| zzecool | lol | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| zzecool | Actually precise feel more stable and HELL ALOT faster than oneiric | 00:01 |
| zzecool | all this using unity | 00:01 |
| zzecool | There is a huge improvement on Unity , faster smoother more features etc | 00:02 |
| GTRsdk | wait 2 months and see what it is like | 00:02 |
| zzecool | im allrdy running precise | 00:02 |
| zzecool | so i didnt wait :) | 00:03 |
| zzecool | But im stuck to alpha 1 cause this update problem | 00:03 |
| zzecool | probably by tommorow it gonna be fixed | 00:03 |
| zzecool | :) | 00:03 |
| zzecool | and a normal update will push me to alpha 2 + | 00:03 |
| zzecool | i feel confident cause even Mark Shuttleworth said that he upgraded he main laptop to precise :) So thing must Go fine or they will have to fight with him lol ;p | 00:06 |
| zzecool | his* | 00:06 |
| zzecool | things* | 00:06 |
| zzecool | ohh evil typos ;p | 00:06 |
| FernandoMiguel | nite folks | 00:17 |
| === Guest17677 is now known as jrgifford | ||
| fishscene | I'd like to set up an LTSP server for my environment here. In the past, I had a server (10.04LTS) and I found a package that allowed me to customize the profile (desktop icons, launchers, desktop background, etc..) for new users who logged in. I have since forgotten the name of this package, but I was wondering if 12.04 would include a tool such as that. | 01:16 |
| fishscene | That ability is critical for me to successfully set up the server. | 01:16 |
| blizzow | Anyone here now how to make ubuntu boot faster without using a DHCP address? | 01:54 |
| histo | blizzow: that should not have anything to do with boot speed | 02:00 |
| blizzow | I mean without forcing a static IP address. | 02:00 |
| histo | blizzow: don't have it configure the network then | 02:01 |
| blizzow | I keep getting this message saying it's waiting for the network configuration to boot, and then another that says waiting another 60 seconds to boot. It pretty much negates having a fast booting ssd. | 02:01 |
| blizzow | I don't want to have to config the network everytime I log in. | 02:01 |
| blizzow | I just want the DHCP address to come a little later. | 02:02 |
| blizzow | Without holding the whole laptop up. | 02:02 |
| histo | blizzow: what version of ubuntu are you using? | 02:03 |
| blizzow | precise | 02:08 |
| Thermionix | Just trying out 12.04 server alpha 2 - Upon boot terminal tty7 is just showing a flashing cursor. I can ctrl alt <X> to change to different terminal and login, ssh login also works fine. Whats going on with tty7? | 04:01 |
| pangolin | try 8 | 04:03 |
| Thermionix | tty1-6 work, was just wondering if anyone knew anything about it | 04:11 |
| GTRsdk | I think tty7 is supposed to be where the GUI stuff is supposed to be | 04:13 |
| trism | Thermionix: if it is ubuntu server, there should only be 1-6, started by /etc/init/tty[1-6].conf | 04:13 |
| snadge | anyone know how to disable lightdm from running pulseaudio for a specific session? | 04:13 |
| Thermionix | is booting to tty7 with only ssh added to server :/ | 04:14 |
| snadge | it interferes with the audio latency when running xbmc.. i had a dedicated xbmc login from my lightdm menu | 04:14 |
| snadge | but i would like to continue to use pulseaudio when logging in to a normal session | 04:14 |
| trism | Thermionix: oh, it is booting to tty7, don't know then | 04:14 |
| snadge | i dont know enough about how xsessions and pulseaudio works :/ | 04:17 |
| snadge | theres no lightdm channel either :| | 04:19 |
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| psypher246 | o all | 07:14 |
| psypher246 | hello all | 07:14 |
| psypher246 | anyone here using thunderbird? | 07:14 |
| GTRsdk | is it broken? | 07:16 |
| psypher246 | in a way, since the latest updates the font colour choice is so bad you cant read the menu buttons or any of the open emails in open tabs | 07:17 |
| psypher246 | so i would like to know if thats just me or anyone else so I can log a bug | 07:17 |
| psypher246 | GTRsdk: do you have the issue? is the getmail, write, address book and tag font colour a really similar grey that then menu and unity panel colour? | 07:20 |
| Ben64 | a lot of the theming is all wonky | 07:23 |
| psypher246 | ok so it's a known issue? | 07:25 |
| Ben64 | i know about it, but i don't matter | 07:29 |
| GTRsdk | woah... I don't use my Ubuntu computers for Thunderbird, but that's pretty bad. Not to say that I haven't in the past and have had issues with it, but it was mostly printing and enigmail | 07:29 |
| Ben64 | most of the themes for me have unreadable menus and stuff | 07:30 |
| Ben64 | only one that works is way way too orange :( | 07:30 |
| Ben64 | its all non-customizable too | 07:30 |
| psypher246 | Ben64: do u know if there is a bug logged for it? | 07:30 |
| Ben64 | dunno | 07:30 |
| Ben64 | doesn't seem like a bug as much as a bad design | 07:30 |
| GTRsdk | at least it feels like the good old times of 9.04... but wait it shouldn't do that, shoudl it? | 07:31 |
| Ben64 | i'm on 10.04 on my main computer, and I can adjust the colors of any element easily | 07:31 |
| Ben64 | 12.04 has went backwards in that respect | 07:31 |
| Ben64 | http://www.ben64.com/custom1004.jpg | 07:33 |
| iceroot | remove-all-packages fixed? | 08:28 |
| TheYsNoi | has someone here tested the alpha 2 release? | 08:37 |
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| Fudge | oh its out now is it | 09:19 |
| xanax` | hello | 10:36 |
| tegra | hi | 10:42 |
| tegra | alpha 2 using kernel 3.2.0 not kernel 3.2.2 | 10:52 |
| tegra | :( | 10:52 |
| nanobolic_ | just upgrading to alpha 2 is there anything that really needs testing off the top of anyones head? | 11:24 |
| ikonia | read the bug reports | 11:28 |
| Daekdroom | It took me a little time to notice that right-click menus are now white in Ambiance. | 12:09 |
| jokerdino | Daekdroom: yeah i noticed it too. | 12:11 |
| jokerdino | it is kinda weight. | 12:12 |
| jokerdino | *weird not weight. (not sure what i was thinking when i typed that one) | 12:12 |
| rigved | hi everyone. i am running precise with the latest updates. after the last update, unity 3d was removed (after i did apt-get autoremove and it removed ubuntu-desktop). now i only have gnome 3, classic and unity 2d. | 14:19 |
| rigved | to get back unity 3d, what do i need to install? | 14:20 |
| rigved | ubuntu-desktop package or something else? | 14:20 |
| rigved | i am getting an error when i try to install ubuntu-desktop. it says that it depends on unity but it is not going to be installed. | 14:21 |
| rigved | i am guessing that i have partial updates installed. i mean, i must have updated before all the required dependencies had been updated in the archives. is this correct? i like unity 3d and i want it, though gnome 3 is also passable. | 14:23 |
| zzecool | hggdh: Everything fixed in The Repositories :) Update went smooth | 15:27 |
| jcook_5xdata | I did a update today and after a reboot both my monitor have a dock. anyone else have this? | 15:31 |
| Daekdroom | jcook_5xdata, Unity was changed for multimonitor setups | 15:33 |
| jcook_5xdata | yuk I hope they do not keep like that. I can see the thought behind it, but it make it hard to work | 15:34 |
| jcook_5xdata | my mouse get stuck move to other screen | 15:41 |
| Daekdroom | jcook_5xdata, it's intentional | 15:42 |
| Daekdroom | and you can change the pressure necessary to reveal the launcher or to go to another screen in CCSM | 15:43 |
| e01 | hello | 15:45 |
| e01 | is it possible to get unity in pangolin to have such window list in unity launcher https://launchpadlibrarian.net/90787502/window-list.png | 15:46 |
| rocky | hrm i don't think i like the new unity launcher behaviour | 15:58 |
| rocky | is there anyway to configure it? | 15:58 |
| Stanley00 | rocky: which one you dont like? | 15:58 |
| Stanley00 | e01: if you want to go through windows of one app, you can use "ALT + `" ;) | 16:00 |
| rocky | Stanley00, well... the fact that i have to push against the side of my screen with my mouse cursor for like 2sec before the launcher appears (when i have a fullscreen window open) | 16:01 |
| Stanley00 | e01: or simply click on the icon on the launchrt :D | 16:01 |
| rocky | plus... i have a dual monitor setup... and now the launcher is showing up on my second screen and it prevents me from going to my left screen (unless i move my mouse really fast) | 16:01 |
| e01 | Stanley00: but is this implemented on pangolin or this screenshot is fake | 16:01 |
| rocky | preferably, the launcher on my second screen would show up on the right side | 16:01 |
| Stanley00 | e01: I think it's some kinds of mock-up | 16:02 |
| e01 | :( | 16:03 |
| Stanley00 | rocky: hmm, I dont think it would be on the right side, the launcher will be on the left side for ever, I'm afraid. | 16:04 |
| Stanley00 | rocky: why dont you set the launcher only on one screen? | 16:04 |
| rocky | Stanley00, i know that gnome is mostly less-config-is-better but this is one instance where the launcher really should be configurable | 16:04 |
| e01 | so i was on way to give another try to unity but still unusable for me :( | 16:05 |
| rocky | Stanley00, how? | 16:05 |
| Stanley00 | rocky: By display setting in control center | 16:06 |
| rocky | and there really shouldn't be any resistance with the mouse cursor when i move from my right screen to the left | 16:06 |
| Stanley00 | rocky: yep | 16:06 |
| Stanley00 | rocky: I used AMD control center to set that, not sure about dislay setting. | 16:07 |
| rocky | display setting in control panel only shows me my screens i have configured, there's no launcher setting there | 16:07 |
| rocky | this is an intel graphics chip | 16:08 |
| rocky | heh, alt-tab is showing me a duplicate of every chrome window i have open | 16:09 |
| Stanley00 | rocky: hmm, just a min, I need to search something ;) | 16:09 |
| jcook_5xdata | Stanley00, I have the same problem as rocky. Intel GPU I do not see any option for that ether | 16:10 |
| rocky | lol the launcher is throwing a fit, it thinks i have two instances of every app running | 16:12 |
| rocky | probably because i have two launchers | 16:12 |
| jcook_5xdata | I really hope the create a option to turn off the second launcher or Ubuntu tweak does | 16:13 |
| Stanley00 | hmm, it looks like we have to edit xorg.conf to use that option :-s | 16:14 |
| jcook_5xdata | Stanley00, you have a link? | 16:20 |
| Stanley00 | rocky, jcook_5xdata: did you try Xinerama? it's said can use multi screen as a big one? | 16:20 |
| Stanley00 | last post of this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1457931 says so | 16:21 |
| rocky | well i'm using standard gnome display configuration to make my two screens one big one | 16:21 |
| Stanley00 | rocky: then it still shows up the launcher on the second screen? | 16:22 |
| rocky | yes | 16:22 |
| rocky | after using the new changes for the past 30min the current behaviour is terrible... i guess that's what i get for running an alpha ;) | 16:23 |
| jcook_5xdata | same here | 16:23 |
| rocky | it's ok... i get my ssd within the next few days and will just go back to oneric until beta ;) | 16:23 |
| Stanley00 | rocky: I dont think it set as a big one monitor. | 16:23 |
| rocky | the reason i updated to precise is because i'm running a new laptop and i have to do kernel settings and such (that i was hoping was fixed with precise) to even boot up properly | 16:24 |
| rocky | Stanley00, if it weren't set to one big monitor i wouldn't be able to move windows from one display to the other | 16:24 |
| jcook_5xdata | Stanley00, I know mine is. It was fine till the update today | 16:24 |
| rocky | yeah what jcook_5xdata said | 16:26 |
| rocky | and i still have the problem of no audio :( | 16:26 |
| rocky | ever since upgrade to precise | 16:26 |
| jcook_5xdata | also I notice this i unity-team ppa I removed it because of this problem. They most of merge it last night. ooohhh well I guess I move to gnome till ubuntu tweak has an option | 16:27 |
| jcook_5xdata | does it show your sound card? | 16:28 |
| Stanley00 | well, I must go now... bye bye | 16:28 |
| urlin2u | jcook_5xdata, I dount ubuntu tweak will have that, ubnity is a compiz plugin. | 16:29 |
| urlin2u | unity | 16:29 |
| jcook_5xdata | tweaks does do some stuff with compiz plugin | 16:30 |
| jcook_5xdata | or there alway CCMS | 16:30 |
| urlin2u | jcook_5xdata, yes and it may do what you want but I wouldn't hold your breath, but somebody or canonical will have a workaround. | 16:31 |
| urlin2u | keep a eye on the web for a fix is whatI would do. | 16:31 |
| rocky | jcook_5xdata, no... i've been goolging and a few people are reporting the same issue... what's happening is that in sound settings it's showing my hdmi output (which i don't use) but doesn't show my standard laptop speakers/audio | 16:32 |
| urlin2u | fix, hack you know. :) | 16:32 |
| jcook_5xdata | Yea i think your right. no biggie I like Unity over Gnome. I try this new thing if I cant stand move to gnome till the work around hits | 16:32 |
| jcook_5xdata | OMG or web8 will have something in a few days I am sure | 16:33 |
| urlin2u | rocky, distro upgrades can be problematic, especially to a development, personally I never go this route there are faster easier methods to upgrade and have all your stuff. | 16:33 |
| jcook_5xdata | or there alway KDE lol | 16:34 |
| urlin2u | jcook_5xdata, I was thinking of those two yeah. | 16:34 |
| rocky | urlin2u, yeah i was hoping precise would get more of my new hardware working but instead it got less lol ... so i'll probably be switching back on the weekend | 16:45 |
| urlin2u | rocky, to bad you can clone your OS so in the future you have an image clonezilla.org | 16:47 |
| rocky | urlin2u, yeah someone showed that to me right after i upgraded lol | 16:47 |
| rocky | but as i said here earlier, i have a new ssd coming and intended on reinstalling anyways | 16:48 |
| urlin2u | best thing since sliced bread. | 16:48 |
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| blair | there's a typo in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview/Alpha2 for the bug ID for "Some systems with nVidia hardware are seeing a kernel NULL pointer dereference" | 18:41 |
| blair | lists bug ID 92440, but that's from 2007 | 18:42 |
| cousin_luigi | Greetings | 18:55 |
| cousin_luigi | Are there known problems with Precise on Virtualbox? | 18:55 |
| FernandoMiguel | evening | 19:58 |
| FernandoMiguel | I told you | 19:58 |
| FernandoMiguel | no updates on fridays | 19:59 |
| FernandoMiguel | I seem to have lost themes | 19:59 |
| Daekdroom | It seems to me that I always dislike any changes made to Ambiance/Radiance. | 20:01 |
| FernandoMiguel | everyone does | 20:03 |
| FernandoMiguel | and we can't even change settings | 20:03 |
| zzecool | I found a bug that relies on a main lib "libgtk-3-0" and i dont know how to report this one on launchpad | 20:45 |
| zzecool | any help would be appreciated | 20:45 |
| nanobolic | is there a channel for the ubuntu hud? or unity team? | 20:47 |
| zzecool | i think there is for unity | 20:47 |
| zzecool | sec | 20:47 |
| zzecool | unity3d has the most users | 20:48 |
| zzecool | 179 users right now | 20:48 |
| nanobolic | zzecool, so #unity3d | 20:48 |
| zzecool | join #unity3d | 20:48 |
| zzecool | yes | 20:48 |
| zzecool | you may find help | 20:49 |
| nanobolic | zzecool, that mate | 20:49 |
| zzecool | im looking for help here too | 20:49 |
| zzecool | :) | 20:49 |
| zzecool | npo | 20:49 |
| zzecool | np | 20:49 |
| nhaines | nanobolic, zzecool try #ubuntu-unity | 21:08 |
| blair | an incorrect bug ID is listed in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview/Alpha2 for "Some systems with nVidia hardware are seeing a kernel NULL pointer dereference"; s bug ID 92440, but that's from 2007 | 22:40 |
| trism | blair: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/924400 seems to just be missing a 0 | 22:44 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 924400 in linux (Ubuntu) "kernel NULL pointer dereference at 00000000000001f0" [Medium,Confirmed] | 22:44 |
| blair | trism, thanks, but how to let someone know to fix it | 22:45 |
| astraljava | blair: Fixed. In the future, you can do it yourself, it's a wiki after all. | 22:48 |
| blair | astraljava, right, the thought should have occurred to me (doh) | 22:48 |
| astraljava | :) | 22:49 |
| blair | figured it was an official release document | 22:49 |
| astraljava | Official or not, mistakes can happen. | 22:49 |
| astraljava | The relevant people are notified of the changes anyway, so they could fix it back if it was erroneous. | 22:50 |
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| rocky | any fixes been done to the launcher since the updates this morning? | 23:36 |
| rocky | launcher stuff is driving me nuts | 23:36 |
| zzecool | rocky: what do you mean ? | 23:48 |
| zzecool | rocky: describe me your problem | 23:48 |
| rocky | well last update i did forces another launcher onto my second display ... and there is a heavy resistance when i try moving my mouse cursor from my right display to my left display (they're acting as one big screen as setup by the standard gnome display settings) | 23:49 |
| rocky | i wouldn't mind the second launcher *if* it were on the right of my right screen | 23:49 |
| rocky | but having it on the left of my right screen is just irritating | 23:49 |
| zzecool | yes | 23:49 |
| zzecool | this is gonna be permanent | 23:49 |
| zzecool | its their new multimonitor support | 23:49 |
| zzecool | about reistance | 23:50 |
| zzecool | i can help you | 23:50 |
| zzecool | resistance* | 23:50 |
| zzecool | to you have CCSM installed | 23:50 |
| zzecool | ? | 23:50 |
| zzecool | do* | 23:50 |
| zzecool | ? | 23:50 |
| zzecool | rocky: ? | 23:51 |
| rocky | sorry no, what's ccsm? | 23:53 |
| zzecool | its the compizconfig-settings-manager | 23:53 |
| rocky | oh ok | 23:53 |
| zzecool | a tool that can config all the compiz plugins | 23:53 |
| zzecool | do you have any experience with this ? | 23:53 |
| rocky | yeah a little | 23:54 |
| rocky | installed it on other desktops a while back | 23:54 |
| zzecool | nice | 23:54 |
| zzecool | open it up | 23:54 |
| zzecool | and go to the unity plugin | 23:54 |
| zzecool | type unity on the search box if you want to be faster :) | 23:54 |
| zzecool | Tell me when you rdy | 23:55 |
| rocky | ready | 23:55 |
| zzecool | nice | 23:55 |
| zzecool | go to the 3rd tab called experimental | 23:55 |
| rocky | the tabs on the left you mean? i'm not seeing an experimental one | 23:56 |
| zzecool | are you on the unitu plugin ? | 23:57 |
| zzecool | unity* | 23:57 |
| zzecool | on the left are the categories we dont care we need them all | 23:57 |
| rocky | i just installed ccsm and ran it, i don't see anything about unity or experimental | 23:58 |
| zzecool | do you se on the top left a search box with the title filter? | 23:58 |
| rocky | yep | 23:58 |
| zzecool | type uni | 23:58 |
| zzecool | in there or unity | 23:58 |
| rocky | got it | 23:59 |
| zzecool | this is just a filter for the plugins on the right side | 23:59 |
| zzecool | ok | 23:59 |
| zzecool | open unity plugin | 23:59 |
| rocky | yep i'm on it, and i'm on the experimental tab | 23:59 |
| zzecool | ok | 23:59 |
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