[12:18] <freinhard> hi!
[12:19] <freinhard> does anyone know if nepomuk/datamanagement.h is shipped somehow with 4.7.4 or 4.8 on oneiric?
[12:19] <freinhard> can't find it this way: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=datamanagement.h&mode=exactfilename&suite=oneiric&arch=any
[12:20] <yofel> it's not, we don't ship the headers from kde-runtime
[12:21] <freinhard> just tried to build the nepomuktagmanager (see planet)
[12:22] <yofel> unless I missed something, kde-runtime isn't supposed to have anything that is a build-dependency of something else
[12:22] <yofel> you could use project-neon for development, the headers are shipped there
[12:23] <freinhard> thank you for the hint, i'll wait till there's a package, neon is not an option on a netbook ;)
[12:24] <yofel> freinhard: point is, we *intentionally* don't ship the headers. So unless there's a real reason to, there won't be a package for them
[12:25] <freinhard> yofel: i meant i won't wait for a package with the headers but a package with nepomuktagmanager ;)
[12:25] <freinhard> i get the point of not shipping them
[12:25] <yofel> ah
[12:25] <yofel> ok then :)
[12:25] <freinhard> maybe i'll just copy the headers from some sourcetarball for now
[12:41] <freinhard> would be good to have a package in the future, just saw that kde-telepathy copied the headers as well
[12:56] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[18:06] <BluesKaj> suddenly  I have a very herky-jerky response on the mouse cursor on my older pc , after the latest kernel upgrade ..am i alone in this ?
[18:06] <Peace-> BluesKaj: 12.04 works fine here
[18:06] <Peace-> :D
[18:06] <BluesKaj> Peace-,  yeah , fine here too , it's my other pc that has the problem
[18:15] <yofel> during scrolling? if yes see backlog of +1 from a few mins ago
[18:20] <BluesKaj> yofel,  not just scrolling , moving the cursor males it jump a little at a time rather than smooth movement
[18:21] <yofel> I'll try it later then, still running -13
[18:22] <BluesKaj> my usb/wireless logitech mouse won't work at all
[18:22] <BluesKaj> was working fine before the new kernel
[18:23] <Peace-> i have a problem with my mouse wifi... trust :d
[18:23] <Peace-> it doesn't work :D
[18:38] <Peace-> yofel: do you know why there is this sick ffmpeg build from libav developer instead of the natural ffmpeg?
[18:39] <Peace-> it sayss 
[18:39] <Peace-> This program is not developed anymore and is only provided for compatibility. Use avconv instead (see Changelog for the list of incompatible changes).
[18:41] <yofel> @_@
[18:42] <yofel> upstream changelog:
[18:42] <yofel> - ffmpeg deprecated, added avconv, which is almost the same for now, except
[18:42] <yofel> for a few incompatible changes in the options, which will hopefully make them
[18:42] <yofel> easier to use. The changes are:
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[18:43] <yofel> Peace-: here's the full cl: http://paste.kde.org/200510
[18:58] <Peace-> yofel: for what i know ffmpef standard is the best and it's complete 
[18:59] <yofel> well, as I see it our 'ffmpeg' has been provided by libav for quite a while 
[18:59] <Peace->  yes and it sucks 
[18:59] <Peace-> if you see for example ffprobe
[18:59] <Peace-> it can print video 
[19:00] <Peace-> stuff better thatn avprobe
[19:00] <Peace-> i guess av is just a silly fork 
[19:25] <DasKreecH> Riddell: ping