[00:08] Could I get people to help me test the new mobile interface for Summit? Visit http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-p/ and look around.. then please click on one of the days and have a look around.. then click on one of the meeting names.. You *should* see details about the meeting display on that same page. [00:19] cjohnston: what email address shall I send screenshots too? [00:20] popey: are there problems? [00:20] minor ones, yes [00:20] could you file bugs please? [00:21] with screenshots [00:21] ok [00:21] what do i file bugs against? [00:21] launchpad.net/summit [00:26] bug 925815 [00:26] Launchpad bug 925815 in summit "Broken image on daily page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/925815 [00:29] Goodbye. [00:29] o/ [00:32] bug 925819 [00:32] Launchpad bug 925819 in summit "Reader option doesn't render properly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/925819 [00:39] * nigelb hugs popey [00:39] * cjohnston assigns nigelb work [00:39] * nigelb gets ready to head out. [00:41] doctormon: pong [00:49] happy to test further tomorrow cjohnston / nigelb on ipad, iphone and android tab [01:46] nigelb: He is wondering about the Indian LoCo [01:46] he has been trying to get council to change him to the contact saying that the LoCo is dormant but it really is active and he doesnt even join their channel [01:46] :) [01:47] They have like 17 people in the channel and seem pretty active [01:47] mhall119: If I set more than one admin on loco directory can all admins create events? [01:52] bkerensa: all team members can create meeting [01:52] ok [01:57] bkerensa: I know he is. You do realize I'm on the Indian Loco right? [01:59] nigelb: I spaced it :P [02:00] bkerensa: He's so far not responded to whom he's contacted. [02:00] Which frustrates me. [02:00] heh [02:00] All I know is he comes in localteams channel everyday and complains about the team contact not responding [02:00] yeah [02:01] and if I recall correctly at the last loco council meeting he asked if he could be made contact or something [02:01] :P [02:02] Yeah, right. [02:02] :P [02:03] I'm so the new popey http://groups.google.com/group/bikeshed/msg/92013c2d482b10b0 [02:03] Did you shut down a list? [02:03] a whole pile of 'em! [02:04] * nigelb hugs pleia2 [02:04] that's so mean :| [02:04] (the post that is) [02:04] * pleia2 hugs [02:04] pleia2: hah, you beat popey! [02:05] Ok, headed to work. I've got a longish bike ride ahead of me. Catch you all laters! [02:06] huh [02:06] pleia2: What was that e-mail real? [02:06] or was that sarcasm [02:06] bkerensa: it's real [02:07] he's been meaner to popey actually [02:07] LOL [02:07] :( [02:07] I dont see what the issue is but oh well :D I guess I'm not him [02:09] What list did that hit? someone public or private? [02:09] it's the bikeshead google group (created when we shut down sounder), he Cc:ed me [02:10] I don't actually read that list, if it's anything like sounder it's mostly about complaining about how canonical and unity ruin Ubuntu [02:10] and politics [02:10] ahh ok I thought it was perhaps a archive of something that hit a Ubuntu list [02:10] oh Unity and Canonical trolling [02:10] frequent Godwin's law points :) [02:50] pleia2: heh [03:02] mhall119: Thanks for the pong, I worked out that introducing new categories requires unity to be restarted, [03:04] pleia2: Well at least they're still interested in Ubuntu; it's worse when people get so despondent you never hear from them. [07:11] good morning all [07:59] wow pleia2 [08:00] yeah [08:01] pleia2: Was hypodermia able to help? [08:01] bkerensa: yep :) I'll check in the fix soon (might do some testing to weed out some of the goofy characters we have problems with, but that's what Perl is good at!) [08:02] pleia2: he's starting getting quite uppity recently on -users too [08:02] not contributing usefully at all [08:04] popey: yeah, his Cc: for me on that list had -users discussions I usually ignore pulled into my inbox in the thread [08:04] the new moderators on -users are doing a good job, but he's a handful :( [08:20] good morning [08:35] bkerensa we already know about him [08:35] have another email from him in my inbox :/ [08:40] czajkowski: I assume you were talking about vibhav? [08:41] yes [08:41] oh ok :D [08:54] morning dholbach_ === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [09:01] hey jono [09:04] thoughts about the new theme? it looks quite bright - it seems I got quite used to the dark colours already :) [09:07] dholbach, what theme? [09:08] dholbach, btw, I got the server side validation for the ubuntu accomplishments working tonight [09:08] now the client, daemon, and validation basically work [09:08] and with that, I am heading to bed :-) [09:08] night all! [09:09] I just uploaded a screenshot, but with Jono gone... :) [10:42] dholbach, where's the screenshot? It might be a bug that should be resolved by the next unity upload. I asked about it on #ubuntu-desktop this morning when I saw all my menu indicators were gray instead of black [10:42] ah yes, that's what I meant [10:42] I wasn't sure if it was intentional [10:42] :) [10:43] :-) [13:02] morning [13:02] Morning mhall119 [13:03] dpm: ping [13:03] morning nigelb [13:03] morning mhall119 [13:03] morning dpm, do you happen to know what's going on with the BAMF documentation on the developer portal? [13:03] http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-11.10/c/bamf/ [13:05] mhall119, what's up with it? [13:05] oh I see [13:05] it seems to be empty [13:06] yeah [13:06] mhall119, d.u.c only publishes what's in the packages, so either the package does not build the documentation correctly, or the source code does not have documentation - I'd be tempted to say the latter [13:07] thanks dpm, I'll see who I can find to check on that [13:08] mhall119, cool, once sorted, let me know and I'll make sure it's updated on d.u.c [13:09] dpm: how does d.u.c look for documentation? [13:09] mhall119, it's simply a static list of per-distro packages in a config file on the server, which d.u.c fetches weekly and then publishes [13:12] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/827577/ [13:12] ah, ok [13:19] it'd be great to make that list dynamic, but I can't think of any way of doing it, as there is no standard naming convention for packages to guess them [13:20] most of them are lib$LIBNAME-doc, but that's not always the case [13:21] Yay, 4 service tango: http://imagebin.org/197082 [13:22] dholbach, does http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/singlehtml/ look like the latest version? [13:22] it should be updated by now [13:24] dpm: yeah, I suppose we could make a meta-package for all unity related developer docs [13:24] but they somebody still has to maintain that [13:25] yeah, it's a good idea, but I agree that maintaining it might be extra work [13:25] but also there are other things which while are Ubuntu upstreams, they are not part of the Unity project, such as uTouch [13:25] yeah [13:31] mhall119: Do you want to wait for a deb package that installs for this lens, or are you happy to add it to the list? [13:31] doctormon: I'm happy to add it [13:32] mhall119: It's using singlet Lens, it never worked trying to put it inside the daemon. [13:32] Two dbus name spaces cause Unity's library to segfault. [13:33] doctormon: cool, singlet should be in Precise's Universe soon [13:33] doctormon: send me the info on the lens, or a link to the info, and I'll put it on my lis [13:33] list [13:34] So I can't do a bug search (unless all you want to search is gnome-bugzilla and gnu savannah) because launchpad and github don't have global bug searches. [13:34] they don't? that sucks [13:35] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~groundcontrollers/groundcontrol/trunk/files/head:/lens/ [13:36] mhall119: Something about it being a resource drain on very large databases. I also had to ditch google-code support, it's search api is ironically impossible. [13:36] didn't they close code search anyway? [13:37] Not sure, but research showed that doing a general search with the gdata.sites.client api with a google_code and google_developer context _should_ have worked. [13:37] But all I ever get is 405 Bad Request and the documentation is verbose in it's uselessness. [13:37] doctormon: what releases does your lens work on? [13:38] Precise only, it won't work on anything less. [13:38] cool [13:38] So to get back to my point, I'm going to do the developers search before I do more work on the bug problem. [13:39] Because all services support searching for people. [13:39] yeah, Singlet is going to be Precise-only unless someone else takes up the 0.1 branch [13:39] I actually had to duplicate some of your code, I have dynamic categories and multiple scopes. [13:40] So I have some ideas on API improvements if you're interested. [13:41] doctormon: once singlet is in Universe, I'll help you get it packaged and we'll send it through the ARB process [13:41] and get it into Software Center [13:41] yeah, definitely interested in API improvements [13:42] Well groundcontrol is in universe already, so going from 1.6.2 to 2.1 will be a debian job I think. [13:42] We'll obviously make sure it creates multiple debs for the lens/unity support and the core. [13:44] oh, cool [13:44] yeah, you'll need your lens binary to Depend on python-unity-singlet [13:51] Yes :-) thanks for your help and advice getting the bulk of the work prepared. [13:54] happy to help [13:54] I'm glad to know Singlet worked well for you [13:55] and definitely let me know your thoughts on API changes [13:55] or send me an MP, that'll work too ;) [13:55] I want to make Singlet is complete as possible before the repos freeze [14:01] Send you a Member of P aliment or Military Police? [14:03] mhall119: One thing I notice is that it doesn't end the previous searches, so if I take too long to type things in, it'll display results for each search. [14:03] say I search for doctormo and pause at doc, now I get results for doctormo and doc [14:04] doctormon: as a US civilian, neither would be able to do anything, so a Merge Proposal might be better [14:04] Ah that's an MRQ Merge Request. [14:04] doctormon: yeah, they introduce a Cancellable object in Unity 5, but it doesn't seem to do anything [14:05] Singlet checks if Cancellable.is_cancelled() [14:05] Or just 'patch' to layman. lol [14:05] but I've never seen it be True [14:05] I'm going to track my searchers and break them when I get a new search in. [14:06] doctormon: that's sometehing that should be working in Singlet, I'll need to talk to one of the unity guys to figure out what I'm doing wrong [14:07] Don't worry it might not be, I can't see any entry points for the default Lens to cancel it and I certainly haven't been able to hook up my break code to anything. [14:07] dpm, yes, it looks alright [14:09] mhall119: Ah no wait, it should cancel... it's hooked up to finish() when it calls the complete signal. [14:09] My guess is that it's not calling complete when the search is refreshed. [14:09] so SingleScopeLens doesn't get the Cancellable object [14:10] but if you used the base Scope class you wouold [14:10] I'm not using SingleScopeLens, I'm using Lens directly. [14:10] and Scope? [14:11] I'm using Unity.Scope [14:11] oh... [14:12] so you're having to connect to all the dbus signals yourself? [14:12] Well yeah, isn't that how it works? Your example in the SingleScopeLens works that way. [14:13] SingleScopeLens isn't an example, it's meant to be sub-classed [14:14] mhall119: Everything is an example; if not then shouldn't SingleScopeLens be using singlet.scope.base.Scope instead? [14:14] it was written before Scope [14:15] doctormon: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mhall119/onehundredscopes/dictionary/view/head:/dictionary-lens is an example of how to use SingleScopeLens [14:16] mhall119: Yeah and I have a multi scope dynamic category Lens. the dictionary-lens example was insufficient. [14:16] I'm moving it over to use singlet Scopes now... [14:16] ok, then the community lens and locoteams scope are good examples for you [14:17] :-) thanks mhall119 [14:17] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mhall119/onehundredscopes/unity-community-lens/view/head:/community-lens [14:18] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mhall119/onehundredscopes/unity-planetubuntu-scope/view/head:/planetubuntu-scope [14:18] the planetubuntu scope is simpler than the locoteams scope, so probably better as an example [14:21] huats, monsieur? [14:22] ready dholbach ? [14:22] yes :) [14:23] huats, hangout started [14:42] dholbach: are you around ? [14:43] dholbach: I have lost you [14:43] :( === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [14:44] huats, desolé - je pense que mon router est en train de mourir [14:44] dholbach: I have started another hangout [14:44] oh :( [14:50] huats, now I lost you :) [14:50] huats, so yes - I think we should have a look and see how we add the dates and stuff at some stage :) [14:52] anyone know the correct way to always write upsteam? is it Upstream or upstream in a sentence? [14:53] I would think your use would be a noun [14:53] and proper [14:53] I'd say non-proper [14:54] I'm not sure it makes much difference either way [14:54] * cjohnston says mhall119 should do it [14:54] to me, 'upstream' is like 'partners', it's not capitalized [14:54] duno [14:55] dholbach: sorry [14:55] I think my laptop battery is a friend of your router... [14:55] huats, so yes - I think we should have a look and see how we add the dates and stuff at some stage :) [14:55] dholbach: it is needed to know if we need to email again [14:56] or to have some information [14:56] (and especially when there a many people involved in the team) [14:56] huats, I'd say if somebody assigns a person to themselves, they should look after it and make sure that everything gets sorted out and then mark it green when it's done [14:56] but having some date information would be good too [14:57] ok [14:57] let's discuss it once we have a team :) [14:58] sorry, I mean: a bigger team :) [14:58] :) [14:58] sure :) [14:58] I think I am big enough :) [15:00] brb [15:02] wow, unity now does alt-tab-just-for-stuff-on-your-workspace [15:02] NICE [15:03] yeah ☺ [15:03] where's the champagne? [15:03] maybe after connect ill upgrade my laptop to precise [15:09] dholbach, nice job on developer week [15:09] I liked the changes this time too [15:09] james_w, and I liked your session - nice job! :) [15:20] dholbach: I know that was like the biggest thing for me, the alt-tab [15:51] yes, nice job dholbach. I got to see a few sesions and they went well [15:51] thanks a lot everyone for giving your sessions [15:51] I'll send you all a mail afterwards still [15:51] it's on my list :) [15:52] big big hugs :) [15:56] hey jono [15:57] hey jono [15:58] we have a call like in 2 minutes? [15:58] hey chaps [15:58] yup [15:58] I was just about to ask [15:58] cprofitt, can you join it as we discussed? [15:58] IRC or G+? :) [15:59] G+ [16:00] hey cprofitt.. thanks for doing your session yesterday :-) you got to be the big finish. [16:01] creating it now [16:05] balloons, we cant see or hear you [16:05] balloons: you there? [16:05] jono, dholbach, jcastro, I'll be there in a minute, for some reason I'm being asked to reinstall the driver [16:05] and mhall119 ^ [16:06] err plugin, not driver [16:07] bkerensa, want to join our hangout now to discuss the Ubuntu Global Jam? [16:07] pleia2, would you like to join? === fenris is now known as Guest21494 === Guest21494 is now known as ejat [16:20] dholbach, dpm, jcastro weird, I can't get back in [16:20] jono, inviting you [16:24] morning all [16:25] Aloha technoviking [16:28] jono: just got off a srvc call [16:28] is this still going? [16:28] cprofitt, should I invite you? [16:28] invite sent [16:28] sure, but I may get pulled away [16:29] cprofitt, invite sent [16:49] jono: has the hangout long expired? [16:49] ;p [16:50] bkerensa, about to wrap [16:52] jono: thanks anyway, just woke up :) [16:52] pleia2: email went out [16:53] pleia2: I think my mic is tango down now [16:54] cjohnston: great, thanks :) === glebihan_ is now known as glebihan [17:02] mhall119: What was date I'm going to put it in my Calendar so I can start ramping stuff up on my end [17:02] jcastro, I was just going to create a trello board!.. rofl, you beat me to it [17:02] bkerensa: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/1443/detail/ [17:02] thanks [17:02] np [17:10] sorry for getting called away and only making part of the call [17:10] always a bit of a gamble if I will be free at work [17:19] cprofitt, thanks for joining.. it's nice to have gotten you for the time we did :-) [17:19] and you had a great idea [17:24] mhall119, mockups sent [17:26] jono: Really glad this doesn't fall on a holiday again :) now I can try and get Brian Murray to attend [17:27] oh [17:27] jono: Really glad this doesn't fall on a holiday again :) now I can try and get Brian Murray to attend [17:28] jono: that was fast [17:29] :-) [17:29] mhall119, :-) [17:29] this is urgent :-) [17:30] jono: can you join #ubuntu-arb for me? Trying to work out how to get scope packages through the ARB process [17:43] alright my good friends [17:43] I call it a day - have a great weekend everyone [17:44] HUGS [17:44] dholbach: gnight [17:44] bye bkerensa :) === fenris is now known as Guest21540 === Guest21540 is now known as ejat [17:59] jono: Is there any way to know if someone is still working for Canonical? I'm getting bounced e-mails [18:01] bkerensa, who from? [18:01] jono: Allison Randal [18:02] bkerensa, she's no longer @ canonical [18:02] :( [18:02] ok [18:02] I think I have her personal e-mail [18:03] bkerensa: she has some listed on https://launchpad.net/~allison too [18:04] mhall119, bkerensa launchpad is a good way to tell actually [18:04] Yeah I just noticed she changed her e-mail on our ML from Canonical to something else so I'm pinging her there [18:04] member or the canonical team.. or not [18:10] bkerensa, she is leaving [18:10] in fact, she has left [18:11] kk [18:35] jono: I found our song for UDS. [18:35] Aw, isn't that sweet [18:35] but I think only you and I will like it. Just like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiJQRbQ_8mo&feature=related [18:35] ok so I can't really play that but this is epic. [18:35] that is all. [18:35] jcastro: Where are you two registered? :) [18:35] And will it be a civil ceremony? [18:36] heh [18:36] a quick trip to vegas? [18:36] You need a drummer that can keep up. :) [18:36] (cough) [18:37] jono, that youtube video sound fine.. after 2 mins of it I realized it wasn't the intro anymore, so I found the "full" version.. haha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3ONXlI2k0k [18:39] that song is so underrated [18:39] it's like the best one on the record [18:40] :-) [18:41] too bad there are 6 of us, we could have been the 5 Magics [18:41] we need a new nickname [18:42] I don't think Daniel will go for Numbers of the Beast. >_> [18:44] hehe [18:44] the name will come naturally I'm sure [18:48] heh [18:56] jcastro: I think you guys should tackle something easy [18:56] Like King Crimson. ;) [18:58] Red for instance. ;) [19:00] Or VROOOM [19:09] =o [19:09] 20+ people for our Ubuntu Hour now [19:09] !! [19:09] is that happening now? [19:09] if it grows much larger I dont think we will fit the restaurant [19:10] tonight [19:12] wow.. go go bkerensa1 [19:31] aquarius: i think jorge and technoviking know about teh forums stuff [19:47] who do I talk to about having the Ubuntu One icon on http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11661766&postcount=33 updated to be the modern U1 logo? :) [19:48] (sorry if I disappear; am having big network problems with virgin media) [21:20] pleia2: im marking myself +5 after that email.. im not sure that they have LP accounts [21:24] cjohnston: ok, thanks :) [22:02] hey all, did anything come of the donate from SW center discussion we had at UDS 1 or 2 back? [22:03] ok outta here for the weekend [22:04] see you all on the flip side [22:04] jono: good luck tonight, take some pics! [22:04] flip side jcastro ! [23:14] 'lo cprofitt