[01:45] <bkerensa> MarkDude: You about?
[01:45] <bkerensa> :D
[01:45] <MarkDude> Yes i am bkerensa
[01:45] <bkerensa> MarkDude: https://webfwd.org/about/scouts/index.html
[01:45] <bkerensa> go there and tell me if you recognize anyone on the page
[01:45] <bkerensa> :P
[01:46] <MarkDude>  The Power Behind the Throne.
[01:46] <bkerensa> LOL
[01:46] <MarkDude> Leslie is a Goddess
[01:46] <MarkDude> flat out
[01:46] <MarkDude> One of my favorite people
[01:46] <bkerensa> MarkDude: Scroll down once inch
[01:46] <MarkDude> let alone in FOSS
[01:46] <bkerensa> :P
[01:47] <bkerensa> one*
[01:47] <MarkDude> lol
[01:47]  * MarkDude saw Leslie, stopped scrolling
[01:47] <MarkDude> got bored
[01:47] <bkerensa> :P
[01:47] <MarkDude> then saw you
[01:47] <MarkDude> good pic
[01:47] <MarkDude> #likeaboss
[01:47] <bkerensa> indeed
[01:48] <bkerensa> I'm surprised I got selected by Mozilla
[01:48] <bkerensa> :D
[01:48] <akk> Leslie++
[01:48]  * MarkDude is not
[01:48] <MarkDude> You kick ass bkerensa
[01:48] <bkerensa> nah
[01:48] <bkerensa> I can name some people who do though
[01:48] <bkerensa> :D
[01:49] <bkerensa> Leslie is one of them
[01:49] <bkerensa> :D
[01:49] <MarkDude> akk, yep, she is cool person to see in Portland/conferences
[01:49] <bkerensa> I think my fav person in FOSS in Oregon is slangasek though... He is gifted in development
[01:51] <MarkDude> One year she had a card that said geek-at-large
[01:51] <akk> That's perfect -- she's everywhere.
[01:51] <akk> I think I actually met her first in Australia.
[01:51]  * MarkDude tried to get that to be his title at Zareason
[01:52] <bkerensa> MarkDude: So I talked to GroundKontrol they are good with us taking over for any events I just need to give them a week notice and they will let us use the place
[01:52] <bkerensa> Hmm Heroku employees have pretty awesome business cards
[01:53] <bkerensa> akk: She is globe trotter.... I think everytime I have pinged her last year she was out of country..... And some how she juggles so many hats... Very impressive
[01:53] <MarkDude> Ground Kontrol is waaaaaay cool place
[01:54] <MarkDude> See if Dual Core is coming out- they could be live there
[01:55] <bkerensa> MarkDude: I know I might go there tonight.... OSU OSL folks are currently in route on the Linux Bus for Ubuntu Hour and I told them go to GK and now they want me to go to that too but its mighty windy up here atm so I might just do dinner (Hour) and head home
[01:55] <MarkDude> but
[01:55] <MarkDude> OSU lab folks are hella fun
[01:56] <MarkDude> Throw down some money on retro games
[01:56] <bkerensa> We shall see... If our asst team lead makes it then I might talk him into driving me there otherwise I will probably stay out in NE
[01:56] <bkerensa> :D
[01:57] <bkerensa> I like that GK has some pretty wacky food items
[01:57] <grantbow> gk needs a website update though. Nothing in 2011?
[01:57] <MarkDude> Well for eating - I like going to backspace
[01:58] <MarkDude> and getting hotlips soda, and some Hippie food
[01:58] <MarkDude> BS has good live music, fun to be on computer and have concert
[01:58] <bkerensa> grantbow: http://groundkontrol.com/
[01:59] <grantbow> ah, different gk
[01:59] <MarkDude> Parenthetical Girls and StarF*cker were good shows there
[01:59] <MarkDude> Oh, and a group called the Bowmans
[01:59] <MarkDude> Kid you not...
[01:59] <bkerensa> :D
[02:00] <grantbow> lol
[02:00] <bkerensa> MarkDude: When u come up again in the Spring... Me, You and Chris should hit up The Alibi over by the Rose Garden
[02:00] <bkerensa> Chris is coming I hope?
[02:00] <MarkDude> http://thebowmansmusic.com/
[02:01] <MarkDude> Most likely
[02:01] <MarkDude> Maybe Courtney also
[02:02] <bkerensa> I dont know who that is
[02:02] <bkerensa> :D
[02:02] <grantbow> you will :D
[02:02] <MarkDude> Oh yes,
[02:02]  * MarkDude assumes everyone knows her
[02:03] <bkerensa> I will probably spend far less time at OSCON this year :P
[02:03] <bkerensa> especially since I live really close to convention center now and can go home and nap
[02:03] <MarkDude> Dude, OSCON is good for talking to people in hallways
[02:03] <MarkDude> forget most sessions
[02:03] <bkerensa> sessions were extremely boring
[02:04] <bkerensa> except for the one that Jono and the Perl guy did
[02:04] <bkerensa> :D
[02:04] <bkerensa> The guy that was singing about libraries
[02:04] <MarkDude> Well Bryan Smith had a good session on micro computers
[02:04] <MarkDude> You mean Randall Shwartz?
[02:05] <bkerensa> Uhh idk the guy with the floppy balloon hat
[02:05] <bkerensa> :D
[02:05] <grantbow> I hope there will be at least one session on http://www.raspberrypi.org/
[02:05] <bkerensa> grantbow: Are you coming up?
[02:06]  * MarkDude plans on taking grantbow and throwing him in trunk if he has no plans on going
[02:06] <MarkDude> Here ya go G, it Portland
[02:06] <grantbow> not sure yet
[02:06] <bkerensa> MarkDude: Philipballew is coming... You guys could all pull your resources and make a cheap trip out of it
[02:06] <MarkDude> Well funding can be arranged Sir, hit me up
[02:07] <bkerensa> MarkDude: I'm still waiting for a response from Jon or Marsee on dot com booths
[02:07] <bkerensa> :D
[02:07]  * MarkDude has car paid for as well as a few rooms
[02:08] <MarkDude> might rent a house for the week. Ryan Singer did that 2 years ago
[02:08] <MarkDude> Hmmm, maybe you can help look at a house
[02:09] <MarkDude> With a car already going- it will make it much cheaper
[02:09] <MarkDude> If we can get house- even cheaper
[02:10]  * MarkDude plans on being there at least 2 weeks 
[02:10] <MarkDude> so return may have to different
[02:10] <MarkDude> In which case, if grantbow has to be back at different time
[02:10] <bkerensa> MarkDude: Airbnb sometimes has awesome prices up here
[02:10] <MarkDude> another car could be rented
[02:11] <MarkDude> CLS also
[02:11] <bkerensa> I need to find a place to buy some decent gloves.. My hands keep getting cold but I dont like those knit gloves :9
[02:11]  * MarkDude has his pair of gloves
[02:11] <MarkDude> sitting
[02:11] <MarkDude> wore them in Virginia
[02:11] <akk> Better hurry -- stores will be stopping selling gloves soon, if they haven't already.
[02:11] <MarkDude> and not since ;P
[02:11] <bkerensa> MarkDude: Yes CLS.... I'm going to hold a session on Kickstarting Local Engagement in FOSS
[02:12] <akk> They're probably starting to stock up on swimsuits by now.
[02:12] <MarkDude> lol akk
[02:12] <bkerensa> akk: Well I dont know where to start... I went to Fred Meyer and they didnt have any except those cheap kind the knit ones which seem to thick and hard to grab and do stuff with
[02:12] <bkerensa> :D
[02:12] <bkerensa> Maybe swing out to Walmart this weekend
[02:12]  * MarkDude palns on picking some controversial topic, and see how many show up for the trainwreeck
[02:13] <bkerensa> MarkDude: Ugh who was that OpenOffice guy? I swear he was going to start a riot in his session
[02:13] <bkerensa> he kept snapping at everyone
[02:13] <MarkDude> lol
[02:13] <akk> bkerensa: Department stores sell isotoner and similar sorts of gloves -- that's what I use for things like driving or cold weather biking.
[02:13] <MarkDude> He who must not be named
[02:14] <MarkDude> I talked with someone else in that session
[02:14] <MarkDude> She almsot kiled him
[02:14] <bkerensa> I walked out
[02:14] <bkerensa> and everyone was like giving eachother this look of.... Is this guy serious?
[02:14] <MarkDude> It was like- um,  dude, people are followijng the rules dont freak out
[02:14] <MarkDude> He is really smart guy
[02:14] <bkerensa> People would ask something or say something and he would be like... NO
[02:14] <akk> You realize that anyone here who wasn't at that session is completely confused, reading this.
[02:15] <bkerensa> yeah no doubt but he seemed very rough
[02:15] <MarkDude> Just a bit towards aspbergers (sp?)
[02:15] <bkerensa> MarkDude: Louis Suarez-Potts
[02:15] <MarkDude> akk well once it started with this dude was a d bag...
[02:15] <bkerensa> Thats him ^
[02:15] <MarkDude> naming names would be
[02:15] <MarkDude> well
[02:15]  * MarkDude knows 
[02:16] <akk> Mostly curious about what he did.
[02:16] <MarkDude> So he kept telling folks to calm down
[02:16] <bkerensa> I'm not saying anything that was not said in front of him... He is not a bad person he was just being rough
[02:16] <MarkDude> and they were not waiting to talk
[02:16] <MarkDude> and they were following rules
[02:16] <bkerensa> Yeah people would talk or share an opinion and he would just abruptly cut them off or tell them NO or your wrong etc
[02:17] <akk> lovely
[02:17] <bkerensa> at the end people started walking out on him and one lady called him out
[02:17]  * MarkDude had Oracle and MS and all sorts of evil compinies in his session
[02:17] <bkerensa> I walked out
[02:17] <bkerensa> :D
[02:17] <MarkDude> but made sure no one was bashing
[02:17] <MarkDude> or jumping
[02:17] <MarkDude> He is a great writer
[02:18] <MarkDude> He sorta acts like Prof
[02:18] <bkerensa> akk: He was holding a session on forking... and since he is with OpenOffice I guess perhaps he was disappointed about people forking projects hence LibreOffice
[02:18] <bkerensa> :D
[02:18] <akk> Does openoffice still exist? I thought the project basically changed into libreoffice.
[02:18] <pleia2> yeah, apache adopted it
[02:18] <akk> So there are both now?
[02:18] <pleia2> yeah, it's very odd
[02:19] <MarkDude> yay for forking
[02:19] <MarkDude> and wasting time
[02:19] <pleia2> it wasn't a waste of time, oracle was being truly awful
[02:19] <akk> Hmm, I should try openoffice, then. I'm mega-annoyed at libreoffice for taking away the ability to bind Delete to a key.
[02:20] <bkerensa> pleia2: I wish they didnt have mysql
[02:20] <bkerensa> :P
[02:20] <pleia2> bkerensa: yeah, but mysql has always been an odd duck
[02:20] <bkerensa> but at least MySQL's Community Manager is a really amazing guy who can joke about how evil his employer is
[02:20] <bkerensa> :D
[02:20] <bkerensa> publicly
[02:20] <bkerensa> :D
[02:20] <bkerensa> True
[02:21] <pleia2> I can't imagine he'd be able to tolerate his job if he couldn't be open about it, his employer /is/ evil ;)
[02:21] <pleia2> I don't tend to hate companies or corporations (I work for one), but oracle is meaniehead
[02:21] <MarkDude> rofl
[02:21] <MarkDude> true
[02:22] <bkerensa> Corporations can be good.... Some can be bad
[02:22] <akk> Strangely, they actually had some good linux work going on a while back (5+ years ago).
[02:22] <pleia2> yeah, and they were one of the earlier big names to get their flagship product running on approved linux systems
[02:22] <akk> All the major companies seem to do this oscillation thing with open source, though, where they pledge undying love for linux then 2 months later, act like they've never heard of it.
[02:23] <bkerensa> lol
[02:23] <akk> (Sun, HP, Dell, AMD ... IBM and Intel less so)
[02:23] <akk> I had a boyfriend like that once. Don't recommend it. :)
[02:23] <pleia2> hehe
[02:23] <bkerensa> Google has been very supportive of the Linux Community IMHO
[02:24] <akk> Yeah, Google is a lot more consistent. Though not entirely good (like withholding Android source).
[02:24] <akk> But a lot less flaky than the others.
[02:24] <bkerensa> Companies like PuppetLabs for instance will bend over backwards for FOSS...
[02:24] <bkerensa> They have sponsored almost every event we have had and had their employees work on weekends to accommodate us
[02:25] <MarkDude> Well - some companies would be tooooo stresful to work for
[02:25] <bkerensa> No doubt
[02:25] <MarkDude> I mean MS is evil- I have heard its pretty decent in some sections
[02:26] <MarkDude> Oracle - not so much
[02:26] <MarkDude> i heard the bosses have tasers and whips
[02:26] <akk> heh
[02:26] <akk> plus you have to take turns cleaning the deck of Larry's boat with a toothbrush.
[02:27] <bkerensa> I heard that Larry asked the City of San Francisco to tear down the docks by Fishermans Wharf for his boat racing thing
[02:27] <bkerensa> is that true?
[02:28] <akk> I think that might be an exaggeration, but I think they are doing some remodeling for America's Cup spectators.
[02:29] <bkerensa> Huh
[02:30] <bkerensa> well I gotta run literally to make it
[02:30] <bkerensa> bye
[02:31] <MarkDude> yes bkerensa
[02:31] <MarkDude> He asked for all sorts of extra things
[02:31] <MarkDude> And got them
[02:32] <MarkDude> At Oakland A's game- at Coliseum- nright next to Oracle arena
[02:33] <MarkDude> Biggest cheer I have seen in a hile- was people liking Oracle boat over turning in race
[02:33] <MarkDude> Slow motion on big screen
[07:45] <pleia2> finished up https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/TeamReports/12/January
[09:35] <bkerensa> MarkDude: I met some of your Fedora friends tonight :D