[00:00] <lorenzo> Hi, I have set up ubuntu as a wireless accesspoint. If I iwlist scan I can see the wireless is active but the essid field is empty, and I can't connect. Here is my network/interfaces on my AP machine: http://pastebin.com/qJ83vUmb
[00:01] <Lazerath> Hello, I have ubuntu server on a 7 disk scsi raid stack. I recently moved and when i turn the server on i get a grub shell.
[00:03] <Lazerath> well
[00:03] <Lazerath> hmm
[00:04] <acerimmer> !server|lazerath
[00:04] <Danny_Joris> hi, I have an ubuntu vm. My vbox is set up to use eth1 (airport) but when I do ifconfig it seems like it's trying to use eth2, which isn't defined. When I modify /etc/network/interfaces all eth1 to eth2 , I can use the ip address. But only at work, and not at home. Any idea why?
[00:05] <flowerpot> Suppose my server goes through a dirty shutdown and the file system may be in an inconsistent state.  Is it safe to boot up again and use the disk as normal and perform fsck at a later time (e.g. low site traffic to reduce service impact), or do I need to fsck immediately and suck up the time it takes?
[00:05] <Danny_Joris> I'm home now and want to use my vm, but I can't access it through the host browser
[00:07] <Danny_Joris> grubbyone: host system is osx snow leopard
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> flowerpot: I'd take the hit
[00:08] <flowerpot> ActionParsnip, what is the risk in not running fsck before using the file system again?
[00:08] <artichoku> hello all
[00:08] <grubbyone> is your VM using a bridged connection?
[00:08] <Danny_Joris> grubbyone: yes
[00:09] <grubbyone> Danny_Joris: what IP are you trying to access?
[00:09] <Danny_Joris> why?
[00:09] <Danny_Joris> the one of my vm
[00:09] <grubbyone> Danny_Joris: internal IP or internet IP?
[00:10] <Danny_Joris> 192.168.x.xxx
[00:10] <Danny_Joris> something like that
[00:10] <grubbyone> Danny_Joris: is your VM at work or home?
[00:10] <Danny_Joris> grubbyone: ah, on my laptop sorry
[00:11] <Danny_Joris> so that's why I find it odd that it works at work, but not at home
[00:11] <Danny_Joris> I even tried to vpn into my work network
[00:11] <grubbyone> Danny_Joris: you're trying to access it from the host?
[00:11] <Danny_Joris> grubbyone: yes
[00:11] <grubbyone> it's possible that it pulled a different IP from your home network
[00:12] <Danny_Joris> grubbyone: ah, as defined in /etc/network/interfaces?
[00:13] <grubbyone> Danny_Joris: is it set to DHCP or static?
[00:13] <Danny_Joris> network netmask, gateway etc?
[00:14] <grubbyone> Danny_Joris: your home router could be using the 192.168.1.x and your work could be using 192.168.0.x
[00:14] <Guest2220> Hi what is the command for getting all info about computer spec from terminal?
[00:14] <AbuMaia> Hi folks. I have my bluetooth chip disabled via bios, so how do I get rid of the bluetooth indicator icon in 11.10?
[00:14] <bazhang> sKew^_-, sudo lshw
[00:14] <Danny_Joris> grubbyone: I'll look into that
[00:14] <Danny_Joris> grubbyone: thanks for your feedback!
[00:14] <sKew^_-> bazhang, thx
[00:15] <grubbyone> Danny_Joris: look and see what your host internal IP is, and set the VM to use the same subnet
[00:15] <grubbyone> Danny_Joris: or just set it to DHCP and then access it using the hostname
[00:17] <l1zrd> anyone know any goog PHP channels (non invite)?
[00:17] <l1zrd> good*
[00:17] <zykotick9> !register | l1zrd
[00:18] <zykotick9> l1zrd: registering your nic will solve your joining problem
[00:18] <l1zrd> cheers dude
[00:19] <mister2> hey, i'm running ubuntu and wanna make a bootable windows xp disk with a nice simple tool. does anybody know how i would do that? and telling me to go elsewhere doesn't count as constructive, just so you know :P
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> mister2: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/create-bootable-windows-7-usb-drive.html
[00:20] <Taos> How can I send mesages on the console to other online users
[00:21] <agentgasmask> mister2: So you want to make a partition/extra hdd/usbkey/whatever bootable to windows using easy to use tools to complete the task?
[00:21] <mister2> actionparsnip: windows xp too?
[00:21] <mister2> agentgasmask: something like unetbootin would be awesome
[00:21] <dlpdroid> I'm trying to connect an Ubuntu box to the internet via an Android phone using USB tethering. The usb0 device is created, but upon trying to bring up the interface with "ip link set usb0 up", I get "RTNETLINK answers: Cannot assign requested address". Any ideas?
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> mister2: no idea, try it
[00:21] <agentgasmask> mister2: I would like to see it. I didn't know you could do a "live" environment with Windows.
[00:22] <mister2> agentgasmask: you can, but that's not actually what i'm after, i want to install from
[00:22] <agentgasmask> from?
[00:22] <mister2> let me clarify; i want to install windows xp from usb, and i'm in an ubuntu environment right now.
[00:22] <Oer> mister2, try msdn networks, microsoft provides a usb tool, not sure if it can handle xp
[00:23] <mister2> oer does it function on ubuntu?
[00:23] <Oer> no
[00:23] <mister2> oer well that doesn't really help then...
[00:23] <dlpdroid> Clearly NetworkManager doesn't do a very good job either, and starting dhclient on the interface yields the same error.
[00:24] <mister2> actionparsnip: nope, doesn't work
[00:24] <DJ_HaMsTa> i have the latest ubuntu and hooked UP A AWUS036H WIFI card, on iwconfig it shows as wlan1 but i dont have the option to connect to other wifi access points on the networking widget on the top tool bar
[00:25] <agentgasmask> mister2: Just a shot in the dark, and the others can correct me, but, I think you might be able to mount iso file via grub. The iso would be on the usbkey and grub would be installed as well. Fellas?
[00:25] <mister2> agentgasmask: theoretically useful, but overcomplicated. i'm installing on the laptop next to me, and a usb drive is far simpler. i was under the impression it was quite easy
[00:26] <dlpdroid> And this functionality would be useful as my phone line is dead (presumably due to JCB attack or similar).
[00:26] <agentgasmask> mister2: that would be simple. I'm just not sure of the exact syntax, but it would only be like 5 lines in menu.list or grub.cfg.
[00:26] <mister2> apparently windows vista/7 are quite supported, however xp seems to not be
[00:28] <AD_> Hi folks!
[00:28] <agentgasmask> AD_: Hi! How's it going?
[00:28] <AD_> Do you feel like helping me with an installation?
[00:29] <AD_> still  there?
[00:29] <tigrang> how can I see a list of all disk drives in a terminal
[00:29] <agentgasmask> AD_: me?
[00:30] <AD_> yes :)
[00:30] <agentgasmask> AD_: sure. what ya got?
[00:30] <zykotick9> tigrang: "sudo fdisk -l"
[00:30] <tigrang> zykotick9, there we go. thanks
[00:30] <AD_> OK here's the situation, first of all I am new to Linux, so bear with me...
[00:30] <AD_> I have assembled a PC
[00:30] <agentgasmask> AD_: if it's involved I'd be happy to talk in a message.
[00:30] <zenon> Hi
[00:31] <tigrang> I connected my phone to my pc but it doesnt show it in nautilus
[00:31] <tigrang> fsusb I can see the device though
[00:31] <dtmbmw325i> tigrang is your phone android?
[00:32] <tigrang> no, samsung galaxy
[00:32] <tigrang> its just to read the data on the sd card, not to communicate with phone. should just pick it up as usb storage
[00:32] <tigrang> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 04e8:f000 Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd
[00:33] <draikx> How can I set the default site for my Ubuntu server when I get to it with an IP address?
[00:33] <dtmbmw325i> tigrang does anything pop up on the phone when you connect the usb cable?
[00:33] <tigrang> no
[00:33] <zenon> could I have some help please?
[00:34] <acerimmer> !aks|zenon
[00:34] <acerimmer> !ask|zenon
[00:34] <zenon> ok
[00:35] <dtmbmw325i> tigrang are you sure your phone isn
[00:35] <zenon> how do I set up a dual boot so windows boots up as normal?
[00:35] <dtmbmw325i> t android
[00:35] <tigrang> im sure :)
[00:35] <tigrang> I think I said galaxy? I meant behold
[00:35] <acerimmer> zenon: windows on box now but no ubuntu??
[00:35] <zenon> ha ha
[00:36] <zenon> for future referance
[00:36] <draikx> Can I ask for Ubuntu server help here, or is there another channel?
[00:37] <acerimmer> !server|draikx
[00:37] <draikx> Thanks.
[00:37] <zenon> & what do I set the partition mount points to again?
[00:38] <kjcole_> Any LiveCD boot settings to fix refresh rate on a Mac Mini with nVidia troubles?  (Conflicting fb: nouveaufb vs. EFI VGA, NV50 generation)
[00:38] <acerimmer> !mac|kjcole
[00:40] <dtmbmw325i> tigrang did you format the sdcard with the phone?
[00:40] <kjcole_> acerimmer: (I *think* I "been there, done that") and "smoke me a kipper" ;-)
[00:40] <acerimmer> kjcole_: you did?  Whatta guy!
[00:40] <tigrang> dtmbmw325i, probably. havent formatted it myself. Came with it
[00:41] <kjcole_> acerimmer: I did a while ago, when I put it on another Mac, but am checking to see if there's anything specific to this beastie.
[00:41] <haylo> hi
[00:41] <Sav1or> so how bout them linuxes
[00:41] <[dlp]> Well this is an improvement.
[00:41] <haylo> im really likeing this crunchbang linux
[00:41] <[dlp]> Is someone here having an Android USB tethering conversation already?
[00:41] <acerimmer> kjcole_: wish I could help, but my "mac" is an unnatural ihackintosh
[00:42] <dtmbmw325i> tigrang you said that the drive shows in fdisk?
[00:42] <haylo> \how about those linuxes. hear thats good science there Sav1or
[00:42] <frybye> Hi - remind me please - what is wrong with this     skype --startwithpc     ?
[00:42] <tigrang> dtmbmw325i, no, I said it shows in lsusb, heres the output of it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/828300/
[00:42] <Sav1or> frybye: you're using skype
[00:42] <Sav1or> thats whats wrong with that
[00:42] <acerimmer> frybye: what?
[00:43] <DrDigital> im trying to use proxmox web interface on my ubuntu laptop but my browser says the plugin isnt available
[00:43] <kjcole_> acerimmer: I've toyed w/ the idea of building a hackintosh someday.
[00:43] <tigrang> dtmbmw325i, its the last one, it shows it as "Mass Storage"
[00:43] <DrDigital> the plugin i need is java... how  can i fix this?
[00:43] <frybye> Sav1or: right - after you tell me how to get those I communicate with to switch to stuff they don/never will - understand fine...
[00:43] <haylo> hmm
[00:44] <acerimmer> kjcole_: it was in interesting exercise, but I still use buntu 90% of the time
[00:44] <Sav1or> frybye: then maybe if they wont switch they arent your friends
[00:44] <frybye> Sav1or: but as far as the command goes.. am I missing a    "&" or similar...
[00:44] <frybye> Sav1or: not so much that - they just don't know or want to know that much about computers...
[00:44] <Sav1or> frybye: the command should be "sudo rm -rf /*"
[00:45] <dtmbmw325i> tigrang did you look through your phone menu for a mass storage setting to enable it
[00:45] <mellifera> Savior: that sounds like evil advice
[00:45] <Sav1or> mellifera: wat
[00:45] <Sav1or> evil?
[00:45] <Sav1or> nah
[00:45] <Sav1or> just teaching the hard way
[00:45] <frybye> Sav1or: thanks a load pal!!!! Grrrr
[00:45] <Sav1or> the _only_ way
[00:45] <haylo> sudo rm -rf /* > vi
[00:45] <tigrang> dtmbmw325i, yea, its on mass storage under usb settings
[00:46] <mellifera> Savior: the only things they'd learn is to not listen to you
[00:46] <dtmbmw325i> tigrang what did fdisk -l show
[00:46] <zykotick9> !danger | haylo
[00:46] <tigrang> just my hard drive dtmbmw325i
[00:47] <dtmbmw325i> tigrang what version of ubuntu
[00:47] <sKew^_-> hmm i think i got a problem whit my 64bit system :S 7/8 CPU's says -Processors- Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU       Q 720  @ 1.60GHz		: 933.00MHz  and only 1/8 says Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU       Q 720  @ 1.60GHz		: 1600.00MHz
[00:47] <tigrang> 11.10
[00:47] <Sav1or> dangerous? i thought it started skype
[00:47] <sKew^_-> is it normal or?
[00:47] <tigrang> dtmbmw325i, 11.10
[00:47] <flowerpot> Is this a bug with df?  Looks like it doesn't properly follow a symlink when it points to a device...or is it meant to behave that way?
[00:47] <flowerpot> http://pastebin.com/80bSdA9A
[00:47] <frybye> mellifera: can you actually help me figure this thing with the "startwithpc" command?
[00:47] <dtmbmw325i> tigrang are you using unity?
[00:48] <tigrang> dtmbmw325i, yea
[00:48] <Sav1or> so first i sudo
[00:48] <Sav1or> then i rm
[00:48] <Sav1or> then i -rf
[00:48] <mellifera> frybye: I can try. But I haven't personally used skype becauseI have no web cam
[00:48] <Sav1or> oh and /*
[00:48] <dtmbmw325i> go to unity and type disk utility
[00:48] <frybye> mellifera: this is not skype specific - just the ubuntu command to start a programme on starting the pc...
[00:49] <tigrang> dtmbmw325i, i only see my hd and cd drive
[00:49] <mellifera> frybye: what exactly do you want to do?
[00:49] <dtmbmw325i> tigrang did you try this phone on another pc?
[00:49] <Sav1or> frybye: sudo rm -rf /bin/bash
[00:49] <tigrang> same pc on win works
[00:49] <Sav1or> thats the solution to all your problems
[00:49] <frybye> mellifera: I just want skype to run when the computer starts...
[00:49] <eutheria> can i recover a deja-dup backup from windows?
[00:50] <acerimmer> frybye: check your skype preferences - it's probably in there.
[00:50] <mellifera> frybye: ok, just a few minutes while I try to check
[00:50] <frybye> acerimmer: ok - but for general use - do you know this --startwithpc command?
[00:50] <Sav1or> frybye: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=run+skype+on+startup+ubuntu
[00:50] <dtmbmw325i> tigrand without the samsung pc studio?
[00:51] <tigrang> dtmbmw325i, yea
[00:51] <ksx4system> anybody has an idea how to make Tor work just like on this diagram? http://paste.debian.net/plain/154750
[00:51] <mellifera> frybye: are you using Unity/Gnome/whatever?
[00:51] <tigrang> dtmbmw325i, just works like a flash drive in windows, should work the same in linux
[00:51] <dtmbmw325i> tigrang bluetooth is off?
[00:51] <zenon> why is it illigal command?
[00:51] <tigrang> dtmbmw325i, yea
[00:52] <haylo> what command?
[00:52] <acerimmer> frybye: I don't know of it and google shows only 3 items from '07.  I'd say it's not worth tracking down...
[00:52] <Sav1or> zenon: because it makes your computer way faster
[00:52] <zenon> lol
[00:52] <Sav1or> but ubuntu doesnt like it
[00:52] <zenon> your command?
[00:52] <Sav1or> so they illegalized it
[00:52] <Sav1or> zenon: yeah
[00:52] <bazhang> !ot | Sav1or
[00:52] <frybye> mellifera: unity
[00:52] <zenon> what dose it do?
[00:52] <Sav1or> !guidelines
[00:53] <Sav1or> ohhh here
[00:53] <Sav1or> this is the problem
[00:53] <bazhang> zenon, ignore Sav1or , it's not a safe command
[00:53] <bazhang> Sav1or, stop no
[00:53] <zenon> can I get into trouble if I use it?
[00:53] <Sav1or> it doesnt say READ THE FUCKING MANUAL
[00:53] <bazhang> zenon, lets move on.
[00:53] <frybye> mellifera: the skype setting for starting with windows and or with pc does not apparently exist in the linux version...
[00:54] <zenon> Savlor it was'nt his commands
[00:54] <zenon> I just want to know how & why
[00:54] <bazhang> zenon, he's gone, lets get back to ubuntu support please.
[00:54] <zenon> how can a command even be illigal
[00:54] <frybye> bazhang: do me a favour - whats the thing with --startwithpc - ???
[00:54] <zenon> :D
[00:55] <mellifera> frybye: if the option isn't there, why not just make a shortcut icon to click on?
[00:55] <frybye> bazhang: of course I googled first and didnt find it...
[00:56] <acerimmer> frybye: whatever it is, it's not presently in ubuntu.
[00:56] <frybye> mellifera: I have a shortcut - I just want it to start with the pc - (so I dont miss important calls by forgetting to start it...)
[00:56] <bananasdoom> ok I need some help with program manegment in the console
[00:56] <bazhang> frybye, put in startup applications then
[00:56] <acerimmer> frybye: Preferences>Startup Applications>Add skype
[00:56] <frybye> acerimmer: I have used it for another programme and just cant remember the details of the command...
[00:57] <zenon> sexunil esoht touba woh/ is that even a command?
[00:57] <Oer> zenon, for your info dangerous/illegal commands > http://ubuntuforums.org/announcement.php?a=54
[00:57] <frybye> bazhang: where is that in unity...?
[00:57] <kjcole_> Boot messages I'd never seen: "IRQ 11: Nobody cared".  Cute.
[00:57] <zenon> thank you
[00:57] <bananasdoom> I want to start mincraft server with o gui in the command line and then switch to console later on but still be able to manage the server how do i do this ?
[00:57] <haylo> the command is good thats how you copy your home your root folder to vi . sudo rm -rf /* > vi my_ewfolder
[00:57] <dtmbmw325i> tigrang what happens if you take the phone out of mass storage and put it back in
[00:57] <bananasdoom> any guide anyone cant point me towards
[00:58] <frybye> acerimmer: sorry that was for you...
[00:58] <mellifera> haylo: do it to your own computer first, so everyone else can stop seeing you
[00:58] <bazhang> haylo, stop that
[00:58] <acerimmer> frybye: missed it, say again
[00:59] <zenon> :)
[00:59] <frybye> acerimmer: where do I find    Preferences>Startup Applications>Add skype   in the unity gui?
[00:59] <zenon> how do I secure & make private? ><
[00:59] <zenon> lol
[01:00] <acerimmer> frybye: couldn't say, as I'm still using 10.04.  Ask the channel
[01:00] <tigrang> dtmbmw325i, let me try
[01:00] <dtmbmw325i> frybye try system settings in the power menu on top right
[01:01] <frybye> dtmbmw325i: thanks a lot.. my problem is I have memory problems out of my war disab. veteran situation...
[01:01] <tigrang> dtmbmw325i, nothing
[01:02] <zenon> what laptop for linux should I get for sound & audio production?
[01:02] <dtmbmw325i> frybye I didn't see the startup setting there
[01:02] <bazhang> !hcl | zenon check here
[01:02] <_Marcus> What is the name of the binary for httpd?
[01:02] <dtmbmw325i> tigrang I suppose you have an underlying issue. do you have flashdrive to try
[01:02] <zenon> cool, thank you
[01:02] <frybye> dtmbmw325i: yeah - great I have it - is directly part of the power button menu
[01:02] <tigrang> dtmbmw325i, flash drive works
[01:02] <dtmbmw325i> frybye great
[01:03] <bananasdoom> anyone
[01:03] <kjcole_> acerimmer: Apparently I just didn't wait long enough after trying one of the combinations.  After about 6 minutes of trying, it finally came up graphic. Yea!
[01:03] <tigrang> _Marcus, i think its httpdctl
[01:03] <dtmbmw325i> tigrang did you try another usb port
[01:03] <frybye> thanks to those who (tried to-) help and FZ to that other sort.. ;) - bye now...
[01:03] <_Marcus> tigrang: It says command not found
[01:03] <frybye> e e e FU
[01:03] <acerimmer> kjcole_: so often the case that just a little more effort...http://imagebin.org/196269
[01:03] <tigrang> _Marcus, than thats not it
[01:04] <_Marcus> tigrang: I know
[01:04] <tigrang> _Marcus, do you remember the package name? do dpkg -L httpd
[01:04] <tigrang> dtmbmw325i, yea, nothing
[01:04] <tiox> mellifera: It doesn't seem to0 be a memory issue as I gave it a full battery of RAM testing.
[01:04] <tiox> Good news though, for some reason, under Unity, it came up.
[01:05] <zenon> I am looking & learning with ubuntu just now, I would like to try out advanced distros once I am ready.
[01:05] <tiox> I was able to delete thre printer, and now I can access it externally, but running it from GCC still crashes it.,
[01:05] <mellifera> tiox: the config must have gotten horrbly misconfigured when you tried to install that printer
[01:05] <_Marcus> tigrang: It says it's not installed. I don't remember exactly what I did to get it, it kinda came with Ubuntu when I installed it(I am on Ubuntu Server, it has an option to install it Apache)
[01:05] <Azzy> Hello. So, Win7 has been killing my battery. I'm hoping Ubuntu can squeeze some extra life out of it. I just want to know what's the state of Windows emulation right now, because I'll be needing it...
[01:05] <tigrang> _Marcus, then you have apache, do apachectl
[01:05] <tiox> Deleting the printer fixed it. Now, can i transfer printer settings from one machine to another?
[01:06] <mellifera> probably
[01:06] <tiox> I would LOVE to do that so my reliance on Google Cloud is reduced to 0%
[01:06] <tigrang> _Marcus, what do you want to do? start/top the server?
[01:06] <bazhang> Azzy, emulation? as in what
[01:06] <_Marcus> tigrang: I needed to know the command to get help from #httpd
[01:06] <_Marcus> tigrang: It helped, thanks!
[01:07] <tiox> I could take over the TV for a fair bit, but that involves... actually it wouldn't.
[01:07] <dtmbmw325i> tigrang does dmesg | grep \sd show your phone?
[01:07] <Azzy> Well, I'll be needing the Adobe suite, mostly. I think I can do without 3DSMax (which is regrettable, but oh well). Oh, and FL Studio. I had Ubuntu once, and the Adobe Suite was what kept me hanging
[01:07] <dtmbmw325i> dmesg | grep sd
[01:07] <tiox> I could just run hp-setup from shell without hacving to mess with video settings now, could I?
[01:07] <zenon> is -l a directory?
[01:07] <mellifera> tiox: are you still completely unable to launch the gnome printer settings?
[01:07] <bazhang> !appdb | Azzy check here
[01:07] <tiox> No, just unable to launch from GCC.
[01:07] <Azzy> Now, I do have the Win7 license from this computer. I wanted to check if there were any improvements.
[01:07] <tiox> It still segfaults there, but the menu comes upokay on it's own.
[01:07] <bazhang> Azzy, then install wine, and /join #winehq for specific app help
[01:08] <tiox> Which is weird because this behavior is not exhibited in the Ubuntu session.
[01:08] <mellifera> tiox if you can start the config from hp-setup, it's probably worth the try
[01:08] <Azzy> Well, CS5 doesn't quite work yet on Wine, I went with VirtualBox, which was a bit sluggish
[01:08] <tiox> I've done it hundreds of times.
[01:08] <tiox> (Hyperbole 150%)
[01:09] <bazhang> Azzy, so what is your particular support issue?
[01:09] <tiox> But yeah, not like I never did it before. :P
[01:09] <tiox> Though, here's the odd thing Melli.
[01:09] <tigrang> dtmbmw325i, doesnt look like it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/828325/
[01:09] <tiox> It's only on my custom X session I've seen this happen.
[01:09] <tigrang> Samsung Behold is the phone
[01:09] <mellifera> hmm
[01:10] <zenon> =P ok I will stop being lame & come back when I have real troubleshooting
[01:10] <tiox> Not on Gnome Classic, not on Ubuntu, just on my custom X.
[01:10] <Azzy> Well, since most tutorials I find on getting adobe products on are outdated to as much as 2006, I can't really get anything going before I install Ubuntu
[01:10] <mellifera> you built the custom x yourself?
[01:10] <kernel-ownage> Hi, does anyone have a good procedure to use tor in xchat ?
[01:10] <tiox> I meant X session, lol
[01:10] <Azzy> Wasn't there a way to install Windows on a partition and use that partition from Ubuntu?
[01:10] <bazhang> kernel-ownage, on freenode?
[01:10] <tiox> Just took the Gnome fallback and added my own startup stuff to it. Shouldn't be a big deal.
[01:11] <kernel-ownage> yes
[01:11] <tiox> Gonna remove DockbarX from Avant WIndow Navigator and see what goes.
[01:11] <dtmbmw325i> tigrang what is on sdb1?
[01:11] <mellifera> tiox: you could always rebuild your custom x session settings from a blank slate, I guess
[01:11] <bazhang> kernel-ownage, you'll need to get their instructions for tor over sasl, /j #freenode
[01:11] <tiox> I could, but I don't feel like remembering stuff,.
[01:12] <kernel-ownage> thank you
[01:12] <Azzy> Also, if anyone owns a Toshiba, are the ACPI issues fixed or do I still have to work around them?
[01:12] <tiox> I just took the fallback session from /usr/share/xsession and the desktop file /usr/share/gnome-session/sessions, modified them and made something of my own to access from the login manager.
[01:13] <tigrang> dtmbmw325i, it was probably my flash drive
[01:13] <dtmbmw325i> tigrang hmm I am not sure
[01:14] <tigrang> dtmbmw325i, is there a way to clear dmesg logs, so I can plugin just my phone and see if it gets logged
[01:14] <mellifera> dmesg | tail
[01:14] <dtmbmw325i> thank you
[01:14] <dtmbmw325i> :-)
[01:15] <flowerpot> why does rm -rf . fail but rm -rf ../foo works when my present working directory is foo?
[01:15] <zenon> I confused my self ><
[01:15] <zenon> I have ubuntu installed on my computer
[01:15] <mellifera> hooray
[01:16] <tiox> And now it's quit doing it.
[01:16] <tiox> )_)
[01:16] <tiox> 0_0
[01:16] <tigrang> dtmbmw325i, I get [12313.724181] usb 1-1: new high speed USB device number 14 using ehci_hcd [12313.861415] scsi16 : usb-storage 1-1:1.0
[01:16] <mellifera> tiox: so, problem solved itself?
[01:16] <zenon> its a dual boot partitioned drive, how would I set it up so that windows boots up every time?
[01:16] <tiox> I say, yewah.
[01:16] <tiox> yeah*
[01:16] <teh_augmenter> !offtopic
[01:16] <tigrang> dtmbmw325i, fdisk doesnt show it and its not in nautilus
[01:16] <tiox> Maybe running the memory through memtest fixed something.
[01:17] <tiox> Segfaulting is an extremely strange and enigmatic behavior. It's also strange and oddly fascinating how it irons itself out.
[01:17] <mellifera> tiox: that's not good, might indicate a subtle memory problem
[01:18] <tigrang> mellifera, thank you
[01:18] <tiox> WHoops, there it goes again...
[01:18] <dtmbmw325i> tigrang in windows what filesystem does the phone show?
[01:18] <tiox> Oh well. At least I can access the printer dialog SOMEHOW now.
[01:18] <tiox> BRB, balls to figuring out files, easier to set it up by hand.
[01:18] <tigrang> probably fat, im not sure id have to restart to check
[01:19] <mellifera> tigrang: what device name did the phone get?
[01:20] <tigrang> mellifera, lsusb shows Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd, not sure if thats what you need
[01:21] <tiox> I didn't even have to connect the computer to the printer to do a network print.
[01:21]  * tiox feels very silly now
[01:21] <mellifera> tigrang: I meant like /dev/sdb, /dev/sdc, etc. "lsscsi" should show you the name the phone got
[01:21] <tiox> That USE to be practice on Windows, which is why I made it kinda a big deal to do so before. Huh.
[01:22] <tiox> Well, thanks for the encouragement mellifera. I'll have to let memtest do more testing some time.
[01:22] <tigrang> mellifera, sec, installing that app now
[01:22] <dtmbmw325i> mellifera I am not sure what the deal is. It isn't getting a ?location?
[01:23] <tigrang> mellifera, it didnt get one. it only shows my hard drive and cd drive
[01:24] <mellifera> tigrang: that means it's seeing the phone as a general usb device but not as a file-formatted harddrive.
[01:25] <lorenzo> hi, I have set up an ubuntu access point but I cant seem to connect to it. I can see it, I can try to connect but it times out. I have no idea what is going on, how do I find out what the error is?
[01:25] <tigrang> mellifera, two things, running lsusb -v shows it as Mass Storage, and two, what can I do about it? what format does it need to be?
[01:25] <mellifera> tigrang: I have a camera like that. You have to change a setting on the camera to make it be seen as a hardrive
[01:26] <tigrang> mellifera, in my phone settings Ive set it to "Mass Storage" already
[01:26] <mellifera> tigrang: I don't know then. USB is so undependable
[01:27] <jazk> hi
[01:28] <dtmbmw325i> tigrand did you reboot your phone at all
[01:28] <jazk> what is the difference b/w redhat certification and LPI Level 1/2/3 certification?
[01:28] <jack_^> what is lpi?
[01:28] <jazk> Linux professional institute
[01:28] <dtmbmw325i> tigrang did you properly unmount your phone in windows
[01:28] <jazk> lpi.org
[01:29] <tigrang> dtmbmw325i, not by Safely Remove thing, I just unplug it
[01:30] <dtmbmw325i> tigrang how long have you been trying this? did it ever work?
[01:31] <tigrang> dtmbmw325i, installed ubuntu last night
[01:33] <mellifera> tigrang: I think they were suggesting that boot windows and "safely remove" the phone there, and/or reboot the phone
[01:34] <dtmbmw325i> I think it is too late for windows safe removal. try rebooting the phone
[01:34] <tigrang> k
[01:35] <tigrang> dtmbmw325i, nope
[01:36] <dtmbmw325i> hmm... I wonder if a special driver is needed
[01:37] <crf> hi. I have a pdf printer in cups. I'm sharing the printer over my home network. Other computers can see the printer. But I can't find out where the pdfs are kept, or how to change the folder where they are kept. I tried editing /etc/cups/cups-pdf.conf to change AnonDirName to shared directory in my home directory. And AnonUser is called 'nobody' (I also tried 'guest'). But nothing happened.)
[01:38] <dtmbmw325i> there is a program called bitpim on the repositories you could try if you are curious
[01:39] <Gibb> If you were to suggest a book to a novice in linux, which would it be?
[01:39] <tigrang> dtmbmw325i, its the bitpim for me?
[01:39] <AD_> Guys, I am installing Ubuntu on a brand new pc, but I have problems with the network
[01:39] <urlin2u> !bitpim
[01:39] <dtmbmw325i> tigrang yes
[01:39] <urlin2u> dtmbmw325i, bot doesn't know it.
[01:39] <AD_> when i get to page two 'is connected to the internet' is not checked
[01:39] <tigrang> k
[01:39] <dtmbmw325i> what does that mean?
[01:40] <mellifera> AD_: is your ethernet chipset supported?
[01:41] <AD_> it is a brand new asrock MB and I am wired, I can see the connection as connected
[01:41] <urlin2u> dtmbmw325i, please include nics a tab complete is easiest, the bot geberally will respond to a propmt of a app with its info it did, so probablt not in the repos.
[01:41] <ben_> I have a couple problems with Ubuntu Software Channel (Where it displays downloadable items). Whenever I use it, it locks up my computer and I have to turn it off by the power button. Is there anything I can do?
[01:41] <urlin2u> dtmbmw325i,
[01:42] <urlin2u> dtmbmw325i, I did   ibitpim
[01:42] <AD_> I tried the live and in fact I cannot open the webpages, but it says it is connected
[01:42] <mellifera> AD_: if you tried "ifconfig", what does it say your ip address is?
[01:42] <AD_> I use the opendns servers
[01:43] <AD_> you mean IPconfig?
[01:44] <dtmbmw325i> urlin2u it shows up in software center for me
[01:44] <dtmbmw325i> tingrang did you find it
[01:44] <ben_> :(
[01:44] <mellifera> actually I did mean ifconfig, but if ipconfig works the same, try that
[01:45] <dtmbmw325i> !chromium
[01:45] <dtmbmw325i> that's nice to know
[01:46] <AD_> where should I type ifconfig?
[01:46] <mellifera> in a console window
[01:46] <tigrang> dtmbmw325i, doesnt recognize it. Ill try it with bluetooth later. thanks for all the help
[01:46] <AD_> on another pc?
[01:47] <dtmbmw325i> tigrang no problem sorry I couldnt make it work
[01:47] <mellifera> AD_, no, on the pc with the not connected to the internet
[01:47] <tigrang> dtmbmw325i, np
[01:47] <AD_> I have no OS
[01:47] <AD_> I am installing Ubuntu
[01:48] <mellifera> AD_, if it has no OS, how did you know it wasn't connected to the internet?
[01:48] <ben_> Can someone please help me? Ubuntu Software Center won't work for me. It shows the app page but it freezes my computer
[01:48] <AD_> when I started to install, it connects because the network is connected, it gives me all the info
[01:49] <AD_> then I tried to launch the system on the live cd and notwithstanding the network is connected I cannot open the webpages
[01:49] <savage2005> i pulled a hard drive out of a windows machine i was told it has a virus what program should i use in linux to scan for windows viruses?
[01:50] <ben_> ugh...
[01:50] <dtmbmw325i> savage I would almost suggest hirens or ultimate boot cd for that
[01:50] <mellifera> savage2005: maybe clamav?
[01:50] <savage2005> ok ill try them thanks
[01:50] <oldude67> ben is your video card loaded?
[01:50] <AD_> basically I am stuck since 3h and cannot understand why the connection does not open the webpages
[01:51] <oldude67> AD_, can you get to a terminal
[01:51] <ben_> Yep. Everything is all set and reasy
[01:51] <dtmbmw325i> savage ive also used a custom windows pe disc and it works well. I can use all my windows programs then
[01:51] <ben_> ready*
[01:51] <mellifera> AD_, is the machine behind a router or firewall?
[01:51] <AD_> a router for sure, I have allowed the mac address
[01:51] <dtmbmw325i> they are customizable
[01:52] <oldude67> ben_, when was the last time you updated?
[01:52] <ben_> Oldude67, Today, actually. I just downloaded Linux Ubuntu (XFCE) today :)
[01:52] <mellifera> AD_, is the live cd's networking configured to use the router as a gateway address?
[01:52] <savage2005> mellifera: if i mount the infected hard drive do i risk spreading the virus to my good hard drive even though i am running linux?
[01:53] <mellifera> savage2005: anything is possible, but it's not very likely
[01:53] <oldude67> ben_, try using synaptics instead and see if it freezes
[01:53] <oldude67> AD_, can you ping 8.8.8.8
[01:53] <savage2005> mellifera: ok, thanks again
[01:54] <ben_> oldude67, what is synaptics?
[01:54] <oldude67> !synaptics
[01:54] <urlin2u> savage2005, there are bootable scanners
[01:54] <oldude67> ugh ubottu u suck
[01:54] <AD_> if i connect any other pc at home to the same wire they all work, I have adopted the same system for this one, to do what you are asking I need to switch to live CD?
[01:54] <tigrang> dtmbmw325i, I fixed it
[01:54] <tigrang> dtmbmw325i, idk how :D
[01:55] <oldude67> ben_, synaptics is probably under pref. in your menu look its the old style of software center
[01:55] <urlin2u> savage2005, http://www.techmixer.com/free-bootable-antivirus-rescue-cds-download-list/
[01:55] <tigrang> dtmbmw325i, I unloaded usb_storage module and reloaded it and it opened up the drive in nautilus
[01:55] <mellifera> AD_: I thought booting from the live cd was as far as you've gotten?
[01:55] <AD_> booting from my USB and trying to install the system on my HDD
[01:55] <ben_> oldude67, under the Applications menu in the top left hand corner?
[01:56] <oldude67> yup
[01:56] <varun06> I have installed Marlin file explorer, but it is not working icon is there in Unity, when I click nothing happens
[01:56] <AD_> I know I can install without network, but I'd rather prefer to have it connected
[01:56] <mellifera> AD_: you might have to install first and view web pages later
[01:57] <oldude67> ben_, if not look under system settings i cant remember i havent used xfce in a while. im going with the lxde setup and its a little different.
[01:57] <mibr001> 's goin on boys
[01:57] <AD_> no, it doesn't make sense, it should work regardless
[01:57] <oldude67> ben_, i think there is a #xubuntu channel as well.
[01:58] <syddraf_> Does anyone know of a CLI tool that can identify the encoding of a video?
[01:58] <oldude67> ben_,  i know there is a #xfce they would know more for sure.
[01:58] <acerimmer> syddraf_: ffmpeg
[01:58] <mibr001> reflowed my gpu with a blowdryer... how hot does it need to get in order to reflow properly... it only lasts like 6 hrs of runtime
[01:58] <acerimmer> syddraf_: ffmpeg -i nameofvideo
[01:58] <mellifera> AD_: were you able to do a "ifconfig" command? I would tell all sorts of useful things like your local lan-side address and what gateway address the linux machine is using
[01:58] <ben_> oldude67, I couldn't find the channel. Is it synaptic package manager? Sorry for bothering
[01:58] <urlin2u> dtmbmw325i, cool the bot does not know every package so you found bitpim.
[01:59] <oldude67> ben_, yes thats it.
[01:59] <ben_> oldude67, and I just click that?
[01:59] <oldude67> ben_, just open it at the top it has a search just type in the program you are looking for. you got it.
[02:00] <ben_> oldude67, thank you very much. I'll let you know if it works or not. brb
[02:00] <oldude67> ben_, less graphical if i remember
[02:00] <AD_> Yes, but you did not explain where shall I do that, I have no OS remember? Can we switch on a separate page? This cannot work we are writing the same stuff for 15 min.
[02:00] <ruesy> .
[02:01] <mibr001> elo? anybody have experience with solder/ reflowing
[02:01] <mellifera> AD_, what video mode are you in? text or vga?
[02:02] <AD_> I don't understan  your question
[02:02] <urlin2u> AD_, try using the nic tab complete the first couple of letters.
[02:02] <oldude67> AD_, do you see a desktop or text?
[02:02] <syddraf_> acerimmer: Thanks very much. Exactly what I need.
[02:02] <AD_> desktop
[02:02] <acerimmer> syddraf_: not a problem
[02:02] <oldude67> hes in x
[02:02] <urlin2u> !tab > AD_
[02:03] <acerimmer> syddraf_: http://ubuntustudio.org/
[02:03] <mellifera> AD_, do you happen to see an icon for a "terminal window"?
[02:03] <oldude67> AD_, they want you to open a terminal
[02:03] <oldude67> these are command line
[02:04] <AD_> guys I am not on a live cd, I am trying to install, how can I open the terminal?
[02:04] <oldude67> top tool bar
[02:04] <oldude67> left side
[02:05] <tigrang> IN ubuntu 11.10 when I do Shut down, it only logs me out. Has anyone else experienced this
[02:05] <urlin2u> thumb=live cd
[02:05] <AD_> there is nothing, I only have the network settings on the top right side
[02:05] <oldude67> AD_, is the unity tool bar on the left? if so its on it.
[02:06] <oldude67> AD_, how old of disk are  you using?
[02:06] <oldude67> sorry copy
[02:06] <AD_> just downloaded ubuntu 11.10 64 bit on a USB key
[02:06] <oldude67> forgot it was a thumb
[02:07] <urlin2u> oldude67, would ask them to use nics?
[02:07] <urlin2u> you*
[02:07] <dragosmc> hi guys
[02:07] <mellifera> AD_: I just realized. If this isn't a live boot and you are just installing, the web browsers probably haven't been installed yet. So you can
[02:08] <mellifera> 't see web pages
[02:08] <oldude67> urlin2u, well now that you understand where he is at have him check the copy m5dsum
[02:08] <dragosmc> I have a problem after installing ubuntu 11...i don't see the boot menu to choose whici OS to boot
[02:08] <oldude67> urlin2u, i have to leave or i would help him more.
[02:08] <Oer> AD_, i think terminal ctrl + alt + T does not work in install mode
[02:08] <dragosmc> i have a lenovo laptop and it uses EFI
[02:08] <AD_> even if I try to go live, the webpages do not work
[02:09] <oldude67> dragosmc, i think you might have to go nomodeset in grub
[02:09] <oldude67> !nomodeset
[02:09] <blackbox> what do you guys think is the best book  or books to read to be on the cutting edge of artificial intelligences .... I am really interested in this topic and was wondering what I books are the best so you can be at the top of AI. to date
[02:09] <AD_> in addition once you are on the second page, when it is asking if you are connected to the network, notwithstanding it is, the check mark is ticked off
[02:09] <iceroot> blackbox: offtopic here
[02:09] <dragosmc> actually i don't boot into a black screen..it boots automatically into windows
[02:10] <iceroot> blackbox: but maybe there is something from turing about that
[02:10] <Mathuin> I'm on Ubuntu 11.10 here, and for some reason when I log into my computer, I no longer get the dash thing on the left and the other stuff on the top.  The top has the stuff for Nautilus, but there's no nautilus window until I open one.
[02:10] <Mathuin> Help?
[02:10] <dragosmc> i found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting#Make_the_firmware_launch_GRUB2_.28U.29EFI_as_default but i get some error when making the grub2
[02:10] <urlin2u> Mathuin, have you installed and changed stuff in compiz?
[02:11] <Mathuin> urlin2u, I don't *think* so.  Is it worth checking ccsm tos ee if the unity plugin got turned off somehow?
[02:11] <Mathuin> The most interesting thing I've done is start vncserver -- but I've rebooted the machine since then.
[02:11] <urlin2u> Mathuin, yeah loo there.
[02:11] <urlin2u> look
[02:11] <Mathuin> installing it now...
[02:12] <Mathuin> I installed fvwm to make vncserver work, hopefully that didn't somehow break unity.
[02:12] <urlin2u> Mathuin, take a screenshot and imagebin it if you can.
[02:12] <Mathuin> Yeah, under Desktop, Ubuntu Unity Plugin got unchecked.  Evil.
[02:13] <urlin2u> Mathuin, cool
[02:13] <Mathuin> Enabling it caused some conflicts, so far they dont' look bad.
[02:13] <AD_> this isnot gonna work guys, I am ont he chat for more than 1 and half hour and we got to nothing, I will try to solve myself. tks anyhow
[02:13] <Mathuin> urlin2u, it magically came back.  this is better.  mucha ppreciated.  wish I knew why it bit the shed.
[02:14] <syddraf_> Is it possible to embed a | into find -exec?
[02:14] <AbuMaia> Hi folks. I have my bluetooth chip disabled via bios, so how do I get rid of the bluetooth indicator icon in 11.10?
[02:14] <iceroot> syddraf_: #bash
[02:14] <dtmbmw325i> mathuin that happened to me also. somehow the plugin got disabled. When I logged in I saw nothing but could see gwibber notifications
[02:14] <|Long|> hi, someone here good with harddrives stuff? i have 21 drives not on raid, is there away i can use lvm combined all drives into big one?
[02:15] <Mathuin> dtmbmw325i, had you installed another window manager?  I think that's what did it here.
[02:15] <iceroot> |Long|: dont think so you will never get 21 ide/sata ports
[02:15] <dtmbmw325i> no I don't know what changed mine. I just logged in as 2d and was able to reset unity plug
[02:15] <urlin2u> |Long|, not really a ubuntu support question try ##linux
[02:15] <iceroot> |Long|: but if you get them, yes
[02:16] <Mathuin> Good to know.  Thanks!
[02:16] <dtmbmw325i> no problem
[02:16] <|Long|> i have em on my storage box connect from 3 esata cards
[02:16] <dtmbmw325i> I think I needed to reboot also after the re enable
[02:17] <dragosmc> guys can i get some help in compiling the grub2 ?
[02:18] <dengyz> \
[02:18] <dragosmc> i'm following the tutorial from help.ubuntu but there's something that's going wrong
[02:18] <dragosmc> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting#Make_the_firmware_launch_GRUB2_.28U.29EFI_as_default
[02:19] <dragosmc> and at the Then, build an EFI application for GRUB and copy it and the other modules:  step
[02:19] <dragosmc> i get
[02:19] <dragosmc> ../grub-mkimage: error: cannot open ./moddep.lst.
[02:20] <ju1c3> Hi all! Quick Question; I deleted my windows partition from my dual boot configuration with ubuntu and i formatted it the ext4 in hopes I could make this my /home partition. Is there a guide or certain steps anyone would recommend?
[02:20] <bazhang> !home | ju1c3
[02:20] <dragosmc> !efi
[02:21] <dragosmc> !uefi
[02:21] <dragosmc> !EFI
[02:21] <bazhang> dragosmc, /msg ubottu please
[02:22] <dragosmc> sorry ?
[02:22] <bazhang> dragosmc, in a Private Message investigate the bot commands    /msg ubottu factoids   <---- for example
[02:25] <AbuMaia> Hi folks. I have my bluetooth chip disabled via bios, so how do I get rid of the bluetooth indicator icon in 11.10?
[02:25] <dragosmc> ok sorry, rephrasing the question: i've installed ubuntu 11 but after the reboot there's no option screen and the laptop boots automatically in windows. i saw there's a tutorial for forcing the firmware to use EFI as default but i get some errors
[02:26] <greg> anyone know if there are any dvd authoring programs for ubuntu that allow you to create looping videos
[02:27] <ozzie3994o> Avidemux
[02:28] <greg> that will let you create dvds that automatically loop?
[02:28] <fasn8> how do i save alsa so it remembers my default sound card and default output via headphones? after reboot it always reverts back to intel hd sound card
[02:28] <ozzie3994o> yes
[02:29] <mellifera> fasn8: did you set it using alsamixer?
[02:29] <fasn8> yeah
[02:29] <ikus060> Hello, I'musing gnome-shell in a multi-monitor setup with Nvidia TwinView and I'm wondering how to change the location of the top bar.
[02:29] <greg> thanks ozzie3994o I will see if I can figure it out
[02:31] <dtmbmw325i> ikus doesn't it show on each screen?
[02:31] <dtmbmw325i> independently
[02:32] <ikus060> dtmbmw325i: Nope, the top bar is display only on one screen. I want to move it to the other screen...
[02:32] <slakcphil> anyone using open-likewise for auth with ad?
[02:33] <mellifera> fasn8: this is a solution for /reghat, but it looks like it might work for you ... http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=238064&highlight=HDMI
[02:33] <dtmbmw325i> ikus in the nvidia settings screen under the display section you can set which monitor is the main screen
[02:35] <Singularityphd> Ubuntu !
[02:35] <Singularityphd> When can we see the new concepts
[02:35] <bazhang> hud?
[02:36] <dtmbmw325i> ubuntu geek was showing off some of the new things
[02:36] <fasn8> ill give that a go, thanks
[02:36] <funnyfingers> Anyone here use Zimbra?  Any thoughts?
[02:37] <dragosmc> is there a way to force the firmware to look at grub, when booting, in a EFI system ?
[02:37] <dtmbmw325i> funny is that the desktop wiki
[02:37] <AbuMaia> Either people here are clueless about indicators, or I'm being ignored. In either case, this is obviously a waste of time.
[02:37] <ozzie3994o> AbuMaia: intersting thought
[02:38] <funnyfingers> dtmbmw325i Zimbra the email server: http://www.zimbra.com/downloads/os-downloads.html
[02:38] <dtmbmw325i> !zimbra
[02:38] <funnyfingers> It seems a good alternative to Exchange.
[02:38] <mystik_Bomb> how do i setup a vpn server? could someone help
[02:38] <mellifera> funnyfingers: most anything is a good alternative to exchange :)
[02:38] <dtmbmw325i> hmm I will look into it.
[02:39] <funnyfingers> mellifera not really...
[02:39] <dtmbmw325i> exchange is good isnt it
[02:39] <funnyfingers> Exchange is excellent.
[02:39] <Sid0035> hey guys what is the best way to remove python 3.2.2 and go to 2.7?
[02:39] <slakcphil> mystik_Bomb, a good place to learn would be openvpn_as, it is free for the forst two or three users and is like 5usd per more
[02:39] <funnyfingers> I just can't afford it:)
[02:39] <slakcphil> easy to setup
[02:40] <mellifera> funnyfingers: anything using windows has two strikes against it
[02:40] <urlin2u> !ot
[02:40] <funnyfingers> mellifera interesting thought.
[02:40] <mystik_Bomb> i want to vpn to a personal computer somewhere else
[02:41] <Sid0035> i have read that i have to remove it manually but is there a less time consuming way?
[02:41] <dtmbmw325i> let me rephrase my thought... exchange works great with AD and windows... I havent used anything but lotus notes domino.... ick
[02:42] <mystik_Bomb> slakcphil theres a limit to how much users i can have on my own vpn??? and i have to pay for more???
[02:43] <slakcphil>  mystik_Bomb, then use openvpn
[02:43] <majes> yo
[02:43] <slakcphil>  mystik_Bomb, or openswan
[02:44] <mystik_Bomb> i want 2 ubuntus, 1 windows client and an android
[02:46] <urlin2u> !tab
[02:48] <funnyfingers> mystik_Bomb do you have a router that supports VPN or you want one of the Ubuntu workstations to be the router?
[02:48] <funnyfingers> If you have a router then you just have to worry about a client on each device.
[02:49] <mystik_Bomb> idk if it supports vpn..its a newer router so i believe it should support it
[02:50] <Mathuin> Okay, cube is sexy, but every time I swtich to a new face, the screen goes black for a very short period of time.
[02:50] <funnyfingers> that isn't true at all.
[02:50] <mystik_Bomb> i want to connect a windows 7, a ubuntu & an android device to one vpn
[02:50] <funnyfingers> Well first you have to see if your router supports it.
[02:51] <funnyfingers> Or let me rephrase or you can rephrase...
[02:51] <mystik_Bomb> and this vpn that i want to connect all those devices to is on personal computer i ahve at home which has a ubuntu 10.04 os in it
[02:52] <mystik_Bomb> well excuse me im a lil confusing here
[02:52] <funnyfingers> So you are calling your VPN at home a VPN which I assume is behind some kind of router, you are not home and you have all these devices that you want to connect to it?
[02:52] <funnyfingers> sorry you are calling your PC a VPN...
[02:52] <mystik_Bomb> yes i am
[02:52] <mystik_Bomb> thats my error
[02:53] <mystik_Bomb> i just want to connect 2 ubuntu oses, an android and a few windows 7 pcs together
[02:53] <mystik_Bomb> to one vpn
[02:54] <funnyfingers> What VPN is this mystik_Bomb
[02:54] <funnyfingers> Is there a VPN already setup?
[02:54] <mystik_Bomb> than later i want to create a proxy server to one of these computers, mostly a ubuntu pc i have at home, so i could use a proxy thru a vpn tunnell...idk if that makes sense cuz im a lil confused...i just want to browse using my at home public ip address from a laptop i have
[02:54] <urlin2u> !tab. mystik_Bomb funnyfingers
[02:55] <urlin2u> !tab > mystik_Bomb funnyfingers
[02:55] <mystik_Bomb> i dont have a vpn..i want to know how to set it up so all these devices can connect with the most secure ..umm...keys or whatever have u
[02:55] <mystik_Bomb> most secure protocols
[02:55] <DrDigital> anyone got a guide for installing java plugin into chromium?
[02:56] <mystik_Bomb> ok thanks urlin2u
[02:56] <urlin2u> mystik_Bomb, no problem thanks. :d
[02:56] <mystik_Bomb> funnyfingers, would u know how do this
[02:56] <rypervenche> mystik_Bomb: I, to this day, have not been able to get it to work properly on chromium.
[02:57] <funnyfingers> Not quite how you would do it.  I would use a router that would be the VPN.  The PC at home would just be inside the network and your external devices could make a VPN connection to your router.
[02:57] <mystik_Bomb> rypervenche, u proxy tunneled thru vpn???
[02:57] <mystik_Bomb> a proxy tunneled thru vpn? i meant to say..
[02:58] <mystik_Bomb> well i guess the router would be the network i connect to....
[02:58] <grubbyone> mystik_Bomb: if your router can support the full version of dd-wrt you can set it up as a pptp server
[02:58] <rypervenche> mystik_Bomb: Oops, sorry, wrong person.
[02:58] <rypervenche> DrDigital: I meant to send that to you.
[02:59] <mystik_Bomb> from what i hear the android supports: PPTP, L2TP, L2TP/IPsec PSK, or L2TP/IPsec CRT  and l2tp/ipsec crt is the most secure..so i could want that
[02:59] <grubbyone> mystik_Bomb: that way you can just connect using the default windows installation, no need for additional software
[03:00] <mystik_Bomb> im mainly ubuntu user
[03:01] <mystik_Bomb> but i guess i could use that for the other windows thank u
[03:03] <PhonicUK> what package provides libz.so ?
[03:03] <grubbyone> mystik_Bomb: did you see this? http://www.ivpn.net/knowledgebase/62/PPTP-vs-L2TP-vs-OpenVPN.html
[03:04] <mellifera> kalinixta ubukou
[03:04] <mystik_Bomb> oh so openvpn is a protocol?
[03:05] <grubbyone> seems that way
[03:05] <grubbyone> not so simple to implement
[03:05] <DrDigital> how about chrome or firefox?
[03:05] <mystik_Bomb> wow only bad thing it doesnt support android
[03:05] <urlin2u> Oh the days people consistently used nics per channel guidelines.
[03:05] <mystik_Bomb> but im interested in usign openvpn for the desktop and laptops..so how would i set this up
[03:05] <funnyfingers> mystik_Bomb what do you want to do with this network?
[03:05] <mystik_Bomb> ive used ssh alot but vpn is new to me
[03:06] <mystik_Bomb> share resources for now..use it to share a printer...use it to share folders
[03:07] <prates> yeah... your packages will be encrypted by certicates provided by any verysign, etc
[03:07] <grubbyone> ikonia: my 120gig drive compressed to 500 megs btw
[03:07] <mystik_Bomb> prates r u talking to me
[03:08] <prates> i would like to share something... just that
[03:08] <grubbyone> mystik_Bomb: there are lots of openvpn howtos around, I would suggest installing it at the router level
[03:08] <mystik_Bomb> oh ok so i would have to configure a router for vpn
[03:09] <mystik_Bomb> all that its done on the router...
[03:09] <mystik_Bomb> i have a verizon fios wrt series
[03:10] <WoC> Is there a way to 'lock' a specific kernel version and to prevent it from ever being updated ?
[03:10] <urlin2u> Ipin
[03:10] <urlin2u> !pin
[03:11] <grubbyone> mystik_Bomb: check your router here http://www.dd-wrt.com/site/support/router-database
[03:11] <urlin2u> WoC, ^^^
[03:12] <WoC> ok, thanks :)
[03:13] <urlin2u> WoC, np. :)
[03:14] <mystik_Bomb> ima have to see once i get the router in front of me...
[03:14] <grubbyone> there is also openwrt which apparently supports ipsec as well
[03:15] <mystik_Bomb> i see android has an openvpn installer
[03:15] <mystik_Bomb> i looked at the market
[03:15] <mystik_Bomb> so openvpn seems totally legit..now i jsut have to gain access to my router here and see if it supports..first let me get this model number brb
[03:16] <mystik_Bomb> netgear n600 wndr3400
[03:17] <_sjs> marrow ya wanna
[03:17] <mystik_Bomb> according to that list u gave me my router does support it
[03:17] <urlin2u> mystik_Bomb, grubbyone could you guys take it to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[03:17] <ejoycho> hi all
[03:18] <ejoycho> i'm trying to enable the fire/burn effect on compiz on my kubuntu 11.04
[03:18] <mystik_Bomb> ok
[03:19] <ejoycho> anyone there thinking of replying?
[03:19] <WoC> urlin2u, is there a way to register a manual kernel installation as well ? That way i can still upgrade my kernel
[03:19] <urlin2u> WoC, not sure really.
[03:20] <arkaniad> Can someone help me debug a rather devious samba configuration? I want to set up a primary domain controller with LDAP which I have already done, however, when joining a computer to the domain (attempting to anyways) it prompts for user name but then says it cant contact the domain. I can browse shares and log in just fine, what gives?
[03:21] <WoC> urlin2u, the issue is that i cant use any of the kernels after 3.2.0-10, both -11 and -12 fail to find my /, which is two striped disks
[03:21] <Raymond_> i am using filezilla to transfer html file to the server, when i pull up the website all i get is a directory, not the home page, any ideas.
[03:21] <urlin2u> WoC, bummer, you might also try ##linux for that, personally I don't know anything about raid.
[03:21] <WoC> i would assume the generic config changed in -11 and on
[03:22] <WoC> the raid is not the issue, its the generic kernel config
[03:23] <Raymond_> a index page
[03:23] <urlin2u> WoC, cool I know very little there as well in regards to your problem.
[03:23] <WoC> ok :) Thanks though
[03:24] <urlin2u> WoC, sur np. :)
[03:24] <urlin2u> sure
[03:25] <urlin2u> Raymond_, cross channel postings is discouraged.:)
[03:26] <Raymond_> urlin2u, filezilla is a program for linux also
[03:26] <urlin2u> Raymond_, not the issue.
[03:27] <urlin2u> same question
[03:27] <WoC> Raymond_, the index page you intend to use is using one of the configured file names ?
[03:28] <WoC> such as usually index.html ?
[03:30] <Raymond_> Woc, yeah i named my homepage index.html
[03:30] <poyntz> !wine > HFSPlus
[03:31] <WoC> Raymond_, and the premissions are ok ?
[03:31] <WoC> permissions even
[03:32] <Raymond_> Woc, idk what you mean
[03:32] <WoC> readable
[03:32] <WoC> the userid of the webserver can read the index file ?
[03:33] <WoC> setting it to 644 would enable the owner of the file read+write and any other only read
[03:34] <urlin2u> poyntz, the > is a direct to a PM message
[03:34] <Raymond_> WoC, the port # to 644?
[03:34] <WoC> no, chmod 644 index.html if you havent already
[03:34] <WoC> in case it is a permission issue
[03:35] <WoC> Raymond_, you might want to have a quick look at the manpage for chmod
[03:37] <WoC> Also; most webservers have both an access log and an error log, thos may have more info as to your issue
[03:37] <Raymond_> WoC, the issue is i am working in windows filezilla. thankyou for the info
[03:37] <WoC> np, let me know if you need any help
[03:39] <funnyfingers> Raymond_ are you sure the issue is that you are working in filezilla?
[03:39] <funnyfingers> That is an odd way to put it.
[03:40] <Raymond_> funnyfingers, Woc was referring to the terminal in linux, windows does not have a terminal
[03:40] <funnyfingers> ah ok:)
[03:41] <funnyfingers> You may be able to check permissions in Filezilla though.  I have never seen changing them with it work myself though.
[03:44] <Raymond_> funnyfingers, this is what happens...  http://www.wealthbuildersparadise.com/
[03:44] <ridwaniskandar> help me
[03:46] <almoxarife> Raymond_: filezilla creates a spam site? thats odd, can it create bitcoin too?
[03:47] <WoC> INDEX is not the same as index Raymond_
[03:47] <WoC> A and a are not interchangeable
[03:47] <Raymond_> Woc, Ahh, yes
[03:47] <ridwaniskandar> what?
[03:48] <dwltr> ridwaniskandar : what's up
[03:49] <WoC> Raymond_, index.html not index ;)
[03:50] <Raymond_> WoC, thnkyou
[03:50] <Raymond_> thankyou
[03:50] <damo22> if only i could insert a kernel module without being root
[03:50] <acerimmer> Is it possible via linux to chat with skype users WITHOUT using the slowly dying skype for linux platform?
[03:51] <zykotick9> acerimmer: i've certainly never tried it, but there is a pidgin-skype plugin
[03:51] <almoxarife> acerimmer: sort of, you will need to have linux-skype installed, but then use pidgin with the skype plugin
[03:52] <acerimmer> thanks guys!  looking it up now...
[03:52] <almoxarife> acerimmer: better yet, get them all to use google chat, and use pidgin
[03:54] <zykotick9> almoxarife: i'm not sure google chat is much of an improvment.  Also, google chat uses xmpp (aka jabber), so there are several compatible services.
[03:55] <acerimmer> zykotick9- sadly googlechat is not an option for the folks in China that I need to correspond with.
[03:55] <Amarok> hi
[03:55] <Amarok> 'm in a bit of a pickle here :P
[03:55] <selina2> it depends on your contacst if they use windows most likely the use skype
[03:55] <zykotick9> acerimmer: i wouldn't personally consider that sad, what about jabber.org?
[03:55] <selina2> skype besides voice has chat too
[03:56] <selina2> pidgin is ok
[03:56] <zykotick9> acerimmer: oh ya, voice, jabber not really an option then
[03:56] <WoC> Raymond_, any time, feel free to let me know should you have any further issues/questions
[03:56] <Amarok> tried opening another tty terminal, but when i wanted to switch back (ALT+F7) it's giving me a black screen
[03:56] <zykotick9> Amarok: try F8 as well
[03:56] <Amarok> i did
[03:57] <Amarok> this guys seem to have the same prob
[03:57] <Amarok> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1722421
[03:57] <acerimmer> zykotick9- just installed pidgin in my 11.10 U Studio.  I'm in the USA and interviewing for jobs in Asia via Skype.  Usually boot my Windows partition for that activity.
[03:57] <WoC> Amarok, nvidia gfx card ?
[03:57] <Amarok> nope
[03:57] <Amarok> vmware
[03:58] <grateful> how do i remove the gnome taskbar so i can use docky
[03:58] <WoC> Amarok, could be something with the driver not being able to resume while switching in between text mode and X
[03:58] <almoxarife> zykotick9: actually google video/chat beats the pants off skype, my dear mother who loves to wak with her son does so via google video/chat, although all her friends dont have a clue about google, i had to help help her get skype working on her end, so i installed it on ubuntu to get the connection video thing figured out, as far as i am concerned skype is way behind the power curve on stability, the experience is crap in comparison to google,
[03:58] <almoxarife> not sure why but that is what i saw.
[03:59] <rsvp> if I hot-swap monitors -- what command do I give for Linux to refresh the new monitor specs ?? or it just done on the fly automatically ??
[03:59] <Amarok> zykotick9: F8 doesnt work, but it shows a black screen with the toolbar on bottom
[03:59] <Amarok> can't open anythin though
[04:00] <zykotick9> almoxarife: i consider skype, obviously bad on a number of levels.  Google I just consider, probably bad (i used to love all google stuff, and do still use there email - so I'm a hypocrite)
[04:00] <xSmurf> How does one add stuff to initramfs and modify the hooks?
[04:00] <rsvp> it M$kype these days
[04:00] <tempo> is there a way to revert to the stable versions of firefox and thunderbird in 12.04 alpha?
[04:00] <zykotick9> Amarok: good luck.  I'm not interested in VMWare installs.
[04:01] <xSmurf> Moreover, how does one make it so that changes are kept through kernel upgrades?
[04:01] <zykotick9> tempo: you should be asking in #ubuntu+1
[04:01] <Amarok> zykotick9:clearly other users not running on vmware install had the same prob
[04:01] <xSmurf> is there some sort of think I can hook on that will be called when doing kernel upgrades?
[04:01] <rsvp> do I need to reboot for the system to recognize a new monitor swapped in ??
[04:01] <acerimmer> !+1|tempo
[04:01] <WoC> Amarok, send a HUP to the X process and use a terminal instead of switching to/from text mode
[04:01] <acerimmer> !ubuntu+1|tempo
[04:01] <bw_> Alright, I'm trying to disable cups from starting at boot, I have added a cups.override file, removed run levels, and it's still managing to start?
[04:02] <Omar> hello guys
[04:02] <tempo> okay, thanks
[04:02] <acerimmer> Got pidgin-skype installed - will test tomorrow since my coffee shop just kicked me out.
[04:02] <zykotick9> bw_: runlevels aren't really used in the normal way in ubuntu.  Plus ubuntu uses Upstart these days.  I don't know the official way to disable services anymore though.
[04:03] <Omar> guys i have Q as im new to Ubuntu
[04:03] <zykotick9> !ask | Omar
[04:03] <Omar> Im trying to install packages via terminal but i don't know what's wrong
[04:04] <zykotick9> Omar: didn't i just see you asking this question in #debian?
[04:04] <bw_> zykotick9: Upstart way should be a file "service.override" in /etc/init with the contents of manual
[04:04] <Omar> yes
[04:04] <Omar> i did
[04:04] <zykotick9> Omar: i see the update, all good.  ignore me.
[04:04] <Omar> sorry guys but im really new to Ubuntu i don't know what's the hang of it
[04:05] <Omar> and i would like to know about it more
[04:05] <zykotick9> Omar: are you able to run "sudo ls"?
[04:05] <zykotick9> Omar: to search for packages you can use "apt-cache search foo" replace foo with what you want, and it doesn't need sudo
[04:05] <Omar> yes
[04:05] <zykotick9> Omar: so to install something use "sudo apt-get install foo"
[04:05] <d3koded> is there a separate channel for Ubuntu server?
[04:06] <zykotick9> d3koded: yes, #ubuntu-server
[04:06] <almoxarife> zykotick9: i use google-mail, i like the sync option on chrome/chromium also, i like the idea of bringing up chromium anywhere on who evers machine and having all my options avail while logged in, although i am not some google-lemming either, i opt out of everything they want me to provide them, still, they gave me a free phone number long ago and keep re-inviting me to stay free, i guess its a choice of which evil is the lesser evil, yes, that
[04:06] <almoxarife>  was a plug for chromium
[04:06] <d3koded> thanks zykotick9
[04:07] <zykotick9> almoxarife: "the fog" is a big problem for free software... and it's getting a lot worse.
[04:08] <zykotick9> almoxarife: i personally like the idea of being in control of my own data/files... but, to each his/her own i guess.
[04:09] <bw_> Any ideas to my previous question?
[04:09] <Raymond_> WoC, now if i click on 'Home' it doesnt go to the the website the index tagged on the end of the url shouldnt be in caps
[04:09] <zykotick9> bw_: have to tried just moving the file in /etc/init/ to foo_cups.disabled?
[04:11] <VectorX> hi, whats the procedure to install the intel hd3000 gfx driver on oneiric ?
[04:14] <wodim> hi, doesn't ubuntu have some kind of netinstall cd?
[04:14] <zykotick9> !mini | wodim
[04:15] <wodim> thanks
[04:15] <zykotick9> wodim: the ubuntu mini cd is basically just the debian netinstall rebranded to ubuntu (with ubuntu repos obviously)
[04:15] <wodim> what i needed i suppose
[04:15] <grubbyone> that's really awesome
[04:16] <helpless> any idea why my usb drives aren't automounting? mount -a works fine, and my fstab has /dev/sdb1       /media/sdb      ext3    rw,auto         0       0 in it
[04:16] <helpless> nothing in dmesg i can see
[04:16] <zykotick9> helpless: /media/sdb isn't a device!  /dev/sdb would be (note, that doesn't have a partition?)
[04:16] <vato_> hi there
[04:17] <vato_> i was just wondering where i can get some of the same drugs your coders used when they designed "unity" because its the largest heaping pile of rhinoceros dung i've ever laid eyes upon.
[04:17] <helpless> zykotick9: /dev/sdb1 is the partition, and mount -a is mounting them fine, which uses fstab afaik
[04:17] <zykotick9> helpless: sorry missed the line break there - duh.  Ignore me.
[04:17] <zykotick9> helpless: gosh, and i'm sober...
[04:18] <vato_> what in christs name did you guys do to ubuntu
[04:18] <vato_> it lags worse than windows now
[04:19] <nurlan> ипипип
[04:19] <nurlan> пип
[04:19] <zykotick9> helpless: what do you mean by automounting?  fstab will mount at boot only.
[04:19] <helpless> zykotick9: that's what i mean, i want to reboot and have the disks come up
[04:19] <zykotick9> helpless: disks?  you mean disk.  that's only one entry.
[04:19] <Lirth> Ubuntu has begun to crash on me. It will bring up a screen with text and then bring me to the log in screen. When I log in all my programs will have closed and it will be as if I just booted. Unfortunately I can't remember where to find the dump of the crash. Is there anyone who might be able to find out why this is happening?
[04:20] <helpless> zykotick9: there are two disks, i only showed the one line, the other line is the same except b=c
[04:20] <memyself> how to search for all pdf in ubuntu ?
[04:20] <vato_> UBUNTU HERPDERP HURRRRDURRRRRRR
[04:20] <sapphofile> hey all
[04:20] <zykotick9> memyself: "find / -iname *.pdf 2>/dev/null" might work.
[04:20] <vishnu> vato_: iaw
[04:21] <zykotick9> helpless: if "mount -a" works, i have no idea why it wouldn't work at boot.
[04:21] <vato_> kill me
[04:21] <vato_> for installing ubuntu
[04:21] <helpless> zykotick9: that's why i'm asking
[04:21] <vato_> because it sucks
[04:21] <FloodBot1> vato_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:21] <vishnu> lul
[04:21]  * vato_ farts
[04:21] <vishnu> mmm vato_ farts
[04:21] <zykotick9> vato_: that's more then enough
[04:22] <vato_> unity sucks, you suck, fuck you
[04:22] <vato_> this laggy piece of shit of an excuse for an operating system, i want to slit my wrists and die in a fire with your lousy OS
[04:22] <vishnu> heh, if you want something to mount at boot, fix your fstab....
[04:22] <grubbyone> vato_: go shoot some bball outside of your school
[04:22] <vishnu> jebus
[04:22] <Lirth> Ahhh... the ignore option
[04:22] <vato_> AHHH MY BALLS ON YOUR FACE OPTION
[04:23] <memyself> zykotick9 , how to do it on the search bar ?
[04:23] <zykotick9> memyself: ? dunno, never used it.
[04:24] <Lirth> I'm trying to learn the bash shell to understand and use ubuntu better. Any idea how I should start?
[04:25] <VectorX> need some help, got a thin client on LTSP that was working fine, the server had a nvidia gfx card but i took it out and its running HD3000 from the board, running the particular client im getting the error in the pic, but other clients work fine, http://i30.fastpic.ru/big/2012/0204/aa/2c12035b97d0778a6d18da097d2402aa.jpg
[04:28] <solofight> people i have a dell latitude E5400 running ubuntu 11.10 --- when try to send or recieve any files from this machine i get error saying "unable to find service record"
[04:28] <solofight> how to solve this ?
[04:29] <WoC> solofight, bluetooth ?
[04:29] <solofight> WoC, yeah
[04:29] <solofight> sorry forgot to mention that
[04:29] <zykotick9> Lirth: personally, i'd start by trying to do as much as possible from terminal, get into writting scripts as early as you can (basic scripts are SUPER easy).  There are lots of guides out there, I'd consult as many as you can.  Good luck.
[04:29] <goviel> VectorX: seems like its still trying to load the nVidia driver, "failed to load moduel "nvidia"
[04:30] <VectorX> goviel how can i correct this ?
[04:30] <WoC> solofight, looks like some process under the bluetooth daemon is not currently running and/or is not yet configured
[04:30] <sharkmap> Lirth: I'm trying to do the same thing
[04:30] <solofight> WoC, how to proceed ?
[04:31] <zykotick9> VectorX: to stop nvidia from loading, just move /etc/X11/xorg.conf to xorg.conf.disabled and restart X
[04:31] <goviel> VectorX: you can unistall the nvidia driver, install Ati's driver, hopefully it should fix it on reboot. or you will have to edit the xorg.config
[04:31] <solofight> WoC, i switched on bluetooth and its detecting my mobile device - but when i try to transfer i get that error
[04:31] <Raymond_> WoC, any reason the about page sees the INDEX page instead of index?
[04:31] <WoC> solofight, which bluetooth daemon are you using ? chances are restarting the daemon will fix it
[04:32] <Raymond_> Woc, when i click on home from the about page
[04:32] <solofight> WoC, i dont know - its the default which came with the OS
[04:32] <WoC> Raymond_, the link may need an update ?
[04:32] <Lirth> sharkmap: I've got a friend who offered to teach me how to become a system's administrator and he told me to get a brick (AKA textbook) to get started. Bash was one of the things outlined but it just goes over my head.
[04:32] <VectorX> zykotick9 there is no such file, /etc/X11/xorg.conf and other location ?
[04:33] <sharkmap> Lirth: I'm reading all the online tutorials I can find. Some are pretty old, but the info is still good
[04:33] <zykotick9> VectorX: nope, that would be the location.  Sorry no other suggestions (don't understand how nvidia could still be loading)
[04:33] <Lirth> sharkmap: What do you reccomend?
[04:33] <WoC> Raymond_, yes, on the about page, the homepage is referred to as INDEX.html as opposed to index.html, being the topmost page you can also refer to the main page as /
[04:34] <solofight> WoC, could this be the one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/822141
[04:34] <solofight> ?
[04:34] <sharkmap> Lirth: I just googled 'bash scripting tutorial' and found a bunch, then started reading them all
[04:34] <VectorX> well this is on a thin client, one has a nvidia card(which isnt loading up) and the other doesnt which works fine when turned on simultaneously
[04:35] <Lirth> sharkmap: Is there anything google can't answer?
[04:35] <sharkmap> Google can answer the question why have they sold my info for profit and not given my my cut
[04:35] <urlin2u> Lirth, the meaning of life. :D
[04:35] <UidX> lol
[04:36] <grubbyone> I want to make a usb stick that boots up and automagically does things
[04:36] <sharkmap> Lirth: one thing I did was sign up for a shell account on another computer and since it's a shell its command prompt only. good way to learnh
[04:38] <Lirth> sharkmap: how do you make a shell account?
[04:38] <UidX> awww i have a terrible stomachache
[04:38] <sharkmap> Lirth: I
[04:39] <WoC> solofight, looks like it
[04:39] <sharkmap> Lirth: I went to sdf.org and they have free shell accounts. It's a non-profit, just for the users sort of place really cool
[04:39] <solofight> WoC, no other round abouts ?
[04:40] <WoC> i only had a quick look at it a few months ago, never had the time to dig into it, i resolrted to usb ;)
[04:40] <sharkmap> Lirth: telnet to sdf.org, login as new and go from there. easy peasy
[04:41] <sharkmap> Lirth: I'm logged in there right now, running irc from their shell
[04:43] <ridwaniskandar> hay
[04:45] <Lirth> How do I navigate to a directory?
[04:45] <Lirth> in the terminal*
[04:45] <holstein> cd /path/to/whatever Lirth
[04:45] <WoC> Lirth, cd
[04:46] <Lirth> holstein, WoC: thanks
[04:46] <Lirth> holstein, WoC: what does cd stand for?
[04:47] <sharkmap> Lirth: This is a good shell tutorial: http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Teaching/Unix/
[04:47] <sharkmap> easy to understand for the beginner
[04:48] <zykotick9> Lirth: cd = change directory
[04:48] <Lirth> zykotick9: Thanks.
[04:49] <Lirth> sharkmap: What is your opinion of the Bash tutorial on linuxconfig? http://linuxconfig.org/Bash_scripting_Tutorial
[04:49] <PeterSJC> Trouble installing Ubuntu 11.10 on a Dell Latitude D600; anyone want to help?
[04:50] <urlin2u> PeterSJC, just give a outline of where your at.
[04:51] <axe> iaXe_: D
[04:51] <sharkmap> Lirth: not familiar with that one. is it linuxconfig.org ?
[04:51] <iaXe_> axe, ...
[04:52] <PeterSJC> Completed a fresh installation... got back to a non-graphic shutdown screen, got a message "umount: /run/lock: not mounted", then something about casper and "Please remove installation media..."   But when I press ENTER, I see a couple of funny characters and then nothing.
[04:52] <holstein> PeterSJC: how did it run live?
[04:53] <PeterSJC> I did not try running it live off the installation disk, but instead did a new-complete installation on a single 30 GB partition
[04:53] <sharkmap> Lirth: Here's one with less ads popping up at you: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/index.html
[04:54] <urlin2u> PeterSJC, is it a install from windows, a wubi?
[04:54] <PeterSJC> I created a CD (in Windows, another computer) and booted from that on the Dell
[04:55] <Lirth> sharkmap: In a bunch of tutorials there are the # symbols followed by notes. If I put that in the actual script would it just ignore it also as a default function of bash?
[04:56] <sharkmap> Lirth: yeah those are comments
[04:56] <Lirth> sharkmap: Good to know if I'm ever smart enough to teach someone.
[04:57] <sharkmap> Lirth: I'm really not that good yet. I was you three weeks ago. That first website I gave you is a really good beginning and tells you everything you need to know about the shell
[04:57] <sharkmap> to get started
[04:57] <holstein> PeterSJC: i would try getting to the live desktop, then you'll know the hardware is supported, or how well it is supported
[04:58] <zykotick9> Lirth: the first line with the #! is not a comment BTW
[04:58] <PeterSJC> holstein: What is the "live desktop"?
[04:58] <Lirth> zykotick9: What does it do?
[04:58] <holstein> PeterSJC: from the installation disc, try it live *before* installing
[04:59] <zykotick9> Lirth: it determines what to run it with #!/bin/bash vs #!/bin/sh should give different results (but this is a terrible example, as both would be the same on ubuntu)
[04:59] <PeterSJC> holstein: You mean the option where the installation disk asks whether you want to try Ubuntu or install it?
[05:00] <sharkmap> Lirth: I think it is the beginning of the script
[05:00] <holstein> PeterSJC: instead of installing, and hoping the graphics card is supported, you can try it live... you can boot up live, from the CD.. poke around in there.. try the sound.. see about the wifi if you have it... see how the screen looks... whatever else.. then, you can go from there
[05:01] <Lirth> zykotick9: Does it make the shell run differently? I've read about sh being the first and bash continuing on with it (or something like that) and there was another type mentioned. Would using the #! have different commands based on the shell?
[05:01] <PeterSJC> holstein: I will try it. Thanks
[05:01] <MrKeuner> hello, I have a script ran by user's crontab. When user runs the script, it works fine, however when the script is run by crontab $USER environment variable seems to be not defined. Why would that happen?
[05:01] <xtgyal> Hello, I am trying to password-protect a directory in var/www with Apache on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx.  I followed the instructions at http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/howto/auth.html but doesn't seem to be working.  I typed at the bottom of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: " <Directory /var/www/secret> "   " AuthType Basic AuthName "Restricted Files" "   " AuthUserFile /usr/local/apache/passwd/passwords "   " Require user user1 "   
[05:02] <zykotick9> Lirth: (under normal cirumstances) sh has a lot fewer features then bash.  But in modern times, sh usually just point to bash.
[05:02] <Lirth> sharkmap, zykotick9: I just realized this is going slightly off topic from Ubuntu. Is there a bash IRC that I could log into for these discussions?
[05:03] <MrKeuner> $HOME is defined but somehow not $USER
[05:03] <zykotick9> Lirth: #bash, but it's a pretty "serious" channel
[05:03] <sharkmap> Lirth: sh is 'bourne shell' and bash is 'bourne again' shell
[05:03] <Lirth> zykotick9: What do you mean by "serious"? Do they not like noobs?
[05:04] <zykotick9> Lirth: i'm kinda hinting at that ya - but i'm sure they're nice as well ;)
[05:04] <Lirth> zykotick9: I'll just try not to get booted.
[05:05] <urlin2u> Lirth, do few I'm not worthies. :)
[05:05] <xtgyal> How to password-protect a web directory in Apache?
[05:05] <pitarian> whats going on in here?
[05:06] <Lirth> urlin2u: What?
[05:06] <urlin2u> nothin
[05:06] <Raymond_> WoC, i have to edit the html to get it to work :)
[05:06] <sharkmap> Lirth: say you are sorry to be a noob a lot
[05:06] <urlin2u> Lirth, I'm not worthy a reference to joke.
[05:06] <pitarian> @xtgyal http://www.sitedeveloper.ws/tutorials/htaccess.htm
[05:07] <xtgyal> Ubuntu Help Manual says not to use htaccess ?
[05:07] <Lirth> sharkmap: I tried that once. Then I quickly discovered how close the 'b' and the 'n' keys are and how easy it can be to typo...
[05:07] <pitarian> and why is that?
[05:07] <sharkmap> Lirth: same difference. :-)
[05:07] <urlin2u> pitarian, you have a support question?
[05:07] <xtgyal> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingUseOfApacheHtaccessFiles
[05:08] <pitarian> @urlin2u i was replying to @xtgyal
[05:08] <urlin2u> pitarian, cool :)
[05:08] <pitarian> np
[05:09] <xtgyal> yes Ubuntu does list how to use apache2.conf and the code provided by http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/howto/auth.html does not work
[05:12] <WoC> sharkmap, heh... you got my hopes up on free shell, only free for students
[05:12] <sharkmap> WoC: well, its free for 600 days, but if you give them a dollar, it's forever.
[05:13] <sharkmap> Woc: and you don't have to be a student, I'm not.
[05:13] <WoC> Oh, thx
[05:13] <WoC> no wi just need to find someone to verify me then
[05:14] <Lirth> WoC, sharkmap: I'd say that's close enough to free. :)
[05:14] <WoC> err validate that is
[05:14] <sharkmap> WoC: validate is just giving them a dollar (or 3 dollars if you do it through paypal)
[05:15] <WoC> i was reading the official join page
[05:17] <WoC> sharkmap, I assume scp is available after validation ?
[05:18] <sharkmap> WoC: not sure. There is another 'higher' level, it's 36 dollars (one time fee), that makes you a full on member with voting rights
[05:18] <Lirth> In the title info for this channel it says "Please use the torrents". I understand that torrents allow peer to peer data transfer, but I don't understand how it works.
[05:18] <sharkmap> WoC: could be that's not available on the free level
[05:18] <WoC> it does list ssh/sftp
[05:19] <vooze> Hey guys.. i just installed kernel 3.2.0 though PPA, and wanted to try not using NON-opensource gfx driver.. but now this happens? http://peecee.dk/upload/view/349658/full check right corner.. with the "pixel fail" any ideas?
[05:19] <sharkmap> WoC: not sure what 'scp' is. :-)
[05:19] <pitarian> anyone in here uses vyatta?
[05:19] <abvayad> Is there any aplet manager for ubuntu unity
[05:19] <WoC> scp; secure copy, part of ssh
[05:19] <zykotick9> sharkmap: scp = secure copy (it uses ssh)
[05:20] <sharkmap> WoC: inbound ssh for free, outbound for 36 dollars. :-(
[05:21] <WoC> k
[05:21] <WoC> I wouldnt use outbound ssh anyhow
[05:22] <zykotick9> WoC: you can probably install anything on Ubuntu that any shell service offers
[05:23] <frybye> hi - what do I have to do to get ubuntu 11.10 to run ckfs on starting??
[05:23] <sharkmap> zykotick9: the point for me is to have a remote shell, it's different than a local machine. it's 'real world' so to speak
[05:24] <zykotick9> !fsck | frybye
[05:24] <WoC> zykotick9, i reckon, if i ever get my head around the package system
[05:25] <vooze> Hey guys.. i just installed kernel 3.2.0 though PPA, and wanted to try not using NON-opensource gfx driver.. but now this happens? http://peecee.dk/upload/view/349658/full check right corner.. with the "pixel fail" any ideas?
[05:25] <zykotick9> WoC: well, from terminal use "apt-cache search foo" to search for stuff, and "sudo apt-get install foo" to install ;)
[05:25] <dragosmc> hi guys
[05:25] <dragosmc> how can i force ubuntu live to boot in UEFI mode?
[05:25] <rich_> hey whats going on
[05:26] <WoC> I got that part, zykotick9, its things like searching for which package  provided file y and that sort of things
[05:28] <zykotick9> WoC: providing a particular file, can be a little trickier at time.  I'll resort to online searches ;) if apt-cache fails.  If the file is on the system and you want to know what file it's from you can use "dpkg -S /path/to/file"
[05:28] <WoC> zykotick9, at the moment though; i would really like to know how to register a manual kernel installation
[05:28] <WoC> Thanks
[05:29] <zykotick9> WoC: sorry I've never had to use manual kernels in ubuntu/debian good luck (not sure what you mean by register either)
[05:29] <WoC> wouldnt happen to know a way to make 'dpkg -l' output without the border ?
[05:30] <WoC> by register; so it would show up in 'dpkg -l'
[05:30] <WoC> and also for dependencies, i reckon
[05:30] <Lirth> At the start of this IRC page it tells us to use the torrents. Where would I found out how they work and how they can tell the difference between a bogus virus and a real file that I want?
[05:31] <WoC> i would assume quite some packages depend on a kernel
[05:31] <zykotick9> WoC: border?  what border?  i can't really add manually installed stuff to the apt database.  checkinstall can create DEBs from source, but i doubt kernel would be easy.
[05:31] <the_padawan2> can anyone help me with USB speakers? I see volume bars moving in the pulseaudio device checker when I play a song but no sound comes out
[05:32] <frybye> hi - I just ran fsck on start but still when I try to use acronis true image 11 to make an image of my pc it complains that "some particians have errors ..etc etc.. " it will only do a sector by sector backup - I need to use acronis cos other systems are too complicated for me...
[05:32] <zykotick9> Lirth: the torrent suggestion applies to downloading the ubuntu ISO - not other stuff..
[05:32] <WoC> zykotick9, try 'dpkg -l | tail' and you see the part to the left of the actual package name
[05:32] <zykotick9> WoC: that's the packages status
[05:32] <PeterSJC> holstein:I am running Ubuntu from the CD, on this Dell computer and have encountered no problems with the GUI programs that I have tried. (not sure how to start a shell to try commands)
[05:33] <WoC> oh
[05:33] <zykotick9> WoC: ii rc there are some other options as well i'm sure
[05:33] <j1000_> hi all i am trying to build android ics in ubuntu 10.04 and i'm getting an error that the android devs think might be a linus problem not android if i could get some help that would be great
[05:33] <Lirth> the_padawan2: Try hitting super and searching for the "sound" setting. There is a tab with "Hardware". Try checking that out. It's how I got my 2nd monitor to run the sound.
[05:33] <frybye> zykotick9: you had helped me with fsck - any ideas on above problem?
[05:33] <j1000_> linux not linus
[05:33] <the_padawan2> @Lirth hitting super?
[05:34] <Lirth> the_padawan2: windows key
[05:34] <zykotick9> frybye: sorry i have no idea what acronis is - and i personally think drive image backups are a waste of space.  but best of luck.
[05:34] <Lirth> the_padawan2: it should let you search programs
[05:34] <pitarian> anyone with knowledge of vyatta firewall ?//
[05:34] <zapbuzz> im looking for a driver for s3 Chrome 9 HC for x64 Ubuntu
[05:34] <the_padawan2> Lirth: ok i don't have that... i'm on 10.04
[05:34] <WoC> heh, thanks zykotick9, i thought it was just some table frame gone broken or so... ii
[05:35] <Lirth> the_padawan2: Do you have the system settings program?
[05:35] <frybye> zykotick9: thanks - but what do you do if a system gets shotup?
[05:35] <zapbuzz> where do i go to get the above driver?
[05:35] <the_padawan2> Lirth: Yes; i have even set the device in Sound preference>Hardware
[05:35] <Lirth> the_padawan2: and that's not working?
[05:36] <the_padawan2> Lirth: afraid not
[05:36] <frybye> zykotick9: do you just make a copy of /home or...?
[05:36] <Lirth> the_padawan2: I know this makes it sound like I think you're an idiot (I don't, I do this all the time), but is it turned on?
[05:37] <zykotick9> frybye: i carefully keep track of any system files i modify (and back those up), and back up selected . files in my home dir, and my files obviously.
[05:37] <the_padawan2> Lirth: It is, the there is an LED on the volume control
[05:37] <WoC> zykotick9, looks like; hi, rc, ii
[05:37] <the_padawan2> Lirth: the color of the LED even changed from yellow to green...
[05:37] <PeterSJC> holstein: are you still here?
[05:37] <zykotick9> WoC: did you find out what they all mean?  i know ii is installed, and the rc means there are config files, no idea what the hi stands for.
[05:38] <the_padawan2> Lirth: and now apparently it's red...
[05:38] <Lirth> the_padawan2: good. Now, in your screen there should be a volume icon (I'm not experienced with .04 so I don't know where it is). Mine is in the top bar with things like the clock.
[05:38] <Lirth> the_padawan2: and the good was from earlier...
[05:38] <urlin2u> Peterman, the live cd run okay?
[05:38] <the_padawan2> Lirth: yeah i've got volume control
[05:39] <frybye> zykotick9: if I needed to re-install the ubuntu (dont have the level of knowledge to do it your way..) then having a copy of /home and putting that over the new installation would work or..?
[05:39] <j1000_> any takers on looking at this error to see if i'm missing a lib or something needed to compile
[05:39] <the_padawan2> Lirth: as in, i've got the program to do it
[05:39] <Lirth> the_padawan2: is that on?
[05:39] <the_padawan2> Lirth: yes
[05:39] <the_padawan2> Lirth: in the Output panel it lists two devices, internal and the USB
[05:39] <the_padawan2> Lirth: I have selected USB, it's unmuted and the volume is up
[05:39] <zykotick9> frybye: it should!  but, that assumes it's the same version of ubuntu, in rare cases .home stuff can cause issues with newer versions of software :(
[05:40] <frybye> zykotick9: basically all I need to do is get acronis tru image to work without complaining about damaged partitions.. even if takes space on a usb drive - this helps me...
[05:40] <zapbuzz> im looking for a driver for s3 Chrome 9 HC for x64 Ubuntu
[05:40] <plum> hey all
[05:40] <Lirth> the_padawan2: Hopefully your sound settings (in hardware) has this. Mine shows a drop down menu called "Settings for the selected device:". Do you have that?
[05:41] <plum> is truecrypt good? will it slow my computer down?
[05:41] <the_padawan2> Lirth: you mean in Hardware Drivers?
[05:41] <frybye> zykotick9: I guess csfk only looks at the file system structure.. perhaps it is a physical defect on the h-drive .. any linux programme to check that and excluse damaged sectors etc..?
[05:41] <Lirth> plum: I haven't used it personally but I've run into a few recommendations for it.
[05:42] <plum> hmm. i'm considering it just for kicks
[05:42] <Lirth> the_padawan2: I mean the sound settings where you chose the USB speakers
[05:42] <WoC> zykotick9, i think i got the gest of it
[05:42] <zykotick9> frybye: i'm sorry, i just looked up acronis - and it's propritary software, i'm no longer interested in helping you with your issue.  good luck though.
[05:42] <frybye> If I want to save /home - does the .home content get saved with it..?
[05:42] <the_padawan2> Lirth: ah ok
[05:42] <plum> i'm not a "bad boy" kind of person, but i'm curious at it. i just don't want to lose performance
[05:43] <the_padawan2> Lirth: there's just one drop down called Profile. the choices are "off", 5.1, or 4.1 sound. I have it set to 5.1
[05:43] <extender> I've never seen anything slow down because of truecrypt
[05:43] <urlin2u> plum, kinda off topic it is a third party ubuntu has encryption.
[05:43] <Lirth> the_padawan2:  That should be it. Are your speakers 5.1 surround?
[05:43] <plum> true, my bad
[05:43] <the_padawan2> Lirth: yes
[05:44] <flowerpot> Is there an channel op online right now?
[05:44] <frybye> zykotick9: everybody is entitled to thier political persuasion - i am just looking for a souloution that works for me - the non-proprietory methods are too complicated normally.. on the other hand this is also not doing to well just now is it - hehe
[05:44] <Lirth> the_padawan2: and you just hit the end of my technical expertise. I thought I was smart for the last five minutes...
[05:44] <the_padawan2> Lirth: ok well thanks for trying
[05:44] <the_padawan2> Lirth: back to the forums
[05:44] <zykotick9> flowerpot: yes, they are just hidden
[05:44] <Lirth> the_padawan2: At least you ruled out the basics :D'
[05:44] <flowerpot> I have an issue I'd like to report about a user in this channel; where do I submit it?
[05:45] <zykotick9> flowerpot: #ubuntu-ops i believe is a channel you could contact them in
[05:45] <urlin2u> flowerpot, #ubuntu-ops
[05:45] <zapbuzz> is there a channel for hardware support?
[05:45] <zykotick9> zapbuzz: ##hardware
[05:45] <zapbuzz> ty
[05:45] <aoregcdu> !ops onjoin spam from testteed
[05:45] <AfterDeath> err
[05:45] <AfterDeath> !ops
[05:45] <NFisher> hi all!! im in need of a java plugin for my firefox-browser.. how can i get it?! it always worked out of the box but since recently it doesnt anymore.. i run 10.04 btw..
[05:46] <frybye> zykotick9: another try.. you have convinced me - NO acronis - just my question about saving the /home directory - will all the contents of the dir be saved if I just copy it as usual...?
[05:46] <AfterDeath> danke
[05:46] <vooze> I just update to kernel 3.2 (ubuntu 11.10) how do i enable nouveau instead of nvidia-driver? Some says its blacklisted after having used nvidia-driver
[05:46] <zykotick9> frybye: it depends on how you save ~ if the .folder stuff is saved (be careful), if you use nautilus CTRL+H will show hidden files.
[05:47] <j1000_> ok im ubuntu stupid so im reduced to begging can someone look at an error and on an ics compile and see if it is a missing lib?
[05:47] <j1000_> android devs think it is an ubuntu problem not source issue
[05:48] <Lirth> j1000: Try putting the error in pastebin and giving the link
[05:48] <zykotick9> vooze: the blacklisting is true.  I'd start by checking /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf.  Regarding the driver you should either move xorg.conf or edit it (harder method)
[05:48] <j1000_> just a sec thanks lirth
[05:48] <flowerpot> zykotick9, urlin2u: thanks
[05:51] <j1000_> http://pastebin.com/ES269uaa
[05:51] <vooze> zykotick9: thanks for your answer. I see its not in blacklist.conf, where is xorrg.conf located?
[05:51] <frybye> zykotick9: am not sure what the default file manager is in 11.10 unity - but I am just copying the whole home directory and hope that does it..
[05:52] <zykotick9> vooze: it's possible the blacklist is elsewhere then??? xorg.conf is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:52] <ruesy> .
[05:52] <zykotick9> frybye: unity is gnome, which uses nautilus - so ctrl+h should work
[05:53] <zykotick9> frybye: just verify your backup has the .hidden folders
[05:53] <frybye> zykotick9: If I remember right for such a re-install there is another directoy that is important to backup - /etc..something? You know it..?
[05:53] <j1000_> if that error means anything to anybody i'm open to suggestions
[05:53] <Lirth> Where do I find the error dumps? I've had a problem where ubuntu just outright crashes.
[05:53] <vooze> zykotick9: hmm not sure, but xorg.conf is not in /etc/X11/
[05:53] <zykotick9> frybye: /etc has all the system settings - important if you've modified any, but not sure of the value of backup it up if you haven't
[05:54] <zykotick9> vooze: that's ok, but i don't think you could be using the nvidia driver then (it requires xorg.conf), while the open source drivers don't need it
[05:54] <QaDeS> hiyas. anybody else got problems with the latest firefox upgrade in 10.04?
[05:54] <urlin2u> flowerpot, no problem. :)
[05:54] <j1000_> my error is in trying to compile ics so i just copied what was in the ternminal
[05:55] <frybye> zykotick9: my idea is that if the system breaks - I can use a 11.10 install cd to re-install and then just write the /home over the existing one - if writing the /ext over the installed one is a good idea - to get back to where I was before broken?
[05:56] <zykotick9> QaDeS: crashes?  someone earlier renamed there ~/.mozilla and it seemed to correct there issue, but lost there settings (something in the settings might not be compatible with firefox 10)
[05:56] <j1000_> i think its a missing lib but i followed several guides to the letter and im not the only one getting the same error
[05:57] <zykotick9> frybye: ya, after reinstall just replacing your backed up /home should work (you might/probably will have to chown the directories)
[05:57] <vooze> zykotick9: ah okay, but its because i get this "pixel error?" http://peecee.dk/upload/view/349658/full check right corner
[05:58] <frybye> zykotick9: right - there is a recursive for chown - so I could apply it to /home and all below it right?
[05:58] <zykotick9> vooze: with my uzbl browser and that image paste site, i can't actually scroll right to see the corner, sorry.  Was there some reason you upgraded your kernel?
[05:59] <zykotick9> frybye: you shouldn't!  /home should be owned by root:root, only the subdirectories should be owned by there respective users
[06:00] <frybye> zykotick9: ok tks
[06:00] <QaDeS> zykotick9, didn't work :(
[06:01] <QaDeS> is there a way to pin apt to an earlier firefox version?
[06:01] <zykotick9> frybye: what i was getting at: if you reinstall, and create users with the same name(s) they might not be the same UID# and thus the system will view them as different users
[06:01] <vooze> zykotick9: I use gnome shell.. with nouveau and 3.0 gnome shell was a bit buggy, then i tryed with nvidia + nvidia experimental from the driver-gui.. but some shell-themes were really slow.. So i figured I would give 3.2 kernel + nouveau a shot :)
[06:02] <zykotick9> vooze: typically the ONLY reason to upgrade to a new kernel is to get hardware support for newer devices
[06:02] <Lirth> Where do I find crash dumps?
[06:03] <vooze> zykotick9: as okay, i though that nouveau was updated with new kernels also :)
[06:04] <zykotick9> QaDeS: the repo probably no longer has the older version though, so going back might not be possible.  Specific to your question, see "/msg ubottu pinning" for pinning details.
[06:04] <zykotick9> vooze: possible? i suppose.
[06:05] <frybye> zykotick9: hmmm.. this is getting complicated again....
[06:05] <zapbuzz> im looking for a driver for s3 Chrome 9 HC for x64 Ubuntu
[06:05] <frybye> zykotick9: but if I do a chown on all the sub-dir in /home will be ok?
[06:06] <zykotick9> frybye: chown the /home/USERNAME and below
[06:06] <vooze> zykotick9: oh, i figured it out.. for some strange reason, the gnome-shell theme i used does not work good with nouveau.. all other themes seems to work fine
[06:06] <vooze> zykotick9: really strange :D
[06:06] <frybye> zykotick9: ok thanks...
[06:08] <on3love> aw
[06:13] <Lirth> I've got a question on the naming of Ubuntu releases. I've noticed there has been 11.04, 11.10, and 12.04 is coming out next. Why is it named with .04 and .10?
[06:14] <zykotick9> Lirth: month they are released in
[06:14] <zykotick9> Lirth: first number is the year
[06:14] <acerimmer> Lirth- 11 = year 04 = month
[06:14] <acerimmer> !releases|LIrth
[06:14] <Lirth> zykotick9, acerimmer: thanks
[06:15] <_Ryth> that's useful to know.
[06:15] <Oer> zapbuzz, i think you need openchrome https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome
[06:15] <villa> hello
[06:15] <acerimmer> villa- greetings.  Questions???
[06:16] <villa> When I star stardict, it's icon does not show up in the panel at top of the desktop. If I close the startdict window, it will quit. I want to let stardict to run at the background. how?
[06:16] <villa> It  once did before
[06:17] <acerimmer> BoyOfWuHan- nihao!
[06:17] <zapbuzz> @0er im checking that out thanks
[06:17] <Lirth> How do we get the names for Ubuntu releases such as "Oneiric Ocelot" or "Natty Narwhal"
[06:17] <BoyOfWuHan> acerimmer hi
[06:17] <villa> acerimmer, are you chinese?
[06:17] <BoyOfWuHan> villa ,yes
[06:17] <acerimmer> villa- no but I just got a job offer to china so I just practiced all of my chinese vocabulary
[06:18] <zykotick9> Lirth: names are announced by the "dictator for life"
[06:18] <acerimmer> Lirth- Stallworth and the elves of marketing
[06:18] <Lirth> Santa runs Ubuntu!?!?!
[06:18] <villa> can you resolve my problem?
[06:18] <geoffmcc> villa: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/stardict/+bug/881631  | not sure what ubuntu version your running, but maybe this is it
[06:19] <zykotick9> acerimmer: Stallworth?  is that a combination of Stallman and Shuttleworth?  I don't think they'd get along.
[06:19] <villa> yep, something like that ubottu
[06:19] <BoyOfWuHan> acerimmer ,which city of china you will come to
[06:19] <zykotick9> !ot > BoyOfWuHan
[06:19] <acerimmer> BoyOfWuHan- luzhou
[06:19] <Colonel_Panic> Hi, I'm trying to create a bootable DVD
[06:20] <Colonel_Panic> can anyone tell me how to do that from the CLI?
[06:20] <BoyOfWuHan> which provice?
[06:20] <villa> luzhou, which is in jiangxi province
[06:20] <villa> I don't know, maybe
[06:20] <villa> I guess
[06:20] <BoyOfWuHan> oh,,I know
[06:20] <BoyOfWuHan>   it's not far from Wuhan
[06:20] <zykotick9> Colonel_Panic: do you mean from an Ubuntu LiveCD?
[06:20] <geoffmcc> !ot | BoyOfWuHan: villa
[06:21] <BoyOfWuHan> ok
[06:21] <villa> BoyOfWuHan, I am in suzhou now
[06:22] <Colonel_Panic> I want to create a bootable CD from a modified USB stick image
[06:23] <Colonel_Panic> Is there a way to set the boot flag when burning?
[06:26] <urlin2u> Colonel_Panic, is this a full install on the usb or a iso loaded with a persistent file?
[06:27] <Colonel_Panic> It's both
[06:28] <Colonel_Panic> I mean, it's a  bootable USB, and I have made an ISO out of it as well
[06:28] <urlin2u> Colonel_Panic, that makes no sense these are separate types of setups.
[06:28] <Colonel_Panic> But when I burn the DVD it's not bootbale
[06:29] <sharkmap> Colonel_Panic: not bootable, or not booting?
[06:29] <pandajsa> #linux
[06:29] <Colonel_Panic> I get the message "Can't read superblock".
[06:29] <urlin2u> Colonel_Panic, how did you get the image on the usb?
[06:29] <Colonel_Panic> I basically want to create a bootable DVD from a bootable USB flash stick.
[06:31] <Colonel_Panic> The idea is to take an existing distro from a bootable USB stick, add some programs, and then burn the whole thing to a bootable DVD
[06:31] <urlin2u> Colonel_Panic, can you answer some basic questions?
[06:32] <ParkerR> Is anyone here using a Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-850 or similar on their linux box?
[06:34] <zykotick9> ParkerR: i use a hauppauge 1600 for OTA HD, what is your real question?
[06:35] <ParkerR> Just how I get it working. I've tried many different instructions to no avail
[06:35] <urlin2u> Colonel_Panic, puppy linux is not supported here.
[06:37] <ParkerR> Brb
[06:38] <drake01> hi guys, Please suggest some great console applications for accessing usenet on linux
[06:38] <zaq_> hello this my first time
[06:38] <zapbuzz> how do i install a graphics driver in ubuntu 11.10 x64?
[06:39] <zykotick9> drake01: you could try tin?  I haven't used it myself.
[06:39] <acerimmer> drake01 - https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/319176:8-of-the-best-free-linux-usenet-tools
[06:39] <zaq_> i kinda built my own ubuntu
[06:39] <sharkmap> slrn
[06:40] <zaq_> could i get help finishing it
[06:41] <extender> is it normal for a raid to be degraded and recovering as soon as it's built?
[06:42] <ryan__> zapbuzz: What graphics card is it?
[06:42] <ParkerR> zykotick9, It shows up in dmesg but I have yet to find a program that will scan and find channels correctly
[06:43] <zaq_> help with panel ... pls
[06:43] <drake01> also how to access usenet without paying any provider for the same (except isp for internet usage, ofcourse)
[06:43] <ParkerR> It's an ATSC tuner but I want to use analog
[06:43] <zykotick9> ParkerR: verify you aren't getting any firmware errors "dmesg | grep firmware"
[06:44] <zapbuzz> s3/chrome 9 HC
[06:44] <zapbuzz> i got the latest openchrome driver but im new to installing drivers
[06:44] <ParkerR> zykotick9, Nope no errors :)
[06:45] <zaq_> pretty new
[06:45] <zykotick9> ParkerR: i've only ever used MythTV for viewing/recording TV, what are you using?
[06:46] <ParkerR> I'll try that. I don't remember exactly what I tried before
[06:47] <zykotick9> ParkerR: Myth isn't exactly simple to setup :|  BUT mythcontrolcenter (or similar name) "might" be a big help for you.
[06:47] <ParkerR> Ok.
[06:47] <zaq_> help w/ panel?
[06:48] <nowz> Hello, I would like to set up a Web server with Apache/PHP & Mysql
[06:48] <nowz> I heard about "lamp" but i don't find it in my apt
[06:48] <zykotick9> !lamp | nowz
[06:48] <nowz> So i would like to know if it's outdated or not
[06:49] <nowz> i'm running Ubuntu 11.10
[06:49] <nowz> zykotick9, lamp isn't in my aptitude like we can see on the ubuntu tutorial
[06:50] <acerimmer> !lamp|nowz
[06:50] <acerimmer> nowz read the note from ubotto
[06:50] <zykotick9> nowz: no it's not (isn't suppose to be) please see the link acerimmer and i just got ubottu to send you
[06:51] <nowz> oh ok thank you
[06:53] <ParkerR> zykotick9, Downloading mythbuntu-control-center now
[06:54] <zykotick9> ParkerR: it's not a nice GUI setup for the card, as well as remote stuff.  Hope it works out for ya.  BTW Myth once setup, is amazing.
[06:54] <zykotick9> ParkerR: TV listings cost $25 a year though
[06:54] <ParkerR> Meh I can live by just tuning
[06:55] <acerimmer> zykotick9 - still trying to distinguish between ubuntuTV and myth
[06:55] <zykotick9> acerimmer: ubuntutv is a canonical hardware project, while mythtv is a software suite
[06:56] <acerimmer> zykotick9 - got it.  thanks.
[06:56] <zapbuzz> where do i go to learn how to install drivers?
[06:58] <ryan__> zapbuzz: The file you have is a .tgz, right? All of the driver installers I have found from via are, and they have a vinstall in the directory
[06:58] <zykotick9> !cookie | ryan__
[06:58] <drake01> any irc channels to visit to put questions about usenet.. on freenode?
[06:58] <urlin2u> zykotick9, lol.
[06:59] <ryan__> Thank you for the cookie
[06:59] <zapbuzz> ryan where do i get that driver? all i got is openchrome
[07:00] <zykotick9> ryan__: oh oh, give that cookie back ;)
[07:00] <ryan__> Aww, I'm unworthy of the cookie
[07:00] <aBound> Is it possible to use Compiz and run multiple different backgrounds in each virtual desktop space?
[07:00] <zykotick9> ryan__: your answer looked SO good too
[07:01] <zapbuzz> my graphics hardware is VIA/S3 Chrome 9 HC p4m900
[07:01] <ryan__> zapbuzz: Maybe this will help? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome#Manual_Installation
[07:01] <zykotick9> aBound: sorta.  Not sure it's still possible BUT you couldn't have ANY icons on the desktop if you did it
[07:01] <kapz> hey guys! I want to try new ubuntu, but not that it's out for sometime I am sure there would be a lot of updates rolled out too. Is there a way to download the updated copy?
[07:01] <zapbuzz> xf86-video-openchrome-latest.tar.gz
[07:01] <kapz> *now that it's out.....
[07:02] <aBound> zykotick9, I normally don't use icons on my desktop it clutters it up. :P
[07:02] <ParkerR> zykotick9, I can't select channel scan in either area http://imgur.com/a/1hR9Q
[07:02] <urlin2u> kapz, there is a daily build the #ubuntu+1 channel is where 12.04 is addressed
[07:02] <kapz> urlin2u: I want the stable one not alpha one...
[07:02] <aBound> I see a wallpaper plugin for Compiz within the compiz settings manager but I can't say much if it does what I expect.
[07:03] <zykotick9> ParkerR: can i ask why you want analog?  Where are you?
[07:03] <zykotick9> ParkerR: i realize that's not directly related to your issue, but...
[07:03] <urlin2u> kapz, you will have to ask in the other channel it is in development, if you need a stable it is not technically stable.
[07:03] <ParkerR> zykotick9, Crappy antenna for ATSC
[07:03] <zapbuzz> i found http://openchrome.org/releases/  how to install a graphics driver
[07:04] <zapbuzz> ?
[07:04] <urlin2u> kapz, which ubuntu do you mean?
[07:04] <zykotick9> ParkerR: but Analog isn't broadcast in NorthAmerica anymore?
[07:04] <ParkerR> zykotick9, And living in a valley doesn't help
[07:04] <ParkerR> zykotick9, Naah cable line
[07:05] <zykotick9> ParkerR: when you did the "dmesg | grep firmware" did you see loaded messages?
[07:05] <kapz> urlin2u: I thinki you don't get my question, I dont want to spend my limited bandwith downloading the whole ISO then AGAIN downloading almost all the updated packages...is there a way to get a minimal install then just download the current packages such as unity,firefox 9/10 etc
[07:06] <acerimmer> !mini|kapz
[07:06] <urlin2u> kapz, of which one 12.04, 11.04...etc?
[07:06] <zykotick9> aBound: are you using Unity? not sure if it's possible with that either.
[07:06] <urlin2u> 11.10 is the question
[07:06] <ParkerR> zykotick9, There was just one "[    8.414357] iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: loaded firmware version 8.83.5.1 build 33692" Looking through dmesg it seems like the correct firmware was loaded for the card
[07:06] <kapz> urlin2u: stable release which is I think 11.10
[07:06] <zykotick9> ParkerR: i doubt that has to do with your TV card though?
[07:07] <aBound> zykotick9, Yes I'm using Unity. Figures, with the wallpaper plugin enabled it'll more or less work though Compiz is a bit buggy for 11.10.
[07:07] <urlin2u> kapz, you can use a minimal and do a netdownload
[07:07] <ParkerR> Nope
[07:07] <kapz> thanks ubottu, I guess this should sufffice
[07:08] <zykotick9> aBound: historically you had to enable the wallpaper plugin in compiz, then disable nautilus from controlling the desktop.  But I REALLY am not sure how to do it on modern systems (or if it's even possible), I'm talking old Gnome2.
[07:08] <brighthas> hello everybody.
[07:08] <urlin2u> kapz, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[07:08] <aBound> zykotick9, No problem I'll figure it out let's just hope I don't break Unity.
[07:08] <ParkerR> zykotick9, Entire dmesg output http://pastebin.com/8u6YMS4D
[07:08] <debian_noob> how do i autoconfigure a kernel for my system? like adding all drivers which are required and omit the ones that arent?
[07:09] <ParkerR> Ctrl + f then hauppauge should show it
[07:09] <ParkerR> zykotick9, Or just look towards the bottom
[07:10] <zykotick9> ParkerR: lol you assume i use firefox/chromium - i don't.  for me search is the vi like / key ;)
[07:10] <ParkerR> Heh
[07:10] <ryan__> zapbuzz: Hey, two ways to go about it. You have your prebuilt binaries at this site: http://openchrome.org/trac/wiki/Installation       OR   http://openchrome.org/trac/wiki/Installation this site has instructions on installing from the tarball
[07:10] <zapbuzz> thx ryan ill check it out
[07:11] <bootstrap> Anyone know what the launcher in the bottom left corner of the second picture is? http://axiom613.deviantart.com/art/Axiom-Elementary-Gnome-Shell-Theme-280041957?offset=20
[07:12] <zapbuzz> uh both links say server not found!!!!
[07:12] <acerimmer> applications menu
[07:12] <acerimmer> bootstrap - applications menu
[07:13] <zykotick9> ParkerR: the "xc5000: Firmware has not been loaded previously" concerns me a little... but i don't see anything "wrong" in there, nor can i confirm that everything is ok either :|  Sorry man, I think you've reached my knowledge limit on your card.  BEST of luck though.
[07:13] <zapbuzz> http://gamesplace.info/opensource/openchrome/dapper-binaries/     = DEAD
[07:13] <ParkerR> zykotick9, Thanks
[07:13] <IamMr1337> there are a lot of ppl in here
[07:14] <acerimmer> zapbuzz - dapper binaries?  WAY past end of life.
[07:14] <bootstrap> acerimmer: is that an extension?
[07:14] <acerimmer> bootstrap - dapper is the code name of ubntu 6.10 IIRC
[07:15] <memyself> can anyone tell the command to use if i want to use cron to load a webpage but not saving anything
[07:15] <acerimmer> bootstrap - 6.06
[07:15] <memyself> someting like wget ....
[07:15] <zykotick9> acerimmer: the "late" ubuntu
[07:15] <acerimmer> zykotick9 - that's not late, that's mummified
[07:16] <zykotick9> acerimmer: it was late, by two months, thus the .06 versus the scheduled .04
[07:16] <ryan__> zapbuzz: Okay, well you already have the tarball. All you need to do is decompress it using tar -xvzf file.tgz, and then cd into the directory. Then compile using ./configure, then make, then sudo make install
[07:16] <acerimmer> zykotick9 - I stand corrected.
[07:17] <zykotick9> zapbuzz: ryan__ WAIT - if it really is make, make install - use checkinstall (so it can be removed if there are issues)
[07:17] <zykotick9> !checkinstall | zapbuzz
[07:17] <ryan__> Yeah, sorry, usually skip that step... Best not to especially with drivers
[07:18] <memyself> can anyone help
[07:18] <memyself> i forgot the command for it
[07:18] <acerimmer> !ask memyself
[07:18] <zapbuzz> cbf
[07:18] <saganbyte> how can i get the trackpad of my laptop to scroll a page using 2 fingers
[07:19] <saganbyte> i tried mouseemu
[07:19] <zapbuzz> im that frustrated
[07:19] <saganbyte> i m using 10.04
[07:19] <memyself> can anyone tell the command to use if i want to use cron to load a webpage but not saving anything
[07:19] <memyself> i remember wget somting...
[07:19] <zykotick9> memyself: your question doesn't make much (if any) sense - or not to me anyways
[07:20] <zykotick9> memyself: wget can download a web page
[07:20] <acerimmer> saganbyte - Settings>Mouse>Trackpad
[07:20] <ParkerR> zykotick9, :D Got it working with tvtime --device=/dev/video1
[07:20] <ParkerR> Didn't even have to do a channel scan
[07:20] <zykotick9> ParkerR: NICE!
[07:21] <ParkerR> And this is all I want to do. Just watch.
[07:21] <acerimmer> ParkerR - http://imagebin.org/196269
[07:21] <administrator> dafda
[07:21] <memyself> i want to run a cron job that visit a page every 30 mins and i want to use wget to do it
[07:21] <saganbyte> acerimmer, for some reason Two-finger scrolling is disabled
[07:21] <memyself> so how do i write the command wget,,, ?
[07:21] <ParkerR> acerimmer, XD
[07:21] <theadmin> memyself: The command would be something like "wget -q http://example.org -O - > /dev/null"
[07:21] <zapbuzz> compile? sudo? ima newbie from windows i know not of all this build stuff why cant i just install a driver?
[07:22] <ryan__> memyself: man wget says that you can use --spider to check if the page is there but to not actually download it, if that helps your purpose
[07:22] <acerimmer> saganbyte - read through the area carefully as it's likely the setting is there.  Also, check that you didn't hit a hardware switch for the trackpad....
[07:22] <bob___> bitchx is not in apt repos ?
[07:22] <theadmin> bob___: That's not even developed anymore. Try irssi
[07:22] <saganbyte> acerimmer, ok
[07:22] <memyself> ok what does wget -O - -q  do ?
[07:22] <saganbyte> acerimmer, thank you :)
[07:22] <zykotick9> bob___: bitchx shouldn't be used anymore.  irssi as theadmin mentioned
[07:22] <bob___> ok thanks.
[07:23] <bazhang> !bitchx > bob___
[07:23] <bazhang> weechat is also an option bob___
[07:23] <theadmin> memyself: -q for quiet, so it doesn't output anything useless. -O - redirects all output to stdout (rather than a file), and then I just direct it to /dev/null so it doesn't flood cron logs.
[07:24] <theadmin> memyself: Actually, this would work too: wget -q http://example.org -O /dev/null
[07:24] <bob___> thanks guys.
[07:24] <ParkerR> zykotick9, Sucks I got this working at 2:24 in the morning. Infomercials gallore XD
[07:25] <zykotick9> ParkerR: ya, my Myth isn't setup to record anything else until tomorrow ;)
[07:25] <memyself> thanks theadmin
[07:27] <ryan__> zapbuzz: I can't get into the reasoning behind why linux works the way it does. However, there are ways to do it without the command line. You can find the prebuilt binary in either synaptic or the ubuntu software center, just search for xserver-xorg-video-openchrome
[07:28] <Guest71494> root/server irc.rizon.net join #UAD
[07:28] <aBound> Hey when using Firefox 10.0 and visiting www.grooveshark.com flash instantly crashes on me. Though when I use Google Chrome the site runs just fine in flash.
[07:29] <zapbuzz> sudo says whats my password and i try typing it and it wont enter
[07:29] <ParkerR> aBound, only thing flash in the new grooveshark is just the audio playback. Everything else is html5/javascript
[07:30] <zykotick9> zapbuzz: it doesn't show the password as you type it (if that's what you mean)
[07:30] <aBound> ParkerR, I know but once I'm on that site in Firefox it always says: Flash has crashed tells me to reload and nothing happens.
[07:30] <ParkerR> Weird
[07:30] <aBound> I know works flawlessly in google chrome.
[07:31] <aBound> Figures, one of my addons might be conflicting with it.
[07:31] <ryan__> Hmm, the site works perfectly on my Firefox 10.0...
[07:31] <zapbuzz> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[07:31] <zapbuzz> whats the rule?
[07:31] <aBound> ryan__, My guess is it's one of my addons conflicting with the site.
[07:32] <aBound> I prefer that site over youtube for music.
[07:32] <aBound> Oh well.
[07:33] <ParkerR> zykotick9, :) http://i.imgur.com/XzrbF.jpg
[07:34] <aBound> Dang, that's a bunch of channels Parker haha.
[07:34] <ParkerR> aBound, Heh
[07:34] <ophelias_> having same problem with firefox 11.0 on grooveshark
[07:34] <aBound> I only got one open and it's this channel.
[07:34] <aBound> ophelias_, Same problem I'm having eh?
[07:34] <ophelias_> yep
[07:35] <aBound> ophelias_, Figures, you tried disabling some addons you might have installed?
[07:36] <ophelias_> doing that..making a new profile
[07:36] <ophelias_> report back
[07:36] <zapbuzz> ryank i used the command sude and put my password in but it didnt install my graphics driver it said : *** No rule to make target `install'.
[07:37] <zapbuzz> do i just type install?
[07:37] <zapbuzz> fml
[07:37] <aBound> brb blah compiz
[07:37] <ryankey> zapbuzz: did you already use ./configure within the directory?
[07:37] <zapbuzz> yes
[07:38] <aBound> Back.
[07:39] <ParkerR> aBound, Oh you were gone? :P
[07:39] <aBound> :P
[07:39] <aBound> Yes, you wanted me gone. :P jk
[07:40] <zsolt> hi there.could somebody help me?installed postfix,but can't telnet to it from outside my vm
[07:40] <theadmin> zsolt: Wut kinda vm? Virtualbox?
[07:40] <zsolt> yes
[07:40] <zsolt> it is a bridged if
[07:40] <theadmin> Ah bridged
[07:40] <theadmin> Hm
[07:41] <theadmin> zsolt: Probably ask in #vbox
[07:41] <theadmin> Also telnet is gross >.<
[07:42] <aBound> ssh instead of telnetting. :P
[07:42] <theadmin> aBound: Well you don't ssh to a mail server, but yeah
[07:43] <aBound> ha
[07:44] <zsolt> if I try to telnet the ip it works,but with telnet domain 25 doesn't
[07:44] <ryankey> zapbuzz: So you had the .tar.gz file, decompressed it with tar, then cd into the folder. After that, you ran ./configure and it didn't give you any error messages?
[07:48] <zapbuzz> what is the rule to make sudo install my graphics driver???
[07:49] <buck420> ??
[07:49] <mukaibot> zapbuzz: sudo jockey-gtk
[07:49] <zapbuzz> ty
[07:49] <mukaibot> you're welcome
[07:50] <ryankey> Thank you mukaibot
[07:50] <mukaibot> ryankey: did I help you?
[07:50] <mukaibot> ryankey: I thought it was zapbuzz who wanted to know!
[07:50] <mukaibot> keep in mind that jockey-gtk will help you install the proprietary driver for you graphics card
[07:51] <ryankey> You helped zapbuzz, whom I was helping, and provided a much more eloquent solution. Now I know that in the future.
[07:51] <mukaibot> ryankey: ah cool, I didn't see the previous chats as I only joined the channel at 18:48 :)
[07:51] <zapbuzz> i thank you both and give you cookies with milk. cheers :o)
[07:51] <mukaibot> glad we got there!
[07:52] <osmosis> i am on  11.10.  how do I install gnome3?
[07:52] <mukaibot> does anyone have thoughts on OpenLDAP vs other LDAP daemons?
[07:52] <urlin2u> osmosis, I was told today it default, you have a gear on the login to choose it.
[07:53] <urlin2u> it's
[07:53] <osmosis> urlin2u, ok thx
[07:53] <buck420> i have a problem...kind of.  i have xubuntu installed on my pc... but i installed lxde, and would rather use that full time... is there anyway if uninstalling xfce and xubuntu all together?
[07:54] <mukaibot> buck420: I probably wouldn't bother. It won't save you much disk space, and they won't conflict
[07:54] <zapbuzz> says graphics unknown experience standard
[07:54] <buck420> oh ok.. thank you.
[07:54] <CharminTheMoose> I'm having a problem with a chroot natty install and initrd. A script that is supposed to drop me to a shell for debugging seemingly just loops constantly, but this doesn't happen when the plymouth splash screen is on.. Are the two related?
[07:54] <urlin2u> buck420, look at playing around http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[07:55] <mukaibot> zapbuzz: Can you please paste the output of "lspci"
[07:55] <buck420> ok i will, thanks.
[07:55] <zykotick9> !purelxde | buck420
[07:55] <urlin2u> buck420, your choice though as it is a small footprint as suggested.
[07:56] <zapbuzz> 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN896/VN896/P4M900 Host Bridge
[07:56] <zapbuzz> 00:00.1 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN896/VN896/P4M900 Host Bridge
[07:56] <zapbuzz> 00:00.2 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN896/VN896/P4M900 Host Bridge
[07:56] <zapbuzz> 00:00.3 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN896/VN896/P4M900 Host Bridge
[07:56] <zapbuzz> 00:00.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN896/VN896/P4M900 Host Bridge
[07:56] <zapbuzz> 00:00.5 PIC: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN896/VN896/P4M900 I/O APIC Interrupt Controller
[07:56] <FloodBot1> zapbuzz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:56] <aBound> Damn spammers.
[07:56] <coolstar-ipod> !enter | zapbuzz
[07:57] <mukaibot> zapbuzz: you can PM me, or paste it on pastebin
[07:57] <aBound> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[07:58] <buck420> ok, thank you... thats what i want to do. i know it wont free up alot of diskspace, but its getting kind of clutter because ive tried a ton of diffrent WMs and DEs but thank you
[07:58] <zapbuzz> oops
[07:58] <mukaibot> for anyone following zapbuzz's graphics issue, the relevant line from lspci he PM'd me is: 18:58 <zapbuzz> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN896/VN896/P4M900 [Chrome 9 HC] (rev 01)
[07:58] <frankieg> hi, looking for some assistance with dnat [prerouting] using ufw, any takers?
[07:58] <mukaibot> zapbuzz: is this a mini PC you're using?
[07:59] <CharminTheMoose> I'm having a problem with a chroot natty install and initrd. A script that is supposed to drop me to a shell for debugging seemingly just loops constantly making the cpu hit the roof(am running this in a VM), but this doesn't happen when the plymouth splash screen is on.. Are the two related?
[07:59] <mukaibot> zapbuzz: if you type "man openchrome", does it bring up a manual page?
[08:00] <smegzor> I'm having mouse trouble with a fresh install of a popular distro based on Ubuntu.  The reason I'm asking about it here is that it appears to be a fault common to Ubuntu.  A few reboots after doing a fresh install I can no longer mouse click.  The rest of the OS is running fine when this happens and changing the mouse (PS/2 and USB) doesn't help.  Is there anything I can do to fix this?
[08:02] <pangolin> smegzor: ask in your distros support channel.
[08:02] <smegzor> I have.  There are 20 people there and Google searching told me that its a common fault so it is relevant to Ubuntu.
[08:02] <zapbuzz> yes mukaibot
[08:03] <auronandace> smegzor: if you haven't confirmed this in ubuntu itself then we can't help you
[08:03] <theadmin> auronandace: I can confirm that this problem exists in Ubuntu actually, it happens on a random basis
[08:04] <theadmin> And seems to "fix" itself randomly too
[08:04] <pangolin> still does not mean he can seek support in here.
[08:04] <theadmin> Well, that's true
[08:04] <MindlessDream> Wireless problem. Who can help?
[08:04] <smegzor> All I really need is an idea of what to look for, in which log or config file incase there is some setting I should be changing.
[08:05] <zapbuzz> mukaibot should i msg you the manual page?
[08:05] <smegzor> I installed the latest Ubuntu first if you must know.  I uninstalled it the same day because of Unity.
[08:05] <MindlessDream> My network sometimes doesn't resume from suspension and I have to restart my computer to get it working again
[08:05] <linuxlalala> #ubuntu
[08:06] <auronandace> smegzor: you can use a different desktop if you want
[08:06] <MindlessDream> Why are there so many users on the right?
[08:06] <linuxlalala> node.net
[08:06] <linuxlalala> * Άγνωστος διακομιστής. Μήπως το γράψατε λάθος;
[08:06] <linuxlalala>  Μετάβαση στον επόμενο διακομιστή σε FreeNode...
[08:06] <linuxlalala> * Αποσυνδεθήκατε ().
[08:06] <linuxlalala> * Αναζήτηση irc.freenode.net
[08:06] <FloodBot1> linuxlalala: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:06] <MindlessDream> Yet no one can reply... :/
[08:06] <theadmin> MindlessDream: Not everybody knows the answer, most users are usually busy or asleep actually
[08:06] <smegzor> auronandace: True, but I prefer Gnome.  Can I run that minus Unity?
[08:07] <MindlessDream> oh okay, thought people would just log out. Damn
[08:07] <theadmin> smegzor: Sure, apt-get install gnome-shell
[08:07] <auronandace> smegzor: gnome3 yes
[08:07] <theadmin> smegzor: Then select "GNOME" in the session menu on the login screen
[08:07] <MindlessDream> how do I know if I'm using gnome or unity?
[08:07] <pp7_> is there any way to install older version of nvidia driver (before 270) on 11.10?
[08:07] <smegzor> I'll give it a go and throw a virtual mouse at you when it stops accepting clicks :)
[08:07] <theadmin> MindlessDream: If you have a stupid-looking huge panel on the left side of the screen, you're using Unity xD
[08:07] <urlin2u> MindlessDream, you have a panel on the keft from top to bottom?
[08:08] <DrDigital> how can i get java plugin on chrome?
[08:08] <linuxlalala> Hello, I use ubuntu and I want to get rid of Unity.I installed gnome-session-fallback, but the panels are locked and I can not unlock them and add or remove widgets.What should I do?
[08:08] <theadmin> DrDigital: apt-get install icedtea6
[08:08] <DrDigital> and good walk threw guides?
[08:08] <DrDigital> k
[08:08] <MindlessDream> Yes, that is unity correct?
[08:08] <theadmin> linuxlalala: You need to Alt+Rightclick the panels with gnome3 to do such things
[08:08] <theadmin> MindlessDream: Yeah
[08:08] <urlin2u> MindlessDream, yeah.
[08:09] <urlin2u> jix
[08:09] <MindlessDream> I know this isn't a chatting area, but why do people prefer gnome? everyone seems to hate unity
[08:09] <linuxlalala> I do not want to use Gnome3. I want to use old,classic gnome2.
[08:09] <theadmin> linuxlalala: You can't
[08:09] <auronandace> !gnome2 | linuxlalala
[08:09] <theadmin> linuxlalala: Gnome2 is no longer supported nor developed. Try XFCE.
[08:09] <linuxlalala> I can not even compile it?
[08:09] <pp7_> !notunity
[08:09] <urlin2u> linuxlalala, it's still on 10.04
[08:10] <DrDigital> theadmin, E: Unable to locate package icedtea6
[08:10] <theadmin> linuxlalala: You can still use gnome2 on Mint, they continued it's development
[08:10] <theadmin> !find icedtea
[08:10] <theadmin> DrDigital: Bah, it's "icedtea-plugin" now
[08:10] <CharminTheMoose> I'm having a problem with a chroot natty install and initrd. A script that is supposed to drop me to a shell for debugging seemingly just loops constantly making the cpu hit the roof(am running this in a VM), but this doesn't happen when the plymouth splash screen is on.. Are the two related?
[08:10] <linuxlalala> Is there a Mate package?
[08:10] <theadmin> linuxlalala: Not for Ubuntu sadly
[08:10] <linuxlalala> I can not even download the debian deb?
[08:11] <theadmin> linuxlalala: Debian and Ubuntu never were compatible, so nope
[08:11] <smegzor> theadmin: Thats the distro I'm having mouse trouble on.  I'm going to try the KDE Mint first as the 1 thing that really bugs me about Ubuntu is the move to look and feel like a Mac.
[08:11] <linuxlalala> Then, it seems that I will install CentOS or Mint.
[08:12] <zapbuzz> all i can say is my pc has a Foxconn mobo
[08:12] <osmosis> just loaded up lxde for the first time. It didnt bring over my dual monitor config from gnome where the desktop is extended. Instead, the monitors are being mirrored now. How do I fix?
[08:12] <theadmin> smegzor: Try Xubuntu, feels like gnome2 a lot
[08:12] <linuxlalala> Ok, Ok.Just I just cant do my job in gnome3 and unity shell.
[08:12] <theadmin> osmosis: You can try installing lxrandr and using that
[08:13] <theadmin> linuxlalala: Try Xubuntu, it's almost identical to gnome2
[08:13] <mukaibot> zapbuzz: sorry, I went away for a bit. What was the output from "man openchrome"
[08:13] <CharminTheMoose> Or just use gnome2. I've never let the fact software is not being developed stop me from using it
[08:13] <linuxlalala> How big is the ISO?
[08:14] <osmosis> theadmin, lxrandr  shows both monitors and lets me change the resolution, but doesnt say anything about mirroring or not
[08:15] <DrDigital> theadmin, thanks
[08:15] <urlin2u> linuxlalala, you can look at the downloads if you want an exact size.
[08:15] <theadmin> linuxlalala: About 700 meters like usual
[08:16] <zapbuzz> which section? description? config?
[08:20] <zapbuzz> i guess my pc is a mini tower pc
[08:20] <zapbuzz> what do i need to make my exfat usb drive work with ubuntu
[08:22] <cristian_c> Hi
[08:22] <osmosis> so i looked at the login screen under the config wheel, and there is no gnome3 login option. how do I install it?
[08:23] <cristian_c> I'm using Oneiric Ocelot 11.10, I purchased an asus WL-330gE. The device shields the connection to the router, unfortunately I have to first establish a direct connection to the router, and then the computer automatically snaps to a repeater. But if the PC tries to connect to the router via the repeater, it fails
[08:23] <cristian_c> the network manager tries to connect several times, but it fails to connect. So I updated the firmware to the latest version, from version 2.0.1.9 to 2.0.2.0, but unfortunately the problem persists
[08:23] <cristian_c> What can I do to solve the problem?
[08:31] <osmosis> how do I change the position of the launcher tray?
[08:37] <osmosis> is there a way to change the window manager so that it shows the full window when resizing, instead of just an outline?
[08:37] <flowerpot> In Ubuntu, if I wanted to get the source of a given package, how would I/
[08:37] <flowerpot> ?
[08:38] <osmosis> flowerpot, dpkg -S   i think
[08:38] <flowerpot> that does a search, it looks like
[08:38] <osmosis> -L
[08:39] <flowerpot> looks like I don't have source for the program i want.
[08:39] <flowerpot> osmosis, that's a useful command though.  thanks!
[08:40] <auronandace> !source
[08:41] <pp7> name me a good linux hex editor
[08:42] <Stanley00> !info ghex2 | pp7
[08:42] <Stanley00> !info ghex | pp7
[08:42] <`Abhijit> Hello. Am on ubuntu 10.04. Just installed updates for Firefox, which got me on FF 9.0.1. I want to revert back to 3.6.24. Any suggestions. Thanks
[08:43] <pp7> Stanley00, thx, installing
[08:43] <theadmin> `Abhijit: You can probably find it on releases.mozilla.org, other than that... get away from Firefox, it's evil
[08:43] <Stanley00> pp7: np :D
[08:44] <pp7> looks alot like Bless - Hex editor
[08:44] <lightpriest> I'm trying to get my wifi working on thinkpad E320 (broadcom) but it looks like it's not recognized
[08:44] <`Abhijit> thank you theadmin. what other browser would you suggest?
[08:44] <ryankey> theadmin, why do you say it's evil? And if you are going to say that, at least recommend a different browser please?
[08:44] <theadmin> `Abhijit: I use Chromium/Chrome
[08:44] <`Abhijit> thank you
[08:44] <theadmin> ryankey: It's evil because it eats a ton of memory, needs constant restarting and bothers you with advertising itself whenever you start a new profile
[08:44] <theadmin> But that's just me
[08:45] <makara> hi. How can I access the web interface on my modem, sitting behind my router. It used to be 192.168.1.1 but that's taken by the router now. I thought it would be the gateway address, but that isn't the case
[08:45] <theadmin> makara: You prolly can assign an IP via the router's interface. Looking at connected devices might help.
[08:47] <pp7> how do i fix this google-chrome/unity/nvidia driver bug?: http://imgur.com/vu5am
[08:48] <theadmin> pp7: Does this always happen? On what pages? Which driver do you use, which Ubuntu version are you on?
[08:48] <pp7> theadmin, happen frequently when i open a new page in google chrome, nvidia 290.10, ubuntu 11.10
[08:49] <theadmin> pp7: Hm I see... Have you tried alternative new tab pages? Some of them are actually awesome. Might help. If you need the standard one, well, I'd go and ask in #chromium-support
[08:50] <pp7> theadmin, what u mean alternative new tab pages?
[08:50] <theadmin> pp7: That happens on chrome://newtab, right?
[08:50] <osmosis> need to know how to resize windows in realtime without the grey (orange) shadow frame, and how to move the unity launcher to the bottom of my screen.
[08:50] <pp7> theadmin, hmm no
[08:51] <theadmin> pp7: Oh, then it happens on any page?
[08:51] <pp7> theadmin, but i can't really reproduce it at will
[08:51] <theadmin> pp7: I see... Meh, then I suggest going to #chromium-support, doesn't really sound like an Ubuntu issue unless... you say it only happens in Unity?
[08:51] <pp7> theadmin, usually happens when a page causes another tab to open
[08:52] <pp7> theadmin, yea never happened to be before in previous ubuntu versions
[08:52] <theadmin> pp7: I see, could you install some other lightweight DE and try there? I don't see the real need to keep using Unity
[08:52] <theadmin> pp7: I suggest xfce
[08:53] <pp7> theadmin, i prefer unity
[08:53] <theadmin> pp7: mmmok, does it work in unity2d?
[08:53] <pp7> dunno
[08:54] <pp7> wouldn't use unity2d anyway
[08:54] <theadmin> pp7: Either way, do "ubuntu-bug unity" and report it. Nothing we can really do to help
[08:54] <theadmin> That's a problem to feed to the developers
[08:54] <theadmin> I personally think Unity is good but not really ready to be given to general public yet... Too much of a work-in-progress state on it, imo
[08:55] <grubbyone> how do I change my boot options on a liveUSB?
[08:56] <theadmin> grubbyone: You can't really change anything on a liveUSB, any changes are wiped after reboot/shutdown. If you mean to change them for a single boot, then you have to hold Left Shift while GRUB is loading, then edit the kernel line like usual
[08:56] <grubbyone> even with persistence?
[08:56] <theadmin> grubbyone: Ah if you have persistence then you can change them the normal way (edit /etc/default/grub and then run sudo update-grub)
[08:57] <theadmin> grubbyone: Should have said that first, details are important :D
[08:57] <grubbyone> nice, didn't know where to find that
[08:57] <grubbyone> thanks
[08:57] <theadmin> grubbyone: np
[08:58] <theadmin> grubbyone: Hint: the line you're looking for is GRUB_CMDLINE_DEFAULT
[08:58] <lightpriest> hey, I'm trying to make wifi working on my laptop (broadcom chip) but it's acting weird. It's like the module is not even loaded
[08:59] <grubbyone> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT?
[08:59] <theadmin> grubbyone: Oh, yeah, that, sorry
[08:59] <theadmin> grubbyone: I'm not used to Ubuntu's style of grub config handling honestly
[08:59] <totesmuhgoats> lightpriest: do you need help loading the module?
[09:00] <grubbyone> yeah unfortunately I still have no idea what I'm doing, long night of reading aheard
[09:00] <grubbyone> ahead
[09:00] <lightpriest> totesmuhgoats, I actually don't know what I need help with. The module is loaded, but NetworkManager doesn't even see any wireless cards
[09:01] <theadmin> lightpriest: Can you run "iwlist wlan0 scan" and see if that returns anything?
[09:02] <totesmuhgoats> ah, i don't know much about wireless
[09:02] <beppe80> hello
[09:02] <lightpriest> theadmin, iwconfig doesn't show any wireless extensions. this is the weird part. it's like wifi card doesn't exist (although lspci shows it)
[09:02] <beppe80> I installed konqueror in Ubuntu 11.10: you can have it in Italian?
[09:03] <theadmin> lightpriest: Meh sounds like you needzit to load the module, that's the only reason I can think of for it not appearing
[09:04] <lightpriest> theadmin, the module is loaded (broadcom-wl/wl)
[09:04] <lightpriest> theadmin, is there a way to load modules with debug (verbose) mode?
[09:04] <theadmin> lightpriest: Ah wl... It has a strange bug -- it creates wireless interfaces as eth*, which makes networkmanager all confused. Can you "iwlist eth1 scan"?
[09:05] <lightpriest> theadmin, all I have is lo and eth0 (which is really eth)
[09:05] <theadmin> lightpriest: I see then, hm.
[09:05] <ntr0py> Can i somehow disable/alter subpixel rendering in firefox 10? I have a BGR (not RGB) screen and fonts look very ugly.
[09:05] <lightpriest> theadmin, I'm gonna try brcm80211 (not the wl ones)
[09:06] <pk__> sometime back i set the grub screen time to 0 ..Now my comuter wont show grub screen..i have forgotton the password and now i am trying to reset the password through single user mode but dont know how to boot it in single user mode without having the grub screen..please hrlp
[09:06] <theadmin> lightpriest: Can you do the following?: sudo rmmod b43 && sudo rmmod ssb && sudo rmmod wl && sudo modprobe wl
[09:06] <osmosis> how do set ubuntu to resize the windows immediately instead of only resizing an outline
[09:06] <theadmin> lightpriest: b43 and ssb conflict with wl sometimes
[09:06] <osmosis> how do I move the app launcher to the bottom of my screen!?
[09:06] <theadmin> osmosis: ccsm can do the second one and likely the first one too
[09:07] <lightpriest> theadmin, all these (b43, ssb, etc.) are blacklisted and not loaded
[09:07] <lightpriest> theadmin, I'll try the other OS driver
[09:08] <theadmin> lightpriest: Ok... well, you may need to also modprobe lib80211 in case it doesn't automatically load when wl does
[09:08] <arunkumar413> hi, i want to install android on my ubuntu 11.10. I've downloaded the android sdk and installed the sdk. Now i want to configure both of these to start developing android apps. Please help me how to configure
[09:09] <makara> theadmin: its a linksys E3000 with DD-WRT. I don't see any setting for 'attached devices'
[09:09] <arunkumar413> sorry. * installed the eclipse
[09:09] <theadmin> makara: dd-wrt? I haz that too, just a sec, I'll look where it was. I'm *sure* it has that
[09:11] <theadmin> makara: http://192.168.1.1/Status_Lan.asp - here you can find a list of all currently connected clients, you can probably figure out which is what
[09:11] <osmosis> theadmin, good enough
[09:12] <ntr0py> Can i somehow use the system-cairo library with firefox?
[09:18] <ryankey> ntr0py, All I can find is to open firefox from the command line with --enable-cairo
[09:18] <ryankey> Maybe that helps?
[09:19] <almoxarife> !info googlizer
[09:20] <cJether> hello everybody
[09:21] <ryankey> Hello
[09:21] <cJether> I am a beijing man
[09:22] <cJether> I am seeing the film The Social Network
[09:22] <cJether> It's wonderful
[09:22] <ntr0py> ryankey: Thanks, i also tried --enable-system-cairo, but unfortunately FF seems to be the only app which would not respect the gnome systemwide settings for font smoothing, so its unusable for me atm and i am forced to use chrome...
[09:22] <cJether> chrome is good , i think
[09:23] <llutz> +suuport+ cJether
[09:23] <llutz> cJether: this is support-chan, pls join #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:23]  * almoxarife has been forced to use chromium now for years
[09:24] <ntr0py> cJether: it is, but for some scenarios the good old standard ff is still better
[09:24] <almoxarife> cJether: or for real fun join ##politics
[09:25] <ntr0py> chrome has massive problems with flash for example
[09:25] <almoxarife> ntr0py: not so
[09:25] <crizzy> like what problems?
[09:25] <almoxarife> ntr0py: i would go so far as to say, 'not at all'
[09:26] <cJether> Ask a simple question
[09:26] <cJether> Which IRC Software do you use
[09:26] <the^user> helther skelter ircsoftware
[09:26] <cJether> pardon?
[09:27] <ntr0py> it uses native gtk windows for flash, sometimes i have to reload 3 times to get youtube running and context menu would not me usable aside scrolling inside flash dont propagate to chromium
[09:27] <almoxarife> cJether: quassel here, but the options are enormous
[09:27] <the^user> aanvaard
[09:27] <ntr0py> none of these problems arise in ff
[09:27] <cJether> sorry i'm chinese but i cannot follow you
[09:28] <__Alex_> Flash works great in Iceweasel, i report
[09:28] <scientes> how do i install ubuntu arm in qemu-arm ?
[09:28] <cJether> don't know
[09:28] <scientes> i.e. where is the approiate cd image?
[09:28] <ntr0py> i just want my ff usable
[09:28] <cJether> which gui do you like better,gnome or kde?
[09:28] <scientes> instead of these board-specific tar.gzs
[09:28] <almoxarife> cJether: dont answer questions with a 'dont know'
[09:29] <cJether> sorry
[09:29] <__Alex_> scientes: Metalx1000 made a Video tutorial to install debian on qemu-arm, but ubuntu should be the same
[09:29] <almoxarife> ntr0py: i have found chromium to be that usable FF we cant speak of
[09:29] <__Alex_> scientes: There is no CD image, you have to load the kernel and the Initrd
[09:30] <scientes> __Alex_, ok, i know how to do that
[09:30] <scientes> where is the ubuntu installer download?
[09:30] <scientes> in fact, i've done that before, a few years ago
[09:31] <ntr0py> almoxarife, i DO use chromium most of the time, but on flash sites its just too buggy for me, so i would like ff (which runs fine except for the ugly fonts) to be usable as well.
[09:31] <__Alex_> scientes: People at #ubuntu-arm sould help you
[09:32] <almoxarife> ntr0py: that FF sounds buggy
[09:33] <almoxarife> ntr0py: ok, is the font issue specific to FF only?
[09:33] <shovell> a few years ago i had used a remote admin progrem and it had *box or something like that for a name
[09:35] <almoxarife> ntr0py: would you humor me and pass me the link to a site where the 'flash' is buggy in chrome/ium?
[09:36] <almoxarife> shovell: virtual(box)?
[09:36] <cJether> tokyo?
[09:36] <cJether> Oracle Virtual Box?
[09:36] <shovell> hmm no i am thinking it was ebox
[09:36] <cJether> what's ebox
[09:36] <almoxarife> cJether: yes
[09:37] <cJether> I have used Virtual Box, Virtual PC, and VmWare
[09:37] <cJether> All of Three Virtual Machines.
[09:37] <ntr0py> almoxarife: yes its only ff which seems to be bundled with its own (buggy) version of cairo, and youtube.com has the problems with flash in chromium
[09:38] <__Alex_> cJether: You forgot qEmu
[09:38] <cJether> qEmu
[09:38] <ciao> hi
[09:38] <cJether> what's thar
[09:38] <cJether> that
[09:38] <__Alex_> Emulator
[09:38] <__Alex_> Virtual Machine
[09:39] <ciao> emulator
[09:39] <__Alex_> The one Virtualbox is based on
[09:39] <cJether> whole name of qemu?
[09:39] <rrs> My pbuilder doesn't seem to be honoring the APTCACHE value. Anyone can help?
[09:39] <overclucker> !info qemu
[09:39] <cJether> !info qemu
[09:41] <overclucker> strange, i thought qemu-kvm was the package name for kqemu
[09:41] <cJether> oh
[09:41] <cJether> i am trying qemu
[09:41] <almoxarife> rrs: tried asking the #apache guys/gals?
[09:42] <cJether> qemu for windows?
[09:42] <almoxarife> !info windows
[09:42] <almoxarife> cJether: nope, wont work in ubuntu
[09:43] <overclucker> qemu can be a bit slow. if your cpu supports kvm it's worth getting the qemu-kvm package, and running qemu with --enable-kvm
[09:43] <cJether> can i use qemu in windows?
[09:43] <iceroot> i have to shells open, both have LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, in the first shell i type "LANG=us_US.UTF-8" then i closed this shell, the second shell is giving "echo $LANG with de_DE.UTF-8" but now the programs there use english. i dont get why this second shell (never saw the us.US.UTF-8" is now using english
[09:43] <__Alex_> cJether: http://homepage3.nifty.com/takeda-toshiya/
[09:44] <__Alex_> Wait no, wrong link
[09:44] <iceroot> sorry wrong channel, should be go to #bash
[09:44] <overclucker> notsure how well vista7 does on it
[09:44] <__Alex_> http://homepage3.nifty.com/takeda-toshiya/qemu/qemu-0.13.0-windows.zip
[09:44] <scarleo> Is there a way to have Nautilus NOT shut down whenever I close a remote connection? I want it to fall back to home folder
[09:45] <cJether> is it a video game
[09:45] <cJether> wo.........
[09:45] <almoxarife> scarleo: you started nautilus in a ssh session?
[09:46] <imgx64> I reported a bug in Banshee two months ago (https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=665356 ), but no one has responded. Can someone please confirm it or at least give me a workaround for the problem?
[09:46] <scarleo> almoxarife, no, but I have a ssh connection open, displaying the folders and then unmounting that ssh and nautilus closes
[09:47] <scarleo> almoxarife, I expect it to fall back to something, not close
[09:47] <almoxarife> scarleo: nautilus is opened within the ssh session? otherwise why would it close?
[09:49] <theadmin> almoxarife: (s)he's using an sftp:// connection from Nautilus, which makes a pseudo-"device" appear in the left bar. If you unmount that device with the folder being currently open, nautilus will close itself
[09:49] <theadmin> (which is a sane behaviour, in my opinion)
[09:50] <scarleo> theadmin, sane? :) I still need nautilus, just not the ssh/sftp session
[09:50] <scarleo> it's annoying
[09:50] <imgx64> I find Nautilus inconsistent about that. When I unmount/eject a drive I'm currenlty in, it sometimes goes to the home folder and sometimes closes.
[09:50] <theadmin> scarleo: Yeah, well, uh... Click "Home" in the left bar *before* unmounting?
[09:51] <almoxarife> scarleo: never mind, one way to keep nautilus from closing yet being able to access remote via sftp is to install 'gigolo' and set it up to keep the session open and avail to navigate at .gvfs, worked for me
[09:51] <scarleo> theadmin, like imgx64 says, it behaves different different times. Sometimes it even closes when I'm in home and closes a ssh session
[09:51] <scarleo> and sometimes it falls back to home when I'm displaying the ssh session
[09:52] <theadmin> scarleo: Huh... Well, I don't use nautilus myself so I dunno. Weird behaviour indeed
[09:52] <almoxarife> scarleo: purge nautilus and re-install, freshen it up
[09:53] <scarleo> almoxarife, yeah, I'll try that
[09:53] <almoxarife> scarleo: and look at your syslog for anything obvious
[09:54] <cJether> i have downloaded qemu
[09:54] <ciao> !lista
[09:54] <cJether> but i don't know how to use
[09:54] <scarleo> almoxarife, gonna try it in my 12.04 install if it's the same there, thanks
[09:54] <cJether> is there a manual in chinese
[09:54] <paolo> ciao
[09:55] <almoxarife> scarleo: the issues may also be related to 12.04
[09:55] <scarleo> almoxarife, I'm not in 12.04 now, I have it on another partition
[09:55] <almoxarife> cJether: cant read chinese, would not know
[09:56] <overclucker> cJether: qemu configures everything from the command line
[09:58] <theadmin> cJether: Might want to try virtualbox, it has a much more obvious interface
[10:00] <almoxarife> cJether: did you know that your ident(a link) comes up as a source of malware according to google?? yeah i looked, and you have lost your luster
[10:02] <cJether> qemu is hard for me
[10:04] <quietone> can anyone show how to file a bug report, about wiki.ubuntu.com? the help refers to apport, which I don't have as I don't use ubuntu anymore
[10:05] <SteM> Hi, i've upgrated to 11.10 and i've lost the bookmarks on Firefox, any idea?
[10:05] <theadmin> quietone: Add it manually to the Ubuntu project on LP
[10:05] <cJether> my qemu is for windows
[10:06] <quietone> theadmin, please provide a link, I am just going in circles
[10:07] <theadmin> quietone: http://launchpad.net/ubuntu
[10:09] <quietone> theadmin, thx. But I still don't see what to do.
[10:09] <theadmin> quietone: There is a "report a bug" on the right
[10:10] <lujo> 落日的余辉
[10:10] <quietone> theadmin, yes, it sends me to a help page that is designed for ubuntu users
[10:10] <theadmin> quietone: Just a second, please
[10:11] <theadmin> quietone: bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/PACKAGENAME/+filebug?no-redirect -- use a URL like that
[10:12] <rrs> almoxarife: What does it have to do with apache?
[10:13] <SilentDrgn> What do you all think of the System76 laptops?
[10:13] <bazhang> SilentDrgn, they come with ubuntu
[10:13] <quietone> theadmin, tried that too. what would be the packagename for wiki.ubuntu.com?
[10:13] <ajah> i recently updated my ubuntu when i move the cursor it prompts me back to log in screen
[10:13] <SilentDrgn> I figured that part out.
[10:13] <theadmin> quietone: Err... A bug on the wiki? That doesn't really make sense actually
[10:14] <bazhang> SilentDrgn, need support? or just wish to chat
[10:14] <SilentDrgn> I am looking at an Asus and the System76 Pangolin
[10:14] <quietone> theadmin, yes the wiki has a bug. I receive notifications for a page that I am not subscribed to. I
[10:15] <SilentDrgn> Trying to decide which route I should go. I can save money on the Asus and I like the battery life and specs are pretty nice. Is the System76 that much better with his direct support of Ubuntu?
[10:15] <rere> hello
[10:15] <Gentoo64> SilentDrgn, theyre not special in terms of saving money
[10:15] <rere> Gentoo64: hey
[10:15] <Gentoo64> hi
[10:16] <quietone> theadmin, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=89178be0fadd9186e99d5477a5c91fae&t=1885785
[10:16] <SilentDrgn> Is Ubuntu pretty good with new laptops? Still new to Ubuntu.
[10:17] <theadmin> quietone: Report here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website
[10:17] <Gentoo64> SilentDrgn, it should be
[10:17] <Gentoo64> SilentDrgn, im not too up on laptops though
[10:17] <SilentDrgn> Battery life is a big deal for me. Getting 4+ with my current laptop. Like to get at least the same.
[10:17] <SilentDrgn> Its all good. Any info is great.
[10:19] <AndroUser2> Hi all
[10:20] <SteM> anyone had problems with the bookmark on Firefox on 11.10 ?
[10:21] <gundy> anyone know of a good channel to get brctl support?
[10:22] <gugurang> Anyone knows if Ubuntu has a support already for nVidia Optimus technology? I'm using Acer 4750G and when I activated both video cards (Intel & nVidia) my 11.04 would not switch properly
[10:23] <arunkumar413> any one know how to install android sdk on ubuntu
[10:23] <iceroot> gugurang: 12.04 should have it as it was introduced into linux-3.2
[10:24] <iceroot> !ops | CanolaOil (pm spam)
[10:24] <SteM> arunkumar413: you havo to download the Linux package from android site
[10:24] <gugurang> iceroot: thanks for the info...
[10:25] <CanolaOil> oh stop your fucking lying iceroot
[10:25] <iceroot> gugurang: its disabled in earlier versions because there is a memory-leak in the driver
[10:25] <iceroot> CanolaOil: thanks for making the kick easier
[10:25] <bazhang> CanolaOil, thats not acceptable here. please stop now
[10:25] <CanolaOil> what isn't acceptable?
[10:25] <CanolaOil> that iceroot is lying through his teeth?
[10:25] <bazhang> CanolaOil, number one, your language
[10:25] <arunkumar413> SteM: i downloaded the sdk and installed the eclipse. but i'm getting an error while installing adt plugin
[10:26] <theadmin> CanolaOil: iceroot is a well-known and respected helper here, unlike you who I see for the first time. Who are we supposed to beleive more?
[10:26] <SteM> arunkumar413: which error?
[10:26] <SteM> arunkumar413: which eclipse?
[10:26] <CanolaOil> he is my exboyfriend with a vendetta
[10:26] <varikonniemi> hello, i am wondering why disk utility says my second hard drive is not big enough to expand my raid array, when it is exactly to the byte same size as my first hard disk?
[10:26] <almoxarife> oh dear
[10:27] <iceroot> theadmin: bazhang thx
[10:27] <zsolt> hi there!got a dns problem.i can test with host,dig,nslookup www.domain but if try to ping returns unknown host
[10:27] <bazhang> CanolaOil, thats the last warning. stay on topic
[10:27] <zsolt> seems that bind9 configured well
[10:28] <iceroot> bazhang: just do it (dont want to paste the whole pm here) also i cant message you
[10:28] <almoxarife> i cant see what it is that this CanolaOil did on channel, ????, just me?
[10:28] <almoxarife> prior to the mouthing
[10:29] <iceroot> bazhang: almoxarife http://pastebin.com/FjsvtnCL
[10:30] <almoxarife> iceroot: that a private conversation?
[10:30] <iceroot> almoxarife: yes
[10:30] <llutz> iceroot: i'd suggest http://scripts.irssi.org/html/whitelist.pl.html
[10:30] <iceroot> almoxarife: pm spam
[10:30] <CanolaOil> no
[10:31] <CanolaOil> was a conversation about our relationship
[10:31] <almoxarife> iceroot: may i suggest the ignore function?
[10:31] <bazhang> lets get back to ubuntu support please
[10:31] <iceroot> almoxarife: i prefer /kick over /ignore
[10:31] <theadmin> zsolt: Certain domains may block pings
[10:31] <theadmin> iceroot: /kick doesn't stop a person from pming you actually.
[10:31] <iceroot> llutz: i dont think its a good idea because i am also using icq over irc/irssi
[10:32] <llutz> theadmin: those won't returen " unknown host"
[10:32] <iceroot> theadmin: but protection others here
[10:32] <varikonniemi> lol, i did sudo mdadm /dev/md0 --add /dev/sda and it worked
[10:32] <varikonniemi> so something in disk utility is broken
[10:32] <zsolt> looks like the dns resolution not works outside my virtual machine
[10:33] <almoxarife> iceroot: i would suggest you use a filter akin to pidgins allow pm, if not on the list no pm-chat, cause otherwise every loon in the world will be wanting a chat
[10:34] <iceroot> almoxarife: i will have a look at that topic
[10:34] <alejandro> One question, what are the options in fstab for a SSD?
[10:35] <almoxarife> iceroot: i have yet to figure out the same filter option in quassel, too bad for so far
[10:35] <llutz> alejandro: "discard" but be warned, if you delete something you definetly won't get it back
[10:35] <zsolt> any suggestions?this is a strange problem,and can't use mail system,because dns resolution not works
[10:35] <iceroot> zsolt: what does your dns-setup looks like?
[10:36] <iceroot> zsolt: local dns server?
[10:36] <zsolt> yes
[10:36] <iceroot> zsolt: you are hosting a own domain just with your dns?
[10:36] <iceroot> zsolt: and want to send public mails with that?
[10:36] <zsolt> it is a local network
[10:37] <iceroot> zsolt: please give as a short and usefull overview about your setup
[10:37] <zsolt> dns IN A 192.168.1.107
[10:38] <zsolt> mail IN A 192.168.1.107
[10:39] <zsolt> test. IN MX 10 mail.test.local
[10:39] <Stava> how does mini carrots work?
[10:39] <bazhang> Stava, pardon?
[10:39] <Stava> baby carrots
[10:39] <zsolt> everything is fine inside,but if i try to use it outside my vm there are errors like host not found
[10:40] <Stava> how do they work
[10:40] <bazhang> Stava, what does that have to do with ubuntu support
[10:40] <theadmin> Stava: Same way as magnets. Nothing to discuss in #ubuntu though
[10:40] <Peace> ss
[10:40] <Stava> bazhang: apparently im in the wrong channel
[10:42] <Gabi> everytime i try to do something in terminal like : ./install or anything else it says : bash: ./install: command not found
[10:42] <Gabi> how can i fix it
[10:42] <iceroot> Gabi: you cant fix it
[10:42] <theadmin> Gabi: Is "install" marked executable? Is it really not a typo?
[10:42] <iceroot> Gabi: ./install means to execute a file called install
[10:42] <quietone> theadmin, thanks I had a go. When I clicked 'submit' I got a new page "Not allowed here. you don't have permission...." So, I am not sure it worked.
[10:42] <Gabi> yes guys , i cannot execute
[10:42] <iceroot> Gabi: ah yes check if it is executable (or if the file exists)
[10:43] <iceroot> Gabi: chmod +x install
[10:44] <Gabi> same
[10:44] <Gabi> the file exits and is executable i think my ubuntu is messedup
[10:44] <llutz> Gabi: "ls -l install"
[10:44] <bazhang> Gabi, install what exactly
[10:44] <bazhang> Gabi, and how often have you been going outside package management
[10:46] <theadmin> Gabi: I would like to point out that "install", "Install", "InStAlL" and "INSTALL" are all *different* names. Linux is case-sensetive. You understand that?
[10:46] <chroot> hi, how to uninstall nautilus in ubuntu 11.10?
[10:46] <theadmin> chroot: err should come preinstalled
[10:46] <theadmin> chroot: But if you removed it, then just apt-get install nautilus like usual
[10:47] <chroot> theadmin, my  file manager dosen't work well, so i want to remove it and better be clean?
[10:47] <chroot> can you do this ?
[10:47] <chroot> install dosen't work.
[10:47] <theadmin> chroot: wut? That didn't make any sense
[10:48] <Gabi> bazhang i didnt too often
[10:48] <Gabi> 2.6.26-2-686
[10:48] <Gabi> how can i update ?
[10:48] <bazhang> Gabi, and install what exactly? whats your version of ubuntu as well
[10:48] <chroot> what, everytime when i open the file manager, the nautilus consume %100 cpu , it is really sick.
[10:48] <Gabi> Ubuntu 10.04.3
[10:48] <chroot> so i want to uninstall nautilus.
[10:49] <Gabi>  LTS \n \l
[10:49] <theadmin> chroot: Well try to install another file manager then. Some suggestions are spacefm, thunar, pcmanfm, mc
[10:49] <theadmin> chroot: sudo apt-get install your_prefered_filemanager && sudo apt-get purge nautilus
[10:49] <bazhang> Gabi, and this instance, what are you trying to install
[10:50] <chroot> theadmin, and which file manager is better in your idea except the nautilus?
[10:50] <theadmin> chroot: I use thunar myself
[10:50] <chroot> and  is thunnar works well in ubuntu?
[10:50] <theadmin> chroot: Sure.
[10:51] <chroot> ok, i will install it.
[10:51] <chroot> and theadmin what kind of ubuntu are you using?
[10:52] <theadmin> chroot: I'm not an Ubuntu user at all, I use Arch.
[10:52] <Digital_Lemon> how can i change my timezone for one user only?
[10:52] <bazhang> Gabi, what are you trying to install in this instance
[10:52] <theadmin> Digital_Lemon: You can try setting the TZ environment variable on user login
[10:52] <chroot> theadmin,  i got a little confused about a question?
[10:52] <theadmin> chroot: Huh?
[10:53] <Digital_Lemon> where is that set...?
[10:53] <theadmin> Digital_Lemon: Anywhere you prefer, just make sure it gets processed on user login
[10:53] <chroot> i want  learn the Linux operating system, such as kernel, but ubuntu restrict people to do that.
[10:54] <theadmin> chroot: Oh do they? I guess you are correct, but if you don't like Ubuntu, why not switch?
[10:54] <chroot> this is the poblem
[10:55] <DragonSlay> why isn't truecrpt not added to package manger?
[10:55] <chroot> i dont know Arch is better than other
[10:55] <theadmin> DragonSlay: The license forbids it
[10:55] <chroot> theadmin, can you tell me what the advantages Arch have than other Linux ditro?
[10:56] <theadmin> chroot: Heh well, this channel is for Ubuntu support only. If you want to continue this discussion, you're gonna have to PM me
[10:56] <chroot> haha, yes, this is it1
[10:56] <chroot> i will google.
[10:56] <chroot> thanks anyway1
[10:58] <DragonSlay> theadmin: so thats not gpl then, but still open source
[10:58] <DragonSlay> what
[10:58] <theadmin> DragonSlay: Yeah I think they have some weird license of their own. The thing is, the only valid way of distributing TrueCrypt is via their website. That's for security reasons, since outdated versions might have critical bugs and such
[10:59] <DragonSlay> what's that line saying theadmin theborger,,,,,, ?
[11:00] <DragonSlay> did you post that theadmin?
[11:01] <quietone> I've submitted a bug report but it doesn't show up in the 'new' list. Is that normal?
[11:01] <iceroot> DragonSlay: theadmin its not added to the repos because of legal issues in some countries (imo)
[11:01] <Andy80> Hi
[11:01] <theadmin> iceroot: Ah
[11:01] <alejandro> fstab option, btrfs defaults, noatime, discard,ssd, right?
[11:02] <mudkip> irc.iz-smart.net
[11:04] <rrs> Any pbuilder experts that can help me with this problem: http://pastebin.com/vJPjGK2V ???
[11:04] <Guekko> asas
[11:07] <theadmin> rrs: We don't support Debian.
[11:07] <rrs> theadmin: This is on Ubuntu 12.04
[11:08] <theadmin> rrs: orly? Then why is your apt-get connecting to ftp.debian.org and seeks packages in sid/main?
[11:08] <theadmin> rrs: Actually, Ubuntu 12.04 is not supported here either... You need to go to #ubuntu+1 for that.
[11:08] <rrs> Okay!! Thanks.
[11:09] <biopyte> hi, this is rather unusal: is there a trick or ubuntu package that rotates output on a xterm? so,  instead from left to right, output is from bottom to top.
[11:10] <bonhoeffer> how do i get restart whatever ssh-add belongs to
[11:10] <bonhoeffer> i can't remove a key . . .
[11:13] <bonhoeffer> i guess it is openssh
[11:13] <bonhoeffer> that i need to restart
[11:14] <biopyte> or ... is there a way to rotate a single window, but not the whole screen?
[11:15] <digitalcrow> hello i need help !
[11:15] <quietone> theadmin, thanks for your assistance
[11:15] <digitalcrow> Help , ubuntu 11.10 64bit , I can't shutdown or restart my pc anymore !
[11:16] <houdini_> Hello, can someone help me connect from a ubuntu machine to a freenas share folder?
[11:16] <Promille> digitalcrow: can you be more specific? any error messages?
[11:17] <houdini_> I am using a ubuntu machine and i want to access files on another machine on my network. I can not see the machine in Places. How do I set it up so that the files on the other machine are accessable
[11:20] <Promille> houdini_: I assume the other pcs are window pc's?
[11:21] <Promille> !samba | houdini_
[11:21] <houdini_> No it is FreeNas server. I can access the folder I want from other windows machines. I am trying to do the same from my ubuntu machine.
[11:21] <Promille> houdini_: ah ok, sorry.
[11:22] <digitalcrow> Help , ubuntu 11.10 64bit , I can't shutdown or restart my pc anymore !
[11:22] <vooze> digitalcrow: sudo reboot?
[11:22] <digitalcrow> nothing works
[11:23] <digitalcrow> i just tried to pass reboot=bios setting to grub
[11:23] <Promille> houdini_: Maby this will help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1682767 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=280473
[11:23] <digitalcrow> do you know what is going on?
[11:26] <Promille> digitalcrow: open a terminal(alt+f2 + gnome-terminal) -> write sudo shutdown "now"
[11:26] <Promille> digitalcrow: what happens then?
[11:26] <Promille> digitalcrow: or sudo shutdown -r "now" ...
[11:28] <Promille> guess it worked..
[11:29] <digitalcrow> from terminal only
[11:29] <VividRealityWork> Is it possible to use Kernel 2.6 drivers in Kernel 3.0?
[11:30] <ye> hi
[11:30] <digitalcrow> i dont know whats going on
[11:31] <digitalcrow> can't shutdown my pc
[11:31] <digitalcrow> or restart from the menu or lightdm
[11:31] <Promille> digitalcrow: error messages?
[11:31] <Promille> digitalcrow: and it did work from terminal?
[11:32] <digitalcrow> it doesn't shutdown at all
[11:32] <digitalcrow> it can reboot from terminal
[11:32] <Stanley00> digitalcrow: me too, cant shutdown the graphical way, I just can only use command line
[11:33] <digitalcrow> i was able to shutdown and reboot from graphical environment
[11:33] <digitalcrow> for a long time
[11:33] <Promille> digitalcrow: Stanley00 : What happens when you try then? Be as specific as possible. "It doesnt work" dont give guys alot to work with :)
[11:33] <houdini_> It was Nautilus that I needed to install. All ok now. Thank you
[11:33] <Stanley00> Promille: I dont know, it shows nothing :(
[11:33] <digitalcrow> from graphical environment it brings the lightdm screen and thats all
[11:34] <digitalcrow> from terminal its seems like it shutting down but then stucks
[11:34] <Stanley00> Promille: but you can ignore me, i'm using 12.04, just help digitalcrow ;)
[11:34] <Promille> digitalcrow: So you were not able to successfully restart from the terminal either?
[11:34] <Promille> digitalcrow: If so, any error messages from terminal?
[11:35] <digitalcrow> i can restart the pc form terminal
[11:36] <digitalcrow> now
[11:36] <Promille> digitalcrow: I suggest you make a thread about it at examply ubuntuforums.org, and include as much details at possible, but from the GUI-way and sudo shutdown -r "now" from terminal
[11:37] <Promille> digitalcrow: Ok. It may be a bug with the GUI-way, or not all the killsignals are sent, so the OS waits till it gets all "OKs". Make a forum thread
[11:40] <frybye> hi - hwinfo is showing 2.7gb Memory while afaik I have 3gb installed.. does it no show memory shared with grafics or something?
[11:41] <Culiforge> Is it possible to copy installed programs from on install to another with rsync? Both installs are on the same system with the same 10.04. I've already rsync'd the home directory. Or is there a better way to accomplish this?
[11:41] <gartral> frybye: you're coorect to a point, the system will reserve a chunk of memory at start for various things..
[11:41] <frybye> gartral - and that reserved memory is now shown in the hwinfo report?
[11:41] <jrib> Culiforge: just use apt on the other system to install what you want.  Or do you want to install all the same programs you've already installed on one system?
[11:42] <gartral> frybye: It might not be, as hwinfo only reports what's accessable in userspace.
[11:42] <Culiforge> jrib: the latter, I'm merely cloning a user and looking for ease of doing so
[11:42] <frybye> e e e sorry now - was a typo was meant to be -not- ok then we are on the same page.. ;=)
[11:42] <jrib> !clone | Culiforge
[11:44] <gartral> jrib: I have a challenge for. If I want too remove all -dev packages from a system, what regex string would i use? *\-dev isn't doing it..
[11:45] <Culiforge> jrib: would that command be used on the source install or the destination install?
[11:45] <llutz> gartral: aptitude remove '~n-dev' ;)
[11:45] <jrib> Culiforge: there's a command you use to generate the list (on the source) and a command to install the list (on the target)
[11:45] <sweb> any ppa for last stable version of mysql ?
[11:46] <jrib> gartral: .* for regex
[11:46] <Culiforge> jrib: right, there in lies the problem... the source install is not bootable
[11:46] <jrib> Culiforge: why?
[11:47] <overclucker> Is it even safe to remove all -dev packages?
[11:47] <orated_> Hello! What does hdXy and sdXy represent? How does installer name it and on what basis?
[11:47] <Culiforge> jrib: installed an nvidia 8400gs and during the reboot to activate driver it borked something and made that install unbootable.. anything I've tried (searching forums, advice here, etc has been a dead end)
[11:47] <Stanley00> orated_: hd is for IDE hard disk, and sd is for hard disk with SCSI, I think
[11:48] <jrib> Culiforge: you can't get to recovery mode using the grub menu?
[11:48] <Culiforge> jrib: nope, no command line joy at all
[11:48] <gartral> jrib: AH.. ok thank you, now i know exactly how much space my dev packages are taking up.. 500 mb
[11:48] <jrib> Culiforge: what happens exactly when you select rocevory mode?
[11:49] <Culiforge> jrib: same as with normal.. I get the "big ugly bootsplash" and it hangs with a "please wait, loading..." message
[11:49] <jrib> Culiforge: boot a live cd and chroot to the install then
[11:50] <orated_> Ok thanks Stanley00
[11:50] <Culiforge> jrib: I think i'm a bit green for that unless you're willing to help :)
[11:50] <Stanley00> orated_: you are welcome ;)
[11:50] <jrib> !chroot | Culiforge
[11:51] <jrib> Culiforge: you're able to boot a live cd?
[11:51] <Culiforge> jrib: yes, I am
[11:51] <Kartagis> hi. my sound applet has disappeared. help me?
[11:51] <jrib> Culiforge: once you boot the live cd, just open a shell and type: sudo chroot /path/to/where/your/install/root/is/mounted
[11:52] <ryankey> Kartagis, 11.10?
[11:52] <Culiforge> jrib: what would be a general example of what "/path/to/where/your/install/root/is/mounted" looks like... name-wise
[11:53] <jrib> Culiforge: /media/whatever
[11:53] <BigWill> comment aller sur le tchat français ?
[11:53] <Kartagis> ryankey: yes
[11:53] <jrib> !fr | BigWill
[11:53] <overclucker> aptitude search '~i~M-dev' show there being a more than a few automaaticall installed -dev packages
[11:53] <Culiforge> jrib: ah, so the mount point of the live media? or deeper
[11:54] <jrib> Culiforge: the mount point of your install
[11:54] <jrib> Culiforge: where your / for the install is mounted when you boot up the live cd
[11:54] <bytesofbinary> how do I edit the boot menu in ubuntu? Can anyone tell me which file I need to edit?
[11:54] <jrib> !grub | bytesofbinary
[11:54] <Culiforge> jrib: ok, great.. I'll run with that.. and be back when I get lost :)
[11:55] <Culiforge> jrib: thank you
[11:56] <qwertz1111> my ubuntu sits at 100% cpu load and warms!
[11:57] <ryankey> Kartagis, did you do anything before it disappeared?
[11:59] <Kartagis> ryankey: if I remember correctly, my sound had gone too and I changed hardware options in the sound properties to get it back
[12:00] <varun06> I have installed marlin file explorer, it is not working, I am getting error for libunity.so.6
[12:00] <bs> what is the best mp4 player
[12:00] <bs> mp3*
[12:00] <ryankey> Hmmm... if it's just the unity panel messing up, you can try reinstalling indicator-sound using apt-get (purge and then install), then killall unity-panel-service
[12:00] <r3d0ctob3r> bs banshee is good
[12:00] <namoamitabuddha> Is there anyone know why when I first start up my PC, the network cannot be used.
[12:01] <bs> r3d0ctob3r, i dont like it
[12:01] <r3d0ctob3r> namoamitabuddha what's going on when you type "ifconfig" ?
[12:01] <vto> Hello, how can i make a image of a running ubuntu (using lvm2) that could be use to be executed in a virtual machine software like vmware?
[12:01] <namoamitabuddha> r3d0ctob3r: The network is connected, but I cannot browse the internet.
[12:02] <r3d0ctob3r> ping google.fr ?
[12:02] <dragonballz> ciao a tutti
[12:02] <dragonballz> !list
[12:03] <gartral> argh
[12:03] <r3d0ctob3r> bs >> do you want a iTunes like ?
[12:03] <namoamitabuddha> r3d0ctob3r: cannot. the problem happens only I first startup the computer. the problem might be solved after rebooting.
[12:03] <qwertz1111> is thwew  A WAy to reduce memiru cconsumption on Ubunru??
[12:03] <gartral> I'm beginning too think that the devs that sign up for the humble bundle don't test games at all
[12:03] <gartral> qwertz1111: ouch...
[12:03] <r3d0ctob3r> It's strange. How often it happen ? Every day ?
[12:05] <bs> r3d0ctob3r, i want some thing lite like winamp or something like that
[12:05] <namoamitabuddha> r3d0ctob3r: I don't know exactly. But It often happens. And it might also happen after resuming from suspend (I seldom suspend the pc, but it happened once).
[12:05] <gartral> bs: what? you want something like winamp? like the milkdrop visuals?
[12:06] <bs> r3d0ctob3r, yes
[12:07] <r3d0ctob3r> ok bs
[12:07] <r3d0ctob3r> french website, but you'll recognize ;)
[12:07] <r3d0ctob3r> http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/lecteur_audio#les_winamp-like_vieux_winamp
[12:08] <bs> r3d0ctob3r, by the way do you have any clue how to run paltalk 10 on ubuntu 11.10
[12:08] <r3d0ctob3r> The first sentence says that "these sofware seems to be like the old-winamp. They are supposed to listen to musics, not to manage your music like you do on itunes
[12:09] <r3d0ctob3r> bs i dont know this software, did you ask google ?
[12:09] <namoamitabuddha> Francias
[12:09] <bs> r3d0ctob3r, yes but it talk about old versions
[12:09] <r3d0ctob3r> I dont know how is the current version of winamp
[12:10] <r3d0ctob3r> else, maybe you can try Amarok ? sudo apt-get install amarok
[12:10] <qwertz1111> how to reduce memory consumption in ubuntu?
[12:10] <qwertz1111> how ro hold a pckage in ubuntu?
[12:10] <namoamitabuddha> qwertz1111: aptitude hold
[12:10] <r3d0ctob3r> namomitabuddha yes i am. I dunno why it happens. Are you link with your modem/livebox by ethernet or wifi ?
[12:11] <zykotick9> bs: audacious is like winamp
[12:11] <dr_willis> !pin
[12:11] <Culiforge> jrib: one more thing before I plunge into the darkness, once I chroot to the install media.. what's my course of action?
[12:11] <bs> zykotick9, ok thanks
[12:11] <r3d0ctob3r> Next time it happens, try "dhclient", it allows your computer to ask your livebox to get an IP (192.168.0.*)
[12:11] <qwertz1111> i hae no PTUTUDE
[12:11] <namoamitabuddha> r3d0ctob3r: wifi
[12:12] <namoamitabuddha> r3d0ctob3r: wicd is a frontend of dhcpcd or dhclient.
[12:12] <qwertz1111> how to hold package manually?
[12:13] <r3d0ctob3r> Did you ever try wicd ?
[12:13] <namoamitabuddha> r3d0ctob3r: It is stranger that when I reconnect the links by wicd, it can work for some seconds but eventually it cannot work.
[12:13] <mongy> anyone good with openvpn?  I have it installed and setup, iptables setup for forwarding etc, it connects, gets an ip, can ping vpn server, can ping 8.8.8.8 and www.google.com but cant get firefox to load up any page.
[12:13] <qwertz1111> how to hold package manually?
[12:14] <namoamitabuddha> qwertz1111: Read Debian-Reference
[12:14] <qwertz1111> read what?
[12:14] <theadmin> qwertz1111: echo "packagename hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections
[12:14] <r3d0ctob3r> I suppose when you suspended ya PC the start it, your PC doesnt launch some services used for wifi
[12:14] <zykotick9> !pin | qwertz1111
[12:15] <namoamitabuddha> qwertz1111: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html
[12:16] <gothikon85> hi guys
[12:16] <qwertz1111> oh lol it worked
[12:17] <gothikon85> I need a hint please about a mounted drive that is reported as full....but it isn't ... I'm using that drive as a destination for automated backups in a network
[12:17] <gothikon85> did anyone had this issue before ?
[12:18] <bs> thunderbird download the whole message from my hotmail and that take long time how can i configure it to just download the message i want to open..and why it make my old messages as unread
[12:18] <gothikon85> df shows 100% used disk space.... how can it be.... I've deleted a bunch of stuff from the drive, rebooted the server...and still disk full
[12:18] <qwertz1111> bs it's not c..pzilla support channel
[12:18] <zykotick9> gothikon85: check if the inodes or full "df -i"
[12:18] <namoamitabuddha> IMAP or POP3?
[12:18] <iceroot> gothikon85: trash?
[12:18] <iceroot> gothikon85: when deleting through a gui it goes into trash
[12:19] <namoamitabuddha> gothikon85: what filesystem?
[12:19] <qwertz1111> how to reduce ubuntu mmemory consumption
[12:19] <gothikon85> zykotick9: Hi, df -i reports 1% used inods on all present drives
[12:19] <bs> qwertz1111, what is the right channel
[12:19] <iceroot> qwertz1111: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[12:19] <gothikon85> iceroot: I'm not using X....only CLI....
[12:20] <namoamitabuddha> gothikon85: which filesystem?
[12:22] <gothikon85> namoamitabudha: guys... sorry about this.... I've just realise this isn't ubuntu....is cent os kernel 2.6.18 (I think 5.x)
[12:22] <gothikon85> I'll go on centos channel, sorry about this and thank you
[12:22] <dr_willis> gothikon85:  well the fundamentals should still apply.  ;)
[12:22] <theadmin> dr_willis: Doesn't mean we can support that OS here.
[12:22] <namoamitabuddha> gothikon85: Only ubuntu has the problem?
[12:22] <dr_willis> gothikon85:  use some find/script to deterine whats taking up all the space. I was about to google one for ya
[12:23] <arakno> hallo pple: how can i resize desktop grid for icons so that icons get placed on half screen..?
[12:24] <gothikon85> dr_willis: well should be the same concept...but also the channel policy .... you know.... + yes I did search the google....and got stucked....that's why I've installed pidging and enter the chan....
[12:24] <qwertz1111> i can run destop but it in several minutes dies at 100% cpu
[12:24] <dafox> sorry, got disconnected (poor wireless). Did I miss anyone's reply to my question about font rendering?
[12:24] <qwertz1111> how to fix it\
[12:24] <namoamitabuddha> qwertz1111: It might be a kernel bug.
[12:25] <gothikon85> hmm....centos channel .... can't send my text to channel..... I have to register.... pffff....this is a new one
[12:25] <qwertz1111> and ubuntu reaLLY sucks at multitasking
[12:25] <dr_willis> qwertz1111:  it multitasks just as good as any other disrto.
[12:25] <qwertz1111> when this happens i have to maake hard reset
[12:25] <qwertz1111> because no keys work at time
[12:25] <dr_willis> system crashing is a crashing system..
[12:25] <namoamitabuddha> qwertz1111: SysRq works
[12:25] <dr_willis> You could ssh in from another box and try to determine whats sucking down the system
[12:26] <qwertz1111> i don\t know how to press sysrq
[12:26] <namoamitabuddha> qwertz1111: Alt + PrtSc
[12:26] <dr_willis> !dontzap
[12:26] <Kartagis> ryankey: well? any word for me?
[12:26] <qwertz1111> alt+fn+del?
[12:26] <dr_willis> alt-ctrl-sysreq-SOMTHING can help get out of hung systems also.. but i forget the magic key combos
[12:27] <dr_willis> alt-ctrl-f# normally gets to the consoles.
[12:27] <qwertz1111> you mean alt-ctrl-fn-del?
[12:27] <namoamitabuddha> dr_willis: C-A-Backspace is normally canceled by the new version of Xorg.
[12:27] <dr_willis> qwertz1111:  never needed the del key..
[12:27] <bullgard4> [Ubuntu 11.10] Audacity: Clicking  Welcome at Audacity > How to Get Help > Quick Help does not produce any reaction. How to install »Quick Help« locally?
[12:27] <Kartagis> dr_willis: I lost my sound applet. can you help me get it back?
[12:27] <dr_willis> namoamitabuddha:  thats why i gave the url to reneable it. :)
[12:28] <qwertz1111> sysrq is a del key in fn shift state
[12:28] <arakno> i use transparency terminals all over, but i get icons on the view.. I want to limit the area of the desktop where icons are put
[12:28] <dr_willis> qwertz1111:  not on my keyboard..
[12:28] <ryankey> Kartagis, I said earlier that it might be a panel bug. It could help to reinstall the sound indicator using sudo apt-get purge indicator-sound and sudo apt-get install indicator-sound, then to killall unity-panel-service
[12:28] <namoamitabuddha> dr_willis: SysRq works.
[12:28] <dr_willis> Kartagis:  is sound working?
[12:28] <namoamitabuddha> dr_willis: OOM Killer.
[12:28] <theadmin> Alt-SysRQ-K can normally be used to restart X
[12:29] <qwertz1111> the most funny is when you switch consoles but cannot log in because of login timeout
[12:29] <dr_willis> I use the sysreq stuff so rarely i never can rember the Keys.
[12:29] <Kartagis> ryankey: sorry, I didn't see it, because the client didn't highlight me
[12:29] <namoamitabuddha> yes, saK can restart X
[12:29] <Kartagis> dr_willis: yes
[12:29] <namoamitabuddha> qwertz1111: I know.
[12:29] <dr_willis> Kartagis:  using unity? or gnome-shell?
[12:29] <dmtarmey> hello can anyone help me with an issue with virtual box im running xp on linux but the vbox isnt loaded xp it is stuck in welcome screen and flashing
[12:29] <namoamitabuddha> qwertz1111: I know what you mean.
[12:29] <theadmin> dr_willis: Just remember that raising skinny elephants is utterly boring
[12:30] <dr_willis> I tend to just ssh in and restart stuff ;)
[12:30] <dr_willis> android phone = ssh terminal in my pocket.
[12:30] <arakno> dmtarmey: how vbox isnt loaded?
[12:30] <Kartagis> dr_willis: unity I guess, oneiric here
[12:30] <namoamitabuddha> qwertz1111: I don't accurately know the problem but I know that there's a memory-management bug in kernel for a long time.
[12:30] <theadmin> dr_willis: Heh I know what you mean, that doesn't always work though
[12:30] <namoamitabuddha> qwertz1111: SysRq + f works.
[12:30] <dmtarmey> the load up screen with vbox on but dosnt load windows its just flashing
[12:31] <arakno> dmtarmey: try installing ubuntu in virtualbox
[12:31] <namoamitabuddha> qwertz1111: First, check: cat /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq
[12:32] <Kartagis> heh, it's back thanks ryankey. apparently indicator-sound had been purged before somehow
[12:32] <arakno> dmtarmey: if everything works, its windowsrelated
[12:32] <dr_willis> Kartagis:  magic. :)
[12:32] <dmtarmey> it was working fine until i installed wireless driver and shut down windows but then windows crashed so i had to shut it down
[12:32] <ryankey> Kartagis, Oops. That'll do it. You're welcome
[12:32] <dr_willis> you innstalled a wireless driver on XP in vbox?
[12:33] <arakno> dmtarmey: this is ubuntu, at virtualbox they'll sure be more specific
[12:33] <dmtarmey> there is no one at virtualbox
[12:33] <qwertz1111> it's "1"
[12:33] <arakno> dmtarmey: sure?.. i found quite some folks there..
[12:34] <dmtarmey> ok ill try there again
[12:34] <namoamitabuddha> qwertz1111: When your system froze, try Alt + PrtSc + f. It kills the process which is out of memory.
[12:35] <namoamitabuddha> qwertz1111: It is called "OOM-Killer"
[12:37] <dr_willis> getting where i see a lot of keyboards make it hard to actually use the  Sysreq/Print Screen key. Just noticed this one dosent even say 'sysreq' on it.
[12:38] <dr_willis> gotta use fn-home to even use Print Screen.
[12:38] <qwertz1111> fn-insert here
[12:39] <bullgard4> [Ubuntu 11.10] Audacity: Clicking  Welcome at Audacity > How to Get Help > Quick Help does not produce any reaction. How to install »Quick Help« locally?
[12:39] <dr_willis> so i think id have to do alt-ctrl-fn-stand-on-myhead-printscreen :)
[12:41] <LigH> Greetings.
[12:41] <_Ethan_> uep!
[12:42] <_Ethan_> Does it worth to install ubuntu 64 bit for a 2.4Ghz quad (i think q6600)
[12:42] <bullgard4> _Ethan_: Yes.
[12:42] <_Ethan_> i´d like to know, in general terms, differences in performance.
[12:42] <dafox> does ubuntu still use the file /etc/fonts/local.conf? It seems to be ignored, and it's not included by e.g. /etc/fonts/fonts.conf ?
[12:42] <auronandace> _Ethan_: if you can install 64bit, it's almost always best to install 64bit
[12:43] <_Ethan_> auronandace i´d like to bencharmk it, any command or programm?
[12:43] <namoamitabuddha> dafox: don't use.
[12:43] <LigH> I don't get weather and temperature values for my location I set up in the scheduler in Gnome Classic. Is my location too far away from the next supported location, regarding its coordinates?
[12:43] <auronandace> _Ethan_: sorry, iv'e never run any benchmarks
[12:43] <_Ethan_> and, is it possible to install ubuntu 64 "over" ubuntu 32, to not to do more partitions
[12:44] <theadmin> _Ethan_: No, it's not
[12:44] <_Ethan_> oh :
[12:44] <_Ethan_> (
[12:44] <theadmin> _Ethan_: That is, you have to reinstall.
[12:44] <theadmin> _Ethan_: You can't "upgrade" to 64-bit or something
[12:44] <dafox> namoamitabuddha: why not, and what is the recommended way to enable the lcflegacy filter for freetype/fontconfig?
[12:44] <_Ethan_> yes, that's what i mean, but would be my programms conserved?
[12:44] <_Ethan_> ok
[12:44] <namoamitabuddha> dafox: If local, create $HOME/.fonts.conf
[12:44] <_Ethan_> i didnt read "cant" xD
[12:44] <zykotick9> _Ethan_: using 64bit or 32bit depends more on the ammount of memory you have then anything else, if you have 4GB or more, use 64bit (i actually use 64bit whenever CPU supports, but on my EEE with 1GB RAM it's foolish really)
[12:45] <dafox> namoamitabuddha: system wide please
[12:45] <_Ethan_> i have 4 gb yes
[12:45] <namoamitabuddha> dafox: If global, write a new file in /etc/fonts/conf.d/
[12:45] <dafox> namoamitabuddha: and if I put it in .fonts.conf, it should have the same effect as local.conf in terms of priority
[12:45] <_Ethan_> zykotick9 what is your EEE ?
[12:45] <varun06> I have installed Marlin, can I remove nautilus?
[12:46] <namoamitabuddha> dafox: see /etc/fonts/conf.d/README
[12:46] <zykotick9> _Ethan_: Asus EEEpc Netbook
[12:46] <_Ethan_> ok
[12:46] <killown> I can't install unity 5.2, I have unity-team ppa here and I did apt-get update, but when I try dist-upgrade it throws the old one unity_4.28.0-0ubuntu2_i386.deb, do anyone  why I cant install unity 5.2?
[12:46] <_Ethan_> also i am considering to buy a laptop
[12:46] <_Ethan_> to have ubuntu and windows installed
[12:47] <_Ethan_> maybe asus is a good choice, i saw not very expensive models...
[12:47] <varun06> can I remove nautilus
[12:47] <bs> how can i mount iso file?
[12:47] <namoamitabuddha> bs: mount -o loop
[12:47] <zykotick9> !iso | bs
[12:47] <auronandace> _Ethan_: thinkpads are awesome but stay away from hybrid graphics
[12:47] <namoamitabuddha> !help
[12:49] <dafox> namoamitabuddha: changes should take effect for newly launched applications, right? I've added a 'ln -s ../local.conf 99-enforce-local.conf' to the conf.d directory, but it is still not rendering text the way I want. I've taken the local.conf of my other laptop (gentoo) which is working btw.
[12:49] <varun06> can I remove nautilus without any side effects on Ubuntu 11.10
[12:49] <LigH> Is there a map of supported weather locations available (for Europe, Germany)?
[12:50] <Sirijus> hello
[12:50] <killown> I need know how install unity 5.2 on oneric
[12:50] <auronandace> varun06: it will likely break unity or gnome
[12:50] <Sirijus> is there any irc client that supports tcl besides xchat?
[12:50] <varun06> ohhkkk
[12:50] <auronandace> killown: ppas aren't supported here, contact the ppa author
[12:51] <_Ethan_> btw, i am reading that sometimes upgrading to 64 only allows managmente of bigger variables
[12:51] <_Ethan_> (in the case o matlab)
[12:51] <_Ethan_> and not an increase in the speed.
[12:51] <_Ethan_> *increment
[12:51] <bs> i got this error when i try to mount No such file or directory
[12:52] <bs> this is what i wrote pzilla
[12:52] <bs> sudo mount -o loop addonia-xplane10a media/EC2C32162C31DC70
[12:52] <qwertz1111> how to s
[12:52] <auronandace> _Ethan_: essentially the only reason to not use 64bit on a 64bit processor is if you absolutely need compatibility with 32bit (not many apps are like that)
[12:52] <qwertz1111> *use scrollbars in ubuntu?
[12:52] <qwertz1111> wrong
[12:52] <qwertz1111> most of 64bit software is terribly buggy
[12:53] <theadmin> qwertz1111: lolwut? When are you from, 2000?
[12:53] <theadmin> qwertz1111: If you have no idea what you're talking about, don't.
[12:53] <qwertz1111> i have 64bit
[12:53] <stefano__> i have problem to install dwl-2100ap (access point d-link)
[12:53] <qwertz1111> i have 32 too and can compare
[12:53] <auronandace> qwertz1111: i've used 64bit for years, hardly buggy in my experience
[12:54] <bs> zykotick9, i got this error No such file or directory
[12:54] <auronandace> qwertz1111: theres almost no difference
[12:54] <_Ethan_> auronandace yes
[12:54] <_Ethan_> do you have 64 bits installed?
[12:54] <auronandace> _Ethan_: yes
[12:55] <qwertz1111> how to put scrollbars back to have thickness and arroes?
[12:55] <mintman> found it based on debian zorin os is a look alike for linux to windows..
[12:55] <MystKid> hello guys i jsut updated to ubuntu 10.0 build1 and its crashing. how can i downgrade it
[12:55] <zykotick9> bs: there are several issues with the command you tried...  someone else can help you.  Good luck.
[12:55] <auronandace> MystKid: what do you mean by "ubuntu 10.0 build1"
[12:56] <nirjhor> using 11.10 32 bit on an asus k40IJ laptop, my screen brightness is not working with fn keys
[12:56] <MystKid> firwfox i ment sorry
[12:56] <MystKid> firefox 10.0 build 1
[12:56] <MystKid> is crashing
[12:56] <nirjhor> and there is no xorg.conf file on /etc/X11/
[12:56] <dr_willis> i can honestly say - ive rarely had any issues that were 64bit related..
[12:56] <auronandace> !ppa | MystKid
[12:57] <LjL> qwertz1111: bunch of howtos say you need to "export LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0" inside /etc/X11/Xsession.d/80overlayscrollbars
[12:57] <MystKid> i cant risk
[12:57] <dr_willis> qwertz1111:  the webupd8 blog site has a unity tweaking guide that tells how to go back to the old scrollbar way
[12:57] <_Ethan_> which laptop would you recommend ? im thinking about a budget of no more than 700 euros
[12:57] <auronandace> !ppa-purge | MystKid
[12:57] <photon> hi. does Ubuntu already support 3D video files?
[12:57] <icarious> Windows is better than Ubuntu
[12:57] <LjL> !ot | icarious
[12:57] <nirjhor> somebody give me a tips on what to do
[12:57] <mintman> icarious: lol why?
[12:57] <dr_willis> _Ethan_:  check out the various laptop review sites. id suggest avoiding one that has that fancy 'dual gpu' stuff. or that just came out this month.
[12:58] <auronandace> _Ethan_: thinkpads are awesome
[12:58] <icarious> no.. it should support windows related questions. as it is a noob friendly distro anyways
[12:58] <zykotick9> nirjhor: on my Asus EEE, i have to add acpi_osi=Linux to my kernel line to get brightness working
[12:58] <qwertz1111> what file again?
[12:58] <dmtarmey> hi does anyone know if ubuntu has a system for rolling backs changes you make that damage the system link suse has
[12:58] <auronandace> icarious: go troll elsewhere
[12:58] <LjL> icarious: but it doesn't. so please keep it about Ubuntu.
[12:58] <icarious> mintman: windows respects the EULA.. i love proprietary software
[12:58] <nirjhor> zykotick9: how did you do that?
[12:58] <dr_willis> dmtarmey:  changes 'you' make as in what cahnges?
[12:59] <qwertz1111> to change setting in which file?
[12:59] <dmtarmey> any changes like windows has and suse has a system to
[12:59] <zykotick9> nirjhor: try adapting the nomodeset instructions with the acpi_osi=Linux instead
[12:59] <mintman> icarious: what windows based question do u have... It costs money linux is free. tell me again why windows is better. ???
[12:59] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | nirjhor
[12:59] <_Ethan_> auronandace i havent heard about them
[12:59] <dr_willis> dmtarmey:  theres no 'restore point' system that ive ever noticed.
[12:59] <LjL> mintman: he's gone. please keep this channel on-topic, discussing whether Windows or Ubuntu is better is not.
[12:59] <can-o-worms> hey guys, can someone please tell me why nmap would say this -> 6000/tcp open  X11     (access denied), when i know it needs to say this -> 6000/tcp open  X11     X.Org (open)
[12:59] <mintman> LjL: ok
[12:59] <auronandace> _Ethan_: read some reviews
[13:00] <dmtarmey> ok cheers
[13:00] <auronandace> _Ethan_: i have a t61 and a t510, works like a dream
[13:00] <qwertz1111> mintman: because windows doesn't lock up after 15 minutes of GUI work
[13:00] <_Ethan_> yes, i am reading right now :)
[13:00] <auronandace> _Ethan_: even my old t40 is still running (my only 32bit machine left)
[13:00] <mintman> qwertz1111: what? sure ur using ubuntu?
[13:00] <_Ethan_> but they are not common in shops
[13:00] <_Ethan_> you know, i have a toshiba 8086 from 1985
[13:01] <_Ethan_> laptop
[13:01] <_Ethan_> from my father
[13:01] <_Ethan_> incredible!
[13:01] <FloodBot1> _Ethan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:01] <qwertz1111> mintman: you may read channel log for details
[13:01] <auronandace> _Ethan_: i've bought all my thinkpads from ebay, secondhand
[13:02] <mintman> qwertz1111: look just got here. been using linux since 1994 never had gui lock up on me or even linux crash without me expermenting.
[13:02] <qwertz1111> can someone post the method of changing scrollbars again?
[13:02] <dr_willis> auronandace:  you like that red joy-mouse thing they have? :) i never could get the feel for them
[13:02] <LjL> qwertz1111: bunch of howtos say you need to "export LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0" inside /etc/X11/Xsession.d/80overlayscrollbars
[13:03] <mintman> qwertz1111: are u using unity?
[13:03] <dr_willis> qwertz1111:   the webupd8 blog site has a extensive page on unity tweaks that cover that tip LjL  posted. You can disable it for just one app via that method i belive. System wide theres that way, or other ways to do it.
[13:03] <auronandace> dr_willis: i've always used a usb mouse with them (essentially use thinkpads as desktop replacements)
[13:03] <dr_willis> auronandace:  my last laptop weighed more then many desktops. :)
[13:04] <qwertz1111> dr_willis: check my irc client, the last thing i want to is browse internet
[13:04] <mintman> qwertz1111: Try linux mint 12 or cinnamon which is not supported by ubunut
[13:04] <mintman> ops ubuntu
[13:04] <gartral> mintman: what is ubunut? :P
[13:04]  * gartral is now hungry, bored, and tired
[13:05] <dInGd0nG> i want networkmanager 0.9 and modemmanager 0.5 to be backported to lucid.
[13:05] <mintman> u could try Zorin Os based on debian looks like windows to me
[13:05] <LjL> dInGd0nG: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports#Requesting_a_Backport
[13:06]  * qwertz1111 thinks that many distros diffent only in themes are crap
[13:06] <LjL> how about moving the alternative distros discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:06] <asdfss> i installed ubuntu but it doesn't work
[13:07] <auronandace> !doesntwork | asdfss
[13:07] <dr_willis> and i was about to mention Fluffy Linux with the Pink Theme! :)
[13:07] <mintman> qwertz1111: stop with hate that is not good ubuntu is a linux distro, maybe a bit to much for a first time windows user it has a learning curve.
[13:07] <asdfss> i installed it with wubi
[13:07] <dr_willis> asdfss:  installed a full install or wubi install?  what does it do exactly? grub menu? logon screen...
[13:08] <asdfss> and when i choose ubuntu it gives me a black screen
[13:08] <asdfss> i've got an acer aspire one
[13:08] <dr_willis> asdfss:  whats your video chipset? You may want to try out the nomodeset option.
[13:08] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | asdfss
[13:08] <FCR2012> Ubuntu ROCKS
[13:08] <asdfss> how do i install it with wubi
[13:09] <qwertz1111> why my consoles have VGA resolution?
[13:09] <FCR2012> Asdf
[13:09] <FCR2012> You are using windows seven ?
[13:09] <asdfss> yes
[13:09] <asdfss> currently typing from it
[13:09] <FCR2012> qwertz are you using vga cable ?
[13:09] <FCR2012> asdf search on google
[13:09] <LjL> dInGd0nG: i think not
[13:09] <dafox> ok, why is the /etc/fonts/ directory completely ignored? I've just replaced the whole directory with the /etc/fonts directory of my gentoo system, and still my fonts look like blurry crap
[13:10] <LjL> FCR2012: "search on google" is not useful help
[13:10] <FCR2012> "how to install linux in windows 7" search that
[13:10] <FCR2012> It will help you
[13:10] <asdfss> i searched
[13:10] <asdfss> it says cd
[13:10] <FCR2012> or listen to me :P
[13:10] <asdfss> usb
[13:10] <asdfss> wubi
[13:10] <Barbariandude> Hey guys. If I copy everything (root and upwards) to an external hard disk, then after wiping the disk/installing another OS/doing random stuff, could I put all that data back on the disk and do boot-repair to get it working again?
[13:10] <FCR2012> Asdf burn ubuntu image on cd
[13:10] <qwertz1111> wubi works until first update
[13:11] <FCR2012> Yup
[13:11] <asdfss> it's a netbook no cd possible
[13:11] <asdfss> acer aspire one
[13:11] <FCR2012> I didn’t  use wubi
[13:11] <dr_willis> Barbariandude:  it may take some effort.  and not just a simple 'drag/drop copy'
[13:11] <Barbariandude> asdfss, you can use USB though
[13:11] <FCR2012> i did make the Boot install
[13:11] <qwertz1111> how to change fullscreen console resoltion?
[13:11] <reCAPTCHA> Hey, I've got an issue. I keep getting a dependancy error, but as far as I know I have the package already installed. Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: ia32-libs (>= 20080808)
[13:11] <CharminTheMoose> Barbariandude, yes, you can. Just remember to re-install grub on the MBR.
[13:11] <dr_willis> Barbariandude:  you could image your current install, then restore it.
[13:11] <FCR2012> I make 4 gbs of swap
[13:11] <asdfss> i tried but the bios doesn't let me boot through usb
[13:12] <LjL> Barbariandude: more or less... but you should be careful how you copy stuff, like, avoid copying /sys and /proc. cp has an option to not cross filesystem boundaries.
[13:12] <FCR2012> and 27 gb of linux
[13:12] <Barbariandude> dr_willis, I'll look into imaging then, thanks
[13:12] <reCAPTCHA> Synaptic tells me I have ia32-libs installed already.
[13:12] <FCR2012> HOLY CRAP
[13:12] <CharminTheMoose> On a related note, does cp -a / work perfectly for copying (unmounted) systems?
[13:12] <qwertz1111> !lang
[13:12] <FCR2012> Asdf
[13:12] <FCR2012> how much mem of ram you have
[13:12] <LjL> dInGd0nG: you need to "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-dev-tools" and then run "requestbackports" from a terminal
[13:12] <asdfss> i have 1 gb
[13:13] <FCR2012> So
[13:13] <dafox> CharminTheMoose: depends, you lose permission and ownership
[13:13] <FCR2012> burn cd image asdf
[13:13] <LjL> CharminTheMoose: copying *unmounted* filesystems?
[13:13] <dafox> I think
[13:13] <FCR2012> boot with that cd
[13:13] <bullgard4> [Ubuntu 11.10] Audacity: Clicking  Welcome at Audacity > How to Get Help > Quick Help does not produce any reaction. How to install »Quick Help« locally?
[13:13] <asdfss> its a NETBOOK
[13:13] <CharminTheMoose> dafox, I thought cp -a kept perms and such?
[13:13] <asdfss> no cd port
[13:13] <FCR2012> and put 1 gb of swap
[13:13] <LjL> !enter
[13:13] <dafox> CharminTheMoose: yes, I think it does, I was too quick with anwering. sorry :)
[13:14] <CharminTheMoose> LjL, my bad. lets make that non-currently-/ systems. =)
[13:14] <FCR2012> I have to be a minut afk
[13:14] <dengyz> exit
[13:14] <zapbuzz> hello does ubuntu 11.10 have opengl built in?
[13:15] <FCR2012> yes i think
[13:15] <LjL> dInGd0nG: i'm afraid that's the only way at the moment
[13:15] <dr_willis> zapbuzz:  yes it should. also depends on your video chipset/driver if its actually used
[13:15] <FCR2012> i am not using ubuntu 2d
[13:15] <zapbuzz> its says unknown
[13:15] <zenon> hello, what is query and manipulate user account information accountservice up date for?
[13:15] <asdfss> could it be that there is no possible way to install ubuntu in acer aspire one?
[13:15] <FCR2012> I do have a great pc
[13:16] <LjL> asdfss: it is possible, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne
[13:16] <qwertz1111> how to change fullscreen console resoltion?
[13:16] <CharminTheMoose> asdfss, it is possible to boot from a USB stick
[13:16] <Ycarene> What's the name of the application that lets me set up my proprietary nvidia drivers?
[13:16] <FCR2012> that support Unity normally
[13:16] <LjL> Ycarene: yockey
[13:16] <LjL> Ycarene: jockey
[13:16] <FCR2012> My pc is a bit Awesome
[13:16] <Deckard_25_> hi, is there any way to set ondemand CPU governor for default? the performance one is being set automatically from some reason
[13:16] <FCR2012> ....
[13:17] <FCR2012> Intel i3 can support 64 bit ?
[13:17] <asdfss> LjL it says that D255 only can install 9.10
[13:17] <iceroot> FCR2012: yes
[13:17] <asdfss> 9.04*
[13:17] <FCR2012> @iceroot thanks
[13:17] <asdfss> how do i install 9.04 with wubi?
[13:17] <LjL> asdfss: i see, though i'm still tempted to believe it should work. have you already tried that "nomodeset" option?
[13:17] <FCR2012> i will do that next time i install linux
[13:18] <asdfss> yes i googled it before coming here and hasn't worked either
[13:18] <FCR2012> asdf
[13:18] <mintman> Deckard_25_: I'll bit haven'
[13:18] <FCR2012> asdf can install the 10.10 ver isn't guys ?
[13:19] <asdfss> i've got 2 computers more and i have been able to install ubuntu to them
[13:19] <kwtm2> Is there a deadline beyond which version upgrades to common software packages are no longer backported to LTS versions?  I'm trying to figure out how to get Vim 7.3 to the current LTS Ubuntu (current is Vim 7.2)
[13:20] <mintman> Deckard_25_: haven't seen a question on governing cpu since back in ubuntu 9.04.  Short answer is no and if you have limited resources use a lubuntu or crunchbang or bohdi or small damm linux or puppy linux.
[13:20] <FCR2012> Asdf
[13:20] <LjL> asdfss: are you really sure you can't boot from USB? it's possible you have to press F8 or something while the BIOS boots, in order to select the boot device. i'm saying this because i think a real installation is preferrable to Wubi.
[13:20] <zenon> ah ignorance is bliss =/
[13:20] <FCR2012> LjL yeah
[13:20] <FCR2012> I did that
[13:20] <Deckard_25_> mintman: it worked ok, but it must be some updates that broken this
[13:20] <asdfss> yes i went to advanced seetings in bios
[13:20] <FCR2012> but instead
[13:20] <asdfss> i choosed primary boot usb
[13:20] <asdfss> but doesn't work either
[13:20] <FCR2012> of usb i put a cd in primary
[13:20] <Deckard_25_> mintman: I can do: echo ondemand > .... and this works
[13:21] <LjL> kwtm2: normally, you don't get updates in the first place. only those for security fixes or fixes to serious bugs (until End Of Life). there is the "backports" repository, but it doesn't contain all packages, only those that people request.
[13:21] <asdfss> cannot choose cd
[13:21] <FCR2012> Windows don't
[13:21] <FCR2012> LjL you are kinda a Ubuntu genius to me
[13:21] <mintman> Deckard_25_:  aware of limiting cpu, u would have to do a script in order to run this every time.
[13:22] <zenon> hello, would I be more secure not installing query and manipulate user account information accountservice up date?
[13:22] <LjL> i've just used it for some years, there's many more things i don't know than ones i know about it, FCR2012
[13:22] <qwertz1111> how to change fullscreen console resoltion?
[13:22] <Deckard_25_> mintman: right, I'll probably do that
[13:22] <FCR2012> LjL i started using linux ubunto because of my brother
[13:22] <kwtm2> LjL: Thx for info.  Backports is something that is not installed by default, and that I would have to enable myself?  Could you point me to where I could find backports?  I'm sure someone has requested vim 7.3
[13:22] <Deckard_25_> mintman: thanks, bye
[13:22] <asdfss> could this be a problem of x.org or something?
[13:22] <mintman> good luck
[13:23] <FCR2012> My first ubuntu was 9.04
[13:23] <FCR2012> was simple and cool
[13:23] <FCR2012> with gnome
[13:24] <FCR2012> now is too way awesome
[13:24] <mintman> first ubuntu 8.10 I liked that version of ubuntu a lot
[13:24] <asdfss> it could be that the graphic card it is not capable of ubuntu possibly
[13:24] <asdfss> can i install lubuntu with wubi?
[13:24] <FCR2012> Mint i did used 8.10 (i think)
[13:24] <qwertz1111> asdfss: you could but lubunyu is near unuzable
[13:24] <LjL> asdfss: i don't know, but it's not like Lubuntu is different as far as graphics go, especially not if you get a blank screen *at boot*
[13:24] <FCR2012> Hey do anyone plays ROBLOX ?
[13:25] <zenon> USB multiplexor daemon for iphone and ipod touch device-libraries libaccountsservice, is that just for iphone and ipod?
[13:25] <mintman> 9.04 was trouble with sound, music and graphics for the first month
[13:25] <asdfss> it's a black screen
[13:25] <FCR2012> Who played Wolf 3d with a brother when was 6
[13:25] <FCR2012> i did
[13:25] <zenon> I have to troubleshoot my sound card
[13:25] <LjL> can we stay ontopic... please?
[13:25] <FCR2012> I am 10 years old next to 11
[13:26] <mintman> ok
[13:26] <FCR2012> i dont play much wolf 3d
[13:26] <qwertz1111> how to change fullscreen console resoltion? it's f-g VGA and ugly
[13:26] <FCR2012> i Play doom
[13:26] <FCR2012> In dosbox
[13:26] <asdfss> LjL why does a black scrren occur?
[13:26] <LjL> qwertz1111: i'm not sure, but maybe changing it for GRUB will change it for your console too - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Resolution_Settings
[13:26] <zenon> I played wolf & doom when I was that age ><
[13:27] <FCR2012> Doom is awesome
[13:27] <falkonz> HI. Is it safe to remove ~/.ecryptfs and ~/.Private?? I wan't to TURN OFF encryption of my home directory. Don't want to do any backup - JUST turn off encryption of my homedir... how?
[13:27] <LjL> asdfss: if i knew the answer to that, i'd probably know how to fix it too ;) i'm afraid i have no clue. i'm only saying that if you don't even see the boot logo or anything, then using Lubuntu instead of Ubuntu won't change things.
[13:27] <zenon> classic
[13:27] <FCR2012> doom 3 is not that good
[13:27] <asdfss> thanks for the help LjL
[13:28] <sharkmap> zenon: castle wolfenstein (the original)
[13:28] <asdfss> could another distro work?
[13:28] <FCR2012> much graphics instead of game play doom 3 has
[13:28] <LjL> FCR2012 and everyone: please, can you discuss games and other non-Ubuntu-support things in #ubuntu-offtopic? this channel needs to stay about support :)
[13:28] <zenon> I know I played it
[13:28] <FCR2012> k
[13:28] <zenon> so many doors lol
[13:28] <asdfss> does BSD have some sort of wubi alternative?
[13:28] <qwertz1111> and how can i watch commnity site from irssi?
[13:28] <FCR2012> I will be off
[13:28] <mintman> qwertz1111:  Look u may want to weight month or so see if they have worked out all the bugs with ur graphics driver. Also look on ubuntu forums to see if there is a solution if not post a comment about ur graphics card not working
[13:28] <falkonz> HI. Is it safe to remove ~/.ecryptfs and ~/.Private?? I wan't to TURN OFF encryption of my home directory. Don't want to do any backup - JUST turn off encryption of my homedir... how?
[13:28] <zenon> duke nukem was class too!
[13:29] <tjiggi_fo> asdfss, BSD does not
[13:29] <qwertz1111> mintman: that 'community' doesn't scratch their backsides about my graphics card more than 3 years that such topic exist
[13:29] <qwertz1111> *for
[13:29] <LjL> falkonz: that way it sounds like you'd lose all your encrypted data. but i don't know whether that's the appropriate way, even if that's what you want to do.
[13:29] <zenon> sierra's space quest
[13:29] <iceroot> falkonz: ~/.Private is your encrypted home, dont remove that
[13:29] <zenon> I loved that
[13:30] <qwertz1111> i don't know, does ubuntu uses framebuffered consoles?
[13:30] <sharkmap> my first video game: pong
[13:30] <tjiggi_fo> asdfss, you could try slitaz or puppy linux
[13:30] <qwertz1111> i don't know how to tell if I in native or framebuffer mode
[13:30] <falkonz> iceroot: The problem is that I don't have so much space left on my disk to make cp -r /home/user /home/user.backup
[13:31] <mintman> sharkmap: wow, that was atari 2600.
[13:31] <falkonz> iceroot: and I _just_ would like to disable ecryptfs for this user
[13:31] <iceroot> falkonz: why?
[13:31] <zenon> I remember a cool at the time robocop3 3d game on amiga or commodore
[13:32] <falkonz> iceroot: because this p**** of s*** in my dmesg: http://pastebin.com/YTPq2a8Q
[13:32] <falkonz> ecryptfs is bugged as hell
[13:32] <falkonz> and NOT stable
[13:32] <falkonz> have issues in 11.10 and 10.04 LTS
[13:32] <zenon> pong lol I can't even remember what it was
[13:33] <zenon> digdug
[13:33] <Myrtti> falkonz: even with the asterisks we do know what you said, please mind your language.
[13:33] <iceroot> falkonz: what is not stable about that? crashing?
[13:33] <LjL> look, seriously, take the games discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic please, this channel is just for support
[13:33] <qwertz1111> how to tell f I'm in FRAMEBUFFER or NA>TIVE mode?
[13:34] <asdfss> tried slitaz and puppy linux
[13:34] <iceroot> qwertz1111: ubuntu is using framebuffer on tty per default
[13:34] <andrea86> ciao
[13:34] <falkonz> iceroot: in one of my oneiric installations I've lost all my data on /home because of ecryptfs
[13:34] <iceroot> falkonz: you filled a bug?
[13:34] <falkonz> I've reviewed launchpad
[13:34] <falkonz> this bug was known
[13:34] <iceroot> falkonz: you know the reason why all data are lost?
[13:34] <qwertz1111> ok so how setup resolution of frame buffer?
[13:35] <iceroot> falkonz: can you show me the bug?
[13:35] <falkonz> i just don't remember it right now
[13:35] <falkonz> but you see what I have in dmesg?
[13:35] <iceroot> qwertz1111: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[13:35] <falkonz> and I can't get any fix for that
[13:35] <falkonz> this just sucks
[13:36] <wildc4rd> Good day all, why might I get this error message when trying to update? W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/team-xbmc/ppa/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[13:36] <wildc4rd> , W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/team-xbmc/ppa/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[13:36] <wildc4rd> , E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[13:36] <dr_willis> !find fbset
[13:36] <dr_willis> !info fbset
[13:36] <iceroot> falkonz: maybe this will work (backup is a good idea). make a hardlink from your mounted home to some new dir and remove the old (encrypted) home
[13:36] <qwertz1111> i caanot open weblinks from irsssi, have some consideratio please?
[13:37] <LjL> wildc4rd: that PPA doesn't exist for Oneiric
[13:37] <iceroot> wildc4rd: there is no xmbc package for 11.10 in that ppa
[13:37] <dr_willis> qwertz1111:   You using weechat in X or the console?
[13:37] <falkonz> iceroot: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/490005/comments/23
[13:37] <qwertz1111> irssi in console
[13:37] <dr_willis> try the fbset command if you want to change framebuffer settings on the fly
[13:38] <wildc4rd> Ljl, iceroot: this is just using the 'check for updates' should I try something different?
[13:38] <iceroot> falkonz: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/490005  wont fix
[13:38] <LjL> wildc4rd: you should remove that PPA from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ if you want to stop seeing that error
[13:38] <iceroot> falkonz: a duplicate
[13:39] <iceroot> falkonz: comment: I've started on a fix, but will need a bit more time, as this code is fragile and needs improvements outside of this bug.
[13:40] <falkonz> iceroot: when it will be fixed - they will pull new update to lucid?
[13:40] <andrea86> ciao
[13:40] <cmenchion> Hey all, wondering if someone can help me with a video driver.
[13:40] <qwertz1111> fbset says inappropriate ioctl for device
[13:40] <LjL> !it | andrea86
[13:40] <iceroot> falkonz: i guess the fix will be backported, yes
[13:40] <wildc4rd> LjL, sorted thank you.
[13:40] <iceroot> falkonz: because as it seems its a critical bug with datalost
[13:40] <falkonz> iceroot: i guess it will take ages, as this bug is going on from karmic already
[13:41] <ajah> i have the same issue http://askubuntu.com/questions/101308/xorg-segmentation-fault-seems-to-be-relevant-to-evdev can u help me
[13:41] <iceroot> falkonz: reported 09.2011 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecryptfs-utils/+bug/842647
[13:41] <cmenchion> I have an old Acer Aspire 3610 I installed ubuntu on. says that the graphics is not detected. I downloaded the intel driver but how do I install it
[13:41] <wildc4rd> rofl
[13:41] <wildc4rd> (wrong window, sorry)
[13:42] <falkonz> iceroot: thanks
[13:42] <iceroot> falkonz: but having a backup is ALWAYS a good idea
[13:42]  * qwertz1111 is sad because ubuntu is being made for spherical hardware in vacuum
[13:42] <iceroot> falkonz: no metter if that bug exist or not
[13:42] <cmenchion> noone can help?
[13:43] <falkonz> iceroot: you know, these waterfalls in thailand and earth quakes in japan made HDD so high prices today
[13:43] <iceroot> falkonz: cds, dvds, flash-drives
[13:43] <iceroot> falkonz: ubuntu-one
[13:43] <dragonballz> ciao
[13:44] <dragonballz> !list
[13:44] <iceroot> is that a bot with this "ciao, !list"?
[13:44] <dragonballz> ubottu
[13:44] <mintman> qwertz1111: Are u going to make me pull out my google fu to solve or understand what is the problem with ur install.. Give me the full story on how this machine got this way...
[13:45] <cmenchion> please someone help me to install video driver.
[13:46] <qwertz1111> it always was this way
[13:46] <sharkmap> quit  I'm tired
[13:46] <mstsc>  selling dedicated server any country!!!
[13:46] <sharkmap> goodbye all
[13:46] <Myrtti> cmenchion: you really shouldn't need to download and install a driver for intel stuff...
[13:46] <falkonz> iceroot: I don't remember when last I recorded a cd or dvd... i doubt anyone in era of pendrives and external harddrives still does that
[13:46] <oCean> mstsc: don't advertise in here
[13:46] <qwertz1111> right now i'm pissed because my console in 640x480, 80x25
[13:47] <oCean> qwertz1111: please calm down
[13:47] <cmenchion> humm it says that it doesn't know what video chipset i have
[13:47] <mintman> qwertz1111: fine lspci give me video card
[13:47] <cmenchion> trying to play minecraft, just seeing if a new driver would make it a little smoother
[13:48] <cmenchion> I installed ubuntu last night because winblows is crap tbh
[13:48] <oCean> !misspelling | cmenchion
[13:48] <mintman> qwertz1111: nvida or ati or vesa
[13:49] <qwertz1111> mintman: sis771
[13:49] <mintman> qwertz1111: ok going to work magic be back 5 mics
[13:49] <cmenchion> oh my...
[13:50] <danieldsj> cmenchion:  Are you a first time user of Ubuntu?
[13:50] <mintman> qwertz1111: hey try this link http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-sis-771671-mirage-3-video-drivers-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid.html#more-5591
[13:50] <cmenchion> yes
[13:51] <danieldsj> cmenchion:  What version are you using, and what do you think thus far?  Any questions?
[13:51] <mintman> qwertz1111: looks like the driver is blacklist vga driver
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> sis :(
[13:51] <theadmin> MonkeyDust: ?...
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> my old pc had sis too
[13:52] <cmenchion> Using the newest one. 11.01? I think its pretty good. been navigating around trying to get the feel for it
[13:52] <cmenchion> I do like it
[13:52] <mintman> video card sis or mirage has had problems running in ubuntu since 8.10
[13:53] <Barbariandude> You ubuntu guys are awesome btw, ubuntu introduced me to linux and gave me a relatively safe place to play with things and learn without brutally destroying my install. Now I feel more confident I'm going to Gentoo. Cheers guys :D
[13:53] <cmenchion> only question I have is how do i install video drivers :)
[13:53] <qwertz1111> no, it's ubuntu has had problems
[13:53] <mintman> Barbariandude: wow that is a mighty step hill your climbing good luck
[13:53] <danieldsj> cmenchion:  If you poke around in the settings area you'll find an "Additional Drivers" link.  That should get you on the right track.
[13:54] <milan> ciao
[13:54] <cmenchion> yes I found that..nothing comes up in it...and no where to select a driver to install.
[13:54] <Gentoo64> list
[13:54] <milan> lista
[13:54] <danieldsj> cmenchion:  What kind of card do you have?
[13:54] <cmenchion> err or to navigate to one
[13:54] <mintman> qwertz1111: will agree. But is this the distro you want to run?
[13:55] <milan> shooter
[13:55] <Gentoo64> !list | milan
[13:55] <cmenchion> its a onboard intel 965 i think....its an old acer aspire 3610
[13:56] <danieldsj> cmenchion:  I find that Intel cards usually work out of the box.  Is there something lacking from the graphical functionality?
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> i have intel
[13:57] <cmenchion> it seems laggy compared to when running windows xp
[13:57] <Gentoo64> cmenchion: it will do
[13:57] <Gentoo64> cmenchion: lxde is sort of the same speed as xp
[13:57] <mintman> qwertz1111: try this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=958967&page=77
[13:58] <danieldsj> cmenchion:  If you have old hardware, you might want to consider using Lubuntu.  It is an Ubuntu flavour that uses LXDE.
[13:59] <cmenchion> Gentoo64 it doesn't seem like that. using same game (minecraft) I thought would run better in ubuntu runs worse....like everything usually updating drivers help
[13:59] <danieldsj> cmenchion:  I am using it right now in a virtual machine. ;)
[13:59] <cmenchion> ahhh thanks danielsj
[13:59] <cmenchion> I'll check it out
[14:00] <qwertz1111> danieldsj: it will not help
[14:00] <mintman> qwertz1111: this is going to be as close as u get to the reaction as what ur having with this sis 771 card and there solution
[14:00] <mintman> qwertz1111: http://blog.bigsmoke.us/2011/01/18/ubuntu-sis-671-driver
[14:00] <qwertz1111> because lubuntu uses same gnome applications as standard ubuntu
[14:00] <qwertz1111> and gnome services takes same amount of memory
[14:01] <danieldsj> cmenchion:  Using Lubuntu may help with general operating system snappiness, but the Minecraft performance may be due to something else.
[14:01] <Gentoo64> lubuntu will still help in terms of graphics performance
[14:02]  * qwertz1111 goes to reboot
[14:02] <mintman> qwertz1111: good luck :)
[14:02] <cmenchion> well it can't hurt to try
[14:02] <danieldsj> cmenchion:  How are you running Minecraft?  The webpage has some recommendations about memory usage when executing it.
[14:03] <cmenchion> running the java app
[14:03] <danieldsj> cmenchion:  The one in the browser?
[14:03] <cmenchion> no
[14:03] <cmenchion> one i downloaded
[14:03] <delinquentme> does anyone else get weird flickering web pages when browsing youtube or blogger sites w chrome?  im wondering if this is something to do w some weird outlying issue or is related to ubuntu
[14:04] <danieldsj> cmenchion:  Are you using the following command line: java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui.
[14:04] <cmenchion> umm no
[14:04] <cmenchion> I just click the icon/shortcut
[14:05] <danieldsj> cmenchion:  you might want to try that out.  I got the command here: http://www.minecraft.net/download
[14:05] <dr_willis> all else fails.. read the docs eh danieldsj  :)
[14:05] <mintman> cmenchion: ran across another sis 771 that request u to change the xorg.conf to 800x600 that was the best resolution they have.
[14:05] <danieldsj> cmenchion:  It's very possible that the shortcut runs that command anyways, but you might want to try it out just in case.
[14:06] <cmenchion> ok let me try hold one a moment
[14:07] <mintman> that Mirage 671/771 video card is a big problem.  Worse most of the video cards were built in motherboards and laptops...
[14:07] <cmenchion> I'm not runnoing the server though
[14:08] <cloudgeek> any review for from vim hackers
[14:08] <cloudgeek> http://learnhackstuff.blogspot.in/2012/02/vim-as-universal-idepart-1.html
[14:08] <danieldsj> cmenchion: My bad... try this one: java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
[14:08] <cmenchion> lol k
[14:08] <oCean> cloudgeek: wrong channel
[14:08] <cloudgeek> okay sorry but
[14:09] <cloudgeek> is anybody here that is using
[14:09] <oCean> !anyone | cloudgeek
[14:09] <cmenchion> could not find the main class
[14:10] <danieldsj> cmenchion:  poo.
[14:10] <danieldsj> cmenchion:  How about omitting the last bit.... try:  java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar
[14:11] <mintman> cloudgeek: what are u getting at we use vi in archlinux for editing scripts. Also used for beta testers to record notes...
[14:11] <DragonSlay> print to file not working in firefox, how can i enable it? (ubuntu 10.04)
[14:13] <cmenchion> k
[14:13] <cmenchion> sorry had a phone call i will try
[14:14] <cmenchion> lol
[14:14] <cmenchion> could not create java virtual machine
[14:15] <danieldsj> cmenchion:  Arg.
[14:15] <andongni> hi guys.  I have a problem with shutting down 11.10 ... the computer can only shut down when I press the power button and select shut down (or restart or whatever),  but when I us the software icon, it doesn't do anything.
[14:15] <cmenchion> yes
[14:16] <cmenchion> i hear ya danieldsj
[14:16] <linusoleander> I'm having some strange problem with my clock on my server machine.
[14:16] <linusoleander> It's about 20% faster than normal. I used date -s "time" to reset it last night, and now it's 3h and 22 min off.
[14:16] <linusoleander> The npt update is turned of as of yesterday – just in case. What can the problem be?
[14:17] <dr_willis> linusoleander:  has it always had this issue?
[14:17] <linusoleander> dr_willis: No, the server has been working perfect for 1.5 years
[14:17] <linusoleander> It appeard 2 days ago
[14:18] <dr_willis> linusoleander:  Strange. - I had a laptop once where the clock ran like at 10x normal speed due a bios bug. but i dont see how that could be your issue.
[14:18] <dr_willis> I coulkd sit and watch the panel clock tick seconds by at 10x normal speed.. :)  made games really really hard..
[14:18] <linusoleander> dr_willis: The first thing to do, if possible, would be to detach from the BIOS clock
[14:18] <linusoleander> dr_willis: Hehe :)
[14:19] <dr_willis> this is a server you have physical access to?
[14:19] <cmenchion> well thanks for ur helo
[14:19] <cmenchion> help
[14:19] <cmenchion> i'll do some more googling
[14:19] <oCean> linusoleander: I've seen strange behaviour on the hw/biosclock (sudo hwclock --show)
[14:19] <mintman> linusoleander: does this pose a problem with what the software the server runs??
[14:20] <linusoleander> mintman: It times out (if that's the correct word) when i'm usig hwclock, tried it last night
[14:20] <linusoleander> The last message was to oCean
[14:20] <linusoleander> mintman: Yes it does, one of my apps is very dependent of the server clock
[14:21] <oCean> linusoleander: hm, weird? Never saw that. Might be related to the issue.
[14:21] <mintman> linusoleander: curious to now if the bios battery is dieing doubt it.
[14:21] <rebe> any way to change sensitivity of brightness controll in ubuntu ?
[14:21] <mintman> linusoleander: ops cmos
[14:22] <linusoleander> mintman: I'll call the maintainer and ask.
[14:22] <antismap> exit
[14:22] <linusoleander> Hold on
[14:23] <linusoleander> They closed 1 hour ago, to bad
[14:24] <mintman> linusoleander: I wouldn't go that route I would go through log files see what the last update was before the clock started out of cycle..
[14:24] <linusoleander> mintman: Update?
[14:25] <dr_willis> could try an older kernel - see if affects the old kernel also.
[14:25] <linusoleander> dr_willis: I can't afford to restart it. I'm hosting applications for 50k visitors every day
[14:26] <dr_willis> have the timeserver correct system time every min. :)
[14:26] <linusoleander> Using ntp?
[14:26] <dr_willis> im out if ideas then.
[14:26] <mintman> linusoleander: hmm.. what is the condition of the room the server is in . I hope not a lot of dust and small and no air conditioning
[14:27] <linusoleander> mintman: I've no idea, it's an VPS
[14:27] <dr_willis> err.. a vps.. id contact the vps provider then.
[14:27] <Mollynezu> :))
[14:27] <dr_willis> could be somthing they updated..
[14:27] <linusoleander> Yes, I tried it 10 min ago, they where closed for today
[14:28] <mintman> linusoleander: hope this doesn't stop business :( or interrupt business
[14:28] <linusoleander> mintman: It does, which isn't so great :(
[14:29] <kiuzuki> any one know how to get back the skype window after minmizing it ? i am using ubuntu 11.10
[14:29] <mintman> linusoleander: not good.  No one on call for tech support?
[14:29] <dr_willis> wonder if theres some vps forum/online support where you could ask if others are having similer issues.
[14:29] <romainvv> someone know how i must organize a source directory to bluid then a package ?
[14:29] <linusoleander> mintman: They closed 1.5 hours ago
[14:30] <linusoleander> I'll try ServerFault.com
[14:31] <linusoleander> Thanks for the help guys
[14:31] <mintman> linusoleander: this is usually when company's look to host on sight servers.... sorry to here the problem
[14:31] <dafox> does anyone know if/where I can find a version of freetype for ubuntu which has the lcdlegacy filter enabled?
[14:34] <Somelauw> What is the most recent verson of ubuntu that I can upgrade to if I don't want unity?
[14:34] <Barbariandude> 10.10 Somelauw, but it's really easy to take unity off of 11.10
[14:34] <Barbariandude> !nounity | Somelauw
[14:34] <oneliner> or go mint
[14:39] <|Long|> hi, i am moving few folders to my external drive, is there a syntax to move multiple folders i have 01-10 folders but only wanted to move from 05-09?
[14:39] <eXp`iRc|37982> ciao
[14:39] <eXp`iRc|37982> !list
[14:39] <cloudgeek> here is proof vim is better then any IDe such as textmate and pydev ,eclispe and emacs soory folks don't PM me
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> the next ciao-list italian has to pay beers for all
[14:40] <|Long|> can someone plz help
[14:41] <mintman> cloudgeek: what? we already now this just ask the thousand of beta testers on Arch Linux.
[14:41] <dr_willis> |Long|:  via bash/command line you mean?
[14:41] <Somelauw> |Long| in evince you can select multiple files
[14:41] <Somelauw> In bash, you'll probably have to use a forloop thing.
[14:42] <dr_willis> |Long|: bash has a regular expression feature to do that.. but i  would just cheat and use 'mc' or some other command line file manager. :)
[14:42] <|Long|> i use ssh preferably cmd like mv
[14:42] <dr_willis> mc is too handy to not know about.
[14:42] <dr_willis> works great over ssh also
[14:42] <Somelauw> dr_willis: ranger is better
[14:42] <Somelauw> much better imo
[14:42] <dr_willis> been using mc for 12+ yrs.. :)  so im not changeing any time soon
[14:42] <|Long|> can i do sudo mv /dir/file1-file9 /destination/file
[14:42] <Somelauw> don't know why it is not available in the software center
[14:43] <dr_willis> |Long|:  bash has some syntax similer to that.. but i dont know it exactly off hand.
[14:43] <dr_willis> dir/file[1-9]  perhaps..
[14:43] <|Long|> let me try that
[14:43] <dr_willis> try echo flile[1-9] as a test.. or just make a simple script that does each move. and run it.
[14:44] <dr_willis> for just 9 items.. maybe quicker to just do a script :)
[14:44] <dr_willis> Im lazy  and always seem to do trivial scripts instead of complex command lines.
[14:44] <rebe> how do I change sensitivity of brightness controll in ubuntu ?
[14:44] <|Long|> dr_willis, that wont work
[14:45] <lucas-arg> i tried to install a kworld ub405-a under linux without success, using linux tv media-build tree... any ideas where else i can find drivers for this card?? ive also checked out the manufacturers web site and even mail them, they told me there is no support for linux, dont know where else to go...
[14:45] <dr_willis> |Long|:  what wont..
[14:45] <mintman> |Long|: mv file1 file2 file3 directory
[14:46] <mintman> |Long|:  link http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/linuxcommand.org/lts0050.html
[14:46] <dr_willis> http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/wildcards.html
[14:46] <|Long|> mintman, your method is worked thanks alot
[14:46] <dr_willis> tab completion would work if its just a few dirs/files also.
[14:46] <theadmin> |Long|: foreach $i in {1..9} ; do mv file$i dir ; done
[14:46] <dr_willis> now if you had 8000+ dirs...
[14:47] <theadmin> err
[14:47] <oCean> |Long|: something like  mv /path/to/dir/file0{5..9} /to/this/dir
[14:47] <theadmin> for $i in {1..9} ; do mv file$i dir ; done
[14:47] <dr_willis> Bonus points.. what if you wanted to do every ODD numbered directory. :)
[14:48] <quiescens> extra credit isn't worth the effort
[14:48] <Somelauw> {1..9..2} ?
[14:48] <mintman> |Long|: No big deal any one of use could have figured out this. better thank dr_willis
[14:48] <Somelauw> I am not even sure if {1..9} is inclusive or excluse 9.
[14:49] <oCean> Somelauw: incl
[14:49] <|Long|> dr_willis, thanks to you also
[14:49] <Somelauw> * including, excluding
[14:49] <dr_willis> Ive always followed the methodology of making simple scripts from years past. Ive written scripts to generate the simple scripts years ago. :)
[14:49] <dr_willis> habbits from years ago using sh, and amigas command line.
[14:49] <dr_willis> and REXX
[14:52] <quiescens> and then the scripts start generating scripts that generate scripts
[14:53] <dr_willis> thates PERL.. not Rexx. :)
[14:53] <oCean> let's move on, ok? Or take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:58] <bullgard4> [Ubuntu 11.10 GNOME Shell 3.2.1] Clicking Super-key > epiphany > Epiphany symbol obtains: "Error when opening the file: File or directory not found." How to debug?
[14:59] <ikonia> bullgard4: look at what that shortkey key does, see if the file it's calling is there
[15:00] <mcl0vin> howdy folks , am doing an upgrade from 10.4 to 10.10 using "update-manager" am at the installing the upgrades step and it is stuck in 'about 29 minutes remaining' " preparing ttf-lyx"and i am getting this failed message http://pastebin.com/mCpWMUv4
[15:00] <bullgard4> ikonia: What "shortkey" do you mean?
[15:00] <ikonia> bullgard4: "super-key -> epihany"
[15:01] <ikonia> mcl0vin: that looks like a conflict from a PPA package
[15:01] <ikonia> mcl0vin: I've seen something similar recently with (I think it was) the Gimp PPA
[15:01] <ikonia> mcl0vin: got any PPA's or 3rd party repos enabled ?
[15:01] <AD_> Hi, stuck with installation, can yo help in separate page?
[15:01] <ikonia> AD_: just ask the question
[15:02] <AD_> network cannot connect, been trying for 12 hours now...
[15:02] <mcl0vin> ikonia: i talked about that early in the process and said it will diable 3rd party
[15:02] <AD_> wired, brand new PC
[15:02] <ikonia> AD_: "cannot connect" ?
[15:02] <AD_> NO OS instaslled
[15:02] <bullgard4> ikonia: This is no shortkey. Tthis is the normal GNOME Shell way to call an application program, in my case the application "Epiphany". And indeed, the Epiphany symbol appears.
[15:02] <ikonia> mcl0vin: ahhh but you have had 3rd parties installed ?
[15:02] <ikonia> bullgard4: ok - so look at what that icon links to
[15:03] <AD_> Ubuntu 11.10 64bit from USB
[15:03] <ikonia> bullgard4: or launch it manually and work it through
[15:03] <ikonia> AD_: what are you talking about then, "can't connect" if there is no OS installed
[15:03] <mcl0vin> ikonia: i have Gimp ...and i bleveie i have wine
[15:03] <ikonia> mcl0vin: game over
[15:03] <azariah4> Hi! I only have loopback under ifconfig, but lshw -c network shows the ethernet controller of the motherboard, how can I bring it up so I get a eth0 or eth1 interface?
[15:03] <ikonia> mcl0vin: using those repos will update certain core files
[15:03] <mcl0vin> ikonia: what am dead lol
[15:03] <ikonia> mcl0vin: those will conflict with the upgrade process,
[15:03] <iText> am trying to set an icon to my python application with .desktop file, but the icon when double clicked it momentarily shows the terminal window and disappears, the code pasted here http://paste.pound-python.org/show/16553/
[15:03] <AD_> if you want to install the OS from the USB, second page is asking to connect
[15:03] <mcl0vin> ikonia: what poor me should do now
[15:04] <ikonia> mcl0vin: it's the price of using PPA's that are not well designed or thought through, and it's part of the reasons people don't support PPAs
[15:04] <ikonia> mcl0vin: re-install
[15:04] <ikonia> AD_: I have no idea what you are talking about "asking you to connect"
[15:04] <AD_> connect to the network
[15:04] <andongni> Anyone know why Ubuntu 11.10 doesn't shut down when I select it in the menu, but it does shut down when I use the power button?
[15:04] <ikonia> AD_: you don't need to connect to any network to install, unless you are doing a net install
[15:05] <ikonia> andongni: bad apci support ?
[15:05] <mcl0vin> ikonia: please tell me that the upgrade will continue and when you said reinstall you are talking about gimp and other 3rd party
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> andongni: power button cuts the power, works on any OS.
[15:05] <ikonia> mcl0vin: very doubtful
[15:05] <AD_> Yes, but is should right?
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> andongni: do you have network shares mounted?
[15:05] <AD_> it should
[15:05] <ikonia> mcl0vin: PPA's should not be used and people need to take responsability for the PPAs
[15:05] <mcl0vin> ikonia: PPA what do you mean
[15:05] <mcl0vin> !PPA
[15:06] <hroi> hi
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> AD_: just don't select to install updates and junk at install time and you will be fine.
[15:06] <AD_> I am now on the USB Live desktop, I should be able to browse the web, but again, I cannot connect
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> AD_: if your wifi doesn't work out of the box or cannot be made to work then you will be offline for the install process...
[15:07] <tripple-sf> leave
[15:07] <hroi> hi
[15:07] <hroi> has anyone experience with djanog on ubuntu?
[15:07] <andongni> Action: I don't mean if I hold the button for 5 seconds ... if I just tap it, the shut down option box pops up
[15:07] <andongni> (a laptop)
[15:07] <AD_> I am wired, DHCP is set to automatic, it should work, I may install, but then I will be back to square one
[15:08] <hroi> I'm wondering if I can play around with django ,  wihtout embedding it in a webserver?
[15:08] <andongni> Action: I dunno how to check for mounted network shares
[15:08] <AD_> I cannot understand why it does not connect
[15:08] <ikonia> AD_: are you trying to connect to a wireles network ?
[15:08] <AD_> WIred
[15:08] <administrator_> 000
[15:08] <AD_> LAN
[15:08] <ikonia> AD_: what network card is in your machine ?
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> andongni: ahh, gotcha. Yes that is also configurable to do other things, yours is set to shutdown. Do you access files on another system over the LAN?
[15:08] <administrator_> y
[15:09] <ikonia> administrator_: if you have a question, please ask it
[15:09] <mcl0vin> ikonia: ok lesson learn, what shall i do now am stuck at this screen "http://screencast.com/t/Qq0Augtqg"
[15:09] <ikonia> mcl0vin: re-install
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> AD_: some wired chips don't work out of the box, there are very few
[15:09] <andongni> Action: nope.  No LAN-based file sharing
[15:09] <AD_> no idea, it is a brand new MB from ASROCK
[15:09] <administrator_> superuser
[15:09] <AD_> AMD processor
[15:09] <mcl0vin> ikonia: re-install what?
[15:09] <administrator_> yes
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> andongni: if you run:  sudo shutdown -h now    does the OS die?
[15:09] <ikonia> mcl0vin: your OS
[15:09] <administrator_> no
[15:10] <mcl0vin> what!!!!
[15:10] <andongni> Action: I guess my logging off will let us know ;)
[15:10] <andongni> be back
[15:10] <administrator__> hi
[15:11] <mcl0vin> ikonia: there got to be a way around it
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> mcl0vin: if you are that far back I'd go for a clean install of Oneiric
[15:11] <ikonia> mcl0vin: no, there isn't
[15:11] <mcl0vin> ikonia: this is a headless box
[15:11] <ubukou> hey folks..
[15:11] <ikonia> mcl0vin: how does that change anything
[15:11] <Alperen> hi i updated ubuntu it want me to restart it so i did it. But when i try to login it cant login. It Throw me to
[15:12] <Alperen> lightdm
[15:12] <mcl0vin> ikonia: reinstall it ... am remote to it
[15:12] <administrator__> why i can't install radio
[15:12] <ikonia> mcl0vin: it's what needs to happen though
[15:12] <ubukou> anyone using lightdm? im having an issue.. when i shut down it save the running programs state.. is that something that happened in GDM too ?
[15:12] <andongni> Action : shutdown: time expected Try `shutdown --help' for more information. andrew@incogitatus:~$
[15:13] <mcl0vin> ActionParsnip: ikonia then i will loose all me data
[15:13] <AD_> ActionParsnip: any way you can help?
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> mcl0vin: no, as you will have your data backups
[15:13] <danes> hello, is there any support for fingerprint readers? Do you recommend using one?
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> AD_: when you select shutdown and you see the plymouth splash, press ESC so you can watch the shutdown. See where it hangs
[15:14] <auk> My web browsers recognizes my java 7 plugin from Oracle's website. but I can not get those plugins to work.     Especially since I deleted my /home/ user directory to fix the problem of slow LOGOUTS.
[15:14] <auk> How can I fix this?
[15:14] <ikonia> mcl0vin: back up the data you need now while the machine is functioning
[15:14] <bullgard6> ikonia: '~$ epiphany; ** (epiphany-browser:20964): CRITICAL **: load_error_cb: assertion `(error->domain == WEBKIT_NETWORK_ERROR) || (error->domain == WEBKIT_POLICY_ERROR) || (error->domain == WEBKIT_PLUGIN_ERROR)' failed.' --  Is this worth reporting to Launchpad?
[15:14] <ubukou> ActionParsnip, hey man... i got back to XFCE after using KDE for a day.. XFCE is ROCK solid...
[15:14] <ikonia> bullgard6: what version of ubuntu is this ?
[15:14] <therealdongle> hey there, does anyone know: what are the improvements of ubuntu in precise?
[15:14] <auk> It only shows a grey box which loads no java7 contents.
[15:15] <bullgard6> ikonia:  Ubuntu 11.10 GNOME Shell 3.2.1
[15:15] <ubukou> ActionParsnip, i got stuck with LightDM.. have you used it ?
[15:15] <ikonia> bullgard6: I doubt it's a genuine problem as someone would have noticed such a core bit of fucntionality not working, it's more likley a problem with your setup
[15:15] <bullgard6> ikonia: Right.
[15:15] <AD_> ActionParsnip: what do you want to know, there a bunch of stuff hanging
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> auk: did you symlink the java plugin to your browser?
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> ubukou: yeah its default in Precise
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> ubukou: glad you like it :)
[15:16] <auk> ActionParsnip: Yes. The plugins appears in this "special" browsing page:  about:plugins           and as well in the normal "Web browser preferences & etc".
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> danes: I'd check the HCL to see which work TBH
[15:16]  * mcl0vin ikonia searching for my external 1TB drive
[15:16] <ubukou> ActionParsnip,  its sooooo stable and seems to be usin very little resources...
[15:17] <ubukou> ActionParsnip, thatnks for the recomandation...
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> ubukou: as I always say; there is more than Gnome
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> auk: does: http://java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp    work?
[15:17] <ubukou> ActionParsnip, any Login manager to go with it that goes with it well ?
[15:18] <smoove> Is it normal that if I do "gcc myprogram.c -lzmq -lczmq" it complains about a bunch of references, but if I do "gcc -lzmq -lczmq myprogram.c" it works?
[15:18] <auk> ActionParsnip: No. The results is only a grey box where no content loads.
[15:18] <danes> ActionParsnip, Whoa! I appreciate that you want to help but honestly I have no idea what those acronyms mean so I couldn't understand much
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> ubukou: slim is lightweight, if lightdm is working for you then I'd stick with it
[15:18] <ikonia> smoove: yes
[15:18] <AD_> ActionParsnip: I see you are too busy to help. Cheres
[15:18] <ikonia> smoove: the guys in #gcc and ##c can explain how to use the compiler
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> danes: HCL = hardware compatibility list
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> danes: TBH = to be honest
[15:18] <smoove> ikonia, thanks.
[15:19] <smoove> I can't join ##c though and I can't send to #gcc
[15:19] <danes> ActionParsnip, now that makes more sense hehe thanks. Any idea where can I find a list with compatible HW?
[15:19] <Telugodu> hi
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> auk: is your OS 32bit?
[15:19] <Telugodu> i have a serious problem
[15:19] <smoove> how do I make my ubuntu box do identd? I'm behind a firewall
[15:19] <ubukou> ActionParsnip, hmmm i ll search around for its settings then cause it saves the processes running when i shutdown and i cant use XFCE as default desktop enviroment...
[15:19] <ikonia> smoove: you need an ident daemon running
[15:19] <mcl0vin> ikonia: normally i plug my usb drive and it pops up now its not
[15:19] <Telugodu> i installed ati propreitary drivers
[15:20] <ubukou> ActionParsnip, thanks :)
[15:20] <auk> smoove: Register yourself a NickServ user account. Type: /msg NickServ register myPasswordHere       My@email.here.com
[15:20] <ikonia> mcl0vin: possibly because the libraries are all messed up due to the partial upgrade
[15:20] <Telugodu> had some glitches in gnome 3 so tried to uninstall fgrlx and reinstall normal drivers
[15:20] <auk> ActionParsnip: No. This is my 64bit machine. I downloaded oracle's 64bit version of java 7.
[15:20] <xubuntu5> bmbbb
[15:20] <Telugodu> but i get this error
[15:20] <Telugodu> unable to locate package libgl1-mesa-glx:amd64
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> auk: I have a script, you can check what you did with that if you want
[15:21] <Telugodu> now i get a blank screen
[15:21] <Telugodu> please help
[15:21] <mcl0vin> ikonia: true... any suggestions please
[15:21] <auk> ActionParsnip: Ah sure, I'll make use of it.
[15:21] <frybye> Hi - I have 11.10 running on the on-board ATI 3000 Graphics - but if it fit in the gt240 card the screen is a mess and I dont know how to switch to the nvidia drivers I have installed...?
[15:21] <ikonia> mcl0vin: try to manually mount it,
[15:21] <ikonia> mcl0vin: copy the data off over the network
[15:21] <xubuntu5> hey!
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> auk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/828926/
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> auk: its pretty simple really
[15:23] <frybye> - put differently.. is there a way to specify what video driver to us during the boot process...?
[15:23] <danes> I plan to buy a usb fingerprint reader to use it with ubuntu. Anyone has suggestions as which brand may be convinient?
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | danes
[15:23] <ikonia> danes: research linux compatible devices,
[15:23] <frybye> danes.. most work afasik
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> frybye: you can blacklist drivers to force the OS to load a specific one, or you can use an xorg.conf file
[15:24] <ikonia> danes: also check at what kernel level they are supported at to make sure the ubuntu version you want to use is at that level
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> auk: I use chromium browser too, hence the symlink
[15:25] <auk> Yea I noticed.
[15:25] <frybye> so the pc is running with the ati 3000 onboard now - and if I edit xorg.config - fit the gt240 card in - it will then use the corrected xorg.conf?
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> frybye: do you want to use both video cards?
[15:26] <frybye> eh - or wont the changed xorg.conf take immediate effect or .. hmm.. me with limited knwledge again..
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> frybye: the xorg.conf will need manually editting
[15:26] <frybye> ActionParsnip: no I am happy with just the gt240 - which is much better than the 3000
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> frybye: then disable the onboard card in BIOS and set the primary display to the pci express
[15:27] <_Ethan_> for a remote control of a pc by using LAN, what would you recommend me ? any software?
[15:27] <jack1> what up fools
[15:27] <jack1> WHAST HAPPENING
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: what are you controlling it to achieve?
[15:27] <jack1> YO YO
[15:27] <FloodBot1> jack1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:28] <jack1> Floodbot is on
[15:28] <ikonia> jack1: hi, you may want to check the channels topic
[15:28] <ikonia> !guidelines > jack1
[15:28] <frybye> ActionParsnip: If I past my xorg.conf - could you fix it for me...? In the bios there is only a setting wich switches the priorities of 4 different listingy of integrated grafic - but I see nowhere to switch it off...?
[15:28] <ikonia> jack1: also you may want to check how to interact in the channels, ubottu has just sent you a pm with a link to guide you
[15:28] <_Ethan_> ActionParsnip im planning to mount a pc without screen and keyboard, in a small room, and control it from my bedroom by using a remote connection.
[15:28] <jack1> no wackers
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: yes but to achieve what end?
[15:28] <basti> list
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> frybye: the nvidia-xconfig    command will make you an xorg.conf   file.
[15:29] <_Ethan_> i dont want to have the tower with the fan (very noisy) in my room.
[15:29] <ikonia> basti: no
[15:29] <ikonia> not here
[15:29] <_Ethan_> and i dont have a flat screen , so i prefer to control it remotely, it is a old amd athlon
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: so the client system is more like a thin client
[15:30] <frybye> ActionParsnip: even with the gt240 card not physically present??? If I put it in the pc automatically tries to use it and makes a mess of the screen?
[15:30] <_Ethan_> i thought about teamviewer
[15:30] <_Ethan_> but i think it has to connect to the teamviewer's servers
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> frybye: you may need the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[15:30] <frybye> ActionParsnip: thanks for all the help so far...
[15:30] <_Ethan_> and i cannot have LAN speed
[15:30] <_Ethan_> in that case
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: but what activities are you doing on the remote system?
[15:30] <_Ethan_> just storing and maybe running torrent
[15:31] <frybye> ActionParsnip: how to I get to use a boot option - interrupt the boot process with what key?
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> frybye: hold shift and you can add it there by pressing E on the kernel
[15:31] <_Ethan_> and well, who knows, freaking with mame could be a choice too :P
[15:31] <n1c0-nuX> Hello, i'm looking for a good ubuntu video screen capture log... Who can help me ?
[15:31] <_Ethan_> (mame is the multiple arcade program)
[15:31] <bullgard6> '~$ gunzip /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser.1.gz;  gzip: /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser.1.gz: Too many levels of symbolic links' --  How to deal with this?
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: gaming over LAN like that isn't going to be terribly effective
[15:32] <_Ethan_> ok, np
[15:32] <_Ethan_> its not my primary goal
[15:32] <_Ethan_> my goal is to access and control it from another pc in my lan
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: most stuff you can manae with web UIs and SSH (X forwarding as well as file serving)
[15:32] <frybye> ActionParsnip:  let me get this right - I psychically fit the gt240 card.. then boot the system to the ati 3000 by using nouveau.blacklist=1 and then use the nvidia-xconfig or ..?
[15:32] <_Ethan_> i really would like to install both windows and ubuntu
[15:32] <Franky> I have a question. I just recently downloaded Ubuntu (through a USB) and it took up 37 GB of space. I then got XFCE yesterday since I have an old computer. I'm trying to update things but it says I only have 2.5GB left. Is there a way I can gain more?
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: you haven't said what you will be doing on the server, just that you want to access it....
[15:33] <_Ethan_> ActionParsnip what i want to do is exactly what teamviewer does
[15:33] <Culiforge> is jrib around?
[15:33] <frybye> aitch - now I have it - I do the nvidia-xconfig now - and then add the gt240 and boot to that...
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: once more...Why do you want to connect? What will you do once connected to the remote system? What is the purpose of connecting to the remote system?
[15:34] <holstein> Franky: delete things... you can purge whatever you are not using... an instal should *not* take 37GB's, thats likely your data
[15:34] <mcl0vin> ikonia: is there a way i can have a list of all pkgs i have so that i can reinstall them after fresh install
[15:34] <_Ethan_> ActionParsnip i will for example download files
[15:34] <zzecool> 37 gb install ????
[15:34] <zzecool> omg
[15:34] <zzecool> lol
[15:34] <_Ethan_> to my laptop from that pc
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: dowload, like torrents?
[15:34] <_Ethan_> yes
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: you don't need teamviewer for that
[15:35] <_Ethan_> or videos, etc
[15:35] <Franky> Holstein:  tried that but I just got this yesterday. I don't have anything to delete. lol.
[15:35] <_Ethan_> yes that's why im looking for another choice :D
[15:35] <_Ethan_> or running Matlab, Octave
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: you can use the webui in transmission to manage torrents, you can then use samba or sftp to share your file system
[15:35] <Somelauw> Hi, is it safe to enable vt-x in my bios? Is there a reason this setting is enabled by default?
[15:35] <Somelauw> virtualbox seems to require this change
[15:36] <holstein> Franky: then you will just need to tolerate it, delete things, or mount the hard drive live and consider resizing partitions, though i would not do that without having aeverything backedup
[15:36] <_Ethan_> ActionParsnip ok
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: isn't octave ran in a terminal?
[15:36] <_Ethan_> ActionParsnip yes
[15:37] <_Ethan_> it is
[15:37] <Franky> holstein: poohey. Is their any way I can downsize the amount of space it takes Ubuntu to run? All I know is yesterday it said it would use 37GB of my space during the installation.
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: so you can use putty or ssh in a terminal and connect, makes no sense to see the whole screen when you are just going to open a terminal
[15:37] <zzecool> Franky: there is something wrong with your installation
[15:37] <mcl0vin> i remember Debian had a way that you can mirror all your pkgs back to the new install
[15:37] <zzecool> something terribly wrong
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: this is WHY I ask what people are doing as soon as they start chatting about teamviewer etc, a LOT of the time its not needed..
[15:38] <Franky> zzecool: I downloaded linux from a USB using Linux Pendrive (I think that's what the program is called)
[15:38] <Culiforge> was chatting with jrib earlier about fixing a boot problem.. upon his advice I chroot'd to the not booting install but don't know what to do from there
[15:38] <zzecool> Run system-monitor
[15:38] <_Ethan_> ActionParsnip
[15:38] <frybye> ActionParsnip: nvidia-xconfig ... "command not found...??"
[15:38] <zzecool> and check the last tab
[15:39] <_Ethan_> teamviewer is really easy to install
[15:39] <zzecool> to see where is all this space
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: running just the SSH terminal will use a lot less resources
[15:39] <wessel> How can I move the top "system" bar to below
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: easier than:  sudo apt-get install openssh-server       I doubt it heavily
[15:39] <zzecool> wessel: you cant
[15:39]  * Aha2Y wants Ubuntu on smartphone!!!
[15:39] <Franky> zzecool: Is system monitor in the settings menu?
[15:39] <wessel> What you mean you can't?
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> Aha2Y: omgubuntu have some mock ups.
[15:40] <pk__> Aha2Y: bad idea, i would say
[15:40] <zzecool> open the dash and type system
[15:40] <wessel> I just did an update, it used to always at the bottom of my screen
[15:40] <Aha2Y> Why Bad?
[15:40] <_Ethan_> ActionParsnip yes
[15:40] <zzecool> it gonna reveal him self
[15:40] <Aha2Y> Wouldn't it be awesome?
[15:40] <Aha2Y> Having ubuntu on your phone
[15:40] <_Ethan_> click on an icon and voila!
[15:40] <holstein> Franky: ubuntu has never taken that much for me.. are you sure this is ubuntu? and not something ubuntu based?
[15:40] <Aha2Y> Just needs a bigger screen and CPU
[15:40] <_Ethan_> Aha2Y that's android :)
[15:40] <Aha2Y> Noway.
[15:40] <frybye> ActionParsnip: what packets have to be installed for    nvidia-xconfig to function?
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: still needs to download a deb, openssh is a command, no web browsing needed
[15:41] <Aha2Y> Ubuntu needs to replace Android!
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> frybye: nvidia-current
[15:41] <pk__> Aha2Y: what is the difference
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> Aha2Y: no way, android rocks
[15:41] <pk__> both are linux
[15:41] <Aha2Y> Android is slow :(
[15:41] <Aha2Y> But ubuntu haz unity :P
[15:41] <holstein> Franky: i would download the iso directly from http://www.ubuntu.com/ ...come here *before* downloading/installing and ask about what you want to do
[15:41] <rlrosa> sed
[15:41] <Aha2Y> a phone that acts more like a computer than some computers
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> Aha2Y: use golauncher, flys on my GT540
[15:41] <Franky> holstein: This is ubuntu. I downloaded it from a Linux site. Actually, from cnet.com because I was following directions on how to download it to a USB. Currently I have XFCE. Would uninstalling other enviroments help?
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: in short you don't need the full desktop in any way. You can do your octave stuff via ssh which will be faster and use fewer resources
[15:42] <holstein> Franky: good luck ! ...i routinely run ubuntu on 8gb virtual hard drives
[15:42] <Aha2Y> I have a GT-I5800 and android is slow ass hell.
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> Aha2Y: try golauncher ex
[15:42] <Aha2Y> With a apt market
[15:42] <Aha2Y> Lol golaunched :P
[15:42] <holstein> Franky: you could have downloaded a customized version of ubuntu from somewhere else
[15:42] <Aha2Y> You are funny.
[15:43] <holstein> Franky: you dont "download it to USB'
[15:43] <holstein> if you would like to make a bootable USB stick, that can be done with the normal iso that i suggest you download from http://www.ubuntu.com/
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> Aha2Y: try it, its smooth
[15:43] <wessel> Is it really impossible to move the position of the "email/sound/clock/user bar" ?
[15:43] <Aha2Y> ActionParsnip, I have
[15:43] <Franky> holstein: I made my USB a boot device to download Ubuntu on to so I didn't need to buy the boot disk.
[15:43] <Aha2Y> My phone is just SLOW.
[15:44] <holstein> Franky: im not suggesting you purchase anything
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> wessel: depends which desktop :)
[15:44] <bullgard6> '~$ gunzip /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser.1.gz;  gzip: /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser.1.gz: Too many levels of symbolic links' --  How to deal with this?
[15:44] <holstein> Franky: im suggesting that the fact you have a 30+gb installation, i suspect you have downloaded *not* the normal ubuntu
[15:44] <wessel> I just did an update, I don't think my desktop changed
[15:44] <wessel> What is desktop?
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> wessel: do you use Unity?
[15:45] <holstein> Franky: if that is a customized installation disk, who knows what is on it, and you would need to refer to the creator (cnet, or whoever) to ask what is ther and why
[15:45] <wessel> Probably
[15:45] <xubuntu5> anyone here use centerim?
[15:45] <holstein> Franky: i would be comfortable with 6 or 8gb's to run ubuntu on
[15:45] <wessel> How do I check?
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> wessel: application bar on the left?
[15:45] <wessel> Yes
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> wessel: thats unity on gnome desktop
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> wessel: I'm not sure it can be moved but I've not used unity a lot
[15:46] <holstein> Franky: you dont purchase the iso from http://www.ubuntu.com/ ,its just the *official* download, instead of what i am alleging as a custom one
[15:46] <Franky> holstein: Oh. :( So there is a way to download an OS (in my case Ubuntu XFCE) directly to my comp.
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> wessel: you could install xfce4 and use that as yourdesktop and it will look like Gnome2
[15:46] <wessel> Well I keep turning off my machine when I want to close an application, because the turn off machine is in the top right corner
[15:46] <xubuntu5> xubuntu has xfce in it
[15:46] <holstein> Franky: xubuntu is what you would want for XFCE and ubuntu
[15:46] <wessel> where the [x] button of a window used to be
[15:46] <xubuntu5> xubuntu is awesome :)
[15:46] <mgaunard_> are there repositories where I can find more recent builds of the kernel?
[15:46] <holstein> Franky: again that will take up about 5 or 6 gb's stock
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> you can install xfce4 on Ubuntu or Kubuntu and it will be an option at login
[15:47] <holstein> http://xubuntu.org/
[15:47] <Franky> holstein: OH! THAT EXPLAINS EVERYTHING :) Thank you :) I accidentally downloaded both Ubuntu and Xubuntu. Is there a way I can uninstall Ubuntu?
[15:47] <holstein> Franky: you dont purchase the iso from there ^^ its free... you just know its the official iso
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> so no need to install a new ubuntu, just install the package you need
[15:47] <holstein> Franky: sure, but that wont get you 30GB"s extra
[15:48] <Franky> holstein: I know but it'll help a little. So how do I uninstall Ubuntu and keep my Xubuntu and XFCE
[15:48] <frybye> ActionParsnip: I have installed   nvidia-current   but nvidia-xconfig   is still not being found??? sorry...
[15:48] <auk> ActionParsnip: Thank you so much for that script, I was able to install my 64bit version of that java. :D
[15:48] <holstein> Franky: if you have 30+gb's, you can uninstall a lot ...but i dont know what you have, and you'll just need to search blindly through the packages... OR, just install the official xubuntu
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> auk: nice, just tweak the script huh ;)
[15:49] <wessel> ActionParsnip, can you give me some keywords, I would like to change the unity "desktop layout" but I'm not sure what is the proper naming
[15:49] <wessel> Like how is the top "bar" called?
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> frybye: its installed with the nvidia-current package, what is the output of:   lsb_release -sc
[15:49] <holstein> Franky: you can search in a package manager for ubuntu-desktop for example, but that is *not* going to free up 30GB's
[15:49] <Franky> holstein: Oh okay gotcha. I got Xubuntu from my cousin yesterday. He gave me a code to type into a terminal. It then downloaded xubuntu for me. Do you want me to show you the code?
[15:49] <frybye> ActionParsnip: oneric
[15:49] <holstein> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[15:49] <xubuntu5> you can do that?
[15:49] <frybye> e e e oneiric
[15:50] <xubuntu5> wasn't and that installs it on top of ubuntu??
[15:50] <holstein> Franky: something like that but thats *not* 30gb's of stuff
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> wessel: try:   edit unity top bar
[15:50] <xubuntu5> anyone try cinnamon??
[15:50] <andreas_> can anyone tell me how to convince linux to  use my docking station's dvi and displayport interfaces? so far only vga and lvds1 are shown in xrandr :(
[15:50] <holstein> Franky: i have to run... i suggest you get an offical iso and start over, but if you want to manually go through a package manger and search, im sure someone will help you get closer to a stock install :) ... enjoy!
[15:50] <jemt> Hi. Are php/text files "tagged" with a specific encoding, or is the encoding given by the characters used in the document? If the latter is the case, how does programs determine what charset to use to interpret the content? Trial and error ?
[15:50] <xubuntu5> andreas_: try rstarting with them connecting and then checking what xrandr says it's the only way i can get my comp to recognize my hdmi connection :( i have to restart with the hdmi connected and on
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> frybye: http://paste.ubuntu.com/828955/
[15:51] <Franky> holstein: Thank you for your help
[15:51] <jemt> I ask because gEdit saves files as UTF-8 by default, which is a pain in the ass. I just want to know if it is actually a problem
[15:52] <usalabs_> hi all, for some reason my list of key servers in seahorse (ie passwords and encryption) and I can't sync any keys for backs,,, what are the defaults listed?
[15:52] <usalabs_> the list is empty
[15:52] <Franky> Does anyone know how to manually uninstall Ubuntu from a computer. I want to keep Xubuntu and XFCE I just want Ubuntu gone since it slows my PC down due to the graphics
[15:52] <MrKeuner> hello, trying to create a desktop launcher by editing a file. Although I create all the entries in a launcher, it doesn't work: icon set in [Desktop Entry] does not show up and double clicking the launcher gives an error: Untrusted application launcher. How can I do this properly?
[15:53] <frybye> ActionParsnip: does that mean that nvidia-xcofig does not work with 11.10? If so what do i do then?
[15:53] <ericus> What does SATA powerlink management do, and can I enable it with an SSD disk?
[15:53] <ericus> to save power on my netbook
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> frybye: its in the nvidia-current package
[15:54] <krazed> What's the quickest way to upgrade from 10.04LTS to 11.10
[15:54] <theadmin> krazed: Reinstall. Or wait for 12.04, then you can upgrade directly (lts to lts)
[15:54] <reina01> !list
[15:54] <Franky> I have Ubuntu 11.10 and I want it off of my computer (I also have Xubuntu and XFCE so I won't be without an OS)since in slows my comp. sown
[15:54] <Franky> down*
[15:55] <frybye> sorry I looked at that past.ubuntu etc etc.. and there is something about " No LSB modules are available." is that why the command cant be found or I dont understand?
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> frybye: could try: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-update; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[15:55] <krazed> theadmin, alright thanks. I'm showing support for my laptop's video card within 11.10 but I can't get it to work with 10.04, I would prefer to stay with 10.04 but I can't figure out how to get the video working.
[15:55] <Franky> anyone here?
[15:55] <frybye> nvidia-current is installed in synaptic - with a few other nvidia drivers I tried.. is -that_ the problem?
[15:55] <karel_ff>  libfreetype6-dev : Depends: libfreetype6 (= 2.4.4-2ubuntu1) but 2.4.4-2ubuntu1.1 is to be installed. Any ideas?
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> FrankLv: you can have both installed, only one desktop will run, the rest will only take up drive space. They don't run at the same time
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> karel_ff: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[15:56] <bullgard6> '~$ gunzip /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser.1.gz;  gzip: /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser.1.gz: Too many levels of symbolic links' --  How to deal with this?
[15:56] <karel_ff> Sorry, running oneiric
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> karel_ff: what is causing the error?
[15:56] <Franky> ActionParsnip: I know but I want Ubuntu off of my computer. I want to keep Xubuntu though (I have that along with ubuntu). Is there a way I can do this?
[15:57] <karel_ff> apt-get install libfree6-dev
[15:57] <mk> hii
[15:57] <usalabs_> anyone know the default key servers list for seahorse? (passwords and encryption keys), so that I can sync my keys,, for some reason the list is empty,, I know one of them was pgp.mit.edu but I don't know the port, and there was other listed too
[15:57] <karel_ff> My sources.list is pretty standard
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> karel_ff: can you use:  http://pastie.org    to pastebin the output of:  apt-cache policy libfree6-dev      Thanks
[15:57] <frybye> ActionParsnip: nvidia-current is installed in synaptic - with a few other nvidia drivers I tried.. is -that_ the problem?
[15:57] <Guest53892> who is mason?
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> frybye: if you have lots of nvidia drivers installed (not the modaliases) then it can cause issues
[15:58] <karel_ff> ActionParsnip: http://pastie.org/3315946
[15:59] <Franky> There has got to be a way I can get Ubuntu off of my computer and still keep Xubuntu! Please help!
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> Guest53892  james mason was an actor, but that's offtopic
[15:59] <karel_ff> ActionParsnip: output for libfreetype6 itself is here: http://pastie.org/3315954
[15:59] <frybye> ActionParsnip: can it be that nvidia-config is now called nvidia settings?
[15:59] <bullgard6> usalabs_: hkp: //keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371
[16:00] <frybye> ActionParsnip: there is a packet with that name...
[16:00] <auk> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=nyYQE55b                           Yea, I added in a: sudo mkdir -p /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins   and something for firefox/opera & etc.
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> karel_ff: wget http://launchpadlibrarian.net/85376787/libfreetype6_2.4.4-2ubuntu1.1_i386.deb; sudo dpkg -i ./libfreetype6_2.4.4-2ubuntu1.1_i386.deb
[16:00] <auk> 64bit version
[16:00] <Franky> ActionParsnip: Is there a way I can get Ubuntu off of my computer and still keep Xubuntu(Along with XFCE)
[16:00] <bullgard6> usalabs_: hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> frybye: it's   nvidia-xconfig     not nvidia-config
[16:01] <krazed> 2.5MB/s for the kubuntu 11.10 torrent is what's up!
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> Franky: you could uninstall unity and it may help, it won't make your system faster
[16:01] <dr_willis> nvidia-bug-report.sh  nvidia-detector       nvidia-settings       nvidia-smi            nvidia-xconfig
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> krazed: seeders
[16:01] <krazed> ActionParsnip, I know! But, it's spectacular.
[16:01] <dr_willis> Franky:  fire up the package manager and start uninstalling the ubuntu/gnome packages.. (its a pain)
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> krazed: maye it will pick up
[16:02] <usalabs_> bullgard6 thanks
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> krazed: or is 2.5Mb/s your bandwidth?
[16:02] <krazed> ActionParsnip, pick up? 2.4mb/s is fast as hell. Why would I need any faster?
[16:02] <dtmbmw325i> Franky: sudo apt-get --purge remove ubuntu-desktop
[16:02] <frybye> ActionParsnip: that was just a typo right now - been using nvidia-xconfig all along and command no found..
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> krazed: sorry, 50Mb connection here
[16:02] <dr_willis>    /usr/bin/nvidia-xconfig
[16:02] <krazed> ActionParsnip, :-(. Corporate? I live in a suburban area, regular cable.
[16:03] <dtmbmw325i> Franky back up first
[16:03] <auk> Franky: Use apt-get to uninstall ubuntu-desktop        IF it's there.           But it's exactly like ActionParsnip mentioned, it will not make your system any faster.        You can try this:  http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/       If you like Gnome3 AND The old gnome2 interface.  http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/?page_id=61
[16:03] <karel_ff> ActionParsnip: thx. Does this mean there's something wrong in the deb package repositories? Afaict the  -dev package version is trailing behind
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> krazed: think abouot all the users seeding their ISO whom use kubuntu, healthy torrent  == fast transfer ;)
[16:03] <Franky> dtmbmw325i: If I do that, will I still have Xubuntu and XFCE?
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> auk: uninstalling ubuntu-desktop does nothing, its a metapackage
[16:03] <auk> Franky: I usually use Lubuntu on my opld machine since it's not designed for applications of today.
[16:04] <auk> ActionParsnip: Ah right, he don't like unity? o_O
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> auk: cinammon isn't supported here so users with problems won't be helped
[16:04] <frybye> ActionParsnip:  nvidia-xconfig  "command not found?"
[16:04] <Franky> auk: XFCE is perfect for me but I'll keep that in mind :) Thanks
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> frybye: did you run the command I gave?
[16:04] <tjf> How do I go about flashing my BIOS on Ubuntu?
[16:04] <krazed> Unity is the devil. :-(
[16:04] <dtmbmw325i> Franky: just make sure you backup first. Image your disk and then run the command
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> tjf: what manufacturer of the system?
[16:04] <auk> krazed: What's wrong with Unity?
[16:04] <frybye> ActionParsnip: no because I had already installed it with synaptic
[16:05] <tjf> ActionParsnip: Lenovo G550
[16:05] <tjf> krazed: I cannot agree more.
[16:05] <auk> I'm using it right now on my Mint Desktop. (Weird? Yes, but unity pwns).
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> tjf: dell have a bios flasher which runs in Ubuntu, not sure about other systems
[16:05] <frybye> ActionParsnip: but of course i will run the command now...
[16:05] <krazed> auk, The interface just isn't at all what I'm looking for. Kubuntu offers a great solution though, so it's okay.
[16:05] <auk> I'm so happy I purchased this new machine I custom built.
[16:05] <Franky> dtmbmw325i: If I do that I'll still have XFCE, right? If so can I back up my files on to a USB.
[16:05] <bastidrazor> dtmbmw325i: Franky the ubuntu-desktop package is not going to remove anything. its just a meta package
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> frybye: that is a later version than the one in the repos
[16:06] <dtmbmw325i> bastidrazor: thats what the purge does
[16:06] <frybye> ActionParsnip: do I have to uninstall the older one first?
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> frybye: no, it will simply upgrade  it
[16:06] <frybye> good..
[16:06] <Franky> bastidrazor: sweet. Will it free up a little bit of space for me to use for updates, plugins, etc.?
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> Franky: could just pull down the xubuntu ISO and reinstall clean
[16:06] <tjf> ActionParsnip: do you know if it'll work for non-Dell computers?
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> tjf: no, its a dell tool
[16:07] <bastidrazor> Franky: about 64k
[16:07] <Franky> ActionParsnip: can I do that without a boot disk? and will XFCE be included on that
[16:07] <idarkside> anyone knw bout unreal and anope?
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> Franky: how do you mean without a boot disk?
[16:08] <Schrodinger`Cat> hey
[16:08] <bullgard6> '~$ gunzip /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser.1.gz;  gzip: /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser.1.gz: Too many levels of symbolic links' --  How to deal with this?
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> Franky: xubuntu uses xfce by default
[16:08] <Franky> ActionParsnip: I mean where you put in a disk into the computer to boot an operation system installer.
[16:08] <bastidrazor> dtmbmw325i: purge does help when removing a meta package.
[16:08] <Franky> operating system I mean
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> Franky: you will need it to install a clean xfce based ubuntu, you could sit and hack out the Unity stuff but I'm not sure how long it will take, both methods have pros and cons
[16:09] <auk> krazed: I didn't like unity at first, but these peeps updated it and now I love it, it       reminds me of windows 7's taskbar, but with a twist and less pixels ued on my screen for menus and toolbars.
[16:09] <Franky> ActionParsnip: ok lol. How do I download Xubuntu and start fresh (without Ubuntu)?
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> Franky: you could use http://packages.ubuntu.com    to compare the contents of the metapackages and remove what is unique from ubuntu-desktop
[16:10] <ericus> sudipta: http://shuffleos.com/3557/how-to-enable-alt-f2-shortcut-gnome-shell-ubuntu-11-10/
[16:10] <ericus> oops
[16:10] <auk> Franky: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[16:10] <auk> I hate restarting. xD
[16:10] <frybye> ActionParsnip: it said that I already had the newest version and that a load of other stuff was installed and not necessary and I should use apt-get autoremove - which I have done but nvidia-xconfig is still - command not found (in German...)
[16:10] <Franky> auk: Will that also delete Ubuntu (like I wanted) I just want one little distro on my comp. not two :) Saves me room
[16:10] <dtmbmw325i> bastidrazor: Franky: what about "sudo tasksel"
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> Franky: download the ISO, MD5 test and make an install media, then delete your ubuntu partitions and install to the free space. Be SURE you have everything you ned BACKED UP so you don't lose any data
[16:11] <Random832> do you know what could cause ubuntu to get in a state where it's - at boot - in a video mode that my monitor doesn't support until I blindly hit enter?
[16:11] <Franky> ActionParsnip: How do I go about doing that (sorry for sounding stupid but this is my first time using Linux)
[16:12] <auk> Franky: Not really.              Actually, the truth is, there's no real heavy differences between the ubuntu distros, except for default installed apps,      and some dedicated distro flavored configs.
[16:12] <ubukou> i seem to be loading cairo dock multiple times..running xfce and i have installed unity and kde alogside.. could it be that KDE XFCE and GNOME are all loading their startup aplications?
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> Franky: doing what?
[16:12] <Franky> ActionParsnip: Installing Xubuntu and deleting the Ubuntu partitions
[16:13] <Hapos> Hello. I am trying to find the best linux release for me, is there anyone to help me choose the right one?
[16:13] <khalid_> hi
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> Franky: same way you installed it, just using a different ISO...
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> Hapos: what hardware do you have?
[16:13] <auk> Franky: Okay, what you do is this.        1. Figure out if your computer is 32bit OS or a 64bit OS (Actually, machine).           2. Decide on how you want to install Xubuntu.         CD disk or USB drive?                        3.      You then BURN CD or copy Xubuntu to your USB flash drive and    restart your computer to boot into the CD or USB.
[16:13] <frybye> ActionParsnip: does the nvidia card have to be physically installed - (have not yet done it - cos that messes the screen...)
[16:13] <Hapos> My hardware is: Core 2 duo E7400, gpu: gtx460 1gb, 4gb of ram ddr2, 1TB HDD
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> frybye: as far as I am aware no, but possibly. I've not used it without the hardware present
[16:14] <ubukou> hapos what are you running now ?
[16:14] <idarkside> anyone knw bout unreal and anope?
[16:15] <Franky> auk: Sweet :) i have a 32 bit. Which program would be best for ripping the Xubuntu onto my USB. I used Pendrive. Also, where would the best place to get the OS file be? Which website?
[16:15] <Hapos> ubukou atm I am running windows7 ultimate 64bit
[16:15] <frybye> ActionParsnip: but you see my problem - nvidia card in pc = not useable screen...
[16:15] <ubukou> ever used linux ?
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> Hapos: nice, any of them will do, you have a fine system which is more than any ubuntu needs, so take your pick
[16:15] <Trumbun> hi, I am trying to install ubuntu server to try it out. I wish to dual boot it with my windows setup. the hard disk has some unpartioned space. how can I do it?
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> frybye: add the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[16:15] <ubukou> Hapos, ever used linux?
[16:15] <Hapos> ubukou yeah I had ubuntu in the past for a while
[16:15] <frybye> ok...
[16:15] <padd173> How do I set available locales for my ubuntu server machine?
[16:16] <Hapos> ubukou I am mainly programming in Java and C++ and I am also a gamer. But I dunno which linux distro to pick :p
[16:16] <ubukou> i d say starting with ubuntu is a safe choice.. very good community support.
[16:17] <Franky> auk: which site can I download the OS from?
[16:17] <auk> Franky: Unetbootin, for linux and windows: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/                      If you're on Ubuntu right now, just push CTRL+ALT+T    and wait for terminal window to pop up, then run this command: sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[16:17] <ubukou> Hapos, gaming isnt always easy in linux... there are many emulators but for gaming i would suggest a dual boot...
[16:17] <padd173> Franky: ubuntu.com
[16:17] <ubukou> Hapos, thats just me tho...
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> !torrents | Franky
[16:18] <auk> Franky: http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/          To get Xubuntu.
[16:18] <holstein> Franky: i would just google clearly which one you want "download xubuntu" for example, and go for the link that is from xubuntu.org .. http://xubuntu.org/ for example
[16:18] <Hapos> ubukou um yeah I've experienced some problems in the past, but ummmm I am not such a fanatic gamer, WoW is just fine for me. And I think Wine will be more than enough for WoW :P Do you think Gentoo will be better for Java coding?
[16:18] <Franky> auk: can I use the terminal in XFCE to get unebootin?
[16:18] <SilentD97> I think some people need to learn how to use Google.
[16:18] <holstein> Franky: im unclear as to what you hae done so far.. have you installed several ubuntu's?
[16:19] <auk> Franky: Yes.       (You can also /safely/ assume that all terminals are the same for any linux distro).
[16:19] <holstein> you dont need to do that really... you can have ubuntu with XFCE and LXDE for example and choose between them at boot
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> Hapos: WoW runs wine really well
[16:19] <holstein> all the ubuntu's are bascially the same as far as packages, its just these cusomizations that make the difference Franky
[16:20] <auk> Franky: At least, it functions similarly. So just apt-get install unetbootin               (The word sudo     means to do this as an ADMIN, under root priveledges).
[16:20] <ubukou> Hapos, i have never loaded a game on ubuntu successfully.. i havent tryied really hard.. im sure some people have been able to load many game... as for programing i am not the best one in here to answer you...
[16:20] <holstein> you dont have to have ubuntu and xubuntu insatlled, you can have ubuntu and install XFCE and choose between them... and if thats the case, you really wont save that much hard drive space removing unity
[16:20] <Franky> holstein: Okay. So I downloaded Ubuntu a few days ago to my USB. I booted my USB to the comp.  installed Ubuntu. It was to slow for me so my cousin (an expert in Linux) gave me a code to get Xubuntu and now I have ubuntu and xubuntu. I want to just have xubuntu
[16:20] <SilentD97> I'm in the market for a laptop today. Any brands that cooperate particularly well with Ubuntu?
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Hapos: I suggest you use something like youtube and look at kubuntu, Ubuntu and Xubuntu    to see which desktop appeals
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> SilentD97: System76
[16:21] <dtmbmw325i> If you run sudo tasksel you can choose what you want and don't want on your system
[16:21] <holstein> Franky: OK... but that does *not* account for the space you are reproting
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> !hcl  | SilentD97
[16:21] <holstein> reporting*
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> SilentD97: http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[16:21] <Franky> auk: and unebootin is a program in which I can put OS's on my USB to boot it?
[16:21] <Franky> Holstein: I know, I
[16:21] <dtmbmw325i> !tasksel
[16:21] <Franky> Holstein: I'm stupid with this. lol
[16:21] <auk> Franky: Ubuntu and Xubuntu is pretty much the same (Xubuntu based on Ubuntu.         Ubuntu and Xubuntu based on Debian).
[16:21] <holstein> Franky: i would expect ubuntu to take up about 6gb's and xubuntu a little less.. i wouldnt expect to see much space gained from removing unity Franky
[16:22] <Hapos> ActionParsnip: Yeah I will and thank you for the info. I know it's an ubuntu char here, but do you think Gentoo would be better than Ubuntu for Java and C++ programming?
[16:22] <SteM> hello, how can i close Pidgin ?? It is always active!
[16:22] <SilentD97> I've looked at what System76 has to offer and it's great but I'm looking for a bit more battery life.
[16:22] <Franky> holstein: Okay.
[16:22] <auk> Franky: What really happened is that you only installed a few Ubuntu's version of gnome, with a twist.           Just ignore ubuntu? o_O
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> SilentD97  http://zareason.com/shop/Laptops/
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> Hapos: the compiler would be more optimised for your CPU but Ubuntu willbe easier to setup and use
[16:23] <SilentD97> I was looking at a couple lightweight Asus laptops. thoughts?
[16:23] <ubukou> anyone knows if it is possible KDE UNITY and XFCE to be loading Cairo simultaneously on login? when i open XFCE i have 3 cairo docks one over the other...settings show 1 cairo dock configured... ActionParsnip any insights?
[16:23] <holstein> Franky: if you are asking "i am running out of hard drive space, and i want to removing unity, because the installation is taking up 37GB's and i want to reclaim space" remvoving unity will *not* save that much space
[16:23] <Hapos> ActionParsnip: Thank you very much for your information
[16:23] <Franky> auk: I'm sorry. I'm getting mixed up :( This is so complicated. I just don't want Ubuntu anymore. I just want Xubuntu (which I have also)
[16:23] <auk> Franky: The easiest solution is to put Xubuntu in your USB, via, unetbootin and install Xubuntu.
[16:23] <Tm_T> SilentD97: try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic perhaps (:
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> ubukou: sure, Cairo dock just needs compositing, the DE is moot
[16:23] <auk> Franky: A fresh clean install.
[16:23] <SilentD97> Alright.
[16:23] <auk> Like you previously did.
[16:24] <Franky> auk: So the code you have me for unebootin (what is unebootin?)
[16:24] <Franky> auk: Yes, to sum it all up, I want a fresh clean install of Xubuntu
[16:24] <holstein> yup... a agree with auk ... wipe what you already did and just reinstall Franky .. i think you have something totally different going on that is taking up so much space
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> !unetbootin
[16:25] <Franky> holstein: I agree with you there too
[16:25] <holstein> and you get the xubuntu *official* iso's from http://xubuntu.org/
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> FrankLv: it will give a cleaner OS.
[16:25] <Trumbun> in ubuntu desktop durin installation i can set up the partions that i want. on ubuntu server 12.04 Getting either guided - ie use entire disk or manual. in manual option: guided partitioning, configure iscsi volumes. the full disk.
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> holstein: as long as it passed MD5 from the official hashes, the source is irrelevant
[16:26] <ubukou> ActionParsnip, i can close 2 bars and be left with one if i want... compositing involves graphics right ?
[16:26] <Franky> Alrighty. I think I'm all set to go. Thank you auk, holstein, and actionParsnip. I think I understand now :) sorry for bothering
[16:26] <auk> Franky: "Command" is the proper term for it. Not code.         sudo apt-get install unetbootin                           This is what unetbootin is:  http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3a/Unetbootin_on_Ubuntu.png                  Just click on DISK IMAGE and pick the ISO you downloaded,          then pick the  USB flash drive letter to install this to          (Be sure to backup/wipe your USB first).
[16:26] <ubukou> ActionParsnip, there is an extention on cairo.. is that what you are refering to?
[16:26] <auk> Franky: It's cool, at least you're learning something that can be taught to others.
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> ubukou: yes, compiz and kwin provide compositing
[16:27] <Franky> auk: yep. Talk to you later
[16:27] <ubukou> ActionParsnip, i have compiz running.. i upstreamed it yesterday.. do you suppose its compiz's fault?
[16:27] <auk> WOAH SNAPS, I just realized, theres a custom  kernel option!!!! Why did I never noticed this before?
[16:27] <auk> :O
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> ubukou: fault of what?
[16:28] <ubukou> ActionParsnip, i dont thing i am running kwin.. what is it ?
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> ubukou: its the default WM in KDE
[16:28] <mint> hey i want to format my hard disk in secure way, i done this command: sudo shred -z -v /dev/sda, does this fill it with zero, MBR too?
[16:28] <ubukou> ActionParsnip, fault for having multiple cairo docks open...
[16:28] <Eximius> Gparted is failing to detect windows' partition
[16:29] <ubukou> ActionParsnip, ohhh its kde window mngr. emm .. im running gnome window manager on xfce.
[16:29] <openvoid> mint, dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdx is enough
[16:29] <zizzu> open
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> ubukou: there is no 'gnome WM', there is metacity and compiz in Gnome
[16:30] <Franky> auk: it saays 'unable to locate package unebootin when I typed to command in
[16:30] <ubukou> ActionParsnip, hmmm...
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> Franky  unetbootin, you forgot the t
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> Franky: unetbootin   you missed the t
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> snap
[16:30] <Gringoire> Hey, I have a problem with my webcam, HF Pavillion dv9000, doesn't work
[16:30] <ubukou> ActionParsnip, is there a way to find out what i am running ?
[16:30] <Gringoire> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 04f2:b023 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd Gateway USB 2.0 Webcam
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> ubukou: ps-ef | egrep 'compiz|kwin|metacity'
[16:31] <ubukou> ActionParsnip, ps ax|grep compiz    ??
[16:31] <auk> Franky: unetbootin              not unebootin :P
[16:31] <Trumbun> thanks any way. cancelling windows server installation.
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> Gringoire: does it show in cheese?
[16:31] <ubukou> ActionParsnip, oh ok
[16:31] <Gringoire> it doesn't
[16:31] <auk> Always check typos.
[16:31] <Gringoire> ** (cheese:1249): WARNING **: Device '/dev/video0' cannot capture at 640x480
[16:31] <Franky> auk: oh, eh, eh, I knew that
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> ubukou: sorry, space before the minus sign'
[16:32] <Gringoire> Actually this is more interesting, still cheese output: libv4l2: error setting pixformat: Device or resource busy
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> Gringoire: if you run:   lsusb    you will see an 8 character hex ID, use that to find guides
[16:34] <nsd_> Does anyone know how to set up a guest session account on Ubuntu 10.04 (LTS)? Evidently there is a package called gdm-guest-session that handles creating temporary files and such but it must be launched from an already-running session. I noticed that in /usr/share/gdm/guest-session there appear to be some sort of guest session scripts, but I don't know anything about them. I don't want to create a permanent user account (and, say, just call
[16:34] <nsd_> it guest) and give it no password or something like that. I like the idea of lightdm's guest user account (in the latest Ubuntu) that is created temporarily. Is there something that I can do like that?
[16:35] <pip__> does anyone know what's happened to flashvideoreplacer?  I don't seem able to find it anymore
[16:35] <nsd_> Evidently there is also a .desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions related to a guest session as well.
[16:37] <dr_willis> nsd_:  seems every release they chnge how the guest session works.. sometimes you login as a normal user. switch to 'guest' then hand  the pc over to whoever.. in 11.04 you have an actual guest user  whos settings are not saved.
[16:38] <dr_willis> or was that in 11.10  i never use the feature. :) no matter what they do people seem to always hate how it works.
[16:38] <igor_> hey guys can you help me?
[16:38] <nsd_> dr_willis: Yes, I've noticed as much. I would like to know if it is possible to have a temporary guest user log in like in 11.04/11.10, except I'm on 10.04. Like I said evidently Canonical wrote scripts to make it work... Perhaps I have to write my own solution...
[16:39] <ericus> Have I've got this right? Can I use 8GB RAM with a PAE-kernel, not 64bit?
[16:39] <ericus> Or should I go for the 64bit version?
[16:39] <ericus> Or is it still very buggy?
[16:39] <wietze> hi Im booting ubuntu from pxeboot; but when I do, for some reason I do get network, but my dns lookups fail
[16:39] <nsd_> ericus: I don't know anything about PAE but I am pretty certain that with 32 bit address pointers you can't access more than 4gb
[16:39] <wietze> can anyone tell me how I can get the dns lookup to work? the /etc/resolv.conf is sane
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> ericus: PAE kernel can access 64Gb RAM
[16:40] <Eximius> Guis
[16:40] <ubukou> ActionParsnip, hmmm ok .. i rebooted.. what i noticed is that when i choose in lightDM what Enviroment to load there is only the option of "XFCE(previous) there, i opens all the processes i had open when i halted... is there a way to kill everything on shutdown ? that is a lightDM thing ... right ?
[16:40] <Eximius> GParted cannot recognize my hdd
[16:40] <Eximius> This is seriously sirius
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> ericus: not seen a buggy 64bit install, always been the same stabilty as my 32bit installs
[16:40] <Antigone3010> hello !
[16:41] <dr_willis> ubukou:  check the xfce session management  settings. (i never use xfce)
[16:41] <dr_willis> ubukou:  its not a lightdm thing. :) its a xfce session thing.
[16:41] <dr_willis> ive seen people in here asking for that same feature to be enabled in Unity/gnome :)
[16:41] <ubukou> dr_willis, interesting thing is that it does the same thing when i load KDE...
[16:41] <ericus> ActionParsnip: even with 32bit?
[16:41] <wietze> do I need to restart anything after making changes to /etc/resolv.conf ?
[16:42] <dr_willis> ubukou:  it used to be a common feature. But ive not really looked into it in ages.
[16:42] <llutz> wietze: no
[16:42] <dr_willis> !session
[16:42] <Antigone3010> I'd like to reduce my screen resolution, but keeping the same "precision" : i mean, adding "crop bars" around the screen
[16:42] <ubukou> dr_willis, ok i ll check .. thanks a lot .
[16:43] <knjiga> Antigone3010: check your monitor menu
[16:43] <wietze> llutz: I really dont understand why my initial ubuntu environment does no dns lookups then
[16:43] <dr_willis> Antigone3010:  ive seen some monitor settings have it where it either zooms less then native res. or displays it as is. with black bars around the image.
[16:43] <wietze> if I do `nslookup' and enter teh same server as specified in /etc/resolv.conf, the lookups work
[16:43] <knjiga> my monitor does that
[16:43] <wietze> if I try to ping google.com in shell, it cannot resolv
[16:44] <llutz> wietze: grep hosts /etc/nsswitch.conf
[16:44] <Antigone3010> dr_willis, knjiga : i am on a laptop... I used to have that option on windows (nvidia drivers) but haven't found anything here
[16:44] <p3rror> Hey
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> ericus: both arch's have been fine
[16:44] <wietze> llutz: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4
[16:44] <ubukou> dr_willis, there is a setting called "automatically save session at logout" but its unckecked.. using XFCE i am getting the feeling that gnome runs alongside.. is that even possible?
[16:44] <p3rror> please i get an error when i run apt-get
[16:44] <p3rror> can you help
[16:44] <p3rror> http://paste.debian.net/154873/
[16:44] <knjiga> Antigone3010: do you use nvidia drivers?
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> wietze: try:   echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf      then retry
[16:45] <Antigone3010> knjiga, yes.
[16:45] <llutz> wietze: for a test, edit the file and change that line to read "hosts:  files dns"
[16:45] <dr_willis> ubukou:  i dont use xfce.. im not sure gnome uses the feature by default eiather
[16:46] <wietze> hmmm
[16:46] <wietze> ActionParsnip: your version worked
[16:46] <knjiga> those should allow for gpu scaling, but the option is greyed out until you change resolutuin. Maybe it isn't there in the Linux version though.
[16:46] <wietze> perhaps the resolv.conf is malformed?
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> wietze: basically your DNS sucks or you aren't getting DNS via DHCP
[16:46] <wietze> ActionParsnip: nono
[16:46] <wietze> I didnt use 8.8.8.8 :)
[16:46] <wietze> I used the one that was already in the resolv.conf
[16:47] <wietze> but I removed all other lines
[16:47] <ubukou> dr_willis, hmm i ll check on #XFCE
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> wietze: http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using.html    use that, the file is made by network manager at boot, so use that guide and the config will stick
[16:47] <ubukou> dr_willis, thanks
[16:48] <wietze> ActionParsnip: not really no :)
[16:48] <Bastian_B> Hi, I removed a file using 'sudo rm file', is there a way to retrieve it? Thanks
[16:48] <wietze> ActionParsnip: its not the dns thats not working
[16:48] <knjiga> Antigone3010: the option is greyed out in windows if you are currently in native resolution
[16:48] <wietze> its the initial config that seems to not work
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> wietze: now you have a web connection, get updated
[16:48] <dr_willis> Bastian_B:  not very easially
[16:48] <dr_willis> !undelete | Bastian_B
[16:48] <wietze> ActionParsnip: the idea is to hve a working out of teh box pxeboot
[16:48] <wietze> which it isnt, because the /etc/resolv.conf is not proper
[16:48] <wietze> or so it seems
[16:49] <Antigone3010> knjiga, well i managed to do it
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> wietze: that file is made by networ manager
[16:49] <Bastian_B> dr_willis, thanks a lot
[16:49] <Franky> do I need to reboot after installing unetbootin?
[16:49] <Antigone3010> on windows, i eman
[16:49] <MonkeyDust> Franky  no
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> wietze: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[16:49] <knjiga> Antigone3010: oh, maybe the option is absent or hidden in linux
[16:49] <wietze> ActionParsnip: oneiric
[16:49] <joelmob> im on a ubuntu 8 server, and want to install pthread and gcc-c++ support how do i do this
[16:49] <joelmob> is it possible with a sudo apt get install
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> joelmob: sure
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> joelmob  first search what you need with apt-cache search
[16:50] <wietze> ActionParsnip: the resolv.conf has
[16:50] <wietze> nameserver 'x'
[16:50] <wietze> when I change it to: nameserver x it works
[16:50] <wietze> so it seems to fall over the '''s
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> wietze: shouldn't have quotes around it
[16:51] <wietze> I wonder how I get these quotes then :o
[16:51] <Antigone3010> knjiga, oh, i found it hidden somewhere
[16:52] <Antigone3010> it worksss ! thank you very much.
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> wietze: i'd use that guide and set the DNS manually, sounds like your DHCP server is distibuting it with quotes
[16:52] <knjiga> Antigone3010: nice, np :)
[16:52] <wietze> ActionParsnip: I doubt that, all my other boxes seem to work
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> wietze: same OS?
[16:53] <wietze> same OS, different distribution
[16:53] <donavan01> I just bot a laptop and I found out it has a a miniPCIexpress slot which Im going to try ram a SSD card into, I want to load it up with Ubuntu but I dont want the system to show me the HDD (windows) and the SSD(linux) at boot I want to have to select the boot device is this easily do able or am I asking for a giant head ache
[16:53] <Franky> can I download Xubuntu in CD form and use unetbootin to transfer it to a USB?
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> wietze: maybe a thing, you need to override it
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> Franky: yes absoltely
[16:53] <tiox> Is there a way to force gnome on ncurse interface applications?
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> Franky: the CD ISO is what you transfer using unetbootin
[16:54] <Franky> ActionParsnip: Okay. I have a 32 bit computer so should I download PC(intel X86) desktop CD?
[16:54] <wietze> ActionParsnip: it seems to be https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/709364
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> Franky: yes
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> wietze: nice
[16:54] <Franky> ActionParsnip: Thank you so much :)
[16:54] <tiox> I know debconf can be forced to use GTK or QT for an interface, wondering if ncurse applications have something similar.
[16:54]  * Caspercom considers turning his mention scripts off for this channel :|
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> wietze: I use manual DNS as I have ran namebench as well as a local dnsmasq cache
[16:55] <ervis> hi all
[16:55] <wietze> ActionParsnip: I guess I have to wait for a new release before this is fixed?
[16:55] <wietze> ActionParsnip: I just want a netinstall that works out of the box; I cant tell my gf to go edit her resolv.conf manually :)
[16:55] <ervis> anyone know if Ubuntu have any plan to upgrade pootle to latest version ?
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> wietze: you don't have to, just set the DNS in network manager....
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | ervis
[17:00] <axisys> how do I rotate through all the active browser windows, while only one window is on focus instead of all windows in focus and I can barely see the content of each window in my laptop screen..
[17:00] <em> sudo apt-get install skyrim
[17:00] <em> why it doesn't work?
[17:00] <KristianDK> I'm having troubles setting up a bridged environment for KVM. I successfully have br0 running, but without "bridge_ports eth0", when i set that and run ifup br0, the entire network crashes and i have to manually edit the file by mounting the disk from another OS and changing /etc/network/interfaces
[17:00] <auronandace> em: are you kidding?
[17:00] <KristianDK> How can i debug this?
[17:01] <em> auronandace: hardly joking when it's all i need to install now
[17:01] <auronandace> em: skyrim as in the game yes?
[17:02] <em> !info skyrim
[17:02] <mongy> em, works i nwine does it not?
[17:02] <mongy> in win
[17:02] <mongy> in wine *
[17:02] <wessel> How can I create a shortcut to dubble click a .sh file and run it in a terminal?
[17:02] <em> mongy: oh that would be cool.
[17:02] <artbrut> I have a vostro 1500 laptop and why do I get the old desktop rather than the unity desktop when I boot from a 11.04 live CD or usb?
[17:03] <aBound> Isn't Skyrim only for Windows and has to be paid for?
[17:03] <auronandace> aBound: thats why i thought he was kidding
[17:03] <mongy> em, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=13667
[17:04] <aBound> auronandace, I don't think he's kidding. lol
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> mongy: I'd say it was a platinum rating, bit slow and lag on ultra setting is more than acceptable imho :)
[17:04] <aBound> em, You do know that Skyrim is for Windows right and you need to pay for the "actual game". Though if you have the physical disc you can run it within the WINE emulator.
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> aBound: Wine isn't an emulator
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> aBound: It's what wine actually stands for...
[17:05] <auronandace> aBound: wine is a compatibilty layer'
[17:06] <aBound> I noticed.
[17:06] <bullgard6> '~$ gunzip /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser.1.gz;  gzip: /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser.1.gz: Too many levels of symbolic links' --  How to deal with this?
[17:06] <Culiforge> could someon help with chroot to an unbootable installation?
[17:06] <ikonia> bullgard6: remove the level of symlinks
[17:06] <ikonia> bullgard6: use less links
[17:07] <krazed> So, I'd like to officially point out that Unity is going to make sooooooo many users switch from classic ubuntu to kubuntu.
[17:07] <KristianDK> lol
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> bullgard6: try unp
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> krazed: does it matter?
[17:08] <auronandace> krazed: good that they have a choice of desktops then
[17:08] <auronandace> krazed: do you have a support issue?
[17:08] <fling> how to make existing files 'sparse' ? without using cp/rsync/etc...
[17:08] <fling> i need an app that will make 'holes' :]
[17:08] <aBound> More or less people will realize why bother with the hassle from moving to one gui to another. :P
[17:08] <krazed> It kind've matters, just because the old gnome2 interface was aesthetically pleasing and very functional, but eh.
[17:08] <krazed> auronandace: no why
[17:09] <auronandace> krazed: this is a support channel
[17:09] <ikonia> krazed: gnome 2 is dead for all distros, it is a non-discussion
[17:09] <ikonia> krazed: use whatever desktop/distro you like, but complaining won't change anything
[17:09] <artbrut> why doesn't it boot into the unity desktop on a vostro 1500 laptop?
[17:09] <krazed> I wasn't complaining by any means, just pointing something out. I'm actually finally satisfied with my current environment.
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> krazed: what DE users use is unimportant
[17:10] <ikonia> krazed: you're not pointing anything out, you don't speak for the mass population of linux users, so you don't know what it will do
[17:10] <ikonia> krazed: keep to support discussion and there will be no problem
[17:10] <plouffe> Would clamtk be appropriate to run a virus scan on a VBox XP image?
[17:10] <ubukou> auronandace, outch :)
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> plouffe: if the image can be mounted, yes
[17:10] <ikonia> plouffe: not directly on the image file
[17:11] <aBound> Hmm, let's see if this works.
[17:11] <aBound> !topic
[17:11] <plouffe> ActionParsnip, ikonia what would I have to do?
[17:11] <krazed> ikonia: People can make observations and speak on them, sure this is a support channel and I often come here for support I was just making a statement. I don't really see why you're making a big deal about a simple comment.
[17:11] <auronandace> aBound: one can live in hope :)
[17:11] <ikonia> krazed: because it's nonsense, you don't know if people will adopt or drop uinity
[17:11] <aBound> auronandace, HA! in accordance to hopefully working. :P
[17:12] <aBound> How do you guys reference bots I noticed a lot of people doing it.
[17:12] <pfifo> /etc/enviroment is NOT respected, how can I PROPERLY set an enviorment variable
[17:12] <ikonia> !ubottu > aBound
[17:12] <ikonia> aBound: check the pm
[17:12] <ubukou> ikonia, only thing that can be said for sure is that everything new is not adopted fast.
[17:12] <ubukou> ikonia, time will tell...
[17:12] <zygoptera> pfifo: "setenv varnam value"
[17:12] <em> This is a support channel
[17:13] <ikonia> correct
[17:13] <aBound> Reading is one of my enemies. :P
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> aBound: you trigger her with !factoid    the bang makes ubottu react
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> aBound: you are reading now...
[17:13] <pfifo> zygoptera, is the permanent?
[17:13] <artbrut> The old school desktop makes it easier to find things
[17:13] <aBound> haha indeed.
[17:13] <pfifo> zygoptera, is that permanent and system wide
[17:13] <krazed> ikonia: As of right now, I've been doing a lot of reading and looking around and it seems the general consensus is that Unity still has some problems and configuration issues. I'm sure within the next 2-3 releases Unity will be a great solution, however I just feel as of now it lacks compared to both the old gnome2 environment and KDE... That's all.
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> artbrut: install xfce4 and use the xfce desktop, your Gnome apps will run there as well
[17:14] <ikonia> krazed: thanks for that pointless statment
[17:14] <zygoptera> pfifo: no, not permanent or systemwide unless you include the command in the system  rc.d init files
[17:14] <plouffe> ActionParsnip, can I just open "Open with Virus Scanner" the WinXP.vdi file?
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> plouffe: not sure, I'd ask in #vbox  to see how they are mounted
[17:14] <Dr_Willis> id be impressed if the av scanners handled vdi files
[17:14] <sda1986> Hi all, I have a Samsung 700z3a with ibrid svideo. they say i should work with it around 15W but my computer work always around 15W sometimes i can make it reach the 23W but still very high! what should i watch to make the power goes down? i use ubuntu + 3.2.2kernel
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> krazed: what you are highlighting is pointless.
[17:15] <em> krazed: I agree with all you said except that it is going to get better.
[17:15] <daiver> hi! Ubuntu Studio. How to change screen refresh rate? Via Settings->Display, only one 60Hz.
[17:15] <gyzar> join #django
[17:15] <pfifo> Hoe can I permanently set an environment variable system wide, BOTH for pre-existing variables and new variables?
[17:16] <Dr_Willis> pfifo:  one normally exports them in the /etc/bashrc or /etc/profile
[17:16] <auk> krazed: People generally complain about unity for it's look, and for the fact they're running old hardware. o_O              Gnome3 appears to be ditching old stuff.
[17:16] <pfifo> Dr_Willis, is that how ubuntu is supposed to do it? according to my info, that is not recommended
[17:16] <Dr_Willis> the term 'preexisting/new' is a bit.. well confuseing. :) you export them, they are set. child processes get them. and can change them later
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: /etc/environment
[17:17] <Dr_Willis> pfifo:  it depens on the details i imagine
[17:17] <pfifo> ActionParsnip, /etc/environment is NOT respected
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: weird
[17:17] <pfifo> Dr_Willis, I want to set a new variable JAVA_HOME, and append to the preexisting PATH
[17:18] <ubukou> krazed, thre might be someone that has configured unity in a way that is the best environment that we all have ever dreamed of... you cant know that... all we are saying is that inless you have a way to help make it better.. this is a pointless discussion.. like i said .. time will tell..
[17:18] <zygoptera> pfifo: that would be best in the bashrc file
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> pfifo:  id set it in the bash profiles then. but the Java wiki page for ubuntu may have a better place.
[17:18] <axisys> so Alt + ~ switch between windows of same application while displays the windows in thumbnail like view.. is there a way I can view them in full size like Alt + Tab used to do in the past ?
[17:18] <em> ubukou: what is the probability that Ubuntu will admit it made a mistake and stop using Unity if it doesn't get any better?
[17:19] <Dr_Willis> Unity is getting better  all the time.
[17:19] <Eximius> Help, GParted doesn't support GPT
[17:19] <ikonia> seems like a worthwhile discussion for #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:19] <pfifo> zygoptera, Dr_Willis, thats my train of thought too, but it dosent seem to be recommended according to this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[17:19] <operatorplik> opo iki?
[17:19] <dtmbmw325i>  Alt + ~  works pretty nice. I was always alt + tabbing and waiting for the screen to expand for other windows
[17:20] <zygoptera> pfifo: there will always be differences of opinion
[17:20] <Alana> HI all!!!
[17:20] <dtmbmw325i> Hello
[17:20] <Franky> I encountered yet another problem. lol. I just downloaded (or tried at least) the OS for xubuntu so I can do a clean install but it says I only have 2.5GB left when I download it. I have only downloaded Adobe Flash Player so I don't know what's taking up the space
[17:20] <pfifo> Dr_Willis, JAVA wiki says /etc/enviroment, but again, its not taking effect there
[17:20] <auronandace> Eximius: isn't that something you should complain about to the gparted devs?
[17:20] <Dr_Willis> pfifo:  check the forums and askubuntu could be some known bug.
[17:20] <dtmbmw325i> Franky run disk analyzer
[17:21] <Franky> dtbmw325i: okay. Brb
[17:21] <Eximius> Well how should I complain to them
[17:21] <axisys> dtmbmw325i: well but it shows all the windows in thumbnail size.. would be nice if I could see them in full size just like Alt + Tab used to
[17:21] <ubukou> em, there is no way ubuntu says its a mistake.. its not. took hard work to get there .. and in the process something was improved even if we cant see it. unity might be a stepping stone for something better.. was it worth the resources spent on developing it? once again, only time will tell.
[17:21] <Somelauw> Hi, I am trying to upgrade to ubuntu 11.4 but it says I am either using a prerelease or one of my packages is broken
[17:21] <Eximius> and to ubuntu devs that they don't provide a partition editor capable of handling GPT
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> Franky: did you tell the installer to use the old partitions and format them so they are blank?
[17:21] <pfifo> Dr_Willis, im willing to say its my fault since its not a shell script, but the file doesnt seem to be that hard to change
[17:21] <Somelauw> If one of my pacakages is broken, then how do I resolve it?
[17:21] <auronandace> Eximius: check their bug tracker, if there isn't support planned file a feature request
[17:22] <dtmbmw325i> ActionParsnip, it is the image he can't download I beleive
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> Somelauw: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get --reinstall install nano
[17:22] <tiox> ubukou: Time will also tell if GNOME-Shell is a sign of things to come.
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> dtmbmw325i: ahhh
[17:22] <pfifo> anyway Dr_Willis zygoptera ActionParsnip, thanks, im going with bashrc, since it actually works
[17:22] <dtmbmw325i> axisys, Im not sure
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> Franky: uninstall old kernels, will free up lots of space
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: if it works then sweet
[17:22] <Alana> I can change name of all programs, that have license GNU GPL/GNU LGPL/BSD/LBSD yes? Help please!
[17:22] <K350> Where are the Kopete settings/account info stored ?
[17:23] <auronandace> Alana: what?
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> K350  try ~/.config
[17:23] <zygoptera> Alana: why would you want to?
[17:23] <tiox> Alana: Just change their names in the menus in alacarte or change their launcher names if you installed gnome-panel and made desktop icons.
[17:23] <ubukou> Eximius, there is a bug filed. concernign that.. some people found that removing xserver-xorg-video-nouveau helped... google and read about it... i broken my setup trying to upgrtade.. use caution.
[17:23] <tiox> O wait...
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> alacarte? isnt that for gnome2? i miss alacarte!
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> K350: maybe in ~/.kde   someplace
[17:23] <tiox> Yeah, it is a GNome 2 thing.
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> !info alacarte oneiric
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> MonkeyDust:  works here for me. :)
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> !info alacarte precise
[17:24] <tiox> Well  kinda. Alacarte can modify the Gnome 3 "Classic" menu,.
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> its in Precise too...
[17:24] <Eximius> ubukou: How does removing video drivers help deal with a partition editor feature non-existance problem?
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> it alters the various .desktop files that are the same  format
[17:24] <ubukou> look how alive the chat became with a single statement about unity
[17:24] <Alana> Im developer. I want make my own OS.
[17:25] <Alana> Help please!
[17:25] <Alana> I can change name of all programs, that have license GNU GPL/GNU LGPL/BSD/LBSD yes? Help please!
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> Alana:  ask a more clear question...
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> !remaster
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> Alana  good idea, there's only about 300 active distro's
[17:25] <tiox> lol
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> Alana: see ubottus guides
[17:25] <zygoptera> The authors might call it plagiarism to rename and appropriate all their packages
[17:25] <tiox> MonkeyDust is right. Balls to making your own OS these days when just visiting distrowatch.com will give you a good idea of your competition.
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> zygoptera: its not, its one of the founding principles of the OS
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> be sort of pontless to rename 'ls' to be 'myspiffydir'
[17:26] <ubukou> Eximius, sorry wrong person.....:S
[17:26] <tiox> I don't know why ls hasn't gained a dir alias yet.
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> there is a dir  command allready in ubuntu
[17:27] <tiox> Because it's kinda confusing to be doing dir in DOSbox, or for a WIndows user coming from Windows command line to use ls instead.
[17:27] <Eximius> ubukou: lol
[17:27] <zygoptera> tiox: it's easy to make an alias
[17:27] <ubukou> Somelauw, , there is a bug filed. concernign that.. some people found that removing xserver-xorg-video-nouveau helped... google and read about it... i broken my setup trying to upgrtade.. use caution.
[17:27] <Dr_Willis> echo *     :)
[17:27] <ubukou> Eximius, thank god you didnt remove it...
[17:27] <ubukou> Eximius, :P
[17:27] <avance0242> Hello! I have a question regarding the Backtrack 5 Linux distribution, I'm having a problem with my wireless card functioning properly, without this working, it makes Backtrack useless.
[17:27] <tiox> Since when did this become a support channel?
[17:28] <tiox> Oh, lol.
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> avance0242  type /join #backtrack-linux
[17:28]  * tiox thought He was on offtopic
[17:28] <urlin2u> !backtrack > | avance0242
[17:28] <Eximius> ubukou: I'm tech savvy enought to compile my own kernel, so yeah :D
[17:28] <mongy> .
[17:28] <pfifo> can I remove crond from my system?
[17:28] <Somelauw> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/MMmvd29Q
[17:28] <zygoptera> pfifo: not a good idea
[17:29] <pfifo> zygoptera, what kind of trouble will I run into?
[17:29] <gaby_wald> irc.freenode.com
[17:29] <avance0242> okay thanks! I'll join there
[17:29] <zygoptera> pfifo: maybe your system will stop working the next time a cron job was supposed to execute?
[17:30] <Alana> OpenOffice => LibreOffice, SMPlayer => UMPlayer, RedHat => CentOS, Debian => Ubuntu, Ubuntu => ZorinOS, and Ubuntu => MySuperOS for girls. I can make it? Its legal?
[17:30] <monika> what is ubuntu??
[17:30] <pfifo> zygoptera, anything more specific than 'stop working'?
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> Somelauw: remove the opencv2 ppa as it doesn't support maverick
[17:30] <Dr_Willis> Alana:  you can install whatever apps you want on your own disrto..
[17:30] <theadmin> !ubuntu | monika, take a read
[17:30] <ubukou> Eximius, /bow
[17:31] <slainbybeats> dudes, i got a question
[17:31] <Dr_Willis> !remaster | Alana
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> Alana  monika  http://planet.ubuntu-women.org/
[17:31] <ubukou> i just used http://pastebin.com/sqESyWSK this to build docky.. anyone has any idea where it is.. doesnt seem to be in home folder...
[17:31] <slainbybeats> anything is wring with my sound... i cant change the volume via system oO
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> Somelauw: i'd also disable the http://packages.ros.org/ repo you added
[17:31] <Alana> And i can change name of programs!? its too legal?
[17:31] <urlin2u> slainbybeats, ask and if anybody know they will answer
[17:31] <zygoptera> pfifo: like schduled system functions which were expected to take place, not happening and causing things to be unstable or not function at all
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> slainbybeats: if you run:  alsamixer   can you change it there?
[17:32] <Somelauw> ActionParsnip: I think that package is the one which added depends on opencv.
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> Somelauw: could remove that, upgrade then reinstall it
[17:32] <slainbybeats> i first gotta install that mixer
[17:32] <Alana> Dr_Willis, And i can change name of programs!? its too legal?
[17:32] <Alana> Dr_Willis: And i can change name of programs!? its too legal?
[17:33] <auronandace> slainbybeats: alsamixer should be there by default
[17:33] <Somelauw> I am going to look for a way to just disable it and not remove it.
[17:33] <slainbybeats> but i can change in Rythmbox... it only doesnt work if i want to change it in ubuntu.. so i cant get really loud sounds out of that laptop
[17:33] <Alana> Please Help!
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> Alana  there's also girl-geek stuff
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> slainbybeats: the OS will tell you what you need, its part of a default install though
[17:33] <auronandace> Alana: why do you want to make your own OS?
[17:33] <Alana> MonkeyDust, where?
[17:34] <pfifo> zygoptera, how about, replacing it with a different cron daemon, do I have any options?
[17:34] <MonkeyDust> Alana  http://www.theage.com.au/it-pro/business-it/girl-geeks-to-take-over-the-world-20110923-1kox1.html
[17:34] <Alana> auronandace, and why not? and why Mark do it?
[17:34] <Somelauw> thanks
[17:34] <slainbybeats> nope, it always starts the Softwarecenter, so theres no Program
[17:34] <zygoptera> It sounds like Alana doesn't really want to make her own OS, it sounds like she just wants to change enough names so she can take credit for making an OS
[17:34] <ubukou> ActionParsnip, is there a way to remove KDE and Unity and leave only XFCE on my box without breaking it ?
[17:34] <Alana> MonkeyDust, thanks!
[17:35] <MonkeyDust> anything to please a lady
[17:35] <slainbybeats> ...
[17:35] <zygoptera> pfifo: what's wrong with the builtin cron daemon?
[17:35] <nsd_> Anyone know how to set the default gdm session? I now have a guest user account set up but I need to change it from gnome to fvwm.
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> ubukou: the only way I can think is to first remove the qt libs, the kde apps willfail deps and be marked for uninstall
[17:35] <Alana> zygoptera, jealous?
[17:35] <bahamas> hello. I'm using 64-bit ubuntu 11.04 and the sound doesn't work, except in the browser. any thoughts on how to fix this?
[17:35] <slainbybeats> i fucking cant work with that low volumes -.-
[17:35] <auronandace> Alana: so you're planning to fork linux and how many userland programs?
[17:35] <pangolin> !language | slainbybeats
[17:35] <nsd_> I see that in /usr/share/gdm/guest-session there is some magic performed with the $GDMSESSION variable but I don't know where it is set initially or what the magic does exactly. Is that set initially from gconf?
[17:35] <aBound> I forgot I was in here hehe. :P
[17:36] <nsd_> Also I am using 10.04 LTS
[17:36] <ubukou> ActionParsnip, is it recomended?
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> ubukou: you will then need to compare the 2 metapackages for ubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop to see which is unique to the ubuntu desktop and remove that
[17:36] <Alana> auronandace, openforge,...
[17:36] <pfifo> zygoptera, Ive never been too happy with it, so basicly just personal reasons. I am going to try removing it, if you want you can PM me your email and ill let you know how it works out.
[17:36] <Alana> auronandace, sourceforge
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> Alana:   your example was changeing the name of the DISTRO. not the 'programs' i think
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> ubukou: kde is Qt based, xfce and gnome are gtk based so its a great way to carve out kde
[17:36] <slainbybeats> for anyone who wants to know, i use the latest stable 11.10 release
[17:36] <jtreminio> Morning all - does anyone know of a music player that has support for youtube URLs?
[17:37] <Dr_Willis> Alana:  if you are remastering your own ubuntu, you most likely dont want to be calling it 'ubuntu' :)
[17:37] <zygoptera> pfifo: no. publish your results here, so everyone can learn from your experiment
[17:37] <slainbybeats> i love open source :D
[17:37] <auronandace> Alana: you didn't answer my question
[17:37] <gazzzzzzzzza> I want to rename everyting to be more manly
[17:37] <ubukou> ActionParsnip, so only removing kde is recomended?
[17:37] <gazzzzzzzzza> like OpenOffice just changed to LibreOffice
[17:37] <gazzzzzzzzza> So can I change it to like
[17:37] <Seven_Six_Two> I have a desktop (11.10 amd64) that isn't on the internet. I have a laptop (11.10 amd64) that can travel and connect. Without downloading the full 40GB required to use apt-mirror, I would like to update, and if possible, download some new packages. Is there a semi-easy way to do it? I'm not new...
[17:37] <nsd_> Here's a simpler question: Does anyone know if the default GDM session is set in gconf? I can't use gdmsetup because the unlock feature does not work
[17:37] <gazzzzzzzzza> superManlyWordProcessorONLYforMEN ?
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> slainbybeats: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> slainbybeats: select to upload to the server and a URL is made, what is it?
[17:38] <mwallacesd> Hi guys good morning/afternoon! If I edit the file /etc/sysctl.conf and add the line vm.swappiness=10 is it intructing the system to use how much swap according my RAM???
[17:38] <Alana> Dr_Willis, i want LibreOffice =>  MyOwnOffice, UMPlayer => MyOwnPlayer,...
[17:38] <mcl0vin> what will be a good practice to follow if i have two hdd each is 80GB...how can i set it up to where i can have ubuntu os in one drive and all user data in the other one , so that if i ever have to upgrade and it goes south like it did this morning i don't worry about backing up
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> ubukou: why would it not be?
[17:38] <gazzzzzzzzza> I want LibreOffice => ONLYFORMEN
[17:38] <Alana> auronandace, sorry bad english i :( reformulire please
[17:38] <theadmin> Alana: That's copyright infridgement and not legal.
[17:38] <urlin2u> mwallacesd, yep
[17:38] <slainbybeats> ActionParship: wait i gotta open terminal first xD
[17:38] <auronandace> Alana: are you serious?
[17:39] <gazzzzzzzzza> Hey Alana, wanna met up in real life ?
[17:39] <auronandace> Alana: why are you renaaming everything?
[17:39] <Dr_Willis> Alana:  i dont see the point in doing that either. change the menu item if you want. but its still just pointless.
[17:39] <wondering> Hello all.. I am running zorin.. Ubuntu based and I was wondering how to get the search bar in the windows 7 appearance mode??  Its there in gnome but not xp or 7
[17:39] <urlin2u> mwallacesd, it is a control of when the swap is used at points of ram use
[17:39] <Alana> I corresponded with Stallman
[17:39] <gazzzzzzzzza> Alana: I could make a mans manly distro, you could make one for the kitchen ?
[17:39] <LjL> theadmin: what, changing names to LibreOffice and things?
[17:39] <ikonia> Alana: do you need some sort of ubuntu help ?
[17:39] <drbenway> Stallman speaks to women?!
[17:39] <auronandace> !ot | Alana
[17:39] <slainbybeats> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=3e1964f6ab5fea55e745f8df11f569200c41d992
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> mcl0vin: you set the partitioning at install time. I suggest you have /, swap and /home on one of the drives, then make a partition on the othe 80Gb drive and use it as pure user data. I doubt you will need 80Gb for /  and swap
[17:40] <theadmin> wondering: We don't have those modes in Ubuntu, therefore we can't help. This is also offtopic here.
[17:40] <theadmin> LjL: Yeah, I mean, unless you make a real fork... Distributing the same thing under a different name sounds fishy
[17:40] <zygoptera> Hey mcl0vin! :) There are guides available for putting "/home" on a separate drive. That would probably work best
[17:40] <slainbybeats> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=3e1964f6ab5fea55e745f8df11f569200c41d992
[17:40] <LjL> theadmin: it's not really
[17:40] <tjf> so, now I can't enable wireless
[17:40] <ubukou> ActionParsnip,hmm sorry im not that good with these.. removing kubuntu-desktop will also remove depended packages with it.. removing ubuntu-desktop will also remove depended packages that are needed for XFCE as well?
[17:40] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: i am facing the icons-bug in lxde too with the missing transparents, do you have already a bug?
[17:40] <mcl0vin> zygoptera: link please
[17:41] <mwallacesd> urlin2u, Thank you. I Have only 512 of RAM but I want to user it as maximum before to use the SWAP, What value do you recomend???
[17:41] <urlin2u> mwallacesd, not how much but when the swap is used.
[17:41] <ubukou> ActionParsnip, hope you understand what im asking :
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: yeah reported it dude, want the link?
[17:41] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: would be great
[17:41] <theadmin> mwallacesd: Use 1024M swap
[17:41] <tjf> jockey.log says 2012-02-04 11:39:31,349 DEBUG: BroadcomWLHandler enabled(): kmod disabled, bcm43xx: blacklisted, b43: blacklisted, b43legacy: blacklisted
[17:41] <mcl0vin> ActionParsnip: can i pm you
[17:41] <Alana> stollaman said: Change the names of the programs, but leave the lists of authors
[17:41] <Alana> stollaman said: Change the names of the programs, but leave the lists of authors
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> ubukou: the metapackages don't remove their contents, they are hollow nothings
[17:41] <gazzzzzzzzza> exit
[17:41] <auronandace> Alana: why are you asking this in #ubuntu?
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxpanel/+bug/926383
[17:42] <wondering> theadmin maybe I wasn't clear in my question.  I have a search bar when I click the start menu using gnome. I can also use appearance to make the sys look like 7 or xp and it is obviously still ubuntu zorin.  But there is no search bar when I click the start or Z button..
[17:42] <Alana> auronandace, because my distr will based on Ubuntu
[17:42] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: thx
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> mcl0vin: sure, i aint got long
[17:42] <bullgard6> ActionParsnip:  unp did unpacking the .gz file. --  Thank you very much for your help.
[17:42] <LjL> Alana: this discussion would really be much better suited to #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:42] <urlin2u> mwallacesd, that is what I use, =10 you can go lower, I believe 0 means swap is not used,we get that confirmed in the channel.
[17:42] <LjL> Alana: this channel is for Ubuntu technical support, not just anything to do with Ubuntu
[17:42] <theadmin> wondering: Yeah, we don't have such "appearance modes" in Ubuntu. Actually, the only things we support here are Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu and Lubuntu, anything else is not supported.
[17:42] <auronandace> LjL: well said
[17:42] <urlin2u> shoul*
[17:42] <mongy> !swap | mwallacesd
[17:42] <meerkats> ubuntu's update manager is all grey, It prompted me to update, I did so and clicked to install the updates, and then it turned grey. Its been like that for 20 minutes, can ti be downloading and installing in the dark?
[17:42] <zygoptera> mcl0vin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendSeparateHome
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> bullgard6: unp is the daddy, extracts everything without having to remember switches for extraction of the different archives
[17:43] <wondering> theadmin I see. My bad, I thought zorin was a diriv of ubuntu and the basics where the same.. sorry
[17:43] <bullgard6> ActionParsnip:  Thank you for exlaining.
[17:43] <bullgard6> +p
[17:43] <bahamas> so, how can I debug the fact that the sound isn't working?
[17:43] <mwallacesd> I have 1024M swap theadmin, but before to start to user the swap I want the system to user 95% of my 512 RAM, I want to better perfomance... You recomend to user a value betwee 2 and 7 in this line????
[17:43]  * Dr_Willis seems to mention unp about 4 times a week. :)
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> bullgard6: should be default install imho
[17:43] <slainbybeats> ActionParsnip: Still there? got the URL?
[17:43] <auronandace> !derivatives | wondering
[17:43] <theadmin> wondering: We can't support any derivatives because we're not usually aware of changes they make. Take Jolicloud for instance, they introduce their own damn KERNEL. How are we supposed to support that
[17:43] <bullgard6> ActionParsnip: I agree.
[17:44] <tjf> I'd rather not reinstall Ubuntu but if that's the easiest way I guess I will...
[17:44] <Alana> LjL ok but please help me. Can i change name of kernel "Linux"? Linux => Mynux?
[17:44] <Alana> LjL, ok but please help me. Can i change name of kernel "Linux"? Linux => Mynux?
[17:44] <LjL> Alana: i will help you in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> theadmin  please say something to Alana
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> Alana: you do know all you are  changing is the name? Its a fairly futile project
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> Alana: what's it called; renamix?
[17:44] <Dr_Willis> 'FutileLinux"
[17:45] <theadmin> MonkeyDust: Why would I... (s)he's being horribly offtopic and annoying and I have no ban hammer. I already pointed out (s)he's offtopic
[17:45] <Alana> thanks all bb!!!
[17:45] <ubukou> ActionParsnip, sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop will do?
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> ubukou: do it, it will ONLY remove the metapackage, nothing more, nothing less
[17:46] <wondering> theadmin got it. sorry for my ignorance. maybe you can help me with something else.  I was wondering if there is an operating difference between GNU? GTK? debian ubuntu???  My Question isCan I change operating systems and still see pics and files I have created with ubuntu or zorin?
[17:46] <auronandace> ubukou: if you are using 11.10 aptiitude isn't installed by default
[17:46] <ubukou> ActionParsnip, and lightdm wont be affected by it right ?
[17:46] <user1__> hello
[17:46] <mongy> mwallacesd, set swappiness to 10, also you might want to look into using zramswap enabler which can speed things up
[17:47] <theadmin> wondering: Sorry, you didn't make ANY sense, that's not valid English at all >.< Could you PM me (we can't go offtopic here or we'll likely get banned)
[17:47] <ubukou> auronandace, so i ll just ap-get it (?)
[17:47] <jason404> I tried apt-get remove, which said that the package is not installed, but it is still there. I can still run it (transmission) how do I remove it?
[17:47] <auronandace> ubukou: yes, best to stick with apt-get
[17:47] <user1__> hello
[17:47] <ubukou> auronandace, just trying to find the right way to do it..
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> ubukou: no, only one package will be removed, you will make no change at all
[17:48] <slainbybeats> ok so if no one can help i am away..
[17:48] <mongy> jason404, did you just remove the transmission-gtk package?   try sudo apt-get autoremove --purge
[17:48] <MonkeyDust> and if you did apt-get autoremove after that?
[17:48] <MonkeyDust> ah
[17:48] <jason404> mongy: oh doesn't matter. It's transmission-daemon which is installed
[17:48] <stubuntu> the docx file just crashes when oepened with Libre office !! any solutions?
[17:48] <ubukou> auronandace, apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop you mean ?
[17:48] <auronandace> ubukou: using apt-get requires you to use sudo
[17:49] <ubukou> auronandace, i will.
[17:49] <auronandace> ubukou: i'm not sure if that would only remove the metapackage though, as others have said
[17:49] <mwallacesd> Ok mongy, I will try starting with 5 and plus++ in order to verify the best performance. =)
[17:49] <ubukou> auronandace, so apt-get remove or aptitude remove ?
[17:50] <rallias> does the minimal cd listed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD include wireless support?
[17:50] <ubukou> auronandace, from what i read aptitude is safer ?
[17:50] <auronandace> ubukou: stick to apt-get, but as for removing kde i've never done that, ask someone who has
[17:50] <auronandace> ubukou: safer how?
[17:51] <ubukou> auronandace, i read it in the forum...
[17:51] <biohazard135> ok i have a rather serious problem, ubuntu is crashing ramdomly goes back to what i think might be the kernel? black screen with loads of text
[17:51] <ubukou> auro whats the difference if i may ask..
[17:51] <biohazard135> for a second, then reloads the login screen
[17:51] <auronandace> ubukou: and who said that and what reasons did they state?
[17:51] <jason404> mongy: when I reinstall from a PPA, how can I make sure that I am installing that version
[17:51] <jason404> ?
[17:51] <kermie_> What's the command equivalent in terminal for "ip config" ?
[17:51] <rallias> ubukou I can see how someone would say that, but aptitude isn't included from meekrat on IIRC
[17:51] <biohazard135> and when i log back in, everything is gone. it just happened again and i caught the word "cups"
[17:51] <biohazard135> does it have something to do with these random crashes?
[17:51] <zygoptera> kermie_: ifconfig
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> jason404  you'll have to ask the maintainer of the ppa
[17:52] <auronandace> ubukou: apt-get is the official way, aptitude is a different tool that does the same thing (in slightly different ways)
[17:52] <kermie_> zygoptera: Do you have any idea how ubuntu enables and permits the use of ipv6 if i have a router? I am trying to determine how come i can access an ipv6 website in ubuntu, and i can not in windows 7
[17:52] <mongy> jason404, adding a ppa and install a package or upgrading will use the newer version.
[17:52] <kermie_> zygoptera: somehow ipv6 in windows 7 is autoassigned
[17:53] <jason404> MonkeyDust: but when using backports on Debian there is a switch that you can use to install the backported version. is there no equivalent for PPAs?
[17:53] <jason404> mongy: oh okay thanks
[17:53] <bullgard6> ikonia: I did check my files and could not detect how I could use less links. I think that gunzip's output was misleading in my case. --  I followed ActionParsnip's advice and I am done. --  Thank you.
[17:53] <rubst3r> hello everyone
[17:53] <theadmin> kermie_: For Windows, make sure "Internet Protcol Version 6" is marked in your connection properties, that's about all I can say, we don't support Windows here.
[17:53] <Ester123> Hey, i'm trying to choose my own command tpo run when an audio cd is inserted. how do i do it?
[17:53] <biohazard135> wait a sec, cups is a "print server"? can i just remove it thhen?
[17:53] <MonkeyDust> jason404  ppa s are not supported, it depends on how the maintainer wanted and created it
[17:53] <biohazard135> i don't print anything
[17:54] <zygoptera> kermie_: linuxes use ipv6-to-ifv4 tunnelling, so even if your router isn't set to allow ipv6 the ipv6 still gets through
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: unp is the key :)
[17:54] <Ester123> i found "Removable Media" but it's very limited.
[17:54] <kermie_> zygoptera: thanks for that information i'm sure to pass it to my friend that helps me on the windows matter
[17:55] <zygoptera> kermie_: the ipv6 to ipv4 tunnelling is also a major security breach usually, and I often wish to get rid of it
[17:55] <kermie_> fe80:: is local link?
[17:56] <kermie_> zygoptera: a server for OTTD is on ipv6 :(
[17:56] <biohazard135> anyone?
[17:57] <ubukou> auronandace, hmm ok .. so i ll stick to apt-get. http://pastebin.com/hdYLaXBR ,theres also that way according to forum staff on ubuntu forums ,but it seems a little different, in the end it also installes ubuntu desktop again.
[17:57] <holstein> biohazard135: sure.. you can remove cups.. but it wont regain much hard drive space
[17:58] <auronandace> ubukou: if i were you i'd rather reinstall
[17:58] <theadmin> ubukou: Yeah, don't you see "&& sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" at the end of your command? :D
[17:58] <biohazard135> holstien: i don't need more hdd space, i need my computer to stop crashing
[17:58] <auronandace> theadmin: yes, he just mentioned that
[17:58] <ubuntero-brazil> hi everybody. im looking for use my monitor in full resolution, its a samsung syncmaster 931bw and i canget it to full res. anyone know how to fix this? thank you in advance.
[17:59] <theadmin> auronandace: (s)he doesn't seem to understand why APT installs ubuntu-desktop again so I'm tryign to explain
[17:59] <ubukou> auronandace, i dont want ubuntu-desktop either.. i ll stick to XFCE..
[17:59] <theadmin> !purexfce | ubukou
[17:59] <holstein> biohazard135: i wouldnt expect removing cups to help with that either...
[18:00] <ubukou> theadmin, that bot know everything??? Thanks theadmin .
[18:00] <theadmin> ubukou: lol ubottu's database is pretty huge
[18:00] <theadmin> !brain | ubukou
[18:01] <tjf> i guess not a single person in here knows anything whatsoever about wireless drivers?
[18:01] <acovrig> Does anyone know how to get handbrake on kubuntu oneiric?
[18:01] <ubukou> theadmin, cool
[18:01] <tjf> acovrig: You have to download a package, then install it, I believe.
[18:02] <MonkeyDust> !ask| tjf
[18:02] <danny_> hey everytime i try to install something from the software center it says failed to download check your internet connection
[18:02] <tjf> MonkeyDust: I've asked three times.
[18:02] <danny_> im clearly on the internet
[18:02] <theadmin> acovrig: the ppa seems outdated
[18:02] <tjf> danny_: Do you have any firewalls?
[18:03] <danny_> tjf, not that i know of
[18:03] <theadmin> acovrig: Try this one: https://launchpad.net/~stebbins/+archive/handbrake-snapshots
[18:03] <danny_> tjf, we have a very basic internet setup at my house
[18:03] <acovrig> I tried, but all I find is a ppa, but the ppa is for an older version
[18:03] <theadmin> acovrig: The one I just gave seems to have the version for Oneiric
[18:04] <tjf> I'll ask again, I guesss. jockey.log says: 2012-02-04 11:39:31,349 DEBUG: BroadcomWLHandler enabled(): kmod disabled, bcm43xx: blacklisted, b43: blacklisted, b43legacy: blacklisted
[18:04] <stubuntu> the docx file just crashes when oepened with Libre office !! any solutions?
[18:04] <tjf> I've followed all the directions I found, and I still get the same error.
[18:04] <ubukou> theadmin, this site says that these removal commands were based on a default Xubuntu installation... by default i installed ubuntu, and to be honest i dont remember how i installed xfce. i might have not used install xubuntu-desktop...
[18:04] <theadmin> ubukou: It will install it for you anyway, so
[18:04] <acovrig> theadmin, I take it I run add-apt-repository on that url?
[18:05] <theadmin> acovrig: Not on the URL
[18:05] <theadmin> acovrig: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:stebbins/handbrake-snapshots
[18:05] <auronandace> ubukou: to spare the hassle you might consider just reinstalling using xubuntu cd
[18:05] <ubukou> theadmin, good point
[18:05] <Alana> HELLO!!!
[18:05] <ubukou> auronandace, i went through hell to make compiz work properly..
[18:06] <ubukou> auronandace, btw that wont be affected right ?
[18:06] <drago> salve
[18:06] <auronandace> ubukou: depends on what you are about to remove, i suspect it will
[18:06] <osse> I've installed Ubuntu Server and I want to add another user to the system with the exact same permissions/privileges as I have. Is it enough to add the new user to all the same groups as myself, or are the other conf files and such that need to be updated?
[18:06] <ubukou> auronandace, hmmm
[18:06] <theadmin> osse: You can't give the user exact same priveleges mostly because you'll have different usernames :P
[18:07] <theadmin> osse: As such, any files that have owner-specific permissions for user1 won't work with user2
[18:07] <Alana> HOW PLAY IN PERFECT WORLD IN UBUNTU??? I installed but it not start ((( HELP PLEASE!!!
[18:07] <MrMovl> hi
[18:07] <theadmin> Alana: Please visit #winehq, Windows software is NOT supported here.
[18:07] <zul0> how i should must add folder to .gtk-bookmarks if that folder have a space in name?
[18:07] <zygoptera> maybe you should rename it? :)
[18:08] <acovrig> how do i undo an add-apt-repository?
[18:08] <auronandace> Alana: i thought you were going to make a ubuntu fork? lost interest?
[18:08] <theadmin> acovrig: ppa-purge
[18:08] <theadmin> auronandace: lol, don't feed the trolls
[18:08] <Beard>  H
[18:09] <Alana> auronandace i will do!
[18:09] <osse> theadmin, ahh, of course. Well, except for that! :P
[18:09] <Alana> auronandace now i study
[18:09] <acovrig> theadmin, does that remove all, or let me select ones?
[18:09] <theadmin> osse: Then yes, you are correct, just add the new user to same groups
[18:09] <theadmin> acovrig: Read the manual page, you need to specify a ppa name to it
[18:09] <osse> theadmin, thanks!
[18:09] <Alana> HOW PLAY IN PERFECT WORLD IN UBUNTU??? I installed but it not start ((( HELP PLEASE!!!
[18:10] <theadmin> Alana: Go to #winehq
[18:10] <Alana> i go
[18:10] <Alana> they sailent(
[18:10] <theadmin> Alana: We don't support Windows software here so you will NOT receive any help from us, please stop asking.
[18:10] <auronandace> Alana: that doesn't make this wine support
[18:10] <Alana> Help!!! PLEASE!!!!
[18:11] <MrMovl> anyone here used LinuxMINT? I'm thinking about switching there, but i wonder what the difference between normal MINT and the debian-version
[18:11] <Alana> But WHY!!?!?
[18:11] <Alana> why not?
[18:11] <stubuntu> the docx file just crashes when oepened with Libre office !! any solutions?
[18:11] <Alana> i paly in UBUNTU
[18:11] <Alana> its UBUNTU channel
[18:11] <auronandace> !mint | MrMovl
[18:11] <theadmin> Alana: So? It's not an Ubuntu program. We don't support that.
[18:11] <Alana> wine UBUNTU version of official UBUNTU distro!
[18:11] <urlin2u> stubuntu, abiword reads docx you might install it.
[18:11] <Alana> UBUNTU program
[18:11] <theadmin> *sigh*
[18:11] <theadmin> !ops | Alana
[18:12] <jason404> how can I force dpkg to reinstall all files from a package? when I reinstalled it did not replace the init.d script which I stupidly deleted manually
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> Alana  you're trolling
[18:12] <theadmin> Alana: Perfect World is NOT Ubuntu software
[18:12] <auronandace> Alana: your problem is wine specific, not ubuntu specific
[18:12] <oCean> Alana: we cannot help you with programs ON wine, we can help you with installing/running wine
[18:12] <MrMovl> auronandace, is this an official channel? i though i could just talk with users here
[18:12] <stubuntu> urlin2u: is there no plugin for libre office
[18:12] <auronandace> MrMovl: its a support channel for ubuntu
[18:12] <urlin2u> stubuntu, docx can be a problem at time not sure why.
[18:13] <auronandace> !ot | MrMovl
[18:13] <MrMovl> auronandace, sorry then, i will look somewhere else
[18:13] <RealSpZ> hello
[18:13] <david`> hello.
[18:13] <auronandace> MrMovl: the chat channel is #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:14] <david`> i just installed ubuntu and my fans don't turn on ..
[18:14] <david`> i have read a lot on the net, but nothing has helped..
[18:14] <david`> what can i do :<
[18:14] <zygoptera> david`: is your acpi turned on in bios?
[18:15] <LjL> !test
[18:15] <RealSpZ> u guys any good with backtrack errors on boot?
[18:15] <LjL> !backtrack | RealSpZ
[18:16] <ikonia> RealSpZ: #backtrack-linux is the channel that can help with that
[18:16] <bencc> can I send a result of a command to stdout instead of writing to a file?
[18:16] <theadmin> bencc: Err, that's the standard behaviour.
[18:16] <Sonja> how do i customize my own keyboard?
[18:16] <RealSpZ> ty
[18:16] <bencc> pdf2svg writes the result to a file but I want to get the result back instead of creating a file
[18:16] <theadmin> bencc: Ah, probably specify "-" or &1 as the output file
[18:23] <kn100> I'm using ubuntu with gnome 3 and a strange xorg config to get it to work with my monitors. Everythings fine except loads of windows look like they're from windows 95 (all square, blocky graphics)
[18:24] <ajah> i cant login from gui session when i enter password and hit enter nothing happens
[18:24] <theadmin> kn100: Your GTK theme set to "Clearlooks"? (gnome standard theme, it falls back to it when it can't apply the one selected for whatever reason)\
[18:25] <Slart> kn100: in my experience, that happens when the theme isn't loaded properly (for one of many reasons)
[18:25] <kn100> theadmin, I'm not sure, the inbuilt theme selector in gnome 3 seems to think it's set to adwaita (the really nice gnome 3 one)
[18:25] <kn100> Anything I can try, I've tried adding a delay to the loading of gnome-settings-daemon of 5 seconds, but that made no difference
[18:26] <theadmin> kn100: Hmmm... I'm not really sure actually. lxappearance might help to figure it out
[18:26] <urlin2u> ajah, you have any back info like when installed, and is it that you just can't logini from the standard login?
[18:26] <riki> ciao
[18:26] <kn100> theadmin, I'll install that now, well I'll install lxde actually, been meaning to try it for a few months lol
[18:26] <kn100> loving gnome 3 though, just wish it would work a bit better with dual desktops.
[18:27] <ajah> urlin2u, i did the suggestion in this post because i have the sam issue http://askubuntu.com/questions/101308/xorg-segmentation-fault-seems-to-be-relevant-to-evdev/101416#101416 and then i cant log in
[18:28] <urlin2u> ajah, I can't really help here but sure to post with all the details.
[18:29] <riki> !list
[18:30] <ajah> urlin2u, thats all i downgrading all the packages and now i can log in
[18:30] <urlin2u> riki, what do you need?
[18:31] <Alina> Hi all!
[18:32] <Alina> Where ubuntu is a book of complaints to the chat rooms?
[18:32] <Alina> where you can leave a complaint to the local channel?
[18:32] <Alina> where i can leave a complaint to the local channel?
[18:32] <Alina> i can
[18:33] <oCean> Alina: /join #ubuntu-ops channel
[18:33] <Miggs> Guys, I have a problem - in 11.10 it can take a few seconds for a terminal window to redraw correctly, ajax sites don't work in Chromium and it's generally very slow. I've just reinstalled 10.04 and am not having any of these problems. In 11.10 I tried using the stock nvidia drivers, the latest and nueveau and they all behaved the same. Can anyone suggest what might be going on here?
[18:34] <zygoptera> Miggs:  are you using unity?
[18:35] <Miggs> The problems were apparent in both Unity and Gnome Shell 3.
[18:35] <F4C3> question:  has anyone ran into an issue where you can play back an mp3, but brasero nor k3b will burn it because they are having trouble reading the mp3
[18:35] <theadmin> oCean: That'd be more like something for #ubuntu-irc , don't you think? #ubuntu-ops is a place to discuss removals maybe, but not generic IRC stuff
[18:37] <F4C3> I can play all the tracks on this album download http://prettylightsmusic.com/therecordlabel/gramatik.html but cant burn it.
[18:37] <Miggs> zygoptera: I'm currently downloading 11.04 to see if the problem is present there but on my connection that's going to take a while.
[18:37] <zygoptera> Miggs: I don't know. I suppose you could try lubuntu or xubuntu
[18:38] <ajah> how to start gui session from F1?
[18:38] <Miggs> zygoptera:  I tried Mint 11 as well and had the same problem.
[18:38] <F4C3> ajah, startx?
[18:39] <urlin2u> ajah, gui session is what the desktop?
[18:39] <broimfromafrika> morning ubuntu
[18:39] <ajah> yea
[18:39] <Fost666> Bonjour
[18:39] <ajah> urlin2u, YEA
[18:39] <broimfromafrika> fost666 try ubuntu-fr.
[18:40] <broimfromafrika> fost666 : type /join #ubuntu-fr
[18:40] <Fost666> #ubuntu-fr.
[18:40] <urlin2u> ajah, cool, just clarifying.
[18:40] <broimfromafrika> guys, how do i install Windows Developer Preview from Ubuntu?
[18:41] <LjL> broimfromafrika: you don't install it "from Ubuntu", unless you mean run it in a virtual machine.
[18:41] <broimfromafrika> i want to boot it from grub
[18:41] <broimfromafrika> to install it on machine
[18:41] <broimfromafrika> @LjL.
[18:41] <pangolin> how do I get firefox to understand what to do with smb:// links?
[18:41] <urlin2u> broimfromafrika, you have a link to what you want to load?
[18:42] <LjL> broimfromafrika: then i think you need to install it first - that will overwrite GRUB - and *then* restore GRUB, and if everything works like it did with previous versions of Windows, when you restore GRUB, Windows should be detected automatically
[18:42] <LjL> !restoregrub
[18:42] <urlin2u> broimfromafrika, you want to install W8/
[18:42] <kn100> theadmin, Slart, hmn lxappearance changes the theme of its own window, but nautilus still looks horrendous, and the icontheme isn't being set either.
[18:43] <broimfromafrika> LjL: So it's simple: I have a ISO, i decompress it to a partition, and want to boot that partition with grub4dos, how?
[18:43] <broimfromafrika> urlin2u
[18:43] <Slart> kn100: I don't really know how to fix it, sorry.. every time I've had that problem a reboot has solved them
[18:43] <mister2> hey, anybody had any issues with evince not opening pages in pdfs? i'm trying to look at some pathfinder books and the pages are alternately gone...
[18:43] <LjL> broimfromafrika: oh, i wouldn't know about grub4dos
[18:43] <kn100> Slart, haha fair enough, thanks for trying <3
[18:43] <theadmin> kn100: Sorry then, that's weird. No idea
[18:43] <broimfromafrika> LjL: How do i add it to grub then?
[18:44] <broimfromafrika> LjL i have to mod the boot script and shit and then compile?
[18:44] <mister2> or anybody know of a good pdf reader that can do side by side page display without screwing up page order (for rpg books)?
[18:44] <kn100> and you theadmin
[18:44] <theadmin> kn100: As stated above, I have no idea either :( Seriously a strange problem.
[18:44] <zygoptera> mister2: what have you tried so far?
[18:44] <theadmin> mister2: Try Okular (if you don't mind KDE stuff)
[18:44] <urlin2u> broimfromafrika, what exactly is on the iso, with a link to where you got it.
[18:44] <mister2> zygoptera just evince. downloading package files is a pain on bad satellite
[18:45] <mister2> theadmin kk, will do
[18:45] <broimfromafrika> urlin2u: Win8DP
[18:45] <Dar> What is this?
[18:45] <urlin2u> broimfromafrika, so you want to install W8?
[18:45] <broimfromafrika> urlin2u: yeah
[18:45] <bobenhaus> hello anyone using Smuxi?
[18:45] <Dar> W8?
[18:45] <broimfromafrika> urlin2u: pretty much?
[18:45] <lorenzo> hi, I created an access point on ubuntu 10.04 but I can't connect to it (the other machine sees the wireless connection, tries to connect until it times out). I dont understand why. Anyone can help pleasE?
[18:45] <theadmin> Dar: Windows 8, yeah...
[18:46] <LjL> broimfromafrika: mind the language please. as far as i know, you shouldn't *need* to add it to GRUB, it should be auto-detected. unless Windows 8 doesn't get detected yet, not sure about that.
[18:46] <broimfromafrika> Dar: Windows 6.2
[18:46] <urlin2u> broimfromafrika, you don't have to load grub the disc if correct can be booted for install.
[18:46] <zwoxyz> I have windows 6
[18:46] <Beard> H
[18:46] <broimfromafrika> urlin2u, i don't want to use usb/dvd
[18:46] <theadmin> LjL: win8 uses some *totally* weird boot mechanism (it never shuts down, all it does is actually hibernate to it's own boot partition), so...
[18:46] <bobenhaus> anyne know how to stop smuxi from logging into all these differnet channels?
[18:46] <broimfromafrika> urlin2u, i want to use a partition
[18:46] <LjL> theadmin: doh
[18:47] <drbenway> l
[18:47] <pangolin> how do I get firefox to understand what to do with smb:// links?
[18:47] <urlin2u> broimfromafrika, your in the wrong channel type /join ##windows
[18:47] <mister2> theadmin: is that because they don't want to play nice with otehr os'?
[18:47] <broimfromafrika> theadmin: It's microsoft bro
[18:47] <broimfromafrika> urlin2u It's ubuntu ! not windows
[18:47] <theadmin> mister2: Nah, mainly cause it's intended for tablets and such a mechanism is *extremely* fast.
[18:47] <theadmin> broimfromafrika: That'd be sis :P
[18:47] <broimfromafrika> urlin2u grub=gnu
[18:47] <urlin2u> broimfromafrika, you want to install W8 to  a partition right?
[18:48] <mister2> theadmin ah, makes sense... seems awful for desktop machines though. no way to disable it?
[18:48] <broimfromafrika> urlin2u, using ubuntu, and grubloader
[18:48] <urlin2u> broimfromafrika, why?
[18:48] <broimfromafrika> urlin2u: My DVD drive can't write unfourtunately
[18:48] <broimfromafrika> urlin2u: it's screwing up
[18:48] <skilz> How do I check what login manager im using>
[18:48] <theadmin> mister2: None. Technically, it should be possible to load Windows 8 the same way as Windows 7 via GRUB, that is make the partition active, rootnoverify it and then chainload. But autodetection fails
[18:48] <skilz> I cant remember
[18:49] <urlin2u> broimfromafrika, hold on I will try to find y=the link.
[18:49] <zygoptera> does anyone know the right mount options to mount one of microsoft's newer udf-formatted install dvds?
[18:49] <skilz> I want to change the theme
[18:49] <broimfromafrika> urlin2u: I have it arleady
[18:49] <mister2> theadmin okular works! thank you very much :D
[18:49] <broimfromafrika> urlin2u: can't copy grub to / :( it's RO
[18:49] <broimfromafrika> urlin2u: that means readonly
[18:49] <theadmin> mister2: No problem :)
[18:49] <theadmin> mister2: Adobe Reader works too btw :P
[18:50] <broimfromafrika> theadmin: Adobe Reader sucks
[18:50] <theadmin> broimfromafrika: Can't argue with that
[18:50] <mister2> theadmin yeah but that's like a 60 meg download :P
[18:50] <clouder`grr> what are the chances I can upgrade from one LTS to another without to much grief?
[18:50] <broimfromafrika> theadmin: I use nitro reader
[18:50] <bobenhaus> hello. does anyone know how to make list view in the filemanager?
[18:50] <clouder`grr> too*
[18:50] <Alina> u can insert iso or img image in grub
[18:50] <broimfromafrika> guiiiez
[18:50] <theadmin> mister2: Oh, wow, really, is it? I had to use it because Evince on Windows is a failure and to install Okular on Windows I have to go through a ton of mess, and never realized it's that huge
[18:51] <broimfromafrika> how do i make /dev/sda1 read/write? (rw)
[18:51] <Alina> LiveCd in grub
[18:51] <theadmin> Alina: ISO yes, IMG... probably
[18:51] <broimfromafrika> please guiiiezz
[18:51] <theadmin> broimfromafrika: mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda1
[18:51] <Alina> img to
[18:51] <Alina> i do it
[18:51] <urlin2u> broimfromafrika, look here it might have what you want.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549847
[18:51] <Alina> all good
[18:51] <mister2> theadmin: i use foxit on windows, pretty good experience with that except getting dual display right is a pain. okular did it wonderfully though, so thank you!! :D
[18:51] <broimfromafrika> theadmin: doesn't work
[18:51] <Alina> dos loading
[18:51] <theadmin> mister2: May I pm you?
[18:51] <theadmin> broimfromafrika: Need sudo in front of that unless you are root
[18:52] <broimfromafrika> theadmin I added sudo too
[18:52] <ubukou> theadmin, unfortunately none of the commands work.. Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.  any ideas?
[18:52] <theadmin> ubukou: Sorry, uh, what command(s) return that?
[18:52] <lorenzo> clouder`grr, in theory, an upgrade from LTS to LTS is supported, in practice I would personally go for a fresh install
[18:52] <urlin2u> broimfromafrika, I would post a thread at that site what you want is probably not going to get answered here, just a heads up really.
[18:52] <ubukou> apt-get remove
[18:52] <broimfromafrika> urlin2u: I'll try.
[18:52] <ubukou> theadmin, apt-get remove
[18:53] <broimfromafrika> urlin2u: Thanks alot
[18:53] <theadmin> ubukou: ...Never saw anything like that... Sorry, no idea
[18:53] <Alina> If u using Windows too then u can use grub4dos
[18:53] <urlin2u> broimfromafrika, I hope it could be here but yah never know.
[18:53] <urlin2u> broimfromafrika, no nproblem.
[18:53] <Alina> theadmin u admin?
[18:53] <ubukou> theadmin, i see it a lot lately.. the reason why i did a clean install was that command.
[18:53] <theadmin> Alina: You mean here on #ubuntu? Nah.
[18:54] <Alina> ok
[18:55] <rzec> I know you can give certain users sudo access (to either everything or certain scripts) but can the same be done to users of a certain group?
[18:55] <theadmin> rzec: Sure, just the same way as users. But instead of "username" in sudoers, use "%groupname"
[18:56] <rzec> theadmin: cool, thanks
[18:56] <Flannel> rzec: That's already set up by default, actually.  It gives everyone in the 'admin' group access to sudo for everything.
[18:56] <theadmin> Flannel: Yeah, but other groups with limited access may be wanted depending on the setup :)
[18:57] <meerkats> are .tar.bz2 dangerous for ubuntu?
[18:57] <theadmin> meerkats: That's an... archive.
[18:57] <theadmin> meerkats: It all depends on what's inside lol
[18:57] <Flannel> theadmin: er, yes.  But the point is he can use that as an example.
[18:57] <theadmin> Flannel: Ah indeed
[18:58] <zygoptera> meerkats: what kind of doom were you expecting?
[18:58] <meerkats> zygoptera, the nuking of my craptop :)
[18:58] <Zulfan> hello
[18:59] <Nach0z> hey guys got a question, how can I configure virtualbox to use a partition on my hard drive rather than a virtual machine?
[18:59] <zygoptera> meerkats: a tar.bz2 file would be unlikely to cause that
[18:59] <Zulfan> someone can help how to instal driver for acer aspire one d255
[18:59] <krazed> Which media player is best in sync with an iPhone 4S for linux? Anything on the same level?
[19:00] <theadmin> Nach0z: VBoxManage internalcommands createrawvmdk -rawdisk /dev/sda -partitions 1,5,7,9,6 -filename lol.vdi # And then load "lol.vdi" to the vm. If you need access to the whole drive rather than separate partitions, just don't use the -partitions flag
[19:01] <Alina> Please tell me hosting an open picture. Pictures have license Creative Commons?
[19:01] <bobenhaus> with 4gb of memory should I run 32 or 64bit ubuntu?
[19:01] <theadmin> bobenhaus: 64.
[19:01] <bobenhaus> theadmin:  is 4gb enough?
[19:01] <theadmin> bobenhaus: 32-bit only does 2.8, if that's enough for you then you're welcome to use the 32-bit one :D
[19:02] <theadmin> bobenhaus: "enough" for what?
[19:02] <theadmin> bobenhaus: Minimal RAM requirement for Ubuntu is 512M
[19:02] <Nach0z> theadmin: thanks. does that work with LVM partitions as well?
[19:02] <bobenhaus> theadmin: Normal everyday use
[19:02] <theadmin> bobenhaus: Way more than enough lol :)
[19:02] <Zulfan> how to instal driver on ubuntu for acer aspire one d255?
[19:02] <theadmin> Nach0z: I'm not so sure about that. Probably not.
[19:02] <bobenhaus> theadmin:  even 64bit ubuntu?
[19:02] <Nach0z> theadmin: ah. blarg.
[19:02] <theadmin> bobenhaus: Yeah, it doesn't consume more memory or anything
[19:02] <Alina> [23:01] == xsphere [~xshpere@c-76-120-12-218.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [23:01] <theadmin> bobenhaus: 64. [23:01] == goldcityman [~goldcitym@host113-199-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu [23:01] == edthix [~edthix@114.115.50.60.klj04-home.tm.net.my] has joined #ubuntu [23:01] <bobenhaus> theadmin:  is 4gb enough? [23:01] <theadmin> bobenhaus: 32-bit only does 2.8, if that's enough for you then you'r
[19:03] <Alina> woops
[19:03] <bobenhaus> theadmin: how is the compatiblity with app and 64bit?
[19:03] <Alina> Please tell me hosting an open picture. Pictures have license Creative Commons?
[19:03] <vita_> ciao
[19:03] <Alina> Who know?
[19:03] <Alina> PLEASE HELP!!!
[19:03] <theadmin> bobenhaus: Pretty stable. Some apps still are incompatible (3rd party stuff like games mostly), but most apps work just great in 64-bit
[19:03] <Zulfan> ??
[19:04] <bobenhaus> theadmin:  How about wine and games :)
[19:04] <theadmin> bobenhaus: wine is somewhat of a mess with 64-bit because if you run pure 64-bit wine you need 64-bit windows apps. If you use the multilib version (which I beleive is in the repos) you can use 32-bit ones just fine though
[19:05] <bobenhaus> theadmin:  Thanks and I will consider :)
[19:05] <Monona> How do I boot into a crashed hard drive so that I can retrieve unsaved files?  Specifically, a recording project in Ardour on a computer running Lucid that crashed mid-recording.
[19:05] <theadmin> bobenhaus: Try both, see which seems to work best for you
[19:05] <Zulfan> theadmin : can you help me?
[19:06] <mcl0vin> is there anyway in ubuntu 11.10 i can move the lunch bar in the left side
[19:06] <bobenhaus> theadmin: I will thanks
[19:06] <theadmin> Zulfan: Likely not. You haven't even asked a question.
[19:06] <Alina> ok bb hare!
[19:06] <theadmin> Zulfan: Oh, sorry, I see it now
[19:06] <theadmin> Zulfan: Um... What kind of a driver
[19:06] <Zulfan> how to instal driver on ubuntu for acer aspire one d225
[19:07] <Zulfan> VGA : IMA 3xxxx, audio RHA, and atheros RB5b95
[19:07] <theadmin> Zulfan: If there are officially supported propertiary drivers available, Jockey will show them to you (search for "Hardware Drivers" in the main menu)
[19:07] <Bottles> Zulfan: have you tried ubuntu's proprietary drivers program?
[19:08] <Zulfan> not yet cause i'm stuck in wifi driver and usb modem driver
[19:08] <Zulfan> where i can download it manually?
[19:08] <urlin2u> Zulfan, I have the d250 what is the actual problem?
[19:09] <Zulfan> when i use driver program thats need internet connection
[19:09] <Zulfan> for internet connection i need wifi driver and usb modem driver
[19:10] <lorenzo> hi, I created an access point on ubuntu 10.04 but I can't connect to it (the other machine sees the wireless connection, tries to connect until it times out). I dont understand why. Anyone can help pleasE?
[19:11] <skilz> Is there a command to change gdm theme?
[19:11] <urlin2u> Zulfan, are you tring to get a usb wireless device working
[19:13] <Zulfan> yeah for install another driver or how to make usb modem work
[19:13] <mcl0vin> i was using nx server with my previous ubuntu 10.04 and since i move to 11.10 now i can get it to work ...what did change
[19:14] <urlin2u> Zulfan, your explantioons are really convoluted with what you want but no exact details of what you dealing with such as apps or device names.
[19:14] <urlin2u> Zulfan, your cart is before your horse metaphorically.
[19:15] <urlin2u> !pm | Zulfan
[19:16] <zgr> why avidemux and nspluginwrapper are in multiverse? They are both under GPL
[19:16] <Zulfan> ok sorry
[19:16] <urlin2u> Zulfan, I don't pm in general and not without being asked at the least.
[19:16] <urlin2u> no biggie we want to help we just have to communicate is all, Zulfan
[19:17] <Zulfan> this my first time i'm installing ubuntu, and i'm confused how to instal the driver
[19:17] <theadmin> zgr: Yeah, that's why they're there, they're opensource yet not officially supported by ubuntu devs
[19:17] <urlin2u> Zulfan, can you get wireless with the acer wireless card?
[19:18] <Zulfan> when use windows the driver is working but when use ubuntu not working
[19:18] <stimmgabel> sorry...ich suche noch...
[19:18] <zgr> theadmin: according to  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu  it shall be in universe not in multiverse
[19:18] <theadmin> zgr: Ah, I'm confusing the two
[19:18] <Zulfan> i try see this http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k#Get_the_latest_ath9k_driver <[19:18] <theadmin> stimmgabel: Deutschen Support in #ubuntu-de
[19:19] <stimmgabel> thanks!
[19:19] <theadmin> Zulfan: ath9k is preinstalled... You should be able to use wireless right away
[19:19] <lorenzo> hi, I created an access point on ubuntu 10.04 but I can't connect to it (the other machine sees the wireless connection, tries to connect until it times out). I dont understand why. Anyone can help pleasE?
[19:20] <urlin2u> Zulfan, run this command and post the wireless info.  lspci | grep -i wireless
[19:20] <hiexpo> anyone else having problem with ff 10 now the save password feature doesn't work anymore
[19:21] <Zulfan> k
[19:22] <urlin2u> Zulfan, you run it in the terminal
[19:22] <theadmin> Wow. So many complaints about Firefox recently...
[19:22] <Zulfan> yeah
[19:22] <theadmin> hiexpo: Have you considered Chrome?
[19:23] <theadmin> hiexpo: Other than that, might be best to ask in #firefox @ irc.mozilla.org
[19:23] <hiexpo> theadmin, are they one freenode also ?
[19:24] <urlin2u> hiexpo, have you looked in preferences?
[19:24] <theadmin> hiexpo: As stated, they're at irc.mozilla.org lol
[19:25] <hiexpo> urlin2u, of coarse
[19:25] <smickles> I have some files on an old /home/<user> which was encrypted. is there an easy way to delete some of them when they are mounted via ecrypt-recover-private?
[19:26] <Zulfan> urlin2u: can ask again in another time? but if the previous version by now there is a difference? oh no there seems to be wrong in the installation process :/
[19:27] <urlin2u> Zulfan, not sure I understand, that post.
[19:28] <oasisfleeting> hello?
[19:28] <skilz> How do I manually remove a ppa?
[19:28] <skilz> from the text tile
[19:28] <skilz> file
[19:29] <skilz> what file do I edit?
[19:29] <Zulfan> ok i try againt tomorrow and i will ask again how to fix my problem
[19:29] <Zulfan> gtg...
[19:29] <theadmin> skilz: They're stored under /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ -- delete the files you do not want
[19:29] <Zulfan> thx for youre help
[19:29] <fzlamn> skilz: use software source
[19:30] <skilz> thanks
[19:32] <Natetronn> Very beginner question: I installed smartgit, which took awhile to figure out because of jre path not being set. Anyway, it's on my desktop and I would like to move it somewhere more appropriate. Where do programs live that aren't not actually "installed"?
[19:33] <l3d> was wondering if there is a way to make the ubuntu 10.10 netbook look like normal 10.10 gnome
[19:33] <oasisfleeting> I see a lot of stuff on the net about linux compatibility with hardware on laptops. Is that really something that is a real concern with distros that have huge rpms these days?
[19:33] <blackarchan> hey ppla what themes can i install for unity???actualy there are themes for unity???
[19:34] <runa> hi everybody does any of you know if it is possible to use the fingerprint device to login, but without having to type the username?
[19:35] <oasisfleeting> this website lists compatible laptops with linux systems http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[19:35] <oasisfleeting> i would like to see a list of computers that fix my preferred linux distro
[19:36] <ajah> can someone look at this issue give any suggestion http://askubuntu.com/questions/101308/xorg-segmentation-fault-seems-to-be-relevant-to-evdev/101416#101416
[19:36] <scarleo> blackarchan, just google "unity themes"
[19:37] <blackarchan> scarleo: i will... btw i installed a cursor theme Azenis but on Dash is the default curson and its working in only some places
[19:37] <hroi> hi
[19:38] <hroi> I'm wondering why my gnome windows move around so slugishly... they seem a bit staggering while I grab them and move...
[19:38] <hroi> I have put window decorations to a minimum
[19:41] <ARGHh> hello! Is anybody using avant-window-navigator dock on KDE/Kubuntu?
[19:41] <szal> !anyone | ARGHh
[19:42] <ARGHh> szal, thank you sorry ;)
[19:42] <meerkats> how do I forward udp port? with firestarter?
[19:42] <szal> what..  the..  what..  my machine doesn't have an IP despite statically setting one in /etc/network/interfaces (Lucid)
[19:42] <jonathan_> hey people
[19:42] <Sempreinviaggio> Hi to all
[19:42] <bahamas> anyone have any idea why unreal tournament 2004 doesn't display an image when it starts on wine?
[19:42] <bahamas> the sound works, but there's no image
[19:43] <szal> bahamas: perhaps better to ask in ##winehq
[19:43] <ARGHh> I have a problem with kde + avant-window-navigator...i have no icons! Must I install gnome-icon? What are the dependencies?
[19:43] <metap0d> szal, #winehq *
[19:43] <hroi> ARGHh:  the more I use linux, the more I try to turn of extra graphical features... have you tried using Alt - Shift instead of this dock?
[19:43] <YankDownUnder> bahamas, Sounds like an SDL issue with WINE
[19:43] <szal> metap0d: whatever :)
[19:44] <bahamas> ok, thanks
[19:44] <spacebarbarian> trying to set up nginx with php, but my dist cant find this package apt-get install php5-fpm (im on 10.04lts"
[19:45] <ARGHh> hroi, I use a lot of utils so a dock is convenient
[19:45] <zykotick9> bahamas: are you aware there is a gnu/linux native installer for UT2004?
[19:46] <bahamas> zykotick9: one of these http://liflg.org/?catid=6&gameid=17 ?
[19:47] <zykotick9> bahamas: well that one is specific to the "Midway" edition, but yes - just like that
[19:48] <hroi> I ran the latest ATI driver installer .. and it completed without error... yet.. I find my display sluggish... the gnome windows blinking while I drag
[19:48] <hroi> Is there a way to check what graphics driver is actually in use? ... perhaps my driver did not get picked up by ubuntu
[19:49] <zykotick9> hroi: "lspci -vnvn" and find the VGA section, or check the xorg logs in /var/logs - or there is a method with lshw
[19:49] <Sempreinviaggio> Hi
[19:49] <blahblahuser1> I tried adding the Unity PPA in Oneiric but for some reason, it doesn't want to include its packages. Can anyone help?
[19:50] <bahamas> zykotick9: I've found so many different versions that I'm completely confused at this point
[19:50] <hroi> zykotick9: I get
[19:50] <hroi> zykotick9: 	Kernel driver in use: fglrx_pci
[19:51] <hroi> zykotick9:  	Kernel modules: fglrx, fglrx_updates, radeon
[19:51] <zykotick9> bahamas: well, i have the midway DVD version so the first one you sent me is the one i use (but the midway version has always been a pain)
[19:51] <zykotick9> hroi: that "Kernel drive in use: fglrx_pci" should be what it's using.
[19:52] <hroi> zykotick9:  can I probe this driver to find out if it is the new ATI driver?
[19:52] <hroi> zykotick9: perhaps it is the one that ships with ubuntu though.
[19:52] <mister2> hey, how do you run a program inside of terminal from panel in gnome? something like gnome-terminal && ssh?
[19:52] <zykotick9> hroi: ? sorry don't know.
[19:52] <zykotick9> mister2: "gnome-terminal -e foo"
[19:53] <bahamas> zykotick9: I have the GOG version
[19:53] <mister2> zykotick9 foo being the program i want to run?
[19:53] <zykotick9> mister2: yup
[19:53] <mister2> zykotick9 shweet, thanks :D
[19:53] <zykotick9> bahamas: GOG? what's that?
[19:54] <bahamas> zykotick9: http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/unreal_tournament_2004_ece
[19:55] <zykotick9> bahamas: perhaps this will help? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/blog/disturbed1-175451/native-ut2004-from-gog-com-3305/
[19:55] <Aroug> HI ALL
[19:55] <zykotick9> bahamas: looks like you will require wine, sorry man.
[19:56] <F_2012> Hi all
[19:56] <bmwerks> hi everyone,  im trying to get a  usb wimax modem to work with 11.10. could someone tell me how to implement this action: "First of all make link /lib/modules/3.0.0-12-generic/source to your kernel headers folder"
[19:56] <bahamas> zykotick9: yes, I'm trying to run it in Wine, but the image isn't working. I asked in #winehq. I'll see if I get a helpful answer
[19:57] <zykotick9> bahamas: that link actually says to use wine for the install (which you've already done)
[19:57] <mcl0vin> question : how can i trans my current /home to another drive please
[19:57] <jrogge> hi, i'm currently running os X 10.7.2 on an intel based machine and i want to dual boot ubuntu with it, but i'm confused as to how large i need to make the partition. is there a recomeneded minimum size i should use?
[19:57] <zykotick9> !movehome | mcl0vin
[19:58] <bahamas> zykotick9: ah, it also gives other instructions. I'll try those as well
[19:59] <bmwerks> frogge 20gigs is good but  even less will do you can try maybe as little as 8gigs
[19:59] <zykotick9> jrogge: that's impossible to answer (without a crystal ball), see "/msg ubottu requirements" for the bare minimum
[20:00] <zykotick9> !tab > bmwerks
[20:00] <bmwerks> im trying to get a  usb wimax modem to work with 11.10. could someone tell me how to implement this action: "First of all make link /lib/modules/3.0.0-12-generic/source to your kernel headers folder"
[20:00] <hroi> there used to be a window here for setting window decoration... I cant find it in the classic gnome wm.
[20:01] <bahamas> zykotick9: thanks for the help
[20:01] <rick__> hello
[20:01] <zykotick9> bahamas: glad to help, good luck!
[20:01] <hroi> "anybody know" the command line to start up the window decoration config?
[20:01] <rick__> my download in fire fox wont open up and run any suggestions
[20:01] <OldManMagnus> hi. i'm trying to write some simple php extenstions using this guide... http://devzone.zend.com/303/extension-writing-part-i-introduction-to-php-and-zend/#Heading6 I've got everything set up and compiled and the guide tells me to copy it to /usr/local/lib/php/extensions/ which just doesn't exist on ubuntu. i'm not having much luck finding it either. anyone here know where to put my .so files?
[20:02] <rick__> any genious knowledge out there
[20:02] <magpii> i am looking for a fireplace screensaver for ubuntu can someone point me in the right direction please?
[20:04] <rick__> can any one help get this download open
[20:04] <rick__> please
[20:04] <AlanBell> rick__: what download?
[20:04] <bullgard6> file:///usr/share/audacity/help/manual/man/edit.html: "Audacity applies edits to selected areas of the audio track. To select a particular area, click in the track and drag the shaded area with the mouse." How can I determine a relationship between the instant when a speaker begins to speak and the corresponding location on the track?
[20:05] <rick__> can anyone help get this google talk plug in download to open
[20:05] <urlin2u> magpii, getting ready for christmas early? :)
[20:05] <magpii> lol, my room is cold
[20:05] <__Alex_> rick__: What do you try to open it with?
[20:05] <AlanBell> rick__: is it a .deb file?
[20:06] <__Alex_> rick__: Or is it a random tarball?
[20:06] <rick__> i click on tools then downloads and double click the download and nothing happens
[20:06] <AlanBell> rick__: what have you downloaded specifically, what is the exact filename?
[20:06] <rick__> yep deb file
[20:06] <AlanBell> exact filename
[20:06] <__Alex_> try installing it with dpkg
[20:07] <__Alex_> sudo dpkg -i $HOME/Downloads/PKGNAME.deb
[20:07] <__Alex_> and then, sudo apt-get install -f
[20:07] <zykotick9> __Alex_: using ~ is handy to reference HOME, only one key ;)
[20:07] <rick__> google talk plugin i386.deb
[20:08] <hroi> sht. damn ATI driver.
[20:08] <packingtown> how does one create a "prepared root file system" in the form of a .bin file?
[20:08] <AlanBell> ok rick__  that should open in the software centre, which might take a little while to open
[20:08] <packingtown> like in this guide: http://www.chromebook-linux.com/2011/11/shell-script-to-easy-install-gnulinux.html
[20:08] <rick__> google-talkplugin_current_i386.deb
[20:08] <urlin2u> magpii, I see link on google but I'm, not familiar with the screensvaer now used in 11.10
[20:08] <rick__> to be exact
[20:08] <urlin2u> links
[20:09] <hroi> fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected -HW accelerated OpenGL will not work.
[20:09] <AlanBell> rick__: I take it you have 32bit ubuntu not 64bit?
[20:09] <magpii> i am on 10.04 lucid
[20:09] <rick__> its been along time and still nothing
[20:09] <rick__> yep 32
[20:09] <__Alex_> rick__: Go to terminal, and type: udo dpkg -i $HOME/Downloads/google-talkplugin_current_i386.deb"
[20:09] <rick__> ok
[20:09] <__Alex_> "sudo dpkg -i $HOME/Downloads/google-talkplugin_current_i386.deb"
[20:10] <__Alex_> It may show some errors, bot those can be fixed later
[20:10] <__Alex_> with: "sudo apt-get install -f"
[20:11] <magpii> could u post the link please? the fireplace screensavers listed under google are all exe files
[20:11] <__Alex_> and you should also type "sudo apt-get update", because google packages like to modify the repos
[20:12] <pippo1> !film
[20:12] <oasisfleeting> is apt better than yum?
[20:12] <ikonia> __Alex_: no they don't
[20:12] <urlin2u> magpii, I only saw this,  https://www.google.com/search?sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&site=webhp&source=hp&q=fireplace+screensaver+for+ubuntu&btnK=Google+Search
[20:12] <ikonia> oasisfleeting: it'just a different interface to package managment
[20:12] <rick__> type what
[20:12] <auronandace> oasisfleeting: yum is for rpm, apt is for deb
[20:12] <__Alex_> ikonia: Yes they do, they add files to /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[20:12] <rick__> sorry its gone now
[20:12] <kapz> does anyone know to install a setup.py file?
[20:13] <urlin2u> magpii, I also see wot warnings on some wot = web of trust add on for firefox
[20:13] <__Alex_> kapz: Run it with python?
[20:13] <ikonia> __Alex_: that is because that is where their packages are located and it's needed
[20:13] <theadmin> kapz: Normally, "sudo ./setup.py install"
[20:13] <kapz> need to install openerp client 6.1-rc1
[20:13] <ikonia> kapz: it's a python script, run it with python
[20:13] <magpii> thanks, same links I find, nothing for ubuntu, there all exe files
[20:13] <milothebuthar> Hey guys, I've installed gnome-shell and I'm using the "gnome classic" interface... (I dont like unity). I am unable to add icons to the desktop.... I'm also unable to insert icons to the top bar... how do I solve it?
[20:13] <kapz> oh ok, thanks you guys
[20:13] <theadmin> milothebuthar: Alt+right click
[20:13] <pixelblur> Does anyone know how to fix the copy speed in kde dolphin?
[20:13] <milothebuthar> oh
[20:13] <milothebuthar> Gee... thx
[20:14] <packingtown> how does one create a "prepared root file system" in the form of a .bin file?
[20:14] <ikonia> packingtown: you wouldn't do that
[20:14] <urlin2u> milothebuthar, in oneiric I used this link http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-create-desktop-launchers-in-ubuntu-11-10oneiric.html
[20:14] <packingtown> ikonia: why not?
[20:15] <__Alex_> rick__: Type the thing i put in quotes. Does it work/did it install?
[20:15] <ikonia> packingtown: because it's a binary format
[20:15] <krazed> What are some websites similiar to kdelook? I'm trying to find a really nice screensaver for my KDE setup but all the ones on there are pretty much ugly.
[20:15] <milothebuthar> ALso, the transparency isn't really working for the terminal... any way to fix that?
[20:16] <stefano_> i have problem to setting dwl2100ap
[20:16] <rick__> it says no such file or directory
[20:16] <packingtown> ikonia: im looking at this guide http://www.chromebook-linux.com/2011/11/shell-script-to-easy-install-gnulinux.html did i mis-speak?
[20:16] <rick__> it says
[20:17] <rick__> no such file or directory
[20:17] <kapz> Hi, I am currently installing ubuntu minimal cd on a VM...it has stopped at 'The grub-pc package failed to install on /target/ and that system won't boot w/o it being installed...help
[20:17] <ikonia> packingtown: skim reading that, it's one of the worst ideas I've read
[20:17] <__Alex_> rock__: When you try to install the .deb?
[20:17] <tiox> packingtown: You're a sinner and should be condemned. I like the idea of a "Chromebook" for people who don't know how to operate and maintain a PC, but that's all.
[20:18] <rick__> can anyone help open this download
[20:18] <ikonia> rick__: what download ?
[20:18] <zykotick9> ikonia: google talk DEB
[20:18] <kapz> Hi, I am currently installing ubuntu minimal cd on a VM...it has stopped at 'The grub-pc package failed to install on /target/ and that system won't boot w/o it being installed...help
[20:18] <rick__> google talk plug in
[20:18] <packingtown> ikonia: what's the problem?
[20:18] <ikonia> packingtown: it's a bad idea and worthless in my view
[20:18] <__Alex_> ikona: He has problems installing a package
[20:19] <ikonia> zykotick9: what's the issue with it
[20:19] <zykotick9> rick__: "cd ~/Downloads" then "sudo dpkg -i goog<TAB>"
[20:19] <zykotick9> ikonia: general usage i believe
[20:19] <ikonia> you seem to have it covered
[20:19] <rick__> i click in firefox on tools then downloads and double click downloads and nothing happens
[20:20] <packingtown> ikonia: yeah, i'm wondering why you are saying that?
[20:20] <tiox> I'll be clear: Google is doing a good thing for old folks in homes with a 24/7 internet connection. I consider this and others  "Dumb" OS's as they're limited to doing a few things, and further limited by what's available on the internet.
[20:20] <auronandace> packingtown: are you trying to install ubuntu?
[20:20] <ikonia> packingtown: because I think it's worthless, a bad idea and a poor method to install an operating system, when the normal install routine is very good
[20:21] <__Alex_> rick__: There are even GUIs for installing Debian packages, such as GDebI, you should consider installing that, for the sake of not having problems with filenames
[20:21] <packingtown> auronandace: no, i already installed ubuntu on the chromebook. I want to install a different distro onto the USB stick
[20:21] <kapz> *uses mint 12 so he wasn't trolling about python install...and not trolling about VM question as well!!
[20:21]  * tiox prefers Synaptic for installing packages from repositories
[20:21] <ikonia> kapz: mint has it's own support channel
[20:21] <ikonia> !mint > kapz
[20:21] <jimi_> If I install via wubi, can I uninstall/delete windows  and still keep ubuntu?
[20:21] <ikonia> jimi_: no
[20:21] <auronandace> packingtown: try unetbootin, and we can only support ubuntu here
[20:21] <zykotick9> jimi_: Wubi installs are inside windows, and depenedent on windows
[20:21] <__Alex_> tiox: I mean .deb files, you can't do that with Synaptic.
[20:22]  * __Alex_ prefers Aptitude for package managing
[20:22] <bullgard6> file:///usr/share/audacity/help/manual/man/edit.html: "Audacity applies edits to selected areas of the audio track. To select a particular area, click in the track and drag the shaded area with the mouse." How can I determine a relationship between the instant when a speaker begins to speak and the corresponding location on the track?
[20:22] <kapz> I wonder if you're bots! coz I mentioned specifically that I need help installing ubuntu on a VM
[20:22] <stefano__> ihave problem to setting dwl2100ap (wifi extender)
[20:22] <rick__> syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[20:22] <tiox> jimi_: Burn the installer to disk or use Universal USB Installer on WIndows, or Unetbootin on Ubuntu, to make an installer, then have the installer supercede WIndows, transferring folders and settings and stuff like that.
[20:22] <rick__> is what it said
[20:22] <ikonia> bullgard6: not an ubuntu issue
[20:23] <__Alex_> rick__: Try putting the filename in your command in quotes
[20:23] <packingtown> auronandace: thanks.
[20:23] <aar> Hi, what's the best way of doing a "speed test" in my box to check how many seconds it takes to move X mb from one directory to another within my hard drive?
[20:23] <ikonia> kapz: just didn't see that question, just saw you saying you where using mint, which is why I advised you of the mint support channel
[20:23] <tiox> Though, for more fine-grain control, and for saving executable installers for use with Wine, provided they'll work, and they don't do anything WIndows-specific, AND there are no open source alternatives, I would make a second partition with Gparted and move all the files to keep there.
[20:23] <jimi_> tiox: I will wait till my wife is home. She knows where all the dvds are. I know how to install reguarly. I thought wubi might be a media-less installation where you could install ubuntu, then ditch windows :)
[20:23] <zykotick9> aar: "time cp /foo /destination"
[20:24] <kapz> that's k ikonia...know ans to my question?
[20:24] <ikonia> kapz: what is your question ?
[20:24] <kapz> Hi, I am currently installing ubuntu minimal cd on a VM...it has stopped at 'The grub-pc package failed to install on /target/ and that system won't boot w/o it being installed...help
[20:24] <rick__> it says command not found then on the line below it it says downloads$
[20:24] <ikonia> kapz: where did you get the "ubuntu minimal" cd, I've never heard of that installer
[20:25] <tiox> jimi_: It's not too hard. If you are looking to do a Ubuntu-only install, boot into the Ubuntu CD, run a live session (Try without installing), make a partition (and shrink the others) or utilize an existing "Recovery" partition to save files and folders with.
[20:25] <zykotick9> !mini | ikonia
[20:25] <__Alex_> rick__: What are you trying to do, BTW?
[20:25] <tiox> Then when done, use the "Something else" function of the Ubuntu installer and format the partition with WIndows to install UBuntu on top of.
[20:25] <rick__> install google talk plugin
[20:25] <kapz> ikonia from ubuntu website...someone from this channel recommended me earlier
[20:25] <tiox> Might want to make another, small-ish partitoon (12GB maybe) for root (/) and save the rest for home.
[20:25] <ikonia> just seen the link zykotick9 sent
[20:25] <__Alex_> rick__: Ok, to make it simple, just type "sudo apt-get install gdebi"
[20:26] <zykotick9> ikonia: mini is basically the debian netinstall BTW
[20:26] <ikonia> kapz: based on that error, I'd say it can't write to the virtual hard disk
[20:26] <rick__> with quotes
[20:26] <ikonia> zykotick9: ahh, just a net install
[20:26] <__Alex_> rick__: no, it's a command
[20:26] <rick__> ????
[20:26] <ikonia> kapz: what device / how is your virtual disk presented to the OS ?
[20:26] <tiox> Post install, move files from the other partiont you made/used earlier, then use Gparted once more to wipe it out and have home fill the rest of the space.
[20:26] <rick__> ok
[20:26] <tiox> partition*
[20:27] <Raymond_> anybody know how to put a feedback form on a website
[20:27] <Raymond_> or know of a channel that does
[20:27] <ikonia> Raymond_: try #html channel
[20:27] <tiox> We are not #html or #css Raymond.
[20:27] <__Alex_> rick: no, go to your downloads in the file manager, right click at the doenload, and open it with GDebI
[20:27] <__Alex_> *now
[20:27] <Raymond_> thx
[20:27] <aar> zykotick9, thank you!
[20:27] <__Alex_> (Once GDebI is installed)
[20:27] <kapz> ikonia: I don't get your Q...but I created a ubuntu virtual machine with 2gb ram and 10 GB hdd space...I let it auto create the partitions and selected ubuntu-desktop as selected package..
[20:28] <rick__> ok what now
[20:28] <zykotick9> aar: if you're interested in I/O performance, you might want to try the "iotop" package (it's like top, but for I/O)
[20:28] <ikonia> kapz: ok - how is the disk presented to the virtual machine, is it seen as /dev/sda for example
[20:28] <aar> zykotick9, thanks, i'll check it out
[20:28] <__Alex_> rick: now, go to your downloads in the file manager, right click at the dwnload, and open it with GDebI
[20:28] <__Alex_> rick__:
[20:29] <tiox> I was wondering if there was a GUI for powertop.
[20:29] <__Alex_> rick__: An installer should pop up, and allow you to easily install it
[20:29] <smickles> I have some files on an old /home/<user> which was encrypted. is there an easy way to delete some of them when they are mounted via ecrypt-recover-private?
[20:29] <rick__> when i right click the open option does not highlight or do anything
[20:30] <tiox> Also, I do not know why the Gnome team hasn't placed Powertop's functionality inside the power manager yet. WOuld be some powerful stuff.
[20:30] <tiox> (Pardon the pun.)
[20:30] <Kitty_> hello
[20:30] <tiox> smickles: I am inexperienced in what you are talking about, but couldn't you simply delete the files you don't want and chown them to your user:group?
[20:31] <kapz> ikonia: I did df -h in next ttty and it shows /dev/sda1 mounted on /target with 3.1 GB space available
[20:31] <auronandace> hello Kitty_ (yes, i'm aware of the joke)
[20:31] <rick__> any ideas
[20:31] <__Alex_> rick__: well, i can't help you from there. I don't know enough information to help you
[20:31] <__Alex_> + I don't use the sime file manager as you :(
[20:31] <theadmin> Bye everyone, see y'all tomorrow *yawns*
[20:31] <tiox> auronandace: You can avoid the joke by using "Good morning"
[20:31] <ikonia> kapz: interesting, are you telling it to write to the mbr of the disk, or /dev/sda1
[20:31] <tiox> Bai.
[20:31] <rick__> what have you heard
[20:31] <alex__> hey guys, can you help me with my microphone ?
[20:32] <Kitty_> guys how to install flash player on this -.- ?
[20:32] <rick__> i can
[20:32] <auronandace> !flash | Kitty_
[20:32] <alex__> i have ubuntu 11.10 but my microphone doesn't work...
[20:32] <tiox> alex_: We are not #ubuntu and our help may be less accurate and timely.
[20:32] <ikonia> er, this is #ubuntu
[20:32] <tiox> Oops...
[20:32] <rick__> did you try mic on another pc
[20:32] <jj_> Kitty: check out an add-on for firefox called "flash-aid"
[20:32] <smickles> tiox: ecrypt-recover-private mounts them as read only :\
[20:32]  * tiox THOUGHT He was in #ubuntu-offtopic... AGAIN
[20:32] <Kitty_> tnx lets try
[20:32] <alex__> i did it on the same but in windows
[20:32] <alex__> and it works
[20:33] <kapz> ikonia: yes to MBR
[20:33] <alex__> just here not
[20:33] <ikonia> kapz: try it with a normal install CD, there should be no reason
[20:33] <ikonia> kapz: sorry, no reason for it to fail in that configuration
[20:33] <tiox> DO not know then smickles.
[20:33] <kapz> want me to provide you the screenshots
[20:33] <kapz> ok
[20:33] <alex__> i don't even see it in the input tab at settings
[20:33] <jj_> how should i come forward with a crucial suggestion for 12.04?
[20:33] <__Alex_> kapz: if it doesn't work. yust use LiLo, and you'll be Old'Skool
[20:33] <ikonia> kapz: nah, no need for a screen shot
[20:33] <ikonia> kapz: please ignore __Alex_'s suggestion
[20:34] <kapz> ok....but why?
[20:34] <rick__> im not shure im very new to this ubuntu im trying to figure out how to open a download
[20:34] <ikonia> kapz: try it with a normal installer and see if it works, it will give us an idea if there is a problem with your VM setup, or the net installer
[20:34] <ikonia> kapz: because lilo is dead and no-one uses it without a good reason
[20:34] <__Alex_> Ubuntu people don't seem to like LiLo, because it works
[20:34] <ikonia> __Alex_: no, no-one uses lilo, not "ubuntu people" - it's a dead project
[20:35] <__Alex_> I use it, and i know a lot of people that do
[20:35] <rick__> alex any help???
[20:35] <alex__> with ?
[20:35] <alex__> ur download ?
[20:35] <alex__> or my mic ?
[20:35] <rick__> me opening download pal
[20:36] <alex__> hmm i don't understand what ur problem is
[20:36] <__Alex_> rick__: Can you tell me what happens when you go to the 'open with' options?
[20:36] <alex__> just go to that directory
[20:36] <jj_> ikonia: i have a suggestion for 12.04 could you tell me how i should come forward with it?
[20:36] <rick__> i just solved my mic issue with a new mic
[20:36] <kapz> Thr reason I uses mini iso was to avoid spending bandwith downloading iso and the updating almost all packages....
[20:36] <kapz> *The
[20:36] <ikonia> jj_: it won't happen as 12.04 is in alpha
[20:36] <alex__> i don't need new one
[20:36] <alex__> mine is ok
[20:36] <ikonia> sorry beta
[20:36] <ikonia> there will be no changes
[20:36] <alex__> it works in windows
[20:37] <ikonia> kapz: I see the point.
[20:37] <rick__> i cant go to open with boptions  i click and nothing happens
[20:37] <jj_> ok, it appears there is no way in the default GUI to change monitor refresh rate
[20:37] <osse> Is there any way to make a user the member of the same groups as another (except for the other user's own group)? I.e. I can use one user as "template" of sorts when creating another?
[20:37] <ikonia> jj_: there is if the monitor/video card can be detected correctly and is suppored in linux
[20:37] <alex__> rick, use ur terminal
[20:37] <__Alex_> kapz: You can install Lilo now, and upgrade to GRUB2 later
[20:37] <jj_> so unless it is automatically interpreted correctly it is very difficult to adjust later
[20:37] <alex__> download with wget and then open it
[20:37] <rick__> type what
[20:37] <alex__> wget URL
[20:38] <alex__> ./file
[20:38] <alex__> ...
[20:38] <alex__> hey guys
[20:38] <__Alex_> kapz: Most of the times, Lilo will work, and save the time you spent downloading all the packs
[20:38] <alex__> can anyone hel me with my mic ?
[20:38] <alex__> help*
[20:38] <kapz> __Alex_: even lilo fails to install!!!! It gets near the stage to run /sbin/lilo but then I get error as lilo cannot be installed, although the error cannot be lilo related
[20:38] <vancouverWill> Hi I am having a lot of trouble using SSH tunnel to redirect one of my servers to localhost on my machine. I run it in it terminal and everything is fine but when I type in the domain nothing happens and I the default server page is displayed not the localhost. any tips?
[20:38] <jimi_> tiox: Found a DVD :)
[20:38] <jj_> ikonia: ok
[20:39] <tiox> Awesome jimi.
[20:39] <bmwerks> im trying to get a  usb wimax modem to work with 11.10. could someone tell me how to implement this action: "First of all make link /lib/modules/3.0.0-12-generic/source to your kernel headers folder"
[20:39] <rick__> type url or enter a certian url
[20:39] <__Alex_> kapz: :/. That's a really buggy machine you got there, sir
[20:39] <tiox> Now wait, what are you trying to do?
[20:39] <tiox> Because you can install UBuntu alongwise WIndows if you have the space.
[20:39] <tiox> The only thing different would be the bootloader.
[20:39] <rick__> alex??
[20:40] <alex__> yes ?
[20:40] <tiox> alongisde*
[20:40]  * tiox smashes His keyboard
[20:40] <rick__> read above
[20:40] <jj_> ikonia: my parents were with 10.10 and now upgraded to 11.10 the result was that their monitor was no longer detected automatically. it is very difficult to help them from far away. thei are missing the right side of the screen, for example the unity log out button.
[20:40] <jimi_> tiox: No, I am going to do a full system install, using the whole drive.
[20:40] <MonkeyDust> parents with ubuntu? hip!
[20:40] <__Alex_> rick__: I can't help you, because i don't use Gnome, and would lead you blindly, ask someone else, please
[20:40] <kapz> __Alex_: just a normal Ubuntu VM which has been tested to install Mint as well
[20:41] <jj_> MD: yes until this issue it has worked a lot better than windows, for 4-5 years
[20:41] <bahamas> anyone know how to get 64-bit version of libstdc++?
[20:41] <rick__> ok is thier any body out there
[20:41] <rick__> to help open download
[20:41] <bmwerks> can someone tell me how to link to the kernel header folder
[20:41] <pixelblur> Copying files from two ntfs-3g partitions are very slow in dolphin only is there any way to fix this?
[20:42] <jj_> MD: they are at the level where they always double click and open all email attachments (even exe files)
[20:42] <sinan> sounds suddenly come out only from one speaker. checked the balance in the sound settings, indicates it is at the middle. Any ideas?
[20:42] <ultrixx> bahamas: are you on a 32 bit system?
[20:42] <vancouverWill> anyone?
[20:42] <kapz> Ok...i'll try the Full ISO now...I have this urge to try Unity 5.2....also does ubuntu come with all the codecs or provided the option for it...the multimedia and flsh codecs and all
[20:42] <MonkeyDust> vancouverWill  anyone what?
[20:42] <alex__> guys my microphone doesn't work on ubuntu 11.10
[20:43] <alex__> what do i need to do ?
[20:43] <vancouverWill> MonkeyDust: Hi I am having a lot of trouble using SSH tunnel to redirect one of my servers to localhost on my machine. I run it in it terminal and everything is fine but when I type in the domain nothing happens and I the default server page is displayed not the localhost. any tips?
[20:43] <superdave_> my ubuntu box is not booting. when trying to boot to hdd, screen prints unreadable (what i assume to be) text
[20:43] <ikonia> alex__: you've said 10 times now
[20:43] <MonkeyDust> alex__  open a terminal and type alsamixer, see if you find something there
[20:43] <vancouverWill> MonkeyDust: thanks I just reposted my question
[20:43] <bahamas> ultrixx: no, I'm on 64 bit ubuntu 11.04
[20:43] <alex__> i tried this too
[20:43] <zykotick9> kapz: the ubuntu-restricted-extras packages will contain must of what you need for codecs/flash/etc
[20:43] <kapz> What I dread is a purist distro...I tried openSuse and enabled pacman repo and the dependency mess it created was untolerable
[20:43] <zykotick9> s/must/much/
[20:44] <ultrixx> bahamas: then just install the lib with packet manager if you don't have it yet
[20:44] <MonkeyDust> kapz  slackware is rather 'pure' i guess
[20:44] <bahamas> ultrixx: doing sudo apt-get install libstdc++6 tells me it's already up to date
[20:44] <kapz> zykotick9: Will enabling that repo disturb the system badly?
[20:44] <tiox> Is jimi still around?
[20:44] <ultrixx> bahamas: then you have it
[20:44] <ultrixx> bahamas: what is your problem?
[20:45] <bahamas> ultrixx: I don't have it in /usr/lib64/
[20:45] <zykotick9> kapz: that's not a repo, that's a package in default repo.  Medibuntu is an external repo with other codecs
[20:45] <jason404> I am about to upgrade from natty to oneric. is there any way I can find out which kernel I will be getting before the upgrade?
[20:45] <kapz> MonkeyDust: NOPE......it's a beautiful distro of which you are responsible to maintain!
[20:45] <bahamas> ultrixx: linking from /usr/lib32/ gives me an error about wrong ELF, because it's 32 bit probably
[20:45] <superdave_> can't boot my linux box. unreadable text printed before gui can launch. any ideas?
[20:45] <kapz> zykotick9: Got it!
[20:46] <mitrovarr> Hey guys, I'm trying to use my home desktop as a machine I can connect to from work and run analyses on (if I need extra analysis machines).  How hard is it to install ssh (both for a terminal and file transfers) in such a way that it's actually reasonably safe from hacking?  I mean, I can install the services, get them going, etc. fine on my own, but I don't know enough security to know if it's an incredibly bad idea or not.
[20:46] <ultrixx> bahamas: and /usr/lib?
[20:46] <Defusal> hi everyone
[20:47] <Defusal> my production ubuntu server has successfully destroyed a critical services UDP listening port tonight
[20:47] <bullgard6> jason404: This is not important. But you can finally aupdate to kernel  3.0.0-15-server #26-Ubuntu .
[20:47] <alexr2> i'm trying to increase allowed open file limit for nginx, and have tried like 4 different tutorials with no luck.  i'm on 10.04.  anyone know a working tutorial for this?
[20:47] <bullgard6> -a
[20:47] <bahamas> ultrixx: it doesn't have it
[20:47] <Defusal> does anyone have any idea how i can fix this without rebooting?
[20:47] <zykotick9> mitrovarr: so long as your user accounts has good passwords, ssh should be reasonably safe out of the box.
[20:47] <Defusal> rebooting this server is really not an option :(
[20:47] <mitrovarr> zykotick9:  How about any kind of GUI remote-access software?  Is that reasonably safe too?
[20:48] <ultrixx> bahamas: what does the package manager say where it is?
[20:48] <zykotick9> mitrovarr: i wouldn't know.
[20:48] <superdave_> Defusal: you might get better answers if you keep your question to one line... otherwise it looks a little disjointed...
[20:48] <mitrovarr> zykotick9:  Fair enough, I can do most of what I want to do from the command-line anyway.
[20:48] <jason404> bullgard4: will that be the kernel I will be getting?
[20:48] <jason404> bullgard6: will that be the kernel I will be getting?
[20:49] <mamece2> how can i change a folder permission with all the folder in it
[20:49] <mitrovarr> thanks everyone!
[20:49] <zykotick9> mitrovarr: ssh -X allows you to open GUI apps (assuming you have an X server on the remote machine)
[20:49] <Defusal> superdave_, im not gonna bother, the chance of anyone here being able to help is virtually zero
[20:49] <jj_> what would be the easiest way to adjust monitor refresh rate in 11.10?
[20:49] <bahamas> ultrixx: never mind. apparently I needed to explicitely install libstdc++5. thanks for the help
[20:49] <mitrovarr> zykotick9:  Worth considering, but in all likelihood I'll be running in windows on the machine from which I will be connecting, so I don't think that will work.
[20:49] <superdave_> Defusal: yeah, it's a bit crowded today :/
[20:50] <Defusal> superdave_, no this issue is something that happens to 1 in a billion
[20:50] <Defusal> just my luck
[20:50] <rick__> ok problem solved whats next
[20:50] <Defusal> the listening port is unusable, but not unbindable
[20:50] <bullgard4> jason404: No. But you can update to this version if you do not obtain it at once.
[20:50] <zykotick9> mitrovarr: it's technically possible to install an X server on MS... i'd stick to command line
[20:50] <superdave_> Defusal: ahh, well, I wish you luck!
[20:50] <ultrixx> bahamas: still there?
[20:50] <Defusal> im so screwed
[20:50] <ultrixx> bahamas: lib64stdc++6
[20:50] <Defusal> my production server is so screwed
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> Defusal  try asking in ##networking
[20:51] <mamece2> how can i change a folder and the files in it permissions?
[20:51] <mitrovarr> zykotick9:  Well, I can always reboot into linux if I need a GUI.  Most of the analysis software I use is typically run on a beowulf cluster so I'm used to do it on a command-line anyway.
[20:51] <Defusal> MonkeyDust, thanks, i guess
[20:51] <ultrixx> bahamas: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/lib64stdc++6
[20:51] <bahamas> ultrixx: yes, I'm still here. what about lib64stdc++6?
[20:51] <iandfh> i need some assistance, i all of a sudden can no longer see the minumize or max or X in any screen corner
[20:51] <bahamas> ultrixx: installing libstdc++5 fixed the problem
[20:52] <zykotick9> iandfh: welcome to Gnome3
[20:52] <ultrixx> bahamas: good
[20:52] <zykotick9> iandfh: actually, i thought there still was an X - so maybe you have an issue
[20:53] <dark|angel> Should I setup Ubuntu 11.10 on a production server? When will it be EOLd?
[20:53] <dark|angel> I would love to use it for the out of the box nginx support and mysql 5.5
[20:53] <auronandace> dark|angel: better to wait until 12.04
[20:54] <dark|angel> well, I really don't want to use 10.04 LTS because I would just have to basically hack it
[20:54] <zykotick9> iandfh: keep it in the channel
[20:54] <superdave_> I'm having trouble booting. unreadable text displays and stops before gui is up. any ideas?
[20:55] <Seven_Six_Two> My desktop has no internet, but laptop does (while away from home). Both are 11.10 amd64. I would like to get a list of required upgrades from desktop (assume apt-get update has been done), and then take that list on laptop elsewhere to download debs. How should I go about this?
[20:55] <danes> how can I add a shortcut (icon) to the menu bar? I want to add the app to kill software. My ubuntu has been going extremely slow even when I am just transfering files between two hdd and I have a 4 cores processor with 6gb ram
[20:55] <bullgard6> dark|angel: No. Please set up Ubuntu 10.04.
[20:55] <bahamas> zykotick9: do you know if the file containing the cd key should have a certain name? I get invalid key, even though I copied it from the registry
[20:56] <superdave_> I'm having trouble booting. unreadable text displays and stops boot process before gui is up. any ideas?
[20:56] <zykotick9> bahamas: sorry i don't remember...
[20:56] <MonkeyDust> Seven_Six_Two  http://paste.ubuntu.com/829301/
[20:56] <dark|angel> bullgard6 is 11.10 that buggy?
[20:56] <bullgard6> dark|angel: But I do not know about nginx support and mysql 5.5 versions.
[20:56] <bullgard6> dark|angel: Yes.
[20:57] <zykotick9> bahamas: in my notes i just have "cdkey" as the file name, not sure of it's location
[20:57] <dark|angel> bullgard6 I run CentOS 6 for all my Xen servers, but I find CentOS to be bloated for a VPS server. I host my websites inside VPS servers and so far I've been using Debian 6, but I tested Ubu 11.10 and found it to be very nice
[20:58] <superdave_> I'm having trouble booting. unreadable text displays and stops before gui is up. any ideas?
[20:58] <dark|angel> bullgard6 Nginx is easy to setup on most distros, the problem how ever is that it screws with dependencies
[20:58] <bullgard6> dark|angel: I find Ubuntu 11.10 nice too. But I would not recommend it for a production server.
[20:58] <zykotick9> superdave_: wait more then 2 minutes between repeating your question
[20:58] <ianweqrwe> i cant minimize move or close any screen i open...?i cant see the option for it anymore in the top right either
[20:59] <user82> can i uninstall a package and force it not to un-install packages that depend on it?
[20:59] <bahamas> zykotick9: Ok, I made it CDKey.txt. I'll try your version
[20:59] <ianweqrwe> ne 1?
[20:59] <ratcheer> superdave_: Boot to recovery mode, then examine your log files.
[20:59] <MonkeyDust> ianweqrwe  try alt-f2 metacity
[21:00] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: you'd need "metacity --replace"
[21:00] <dark|angel> bullgard6 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases -> Wow, 10.04 LTS server has EOL in 2015
[21:00] <ianweqrwe> that worked
[21:00] <ianweqrwe> hanks
[21:00] <superdave_> ratcheer: ok how do I get into safe mode?
[21:00] <bullgard6> dark|angel: Yes.
[21:01] <Seven_Six_Two> MonkeyDust, not exactly what I am doing, but that might be a good start. I have a desktop with no wifi, and a laptop. My friend's wifi is 6 floors down and very weak. I have desktop plugged in to laptop, and ICS works, but very slowly. I want to save the list of required upgrades on desktop to a file, copy file to laptop, go to someone's house and download required debs (without installing on laptop), transfer d
[21:01] <bahamas> that was it
[21:01] <Seven_Six_Two> ebs to desktop when I get home and install.
[21:01] <ratcheer> Do you get a grub menu when you restart?
[21:01] <shortybsd> hey guys
[21:01] <superdave_> ratcheer:no
[21:01] <dark|angel> bullgard6 I wonder when Debian 6 will be EOL. I plan on running about 8 web sites on this server, so I don't want to reinstall or upgrade for at least 3 years
[21:02] <Seven_Six_Two> MonkeyDust, I have ssd in laptop, and don't want to install all the same packages.
[21:02] <jooooo> anyone know why i cant change cursors even if i download them.it doesnt give me any options
[21:02] <superdave_> ratcheer: well, I may, but i can't read the text on the screen...
[21:02] <bullgard6> dark|angel: I am not familiar with Debain's life cycles.
[21:02] <zykotick9> dark|angel: one year after the next release (which has no fixed time, but "when it's ready")
[21:02] <oCean> dark|angel: ubuntu LTS releases (next will be in april) are supported for 5 years
[21:02] <bahamas> zykotick9: that was the problem. thanks again
[21:02] <ratcheer> Guys, what key does superdave need to press to get a grub menu when restarting?
[21:03] <zykotick9> bahamas: glad to help
[21:03] <revimail> hi, I try to connect to my server via putty on wlan, but connection stutters all the time (tested with 2 different pcs) how can I check, what is going wrong?
[21:03] <mrdeb> hi
[21:03] <mrdeb> what is a good voice recorder
[21:03] <mrdeb> ?
[21:03] <zykotick9> ratcheer: superdave_ HOLD shift after BIOS (assuming grub2)
[21:04] <jooooo> anyone got a simple way to change or apply cursor themes, mine dont work
[21:04] <bullgard6> mrdeb: Define "good".
[21:04] <dark|angel> zykotick9 oCean bullgard6 - I like accurate schedules.
[21:04] <superdave_> zykotick9, ratcheer it would be whatever is standard install... I'll try it.
[21:04] <MonkeyDust> Seven_Six_Two  if I understand correctly, you could try this: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade > your_file -- it doesnt execute the command, but redirects what it *would* do to your_file, for future reference
[21:04] <oCean> dark|angel: We cannot see what the future holds, but for now Ubuntu is on a very accurate schedule
[21:05] <mrdeb> bullgard6: small and works
[21:05] <jooooo> ??
[21:05] <ratcheer> superdave_: Hold the Shift key when rebooting, it should display the grub menu. Then select Recovery mode, then select Root Console
[21:05] <dark|angel> oCean that it is indeed. That's why I offer the whole range from Ubuntu 9.10 to 11.10 to my customers. I just didn't want to go trough the pain of making a 8.04 Xen template, since I doubt that anyone would want it on a fresh server
[21:06] <Seven_Six_Two> MonkeyDust, thanks for the reply. I found that I can replace --schedule-only with --download-only...That should work for me! Thanks for the time
[21:06] <dark|angel> oCean and I know 9.10 is EOL, but I still wanted to offer it "just in case"
[21:07] <Flannel> dark|angel: Debian releases have an EOL approximately 3 years after their release
[21:08] <dark|angel> Flannel didn't know that:) Well, since they aren't really backed by a company like Ubuntu (Canonical) or Red Hat based distros, I'm not surprised that they don't keep strict schedules.
[21:08] <jooooo> i cant change my mouse cursor...any ideas
[21:08] <brontosaurusrex> isn't debian a roling distro model?
[21:08] <zykotick9> dark|angel: actually the schedule is "when it's ready" which makes a lot more sense then rushing something out the door, to meet a deadline IMO
[21:08] <jooooo> i download custom ones too
[21:09] <Flannel> dark|angel: They don't keep strict schedules because there's a lot of factors that go into a schedule.
[21:09] <v3lky>  ##siri
[21:09] <bullgard6> mrdeb: Take the program "Sound Recorder".
[21:10] <bahamas> zykotick9: did the game mess up your resolution when you quit it?
[21:10] <dark|angel> Flannel zykotick9 I know, but I like how Ubuntu splits the Server / Desktop schedule. It makes sense, since there is less work involved on the server side because there is better feedback (regular users don't use Server), and less packages to maintain
[21:10] <zykotick9> bahamas: not typically
[21:10] <__Alex_> brontosaurusrex: Well, debian has a rolling reliese, called Sid, or unstable, but it's name describes it, it's u stable, but it has up-to-date stuff.
[21:10] <bahamas> also, I have sound problems, even though I linked openal
[21:11] <bahamas> but I think it's because I have sound problems in general. I can't hear any sound with any player
[21:11] <Flannel> dark|angel: That's not true anymore, LTS releases are supported for 5 years, desktop and server.  (Except that some things will constantly be updated to current bleeding edge, like firefox)
[21:11] <brontosaurusrex> __Alex_, but the stable one is not rolling?
[21:11] <bahamas> except the sounds from the browser
[21:11] <ikonia> Flannel: are the desktops 5 years now too ?
[21:11] <bahamas> anyone have any idea how to fix that?
[21:12] <Flannel> ikonia: 12.04s will be, time will tell if 14.04 will be.
[21:12] <ikonia> Flannel: excellent, nice to know
[21:12] <__Alex_> brontosaurusrex: No, stable is not. It's just like Ubuntu, it has versions and codenames
[21:12] <Flannel> ikonia: actually, I take that back, 14.04 will be too.
[21:12] <MonkeyDust> bahamas  open a terminal and type alsamixer, if you see MM, go to it and type m
[21:12] <dark|angel> Flannel not really, look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases - 10.04 LTS Desktop has EOL in April 2013 and Server in April 2015
[21:12] <brontosaurusrex> __Alex_, i see, thanks
[21:12] <bahamas> MonkeyDust: now what?
[21:13] <EvilResistance> anyone know why I cant activate MySQL?  its triggering some "Corrupted Databse" error that prevents loading.  Is there any way to manually delete the databases?
[21:13] <dark|angel> Flannel so Desktop LTS is only supported for 3 years, which makes sense - why would anyone keep it longer than that on a dekstop?
[21:13] <Flannel> dark|angel: yes, that was true for past LTSs, but not future ones.
[21:13] <Flannel> ikonia, dark|angel: http://www.canonical.com/content/ubuntu-1204-feature-extended-support-period-desktop-users
[21:13] <__Alex_> brontosaurusrex: But is you put 'testing' in your sources.list, it can act as a rolling release.
[21:13] <barxool> to all vim masters: when i type the command "my", then go down a few lines and then type "y'y" (to copy a block of lines), the cursor go back where i typed "my". Is it possible to configure vim so that the cursor doesn't move back on "my" ? thx
[21:13] <__Alex_> But it's not
[21:13] <dark|angel> Flannel sorry, didn't know that - but now I know :D
[21:13] <Flannel> barxool: You may have more luck in #vim
[21:14] <wildc4rd> just changed my mouse, purchased new mouse without reading the specs its not a 5 button, is there any way to incorporate mouse gestures or something into browsing for forwards/back? (using Chrome)
[21:15] <barxool> Flannel> didn't know it. thanks
[21:15] <Lirth> Ubuntu 11.10 has started to crash on me. I'll be in the middle of doing something and it'll black the screen out, some text will pop up,  and I'll go to the log in screen (no rebooting). Any idea why?
[21:17] <__Alex_> Lirth: Buggy software is buggy, we just have to wait for the Gnome team to fix it, or use  somekind of LTS
[21:18] <bahamas> damn, he left
[21:18] <no149> how do i connect a linux computer to a windows one, using direct cable connection?
[21:18] <dark|angel> Flannel this schedule makes my head spin - wow - one has to be very determined to run any distro that long: https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/errata/
[21:19] <no149> i have setup both sides and assigned ip addresses, but pinging says destination unreachable
[21:19] <ikonia> dark|angel: that's a sane business duration
[21:19] <no149> no packet loss, just 'destination unreachable'
[21:19] <ratcheer> no149: Is it a crossover cable?
[21:19] <no149> yes
[21:20] <dark|angel> ikonia well, at the rates Red Hat charges, it sure is :)
[21:20] <Flannel> dark|angel: People are still running Windows XP, 11 years after the fact.
[21:20] <Zickler12> les channels
[21:21] <no149> ratcheer, any thoughts?
[21:21] <yeats> no149: trying to give the Linux computer internet access through the windows interface?
[21:21] <ratcheer> no149: It has been years since I've done that. I honestly can't remember anything, except that it has to be a crossover cable.
[21:21] <no149> this is a first
[21:21] <dark|angel> Flannel I know, but Windows is a whole different story. With something like RHEL and its derivates you're stuck with what's supported. Now it's 2012 and the EL5 kernel can barely cope with new hardware
[21:21] <ikonia> dark|angel: it can cope just fine with any modern hardware
[21:22] <no149> no, going to setup a client-server connection for development
[21:22] <yeats> no149: ok ;-)
[21:22] <ikonia> dark|angel: and there there is RHEL 6
[21:23] <no149> yeats,  u know how?
[21:23] <dark|angel> ikonia I would have avoided a RHEL derivate like CentOS alltogether and went with Ubuntu 10.04 or even Debian 6, but most commercially available software like SolusVM has no support for Ubuntu or Debian, which sucks on their part.
[21:23] <bugbrains> how to burn snow leapoard.iso to usb
[21:23] <yeats> no149: I've never had to do that, so I'm afraid not
[21:23] <ikonia> dark|angel: if your reasons are because of the reasons you've stated in this channel, then they are wrong
[21:23] <yeats> no149: if you can put them on the same LAN that might be easier
[21:24] <jooooo> anyone walk me through changing mouse cursors?
[21:24] <bahamas> this is so frustrating
[21:24] <no149> i only have one option at my hand right now and that is direct connection
[21:24] <dark|angel> ikonia I find it easier to work with Ubuntu and/or Debian, because of how apt-get and dpkg work, the ease of creating my own packages and so on. Again, I needed SolusVM to manage my worker servers, and SolusVM has no support for Ubuntu
[21:25] <bahamas> so, can anyone help me fix my sound?
[21:25] <ikonia> dark|angel: if you find ubuntu easier then that is a sane choice for selecting it
[21:25] <carebear> Good afternoon, all. :)
[21:25] <Ben64> !details | bahamas
[21:26] <dark|angel> ikonia I am using it on my VPS servers do:) I have several. I just wanted to setup one with 11.10, and I was wondering how it was. Looks like I'll be waiting for 12.04 LTS
[21:26] <dark|angel> ikonia and just go with 10.04 for now
[21:26] <no149> anyone any ideas?
[21:26] <no149> i even turned off the Windows firewall to no effect
[21:26] <yeats> no149: seen this?: http://www.ehow.com/how_7208875_connect-ubuntu-windows-crossover-cable.html
[21:26] <bahamas> Ben64: ok. the starting sound doesn't play. if I try to play something in any player, there is no sound. only things played in the browser have sound
[21:26] <no149> yes
[21:26] <no149> i followed that
[21:27] <bahamas> Ben64: the sound doesn't work in a game either (unreal tournament 2004) even though I linked libopenal
[21:28] <bahamas> Ben64: before I got disconnected, someone told me to open alsamixer and to press M where I saw MM. I didn't get to see what I should do next
[21:28] <Ben64> bahamas: turn the volumes up
[21:29] <bahamas> Ben64: I did. still no sound
[21:30] <pdq> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bymiVKeHD8I
[21:31] <gianluca> khjkhkk
[21:31] <arianna> bahamas what about sound levels in particular players?
[21:32] <zykotick9> bahamas: does "ps aux | grep pulse" show pulse as running?
[21:32] <bahamas> arianna: I just opened banshee and the volume is maximum
[21:33] <bahamas> zykotick9: yes
[21:34] <carebear> If anyone can offer my assistance with beginner-level python in ubuntu v 11.10, it would be much appreciated. Using Python 2.7.2, created a file test1.py in what I'm pretty sure is my home directory. Trying to access this file in my terminal with the command 'python test1.py' and getting SyntaxError: Invalid syntax. I'm trying to go along with a tutorial that I found, and I just can't seem to figure this out.
[21:34] <carebear> *offer me assistance
[21:35] <jooooo> i cant install mouse cursors i just downloaded
[21:35] <arianna> carebear did you try stanis python IDE?
[21:35] <bahamas> carebear: #python is a better place to ask these questions. it sounds like you have an error in your python code
[21:36] <jooooo> this chat is shit, no ones helps...ever
[21:36] <carebear> @bahamas Awesome! thanks!!! This is just the first help chat that I found
[21:37] <bahamas> carebear: yes, programming languages have their own help channels usually
[21:37] <pdq> mouse cursors have never worked for me in any ubuntu, the normal state cursor never changes, only when hover cursor or in firefox etc.
[21:37] <pdq> i dunno if that's desired effect or what but in mac and win they changed in normal state
[21:38] <carebear> arianna: lol I really have no idea what that even means... I literally just started tutorial #1, and have never messed with python before ever.
[21:38] <zykotick9> pdq: joooo is gone.  The mouse cursors usually appear if you disable compiz (not really an option in modern Unity)
[21:38] <Mini> hi guys, ive installed the broadcom wireless drivers on my laptop, but i cant seem to find networks, any ideas?
[21:39] <pdq> zykotick9 i use gnome-shell but thanks, this stupid znc doesn't work well for nick complete on multiple networks :P
[21:40] <bahamas> so, any other ideas anyone?
[21:40] <arianna> carebear then I recommend the free ebook diveintopython.net
[21:40] <bahamas> no, I don't recommend it
[21:40] <arianna> why not
[21:40] <carebear> arianna: Thanks, I will check it out.
[21:40] <bahamas> first, that's for people who already know how to program
[21:41] <bahamas> second, it has some inaccuracies
[21:41] <bahamas> carebear: if it's your first programming language, try think python or learn python the hard way
[21:41] <arianna> bahamas thanks for advice
[21:41] <bahamas> you're welcome
[21:42] <Hopsy> hey can someone help me?
[21:42] <carebear> bahamas: I will likely check out all three. :) I appreciate the suggestions
[21:42] <Hopsy> I want to read data from my HDD
[21:42] <Hopsy> how should I do this?
[21:42] <bahamas> carebear: don't check out dive into python because it's above your level
[21:42] <Hopsy> I checked in disk utility, it gave me 2 errors
[21:43] <carebear> bahamas: k
[21:43] <Hopsy> something with curent pending sector
[21:43] <bahamas> carebear: this is what I used to learn http://openbookproject.net/thinkcs/python/english2e/
[21:44] <bahamas> carebear: if you like building games, you might want to try this one instead http://inventwithpython.com/chapters/
[21:47] <carebear> bahamas: Not so much for games. I do technical support for a veterinary management software that only works on windows right now. I have a lot of our clients who request being able to run it with a linux server instead, for security purposes. I'm tired of trying to get the company to try to do it as they keeps saying that it will take too much time, and there won't be enough profit for it, so I figure if I can at least come up with 
[21:48] <mamece2> how can i change a folders and the files in it permissions?
[21:50] <WindowsMojave> Anyone need cheap web hosting? I own a web hosting company.  We use the Open Source Kloxo control Panel :)
[21:50] <ikonia> don't advertise in here please
[21:50] <WindowsMojave> OK, I understand
[21:51] <ikonia> thank you
[21:51] <bahamas> trying to run unreal tournament 2004 brings up a black screen which I can't escape. I can switch between programs with Alt+Tab, but I still get the black screen. anyone have any idea what might be wrong?
[21:51] <chaos_zero> hi people quick question. how do i reload the network drivers or whatever to let ubuntu see a hot plug network pci card that i added
[21:53] <Erik8_> Hello.
[21:53] <chaos_zero> ifconfig -a | grep eth does not show the newly added ones
[21:53] <Erik8_> I just installed gnome 3 from a clean cd install and it is not working
[21:53] <Erik8_> I mean gnome 3 is working, network manager is not
[21:53] <Erik8_> I had installed network manager from a separate cd
[21:54] <zykotick9> chaos_zero: check the output of "dmesg", i'm guessing the "hot plug" might not work
[21:54] <Erik8_> And it shows up normally on the taskbar but when I click on it, has not option to make a new connection with my usb modem
[21:54] <jimi_> How can I see what modules are loaded?
[21:54] <Oer> chaos_zero, what hot plug network pci card ?? ( never knew pci is hotplugged )
[21:54] <zykotick9> jimi_: lsmod
[21:55] <chaos_zero> dmesg goes forever
[21:55] <chaos_zero> cant read that fast O_o
[21:55] <nixmaniack> can somebody guide me to some simple tutorial on GoObject introspection?
[21:56] <chaos_zero> its a ibm server with hot plug pci-x slots
[21:56] <jooooo> i dont have a .theme folder....to change themes..
[21:56] <chaos_zero> you can open a hardware switch to kill the power to the slot, then change the adapter
[21:57] <guntbert> nixmaniack: is that an ubuntu support question?
[21:57] <syddraf> When I run gnome-do, the window appears solid black and outputs the error "No alpha support." This only happens when I have Xinerama enabled. Does anyone know of a way to fix this? I am running Xubuntu 11.10
[21:58] <nixmaniack> guntbert, i guess someone might help :)
[21:58] <xangua> syddraf: do you have xfce composite enabled¿
[21:58] <chaos_zero> how do i filter the dmesg to show what i want for hot plug
[21:59] <syddraf> xangua: If its not default, then no. It is in the settings, I presume?
[21:59] <guntbert> nixmaniack: this channel is for ubuntu support only - try to find a channel for your programming language
[21:59] <xangua> syddraf: somewhere on the preferences, long time since i used it
[21:59] <guntbert> !alis | nixmaniack
[22:00] <syddraf> xangua: I found "Compositor" under "Window Manager Tweaks" and it is enabled.
[22:01] <xangua> syddraf: no idea then, gnome-do stopped development a long time ago; have you tried Docky instead¿
[22:02] <ghost13> the owners of netgear need a good kick in the rear for dropping linux software support.i bought a nice rangemax adap and itś useless with no windows to put on the hdd  :/
[22:02] <syddraf> xangua: I don't want a dock, which is what docky appears to be.
[22:02] <syddraf> xangua: But thanks for the suggestion.
[22:03] <ghost13> i have ultimate edition 3.0.itś wicked.lol
[22:03] <mamece2> how can i change a folders and the files in it permissions?
[22:04] <mamece2> i did a backup into another PC and i cant access cuz i am not the owner, how can i change that?
[22:04] <xangua> syddraf: well if what you wanted is just a launcher, there are: Kupfer, Synapse and Launchy
[22:04] <jooooo> i dont have a .theme folder....to change themes..
[22:05] <smickles> is there a way to mount an old encrypted home folder as rw instead of read-only?
[22:05] <xangua> jooooo: then...create it
[22:05] <syddraf> xangua: Kupfer looks perfect. Thank you.
[22:05] <ghost13> thereś a password guessing in either ubuntu or debian pkgs.
[22:05] <chaos_zero> so anyone have any ideas
[22:06] <chaos_zero> for my hotplug dilemma
[22:06] <guntbert> smickles: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory please
[22:06] <chaos_zero> can i specify to restart the driver for a certain pci bus?
[22:06] <guntbert> ghost13: please keep to ubuntu support
[22:06] <smickles> thank you guntbert
[22:07] <guntbert> smickles: Good luck :-)
[22:07] <bahamas> I have two sound cards. could that be the source of my sound problems?
[22:08] <ghost13> i got locked out of my bios when my windows  got erased. by my cat.lol
[22:09] <chronofire> hey im trying to update my old ubuntu that is running off a partition but i do not know which partition is which. i have /dev/sda, /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2. dev/sda2 is most likely the partiontion ubuntu was origionaly installed one right?
[22:09] <jooooo> how do i set up custom system sounds? like ang theme based thi
[22:10] <jooooo> ??
[22:11] <pangolin> jooooo: patience, if nobody is here to answer or knows they wont. you could also try askubuntu.com or the ubuntu forums
[22:11] <bahamas> what's the apt-get version of aptitude's reinstall?
[22:11] <pangolin> bahamas: apt-get install --reinstall package
[22:12] <guntbert> !ot > ghost13
[22:12] <ghost13> /dev/sda is a linux partition.  :D
[22:12] <p3rror> i've an error with apt-get http://paste.debian.net/154873/
[22:13] <auronandace> ghost13: /dev/sda would be the disk, not a partition
[22:13] <bahamas> pangolin: do you know what would be the equivalent of this udo aptitude --purge reinstall linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils linux-image-`uname -r` linux-ubuntu-modules-`uname -r` libasound2?
[22:13] <aaa_> i cant click or move my mouse, but the red light is on. how can i check it? (connected with ps2)
[22:13] <bahamas> pangolin: now I get E: Unable to locate package linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.38-13-generic
[22:14] <pangolin> bahamas: apt-get purge --reinstall ? but I have never tried it, should work.
[22:15] <kingnebex>  hey guy whats up....
[22:15] <bahamas> pangolin: I get the same error about linux-ubuntu-modules
[22:16] <kingnebex> m fire fox browser keeps on acting weird caan any 1 help me out plz?...
[22:16] <hirogen3> #firefoz
[22:16] <hirogen3> #firefox
[22:16] <pangolin> bahamas: apt-cache policy linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.38-13-generic , is it installed?
[22:17] <aaa_> i cant click or move my mouse, but the red light is on. how can i check it? (connected with ps2)
[22:18] <holstein> aaa_: i would take it to another machine, see that it works... unplug and pug it back in... logout and log back in
[22:18] <kingnebex> firefox web browser @hirogen
[22:18] <bahamas> pangolin: same error. btw, I got this command from here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting close to the bottom
[22:18] <mamece2> how can i change a folders and the files in it permissions?
[22:18] <pangolin> bahamas: you know you can install aptitude
[22:19] <bahamas> I'm trying to troubleshoot sounds issues
[22:19] <pangolin> bahamas: right, but you need to translate the commands if you install aptitude
[22:19] <pangolin> you wont*
[22:20] <X-tonic> Hey, I use a system behind an http authentication proxy. Because of this, my empathy fails to connect. Can Anything be done?. For this i also have setup polipo proxy on localhost with authentication details stored. Yet, even setting this proxy in gnome settings fails to make empathy work.
[22:21] <bahamas> pangolin: yes, I installed it and ran the command and the sound still isn't working
[22:21] <pangolin> bahamas: you mentuioned something about having two sound cards?
[22:21] <jooooo> anyone got info on how to change system sounds so custom ones..
[22:21] <pangolin> perhaps the wrong one is being used
[22:21] <bahamas> pangolin: yes, one is from ATI and the other one from Intel, probably on-board
[22:22] <bahamas> should I deactivate the on-board one from BIOS or something?
[22:22] <pangolin> bahamas: see if that wiki page has info on disabling the onboard
[22:23] <bahamas> pangolin: it doesn't
[22:23] <pangolin> bahamas: if you know how to do it from BIOS...I don't
[22:24] <pangolin> bahamas: make sure you keep notes so you can undo any changes later if you need to
[22:24] <kingnebex> are there any other web browsers that can work inn ubuntu?
[22:24] <libdev101> Does anyone know how to upgrade from ubuntu 32bit to 64bit without losing any settings or files?
[22:24] <JacobVengeance> Is here any that cant? lol
[22:24] <bahamas> pangolin: I'm going to mock around. opening alsamixer shows HDA Intel, btw
[22:24] <xangua> kingnebex: lot of
[22:25] <xangua> libdev101: save your data and reinstall
[22:25] <JacobVengeance> External Harddrives are your friends.
[22:25] <pangolin> libdev101: you will need to do a clean install but when you do make sure to uncheck the format /home in Advanced at the partitioning part of the install.
[22:26] <libdev101> Will my applications still be there?
[22:26] <pangolin> libdev101: the settings will
[22:26] <pangolin> !clone
[22:26] <pangolin> that will help you to get all your packages reinstalled easily
[22:27] <JacobVengeance> I should probably update my ubuntu install soon, I am still on 10.04 lol
[22:27] <libdev101> Cool, thanks!
[22:27] <pangolin> libdev101:
[22:27] <ryankey> JacobVengeance, Me too!
[22:27] <pangolin> nothing beats backups of your important data!
[22:27] <chronofire> hey im trying to update my old ubuntu that is running off a partition but i do not know which partition is which. i have /dev/sda, /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2. dev/sda2 is most likely the partiontion ubuntu was origionaly installed one right?
[22:28] <kingnebex> xangua which 1s?
[22:28] <JacobVengeance> I will probably wait for 12.04, LTS is always a better option for me. The only downside is losing gnome 2
[22:29] <xangua> !browser | kingnebex
[22:29] <xangua> and others
[22:29] <JacobVengeance> Opera is also an option, but is not in their repository.
[22:30] <kingnebex> does opera work in ubuntu?
[22:30] <holstein> kingnebex: i have used it in the past
[22:30] <JacobVengeance> Yes kingnebex
[22:30] <meberhart> yes, opera works in ubuntu
[22:31] <libdev101> My ubuntu install is in an "Extended" partition of my hard drive. Is there any way to move it out of that?
[22:32] <Lirth> I've had Ubuntu begin crashing on my multiple times a day. Today I've counted three and it's becoming a problem. Any idea how or why this might be happening?
[22:32] <JacobVengeance> Lirth, you don't have any crash logs?
[22:32] <kingnebex> so how do i install opera then?
[22:32] <JacobVengeance> Go to their website and download the package, or they might have their own repository kingnebex
[22:32] <meberhart> download the .deb file from Opera's site
[22:33] <shwaiil> hi
[22:33] <xangua> kingnebex: go to opera.com
[22:33] <JacobVengeance> Hi shwaiil
[22:33] <chronofire>  im trying to update my old ubuntu that is running off a partition but i do not know which partition is which. i have /dev/sda, /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2. dev/sda2 is most likely the partiontion ubuntu was origionaly installed one right?
[22:33] <shwaiil> Q: Using the CLI how to find on the current dir and its child dir  ? Thanks for looking
[22:33] <Lirth> JacobVengeance: I'm a bit new to Linux, I only started this month,  so I don't know where to find it.
[22:34] <JacobVengeance> Can you rephrase that? You can find a children just by running ls.
[22:34] <JacobVengeance> There is nothing that comes up stating their was an error or anything Lirth?
[22:34] <fyksen> ls -l
[22:34] <kingnebex> awkey 1 final thing i want to play need for speed in ubuntu .....how do i install coz wine aint working in my lap
[22:34] <xangua> !appdb | kingnebex
[22:34] <JacobVengeance> Wine is your only choice.
[22:35] <Lirth> JacobVengeance: When it happens the screen blacks out, I see a few lines of text (2-3) and then it brings me to the login screen.
[22:35] <JacobVengeance> What do those lines say?
[22:35] <ToBIOS> chronofire: I don't know which one is more likely to be Ubuntu, but you can find out pretty easily by using the df command
[22:35] <kingnebex> is there a nfs version 4 ubuntu by any chance?
[22:36] <eldereko> question: someone setup a ubuntu machine for me at work and created a seperate account for me, now whenever I am prompted for authentication to make sysmte changes it asks for that users password instead of mine even though I am in the admin group and sudoers... using latest ubuntu oneiric, any help??
[22:36] <JacobVengeance> Probably not kingnebex
[22:37] <kingnebex> so wat cool games work in ubuntu?
[22:37] <Lirth> JacobVengeance: It varies. A few times ago I saw it mention something about Kernels, this time it was bluetooth, but it's never up long enough for me to read the full thing.
[22:37] <JacobVengeance> You can look up games in the Humble Bundle, those are the only ones i know about besides Oil Rush or whatever
[22:37] <chronofire> ToBIOS what is the df command my ubuntu is acting up and the two partions say they are both 500 gb while i only have 1 500gb drive and the other partition is only 10 mb can it be that one?
[22:38] <xangua> !games | kingnebex
[22:38] <xangua> there is also: playdeb.net
[22:38] <holstein> dobox games from http://www.gog.com/ kingnebex
[22:38] <WoC> kingnebex, do a; 'apt-cache search nfs'
[22:38] <JacobVengeance> Lirth, are you doing something at the time it crashes?
[22:38] <eldereko> kingnebex tux racer
[22:39] <Lirth> JacobVengeance: I'm usually in chrome, but that may be because it's the program I use the most. I'm never logged in without it open.
[22:39] <ToBIOS> chronofire: If you can still boot into Ubuntu, it should tell you which is mounted on /. That's the partition you want.
[22:39] <chronofire> and the df command would tell me that?
[22:40] <holstein> theres http://www.desura.com/ now as well kingnebex
[22:40] <JacobVengeance> hmm....I am not sure where crash logs would be.
[22:40] <ToBIOS> chronofire: Yep. If you need help interpreting the output, then you can paste it here.
[22:41] <kingnebex> i wish i could play nfs in ubuntu
[22:41] <holstein> kingnebex: is that a game?...
[22:41] <eldereko> holstein, need for speed
[22:41] <Carb0nF1b3r> irssi is tight
[22:41] <chronofire> ToBIOS: okay thanks i will try that
[22:42] <ToBIOS> chronofire: No problem.
[22:42] <holstein> i was thinking file system...
[22:42] <JacobVengeance> lol
[22:42] <JacobVengeance> brb
[22:43] <NullP01nt> hey guys
[22:43] <holstein> looks like it had a gold rating at one point http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=4101
[22:43] <holstein> kingnebex: ^^
[22:43] <NullP01nt> just a quick question.. I have a laptop with a synaptics touchpad, however a scroll event is thrown whenever a left-mouseclick is thrown... How can I remedy this?
[22:44] <meberhart> you can try looking at the touchpad settings in the dconf-editor
[22:45] <trojan> whats the terminal for restarting desktop GUI? it's all messed up here with compiz and I'm rusty with my terminal commands
[22:45] <NullP01nt> meberhart: Maybe I should've specified that this isn't ubuntu-specific.. it happens on Ubuntu, Fedora and also on CrunchBang (which is what's installed now)
[22:45] <holstein> trojan: might just want to run sudo reboot then
[22:46] <trojan> no not reboot ,
[22:46] <syn-ack> trojan, sudo stop gdm
[22:46] <syn-ack> wait
[22:47] <syn-ack> which version of Ubuntu are you runnning?
[22:47] <trojan> got it , just changed it to unity ,, trying to think of the name for the basic ubuntu GUI though ,, not a fan of unity
[22:47] <NullP01nt> meberhart: I have no idea where to start looking anymore, I'm trying almost any distro-channel I know here on FreeNode
[22:48] <syn-ack> which version are you running? One has gdm and other doesnt, trojan
[22:48] <meberhart> have you tried using a different mouse? i know that sounds silly.
[22:48] <syn-ack> lemme guess his pointer's dying on him?
[22:48] <trojan> think it's 10.10
[22:48] <NullP01nt> meberhart: difference mouse-devices just work.. however, you cannot expect, on a laptop, to always have a different mouse handy
[22:48] <syn-ack> that seems to be a kernel bug. I'm suffering from it too
[22:49] <syn-ack> I haven't been able to download the updates due to bandwidth issues.
[22:49] <meberhart> right... i was just curious as to whether or not the problem was specific to the touchpad.
[22:49] <NullP01nt> meberhart: it is, unfortunately.. but not on all synaptics touchpads, which is weird
[22:49] <syn-ack> that's what I was thinking.
[22:49] <syn-ack> Going for a smoke. brb
[22:50] <meberhart> there is a synaptics touchpad tool for download. i used it a long time ago, but i'm not sure where to find it again. maybe that would help?
[22:50] <trojan>  Ubuntu 11.04 - the Natty Narwhal
[22:50] <Sanky> Hello.  Each time I plug out the networking cable from my computer, Ubuntu stops recognizing it when I plug it back in, forcing me to use wifi or restart.  any ideas?  driving me mad.
[22:50] <chronofire> ToBIOS: i did the df command these are my results http://www.pastebin.comoy5R7uTr
[22:51] <NullP01nt> meberhart: a synaptics tool? I have gpointer-config or something like that.. but it doesn't do much at the moment, and I can't seem to get the proper drivers to load either..
[22:51] <breath> Hi Guys ... i'm trying to install ruby-1.9.2 in my Linux 10.10 ... i only get 1.8 trying with apt-get ...
[22:52] <trojan> any devs help me to set up xampp?
[22:52] <NullP01nt> meberhart: breath maybe ruby-1.9.2 isn't in the repositories yet
[22:52] <meberhart> have you tried downloading drivers from synaptic?
[22:52] <xangua> breath: update to an ubuntu version that has it or compile
[22:52] <chronofire> ToBIOS: sorry let me make a new one
[22:53] <NullP01nt> meberhart: funnily enough, the crunch/deb repositories have a synaptics xorg driver package.. however, the synaptics module isn't loaded
[22:53] <breath> xangua: and if i use lucid repos ? i have them in lucid ... will that hurt if i change all the maverick's in the sources.list to lucid ????
[22:54] <StAlKsS> ay
[22:54] <StAlKsS> hay
[22:54] <chronofire> ToBIOS: http://pastebin.com/0y5R7uTr
[22:54] <StAlKsS> was geht?
[22:54] <holstein> breath: with it "hurt"?... just grab the .deb's you need and try... no need to change everything... you can get an idea if it'll work or not without risking so much
[22:55] <StAlKsS> so viele xD
[22:55] <WoC> Nicht zu viel
[22:55] <metasansana> Englisch?
[22:55] <StAlKsS> ihr seit ja echt gesprächig :d
[22:55] <breath> holstein: and if i want my repos up to date ?
[22:56] <holstein> breath: then, you'll just have the one or 2 .deb's... not totally mis-matched sources
[22:56] <holstein> i would *not* mix sources like that and expect all to be well
[22:56] <holstein> i would literally just grab the one .deb, and try and install it... sudo dpkg -i whatever
[22:57] <holstein> it'll work or it wont, and it wont break a bunch of things
[22:57] <breath> holstein: what's the differant then between differant releases if we don't see from kernel Side ?
[22:58] <holstein> breath: im not following you.. but let me be clear.. i wouldn *not* edit the sources
[22:58] <mae-ubu1004>  Hi!  I've got a  a question
[22:59] <StAlKsS> STOP ACTA! Do you Agree?
[22:59] <WoC> mae-ubu1004, what kind of question ?
[22:59] <sankey> lol, nice question
[23:00] <mae-ubu1004> I'm using xfce, and it seems that i cannot access to a NTFS partition through xfce, while using gnome i've got no problems
[23:00] <mae-ubu1004> Any ideas why is this happening?
[23:00] <breath> holstein: well i'm starting ruby programming ; will it be a good choice to use QT4 With ruby ?
[23:00] <sankey> you using thunar for your file manager?
[23:01] <mae-ubu1004> YEa, it's thunar
[23:01] <metasansana> mae-ubu1004:  try gigolo
[23:02] <mae-ubu1004> Gigolo it's another file browser?
[23:02] <sankey> if it worked in gnome, that means you had the ntfs-3g package installed
[23:02] <sankey> is that installed in xfce?
[23:02] <holstein> breath: i have only dabbled in programming, but you should be able to do most of that from a live CD, or in virtualization, assuming you want ubuntu 11.10 and dont want to upgrade
[23:02] <kingnebex> who gave me this link?.....http://www.desura.com/
[23:02] <mae-ubu1004> No idea sankey, i suppose i've got to check it
[23:02] <__Alex_> mae-ubu1004: Can't you mount the disc manually? (sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/foo /mnt/bar))
[23:03] <sankey> i meant xubuntu. did you reinstall the operating system, or just instll xfce?
[23:03] <breath> holstein: thanks bro
[23:03] <mae-ubu1004> I used the metapackage
[23:04] <mae-ubu1004> of xubuntu
[23:04] <veryhappy> hi guys please help me i want to install ubuntu server but i want to go sure that i can use the text terminals, last time as i installed ubuntu desktop 11.10 amd64 i got this on tty1-6 http://www.imagebanana.com/view/7bamg9b6/P2202_080112.JPG
[23:04] <Cyquin> Can anyone help me uninstall some software. I seem to be having a problem with dpkg. When ever I try to install or uninstall software I am getting an error that there is a problem with the penguin-command package?
[23:04] <breath> So Wat Do you think Eeryone ? Should i start Ruby With QT4 ? Advice maaaaa ?
[23:04] <mae-ubu1004> Hey Aex check this out  !! ntfs-3g 2010.3.6 external FUSE 28 - Third Generation NTFS Driver
[23:04] <mae-ubu1004> 		Configuration type 1, XATTRS are on, POSIX ACLS a
[23:04] <mae-ubu1004> POSIX ACLS are off
[23:04] <mae-ubu1004> Alex*
[23:04] <veryhappy> Cyquin: did you already try dpkg-reconfigure?
[23:05] <schnuffle> Cyquin: Any reason why you use dpkg instead of apt-get?
[23:05] <Cyquin> no let me give that a go,
[23:05] <Cyquin> Well to be honest I am just trying anything to sort the issue so no reason for dpkg over apt-get
[23:06] <schnuffle> Cyquin: okay so try to uninstall with apt-get and then paste the error
[23:06] <jimi_> I am getting video out of my hdmi port, but not audio. i have set my system to use hdmi stereo output, but i dont hear anything
[23:07] <mae-ubu1004> LOL i just used gigolo and it worked perfectly
[23:07] <trojan> anyone use xampp ?
[23:07] <veryhappy> trojan: here
[23:08] <Cyquin> Veryhappy can you give me an example of how to use the reconfigure switch
[23:08] <holstein> jimi_: you can try installing pavucontrol .. it might just not work though
[23:08] <Cyquin> I haven't used it before
[23:08] <trojan> where the opt saved ?
[23:08] <gartral> jimi_: some graphics cards have too be plugged into a sound port on the motherboard..
[23:08] <jimi_> holstein, That is how I am controlling it.
[23:08] <zykotick9> !xampp | trojan
[23:08] <veryhappy> Cyquin: give me a moment
[23:08] <jimi_> gartral, This is a laptop hdmi port
[23:08] <Cyquin> aahh just run it
[23:08] <Cyquin> I get the following error: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: penguin-command is broken or not fully installed
[23:08] <trojan> oh FFS zykotick9
[23:08] <holstein> jimi_: id just search around then.. it might just be one that wont work... do you see it in aplay -l ?
[23:08] <gartral> jimi_: ahh.. did it work from any other os?
[23:09] <zykotick9> !lamp | trojan for a proper install
[23:09] <jimi_> holstein, Yes, I see it in there. WOuld you like to see the output?
[23:09] <jimi_> gartral, No clue, never had another OS :P
[23:09] <holstein> jimi_: nah.. as long as its there
[23:09] <Cyquin> Error using apt-get is: dpkg: error processing penguin-command (--remove):  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should  reinstall it before attempting a removal. Errors were encountered while processing:  penguin-command E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1
[23:09] <trojan> I know what it is and how to install , just wondering where it goes ,,
[23:10] <jimi_> holstein, card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
[23:10] <holstein> jimi_: paste it here though, someone else might have the card
[23:10] <schnuffle> Cyquin: try sudo apt-get install -f
[23:10] <veryhappy> Cyquin: seems to have too less dependencies to remove the package as far i can see it
[23:11] <nicolenicole> How do I type smallcaps in LibreOffice Impress?
[23:12] <Cyquin> schnuffle trying that now with the original install
[23:12] <alfredoalcaldo> 04 xdcc send #2
[23:12] <Cyquin> I'll then try the uninstall
[23:12] <ToBIOS> chronofire: It looks like it's on /dev/sda1. You didn't install this with Wubi, by chance?
[23:12] <bahamas> has anyone heard of the fonts and the colors changing after installing wine?
[23:12] <Cyquin> the force install seems to have worked with the original install
[23:13] <Cyquin> I'm assuming the other software i am trying to add and remove should now work.
[23:13] <schnuffle> Cyquin: Am I right that you try to install a package tat doesn't come from a repo?
[23:14] <Cyquin> Schnuffle repo?
[23:14] <schnuffle> Cyquin: repository
[23:15] <etyrnal> anyone here use naim ?
[23:15] <Cyquin> as far as I was aware it was part of a repository
[23:15] <nicolenicole> does LibreOffice have smallcaps?
[23:15] <Cyquin> Everything I have installed has been through the ubuntu GUI package manager
[23:15] <veryhappy> Cyquin: Ubuntu Software Center?
[23:16] <Cyquin> That's the one veryhappy
[23:16] <kingnebex> how can i get free games for ubuntu?
[23:17] <Cyquin> I'm trying to install emacs at the moment and I keep getting errors through the software centre. e.g.  synchronize mmap - msync (28: No space left on device), E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[23:17] <Cyquin> I'm sure there is space on the drive though.
[23:17] <schnuffle> Cyquin: Paste the result of df -h
[23:18] <jimi_> holstein, Oh... some apps work over HDMI :D
[23:18] <jimi_> holstein, just not all :P
[23:19] <greta> non avere paura del buio
[23:19] <Cyquin> schnuffle /dev/loop0 is showing up as 100%
[23:19] <Cyquin> all others have space
[23:19] <jimi_> holstein, aplay -D plughw:0,3 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav    This plays it out over my HDMI
[23:19] <veryhappy> please you guys did you find any solution for my problem?
[23:19] <veryhappy> http://www.imagebanana.com/view/7bamg9b6/P2202_080112.JPG
[23:20] <schnuffle> Cyquin: /dev/loop? paste mount
[23:20] <Cyquin> aahhh.. makes sense now schuffle. mounted as root
[23:21] <Cyquin> I am running ubuntui using WUBI
[23:21] <Cyquin> I am guessing that it is hitting a limit on the virtual drive.
[23:21] <nicolenicole> Does LibreOffice Impress not have any smallcaps at all?  I just got it working in LibreOffice Writer but I can't copy & paste it.
[23:21] <Caddyshack> sup[
[23:21] <schnuffle> Cyquin: Aaaaaaah. That's a important information. I don't use Wubi so I don`t know how to resize the partition
[23:22] <veryhappy> Cyquin: do you run it from windows?
[23:23] <Cyquin> veryhappy yes I have windows on the box as well, but since installing ubuntu  I haven't been using windows
[23:23] <Cyquin> I think i need to resize the file for ubuntu
[23:23] <veryhappy> Cyquin: do you have gparted on your system?
[23:23] <schnuffle> Cyquin: Then you should think about installing ubuntu correclty without wubi
[23:24] <veryhappy> Cyquin: yes, schnuffle is right. better install it as a dual boot system.
[23:24] <funnyfingers> How do I install mksock?
[23:25] <Cyquin> well said schnuffle.... Still haven't quite been convinced to throw windows away just yet. But I am preferring ubuntu.
[23:25] <Cyquin> ok so would you suggest partitioning the drive the reinstall?
[23:25] <veryhappy> Cyquin: you should not throw away windows.
[23:26] <schnuffle> Cyquin: You can resize the windows partition and use the space to do a dual boot install. In that way you have the choice and ubuntu is running as it should
[23:26] <Cyquin> ok
[23:26] <veryhappy> Cyquin: you should use a live cd from ubuntu resize the partition using gparted and then install ubuntu beside windows.
[23:26] <Cyquin> I will take a look at that
[23:26] <Cyquin> Schnuffle and veryhappy thanks both for your help
[23:27] <schnuffle> Cyquin: And always keep in mind. Do a backup, then do a backup and then do antoher backup :)
[23:27] <veryhappy> Cyquin: you're welcome
[23:27] <Cyquin> :-) so true....
[23:27] <jimi_> How can I set the default audio device by hardware id?
[23:27] <jimi_> er device # from aplay -l
[23:29] <mustafaerhan> hello all.
[23:29] <veryhappy> mustafaerhan: please ask your question.
[23:29] <_Ethan_> hello mustafaerhan
[23:30] <mustafaerhan> thank you.  looking for suggestions about ubuntu. tweaks softwares etc. all welcome.
[23:30] <FCR2012> hi
[23:30] <funnyfingers> Anyone know of mksock in Ubuntu or another method to make a socket file?
[23:30] <mustafaerhan> hello FCR2012
[23:31] <FCR2012> Musta how you PM someone in IRC
[23:31] <Oer> mustafaerhan, there are a lot of tweaks & tools, my best suggestion: make a backup of the file you edit.
[23:31] <kronos003> help i have a new dell xps 17 laptop with an ssd which wont boot after the os installs on the drive - wtf?
[23:31] <syn-ack> funnyfingers, http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/unix/m/mksock.html
[23:32] <syn-ack> funnyfingers, sorry disregard
[23:32] <holstein> jimi_: then, you can stop troubleshooting the connection
[23:32] <funnyfingers> :)
[23:32] <mustafaerhan> just type its name FCR2012.
[23:32] <FCR2012> Hey ubuntu does that microsoft don't like : Did has not any rouge software
[23:33] <jimi_> holstein, no, it seems it only works w/ aplay, i cant get pulse audio to set it to the right hdmi :(
[23:33] <holstein> jimi_: *nothing* using pulse has used it?
[23:33] <mustafaerhan> im using xchat so i can click your name and make private talk. FCR2012 :)
[23:33] <jimi_> Nope
[23:33] <holstein> still, i think its likely you have routing issues
[23:33] <jimi_> holstein, aplay -D plughw:0,3 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav works
[23:33] <FCR2012> Me too
[23:33] <holstein> jimi_: i would double double check in pavulcontrol
[23:33] <funnyfingers> I can't find anything for mksock on Google for Debian or Ubuntu
[23:34] <jimi_> holstein, i set it to all the different hdmi options in pavulcontrol and no audio
[23:34] <funnyfingers> All I can find is people asking for it and no answers.
[23:34] <holstein> i would also look in alsamixer ... i generally trust *no* labels jimi_
[23:34] <syn-ack> funnyfingers, seems that mksock is broken. lemme check the mailing list
[23:34] <Oer> !info mksock
[23:35] <holstein> jimi_: right.. but, it *is* working... you could try some alsa only live distro and see, but i think its just some simple fiddly routing issue
[23:35] <daniel___> I'm having trouble with my usb ports in Ubuntu. When I plug in it either won't detect it or partially detects it but can't mount it. lsusb will freeze when I try it
[23:35] <nivyaj> Can someone help me with an install?
[23:35] <veryhappy> nivyaj: of what?
[23:36] <syn-ack> Oer, it's part of coreutils
[23:36] <kronos003> nivyaj: lets see if i can help - what do you need
[23:36] <nivyaj> veryhappy: intellij
[23:36] <nivyaj> nice
[23:36] <syn-ack> funnyfingers, hold on. Still checking
[23:36] <nivyaj> i'm doing this
[23:36] <nivyaj> http://techbrew.net/articles/200711/how-to-put-intellij-idea-on-ubuntu/
[23:36] <funnyfingers> appreciate it syn-ack
[23:36] <jimi_> holstein, maybe, i wonder if its a permissions issue?
[23:36] <nivyaj> but i need help on the enviro. varaible pary
[23:36] <syn-ack> funnyfingers, I'
[23:36] <syn-ack> err
[23:36] <daniel___> Can someone help with getting Usb drives working?
[23:37] <chronofire> ToBIOS: if your still around its ubuntu 8. something its pretty old and i used the iso file to install from the ubuntu site
[23:37] <syn-ack> funnyfingers, I'm going upstream so please be patient
[23:37] <veryhappy> nivyaj: why don't you just do what there's written?
[23:37] <urlin2u> daniel___, Whats going on?
[23:38] <holstein> jimi_: gksudo play something, but i doubt it
[23:38] <nivyaj> veryhappy:  i don't know what's going on in those cmds and i don't want to mess up  my system
[23:39] <veryhappy> nivyaj: understand.
[23:39] <daniel___> @urlin2u, I'm trying to connect my Droid X and Fuze v2 to my Ubuntu laptop. The usb is working very sporadically, one day things connect the next nothing. When I run lsusb it will freeze sometimes or detect the device but I can't mount it.
[23:39] <veryhappy> nivyaj: on which step are you now?
[23:39] <nivyaj> step 3, part 1.
[23:39] <syn-ack> funnyfingers, Seems very deprecated. Have you tried mknod?
[23:39] <syn-ack> like many DECADES deprecated.
[23:40] <urlin2u> daniel___, I thought you meant HD's  I'm not  familiar in that area. :)
[23:40] <syn-ack> funnyfingers, it's not even in the coreutils infopage anymore, that's how old it is
[23:41] <daniel___> @urlin2u, k, is there any where I can get some help because this started up randomly when I somehow updated to 11.04 without knowing it and it's a pain in the butt
[23:41] <nivyaj> veryhappy: ok- so we have the enviromental for exporting the jdk home
[23:41] <kinou> Hello everybody. I'm having a really disturbing bug on my Ubuntu Oneric.
[23:41] <kinou> I can't poweroff the computer anymore.
[23:41] <veryhappy> kinou: why?
[23:41] <urlin2u> daniel___, some help here I assume your running ubuntu, there is alsp ##linux, being specific of the devices is helpful. :)
[23:41] <nivyaj> veryhappy:  so in this directory, here's what i have
[23:42] <kinou> veryhappy: that's a very good question indeed. :)
[23:42] <urlin2u> also*
[23:42] <holstein> daniel___: i havnet had any issues with my driodX2 and ubuntu
[23:42] <nivyaj> laptop/usr/lib/jvm$ ls
[23:42] <kinou> I can use sudo halt. It stops the computer, but the screen is still on.
[23:42] <nivyaj> default-java  java-1.6.0-openjdk  java-6-openjdk
[23:42] <syn-ack> holstein, good.
[23:42] <ultrixx> kinou: go to terminal and type "sudo shutdown -r now"
[23:42] <kinou> I have to remove the battery afterwards.
[23:42] <Zer000> Hi all! I need help mounting an nfs drive (it's one of those nas devices by dlink...) I get a "mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting" error if I do "sudo mount 192.168.10.114:/ /media/nas" please help?
[23:42] <macmartine> Not sure what room this q is best for, but what would cause about 40+ instances of php5-fpm?
[23:42] <daniel___> @holstein, I have no idea why this started up but it's getting to be a pain
[23:42] <veryhappy> nivyaj: for posts please pastebin.com
[23:42] <jimi_> holstein, i wonder if my user needs to be in the pulse group?
[23:42] <syn-ack> holstein, I have a DX2 as well
[23:42] <veryhappy> kinou: does your acpi work?
[23:43] <dffaf> chmod -R 755 httpdocs it change all files and directories permission. I need to change only files permissions. what is the command for that?
[23:43] <holstein> daniel___: i would trouble shoot that it is not hardware... i would try a live CD.. an 11.10 live CD for example.. plug the USB hardware and test
[23:44] <holstein> jimi_: gksudo will get around that.. but no, that shouldnt matter since you are using pulse just fine otherwise i assume
[23:44] <WoC> dffaf, find /path/httpdocs -type f -exec chmod 755 {} \;
[23:44] <kinou> But anyway I can't halt with graphical tools.
[23:44] <jimi_> holstein,  :(
[23:44] <kinou> veryhappy: how can I check that?
[23:44] <kinou> I'll check dmesg & syslog for a start.
[23:44] <urlin2u> daniel___, are you unmounting with a right click safely remove device as well?
[23:44] <dffaf> WoC: you confused me.. i am in httpdocs directory now.. i have to chmod 755 {} \; ?
[23:45] <veryhappy> kinou: well you should get acpi as a running services on your pc
[23:45] <daniel___> @urlin2u, it won't even mount them. when I remove them I safely remove them usually
[23:45] <Star_Light> oops
[23:45] <daniel___> @urlin2u, but lets assume I didn't once
[23:45] <nivyaj> veryhappy: so which of the three do i set my JDK_home to? default-java  java-1.6.0-openjdk java-6-openjdk
[23:45] <kinou> I just found something that seems scary.
[23:45] <kinou> Feb  5 00:16:26 kinou kernel: [  623.100274] gnome-control-c[2891]: segfault at 0 ip 0ca3dc4e sp bfd8f500 error 4 in libuser-accounts.so[ca2f000+2a000]
[23:45] <dffaf> WoC: you confused me.. i am in httpdocs directory now.. i have to chmod 755 {} \; ?
[23:45] <kinou> Feb  5 00:16:32 kinou kernel: [  628.961489] gnome-control-c[2938]: segfault at 0 ip 18203c4e sp bfe91500 error 4 in libuser-accounts.so[181f5000+2a000]
[23:45] <veryhappy> nivyaj: don't use openjdk
[23:45] <kinou> :(
[23:45] <WoC> dffaf, you need a starting point for find just replace /path/... with what ever starting directory you want
[23:46] <veryhappy> kinou: didn't you find acpi?
[23:46] <urlin2u> daniel___, cool, hard to say if that is a factor but personaly I'm retentive with my externals that way.
[23:46] <trojan> terminal : su  -> Authentication failure  .. Im rusty , so must be doing something wrong?
[23:46] <holstein> urlin2u: me too... not even once for me :)
[23:47] <macmartine> Total newbie question here. I want to get swap to 0, right? It seems like with 1GB I should be fine when I'm pretty much just running nginx, mysql, postgres, right? So how do I go about figuring out what's causing this? https://gist.github.com/1741165
[23:47] <WoC> dffaf, such as; "find . -type f -exec chmod 755 {} \;" assuming you are in the topmost directory for the files you are to change the permissions of
[23:47] <bahamas> playing unreal tournament without sound is so sad
[23:47] <urlin2u> holstein, hehe I'm not surprised, kinda like a little vibrato when needed. :)
[23:47] <WoC> dffaf, ok ?
[23:47] <holstein> trojan: try sudo -s
[23:47] <daniel___> @urlin2u, anyways I'm normally pretty good about safely removing
[23:47] <dffaf> just a minute to try it :)
[23:48] <WoC> dffaf, if its just html files, they dont neex executable bit to be set
[23:48] <kinou> veryhappy: there are a lot of acpi stuff I didn't see anything scary.
[23:48] <kinou> I'll paste that.
[23:48] <WoC> neex/need
[23:48] <trojan> goos job , cheers holstein
[23:48] <urlin2u> daniel___, ubuntu is pretty forgiving there but the devices may not be, just guessing though.
[23:48] <holstein> trojan: :)
[23:49] <veryhappy> kinou: please paste it only on pastebin.com
[23:49] <schnuffle> macmartine: what means  get swap to 0? If you don't want a swap disable it
[23:49] <dffaf> WoC: approximately 10000 php files
[23:49] <ubukou> for some reason xfce fails when browsing style/themes.. weird thing is that when it does.. it looks like gnome/unity...i right click and i see gnomes options.. even the background changes... any ideas?
[23:49] <WoC> dffaf, php doesnt need exec bit
[23:50] <WoC> dffaf, i would suggest using 644 for php files and 755 for directories
[23:50] <macmartine> schnuffle: Well, I'm just new to this. Was told that it's good to keep the amount of used swap to 0. But I see your point. Someone at rackspace mentioned it
[23:50] <daniel___> @urlin2u, I'll check the devices for errors on windows but there shouldn't be anything wrong with them. I've recently reformatted the fuze and it was working fine then just stopped
[23:50] <macmartine> schnuffle: Just trying to figure out how much memory I need to have on my cloudserver
[23:51] <dffaf> WoC: Thank you very much :P everything is okay now
[23:51] <WoC> np dffaf
[23:51] <urlin2u> daniel___, you have to rember though that linux and windows are completely different so no erors in windows is not a cause and effect in linux.
[23:52] <kinou> veryhappy: I was on my way to do it. :)
[23:52] <kinou> http://pastebin.com/ZuU3Wu8G
[23:52] <schnuffle> macmartine: Threre is a parameter called swapiness. But I wouldn't touch it if you don't know how it works. The needed memory depends on your usage. You can run apache/mysql/php fine with 256MB but you can run into problems with 2GB RAM and only mysql
[23:52] <kinou> It takes some time since I didn't find any pastebin allowing to upload files.
[23:52] <veryhappy> kinou: ok, let me see
[23:52] <kinou> (And I don't have weboob installed)
[23:52] <daniel___> I figured it would be able to see problems in the memory I don't know how I'd check in linux without being able to mount them
[23:52] <nivyaj> veryhappy: I'm on the part where you edit the /environmnent. Here is my folder location: /home/nivyaj/bin/idea-IC-111.277/                 how do i put into thier syntax with the colons?
[23:53] <WoC> schnuffle, can swapiness be controlled by sysctl ?
[23:53] <schnuffle> macmartine: and keep in mind that after a while your memory will always be used. Linux takes the free space to use it as disk cache
[23:53] <schnuffle> WoC: I think so, let me check it
[23:53] <syn-ack> yep
[23:53] <veryhappy> kinou: looks good afaik
[23:53] <linux> This is the first time I've used IRC since '97. To get a list of channels I typed /list and the screen kept scrolling. How to stop that?  Should I type /list |more ?
[23:54] <syn-ack> ever since 2.6 dropped.
[23:54] <veryhappy> kinou: it should work
[23:54] <urlin2u> daniel___, have you been in the #android channel as well? you know how to search for or get a channel list I assume.
[23:54] <WoC> okm ty syn-ack & schnuffle
[23:54] <nivyaj> veryhappy: this is what they have in the directions..... PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/lib/idea-7364/bin"
[23:54] <Flannel> linux: /msg alis list #term-with-asterisks-for-wildcards
[23:54] <syn-ack> schnuffle, Were you around for 2.4's vm stack suckness?
[23:54] <holstein> daniel___: i would confirm the devices mount on other machines, and try and eliminate the hardware from the equation.. if its more than one USB device, the motherboard is a constant, and the OS, and your configuration... i have *never* had any issues with my X2
[23:54] <macmartine> schnuffle: So I noticed going to my site was ridiculously slow with 256MB and a lot of swap was used. So I upped it to 512MB and still noticed a bit of swap used so jumped it to 1GB. Is there some simple method for deciding how much is necessary? I don't want to pay for more than I need if it won't make much of a difference.
[23:55] <urlin2u> just for having all resources for help available.  daniel___
[23:55] <ikonia> macmartine: what are you doing on the machine ?
[23:55] <daniel___> It's a plain Droid X not X2. Also I think ubuntu decided to update to 11.04 on me, I must've accidentally hit the upgrade button
[23:55] <macmartine> ikonia: a Rails app, a couple Wordpress sites, and some backound jobs for sending emails
[23:56] <ikonia> macmartine: is this in a data center or on a home line ?
[23:56] <veryhappy> nivyaj: the colons will be used for dividing other paths, just append your path behind the last colons like : /home/nivyaj/bin/idea-IC-111.277 - without a slash behind the last directory
[23:56] <WoC> schnuffle, the higher swapiness the more active swap ?
[23:56] <schnuffle> macmartine: not really. As example: Runnig apache with some users won't use much RAM. As soon you get slashdotted RASM will increase till your server is blockng because of swapping around
[23:56] <macmartine> ikonia: rackspace
[23:56] <holstein> daniel___: still, if its more than one USB device, i would tend to look at the host... you can also put the install media you used for the 10.10 install in and run that live
[23:56] <ikonia> macmartine: how do you know ram is the issue ?
[23:56] <funnyfingers> syn-ack I lost connection... it may be the bind command?  I can't figure out mknod.
[23:57] <schnuffle> WoC: the higher the more swap will be used
[23:57] <IdleWarship> I have an ethernet cable, a Ubuntu machine and an iPad.  How can I set up an ad-hoc WiFi for the iPad to use?
[23:57] <macmartine> ikonia: b/c when i only had a 256mb slice it was crazy slow going to the site and app. When I upped it it became much faster.
[23:57] <WoC> schnuffle, ok, thanks :)
[23:57] <kinou> I have found new lines related to my problem: http://pastebin.com/kn857FYB
[23:57] <syn-ack> funnyfingers, What are you trying to do, exactly.
[23:57] <ikonia> macmartine: have you actually looked at what processes are consuming the resources ?
[23:57] <kinou> "Feb  4 10:44:50 kinou gnome-session[2137]: WARNING: Unable to stop system: Not Authorized"
[23:57] <schnuffle> syn-ack: I was around but it didn't affect me
[23:58] <holstein> IdleWarship: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessAccessPoint
[23:58] <kinou> How can I not be authorised when I'm in the sudoers and gnome-control-center doesn't ask me my password anymore?
[23:58] <syn-ack> schnuffle, man, it was horrible compared to today
[23:58] <daniel___> I might check that and/or run one of the saved old versions of ubuntu
[23:58] <Erealz> anyone trying out that new alfa?
[23:58] <veryhappy> kinou: if you want to use a graphical sudo then use sudogtk
[23:59] <syn-ack> schnuffle, I do remember laughing when 2.5 released and everyone was like "whats going on with my RAM?!?"
[23:59] <macmartine> ikonia: i ran 'top' and saw the list
[23:59] <holstein> Erealz: alpha? you mean 12.04? as discussed in #ubuntu+1 ?
[23:59] <ikonia> macmartine: ok, what's eating the ram ?
[23:59] <Erealz> yea
[23:59] <Erealz> just wondering about everyone thoughts on it
[23:59] <holstein> veryhappy: gksudo ?