| hallyn | jtaylor: just a note, because (to my chagrin) packaging trees are stored with patches applied, it can confuse matters when you don't do so in your merge proposals :) | 00:14 |
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| jtaylor | I know, but I don't like it, I like my diffs small ;) | 00:15 |
| jtaylor | hasn't that also changed now? | 00:15 |
| hallyn | jtaylor: i dunno. but my first build somehow failed to get your fix (i thought debian/rules build would quilt push, but apparently it didn't) | 00:15 |
| hallyn | cjwatson: (cause i'm not sure who else to ask) once a merge proposal is approved, if the approver doesn't have upload rights, does that hit another queue where someone will see it and push it? | 00:16 |
| hallyn | (i'd ask dholbach but don't see him here) | 00:17 |
| hallyn | i just want to make sure the mp didn't just get buried in a hole somewhere | 00:17 |
| hallyn | @pilot out | 00:17 |
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| cjwatson | hallyn: not afaik but I think it stays on the sponsorship queue | 00:20 |
| hallyn | cjwatson: oh, sorry - I thought when I looked earlier it had been removed, but i see it's still there. thx | 00:21 |
| broder | hallyn: jtaylor: do you guys still need sponsorship for svn? i have 45 minutes at the airport before my flight boards :) | 00:35 |
| broder | hallyn: the code for the sponsor queue is in lp:ubuntu-sponsoring - i believe that approved/disapproved/etc. reviews have no impact on whether or not something's in the queue; my recollection is that it's all based on the "status" (i.e. "work in progress", "needs review", etc.) at the top of the page | 00:40 |
| broder | which is why you'll see people reject changes by changing the status to "WIP" | 00:40 |
| broder | bah. it may take me all 45 of these minutes to manage to clone the bzr branch over airport wifi | 00:48 |
| stgraber | broder: bzr co --lightweight? | 00:57 |
| broder | huh, interesting. maybe sponsor-patch should support that | 00:57 |
| hallyn | broder: sorry, was afk (obviously). yeah there are two merge proposals by jtaylor that i approved but don't have rights to upload | 01:07 |
| hallyn | svn and python-numpy | 01:07 |
| broder | hallyn: i'm, uh, 4/5ths through downloading the build-deps for a test build, so i don't think that's likely to finish before i have to pack up | 01:08 |
| hallyn | broder: thanks for trying :) | 01:08 |
| hallyn | sounds like my experience trying wifi at portland airport... | 01:08 |
| hallyn | everyone tells me it was atypical though | 01:08 |
| broder | yeah, sfo is always crappy, but at least it's free :) | 01:09 |
| broder | and that's my cue to leave. i can try again later, but maybe someone else will show up | 01:12 |
| ajmitch | /win 44 | 01:16 |
| ion | /lose 45 | 01:16 |
| cnd | slangasek, I'm having some issues with creating a new package using the debian X git guidelines | 01:34 |
| cnd | are you still around? | 01:34 |
| slangasek | cnd: barely | 01:35 |
| slangasek | what's the problem? | 01:35 |
| cnd | dpkg-source: info: local changes detected, the modified files are: | 01:35 |
| cnd | xorg-gtest/autogen.sh | 01:35 |
| cnd | dpkg-source: error: aborting due to unexpected upstream changes, see /tmp/xorg-gtest_0.1.0+git5b26608-1.diff.a_LeY9 | 01:35 |
| cnd | upstream git has autogen.sh | 01:35 |
| cnd | the shipped tarball does not | 01:35 |
| cnd | somehow this isn't a problem in all the X packages | 01:35 |
| cnd | but I can't figure out why it's different for this package | 01:35 |
| slangasek | is this package source format 3.0 (quilt) where the others are not? | 01:36 |
| slangasek | I think I've seen this error message before on a package in X git, but I don't remember the solution offhand | 01:36 |
| cnd | yeah | 01:36 |
| cnd | I just noticed that | 01:36 |
| cnd | maybe that's why they haven't switched to 3.0 (quilt)? | 01:36 |
| slangasek | I doubt that's the reason | 01:37 |
| slangasek | you could just git rm autogen.sh on the packaging branch | 01:37 |
| slangasek | but if debian/rules is calling dh_autoreconf, that may not be what you want | 01:37 |
| cnd | the X stuff requires being able to call dh_autoreconf | 01:38 |
| cnd | I'm trying to follow their approach for a new X package we're developing | 01:38 |
| slangasek | then you probably want to stick with format 1.0 for now :) | 01:38 |
| cnd | but moving to (3.0) quilt if possible | 01:38 |
| cnd | heh | 01:38 |
| slangasek | but you could ask on #debian-x@OFTC | 01:38 |
| cnd | yeah, I just did, but I thought I'd ping you too in case you knew :) | 01:39 |
| slangasek | yeah, dunno a perfect fix here, sorry | 01:39 |
| cnd | slangasek, one last question, where is dpkg-source called from | 01:39 |
| cnd | if I want to override dh | 01:39 |
| cnd | it looks like dh_clean | 01:39 |
| cnd | but I can't find any reference in the man page | 01:39 |
| slangasek | dpkg-source isn't called from debian/rules at all | 01:39 |
| cnd | what would be calling it? | 01:40 |
| slangasek | uh | 01:40 |
| slangasek | what command are you running? :) | 01:40 |
| cnd | debuild -i -I | 01:40 |
| cnd | http://paste.ubuntu.com/828346/ | 01:40 |
| slangasek | ok, then the layering is debuild -> dpkg-buildpackage -> dpkg-source | 01:40 |
| cnd | so is dpkg-buildpackage calling dh_clean and then dpkg-source? | 01:41 |
| cnd | yeah, man dpkg-buildpackage spells it out | 01:41 |
| cnd | alright, I'll poke some more | 01:41 |
| cnd | thanks :) | 01:41 |
| slangasek | dpkg-buildpackage is calling "dpkg-source -i -I --before-build xorg-gtest", then "fakeroot debian/rules clean", then "dpkg-source -i -I -b xorg-gtest" | 01:41 |
| slangasek | sure thing | 01:41 |
| cjwatson | slangasek: I've promoted python-debtagshw and its source package in order to unbreak things. Do you think it needs an MIR, given that it was previously in main and I don't remember this being a problem? | 02:15 |
| cjwatson | the original MIR predates our use of bugs for them; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportDebtags | 02:21 |
| * ScottK thought previously in Main was one of the "you don't need a MIR" reasons. | 02:26 | |
| cjwatson | I think I only asked because it was a while back. Normally, certainly yes. | 02:33 |
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| slangasek | cjwatson: not sure how much my opinion counts for there :) But debtags is pretty low-risk anyway... | 07:27 |
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| doko | cjwatson, slangasek java-atk-wrapper has a resolved MIR, pitti is just to quick to demote things ... :-/ | 09:06 |
| koolhead17 | cjwatson: hello there | 09:08 |
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| rrs | m4n1sh: You there. PM ? | 10:14 |
| m4n1sh | rrs: yes | 10:14 |
| rrs | Or let me ask here itself. | 10:14 |
| m4n1sh | yes, ask | 10:14 |
| rrs | I recently switched to Ubuntu. Impressed with the work. | 10:14 |
| rrs | My pbuilder (cowbuilder) is not honoring APTCACHE value. Do you have any clue? | 10:15 |
| rrs | Could something be interfering? Is the cow/pbuilder patched here? | 10:15 |
| m4n1sh | let me check | 10:15 |
| rrs | Could apparmor be denying? | 10:15 |
| rrs | I tries to acquire the cache (mine set is /var/cache/apt/archives/), stalls for 2 seconds, and then silently proceeds. I'm sure there's a failure there, just that it doesn't show up. | 10:16 |
| rrs | *It | 10:17 |
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| m4n1sh | rrs: this is the package https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/cowdancer/0.67 | 10:18 |
| rrs | yup | 10:18 |
| rrs | BTW, I'm using it for sid and precise. | 10:18 |
| m4n1sh | doesnt look patched, looks like a direct import | 10:18 |
| rrs | Followed the excellent howto by doko: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto | 10:18 |
| rrs | Just that the cache never gets honored. The cached packages are there in /var/cache/apt/archives/ . But on next build, it again triggers a download. | 10:19 |
| m4n1sh | that's bad. Bandwidth is limited | 10:19 |
| m4n1sh | does it work on sid? | 10:20 |
| rrs | Who'd be the cowbuilder maintainer here? | 10:20 |
| rrs | Yes. It used to. Now that I'm on ubuntu, can re-check it rightaway. | 10:20 |
| m4n1sh | yes | 10:20 |
| m4n1sh | and here is how to check for apparmour issue (if any) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingApparmor | 10:20 |
| rrs | I looked at that. | 10:21 |
| rrs | By that doc, and from what I investigated, apparmor only confines a set of apps. Not the entire system. So I doubt that apparmor is interfering. | 10:21 |
| rrs | Who'd be the cowbuilder maintainer here? Or should I just file the bug report? | 10:21 |
| m4n1sh | rrs: there is no specific maintainer | 10:22 |
| rrs | A Team ? | 10:22 |
| cjwatson | It's maintained in Debian. | 10:22 |
| m4n1sh | universe repository is in hands of MOTU ( #ubuntu-motu ) | 10:22 |
| rrs | Hello Colin. | 10:22 |
| cjwatson | We don't modify it for Ubuntu. | 10:22 |
| m4n1sh | rrs: Debian maintainer shows as "Junichi Uekawa <dancer@debian.org" | 10:23 |
| rrs | OKay!!! I guess I'll have to root cause it myself then :-) | 10:23 |
| m4n1sh | if you find the issue, then please try to fix it in ubuntu too | 10:24 |
| rrs | Definitely. I really love the desktop integration so far. | 10:24 |
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| dafox | hi all. Could anyone please clarify why the lcdlegacy filter does not seem to be present in the freetype package? | 14:21 |
| dafox | other settings in /etc/fonts/local.conf are respected, even setting lcdfilter none or slight, but no matter what I do I seem to be unable to get lcdlegacy. | 14:22 |
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| ion | dafox: If you’re using gnome-settings-daemon, it needs a patch not to override that setting. If you feel like trusting my PPA, the sharp-text-rendering package should fix the issue: https://launchpad.net/~ion/+archive/gsd-lcdfilter | 14:38 |
| dafox | ion: I have installed the sharp-text-ppa, but for some reason it doesn;t seem to be working | 14:38 |
| dafox | I installed it on another laptop last week, and there it did work | 14:39 |
| ion | Huh | 14:39 |
| dafox | the difference is that that was 'regular' ubuntu, and this is xubuntu. | 14:39 |
| ion | Ah, Xubuntu doesn’t use gnome-settings-daemon indeed. If you figure out how to fix the issue in Xubuntu, i’d be happy to add that change to the package. | 14:39 |
| dafox | I've been trying everything I can find, but nothing seems to work short of compiling freetype with the force_legacy option | 14:40 |
| dafox | ion: any ideas what could be wrong or where to look? | 14:40 |
| dafox | e.g. is this an xfce issue, or some other library? | 14:40 |
| ion | I’d try to figure out whether Xubuntu has some config files i’ve missed and whether it has some kind of a desktop settings daemon that overrides other configuration (à la gnome-settings-daemon). | 14:41 |
| dafox | I'll try | 14:42 |
| dafox | but the built-in freetype should have lcdlegacy built-in? (is there any way to check this?) | 14:43 |
| ion | grep the binaries, the source packages and/or the respective /usr/share/doc/*/changelogs. | 14:44 |
| ion | grep them for lcddefault since that’s what something forces your system to use. | 14:44 |
| dafox | tried the binaries already, it's not there (but neither on my other system), I'm looking into getting the source packages now but I'm not sure where to get them | 14:45 |
| dafox | launchpad probably? | 14:45 |
| ion | apt-get source packagename (but that’s not that helpful unless you already have an idea which packages you want to look at). | 14:46 |
| ion | The changelogs should have an entry about any lcdfilter-specific patches in installed packages. | 14:47 |
| dafox | but would that include the configuration? e.g. the configure line, or edits done to include/freetype/config/ftoption.h | 14:47 |
| ion | Difficult to say in advance. | 14:48 |
| dafox | ok | 14:49 |
| falkoned | I just can't stand this http://pastebin.com/smrNHCHe | 15:13 |
| falkoned | Ubuntu 10.04.3 amd64 | 15:13 |
| falkoned | how to fix this? | 15:13 |
| falkoned | many people filled a bug on launchpad | 15:15 |
| falkoned | no fix or workaround at the moment | 15:15 |
| falkoned | why even developers allow users to encrypt their /home when ecryptfs is so unstable and problematic? | 15:17 |
| falkoned | this should be disabled by default until these bugs will not be definitely fixed | 15:18 |
| falkoned | many other operating systems which have a way better support for encryption _do_not_ suggest by one-click way to encrypt any of filesystems as ubuntu does | 15:19 |
| falkoned | and this ecryptfs errors are horrifying as hell | 15:20 |
| falkoned | s/this/these | 15:20 |
| mdeslaur | falkoned: that is LP: #842647, please track progress there | 15:21 |
| falkoned | mdeslaur: so lets say some dev will fix this- will it affect release 10.04? | 15:23 |
| mdeslaur | falkoned: tyhicks would know | 15:24 |
| mdeslaur | tyhicks: ^ | 15:24 |
| dafox | ion: the xfce people are saying that it is impossible that xfce is at fault, since xfce-4.8 (which is used in xubuntu-11.10) does not yet support setting these options, and relies on fontconfig | 15:30 |
| koolhead17 | cjwatson: ping | 15:33 |
| mr_pouit | dafox: check your ~/.Xdefaults file too | 15:36 |
| falkoned | shouldn't we use ~/.Xresources these days? | 15:39 |
| dafox | mr_pouit: Thank you!! That was it! | 15:39 |
| dafox | the file was already there, and it contained .Xft rules setting the hinting to slight and the filter to default | 15:40 |
| dafox | mr_pouit: you're my hero of the day :D | 15:40 |
| falkoned | tyhicks: ping | 15:48 |
| ion | dafox: Duh :-D | 15:50 |
| dafox | still should probably file a bug | 15:52 |
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