| iceroot | hi | 09:38 |
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| iceroot | i found a bug in a main-package which is managed through "bzr". what is the way to help fixing? a patch, a debdiff, an upload by me into "bzr"? | 09:38 |
| iceroot | bug is in command-not-found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/command-not-found/+bug/925678 just a string needs to be replaced but i think its a good training for me to work on that | 09:39 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 925678 in command-not-found (Ubuntu) "[12.04] command-not-found is showing a wrong version when its crashing (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] | 09:39 |
| ali1234 | iceroot: it depends on the package unfortunately | 09:42 |
| iceroot | ali1234: command-not-found in this case | 09:43 |
| ali1234 | confirming your bug since i can reproduce it | 09:45 |
| ali1234 | also i feel like it shouldn't crash even if LANG is invalid | 09:46 |
| ali1234 | iceroot: there were some sessions about this in the past few days so you might want to go and read over those | 09:46 |
| ali1234 | iceroot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek | 09:47 |
| iceroot | ali1234: do you have a link for me on that? | 09:47 |
| iceroot | ali1234: great thank you | 09:47 |
| iceroot | ali1234: i will fill a new bug on command-not-found for crashing when LANG is set incorrectly | 09:47 |
| ali1234 | the instructions for filing a bug are pretty unhelpful too | 09:51 |
| ali1234 | something obviously caught the crash, yet it provides no useful debugging information for you to repost on the bug report. why? | 09:51 |
| iceroot | i am remebering a speech at the last "linux day in berlin" where someone has a presentation about using bzr to commit patches, of course i cant remember that but i will do some reading on it, thank you | 09:52 |
| iceroot | i dont get exactly what you are asking for with the last "why" | 09:53 |
| ali1234 | well if it crashed, what was the error message? | 09:54 |
| iceroot | ali1234: the one i posted on the bug "with the wrong version number" | 09:54 |
| iceroot | thats al | 09:54 |
| iceroot | l | 09:54 |
| ali1234 | i know | 09:54 |
| ali1234 | that's rubbish | 09:54 |
| ali1234 | btw you can strace it like this: | 09:55 |
| ali1234 | strace sh LANG=en vii foo | 09:55 |
| ali1234 | and strace will show you the error message which says: | 09:55 |
| ali1234 | "Can't open LANG=en" | 09:55 |
| ali1234 | which is actually helpful | 09:55 |
| ali1234 | but then that little supposedly helpful instruction about posting a bug report throws that one useful piece of information away | 09:56 |
| iceroot | ali1234: but that message is coming from sh not from command-not-found | 09:56 |
| iceroot | imo | 09:56 |
| ali1234 | ah yes, you're right, ok let me retry that | 09:56 |
| iceroot | do we have something like "set -x" for python? so i can put that into /usr/lib/command-not-found | 09:58 |
| iceroot | + /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/command-not-found -- vii | 09:58 |
| iceroot | that is the call of command-not-found | 09:58 |
| ali1234 | no, don't think so | 09:58 |
| ali1234 | looks like command-not-found is actually catching the exception and then hiding it | 09:59 |
| iceroot | first of all i will open two new bugs, command-not-found not giving usefull output for the bug and crashing with wrong LANG | 09:59 |
| ali1234 | from CommandNotFound.util import crash_guard <- here the bug will be found | 10:00 |
| ali1234 | ok | 10:02 |
| ali1234 | actually i don't understand why it doesn't print the exception/backtrace | 10:04 |
| ali1234 | oh wait, yes i do, there's a double nested try | 10:05 |
| ali1234 | settings the LANG wrong not only crashes command not found but it also crashes the crash dumper | 10:06 |
| iceroot | so its not a command-not-found bug if i get you correctly | 10:07 |
| ali1234 | it is, cos the crash dumper is part of command-not-found | 10:07 |
| ali1234 | they are trying to be clever and printout a message when it crashes | 10:07 |
| ali1234 | but it is crashing so bad that the helpful message isn't printing | 10:07 |
| ali1234 | but because they already caught the exception, NOTHING gets printed | 10:08 |
| iceroot | so now we have https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/command-not-found/+bug/925678 | 10:13 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 925678 in command-not-found (Ubuntu) "[12.04] command-not-found is showing a wrong version when its crashing (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 10:13 |
| iceroot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/command-not-found/+bug/926569 | 10:13 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 926569 in command-not-found (Ubuntu) "command-not-found crashing when LANG is set incorrectly (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] | 10:13 |
| iceroot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/command-not-found/+bug/926577 | 10:13 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 926577 in command-not-found (Ubuntu) "command-not-found is hiding exception/backtrace when crashing (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] | 10:13 |
| iceroot | just because i misstyped LANG and vi :) | 10:13 |
| ali1234 | bugs tend to clump together | 10:15 |
| iceroot | ali1234: but they are different (imo) | 10:15 |
| ali1234 | the second two are arguably the same | 10:16 |
| iceroot | not really (imo) | 10:16 |
| ali1234 | you can't really prevent crashing on a bad locale | 10:16 |
| iceroot | the first is that its not acting correctly on a wrong LANG, the second is when the crash dunper fails its stealing the backtrace (which can happen on other bugs then locale too) | 10:17 |
| ali1234 | can it? | 10:18 |
| iceroot | and gtk is acting correctly on a wrong locale | 10:18 |
| iceroot | Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback 'C' locale. | 10:18 |
| ali1234 | it seems to happen specifically because of the locale bug | 10:18 |
| iceroot | ali1234: but maybe there are other case4s to i can crash it | 10:18 |
| ali1234 | maybe........ | 10:19 |
| iceroot | so there should be a general fix that crash dumper is not stealing anything | 10:19 |
| iceroot | but that is just my opinion and maybe you are wrong its all just because of the incorrect locale | 10:20 |
| ali1234 | i think instead of trying to manually generate a backtrace it should catch the exception, print the friendly message, and then just reraise the exception | 10:20 |
| iceroot | ali1234: that is what i wanted to say :) | 10:20 |
| iceroot | ali1234: maybe you can put that in your words to the bug? maybe that is not confusing so much instead of me guessing something on that (with my english) | 10:22 |
| ali1234 | yeah trying | 10:23 |
| iceroot | ali1234: thank you | 10:23 |
| ali1234 | it's actually generating all kinds of weird errors rght now | 10:23 |
| ali1234 | the crash dumper actually crashes because: %d format: a number is required, not sys.version_info | 10:23 |
| ali1234 | which makes very little sense to me | 10:23 |
| ali1234 | ah so this has absolutely nothing to do with the locale | 10:25 |
| ali1234 | oh, no wrong again | 10:26 |
| iceroot | ali1234: thanks for your debug, would be great to append that infos on the bug(s) to its getting more clear then my try to debug it | 10:42 |
| ali1234 | already done | 10:42 |
| iceroot | ah great then my mailserver/lp mailserver is just slow | 10:43 |
| iceroot | ali1234: thank you for the help on my issues | 10:43 |
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| cornwall | Hi! Can a triager set bug 735250 to wishlist importance? Thanks! | 17:03 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 735250 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Please disable live viewport previews by default for Desktop Wall plugin (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/735250 | 17:03 |
| * penguin42 looks | 17:17 | |
| penguin42 | cornwall: I will set it to wishlist, but to be honest I like it - what would you prefer to happen? | 17:19 |
| penguin42 | (and to be honest I'm not 100% sure which Desktop wall is - but would that be the one I get when doing ctrl-alt-arrow to switch desktop? | 17:19 |
| * penguin42 misses the previews on the KDE equivalent | 17:20 | |
| cornwall | penguin42, I like it, too, but it's a feature request | 20:22 |
| penguin42 | cornwall: Nod | 20:22 |
| cornwall | penguin42, yes, it's the little 'preview' thing. | 20:22 |
| cornwall | penguin42, thanks for marking it. One day I'll apply for membership.... | 20:23 |
| penguin42 | no problem | 20:25 |
| MxxCon | So do i need to provide any more info regarding bug 909996 to have somebody look at it/fix it? | 20:54 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 909996 in b43-fwcutter (Ubuntu) "firmware-b43legacy-installer errors "17: missing" (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/909996 | 20:54 |
| mfisch | If a bug was filed on an ancient version of some code, and no longer occurs, should it be marked as Invalid or as Fix Released (or something else?) | 22:47 |
| mfisch | wait! I found the answer | 22:47 |
| mfisch | Don't know how I missed that on my first read of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status. | 22:48 |
| mfisch | carry on everyone | 22:48 |
| hggdh | mfisch: fix released, and a comment it does not happen anymore on such and such version | 23:32 |
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