sorenhallyn, slangasek: Found it.00:03
soren# Consult white-list to determine whether to enable werror00:03
soren# by default.  Only enable by default for git builds00:03
sorenz_version=`cut -f3 -d. $source_path/VERSION`00:03
sorenslangasek: So -Werror gets enabled becuase there's a microversion.00:04
slangasekaha! :)00:05
sorenSorry, poor cut/paste job. The first three lines there are from configure. the last to are the VERSION files from the older and the newer qemu, respectively.,00:05
soren*last two00:05
slangasekright, so maybe we should disable that again in the package for now00:05
sorenBit of a brain bender there :)00:05
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RAOFsoren: That error message suggests that you'll be trading a build failure for a run-time crash, though?00:11
lifelessRAOF: clearly preferrable :P00:16
slangasekRAOF: pretty unlikely, really00:31
slangasekI suspect spice-protocol is using a wrong integer type for "int that can store a pointer"00:32
RAOFslangasek: Maybe my experience is atypical, but for me that error generally indicates someone's going to try to jump through the low 32 bits of a 64bit pointer :)00:32
slangasekRAOF: yes, but this error *only* occurs on *32* bit systems :)00:33
RAOFAh.  Context!00:33
loolmicahg: Absolutely not, it's yours00:48
loolmicahg: thanks for checking00:48
SarvattSpamapS: were you specifying mtrack in your xorg.conf or something? You have a macbook air if I'm not mistaken right? synaptics works absolutely fine on these01:02
brycehSpamapS, I closed out the bug with an explanation of what's going on01:10
brycehSpamapS, thanks for filing it, I hadn't really looked at mtrack until this.01:11
pittiGood morning05:11
tjaaltonI've uploaded mesa 8.0~rc2 which needs some help from an archive admin to push it through NEW, it adds libxatracker which is needed by xserver-xorg-video-vmware (and demoed at FOSDEM tomorrow I'm told..)05:39
tjaaltonso if someone could give it a push once it's uploaded, that'd be great05:39
pittiah, it's not yet in the queue05:40
tjaaltonyeah it'll take some time to build too05:40
wgrantpitti: Bug #924181 looks like apport is trying to set a tag with capital letters in it, which is forbidden.07:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 924181 in launchpadlib "unable to log bugs with ubuntu-bug for unity or unity-2d" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92418107:58
pittiwgrant: ah, thanks! will adjust accordingly08:08
wgrantpitti: Thanks.08:09
tjaaltonpitti: x86 mesa built. can you accept the new binaries now, or should the other archs be finished building before accepting?08:16
pittitjaalton: we usually wait for most arches; if it's very urgent, I can accept them now08:16
tjaaltonwell I don't know how long the arm* and powerpc builds take08:16
tjaaltonI can check and get back to you08:17
pittitjaalton: I'm not that concerned about ppc -- it's notoriously behind anyway08:17
tjaaltonwell armel will take around 11h :)08:18
tjaaltonbut maybe armhf is faster?08:18
pittiok, looking08:18
dholbachgood morning08:20
pittitjaalton: accepted08:21
pittihey dholbach, guten Morgen08:21
dholbachhey pitti08:21
tjaaltonpitti: ty08:23
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pittimicahg: lucid-proposed has gecko-mediaplayer and moon, but the two tasks on the tracking bug are all "New"; what should happen with these?08:33
pittizul: what's with all the new package uploads to oneiric-proposed? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+queue?queue_state=008:40
pittizul: were they meant for -backports, or something else?08:40
pittijtaylor: rejecting python-networkx oneiric-proposed, as it does not have a bug link; can you please reupload?08:42
FourDollarsdholbach: About https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/923637/comments/4 "ACKed, sync performed, sitting in the NEW queue, to be reviewed by our archive admins", where can I see the status?08:46
ubottuUbuntu bug 923637 in Ubuntu "Sync hime 0.9.9-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Fix released]08:46
* apw is attempting an update today and every :i386 package i have appears to be being 'REMOVED' is that to be expected in precise?08:46
pittiapw: the buildds are clogged due to the rebuild test, and thus we have a lot of i386 vs. amd64 build desync08:49
pittiapw: so it's not unlikely that you hit a library which already has built on i386 but not yet on amd6408:49
pittimultiarch requires them to be in sync08:49
pittiso perhaps only apt-get upgrade today08:49
apwpitti, ok thans08:50
diwicif multiarch requires i386 and amd64 to be in sync, maybe launchpad must be modified not to publish one of them but not the other?08:51
apwor apt modified to not think removing my packages is the solution08:51
wgrantdiwic: That gets extraordinarily awkward when you have powerpc lagging, and build failures.08:51
apwbut to hold them back instead08:51
diwicwouldn't be fun to have these kind of issues in an SRU situation, I can imagine08:51
wgrantapw: A normal upgrade should do that.08:51
wgrantOnly dist-upgrade will remove.08:51
wgrantdiwic: SRUs are copied atomically from -proposed to -updates.08:52
apwand dist-upgrade is what update-manager is doing no ?08:52
wgrantdiwic: After they've built.08:52
pittiwell, dist-upgrade is really the "normal" case, t hough08:52
diwicwgrant, I'm not saying wait for all; just wait for amd64 and i386 to be in sync08:52
apwand indeed what i am always advised i need to do to actually have what the archive intends on my machine08:52
wgrantdiwic: But what if I have armel installed as well? :)08:52
apwthats why it needs to be apt side, it knows what combinations you have installed08:53
diwicwgrant, hmm, there are no amd64-armel dependencies the way there are amd64-i386 dependencies (for certain software)08:53
diwicso is the situation really applicable on that case?08:54
wgrantdiwic: But it's very possible to have armel binaries installed on an amd64 system.08:54
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wgrantAnd multiarch requires that the versions be identical.08:54
wgrantRegardless of dependencies.08:54
wgrantIt's similar to the old arch-all skew issue, which we solved in Launchpad a few months ago.08:56
wgrantRight around the time the multiarch problem sprung up :D08:56
diwicwgrant, hmm, maybe we need to fix/improve multiarch instead then? I can understand cases where both amd64 and armel would depend on an -all package08:56
diwicin which case the upgrade must be held back until both versions are ready08:56
wgrantThat's a bit of a challenge.08:56
wgrantThat would be doable, I imagine.08:57
wgrantBut removing the version match restriction is a little difficult.08:57
diwicbut maybe I should go back to discuss what I know :-) and trust you guys to work out apt for me.08:57
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dholbachFourDollars, normally https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+queue09:02
dholbachFourDollars, but it seems it was accepted already09:02
dholbachFourDollars, http://pad.lv/u/hime09:02
FourDollarsdholbach: Thanks.09:04
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apwpitti, any idea how long we are going to be skewed by the buildds?  as i have half of the X update installed now as a result of doing 'update' and i am not sure thats a good combination09:35
apwpitti, hopefully its not the 12/13 days that the status page implies09:35
pittiapw: no, I think a day or less09:39
pittiapw: the 13 days is because we are running a rebuild test on the main builders09:39
pittibut most is universe09:39
apwpitti, why is the rebuild on the main builders, and if its going to be, why are we not putting some more online09:39
pittiI don't know09:39
* apw assumes its cause they are doing armhf as well09:40
pittiapw: you know, if only we had some technology to temporarily rent 200 vboxes from amazon or so..09:40
apwpitti, or perhaps we had our own openstack instance09:41
* pitti guesses it's to heat up the DC09:41
* pitti brrrrrs at -14 degrees09:41
apwpitti, now that is cold, i am whining cause its -1 outside09:41
tjaaltonyou had some general warning that it might get -10 or even less :)09:42
tjaaltonwe have -17 and a blizzard09:42
tjaaltonwas fun driving this morning09:42
* apw isn't going out "there"09:45
LaneyOne of the brakes on my bike was frozen this morning ...09:48
smbapw, You would feel awake and alive... well for about 1 minute... :)09:49
ckingit's a relatively balmy -1 degrees C here09:49
* diwic weighs in at -1109:50
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* tumbleweed waves from the land of 28°C :)09:56
dholbach /ignore tumbleweed09:56
* apw puts hit feet on tumbleweed09:58
* Laney is wearing 2.3 tog rated socks :-)09:59
ajmitchtumbleweed: now that's just cruel09:59
Laneymini duvets09:59
* tumbleweed decides he should mabe put a shirt on10:03
MacSlowmvo, ping10:18
apwcjwatson, i upgraded O->P and its not kept the latest kernel from the old series correctly, any idea what does that chosing ?10:19
cjwatsonapw: there is a ticket open already to upgrade the primary buildd pool10:27
cjwatsonapw: upgrade> um, not sure I understand10:27
apwcjwatson, i thought that when we upgrade N -> N+1 that we keep the latest kernel installed from N as well as a fallback10:28
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apwmy upgrade seems to have purged that kernel10:28
cjwatsonapw: I thought that was usually just by way of not removing the currently-installed kernel10:28
cjwatsonapw: if there's any specialised logic here, it must be in update-manager10:28
apwcjwatson, ahh, so if i was runnning something else i'd not keep it, ok that makes sense at least10:29
cjwatsonapw: update-manager/DistUpgrade/DistUpgradeCache.py:MyCache.identifyObsoleteKernels(), I think10:30
apwcjwatson, thanks :)10:30
cjwatsonindeed it removes obsolete kernels but skips the running kernel10:30
apwwhich actually is very logical, as that one clearly works10:30
cjwatsonright :)10:30
mvoMacSlow: pong10:31
apwcjwatson, so i now forgive it :)10:31
Pjotrcjwatson: in ubiquity, there's an incorrect and misleading message, which should be adapted or deleted, IMHO. Because it may lead to damage.10:32
PjotrI've made a Launchpad bug report about it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/92542710:32
ubottuUbuntu bug 925427 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) ""Ready when you are" message is misleading and incorrect" [Undecided,Confirmed]10:32
PjotrCan you do something about it?10:33
cjwatsonmpt: ^-10:33
cjwatsonI believe that's a design-specified message, and it's already been through an iteration or two.  I'd like mpt to review and suggest an amended design rather than just changing it myself.10:33
mptah yes10:35
mptI don't think there's been a formal test on it, but that's tripped up everyone I've watched installing10:35
mptNot that they think installation is finished, but that they sit there waiting for something else to happen10:36
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cjwatsonThe original intent was to remind people that the installer is currently waiting for you to finish answering questions before it can carry on10:37
cjwatson"Get on with it"10:37
apw"Waiting for you to complete the configuration questions"10:37
cjwatsonGets a bit long for a button :)10:37
cjwatsonEr, actually it isn't a button is it10:37
mptcjwatson, do you have a screenshot handy?10:38
cjwatsonNot immediately10:38
* cjwatson googles10:38
PjotrI'm sorry, I have no screenshot either...10:41
cjwatsonmpt: http://cache.sudobits.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/create-user.png10:42
cjwatsonfrom http://blog.sudobits.com/2011/09/11/how-to-install-ubuntu-11-10-from-usb-drive-or-cd/10:42
cjwatsonit might appear on previous question pages as well10:42
PjotrIt's not related to any Ubiquity instance that needs a user action. In that way, the screenshot is a bit confusing10:44
cjwatsonHmm?  It certainly is - it's waiting for the user to complete the action of answering all the questions10:46
cjwatsonThe user setup page constitutes some of those questions10:46
mptthanks cjwatson -- I think this is going to require more than a string fix unfortunately10:46
PjotrNo, the answering could have happened earlier on, and been finished already.10:47
* cjwatson eyes his upcoming leave10:47
cjwatsonPjotr: In that case you won't get the "Ready when you are" message.10:47
Pjotrthe "ready when you are" message happens anyway, regardless10:47
mptI've talked about this with ev before, maybe moving the progress bar bit to the top and then saying something like "While we're doing that..."10:47
cjwatsonPjotr: It's not supposed to.  That would be a separate problem.10:47
cjwatsonmpt: OK, I definitely won't have time for that, so I guess the question is whether we can reasonably do something intermediate10:49
cjwatsonFixing the message being shown when we aren't actually waiting for the user would be an example10:49
Pjotrsounds fine to me... :-)10:50
cjwatsonUnfortunately that code is some of the twistiest in ubiquity ...10:50
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cjwatsonMaybe http://paste.ubuntu.com/827492/ (untested)10:54
mpt"This flight is ready to depart. All other passengers are waiting for you."10:55
cjwatsonI had that for me once - I made like Linford Christie10:55
PjotrIt's a bit above my head now... Thanks for the attention that you're giving this matter. Hopefully you'll be able to fix it before Precise ships.10:55
mptcjwatson, how many steps are there after that progress bar appears? Is it just the "Who are you?", or are there others?10:59
cjwatsonEverything from location on10:59
cjwatsonSo location, keyboard, user, possibly migration and webcam, and I have a feeling I'm missing one11:01
tjaaltonis alpha1 livecd still available somewhere?11:06
mptcjwatson, I've just written half a dozen possible strings and they all suck :-)11:07
mptcjwatson, how about just hiding the black area altogether? That should be a simple GTK property, right?11:07
mptAnd then re-showing it once stuff starts happening again.11:07
cjwatsonmpt: Wasn't the worry about that that people didn't notice that we were waiting for them?11:09
cjwatsonMaybe that isn't a real concern11:09
mptcjwatson, I think the root cause is either that they see a progress bar and think that something's happening, or that they see a filled progress bar and think that everything's finished.11:09
cjwatsonWe'd want to avoid the window resizing11:10
cjwatsonLet's see.  This takes ages to test unfortunately ...11:10
cjwatsonI wonder how bad it would be to hide all the elements but keep the black area11:11
mpt(BTW I was hunting around for a screencast of the installation process to give me more context, and then realized, oh, YouTube. There's hundreds of them.)11:11
mptcjwatson, I think that would be fine.11:12
cjwatsonYeah, I don't bother keeping screencasts any more because the Internet does it for me11:12
cjwatsonIn fact the black area balances nicely with the title area, doesn't it ...11:12
cjwatsonHappy to give that a try and see what it does11:13
cjwatsonDamn, and this test requires me to sit and watch the installer because I need to see what it does just after it's finished copying files ...11:20
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dholbachseb128, salut mon ami12:03
dholbachwhat do we do with goocanvas-2.0 in the queue? :)12:04
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seb128dholbach, hey, sorry I was at lunch12:17
seb128dholbach, I was thinking about that yesterday, what about the other sources for murray? ;-)12:17
seb128didrocks, Riddell: is there any chance you could review goocanvas in source NEW? it's there since the rally and blocking some other packages to land, should be an easy enough one12:17
seb128it's basically a new version of goocanvas for gtk3 renamed12:18
didrocksseb128: pending to my list12:19
seb128didrocks, thanks12:19
didrocksyw :)12:19
dholbachseb128, which other sources?12:20
seb128dholbach, libgdamm and goocanvasmm and the glom update12:20
dholbachseb128, you mean goocanvasmm and glom? no idea - I would have to look up if there are merge proposals for them12:20
dholbachI'm a bit hard pressed for time this and part of next week12:21
seb128dholbach, I don't think there are, we should find somebody to do it though ;-)12:21
seb128dholbach, yeah, I didn't mean you need to do it12:21
dholbachmaybe a blog post or post to ubuntu-desktop?12:21
seb128dholbach, yeah, I will try to figure something out ;-)12:22
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mdeslaurmvo: mind if I upload a new software-properties?13:23
mdeslaurmvo: too late :)13:29
mvomdeslaur: please do and thanks!13:34
mdeslaurmvo: cool, thanks13:34
apwi assume the unity upload is responsible for my machines desire to remove ubuntu-desktop and unity13:47
apwand ... didn't we decide building this stuff in a PPA made more sense as it always triggers this?13:47
cjwatsonI doubt it, it failed to build on all architectures13:49
mdeslauryeah, dist-upgrade wants to remove ubuntu-desktop and unity for me too13:49
cjwatsonmore likely nux13:50
* cjwatson eyes didrocs13:51
didrockscjwatson: ABI break, unity will build as soon as bamf is published13:51
seb128it's being fixed13:51
seb128they run into new depreciations in the glib uploaded yesterday combined with -Werror13:51
seb128but yeah, having a ppa we can pocket copy from would be nice13:52
cjwatsonbamf is published now for all but armel, as far as the buildds are concerned13:52
seb128it would have been useful for the glib,gtk upload yesterday as well13:52
cjwatsonso you can retry on !armel now13:52
didrockswe should really discuss about pocket copy yeah :)13:54
LaneyThere was discussion at UDS (also in #-motu yesterday) about using proposed for this.14:19
roadmrhello! How can my (Python) app get the user's default browser (as configured in system info -> default apps) to open a URL? what's the recommended way?14:22
seb128Laney, yeah, I was in that UDS session, that would work ;-)14:22
Laneyproviding LP lets you copy down from proposed to release14:23
seb128roadmr, try using the gio g_app_info_get_default_for_type () api I guess14:24
seb128or g_app_info_get_default_for_uri_scheme()14:24
roadmrseb128: awesome! I want to open a local .xml file, I'll give those two a try14:24
cjwatsonroadmr: there's Gtk.show_uri() too14:25
roadmrcjwatson: thanks, another option to try!14:26
cjwatson>>> from gi.repository import Gtk, Gdk14:26
cjwatson>>> Gtk.show_uri(None, 'http://www.ubuntu.com/', Gdk.CURRENT_TIME)14:26
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zulpitti: its updated packages that are needed in order to get the openstack experience working together in oneiric14:30
GunnarHjcjwatson: Hello, Colin!14:35
GunnarHjcjwatson: cjwatson: Currently, if I understand it correctly, the installer sometimes sets LC_MESSAGES, LC_CTYPE and LC_COLLATE in /etc/default/locale. Considering recently uploaded changes in accountsservice and language-selector, meaning that those env. variables are no longer used, the installer should better stop doing those settings.14:36
cjwatsonGunnarHj: please file a bug, I'm going to need this written down permanently somewhere for the record14:38
cjwatsonanyway I'm not convinced14:39
cjwatsonthe installer does that for reasons outside what language-selector happens to be doing today ...14:39
cjwatson(Incidentally, I wish this would stop changing.  It's disruptive.)14:39
GunnarHjcjwatson: I'll file a bug.14:39
GunnarHjcjwatson: It's about a conceptual (hopefully final) change. LANG is now considered to represent the language, so in cases where people wants some other locale for regional formats, the formats related LC_* variables are now set explicitly.14:41
cjwatsonIn other words, even if accountsservice et al are no longer consuming those variables, that's entirely irrelevant - they're part of the POSIX locale system and affect other applications.14:41
cjwatsonIt is wrong to rely entirely on accountsservice/language-selector for that, IMO.14:42
cjwatsonThe installer sets multiple variables when it's been given information it can't just cram into LANG.14:43
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GunnarHjcjwatson: Yes, but what I'm suggesting is that it should rather set the formats related LC_* variables instead of LC_MESSAGES, LC_CTYPE and LC_COLLATE.14:44
cjwatsonOK, IRC is too narrow for this conversation.14:45
GunnarHjcjwatson: I'll try to explain it on the bug.14:46
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barryhello.  is anyone else noticing broken upgrades today on multiarch systems?16:16
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MacSlowmvo, ping16:55
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dokochrisccoulson, is it expected that libxul-dev is missing from firefox-dev?17:05
dokoehh, libxul.pc17:05
chrisccoulsondoko, yeah, nothing should be linking against our libxul. what needs it?17:06
chrisccoulsonlibxul.pc is specifically for embedders17:06
micahgpitti: they need to be tested17:16
mhall119stgraber: ping17:22
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stgrabermhall119: pong17:22
mhall119stgraber: hey, can I talk to you for a minute about the ARB's rules?17:23
stgrabermhall119: sure17:24
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mhall119stgraber: so getting 3rd party Unity lenses and scopes in software-center is a big deal17:24
mhall119but scope packages will need to depend on the lens package they work with17:25
mhall119I was told that we were going to get an exception for this, so a scope package in extras can depend on a lens package in extras17:25
mhall119has this become the official ARB policy yet?17:25
stgraberright, which they can only do if they are built from the same source or if the lens package is in the distro and not in extras17:25
mhall119so we want different people making the scopes17:26
stgraberthe only exception we approved is for one source to build multiple packages and have them depend on each other, we still don't allow two different sources in extras to build packages depending on each other17:26
mhall119so they would be in independent source packages17:26
stgraberand don't plan on allowing that17:26
mhall119ok, that's someething we need to consider, otherwise we will lose a lot of the benefit of the dash17:27
stgraberthe reason is, packages in extras need to be independent as we can pull them off at any time if they break17:27
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mhall119stgraber: can you join ubuntu-app-devel?17:28
stgraberso I'd recommend whoever submits the lens to the ARB do the work of aggregating the scopes and send us that as a single source package building multiple binary packages17:28
stgrabermhall119: can you join ubuntu-arb? :)17:28
bdrungdoko: openjdk-6 has still broken multiarch support17:40
dokochrisccoulson, icedtea-web17:41
dokobdrung, your level of detail is fantastic17:42
chrisccoulsondoko, oh, icedtea-web should definitely be using mozilla-plugin.pc :)17:42
bdrungdoko: comment #2 on bug #87916717:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 879167 in openjdk-6 (Ubuntu) "Broken multi-arch support" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87916717:43
chrisccoulsoni thought it was already though?17:43
chrisccoulsoni must have been confused17:43
chrisccoulsonsorry about that!17:43
dokoyeah, a configure check still uses libxul17:43
bdrungdoko: the order of the "grant codeBase [...]" lines matter17:43
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mdeslaurseb128: you can poke tyhicks about your ecryptfs issue19:13
slangaseksmb: hi, can you confirm that the ppa upstart still works for you with --log?  (The ppa package has --no-log as a default still)19:13
morphisanyone here knows if I can build packages for my ppa and armhf architecture?19:14
morphis(on launchpad)19:14
seb128mdeslaur, I will open a bug later, it's basically19:14
seb128 - apt-get source automake1.1119:14
seb128 cd automake1.11-1.11.119:14
seb128 ./configure && make19:14
seb128 cd tests19:14
seb128 ./distdir.test19:14
brendandmorphis - no19:14
tyhicksseb128: hi - I don't see any mentions of the problems in backscroll, so let me know what problems you're having19:14
seb128mdeslaur, tyhicks: ^19:15
seb128sorry i've to go for dinner19:15
morphisbrendand: so I have to build locally with qemu until I have a native board19:15
mdeslaurseb128: thanks19:15
seb128same issue on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/automake1.11_1.11.2.orig.tar.bz219:15
* tyhicks gives it a go19:15
seb128it fails to rm empty file in the dist dir19:15
brendandmorphis, i guess so19:15
brendandmorphis - #ubuntu-arm is a good channel for ARM questions too19:16
brendandmorphis, but i know you can't do armhf builds in a ppa19:16
morphisbrendand: #ubuntu-arm is a very good idea19:16
brendandmorphis, for that matter - can you do armel builds?19:17
morphisbrendand: hm, I coming from OpenEmbedded and currently trying to find out how I can do embedded development with debian/ubuntu19:17
morphisbrendand: I didn't tried yet19:18
morphisbrendand: I am just trying to find out all relevant details before I start with the real stuff19:18
tyhicksseb128: I've subscribed you to bug 92629219:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 926292 in linux (Ubuntu) "automake distdir.test fails because of an EPERM error" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92629219:33
tyhicksseb128: I'm heading out, but I'll try to get some time to chase down the problem this weekend19:34
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seb128tyhicks, thanks19:50
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andrejzhello! any unity developers out there?20:44
andrejzi hae a question about new string in unity 5.220:44
hallyn@pilot in20:51
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ScottKandrejz: I think #ubuntu-unity or #ubuntu-desktop would be better (I don't recall for sure).20:59
andrejzok thanks21:00
bladernr_Hey, can anyone answer a quick question about apport and /var/crash... when a crash dump is created and put into /var/crash, I've noticed that there's also a hidden lock file in /var/crash.  What creates that and why?21:08
bladernr_nm... found an answer in apport changelog21:10
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hallynhi everyone - I've tested and verified (and 'Approved') https://code.launchpad.net/~jtaylor/ubuntu/oneiric/subversion/sasl-crash-881862/+merge/85228 .  I don't have the rights to actually upload it.  Is someone around who can finish that off?21:20
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hallynroaksoax: ^21:59
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dobeyayone around?22:56
dobeywho should i subscribe to a bug to upload a new source package (which replaces an existing source)?22:56
jtaylorhallyn: micahg wanted to do that soonish23:00
jtaylorthanks for testing ig23:00
hallyndobey: hi, i think you can subscribe "ubuntu-sponsors"23:01
dobeyhallyn: thanks23:01
hallynjtaylor: ok (np)  I just don't have the rights to actually upload it to the archive, or i'd finish it up right now23:02
jtaylorme neither, and for some reason sponsors don't like me, I have 3 of the top 9 oldest things in the queue :(23:03
hallynjtaylor: well you scare me with the 'multiarch' one - that's nothing personal, i'm just a wuss :)23:07
jtayloryes thats an uglyone :/23:07
hallynjtaylor: tbh i was hoping stgraber or slangasek would look at that one.  but maybe i should man up...23:07
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hallynjtaylor: so with the multiarch one - you say oneiric has been patched to work around it.  precise's too?  so you actually want that merged into lp:ubuntu/natty/python-numpy (not lp:ubuntu/python-numpy)?  Or am i misreading?23:30
jtaylorno I actually wanted a fix in oneiric but it was to late in the cycle23:32
jtaylorso instead the rdepends where patched23:32
jtaylorthis is now prettymuch to fix it for non packaged stuff23:32
jtaylorthough now its pretty much as late as it was when I wanted it in oneiric :/23:32
slangasekwe're still before ff23:33
jtaylorits noot even a new feature just a minimal (ugly) workaround23:34
slangasekmy point is that it's not currently late at all23:34
hallynjtaylor: I'm wondering if something more like https://launchpadlibrarian.net/78315456/libxaw-1.0.9.multiarch.diff could be done (to make it - i hope - more standard - i don't judge ugliness when it comes to x stuff)23:35
hallyni.e. --libdir=\$${prefix}/lib/$(DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH) passed to confgure in debian/rules23:35
jtaylorits the issue of the buildsystem numpy *provides* for other stuff23:36
cjwatsonif any MIR team folks are still around, debtags and java-atk-wrapper are currently on the list for promotion to main; I've seen at least debtags breaking image builds and java-atk-wrapper looks like a possibility for that too23:36
cjwatsonI'd like not to leave image builds broken over the weekend23:36
jtaylorso it must now the triplet of the host its used on not where numpy wasy built on23:36
slangasekjava-atk-wrapper is breaking builds already, yes23:37
slangasekjdstrand: ^^ are you up for some MIRs?23:37
cjwatsonthe other three source promotions look like they can wait23:37
slangasekI had perhaps wrongly assumed that since doko did the upload that pulled java-atk-wrapper in, and he has strong opinions about prepromotions, he might have gotten the MIR done first ;)23:37
jdstrandslangasek: I have about 10 in my queue assigned to me. I was dealing with some important updates today. I won't get to them until monday23:38
cjwatson*shocked face*23:38
jdstrandslangasek: if you want to assign it to me-- I have an appt in a few minutes23:38
slangasekI actually don't see an MIR open for java-atk-wrapper23:38
slangasekperhaps it's already marked closed?23:38
cjwatsonneither have bugs open according to component-mismatches23:38
hallynjtaylor: I'm trying to use your "ldd -r /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/kiva/agg/_plat_support.so" to verify it's broken, but i don't get the break.  I'm sorry I'm being dense, but is there any other quick recipe I can use to verify?23:39
cjwatsonoh, wait, java-atk-wrapper just vanished from c-m23:39
jtaylorhallyn: this library is from which package?23:39
cjwatsonmoving targets FTW23:39
jtaylorhallyn: version, the one in oneiric and precise have been fixed23:40
jtaylorhallyn: you have to compile the natty package on oneiric to get the broken version23:40
cjwatsonso it's just debtags23:40
hallynjtaylor: oh *that*'s what you were saying.23:40
slangasekright, bug #849729 was the MIR for j-a-w23:40
hallynjtaylor: off to try again23:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 849729 in java-atk-wrapper (Ubuntu) "[MIR] java-atk-wrapper" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84972923:40
jtaylorhallyn: with this numpy the workaround applied to enable is not necessary anymore23:41
jtaylorhallyn: it will then find the multiarched libraries and link them correctly23:41
hallynjtaylor: thanks, got it.  fetching to build...23:42
slangasekcjwatson: maybe it's better to push a s-c that drops debtags for now?23:42
cjwatsondunno - debtags was in main in hardy23:43
slangasekthen hmm23:43
cjwatsonwhich is a while back,but23:43
cjwatsondue to adept-common23:43
hallynjinkeys: bzr just segfaulted while trying that merge23:43
* cjwatson looks at what s-c is doing23:44
* slangasek teaches ureadahead about /run23:44
cjwatsonwuh, I thought I'd done that23:44
cjwatsonbah, changed locally 2011-10-22, never committed :-(23:45
* slangasek nods23:45
cjwatsons-c actually copes if debtags is missing - it's in a try/except23:46
slangasekstrangely, my /var/log/upstart/ureadahead.log complains about lots of symlinks that seem to be from under proc... I wonder if those should be filtered out at an earlier stage23:46
cjwatsonthough it looks like a fairly deliberate addition23:47
cjwatsonby mvo23:47
* slangasek nods23:47
cjwatsondefinite feature work here23:47
slangasekhah, there's an interesting question.  should ureadahead force a reprofile when the only package that's changing under /etc/init is itself?23:48
slangasek(ureadahead doesn't reprofile on upgrade, because triggers don't apply to self->package)23:48
cjwatsonmm, postinst configure is usually meant to be a superset of postinst triggered, I believe23:49
cjwatsonI think it should - omitting /run from the pack is a good example of something that should cause reprofiling23:50
cjwatsonor it might even change its pack format23:50
* slangasek nods23:50
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