karni | joshuahoover: duanedesign: re bikerboi87 ↑ if any of you is around | 01:36 |
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bikerboi87 | karni: :) | 01:36 |
karni | bikerboi87: If nobody replies, please drop by tomorrow, a little earlier than around now :) | 01:36 |
karni | bikerboi87: We have a bunch of helpful support guys here, I'm sure they'll figure out what's up with that, Sorry for the trouble. | 01:37 |
bikerboi87 | karni: It's not so much that something is wrong, just it'll save me money :P | 01:37 |
karni | bikerboi87: Whatever the amount, if something's wrong, we'd like to know :) I can see they're not around anymore. Please do come back tomorrow and catch them earlier :) | 01:38 |
bikerboi87 | karni: cheers :) | 01:39 |
karni | o/ | 01:39 |
karni | :) | 01:39 |
JamesTait | Happy Friday, everyone! :D | 09:26 |
mandel | morning all! | 09:27 |
ralsina | Good morning! | 12:05 |
ralsina | mandel: ping | 12:06 |
mandel | ralsina, pong!! | 12:07 |
mandel | ralsina, buenos dias! | 12:07 |
ralsina | Hello mandel, can we have the 1-1 early? I have somewhere else I need to be ;-) | 12:08 |
mandel | ralsina, sure, do you want to do it now? | 12:09 |
mandel | ralsina, unless there is anything else, I can take a rest from coding :) | 12:09 |
ralsina | mandel: cool, also I can test this mumble-on-linux thing :-) | 12:09 |
mandel | ralsina, ok, launching mumble now | 12:11 |
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alecu | hello #ubuntuoners! | 13:29 |
mandel | alecu, buenos dias! | 13:32 |
gatox | buenas | 13:32 |
mandel | ditto | 13:32 |
alecu | hola mandel! can I ask for your review here? https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntu-sso-client/post-restful-cleanups/+merge/91157 | 13:33 |
mandel | alecu, yes, although will have to wait for my lunch, is that ok? | 13:35 |
alecu | mandel, sure! | 13:35 |
mandel | alecu, then is mine! | 13:35 |
mandel | alecu, gatox are you guys still sprinting? | 13:40 |
gatox | mandel, yes | 13:41 |
mandel | gatox, cool, have fun the last day ;) | 13:41 |
mandel | gatox, so, not doing FF right? 'cause I don't have the time today :( | 13:41 |
gatox | mandel, yesterday we had the team dinner....... LOT OF MEAT | 13:41 |
mandel | lol | 13:41 |
gatox | mandel, me neither | 13:41 |
mandel | gatox, probe nessita .. not meat for her ;) | 13:41 |
mandel | gatox, great, no problems then, I'm off to lunch catch you when I'm back | 13:42 |
gatox | mandel, ack! enjoy | 13:42 |
gatox | nessita, this one is fix: https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntu-sso-client/pages-migration/+merge/91331 | 13:57 |
nessita | gatox: awesome! | 13:57 |
dobey | hmm | 14:01 |
mpt | Hi, I'm trying to reproduce a bug ... What do I need to delete for Ubuntu One to forget completely that I'm signed in to SSO? | 14:07 |
nessita | mpt: hello there! | 14:07 |
mpt | hi nessita | 14:07 |
karni | mpt: What platform are you talking about? | 14:07 |
nessita | mpt: using the control panel, go to the Devices tab and remove the current device (the one tha has the bandwidth options) | 14:08 |
mpt | karni, if this is in reference to my recent tweet about Canonicalers who ask me what OS I'm using, then ... well played :-) | 14:08 |
karni | mpt: I meant desktop/Android/iOS. | 14:08 |
mpt | Ubuntu | 14:08 |
karni | mpt: then nessita's answer is the right one :) | 14:09 |
mpt | ah, thanks nessita | 14:09 |
karni | nessita: Hi! Referring to ""Only twisted Deferreds are used in this code, but only as a control structure in order to make the sequence of callbacks cleaner, and to ease testing with trial."" -- could you tell me what you mean by "ease testing with trial" in the context of callbacks? | 14:09 |
nessita | karni: sure! can you give me a couple of minutes? | 14:10 |
karni | nessita: Perhaps what I mean exactly is - how callback based code is better than blocking code. | 14:10 |
karni | nessita: Sure, any time! Thank you. | 14:10 |
karni | (.. than blocking code, in terms of testing) | 14:10 |
nessita | karni: so, since we use twisted trial testing framework, we can't have clocking code in the test, because that will prevent the twisted reactor to process events | 14:14 |
nessita | karni: and in the production code side, we can't also have blocking code since that will freeze any involved UI | 14:15 |
karni | nessita: Ah, so it's like you're working on the UI thread, and dispatching events. That would make total sense, thank you! | 14:15 |
nessita | karni: yes, exactly | 14:15 |
karni | nessita: :) Thanks | 14:16 |
nessita | anytime! | 14:16 |
nessita | mpt: did that work ok? | 14:16 |
mpt | nessita, yes thank you, it helped me report bug 926078 | 14:17 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 926078 in ubuntuone-control-panel (Ubuntu) "Control panel looks like it's hung when waiting for sign-on (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/926078 | 14:17 |
mpt | nessita, I was actually trying to reproduce bug 760624, which seemed to be closed by mistake, but I couldn't invoke that particular error. | 14:18 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 760624 in ubuntuone-control-panel (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Error message cuts off before end (affects: 2) (heat: 3)" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/760624 | 14:18 |
nessita | mpt: thanks for the report. So, the currently dark grey was a design spec for the controlpanel, and I | 14:18 |
nessita | and we're dropping the support for the GTK controlpanel :-/ | 14:19 |
dobey | mpt: i think that particular string was amde shorter, but would likely still be an issue for other languages | 14:19 |
mpt | nessita, I thought this was already Qt, which was why it isn't integrated propertly into System Settings | 14:20 |
nessita | mpt: thanks a lot for taking the time to report the bug though :-) | 14:20 |
nessita | mpt: nopes, the Qt controlpanel is not on ubuntu yet, should be this incoming week | 14:20 |
dobey | mpt: what does "integrated properly into system settings" mean exactly now? | 14:20 |
mpt | dobey, the panel opening in the System Settings window, like (for example) the Backup panel does and the Privacy panel will | 14:21 |
dobey | mpt: afaik, we've been given no requirements that we have to do that, and we have no plans to do so. hmm | 14:23 |
nessita | dobey: our bosses had tha conversationin orlando with jason w (cristian and john were there), and they agreed that the platform team my remove U1 completely from the settings window | 14:25 |
nessita | dobey: I'm not sure what the current plan is on the platform side, but we have no resources allocated for integrating with gnome settings for precise | 14:26 |
nessita | (mainly FYI) | 14:26 |
gatox | nessita, fixed..... i check the other files just in case, and they should be fine | 14:27 |
dobey | right. though it seems "language support" and "additional drivers" open as separate apps still as well | 14:27 |
nessita | dobey: right | 14:27 |
nessita | gatox: ack! | 14:27 |
* mandel back | 15:02 | |
nessita | ralsina: you around? | 15:03 |
dobey | oh | 15:05 |
dobey | ralsina, mandel: are we doing standup? or no? | 15:05 |
mandel | dobey, we have not done it in all week.. so is kinda meh | 15:09 |
dobey | indeed | 15:09 |
mandel | dobey, I have done my 1-1 with ralsina an hour ago, so he know what I'm up to | 15:09 |
nessita | mandel: any idea if ralsina is around? | 15:25 |
mandel | nessita, afaik he told me had to me somewhere (no idea where) about now, that is the reason why we had my 1-1 earlier | 15:25 |
mandel | nessita, that is all the info I have, sorry if is not very helpful :( | 15:25 |
nessita | mandel: is ok | 15:26 |
gatox | nessita, well, the sso-migration should be ok..... and i review it with meld | 15:28 |
nessita | gatox: ack! :-D | 15:31 |
ralsina | nessita: I am here | 15:37 |
nessita | ralsina: hola | 15:38 |
mandel | alecu, ping | 15:44 |
alecu | mandel, ponga | 15:44 |
mandel | alecu, I've done your review (running tests at the moment on windows) I have an idea/question, the restful_client, could we don something nice with the with statement? | 15:45 |
mandel | alecu, I'm notice that we close it all the time, maybe using with would make it a nicer | 15:45 |
mandel | alecu, of course, not for this review | 15:46 |
alecu | mandel, I wondered about using "with", yes. But it thought it added complexity... perhaps we can do it in a later branch, yes. | 15:46 |
alecu | and... yes. | 15:46 |
mandel | alecu, +1 on doing it later :) | 15:46 |
mandel | alecu, and +1 on the branch! | 15:46 |
alecu | mandel, cool! | 15:46 |
alecu | mandel, I think I have not really ran tests on windows, so great that you are testing that too. | 15:47 |
alecu | shame on me, yes. | 15:47 |
mandel | alecu, I do both all the time, that is also the reason why I did the work on jenkins :) | 15:47 |
mandel | alecu, so, if you are lazy and forget, we will see (well, at least in sso, the others fail atm :P) | 15:48 |
mandel | alecu, FYI https://jenkins.errormessaging.com/view/Windows/ | 15:50 |
alecu | mandel, it's very nice! but we should definitely get the Chuck Norris plugin back into jenkins | 15:54 |
ralsina | we should get a real SSL certificate. And put it under one.ubuntu.com, too ;-) | 15:55 |
mandel | ralsina, +1 on that hehe | 15:56 |
mandel | alecu, and +1000000 for Chuck Norris! | 15:56 |
ralsina | You don't get the Chuck Norris plugin into jenkins. Chuck Norris is in jenkins if he wants to. | 15:57 |
ralsina | mandel: two suns! yay! | 15:57 |
mandel | ralsina, yes, and a 3 one should be there soon, u1-client is an easy fix | 15:59 |
ralsina | having RSS feeds on a jenkins that is locked behind SSO is quite useless :-( | 16:11 |
dobey | welcome to the wonderful world of oauth | 16:11 |
dobey | isn't it awesome? | 16:11 |
ralsina | dobey: yay | 16:12 |
dobey | whee, new u1client uploaded to ubuntu | 16:13 |
dobey | think i'll get lunch, then deal with the libu1 changes and getting rhythmbox-ubuntuone in | 16:13 |
dobey | and then gwibber | 16:13 |
dobey | ralsina: you could write a fairly simply local proxy app which does the oauth bits and gives you the RSS, and have your RSS reader point at it | 16:14 |
ralsina | dobey: I may as well click on the RSS on firefox while authenticated, since that shows it correctly, and look every once in a while | 16:14 |
ralsina | dobey: probably same effort over the next year ;-) | 16:15 |
dobey | eh | 16:15 |
dobey | holy wtf | 16:15 |
dobey | compiz or unity or maybe x now, just really does not like it when you switch to a VT and then back | 16:16 |
dobey | time to switch to twm | 16:16 |
ralsina | dobey: that's X. Depends on the driver | 16:19 |
dobey | sigh | 16:21 |
dobey | alright. lunch time | 16:23 |
dobey | bbiab | 16:23 |
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dobey | lol. mandel's mixed metaphors are great | 17:19 |
mandel | dobey, which one? | 17:19 |
mandel | I'm kinda aggressive with the u1-client code today :P | 17:20 |
dobey | the dinosaur egg ... butterfly effect comment | 17:20 |
mandel | hehe | 17:21 |
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dobey | wth; i just chose "Classic GNOME" on my laptop… and got unity 2d, seemingly running under compiz | 17:47 |
mandel | dobey, report that as a bug to translations, the probably mean 'classy gnome' http://www.kbear.fm/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/gnome.jpg | 17:49 |
nessita | dobey: surprise! :-P | 17:49 |
dobey | spandex, it's a privelege, not a right. | 17:51 |
mandel | lol | 17:53 |
dobey | at least it wasn't an overfat long-haired leaping gnome though | 17:54 |
nessita | dobey: I think I need your u1client branch... is it landed? | 18:05 |
duanedesign | mandel: can you run the u1sdtool in Windows? | 18:05 |
dobey | nessita: it's not | 18:06 |
dobey | let me poke at that | 18:06 |
nessita | dobey: awesome, thanks. ANother question: do we know if the twisted version that has your reactor will be, eventually, in P? | 18:06 |
dobey | nessita: i am hoping it will. i'll have to check on that, and do the requested documention update for twisted as well. | 18:07 |
dobey | nessita: if it's not, though, i want to get it in as a patch | 18:08 |
nessita | dobey: right. I was thinking that I may need to upload the tweak twisted yo our O nightlies.... for example, gatox_lunch can no longer run the sso tests :-/ | 18:08 |
nessita | dobey: and even though the twisted should be updated officially in trunk, I don't think they'll provide that in older releases, no? | 18:08 |
nessita | officially in P, I meant | 18:09 |
dobey | why is gatox_lunch still running O? | 18:09 |
dobey | the new twisted probably won't get backported, no | 18:09 |
nessita | dobey: he did not have time to update. And there will be more people in O and perhaps N (though they should update, yes) | 18:09 |
nessita | dobey: for example, u1 server guys... or foundations guys, they may migrate in the future | 18:10 |
dobey | nessita: right, and new sso probably won't work on all the old releases | 18:10 |
nessita | dobey: my point is, that when your u1client branch lands that uses the gi reactor, devs will not be able to run the suite anymore if they are not in P, no? | 18:11 |
dobey | well in u1client the tests can be run with the glib reactor instead of gi, but make check doesn't do it | 18:11 |
dobey | u1client has no ui, so having it work with both wasn't as big a problem | 18:12 |
mandel | duanedesign, yes, you can | 18:12 |
duanedesign | aha | 18:12 |
dobey | i wonder what is killing tarmac though | 18:13 |
nessita | dobey: so, u1trial --reactor=glib will work, but make check will only work on P? | 18:19 |
dobey | yes | 18:19 |
dobey | well you don't need to pass --reactor to use the glib reactor as it's the default, but yes | 18:19 |
nessita | dobey: ok, if make check will break for systems older than P, we should send an email to the list... or provide the custom twisted in our PPA | 18:22 |
dobey | i am very hesitant about shipping new twisted on older versions of ubuntu in our ppa | 18:24 |
nessita | dobey: any particular reason? | 18:24 |
dobey | it's big and complex and people may be using it for other things, and i don't want to break them | 18:24 |
nessita | dobey: fair enough, would you please send an email to the list letting people know that? (make check will not work on < P, and we don't ship custom twisted to < P because of what you said) | 18:25 |
dobey | what's really going to suck is the whole "let's make trunk of everything work on old ubuntu versions that we have to support" | 18:26 |
nessita | dobey: i know. But that's a problem for 2 weeks from now, approx | 18:28 |
ralsina | dobey: could we ship a copy in a different namespace? | 18:29 |
dobey | i don't want to think about it right now | 18:29 |
ralsina | dobey: fair enough | 18:29 |
dobey | my brain is already starting to implode from the idea of it :) | 18:29 |
nessita | dobey: would you please remind me how can I confirm if I package is in the CD? I remember I should check the MANIFEST file, but can't find it (I'm looking in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/) | 18:34 |
nessita | ah! found it | 18:34 |
nessita | was in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-amd64/current/images/ | 18:34 |
nessita | hum no | 18:35 |
dobey | you're looking in the wrong place :) | 18:35 |
dobey | cdimage.ubuntu.com | 18:35 |
nessita | dobey: :-) | 18:35 |
dobey | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ | 18:35 |
nessita | perfect | 18:36 |
dobey | the .manifest files lists all the packages for each build | 18:36 |
nessita | was checking that python-zope.interface is there, since sso is adding that | 18:36 |
nessita | (as new dep, we may drop it again soon) | 18:36 |
nessita | (just like twisted-web) | 18:36 |
dobey | hrmm | 18:36 |
dobey | it is there | 18:37 |
dobey | actually, twisted itself depends on it :) | 18:37 |
nessita | yes | 18:37 |
nessita | right | 18:37 |
nessita | but wanted to be 100% sure | 18:37 |
nessita | dobey: I'll start uploading sso now | 18:37 |
dobey | ok | 18:38 |
mandel | twisted does use zope.interface A LOT so we are not to blame :) | 18:38 |
dobey | yes it does | 18:38 |
dobey | the reactors use it :) | 18:38 |
mandel | and protocols etc.. | 18:38 |
nessita | dobey: you let me know when u1client is uploaded? I need to confirm, but I think this release of cp depends on u1client for real (not for consistency) | 18:42 |
nessita | dobey: also, question. What would happen if I upload a package where some dependency is higher than the one available in the repo? | 18:43 |
dobey | mandel: hey, i got a proposal too from a spammer. it's in portuguese! | 18:43 |
dobey | nessita: u1client 2.99.3 is uplaoded already | 18:44 |
dobey | nessita: i did it this morning | 18:44 |
nessita | dobey: great, thanks | 18:44 |
dobey | nessita: if you upload and set the dependency on something higher than is currently available, the build will sit in depwait until the new dep is available | 18:44 |
nessita | dobey: ok, and that's ok? or is something I should try to avoid? | 18:45 |
mandel | dobey, is going to be a greeeeeeeeat weekend.. | 18:45 |
mandel | where are my frosties? I need sugar!! | 18:45 |
dobey | nessita: it's not horrible, but we should try to avoid it in general | 18:45 |
nessita | dobey: I have another question, if you have a couple of more minutes | 18:45 |
nessita | (re packaging) | 18:45 |
dobey | nessita: sure. i am switching between irc and other terminal and email and launchpad anyway :) | 18:46 |
nessita | dobey: next sso relesae should generate at least 3 binaries (or 4). Do I need to do something special in that case? so far a single source generates a single binary. And I ask rearding procedure, not about adding the .install files | 18:47 |
nessita | 3 or 4 binary packages, I meant | 18:47 |
dobey | nessita: it will build, but not publish, until an admin approves it. it will sit in BIN NEW until approved | 18:48 |
nessita | dobey: do I have to let someone know before that? after that? | 18:48 |
dobey | probably good to poke someone. fwiw, i am about to have the same issue with libu1 and the rb plug-in | 18:49 |
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nessita | dobey: ack to that. So, one more: I modified my GPG key so my ubuntu email address is the primary one, but I just saw that the ubuntu-sso-cliemt that I uploaded was under the canonical address :-/ any idea why? | 19:02 |
nessita | and, shall I fix that somehow? | 19:02 |
nessita | (ie making another dput for -0ubuntu2) | 19:04 |
dobey | no, don't need to do that | 19:05 |
nessita | ok, I'm re checking my gpg signature | 19:05 |
dobey | your gpg key isn't the issue | 19:05 |
nessita | and my DEBMAIL as well | 19:05 |
alecu | gatox, nessita, ralsina, dobey: my week would end perfectly if I can get two reviews on this branch: https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntu-sso-client/the-compleat-libsoup/+merge/91481 | 19:05 |
alecu | care to help me? | 19:05 |
dobey | DEBMAIL is the issue | 19:05 |
nessita | dobey: ok, found the issue, I changed my DEBMAIL in my PC but not here, already changed | 19:05 |
ralsina | alecu: queued | 19:05 |
gatox | alecu, on it! | 19:06 |
mandel | ok, EOD, EOW for me, oh and EOL | 19:11 |
gatox | mandel, eol? | 19:12 |
mandel | gatox, end of line, a really bad joke | 19:13 |
gatox | jejejejeje | 19:13 |
mandel | really really bad.. | 19:13 |
dobey | MCP | 19:13 |
gatox | mandel, in galactica the hybrids say it all the time | 19:13 |
* dobey hits mandel with a light cycle | 19:13 | |
mandel | lol | 19:14 |
mandel | all, have a great weekend, if you are in europe, don't leave the house.. i like -10 everywhere but spain where is -1 :P | 19:14 |
dobey | why do i have such a desire to get a second monitor now | 19:19 |
alecu | bye mandel! buenas noches! | 19:20 |
briancurtin2 | dobey: three monitors is the best | 19:24 |
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dobey | briancurtin: i'll be lucky if i can even find 1 more of this model, let alone 2 | 19:25 |
dobey | and i think it's a bit too big to have 3 of them on my desk anyway | 19:25 |
briancurtin | if you ever get four monitors, i will give you a 2x2 stand for free (been trying to get rid of it for 2 years) | 19:31 |
gatox | alecu, +1 | 19:32 |
dobey | i doubt i will do that | 19:33 |
ralsina | alecu: your week just ended perfectly. But you still have to work 90 more minutes. Paradox! | 19:34 |
alecu | yay! | 19:35 |
alecu | ralsina, I've just found another bug around there, so I'll do a bit of time travelling. | 19:35 |
alecu | *traveling | 19:35 |
ralsina | alecu: ack | 19:35 |
dobey | meh, i am not going to get to poke at gwibber today either am i :( | 20:11 |
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nessita | dobey: guess what! packaging question (last one, I'd guess) :-) | 20:55 |
dobey | heh | 20:55 |
nessita | dobey: so, I uploaded controlpanel, and this was the accepted email: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/828071/ | 20:55 |
nessita | dobey: the changed by is correct (@ubuntu.com), but the signed by is @canonical | 20:56 |
dobey | nessita: ok | 20:56 |
nessita | any idea why? | 20:56 |
dobey | nessita: when you reconfigured your gpg key, did you upload the changes back to the keyserver? | 20:56 |
alecu | EOS! | 21:02 |
alecu | bye all! | 21:02 |
nessita | dobey: sorry, power went off thanks to facundo. Awnser is no :-) | 21:09 |
nessita | dobey: I will upload the changes to the sevrer | 21:09 |
dobey | nessita: ah, that might be why. i never paid attention to that myself. only if the mail says accepted/rejected/pending/whatever :) | 21:10 |
nessita | ;-) | 21:10 |
nessita | dobey: you know how can I update my key in the server? | 21:10 |
dobey | there's some way to send to server in seahorse | 21:12 |
dobey | i think you have to make sure the ubuntu server is selected | 21:12 |
dobey | or i think you can do do gpg --send-to-server --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com or something like that | 21:12 |
ralsina | EOW for me. I will look at things later tonight, so if anyone needs a late review, mail me, I'll do it. | 21:14 |
ralsina | EOW for me. I will look at things later tonight, so if anyone needs a late review, mail me, I'll do it. | 21:14 |
ralsina | oops | 21:14 |
nessita | dobey: that worked :-) | 21:17 |
nessita | dobey: is this ready to re-approve? https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-client/gi-support/+merge/90227 | 21:18 |
dobey | nessita: yes, though i haven't sent an e-mail yet :) | 21:18 |
nessita | dobey: I need to propose a branch that depends on that one... shall I approve and you send the email before you eod? I don't think anyone will be running client tests until next week | 21:19 |
dobey | sure | 21:19 |
dobey | man, you'd think it be easier to find a 2 year old lcd monitor, but alas | 21:26 |
gatox | dobey, nessita is having internet issues | 21:27 |
gatox | and EOD for me! | 21:28 |
dobey | gatox: of course. it's that time of day where she has internet issues :) | 21:28 |
gatox | dobey, jejejee right | 21:28 |
nessita | ok | 21:29 |
nessita | net issues! | 21:29 |
nessita | anyways, is EOD for me | 21:29 |
dobey | heh | 21:29 |
nessita | bye all! | 21:29 |
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tom95 | is there any documentation on how to sync notes with ubuntu one, preferably for vala or c? | 21:43 |
dobey | notes are synced using the snowy api | 21:45 |
dobey | so you'd have to implement that in your app | 21:45 |
dobey | you could use the websync plug-in in tomboy as a reference | 21:46 |
dobey | i don't think there's a c/vala lib to do snowy | 21:46 |
tom95 | dobey: uh... are all those files here http://git.gnome.org/browse/tomboy/tree/Tomboy/Addins/WebSyncService required just for ubuntu one note sync or do you know if it can be simpler? :/ | 21:50 |
dobey | well i'm sure they're required in tomboy | 21:52 |
dobey | i'mr esure you wouldn't need them in vala, since it's not mono. | 21:52 |
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