[17:46] <Kano> apw: did you notice that there is aufs3
[22:25] <EvilResistance> is the ubuntu 3.0.x kernel backported to 11.04 (or available for 11.04)?
[22:26] <Kano> EvilResistance: you can simply install mainline. even 3.3
[22:26] <Kano> but you can get problems with extra modules
[22:26] <EvilResistance> Kano:  you'll have to define "mainline"... i've been out of the loop with kernel stuffs.
[22:26] <Kano> mainline=unpatched kernel code
[22:27] <Kano> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/?C=M;O=D
[22:27] <EvilResistance> any patched code?  the main reason i ask is because i'm curious about the power management patches, and whether they're in any of the kernels yet
[22:27] <Kano> but you need updates/fixes for nvidia/fglrx and such things
[22:28] <EvilResistance> mhm.
[22:28] <EvilResistance> will the patches and updates be in 12.04 LTS?
[22:28] <Kano> well when you dont need external modules then it is no problem at all to install a new kernel
[22:29] <Kano> what gfx card do you use?
[22:29] <bryceh> ( `lspci | grep VGA` )
[22:29] <EvilResistance> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G98M [Quadro NVS 160M] (rev a1)  <-- (from lspci)
[22:30] <EvilResistance> its on a 3 year old laptop so...
[22:30] <EvilResistance> :P
[22:31] <Kano> then most likely you use nvidia binary
[22:32] <Kano> i know patches to nv, but i only use u kernels and no u itself
[23:00] <bryceh> G98 may work fine with just -nouveau
[23:03] <Kano> depends on your definiting of work fine
[23:04] <ohsix> really depends on your proclivity for whining about things
[23:04] <EvilResistance> also depends on how much you care about the kernel complaining :P
[23:05] <Kano> i usually use latest nv beta if it has got no errors for me
[23:05] <ohsix> and how large the system latencies you can tolerate as it goes in and out of the blob
[23:05] <Kano> which was the case with 295.09, but 295.17 is fine
[23:05] <ohsix> does 295.17 do kms?
[23:06] <Kano> i dont need kms
[23:06] <Kano> do you need wayland?
[23:06] <ohsix> heheh, so that depends on your definition of fine
[23:06] <ohsix> no but i have a deep personal need to edit config files when i want to add a display
[23:08] <Kano> bryceh: reclocking support will often crash, using boot speed is a joke. i prefer dynamic clocks, vdpau i like as well
[23:12] <Kano> it is enough to see something in live mode