gonna be permanent
[23:49] <zzecool> its their new multimonitor support
[23:50] <zzecool> about reistance
[23:50] <zzecool> i can help you
[23:50] <zzecool> resistance*
[23:50] <zzecool> to you have CCSM installed
[23:50] <zzecool> ?
[23:50] <zzecool> do*
[23:50] <zzecool> ?
[23:51] <zzecool> rocky:  ?
[23:53] <rocky> sorry no, what's ccsm?
[23:53] <zzecool> its the compizconfig-settings-manager
[23:53] <rocky> oh ok
[23:53] <zzecool> a tool that can config all the compiz plugins
[23:53] <zzecool> do you have any experience with this ?
[23:54] <rocky> yeah a little
[23:54] <rocky> installed it on other desktops a while back
[23:54] <zzecool> nice
[23:54] <zzecool> open it up
[23:54] <zzecool> and go to the unity plugin
[23:54] <zzecool> type unity on the search box if you want to be faster :)
[23:55] <zzecool> Tell me when you rdy
[23:55] <rocky> ready
[23:55] <zzecool> nice
[23:55] <zzecool> go to the 3rd tab called experimental
[23:56] <rocky> the tabs on the left you mean? i'm not seeing an experimental one
[23:57] <zzecool> are you on the unitu plugin ?
[23:57] <zzecool> unity*
[23:57] <zzecool> on the left are the categories we dont care we need them all
[23:58] <rocky> i just installed ccsm and ran it, i don't see anything about unity or experimental
[23:58] <zzecool> do you se on the top left   a search box with the title filter?
[23:58] <rocky> yep
[23:58] <zzecool> type uni
[23:58] <zzecool> in there or unity
[23:59] <rocky> got it
[23:59] <zzecool> this is just a filter for the plugins on the right side
[23:59] <zzecool> ok
[23:59] <zzecool> open unity plugin
[23:59] <rocky> yep i'm on it, and i'm on the experimental tab
[23:59] <zzecool> ok