[00:00] lol [00:01] Actually precise feel more stable and HELL ALOT faster than oneiric [00:01] all this using unity [00:02] There is a huge improvement on Unity , faster smoother more features etc [00:02] wait 2 months and see what it is like [00:02] im allrdy running precise [00:03] so i didnt wait :) [00:03] But im stuck to alpha 1 cause this update problem [00:03] probably by tommorow it gonna be fixed [00:03] :) [00:03] and a normal update will push me to alpha 2 + [00:06] i feel confident cause even Mark Shuttleworth said that he upgraded he main laptop to precise :) So thing must Go fine or they will have to fight with him lol ;p [00:06] his* [00:06] things* [00:06] ohh evil typos ;p [00:17] nite folks === Guest17677 is now known as jrgifford [01:16] I'd like to set up an LTSP server for my environment here. In the past, I had a server (10.04LTS) and I found a package that allowed me to customize the profile (desktop icons, launchers, desktop background, etc..) for new users who logged in. I have since forgotten the name of this package, but I was wondering if 12.04 would include a tool such as that. [01:16] That ability is critical for me to successfully set up the server. [01:54] Anyone here now how to make ubuntu boot faster without using a DHCP address? [02:00] blizzow: that should not have anything to do with boot speed [02:00] I mean without forcing a static IP address. [02:01] blizzow: don't have it configure the network then [02:01] I keep getting this message saying it's waiting for the network configuration to boot, and then another that says waiting another 60 seconds to boot. It pretty much negates having a fast booting ssd. [02:01] I don't want to have to config the network everytime I log in. [02:02] I just want the DHCP address to come a little later. [02:02] Without holding the whole laptop up. [02:03] blizzow: what version of ubuntu are you using? [02:08] precise [04:01] Just trying out 12.04 server alpha 2 - Upon boot terminal tty7 is just showing a flashing cursor. I can ctrl alt to change to different terminal and login, ssh login also works fine. Whats going on with tty7? [04:03] try 8 [04:11] tty1-6 work, was just wondering if anyone knew anything about it [04:13] I think tty7 is supposed to be where the GUI stuff is supposed to be [04:13] Thermionix: if it is ubuntu server, there should only be 1-6, started by /etc/init/tty[1-6].conf [04:13] anyone know how to disable lightdm from running pulseaudio for a specific session? [04:14] is booting to tty7 with only ssh added to server :/ [04:14] it interferes with the audio latency when running xbmc.. i had a dedicated xbmc login from my lightdm menu [04:14] but i would like to continue to use pulseaudio when logging in to a normal session [04:14] Thermionix: oh, it is booting to tty7, don't know then [04:17] i dont know enough about how xsessions and pulseaudio works :/ [04:19] theres no lightdm channel either :| === lolcat___ is now known as lolcat} [07:14] o all [07:14] hello all [07:14] anyone here using thunderbird? [07:16] is it broken? [07:17] in a way, since the latest updates the font colour choice is so bad you cant read the menu buttons or any of the open emails in open tabs [07:17] so i would like to know if thats just me or anyone else so I can log a bug [07:20] GTRsdk: do you have the issue? is the getmail, write, address book and tag font colour a really similar grey that then menu and unity panel colour? [07:23] a lot of the theming is all wonky [07:25] ok so it's a known issue? [07:29] i know about it, but i don't matter [07:29] woah... I don't use my Ubuntu computers for Thunderbird, but that's pretty bad. Not to say that I haven't in the past and have had issues with it, but it was mostly printing and enigmail [07:30] most of the themes for me have unreadable menus and stuff [07:30] only one that works is way way too orange :( [07:30] its all non-customizable too [07:30] Ben64: do u know if there is a bug logged for it? [07:30] dunno [07:30] doesn't seem like a bug as much as a bad design [07:31] at least it feels like the good old times of 9.04... but wait it shouldn't do that, shoudl it? [07:31] i'm on 10.04 on my main computer, and I can adjust the colors of any element easily [07:31] 12.04 has went backwards in that respect [07:33] http://www.ben64.com/custom1004.jpg [08:28] remove-all-packages fixed? [08:37] has someone here tested the alpha 2 release? === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson [09:19] oh its out now is it [10:36] hello [10:42] hi [10:52] alpha 2 using kernel 3.2.0 not kernel 3.2.2 [10:52] :( [11:24] just upgrading to alpha 2 is there anything that really needs testing off the top of anyones head? [11:28] read the bug reports [12:09] It took me a little time to notice that right-click menus are now white in Ambiance. [12:11] Daekdroom: yeah i noticed it too. [12:12] it is kinda weight. [12:12] *weird not weight. (not sure what i was thinking when i typed that one) [14:19] hi everyone. i am running precise with the latest updates. after the last update, unity 3d was removed (after i did apt-get autoremove and it removed ubuntu-desktop). now i only have gnome 3, classic and unity 2d. [14:20] to get back unity 3d, what do i need to install? [14:20] ubuntu-desktop package or something else? [14:21] i am getting an error when i try to install ubuntu-desktop. it says that it depends on unity but it is not going to be installed. [14:23] i am guessing that i have partial updates installed. i mean, i must have updated before all the required dependencies had been updated in the archives. is this correct? i like unity 3d and i want it, though gnome 3 is also passable. [15:27] hggdh: Everything fixed in The Repositories :) Update went smooth [15:31] I did a update today and after a reboot both my monitor have a dock. anyone else have this? [15:33] jcook_5xdata, Unity was changed for multimonitor setups [15:34] yuk I hope they do not keep like that. I can see the thought behind it, but it make it hard to work [15:41] my mouse get stuck move to other screen [15:42] jcook_5xdata, it's intentional [15:43] and you can change the pressure necessary to reveal the launcher or to go to another screen in CCSM [15:45] hello [15:46] is it possible to get unity in pangolin to have such window list in unity launcher https://launchpadlibrarian.net/90787502/window-list.png [15:58] hrm i don't think i like the new unity launcher behaviour [15:58] is there anyway to configure it? [15:58] rocky: which one you dont like? [16:00] e01: if you want to go through windows of one app, you can use "ALT + `" ;) [16:01] Stanley00, well... the fact that i have to push against the side of my screen with my mouse cursor for like 2sec before the launcher appears (when i have a fullscreen window open) [16:01] e01: or simply click on the icon on the launchrt :D [16:01] plus... i have a dual monitor setup... and now the launcher is showing up on my second screen and it prevents me from going to my left screen (unless i move my mouse really fast) [16:01] Stanley00: but is this implemented on pangolin or this screenshot is fake [16:01] preferably, the launcher on my second screen would show up on the right side [16:02] e01: I think it's some kinds of mock-up [16:03] :( [16:04] rocky: hmm, I dont think it would be on the right side, the launcher will be on the left side for ever, I'm afraid. [16:04] rocky: why dont you set the launcher only on one screen? [16:04] Stanley00, i know that gnome is mostly less-config-is-better but this is one instance where the launcher really should be configurable [16:05] so i was on way to give another try to unity but still unusable for me :( [16:05] Stanley00, how? [16:06] rocky: By display setting in control center [16:06] and there really shouldn't be any resistance with the mouse cursor when i move from my right screen to the left [16:06] rocky: yep [16:07] rocky: I used AMD control center to set that, not sure about dislay setting. [16:07] display setting in control panel only shows me my screens i have configured, there's no launcher setting there [16:08] this is an intel graphics chip [16:09] heh, alt-tab is showing me a duplicate of every chrome window i have open [16:09] rocky: hmm, just a min, I need to search something ;) [16:10] Stanley00, I have the same problem as rocky. Intel GPU I do not see any option for that ether [16:12] lol the launcher is throwing a fit, it thinks i have two instances of every app running [16:12] probably because i have two launchers [16:13] I really hope the create a option to turn off the second launcher or Ubuntu tweak does [16:14] hmm, it looks like we have to edit xorg.conf to use that option :-s [16:20] Stanley00, you have a link? [16:20] rocky, jcook_5xdata: did you try Xinerama? it's said can use multi screen as a big one? [16:21] last post of this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1457931 says so [16:21] well i'm using standard gnome display configuration to make my two screens one big one [16:22] rocky: then it still shows up the launcher on the second screen? [16:22] yes [16:23] after using the new changes for the past 30min the current behaviour is terrible... i guess that's what i get for running an alpha ;) [16:23] same here [16:23] it's ok... i get my ssd within the next few days and will just go back to oneric until beta ;) [16:23] rocky: I dont think it set as a big one monitor. [16:24] the reason i updated to precise is because i'm running a new laptop and i have to do kernel settings and such (that i was hoping was fixed with precise) to even boot up properly [16:24] Stanley00, if it weren't set to one big monitor i wouldn't be able to move windows from one display to the other [16:24] Stanley00, I know mine is. It was fine till the update today [16:26] yeah what jcook_5xdata said [16:26] and i still have the problem of no audio :( [16:26] ever since upgrade to precise [16:27] also I notice this i unity-team ppa I removed it because of this problem. They most of merge it last night. ooohhh well I guess I move to gnome till ubuntu tweak has an option [16:28] does it show your sound card? [16:28] well, I must go now... bye bye [16:29] jcook_5xdata, I dount ubuntu tweak will have that, ubnity is a compiz plugin. [16:29] unity [16:30] tweaks does do some stuff with compiz plugin [16:30] or there alway CCMS [16:31] jcook_5xdata, yes and it may do what you want but I wouldn't hold your breath, but somebody or canonical will have a workaround. [16:31] keep a eye on the web for a fix is whatI would do. [16:32] jcook_5xdata, no... i've been goolging and a few people are reporting the same issue... what's happening is that in sound settings it's showing my hdmi output (which i don't use) but doesn't show my standard laptop speakers/audio [16:32] fix, hack you know. :) [16:32] Yea i think your right. no biggie I like Unity over Gnome. I try this new thing if I cant stand move to gnome till the work around hits [16:33] OMG or web8 will have something in a few days I am sure [16:33] rocky, distro upgrades can be problematic, especially to a development, personally I never go this route there are faster easier methods to upgrade and have all your stuff. [16:34] or there alway KDE lol [16:34] jcook_5xdata, I was thinking of those two yeah. [16:45] urlin2u, yeah i was hoping precise would get more of my new hardware working but instead it got less lol ... so i'll probably be switching back on the weekend [16:47] rocky, to bad you can clone your OS so in the future you have an image clonezilla.org [16:47] urlin2u, yeah someone showed that to me right after i upgraded lol [16:48] but as i said here earlier, i have a new ssd coming and intended on reinstalling anyways [16:48] best thing since sliced bread. === glebihan_ is now known as glebihan === yofel_ is now known as yofel === gord is now known as Guest53691 [18:41] there's a typo in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview/Alpha2 for the bug ID for "Some systems with nVidia hardware are seeing a kernel NULL pointer dereference" [18:42] lists bug ID 92440, but that's from 2007 [18:55] Greetings [18:55] Are there known problems with Precise on Virtualbox? [19:58] evening [19:58] I told you [19:59] no updates on fridays [19:59] I seem to have lost themes [20:01] It seems to me that I always dislike any changes made to Ambiance/Radiance. [20:03] everyone does [20:03] and we can't even change settings [20:45] I found a bug that relies on a main lib "libgtk-3-0" and i dont know how to report this one on launchpad [20:45] any help would be appreciated [20:47] is there a channel for the ubuntu hud? or unity team? [20:47] i think there is for unity [20:47] sec [20:48] unity3d has the most users [20:48] 179 users right now [20:48] zzecool, so #unity3d [20:48] join #unity3d [20:48] yes [20:49] you may find help [20:49] zzecool, that mate [20:49] im looking for help here too [20:49] :) [20:49] npo [20:49] np [21:08] nanobolic, zzecool try #ubuntu-unity [22:40] an incorrect bug ID is listed in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview/Alpha2 for "Some systems with nVidia hardware are seeing a kernel NULL pointer dereference"; s bug ID 92440, but that's from 2007 [22:44] blair: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/924400 seems to just be missing a 0 [22:44] Ubuntu bug 924400 in linux (Ubuntu) "kernel NULL pointer dereference at 00000000000001f0" [Medium,Confirmed] [22:45] trism, thanks, but how to let someone know to fix it [22:48] blair: Fixed. In the future, you can do it yourself, it's a wiki after all. [22:48] astraljava, right, the thought should have occurred to me (doh) [22:49] :) [22:49] figured it was an official release document [22:49] Official or not, mistakes can happen. [22:50] The relevant people are notified of the changes anyway, so they could fix it back if it was erroneous. === yofel_ is now known as yofel === SolidLiq is now known as solid_liq [23:36] any fixes been done to the launcher since the updates this morning? [23:36] launcher stuff is driving me nuts [23:48] rocky: what do you mean ? [23:48] rocky: describe me your problem [23:49] well last update i did forces another launcher onto my second display ... and there is a heavy resistance when i try moving my mouse cursor from my right display to my left display (they're acting as one big screen as setup by the standard gnome display settings) [23:49] i wouldn't mind the second launcher *if* it were on the right of my right screen [23:49] but having it on the left of my right screen is just irritating [23:49] yes [23:49] this is gonna be permanent [23:49] its their new multimonitor support [23:50] about reistance [23:50] i can help you [23:50] resistance* [23:50] to you have CCSM installed [23:50] ? [23:50] do* [23:50] ? [23:51] rocky: ? [23:53] sorry no, what's ccsm? [23:53] its the compizconfig-settings-manager [23:53] oh ok [23:53] a tool that can config all the compiz plugins [23:53] do you have any experience with this ? [23:54] yeah a little [23:54] installed it on other desktops a while back [23:54] nice [23:54] open it up [23:54] and go to the unity plugin [23:54] type unity on the search box if you want to be faster :) [23:55] Tell me when you rdy [23:55] ready [23:55] nice [23:55] go to the 3rd tab called experimental [23:56] the tabs on the left you mean? i'm not seeing an experimental one [23:57] are you on the unitu plugin ? [23:57] unity* [23:57] on the left are the categories we dont care we need them all [23:58] i just installed ccsm and ran it, i don't see anything about unity or experimental [23:58] do you se on the top left a search box with the title filter? [23:58] yep [23:58] type uni [23:58] in there or unity [23:59] got it [23:59] this is just a filter for the plugins on the right side [23:59] ok [23:59] open unity plugin [23:59] yep i'm on it, and i'm on the experimental tab [23:59] ok