[00:51] <astraljava> Are recommends installed by default these days? gnome-panel might do it, if yes.
[00:51] <knome> yup, they are
[00:51] <knome> since what, few releases at least...
[00:52] <astraljava> Well, there you have it, then.
[00:52] <knome> add it to the comments, then ;)
[00:52] <knome> well, i suppose i know it being gnome-panel
[00:52] <knome> *knew
[00:52] <astraljava> I don't care, I won't need it. :)
[00:53] <astraljava> And I'm not _that_ karma-hungry. :D
[00:53] <knome> mrr
[03:13] <micahg> knome: that's why we don't ship it
[03:14] <knome> ship what?
[03:14] <knome> alacarte
[03:14] <knome> right
[03:14] <knome> :)
[03:15] <micahg> it needs a file from gnome-menus to function, that's why it does that
[03:15] <knome> does gnome-menus pull unity? :P
[03:16] <micahg> wait, it's gnome-panel that does it, idr, what the issue was, we went through it last cycle
[03:16] <knome> mmh
[03:16] <knome> whatever it is, i think this should be fixed
[03:17] <knome> packaging-wise
[03:17] <micahg> not sure if that's possible, we have to see why gnome-panel is a recommends
[03:18] <knome> mm, sure
[03:18] <knome> just added a bug to be able to follow up on that
[03:20] <pleia2> I think I'd rather have people submit bugs against the website (rather than email -devel)
[03:21]  * pleia2 works on doc
[03:21] <knome> pleia2, fine by me
[03:21] <knome> :)
[03:21] <knome> didn't really think of that
[03:21] <pleia2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/xubuntu-website/+filebug ftw
[03:23] <j1mc> xubuntu alpha 222222! yeay.
[03:23] <knome> ugh nvm that one
[03:23] <Unit193> knome: I just hate when they subscribe a list
[03:23] <knome> j1mc, wow, that's a lot of alphas!!! did we skip the first 222221 ?
[03:23] <pleia2> made a couple little edits, but I think it's great otherwise, thanks knome :)
[03:25]  * knome AAAAAAAAAAAARGHS
[03:25] <knome> way too late :((
[03:27]  * micahg wonders if a mouche is a shorter version of a moustache
[03:27] <knome> or mouse+touch?
[03:28] <pleia2> knome: soon it'll be early!
[03:28] <knome> anyway, going to bed :)
[03:28] <knome> yeah i know! :(
[03:28] <j1mc> knome: you have gotten done more than you know.
[03:28] <pleia2> good night :)
[03:28] <j1mc> good night, knome 
[03:28] <knome> j1mc, always ;)
[03:28] <knome> nini and have a nice day you lot
[03:30] <knome> ->
[06:05] <pleia2> http://www.xubuntu.org/
[06:05] <pleia2> it is done :D!!!!
[06:06] <Unit193> Awesomeness!!!
[06:06] <Unit193> Now I can ping you again if I see errors ;)
[06:06] <pleia2> haha
[06:06] <pleia2> report bugs!
[06:07] <Unit193> I hate that :(
[06:07] <Unit193> It's owned bt Canonical? Alrighty
[06:11] <Unit193> So, can you hotlink/tag the FAQ for direct link? (As in http://www.xubuntu.org/news/faq-1110-oneiric#compiz or #menus)
[06:11] <pleia2> not as it's written now
[06:12] <Unit193> Darnie (And I'm giving you less congrats and more questions :( )
[06:21] <pleia2> Unit193: I am going to bed soon :P
[06:21] <pleia2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/xubuntu-website/+filebug
[06:21] <pleia2> :)
[06:21] <Unit193> So I should stop looking at the pages?
[06:22] <pleia2> maybe give us a day to celebrate before more work?
[06:22] <pleia2> filing bugs would be good, I can look at those as I have time
[06:23] <Unit193> Yes ma'am! I'll see if I can force astraljava to "find" them ;)
[06:23] <pleia2> hehe
[06:24] <pleia2> finding bugs on the site is helpful, I appreciate it, but I really am headed to bed, long day
[06:25] <Unit193> Have a good rest! (Danit, found deadlinks :...( )
[06:25] <pleia2> bug report!
[06:25] <pleia2> good night
[07:45]  * pleia2 fails at sleep
[07:45] <pleia2> Unit193: shoot
[07:45] <Unit193> Wrong channel.... And ready/wanting to kill?
[07:46] <pleia2> right channel! we do web devel here too :)
[07:47] <Unit193> http://pastebin.com/CTFN83cK my basic notes :P
[07:48] <pleia2> thanks :)
[07:48] <pleia2> doh, it's ubuntu-docs
[07:48] <Unit193> Err... Forget the last part....
[07:48] <pleia2> I don't actually know how we do translations
[07:48] <Unit193> I went like a monkey and clicked links 'til Aurora got slow :D
[07:48] <pleia2> haha
[07:50] <pleia2> want me to just submit bugs as I encounter ones I don't know how to fix myself, or would you like the bug submitting fun?
[07:50] <Unit193> I really hate it, but I'll do it as I really should :/
[07:51] <Unit193> I'm supposed to help, not just dump on others :P
[07:51] <pleia2> thank you :)
[07:51] <pleia2> submit one about the rosetta link, I don't know if we use that, or what the proper alt url is
[07:53] <Unit193> Anything I can actually help with?
[07:53]  * pleia2 hunts down https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Documentation/Wiki/ToDo
[07:57] <pleia2> that wasn't so bad, all sorted :)
[07:58] <pleia2> we're actually going to rewrite all the contribute/ stuff and do a sweep of the Xubuntu/* stuff on the wiki, lots of scattered information
[07:59] <Unit193> Bug #925912 not really the best, but reported
[07:59] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 925912 in Xubuntu Website "On the "Translation and Localization" page, "Rosetta translation system" redirects" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/925912
[08:00] <Unit193> You also could have made me hunt for it like I should have :P
[08:07] <pleia2> thanks for reporting it :)
[08:08] <Unit193> Yeppers, now I'm not sure if I should try to find more, or ignore them ;)
[08:08] <pleia2> haha
[08:08] <Unit193> (Though, I'm pretty sure I was supposed to do this before :P )
[08:08] <pleia2> mhmm
[09:36] <knome> Unit193, fixed
[09:36] <Unit193> Heyhey! Quick one
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[09:36] <knome> yeah
[09:37] <knome> fixed at http://www.xubuntu.org/contribute/translating/ ;]
[09:37] <Unit193> Heh, that's an interesting link
[09:53] <knome> ok, i'm off. keep filing bugs if you hit them, and i'll fix them later today if possible
[09:59] <Unit193> Heh
[09:59] <Unit193> 04:59 I'm not even looking
[11:24] <astraljava> Unit193: Well, I could take a look at it on w3m.
[11:25] <astraljava> Unit193: Why do you hate filing bugs?
[16:57] <pleia2> knome: want me to publish the website blog post?
[17:03] <knome> i was just about to do that when my nose started dripping on blood ;)
[17:05] <pleia2> no fun!
[17:05] <knome> yeah, not really
[17:05] <pleia2> updating the feed for planet
[17:05] <knome> so yeah, it's fine :)
[17:05] <knome> to publish, i mean ;)
[17:06] <pleia2> great
[17:06] <knome> maybe come up with an interesting title
[17:06] <knome> "An adventure near too far!"
[17:06] <knome> ;)
[17:06] <pleia2> hmm
[17:06] <knome> or so
[17:06] <pleia2> hehe
[17:06] <knome> try to make the latest news a bit more lively
[17:06] <knome> not just "Xubuntu nn released"
[17:07] <knome> ;)
[17:07] <knome> ×5...
[17:10] <knome> huh
[17:10] <knome> http://www.xubuntu.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/x4.png
[17:10] <knome> sometimes returns "page not found" ...
[17:13] <pleia2> hmm
[17:21] <knome> replied to the RT ticket
=== yofel_ is now known as yofel
[17:26] <pleia2> Finally, thanks to the following people who helped make this happen: Pasi Lallinaho (knome), Elizabeth Krumbach (pleia2), Mad Nick (madnick), Bruno A. Benitez (GridCube), Phil Whitaker (beardygnome) and Steve Dodier (SiDi)
[17:26] <pleia2> is that everyone?
[17:27] <knome> Simon Steinbeiß (ochosi)
[17:28] <knome> ... and all the others who helped us testing the site or gave any feedback.
[17:28] <pleia2> oh yes, Unit193 over there
[17:28] <knome> heh :)
[17:29] <pleia2> Pasi Lallinaho (knome), Elizabeth Krumbach (pleia2), madnick, Bruno A. Benitez (GridCube), Simon Steinbeiß (ochosi), Phil Whitaker (beardygnome), Unit193, Steve Dodier (SiDi) and all the others who helped us testing the site or gave any feedback.
[17:29] <pleia2> :)
[17:29] <knome> yup
[17:29] <knome> looks great
[17:30] <pleia2> I still don't have a title :)
[17:30] <knome> hmm.
[17:30] <pleia2> I don't think we want it to be *too* abstract
[17:30] <knome> heh ;)
[17:31] <knome> Refreshing the web-presence
[17:31] <knome> or sth
[17:32] <pleia2> it was more than a refresh, whole redevelopment
[17:32] <knome> hehe
[17:32] <pleia2> Redeveloping the web presence ;)
[17:32] <knome> nah
[17:33] <knome> Bringing the web presence to 2012
[17:33] <pleia2> I think that's good
[17:34] <knome> mmh
[17:34] <pleia2> should it be "the" or "our"?
[17:34] <knome> our is better
[17:34] <pleia2> "Bringing Our Web Presence to 2012"
[17:34] <knome> if you want to be american, then yes ;P
[17:34] <pleia2> haha, the capitalization?
[17:34] <knome> yeah, that
[17:35] <knome> i think we might need to think the "official" norm
[17:35] <pleia2> looks like we've not done so many capitals in the past, so I won't be american
[17:35] <knome> heh, yeah
[17:35] <pleia2> "Bringing our web presence to 2012" it is!
[17:35] <knome> yeayy!
[17:36] <knome> heh, just noticed "News Links" vs "Quick links" ;)
[17:36] <knome> i'll fix that
[17:36] <pleia2> that would be me again with the News Links :)
[17:36] <pleia2> ok, publishing!
[17:37] <pleia2> http://www.xubuntu.org/news/webpresence2012/
[17:37] <knome> WOOO! :)
[17:38] <pleia2> ah, we like xubuntu.org rather than www.xubuntu.org? I updated wp.xubuntu.org in the wordpress config last night to be www.xubuntu.org
[17:38] <knome> awwh :)
[17:38] <knome> well, it's not a biggie
[17:38] <knome> though i prefer non-www. links
[17:38] <pleia2> I can drop the www. in wordpress
[17:38] <knome> sure
[17:38] <knome> i wasn't sure if that was a WP or redirect issue
[17:38] <knome> could've been both
[17:39] <pleia2> both
[17:39] <knome> khihi ;)
[17:39] <pleia2> it doesn't redirect you to either one and in wordpress it goes to www
[17:39] <knome> mm
[17:39] <pleia2> ok, fixed, you will probably need to log in again
[17:39] <knome> yup
[17:39] <knome> i fixed some of the capitalization stuff
[17:39] <pleia2> :)
[17:40] <knome> do we have screenshots for the tour?
[17:40] <knome> and
[17:40] <pleia2> can grab from https://www-admin.xubuntu.org
[17:41] <knome> and/or actually: should we strive to have a slideshow with the ubiquity-slides
[17:41] <pleia2> gah, all our image links re being broken
[17:41] <knome> i mean, that shouldn't be too hard with the slideshow plugins
[17:41] <knome> no.
[17:41] <knome> they are not.
[17:41] <knome> they just don't ALWAYS
[17:41] <knome> work
[17:41] <pleia2> annoying thing
[17:41] <knome> yeah.
[17:45] <knome> huh. i might have solved a long-standing bug
[17:45] <knome> well, let's say triaged
[17:45] <knome> i'm not sure how to fix that, but once i do, we need an another update for the website
[17:46] <knome> (sometimes the slideshow advances too fast, that's because jquery is kind of enqueuing the transitions while you look into another tab)
[17:46] <knome> so the longer you stay away from the tab, the more times the slideshow advances automatically in a really short time
[17:46] <knome> now i need to see if i can get information on if we are actually looking or not
[17:47] <knome> :)
[17:47] <pleia2> ah, I assumed it was just my browser being weird :)
[17:48] <knome> heh, me too.
[17:48] <astraljava> Yeah, we've all wondered about pleia2's browser.
[17:48] <knome> ;)
[18:25] <GridCube_> from #xubuntu: [15:24] <ParkerR> Just wanted to say I'm in love with Xubuntu :D
[19:02] <Unit193> Heh, I'm the only one without a name :P
[19:02] <pleia2> madnick too
[19:03] <pleia2> I secretly know your name, but I am under the assumption that it was given in confidence (holiday card)
[19:07] <astraljava> It's not a secret when google knows about it.
[19:09] <Unit193> Yes, yes it was
[19:09] <Unit193> pleia2: I'm going to assume you looked up last too :P
[19:27] <knome> hahah, that would've been the xubuntu mistake of the decade
[19:28] <knome> "oops, your name is now on our website - and google"
[21:32] <GridCube_> http://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/xubuntu
[21:33] <astraljava> Noice!
[21:36] <GridCube_> they have the old logo tho :P
[21:38] <pleia2> we had the old logo until yesterday ;)
[21:39] <GridCube_> :P
[21:39] <GridCube_> mmm i've seen the new logo on every boot since 11.10 :P
[21:39] <knome> pleia2, don't do as we do, do as we say
[21:40] <knome> damn that infian chicken we prepared was good
[21:41] <astraljava> infian? Something like martian, but... not quite?
[21:41] <knome> erf
[21:41] <knome> :P
[21:41] <knome> exactly.
[21:41] <knome> i secretly put it a bit of extra chili
[21:41] <knome> ERR
[21:42] <knome> IN
[21:42] <astraljava> Looks like it was good, but it might have gone bad.
[21:43] <knome> it could have had yet a bit more chili
[21:43] <knome> or lots more
[21:44] <astraljava> Sure, but spices were only added to camouflage the fact the meat had gone bad.
[21:44] <astraljava> You'd still get the symptoms.
[21:44] <knome> hah
[21:44] <knome> well, the chicken had the last use date today
[21:45] <astraljava> Not if you asked her.
[21:45] <knome> now you lost me :)
[21:45] <astraljava> The chick.
[21:45] <astraljava> I'm sure she'd have disagreed.
[21:45] <knome> heh
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