[02:24] <allyorbase> So I just took the plunge, any tips for a newcomer to Linux in general?
[02:24] <urlin2u> brag about it. :D
[02:25] <allyorbase> Anything you guys think is a 'must have'?
[02:25] <urlin2u> allyorbase, you have the restricted extras for codecs yet?
[02:26] <allyorbase> I don't think so!
[02:26] <urlin2u> allyorbase, what desktop you running?
[02:26] <allyorbase> Its a gateway, nothing special
[02:27] <urlin2u> so you downloaded ubuntu, or kubuntu or lubuntu or xubuntu?
[02:27] <allyorbase> Oh, is that what desktop means? Sorry, I'm really new to Lunix, and its just regular Ubuntu
[02:28] <urlin2u> allyorbase, cool in the terminal run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:28] <urlin2u> this will load codecs a ms font and stuff generally needed. allyorbase
[02:29] <allyorbase> Oh, okay, very cool
[02:31] <urlin2u> allyorbase, lots of stuff really you might look in the ubuntu software center after the terminal gets done for stuff you might like, you can only have one installer installing at once like the terminal or the ubuntu software center
[02:31] <allyorbase> Oh, okay.
[04:14] <telnetter> yawn
[04:16] <nlsthzn> +1
[11:38] <Culiforge> Is it possible to copy installed programs from on install to another with rsync? Both installs are on the same system with the same 10.04. I've already rsync'd the home directory. Or is there a better way to accomplish this?
[15:57] <AD_> hi
[17:08] <morpheeze> somehow quassel appears to ignore the language setting and take the one from the system
[17:09] <morpheeze> or at least makes a mix
[17:21] <Culiforge> so I have successfully chroot'd into a broken installation, what do I need to do to fix it, what am I looking for?
[17:22] <bioterror> you tell us
[17:29] <duanedesign> what is broken?
[17:30] <Culiforge> duanedesign: the system halts right after the bootsplash
[17:32] <Culiforge> duanedesign: initially I found that grub had reassigned the install to sde1 from sda1.. updated grub and it still won't boot (normal or recovery)
[17:43] <Culiforge> unfortunately I can't pastbin because I have no command line.. so I imagebin instead http://imagebin.org/197268 . this is where it stops
[17:44] <bioterror> Culiforge, grub-install /dev/sda
[17:44] <Culiforge> bioterror: ok, but this install shows up on the grub menu, it just doesn't boot
[17:46] <bioterror> hmmm
[17:46] <bioterror> at least it loads the kernel :D
[17:47] <Culiforge> this all happened when I installed an nvidia 8400gs and went for restart as per driver install req.
[17:48] <Culiforge> grub-install tells me cannot find a device for /boot/grub
[17:49] <Culiforge> asking if /dev is mounted
[17:49] <bioterror> okay
[17:50] <Culiforge> autodetection of a filesystem module failed
[17:57] <duanedesign> Culiforge: I think the error you got trying to run grub-install is just because you are on LiveCD or chroot'd in
[17:57] <bioterror> duanedesign, wrongly chrooted ;)
[17:59] <Culiforge> if I scrollback through my commands in terminal.. it's all stuff I was working on like a week and a half ago
[18:00] <Culiforge> in my now broken installation
[18:01] <Culiforge> also if I cd / and ls it's all the root from broken install.. is something not mounted right maybe?
[18:04] <bioterror> when you make a chroot, you mount into that /mnt for example your live enviroments /dev/, /proc and /sys/
[18:08] <urlin2u> hmm if there only a bootscript that outlies the setup.
[18:09] <urlin2u> was
[18:10] <urlin2u> http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[18:13] <Culiforge> bioterror: I have an install on another partition and the non booting system is mounted. I chroot'd into it from here
[18:13] <Culiforge> bioterror: i.e. # chroot /media/4ea2a41f-32ff-41bc-aa1a-3ddaaac7c65e /bin/bash
[18:14] <Culiforge> bioterror:  is that not right?
[18:14] <bioterror> that's a usb stick installation which got broken?
[18:15] <Culiforge> bioterror:  no, I believe that's the uuid of my sda
[18:16] <bioterror> mount -o bind /dev/ /media//4ea2a41f-32ff-41bc-aa1a-3ddaaac7c65e/
[18:16] <bioterror> mount -o bind /proc /media//4ea2a41f-32ff-41bc-aa1a-3ddaaac7c65e/
[18:16] <bioterror> mount -o bind /sys /media//4ea2a41f-32ff-41bc-aa1a-3ddaaac7c65e/
[18:16] <bioterror> oh, there's two //
[18:16] <bioterror> take one off ;)
[18:16] <bioterror> and then chroot /media/foooooo/ /bin/bash
[18:18] <Culiforge> bioterror: foooo?
[18:18] <bioterror> foobar
[18:18] <bioterror> I was too lazy to paste that uuid again
[18:20] <Culiforge> bioterror: right, I understand.. (that's why i'm in ubuntu-beginners)
[18:21] <Culiforge> bioterror: should I exit out of my current chroot first before starting your instructions?
[18:21] <bioterror> yes
[18:21] <Culiforge> righto
[18:25] <Culiforge> bioterror:  now when I chroot it tells me cannot run command '/bin/bash' no such file or directory
[18:25] <bioterror> w00t
[18:26] <Culiforge> bioterror: woot? isn't that usually a joyous exclamation?
[18:28] <bioterror> say
[18:28] <bioterror> which bash
[18:28] <Culiforge> bioterror: I don't understand
[18:29] <bioterror> say in terminal: which bash
[18:29] <Culiforge> which bash /bin/bash
[18:30] <bioterror> how it can say that no such if it's /bin/bash :o
[18:30] <Culiforge> bioterror:  that's what i'm screamin
[18:33] <bioterror> hmmm
[18:33] <Culiforge> gotta go afk a few.. sry
[18:33] <bioterror> I have done that myself many times :P
[19:02] <Culiforge> bioterror: back, sorry bout that
[19:03] <bioterror> Culiforge, no problems
[19:04] <Culiforge> bioterror: so "I have done that myself many times" what have you done?
[19:04] <Culiforge> bioterror: screamin'?
[19:05] <urlin2u> Culiforge, kind of curious about your problem, would you consider running a script that outlines the what is where in your setup that results in a text file that can be pastebined?
[19:05] <Culiforge> bioterror: anything to get this fixed man
[19:06] <bioterror> I would probably try to install kernel again
[19:06] <urlin2u> Culiforge, http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/  pur the reults.txt in apastebin I can give you a link if needed.
[19:06] <urlin2u> put*
[19:09] <urlin2u> Culiforge, here is a pastebin if you want to do this.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[19:10] <Culiforge> urlin2u: righto, I"m on it
[19:10] <urlin2u> cool
[19:17] <Culiforge> quick question.. running into problems... do I need to run the script in the chroot'd evironment or just anywhere
[19:18] <urlin2u> Culiforge, from a live cd download the zip exstarct it to the desktop and run this command. sudo bash ~/Desktop/boot_info_script.sh
[19:19] <urlin2u> no chroot needed as of now
[19:20] <Culiforge> bah! bash: /boot_info_script.sh: No such file or directory
[19:21] <urlin2u> Culiforge, download the zip from the link extract it to the desktop then run that command
[19:21] <urlin2u> from a live cd
[19:21] <urlin2u> or on a live cd booted
[19:26] <Culiforge> http://paste.ubuntu.com/829207/
[19:26] <Culiforge> there
[19:28] <urlin2u> cool hold on
[19:29] <urlin2u> Culiforge, looks like you have no grub bootlader in sdb where the install is you on the cd of te install right now?
[19:29] <urlin2u> the
[19:30] <urlin2u> sdb1 looks to be the install am I right?
[19:31] <Culiforge> sdb is the install I'm in right now, sda is the broken install
[19:33] <urlin2u> the sda1 is missing the boot files that you would see as an example in sdb1 /boot/grub/grub.cfg /etc/fstab /boot/grub/core.img
[19:34] <bioterror> sounds nice ;)
[19:35] <Culiforge> urlin2u: ok, sounds like progress to me, that's more than I've known up till now.. so what do I need to do to fix what the nvidia driver did to my system? :S
[19:35] <urlin2u> your fsatb is messed up as well as far as where looking at sdf1 correct uuid though, the boot stuff can be reloaded hard to say if this will fix it
[19:36] <Culiforge> sdf is removable media (card reader)
[19:36] <urlin2u> Culiforge, follow this chroot to load grub to the sda set up and have it first read in the bios the sda for booting.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot
[19:37] <urlin2u> hoold on before you do
[19:38] <Culiforge> holding
[19:38] <urlin2u> when you get to the chroot first run apt-get install grub-pc grub-common   it may be your missing ths files the the commands to install the bootloader again to the sda.
[19:38] <urlin2u> these*
[19:39] <Culiforge> no raid so skip mdadm right?
[19:39] <urlin2u> I don't see any raid indicators but a standard partition setup
[19:40] <urlin2u> mdadm?
[19:40] <Culiforge> it's the first code instruction in the link you sent
[19:42] <urlin2u> run all commands to get to the chroot enviroment, I just use these refrences = links to get to the areas we need to run the correct commands.
[19:43] <urlin2u> in the chroot we can purge any grub and reinstall if needed I assume your missing the grub files needed in the OS at this point hence the install commands.
[19:44] <urlin2u> hope that all makes sense. :)
[19:45] <Culiforge> urlin2u: ok, I just chroot /mnt... hold there or update-grub?
[19:45] <Culiforge> ls tells me I'm where I need to be
[19:46] <urlin2u> cool lets try a purge first just to be careful here run apt-get purge grub-pc grub-common
[19:46] <Culiforge> sudo correct?
[19:46] <urlin2u> yes if your not in root I believe the chroot is root you see # in the terminal that is root.
[19:47] <Culiforge> or doesnt' matter   #
[19:47] <urlin2u> your in root no sudo needed
[19:48] <Culiforge> urlin2u: ok, purged
[19:48] <urlin2u> cool now run apt-get install grub-pc grub-common
[19:49] <urlin2u> it will ask where you want grub choose sda use the space key to tick it I beliebe
[19:50] <Culiforge> urlin2u: ok, choices are sda sda1 and sdb, I want sda and sdb right?
[19:51] <urlin2u> hold on I'm checking
[19:51] <Culiforge> or choose all 3 and figure which one of sda* is the right one later
[19:51] <urlin2u> yeah sda
[19:52] <urlin2u> sda only
[19:52] <Culiforge> urlin2u: only? I've got this install I'm in now though
[19:52] <Culiforge> on sdb
[19:53] <Culiforge> I'll most likely overwrite it later though
[19:53] <urlin2u> sda only sdb has what it needs already.
[19:53] <Culiforge> gotcha
[19:54] <urlin2u> grub reads both HD the sda drive now has controll of the boot if booted from sda
[19:54] <Culiforge> good, done, no error
[19:55] <urlin2u> run updtae-grub   and reboot with the sda drive being read first for boot.
[19:55] <urlin2u> update-grub*
[19:55] <urlin2u> without the asterix of course. lol
[19:57] <urlin2u> you ticked the sda right with the spce key?
[19:57] <Culiforge> yup, sda selected
[19:58] <Culiforge> ok, going down for reboot..
[19:59] <urlin2u> cool
[19:59] <urlin2u> you ran the update-grub
[19:59] <Culiforge> yes
[19:59] <urlin2u> cool reboot and give us a update
[20:01] <urlin2u> bioterror, hard to say how much the OS is messed up huh. :)
[20:01] <urlin2u> we never know really, lol
[20:01] <bioterror> :D
[20:02] <bioterror> I cant understand how
[20:02] <urlin2u> a nvidia install wont mess up grub yeah
[20:14] <Culiforge> urlin2u: dang.... no dice.. don't even have my other install listed now... had to go to a live cd
[20:15] <urlin2u> Culiforge, your other install is still the same if the sdb drive is booted first
[20:15] <urlin2u> can you run the bootscript again?
[20:16] <Culiforge> urlin2u: like if I run it from f10 boot menu of the bios?
[20:16] <urlin2u> should be the same though but easily fixed, you mght try that first.
[20:16] <urlin2u> yeah f12
[20:16] <Culiforge> urlin2u: it wasnt' on the grub menu
[20:16] <Culiforge> ok
[20:17] <urlin2u> Culiforge, you were using the reinstalled grub from sda sdb has a bootloader in its sdb
[20:17] <urlin2u> they can be booted individually
[20:18] <urlin2u> both HD's have a mbr that can boot that HD
[20:18] <Culiforge> urlin2u: unfortunately I gotta run. as much as it pains me to leave this unfinished I promised my son we'd game tonight if he got his homework done so I gotta go. I'll try lurking back on here later tonight.. (EST here)
[20:18] <urlin2u> Culiforge, cool
[20:19] <Culiforge> tc all thanks for the help
[20:19] <urlin2u> no problem
[21:42] <AD_> hi
[21:42] <AD_> anybody there?
[21:42] <dangertux> yes AD_
[21:43] <AD_> asolute beginner, just installed ubuntu 11.10
[21:43] <dangertux> Well congrats on taking the big leap :-) Do you need help or have any questions?
[21:43] <AD_> I went into the sw center to install vlc, but I get a message saying sw package not found
[21:44] <AD_> i tried others, same
[21:44] <AD_> 11.10 64bit
[21:45] <dangertux> AD_:  You need to make sure that you have the Universe repository enabled. It should be by default
[21:45] <dangertux> AD_: Can you try the following
[21:45] <AD_> ok tell me
[21:45] <dangertux> AD_: Press ctrl+alt+t , this will open a terminal
[21:45] <dangertux> AD_:  Then type the following sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install vlc
[21:46] <dangertux> AD_:  This will prompt you for your password, and update your repository list as well as attempt to install vlc
[21:46] <dangertux> AD_: Let me know if that gives you an error.
[21:50] <AD_> yes, it went into the various archives, but at the end: unable to locate package vlc
[21:51] <dangertux> AD_:  Interesting, can you do the following in the same terminal cat /etc/sources.list | grep -i universe and let me know what it returns (you may need to use sudo)
[21:51] <dangertux> AD_:  Screatch that
[21:51] <dangertux> AD_:  it should be /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:53] <AD_> permission denied
[21:53] <dangertux> AD_:  Try it with sudo as such sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep -i universe
[21:54] <AD_> it took me 12h to connect wired and then out of the blue it connected, I have no idea why
[21:58] <AD_> I get different results, all with the word universe written in red
[21:59] <Unit193> Can you pastebin it?
[21:59] <Unit193> dangertux: Is pastebinit installed by defualt?
[21:59] <dangertux> Unit193: I don't think so
[21:59] <dangertux> Unit193: I'm actually on BT5 at the moment so I'm kinda doing this from memory lol
[22:00] <dangertux> AD_:  Can you tell me if there is a line that looks something like deb http://archives.ubuntu.com oneiric universe
[22:01] <AD_> yes many
[22:01] <dangertux> AD_:  do they start with the # character
[22:01] <AD_> ##
[22:02] <dangertux> AD_: That's just the first one right?
[22:02] <dangertux> AD_:  Something about team will not support any something or other
[22:04] <AD_> ## team. Also, please note that software in universe will not recceive any deb.src etc....
[22:04] <dangertux> AD_:  Okay that's fine, do any of the lines proceeding that start with #?
[22:04] <AD_> no
[22:05] <dangertux> AD_: Hmm...
[22:05] <dangertux> AD_: Then the universe repository SHOULD be enabled, which is where the vlc package is.
[22:06] <benonsoftware>  /msg JoseeAntonioR Hello
[22:06] <AD_> you have to tell me something, is this always so complex the first install?
[22:06] <benonsoftware> Oh, sorry
[22:06] <dangertux> AD_: No, I've never run into that problem
[22:07] <AD_> I have the impression that the system is very unstable, as I said, it connected after 12h, and I cannot understan why
[22:07] <dangertux> AD_: I'm not sure, I've never had stability problems with Ubuntu (though I don't really mess with 11.10 so much)
[22:07] <AD_> then, if you reboot, sometimes it reboots fine, some others it freezes on a black screen
[22:08] <dangertux> AD_: You might be having issues with some of your hardware, though that is not the cause of VLC not installing
[22:08] <AD_> Could it be the 64bit version?
[22:08] <dangertux> AD_: Another side note, you are typing vlc all lower case right?
[22:08] <AD_> yes
[22:08] <dangertux> AD_: It could be, though that's not necessarily the case
[22:09] <AD_> my system is brand new, I just finished assembling it yesterday, no OS was installed on the HDD
[22:09] <AD_> but I am thinking at the AMD CPU
[22:09] <dangertux> AD_: Well, that doesn't necessarily mean anything, different hardware is more compatible with Linux than other hardware.
[22:09] <dangertux> AD_: It's most likely a graphical issue if you're noticing issues with freezing at boot, the networking issue might be a chipset issue, but probably not the processor
[22:10] <AD_> I have one ASROCK MB with the new onboard ATI grphic card
[22:11] <dangertux> AD_:  Question, did you do a sudo apt-get upgrade after you installed the OS?
[22:12] <AD_> I raan the upgrade manager, also strange behavior, I clicked update and the progress bar was not moving at all, after 2 min. I closed everything, I went back and noticed that all the updates had been installed
[22:13] <dangertux> AD_: Hmm, I don't use software center. Do me a favor try the following.
[22:13] <AD_> ok
[22:13] <dangertux> AD_: click on system in the upper right hand portion of the screen (near the clock)
[22:13] <dangertux> AD_: system settings*
[22:13] <dangertux> AD_: you may have to right click on the little double arrow icon
[22:14] <dangertux> AD_:  I'm sorry not double arrow but gear
[22:14] <dangertux> AD_:  it should look like a little wheel.
[22:14] <AD_> i am in the settings
[22:14] <dangertux> AD_:  okay now click software sources
[22:15] <AD_> ok
[22:15] <dangertux> AD_: and under the tab that says Ubuntu software
[22:15] <dangertux> AD_: make sure that there is a checkbox in the universe and multiverse repositories
[22:16] <dangertux> I really need to reinstall an 11.10 VM lol doing this from google images stinks :-(
[22:16] <AD_> there is not such options
[22:17] <AD_> 4 of them:
[22:17] <AD_> canonincal
[22:17] <AD_> community maintained
[22:17] <AD_> proprietary drivers
[22:17] <AD_> sw restricted by copyright
[22:17] <dangertux> AD_: are the first 2 checked?
[22:17] <AD_> the 4 are checked
[22:18] <dangertux> AD_: Okay now I officially give up lol. There should be no reason that vlc is not available
[22:18] <dangertux> Does anyone who is currently running a copy of Oneiric amd64 have any issues installing the package vlc? lol
[22:19] <AD_> perhaps changin server helps?
[22:19] <AD_> Main server?
[22:19] <dangertux> AD_: You can try but it shouldn't
[22:19] <dangertux> AD_: they are rsynce'd to eachother I beleive
[22:20] <dangertux> brb stealing my wife's laptop she has oneiric amd64 lol
[22:22] <AD_> believe it or not, it is now installing, after I changed server
[22:22] <dangertux> AD_: Try with the Main server option, though I just tried to install the vlc package on my wife's Ubuntu 11.10 amd64 and it worked fine :-/
[22:22] <dangertux> AD_: Maybe it was just not available on your mirror
[22:22] <AD_> sad
[22:22] <dangertux> AD_: well at least it's installing now lol
[22:22] <AD_> tell me another thing, everything I do, it asks me the psw
[22:22] <AD_> how can I get rid of this?
[22:23] <AD_> I am the admin
[22:23] <AD_> installation completed
[22:25] <AD_> I am going to eat something, if you can, can you tell me about the psw?
[22:27] <dangertux> AD_:  Oh yeah it's going to do that
[22:27] <dangertux> AD_: because you'ren ot root, you're a sudoer so you have the ability to run commands as root, but you are not root yourself. It's a security feature and is best left alone.
[22:28] <dangertux> AD_:  If you really want to get into messing with that you can type man sudoers in a terminal and it will tell you how to configure your sudoers file so you aren't prompted for a password.