[01:29] <poyntz> hi all
[01:30] <poyntz> I tried sudo Xorg -config and Xorg 1: -config and it's stuffed up my display. How can I fix it?
[01:30] <poyntz> - by stuffed up, I mean things which are supported by my Graphics card now aren't
[01:31] <poyntz> - whitelines, virtualbox doesn't work (aka, when i load up the OS, it will open the login screen but I can't hit Windows)
[01:32] <poyntz> - I don't even have a xorg.conf file
[01:32] <poyntz> so no idea how I've managed to do it
[01:33] <poyntz> it couldn't be this could it? - http://paste.ubuntu.com/829548/
[01:34] <poyntz> basically I created a new file in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ called 52-vbox.conf
[01:34] <javier_> hola
[01:34] <poyntz> it contains everything in the paste above
[01:35] <javier_> hola a todo el mundo
[01:35] <poyntz> !spanish > javier_
[01:36] <javier_> es mi primer dia en este citio no tengo amigos ......!
[01:37] <ses1984> i am about to install 11.10 and i was wondering if the installer will partition my ssd correctly, i heard partitioning an ssd optimally and correctly
[01:37] <ses1984> often involves tweaking the start and end points of the partition precisely
[01:39] <javier_> si aca hay personas que hablen español, para charlar  si se puede.....
[01:40] <poyntz> !spanish | javier
[01:40] <javier_> gracias...
[01:40] <poyntz> pregos
[01:41] <poyntz> de nada
[01:43] <ses1984> http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?77769-A-Simple-How-To-on-Partitioning-and-Alignment-on-GNU-Linux-using-fdisk
[01:44] <ses1984> that's a "simple" guide to partitioning ssd drives in linux and it is many pages long. does the installer check all that stuff or is it better to partition manually?
[03:16] <debfan> .
[03:41] <psyrus> q: during my kubuntu install i opted to encrypt my home folder, i tried to make a password in term for it but i dont think i did it right, so how do i know if my home folder is encrypted, and how do i know what the pass is ?
[03:41] <psyrus> i'
[03:42] <psyrus> m not having any probs accessing my home folder, and there is no evidenceit's even encrypted
[04:23] <ses1984> i have expanded the 11.10 x64 iso to a usb key and installed to a new machine. 50% through installing updates, the machine became totally messed up
[04:23] <ses1984> so i rebooted, verified the disk, tested the memory and reinstalled. then the same thing happened
[04:24] <ses1984> if i open rekonq it says it can't handle http, and it opens up a bunch of gwenvideos with the images returned from the http request
[04:24] <ses1984> if i click on the k button, i can open the four programs that are shown there, but the rest of it is totally depopulated
[04:24] <ses1984> cant search
[04:25] <ses1984> i can right click n the desktop run command and get a konsole
[04:25] <ses1984> but i'm not sure how to back out of this borked update the right way
[04:49] <lorddelta> Hmm. Why is gnome-panel starting everytime I start kde?
[04:53] <lorddelta> Or rather where is the database file for the autostart settings that I found in ksystem settings
[04:54] <lorddelta> ...nvm
[04:57] <xiv3n> heyja
[05:04] <lorecaster> No idea if this is the right place... I can't seem to get my webcam to work in this new distro... it exists in the sound settings, registering properly, and even when it first installed it asked if i wanted to use my webcam to save my profile picture... now it won't work in skype OR Cheese. I heard routine updates can kill drivers... it's a GearHead webcam, not Logitech (notorious driver issues with those, i read). Any takers?
[05:05] <lorecaster> My blue-snowball microphone is also registering and not recording... but that's likely a seperate issue
[05:13] <lorecaster> Nothing? anyone?
[05:20] <photon> lorecaster: can't help you, but you have to be more patient. often times people get an answer hours after stating their question.
[05:23] <lorecaster> My usual limit is 10 minutes... if no one replies by then, I assume the room is empty and seek the answer on my own. I'm not green, but I am not proud either.
[05:24] <lorecaster> thanks though.
[05:26]  * photon sighs
[05:48] <pritoj> hello :)
[05:48] <pritoj> I'm  new to irc
[05:48] <pritoj> so could you plz tell me how i use quassel to connect to freenode
[05:48] <pritoj> ???
[05:48] <pritoj> anyone?
[05:49] <photon> you ARE connected to freenode.
[05:50] <pritoj> but the config says i'm connected to irc.ubuntu.com
[05:50] <pritoj> and i added irc.freenode.net to the list
[05:50] <pritoj> but i can't seem to use it
[05:50] <photon> irc.ubuntu.com redirects to irc.freenode.net
[05:50] <photon> it's basically one and the same.
[05:51] <pritoj> oh....
[05:51] <pritoj> sry about that. noob mistake
[05:51] <photon> you can /join #freenode if you are still not convinced. :)
[05:52] <pritoj> :) oh no i'll take your word for it.... just don't ask me to go to bash and type in rm * -R
[05:52] <pritoj> :P
[05:53] <pritoj> so I don't have much programming experience
[05:53] <pritoj> just php
[05:53] <pritoj> I know other languages but I don't know where to use them
[05:54] <pritoj> can you suggest a project which can be understood by me
[05:54] <pritoj> C/C++ or python doesn't matter
[05:54] <pritoj> plz
[05:55] <photon> what do you mean, suggest a project which can be understood by you? what exactly is it what you want to do? and btw, you are in the help channel for Kubuntu, there are other channels like ##programming #c++ #python ...
[05:57] <pritoj> A project which is not so complex that i'll be baffled by the so many files that i'll lose interest
[05:57] <pritoj> and yes I'm sorry about posing this queston here
[05:58] <photon> you still haven't told us what you actually want to do? if you want to learn programming languages, start by writing your own simple programs...
[05:59] <pritoj> I have done all the "text book" programs
[06:00] <pritoj> the point is i want to contribute to a proper project, the main reason i use php is I can do a lot very easily and put it up on server
[06:00] <pritoj> but when it comes to proper programming langs i can't get past those simple programs
[06:01] <pritoj> I tried to study up on tomahawk player
[06:01] <pritoj> but I couldn't get my head around all the files
[06:01] <pritoj> so i want a simpler project
[06:02] <photon> if you can't get past simple programs and still don't have much programming experience besides PHP, I don't think you'd be useful to a more complex project. I cannot suggest a simpler project, however. sorry about that. but again, other channels might be of more help.
[06:02] <pritoj> okay
[06:03] <pritoj> anyways hanks again for explaining the irc thing to me
[06:03] <pritoj> adios
[06:03] <pritoj> :)\
[09:06] <liudas> hello everyone, question: is it possible to disable showing / activating apps windows on desktop when hovering over icons in task bar with mouse, while keeping only small preview windows displayed
[09:22] <sentinel_> As i'm only one seem to be alive, and i don't know the answer - just try not to hover mouse above the taskbar :)
[09:23]  * photon shoots sentinel_ 
[09:23] <photon> now, you're dead, too.
[09:24] <liudas> sentinel_, :) yep, great solution :) i believe there is solution better than changing my ux :)
[09:29] <new2net> What does ctrl + alt + F1 (dont try this unless you know what it does) actually do to my X session; can I get it back somehow?
[09:30] <Tm_T> new2net: yes, by pressing ctrl+alt+F7
[09:30] <Tm_T> well, alt+F7 should suffice too
[09:30] <Tm_T> new2net: and it should do nothing to X session
[09:31] <new2net> thanks, you have no clue how many times I had my session freeze up and I had to kill a process but then couldn't get back... tried restarting gdm and x and 100 other things :)
[09:31] <Tm_T> I recall there's some bugs that do cause issues with changing tty, but yeah, bugs
[09:32] <Tm_T> haven't seen such issues for years myself I think
[09:34] <new2net> Tm_T, actually I have been using Unity with almost no bugs. The only thing it's been messing with is eclipse when I use ctrl+alt+[<|^|v|>] to switch screens.
[09:49] <Oxymoron> How do I install Acrobat Reader on x64 Kubuntu? I cannot find the package acroread and the debian package from Adobes website can only be isntalled on x86 systems ........
[09:49] <Tm_T> Oxymoron: Okular won't do?
[09:49] <TSK> I just use Okular for PDF files.
[09:51] <Oxymoron> Tm_T: Okular sucks, cannot read PDF properly as Adobe can. I cannot copy text and paste into Kate without problem.
[09:51] <Tm_T> Oxymoron: hmmm, I've been copying whole books without any issue
[09:52] <Tm_T> let's see whats the status with acroread
[09:52] <Oxymoron> Tm_T: I get weird character pastes, like very weird \t tabulars and spaces.
[09:52] <Oxymoron> I should copy programming code from Okular to Kate, and get compile error of wierd characters.
[09:52] <Tm_T> !find acroread
[09:53] <Tm_T> !info acroread
[09:53] <Tm_T> hmm
[09:53] <Oxymoron> Tm_T: I tried to find acroread on google, but without success.
[09:53] <Tm_T> Oxymoron: it's on partners repository
[09:54] <Oxymoron> Tm_T: I could try to force install x86 but from Adobes debian, into x64. but wouldnt it break it?
[09:54] <Tm_T> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding_Canonical_Partner_Repositories
[09:54] <Oxymoron> Tm_T: I have canoncial debian repos.
[09:54] <Tm_T> debian?
[09:55] <Oxymoron> Tm_T: Uhm or what it calls.
[09:55] <Tm_T> Oxymoron: see the url I pasted above (:
[09:56] <Oxymoron> Tm_T: Already looked there, but cannot find the url to paste into sources
[09:56] <Tm_T> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu oneiric partner
[09:58] <Oxymoron> Tm_T: Thanks, lets see if that works better :)
[09:58] <Oxymoron> Tm_T: If not, do you know if I can change settings in Okular to read documents UTF8 or paste different?
[10:03] <Oxymoron> Tm_T: In acroread, the copy worked perfect, hmm.
[10:04] <Oxymoron> Another problem in Okular is to copy text from multiple pages when you need to mark the text it doesnt scroll to another page, can only copy from one page xD
[10:10] <Tm_T> Oxymoron: I recall I had been copying multiple pages before
[10:11] <Oxymoron> Tm_T: i can do with Pg Up and PG Dn and copy all etc. But i cannot start mark with mouse on one point and then drag the marking area from one page to another :S
[10:14] <Tm_T> atleast it works some way for you, I guess it doesn't matter with what tools
[10:16] <Oxymoron> Well yeah it works, but quite annoying with things that doesnt work. Like the new Dolphin in KDE 4.8 that should be faster, rather slow down and freeze my system xD
[10:18] <Tm_T> hmmm, it's relatively fast here (:
[10:18] <Tm_T> is those animations that causes the issue?
[10:19] <Oxymoron> Tm_T: Not sure, I just now it freezes sometimes.
[10:20] <Tm_T> hmmm
[10:22] <Oxymoron> Tm_T: Frustrating, because freezes is one thing I do not want on Linux ... and expect from Winblows.
[10:27] <fenderovna_> hi all
[10:33]  * TSK hasn't had a freeze on Linux, Mac, or Windows in ages.
[10:34] <TSK> I count myself lucky, cause freezes annoy me utterly.  nvidia drivers used to cause me freezes on Linux allatime back in the old days.
[10:40] <Oxymoron> TSK: How do you do? :O
[10:40] <Oxymoron> TSK: 8 Core CPU, 10 GB RAM, SSD disk or what? :D
[10:47] <TSK> Oxymoron: I have a dual core CPU with 4 gig of RAM and about 4 TB of SATA HD space, and Kubuntu hasn't frozen on me in forever.
[10:47] <TSK> For about a month, this machine had Windows 7 on it, until I got sick of it and wiped it in favor of Linux, but Windows never froze on it either.
[10:48] <TSK> And at work we use Mac OS X which is Unix based and also hasn't froze on me for ages.  Modern operating systems seem pretty good that way these days as long as the hardware is up to par.
[10:51] <Oxymoron> TSK: Well, not working well on my laptop with Intel i3 latest 2.1 GHz, 4 GB RAM DDR3, Intel HD Graphics 3000 and 500 GB HDD.
[10:52] <Oxymoron> Both Winblows and Blinx fails.
[10:55] <TSK> Honestly, I've personally never had much luck with Linux on laptops myself, except my Acer Aspire One netbook.  For some reason that took Kubuntu flawlessly and all the hardware just worked without complaint.  Power management, wifi, bluetooth, everything.
[10:56] <TSK> First thing I did when I got the thing home actually was to boot it once in Windows, once in Android, and then boot it from Kubuntu USB and wiped both the other OS's and installed the Linux permanently.  :)
[10:58] <Oxymoron> TSK: Well it worked flawless on my old desktop PC earlier with Dual Core, 4 GB RAM, SSD and some crappy nVidia card-
[10:59] <Oxymoron> The problem seems to be low RPM on laptop, high heat in the laptop, crappy graphics or crappy graphic software in Linux, I dont know.
[10:59] <TSK> nVidia's drivers are pretty good these days, but a couple years ago they were real hit-or-miss.
[11:00] <TSK> Heat can be a real issue with laptops I know.  Have you tried one of those USB powered cooling pads?  You could test if that'd help before buying one by using your laptop on a box fan or somesuch for a while.  :)
[11:03] <Oxymoron> TSK: It is not very hot yet, pretty new laptop and the shell is in aluminium.
[11:04] <Oxymoron> I guess then the real problem is the laptop, how it is built
[11:04] <Oxymoron> Would need to be cooler with awesome SSD, and not any fans at all in the laptop, only integrated chips for everything etc.
[11:06] <TSK> Honestly, I wouldn't know.  My Acer is the first laptop I've ever had luck with Linux on.  Desktops and towers have always worked pretty excellent, but until recently laptops have been nothing but a pain for me on Linux.
[11:09] <Oxymoron> TSK: Yes, laptop is PITA. Same problem on both my Asus and Acer, both with NEW hardware, no luck.
[11:09] <Oxymoron> Companys generate lot of money on laptops that doesnt work xD
[11:10] <TSK> It's just plain bizarre that some laptops from Acer work with Linux with ZERO hassle, and others from the same company will fight to the bitter end no matter which OS you throw at them.
[12:32] <Mautz> Hey there! Got some trouble with booting from MARVELL raid after updating the BIOS; Ubuntu doesn't find the raid drive, which I used to boot from. Windows 7 does, so I think the raid itself is still ok. fdisk on live-system won't show the disk either. Could someone help me out please?
[12:45] <KuB_> hello! Can anyone help me choosing a dock for Kubuntu? Which is the best ?
[12:56] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:59] <James147> Mautz: fake raid on linux is quite flaky ^^ it recomeded not to use it if you can get away with it (software raid works excelently under windows, but not so well with windows :(  )
[13:00] <James147> KuB_: a dock?
[13:00] <James147> s/ under windows/under linux/  :)
[13:04] <Mautz> James147: thanks, i think i will downgrade the bios to backup my data and then just go along with two seperate device due to cross plattform problems
[13:10] <KuB_> James147, yes a dock..live avant-window-navigator
[13:14] <James147> KuB_: the panel not good enough?
[13:15] <KuB_> i need to put in a lot of util/program's launchers
[13:15] <James147> KuB_: the panel can hanel that, and there are widgets to make it better at it
[13:16] <KuB_> James147, thank you i'll try the panel :)
[13:17] <James147> KuB_: you will find that kde is very flexable, you should be able to make plasma-desktop do waht you want and there are allot of thrid part applets desiged for it when it dosnt quite do what you want :)
[14:39] <K350> Has anyone got the 'invert colors' under desktop effects in kubuntu to work?
[15:16] <Xevios> Hi.
[15:16] <Xevios> How i can isntall skype through terminal?
[15:31] <BluesKaj> Xevios, i just download and extract it, then use the redame for instructons depending on the version ...I usually use the static version
[15:58] <elijah> Somehow my spacebar is linked to page down in Chrome, what is the easiest way to find out where it is linked or change it?
[15:59] <Kvaks> How can I tell which xorg driver is currently in use on my system? Don't the Ubuntu installer install the Nvidia proprietary driver like the vanilla Ubuntu installer does?
[15:59] <shadeslayer> Kvaks: lsmod on a terminal
[15:59] <shadeslayer> it'll list all the activated modules
[15:59] <shadeslayer> elijah: uh, that's the default key binding for a page scroll
[16:00] <shadeslayer> no idea where it can be changed though
[16:00] <elijah> It appears I cannot find all shortcuts mapped to a given key in the global shortcuts gui
[16:01] <elijah> shadeslayer: Thanks, gtk, it is problematic because when I take a typing lesson at typingweb.com , everytime I hit space to go to the next word it pushes me to the bottom of the screen.
[16:08] <elijah> Does anyone know where to change the default binding for a page scroll?
[16:09] <elijah> I cannot find it anywhere in global shortcuts or keyboard shortcuts
[16:11] <elijah> Or, is there a way to search all keyboard bindings? It appears I can only search one at a time.
[16:20] <droetker> Anyone here who can answer a fre questions 'bout akonadi?
[16:22] <droetker> just read a few things about it - can one us it for other data that mail/contacts etc as well? AFAIK it is just an "interface" for the data, something like a database persistency objects framework?
[16:22] <droetker> is this possible?
[16:25] <droetker> e.g. (if I understood correctly) with a custom serializerplugin you could use it as DPO-Framework for ANY type of (e.g. CRM) data
[16:32] <shadeslayer> droetker: #akonadi might be able to advise
[16:33] <droetker> thx
[16:34] <shadeslayer> elijah: space works just fine here
[16:34] <shadeslayer> I tried the first tutorial, the one with j's and f's
[16:36] <Xevios> how i can add repo from terminal
[16:36] <elijah> shadeslayer: On Chrome, which version are you using?
[16:36] <shadeslayer> 18.0.1025.1 dev
[16:36] <shadeslayer> elijah: I'm using google-chrome , not chromium btw
[16:37] <elijah> shadeslayer: Thanks, I am on stable 16.0.912.77 so maybe I will try that. I am using Konqueror for right now, plus I have a paid account so maybe it changes if I log in, I will log out and try the first lesson not logged in. Thanks for trying that!
[16:38] <shadeslayer> elijah: okay, the package name is google-chrome-unstable if it helps
[16:38] <ts2> Xevios: use "apt-add-repository" (with sudo)
[16:38] <elijah> shadeslayer: Can I install that side by side?
[16:39] <shadeslayer> uhh ... not sure
[16:39] <shadeslayer> nope
[16:40] <elijah> shadeslayer: K, it works fine if I am not logged in so something else is going on.
[16:40] <shadeslayer> elijah: otoh, unstable has only crashed once for me so far
[16:40] <shadeslayer> hmm
[16:40] <elijah> Not really sure where to report the issue though, maybe the website or maybe Chromium?
[16:41] <Xevios> error, need a repo argument?
[16:41] <shadeslayer> wouldn't have the slightest idea, although since you pay for the service, i'd say start there
[16:41] <ts2> Xevios: see the output of "apt-add-repository --help"
[16:41] <pritojs> hey why is it that kubuntu fonts look so atrocious!
[16:41] <elijah> shadeslayer: K, thanks
[16:41] <shadeslayer> pritojs: atrocious as compared to what?
[16:41] <pritojs> I mean every thing on kde works like a charm
[16:41] <pritojs> compared to gnome/unity
[16:42] <pritojs> and it's using the same fonts
[16:42] <shadeslayer> pritojs: both of them use the same font family
[16:42] <pritojs> maybe some aliasing problem
[16:42] <shadeslayer> so I'm not sure how it looks any different
[16:42] <shadeslayer> probably
[16:42] <shadeslayer> they look just fine here
[16:42] <pritojs> anyone know how to fix it
[16:42] <pritojs> ?
[16:42] <pritojs> I'll put ueenshotp a scr
[16:43] <pritojs> i'll put up a screen shot
[16:43] <pritojs> gimme 5 mins
[16:45] <pawiecki> Hi guys. I've got a problem with screen refresh rate. I have 1024x768 resolution, and the refresh rate should be 85Hz max, but the only option to choose is Auto, or 60 Hz which is the same as auto. How to change this?
[16:46] <pawiecki> Got nvidia drivers and 9600GT graphics. Runing Kubuntu 11.10 with KDE 4.8 from backports
[16:48] <shadeslayer> pawiecki: one sec
[16:48] <shadeslayer> pawiecki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[16:48] <shadeslayer> actually
[16:48] <shadeslayer> wrong link
[16:49] <elijah> shadeslayer: lol, the "/" key somehow invokes search though in the lesson and interrupts the exam, damn flash
[16:49] <shadeslayer> 0.o
[16:49] <shadeslayer> pawiecki: I use : xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1440x900 --rate 60 usually
[16:50] <shadeslayer> but your display/resolution might be different
[16:50] <pritojs> http://sta.sh/2rqr4e0v9em
[16:51] <pritojs> @shadeslayer
[16:51] <pritojs> so here
[16:51] <shadeslayer> looking
[16:54] <shadeslayer> hmm
[16:54] <shadeslayer> pritojs: possibly increase font size?
[16:54] <shadeslayer> turns out I have sans serif
[16:55] <pawiecki> shadeslayer: this is a command to type in terminal?
[16:55] <shadeslayer> pawiecki: hah, no :D
[16:55] <shadeslayer> its under Quassel Settings
[16:55] <shadeslayer> or you could increase the font size systemwide in systemsettings
[16:56] <shadeslayer> under Application Experience > Fonts
[16:56] <Xevios> can you give me full command , with adding repo?
[16:57] <Xevios> got problem, having @need a repository argument@
[16:58] <pawiecki> shadeslayer: so where to type it in? :)
[16:58] <pawiecki> or where to change it
[16:58] <shadeslayer> pawiecki: press alt + F2 > type "systemsettings" > hit enter
[16:59] <harry_> hi all. i have a big problem. my ubuntu 11.10 loads every other time when i start. when its not starting it drops me on black screen (initramfs). and there the only thing i do is CTRL+ALT+DEL to restart sytem. anyone any idea? hp pavillion with nvidia ge force 7150M amd cpu.
[16:59] <pritojs> @shadeslayer : nothing really
[16:59] <shadeslayer> uhh
[17:00] <harry_> one more thing ... on this HP laptop pavillion dv 6700 the CD drive does not work.
[17:00] <harry_> anyone any idea?
[17:00] <pritojs> uploading screen with the increased font size
[17:02] <pritojs> @shadeslayer http://sta.sh/0r16db7nsa9
[17:02] <shadeslayer> pritojs: also force antialiasing
[17:03] <shadeslayer> personally, I use sans serif which is the KDE Default font
[17:04] <Xevios> Can install skype.How to?
[17:07] <pritojs> finally!!! @shadeslayer : antialiasing with sub-pixelrendering enabled works
[17:07] <BluesKaj> Xevios, i just download from the skype site http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/,  and extract it, then use the redame for instructons depending on the version ...I usually use the static version
[17:07] <shadeslayer> \o/
[17:07] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: or install from the repos :D
[17:08] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer,  dunno if it's in the repos anymore, I guess it's not there on 12.04
[17:08] <shadeslayer> !info skype precise
[17:08] <shadeslayer> huh :P
[17:08] <shadeslayer> !info skype oneiric
[17:08] <shadeslayer> thats interesting
[17:08] <BluesKaj> the static version has never been in the repos , and it works best on my setup
[17:10] <BluesKaj> due to static IP settings on our network interfaces
[17:18] <yofel> shadeslayer, BluesKaj: skype is in partner, not in the archive
[17:18] <shadeslayer> aha, I knew it
[17:19] <BluesKaj> odd , doesn't show here , i have partners enabled
[17:19] <BluesKaj> yofel, ^
[17:19] <shadeslayer> ^ likewise :P
[17:19] <yofel> no idea
[17:20] <yofel> ah, partner for precise is still empty
[17:20] <yofel>  *** 2.2.0.35-0oneiric2 0
[17:20] <yofel>          -1 http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ oneiric/partner i386 Packages
[17:20] <BluesKaj> yofel,  I have pidgin-skype in synaptic
[17:21] <shadeslayer> yofel: willing to merge bluez from debian? :P
[17:21] <yofel> no (unless you want me to do that post-FF)
[17:22] <shadeslayer> yofel: nah that's fine, I'll do it tonight
[17:22] <yofel> BluesKaj: which still needs skype installed if I understand the description right
[17:24] <BluesKaj> yofel, yeah that's right , I use the static so I DL from the site
[17:25] <yofel> ah. skype:i386 installed fine here so I'm using that
[17:26] <BluesKaj> yofel,  i forgot , I put a 32bit filter on my packages
[17:26] <BluesKaj> repos packages
[17:29] <zacarias> Can you make a distro upgrade without upgrading a specific package or application?
[17:30] <shadeslayer> zacarias: afaik you can hold packages to certain versions
[17:30] <shadeslayer> not sure if the upgrade script handles that situation
[17:30] <zacarias> shadeslayer: ok
[17:46] <Gerald> how how can ps only return the pid? ps run | grep pid ??
[17:47] <DasKreecH> Gerald: what are you trying to do?
[17:48] <Gerald> i want to know the pid of the program run
[17:48] <Gerald> process run
[17:48] <Gerald> it should only return the pid
[17:52] <DasKreecH> Gerald: you know the name of the program?
[17:57] <DarthFrog> Gerald: You could use "ps aux | grep <program name> to get its process listing, then use the "cut" program to return the PID field.
[17:57] <DasKreecH> ps x | awk '{print $1}'
[17:58] <DarthFrog> Or use awk instead of cut. :-)
[18:01] <Campi> good morning :)
[18:02] <DasKreecH> Good afternoon :)
[18:03] <liudas> :) good evening :)
[18:12] <Gerald> aux?
[18:12] <K350> Has anyone got the 'invert colors' effect in desktop effects in Kubuntu 11.10 to work?
[18:12] <DarthFrog> Gerald:  "aux" isn't really necessary, "x" will do.  I use "ps aux" all the time so it was motor memory when I typed it. :-)
[18:13] <Gerald> ps run | awk
[18:14] <Gerald> ps run | awk {print $1} says } mission :D
[18:18] <FujiontheCloud> Hello
[18:18] <FujiontheCloud> can i run kubuntu on a mac?
[18:18] <FujiontheCloud> and if so how to install?
[18:18] <DasKreecH> not sure what run is intended to do
[18:18] <DasKreecH> FujiontheCloud: Which Mac?
[18:19] <FujiontheCloud> iMac
[18:19] <DasKreecH> I meant Intel   Mc or PPC?
[18:19] <FujiontheCloud> Intel
[18:21] <DasKreecH> yes you can you just need a Bootloader. Refit should work
[18:22] <DasKreecH> Though I think the latest version of Kubuntu comes with an EFI loader
[18:22] <irina_> Q: Hi, i am trying to configure my ubuntu 11.10 to a screen resolution of 1240x640 but i have some problems with xrandr... can somebody help me?
[18:25] <Gerald> ps run | awk {print $1}          ..... says } mission...why?
[18:25] <Gerald> missing
[18:26] <DasKreecH> Gerald: you are missing the quotes
[18:26] <Gerald> why do i need them?
[18:29] <FujiontheCloud> can i use my magic trackpad with kubuntu btw is there support for it?
[18:29] <FujiontheCloud> ok ty for the answer btw DasKreecH
[18:29] <Gerald> im using matlab to call that
[18:29] <DasKreecH> Gerald: otherwise your } will go missing :)
[18:29] <Gerald> system('ps run | awk '{print $1}'')    ....unexpected EOF while looking for matching '
[18:30] <ts2> Gerald: a single quote is not a double quote
[18:30] <Gerald> i need the quotes for system....
[18:30] <DasKreecH> Gerald: try system("ps run | awk '{print $1'}")
[18:30] <DasKreecH> Gerald: try system("ps run | awk '{print $1}'")
[18:31] <FujiontheCloud> does kubuntu have any unique peripherals like the magic trackpad?
[18:31] <ts2> though, it's best to avoid system() like the plague
[18:31] <Gerald> i use sprintf in matlab
[18:31] <DasKreecH> FujiontheCloud: You can use it :) I'm not sure how deep the support for it is
[18:31] <FujiontheCloud> oh ok
[18:33] <Gerald> DasKreecH, ok wirks now ...but ps returns USER 1000
[18:33] <Gerald> why?
[18:33] <FujiontheCloud> Gerald:  are you french?
[18:33] <FujiontheCloud> where is the offtopic channel btw?
[18:33] <Gerald> no
[18:33] <FujiontheCloud> Gerald:  :)
[18:33] <DasKreecH> Gerald: cause youare using run I would suspect
[18:33] <ts2> Gerald: look at the output of "ps run", then see what "ps run | awk '{print $1}'" does
[18:34] <DasKreecH> !offtopic
[18:34] <FujiontheCloud> ty
[18:34] <DasKreecH> FujiontheCloud: Apparently it has support for it
[18:34] <FujiontheCloud> oh cool
[18:43] <Gerald> ts works now
[18:43] <Gerald> can i remove the PID from the string?
[18:43] <Gerald>  "ps run | awk '{print $2}'"
[18:43] <ts2> Gerald: to get just the last line, add "| tail -1" to the end of the command
[18:43] <DarthFrog> Gerald: You want the ps listing with the PID removed?
[18:44] <Gerald> i only want to see the number
[18:44] <Gerald> thx ts2 :D
[18:44] <DarthFrog> So what's wrong with "ps x | awk '{print $1}'?
[18:44] <Gerald> its 2
[18:45] <Gerald> "ps run | awk '{print $2}' tail -1"
[18:55] <Gerald> how can i find that process? http://codepad.org/xW4XUnJ9
[19:01] <DasKreecH> Gerald: Do you need to use run?
[19:01] <Gerald> run is a batch file to start java
[19:01] <Gerald> bash
[19:01] <zacarias> what's this packageitd that is using so much CPU?
[19:01] <Gerald> what is the opposite of tail?
[19:01] <KuB_> Does anybody have crash (Segmentation fault) of KWIN with Kubuntu 11.10 AND Lucid? It crashes at boot or when I active Desktop Effects!
[19:02] <Gerald> ok head
[19:04] <DasKreecH> Gerald: ... so you are looking for the process run?
[19:05] <DasKreecH> zacarias: it's looking for updates for packages I think
[19:05] <DasKreecH> You are not telling ps to use the instructions run?
[19:06] <Gerald> yes
[19:06] <Gerald> run is the bash fine
[19:06] <Gerald> file
[19:07] <Gerald> i also need to kill the java application which is started by run
[19:08] <DasKreecH> Gerald: try system("ps  x | grep run | awk '{print $1}'")
[19:09] <yofel> zacarias: that's the backend process for packagekit (use by kpackagekit/apper)
[19:09] <yofel> *used by
[19:10] <zacarias> yofel: ok.
[19:13] <masterplan> Äîáðûé äåíü
[19:14] <masterplan> íóæíà ïîìîùü
[19:15] <DarthFrog> masterplan:  Geshundheit!
[19:18] <tbruff13> can someone help me please
[19:18] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: Maybe
[19:19] <DarthFrog> Probably not.
[19:19] <DarthFrog> !ask
[19:19] <tbruff13> I am looking to see if ubuntu advantage supports kubuntu
[19:19] <DasKreecH> DarthFrog: well depends. if the help is with Kubuntu then probably!
[19:19] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: Could you give some more details?
[19:19] <DarthFrog> DasKreecH: But until he lets us know what help he needs ...
[19:19] <tbruff13> i am working with my local school board to put ubuntu into schools, and I thought that I would use ubuntu
[19:20] <tbruff13> but i have to use a LTS
[19:20] <DasKreecH> DarthFrog: Yeah there are a lot of problems in the world people need help with
[19:20]  * DasKreecH needs new shoes
[19:20] <DasKreecH> Stupid big GNOME sized feet :-(
[19:20] <DarthFrog> :-)
[19:20] <DarthFrog> tbruff13:  10.0 and the upcoming 12.04 are LTS.
[19:20] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: Right. What advantage are you looking for?
[19:21] <tbruff13> so i chose 10.04, but what i realized if i used regular ubuntu teachers would have to go from gnome 2.32 to unity
[19:21] <tbruff13> and that would be hard for them
[19:21] <DarthFrog> tbruff13: And if you're trying to put it into schools, Ubuntu, rather than Kubuntu, is probably a better choice.
[19:21] <tbruff13> DarthFrog: yes but KDE
[19:21] <DasKreecH> DarthFrog: I'd say edubuntu is better but ...
[19:21] <tbruff13> is easier for teachers to learn
[19:21] <ts2> lies! Kubuntu is always the better choice, just in general
[19:21] <tbruff13> and no unity
[19:21]  * DarthFrog agrees with DasKreecH
[19:22] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: How long till you have this choice to make?
[19:22] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: they told be edubuntu was not supported
[19:22] <DarthFrog> Kubuntu is better for power users.  Ubuntu is better for the hoi polloi.
[19:22] <tbruff13> by ubuntu advantage
[19:22] <ts2> what, exactly, is "ubuntu advantage"?
[19:22] <tbruff13> DarthFrog: in my experience with KDE it is more windows like
[19:23] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: This is true. of course if you have a contract with canonical that changes things somewhat
[19:23] <tbruff13> http://www.canonical.com/enterprise-services/ubuntu-advantage
[19:23]  * handheldCar has had a couple computers that hang when Kubuntu tries to shut down.
[19:23] <DasKreecH> If you don't then "support" doesn't have the same connotation
[19:23] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: bottom line i need to use KDE so do i have to install ubuntu and then install kde
[19:23] <tbruff13> and then remove ubuntu-desktop
[19:23] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: no there is a kubuntu CD
[19:23] <tbruff13> or can i just start with Kubuntu
[19:24] <DasKreecH> !kubuntu
[19:24] <ts2> tbruff13: I guess you'd need to ask Canonical if the support includes KDE or not
[19:24] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: i understand that there is a disc
[19:24] <tbruff13> but do they support it
[19:24] <DasKreecH> This is on the desktop I presume?
[19:24] <tbruff13> yes
[19:25] <DarthFrog> tbruff13:  You'd have to ask Canonical as they're the ones who provide the Ubuntu Advantage paid (I presume) support.  I tend to doubt it, though.
[19:25] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: Well as far as I know Canonical will accept support contracts for Kubuntu but you have to ask them specifically.
[19:25] <DarthFrog> As in Kubuntu started as an after-market offshoot, not an official branch.
[19:25] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: so should i start work on kubuntu or use ubuntu with KDE installed
[19:25] <DarthFrog> tbruff13: Ask Riddell, he's the founder of Kubuntu.
[19:26] <tbruff13> DarthFrog: how
[19:26] <DasKreecH> DarthFrog: I am
[19:26] <ts2> DarthFrog: that's not true
[19:26] <tbruff13> Riddell: are you here
[19:26] <DarthFrog> ts2: ?
[19:26] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: Thre is no difference between kubuntu installed on top of ubuntu or starting with kubuntu
[19:26] <DasKreecH> They use the same packages and the same servers
[19:26] <ts2> DarthFrog: Kubuntu is just as official as anything, it's just not the "flagship" product
[19:27] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: other then branding
[19:27] <tbruff13> which might be the issue
[19:27] <DarthFrog> DasKreecH: Actually there is.  One will also have GNOME installed, the other won't.
[19:27] <DarthFrog> ts2: True now but not at the start of Kubuntu.
[19:27] <ts2> DarthFrog: so, if I install XChat, it's not Kubuntu any more?
[19:27] <tbruff13> DarthFrog: no i wont i would have to remove ubuntu-desktop
[19:28] <DasKreecH> DarthFrog: <tbruff13> DasKreecH: bottom line i need to use KDE so do i have to install ubuntu and then install kde and then remove ubuntu-desktop
[19:28] <DarthFrog> ts2: Now you're being ridiculous.
[19:28] <DasKreecH> ts2, DarthFrog: Take it to #kubuntu-offtopic thanks
[19:28] <DarthFrog> tbruff13: Then you should install Kubuntu so you don't have to do the extra work.
[19:28] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: okay can anyone please help you dont know how many hours i have spent working on this this is my senior project
[19:28] <tbruff13> for school
[19:28] <ts2> DarthFrog: yes, I know :), but my point is that if Kubuntu is officially supported (and it's an LTS after all), then it stands to reason that Canonical would have (at least basic)  commercial support for it
[19:28] <tbruff13> and the school board is interested
[19:29] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: What is your question? :) can Kubuntu be supported by Canonical?
[19:29] <tbruff13> DarthFrog: i know you will hate me but are there windows themes for kde
[19:29] <tbruff13> yes
[19:29] <tbruff13> will ubuntu advantage work with kubuntu
[19:29] <ts2> tbruff13: ask Canonical
[19:29] <DarthFrog> tbruff13: No hate.  Use what you need for the purpose.
[19:29] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: Yes it will but you have to ask canonical
[19:29] <tbruff13> ts2: that is what i am trying to do
[19:29] <tbruff13> help
[19:30] <tbruff13> i cant find a number that is online now
[19:30] <ts2> tbruff13: see https://forms.canonical.com/sales/
[19:30] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: The largest rollout of supported Ubuntu was done using Kubuntu if reports are to be trusted
[19:30] <DarthFrog> DasKreecH: Really??  Wow.
[19:31] <Novell> what package is solid-powermanagement found in ?
[19:31] <DasKreecH> DarthFrog: canonical doesn't release figures or clients so it's hearsay but you can get pretty substansial support
[19:31] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: how much ram does kubuntu need
[19:32] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: Depends on what you need to run obviously but I would suspect 500 at a min to not teach the school children cursewords
[19:32] <DasKreecH> you would probably need to tune it or run it through a LTSP
[19:33] <DasKreecH> 1GB should be good once they don't start going crazy with desktop effects and opening Cantor scripts
[19:33] <DasKreecH> UNless your art clss is teaching on Krita :)
[19:33] <tbruff13> i cant install vbox guest additons
[19:34] <DasKreecH> is this a new question?
[19:34] <tbruff13> yes
[19:34] <tbruff13> I am running kubuntu 10.04 in a vbox
[19:34] <ts2> Novell: I don't think that exists at all
[19:34] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: It normally comes as an ISO that you load in the Virtual CDrom Drive
[19:35] <DasKreecH> Novell: which version of Kubuntu are you runing?
[19:35] <DasKreecH> running?
[19:35] <Novell> 11.10
[19:35] <Novell> ts2: it's referenced in kremotecontrol at least
[19:35] <tbruff13> i know
[19:35] <tbruff13> it wont install
[19:36] <DarthFrog> tbruff13:  Do you have the virtualbox-guest packages installed?
[19:36] <DasKreecH> !info apt-file
[19:36] <tbruff13> i am in sabayon as a host
[19:36] <tbruff13> ill check
[19:36] <ts2> Novell: what do you me it's referenced in it?
[19:37] <DasKreecH> hi BluesKaj
[19:37] <Novell> ts2: The suspend action template is trying to call solid-powermanagement
[19:37] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: kubuntu says gcc is not installed
[19:37] <tbruff13> i am installing it
[19:39] <DasKreecH> hi gnomefreak
[19:39] <ts2> Novell: well, as far as I can tell, there is no package containing a file called "solid-powermanagement" in the repositories
[19:39] <DasKreecH> Novell: What version of kremmmotecontrol?
[19:39] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: will gnome applications look like crap in kubuntu
[19:40] <Novell> DasKreecH: the one coming with KDE 4.7 or 4.8
[19:40] <Novell> tried both
[19:40] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: :-) possibly but they can feel pretty native. KDE does a lot of work to be nice to everyone
[19:41] <tbruff13> most of the packages for education are kde
[19:41] <tbruff13> libreoffice howerver is not
[19:41] <tbruff13> kde or gnome
[19:41] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: Correct
[19:42] <Novell> DasKreecH: 4:4.8.0-0ubuntu1~oneiric1~ppa1 is the exact version installed atm
[19:42] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: also is there any windows theme for kde
[19:42] <tbruff13> i know i suck
[19:42] <DasKreecH> Novell: Well it's certainly updated the last code push was a few days ago
[19:42] <tbruff13> but i have to ask
[19:42] <DasKreecH> Novell: Thanks
[19:43] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: yes quite a few. I would advise that you don't rely on those except in cases where people need them to continue work.
[19:43] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: Just for the perspective of maintaining them
[19:43] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: i was going to create scripts for removing
[19:44] <tbruff13> before upgrading
[19:44] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: treat this the same as migrating from Windows to Linux. It's almost a new platform so do your initial layout and timelines for how youwill maintain this over a 4 year period
[19:45] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: maintaining it is not my job my job is getting it started
[19:45] <DasKreecH> If you can find people who are willing to do a pilot get them on KDE as quickly as you can and have them give you feedback
[19:45] <tbruff13> the job of Canonical is to maintain  it
[19:45] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: ha ha no they have to support it. The school has to maintain it
[19:45] <DasKreecH> You still have to keep it standing under your own steam
[19:46] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: i am stuck
[19:46] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: Where?
[19:46] <tbruff13> kubuntu is started but i have no panels
[19:46] <tbruff13> or anything just wallpaper
[19:46] <tbruff13> and this little wiget selector in the upper corner
[19:47] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: click the widget and add a default panel
[19:47] <tbruff13> it wont let me
[19:48] <DasKreecH> can't right click?
[19:48] <DasKreecH> Novell: you have kubuntu-desktop package installed?
[19:48] <tbruff13> i restared the vm
[19:48] <tbruff13> maybe i should try vmware
[19:50] <tbruff13> it is screwed up already
[19:50] <zacarias> In, 11.10, I'm trying to do a dist-upgrade, following this : http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.8.0  but I can't upgrade firefox (because of compatibility with Zotero). But I can't keep Firefox from being updated. I tried to pin the app and other commands found by googling, but it akways tells me it wiill update Firefox. Any help?
[19:50] <tbruff13> i think i am going to start with ubuntu and install kde
[19:50] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: you need the additions to run kubuntu ?
[19:51] <tbruff13> maybe but it is not working
[19:51] <tbruff13> they wont install
[19:51] <DasKreecH> hmm
[19:51] <tbruff13> maybe it is a sabyon thing but i doubt
[19:51] <tbruff13> it
[19:51] <DasKreecH> zacarias: You could just install Kubuntu-desktop and it would pull up the KDE packages
[19:52] <zacarias> DasKreecH: But I have it installed.
[19:53] <DasKreecH> zacarias: does it need to be updated? :)
[19:54] <Novell> DasKreecH: yes
[19:54] <Novell> DasKreecH: This is pretty much a fresh kubuntu 11.10, just upgraded to KDE 4.8
[19:55] <DasKreecH> Novell: That could be a packaging bug
[19:56] <Novell> DasKreecH: it wasn't available in the default packages either (4.7 with updates)
[19:56] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: what do i do i am reinstalling now
[19:56] <Novell> so I tried to upgrade to 4.8, hoping it would solve it, but it didn't
[19:56] <tbruff13> KDE crashed after i installed gcc
[19:57] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: ;-/
[19:57] <DasKreecH> I would login to KDE in failsafe mode I think
[19:57] <zacarias> DasKreecH: actually no. I followed that link that I found on Kubuntu.org's homepage. I had a hope that it could solve some problems I found in this version that I didn't have in 10.10. Like the one I describe here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1920411
[20:04] <DasKreecH> Novell: is there a particular file it's looking for?
[20:04] <Novell> DasKreecH: solid-powermanagement executable
[20:05] <DasKreecH> ha
[20:05] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: do me a favor can you tell me if there is any reason why virtualbox guest additons would not install in kubuntu 10.04
[20:05] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: You went to the CD and ran the script file for the additions?
[20:06] <fernmont> hi all :)
[20:06] <DasKreecH> hi
[20:06] <DasKreecH> all isn't here right now. Would you like to leave a message?
[20:06] <fernmont> xD
[20:07] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: is there any reason you can think of
[20:07] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: you ran apt-get install dkms build-essential linux-headers-generic on kubuntu?
[20:07] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: do i need to
[20:07] <tbruff13> i will run it when it finishes installing
[20:08] <DasKreecH> Yes :)
[20:08] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: also is kde ram hungry
[20:08] <tbruff13> some people seem to think so
[20:08] <tbruff13> but i dont
[20:09] <tbruff13> i have not seen any difference between it and gnome 3
[20:09] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: It can be Esp with nepomuk and desktopeffects running
[20:09] <DasKreecH> I don't know that you need either for your situation
[20:10] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: how much ram are we talking about to run the environment and programs
[20:10] <tbruff13> would a computer with 1gig be able to run kde
[20:10] <tbruff13> well
[20:12] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: yes I was running it on 700MB
[20:13] <tbruff13> i am having trouble installing
[20:13] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: If you already have a Advantage contract with Canonical you should have a contact person to discuss moving to Kubuntu with
[20:13] <tbruff13> i accidently clicked the minus
[20:13] <tbruff13> button
[20:13] <DasKreecH> Which minus button?
[20:13] <handheldCar> nobody else requires this hack to turn of their computer— http://askubuntu.com/questions/43016/kubuntu-hangs-on-shutdown ?
[20:13] <tbruff13> the minimize
[20:13] <tbruff13> sorry
[20:13] <tbruff13> lol
[20:13] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: try alt+tab
[20:14] <tbruff13> it should tell me to reboot when it is done
[20:14] <DasKreecH> handheldCar: you have a samba mount as part of your filesystem?
[20:15] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: yes it should
[20:15] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: is there an a script that will detect a computer's specs and remove kubuntu effect if need be
[20:15] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: it ships with one
[20:15] <tbruff13> ok nice
[20:15] <DasKreecH> it does it automatically first time you login
[20:15] <DasKreecH> and again if you turn on effects.
[20:15] <handheldCar> DasKreecH: no, shouldn't
[20:16] <DasKreecH> handheldCar: that hack shuldn't be needed then
[20:16]  * handheldCar is saying kubuntu hangs without it
[20:19] <luke__> Hello.
[20:20] <BluesKaj> hey DasKreecH , was busy fixing the mess on my other pc :)
[20:20] <luke__> Just wondering if anyone knows the best Nvidia Driver version for aa geforce 9600M
[20:20] <luke__> Acer Aspire 6935g is the laptop ;P sorry to be a bother.
[20:23] <Novell> DasKreecH: I worked around it.. found some obscure dbus command and made it run a script with the command instead..
[20:23] <BluesKaj> luke__,  for nvidia , use the recommended driver in kmenu>apps>system>additional drivers , choose the recommended one and it will install , then areboot will hbe required ,...usually the rec'd driver is nvidia-current
[20:24] <DasKreecH> handheldCar: and you don't have any cifs mounts?
[20:24] <luke__> Okay Blues.
[20:24] <DasKreecH> Novell: ha :)
[20:25] <luke__> It's that I tried that last time and the Hz weren't matching up on the Kubuntu Display and the Nvidia settings.
[20:25] <luke__> So I ended up V-Tearing quite bad.
[20:26] <handheldCar> DasKreecH: I changed that to ext4 ext3 ext2
[20:27]  * handheldCar thinks that write-up was missing a couple notes ("username").
[20:27]  * handheldCar doesn't have samba installed.
[20:29] <zacarias> any help with this?: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1920411
[20:51] <basy_> Hi, how to disable cube desktop switching by mouse wheel in kubuntu ?
[20:53] <basy> Hi, how to disable cube desktop switching by mouse wheel in kubuntu ?
[20:53] <DarthFrog> !patience
[20:53] <DarthFrog> Or you could set it in System Settings.
[20:59] <basy> cant find that in System settings, where exactly ?
[21:30] <fatum> hello. Not sure if it is completely related, but my html 5 seems to be not working. I have tried chromium, chrome and firefox, but in all, e.g. youtube videos aren't working properly..
[21:30] <fatum> oh, I'm on Kubuntu 11.10
[21:31] <fatum> I am not even completely sure if it's html5 problem
[21:40] <pawiecki> Hi, i have a problem with setting the right resolution with refresh rate. Now i have 1024x768 and it blinks with 60hz. It's a regular LG CRT monitor so my eyes are about to explode... I'm using Kubuntu 11.10 with nvidia proprietary drivers and in system settings or nvidia's x server settings app i can't set resolution higher than 1024x768, but the worst thing is that there's nothing higher than 60 Hz which is pretty uncomfortable
[21:44] <pawiecki> Is there a way to set resolution or refresh rate manually to some sane values? On the resolution i'm using currently the monitor should use up to 85Hz but it's only 60 and another option is 50... This problem appeared few days ago, probably with some updates
[22:12] <AciD_> hi
[22:12] <AciD_> I just switched to 4.8. It's great !
[22:12] <AciD_> by any chance, is it only me or ctrl+u shortcut doesn't unmark mail as read anymore ?
[22:12] <zacarias> any help with this?: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1920411
[22:15] <AciD_> zacarias: still the same bug on 4.8, on libreoffice
[22:29] <zacarias> AciD_: allright. So, no fix for it? Because it makes some apps unusable. I'll have to use them with Gnome Ubuntu, or Lubuntu, and that's a pitty.
[22:30] <AciD_> zacarias: I'm just a user, and from what I see in the new 4.8, there is no fix for that
[22:33] <zacarias> AciD_: It's funny, becaus with me everything works with Libreoffice (except the poor aspect of the buttons and window elemenys, I don't know why) but this black menu and background problem happens with other apps, like Miro, Vuze, Thunderbird, Firefox, etc.
[22:34] <AciD_> zacarias: firefox menu are ok as well as other java apps like freemind. Go figure..
[22:35] <fatum> is 4.8 buggy or can I switch already? also, how to?
[22:35] <DasKreecH> fatum: Hmm?
[22:36] <DasKreecH> It can be buggy and you can switch to it. They are not incompatible :)
[22:36] <DasKreecH> hi tbruff13
[22:36] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: can you help me out
[22:36] <tbruff13> Whenever i install virtualbox kubuntu crashes on reboot
[22:37] <fatum> DasKreecH: aaand my other question, how do I?
[22:38] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: you there
[22:39] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: to be clear. You install Virtualbox within Kubuntu or you install Kubuntu Within virtualbox ?
[22:40] <tbruff13> Kubuntu within virtualbox
[22:40] <DasKreecH> how does it crash?
[22:41] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: it just never boots
[22:41] <tbruff13> it is stuck at where i see kubuntu
[22:41] <tbruff13> and the dots
[22:41] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: ah could you boot it with the nosplash option?
[22:41] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: i dont know how
[22:41] <DasKreecH> :-)
[22:41] <tbruff13> and will this issue happen out of a vm
[22:42] <tbruff13> remember i am making this into a cd for the school i cannot have it unstable
[22:42] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: I couldn't tell you. I don't know what's making it freeze. when you are booting there is a moment when it says press any key for the menu
[22:42] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: virtualbox has a bios
[22:43] <DasKreecH> press your any key and then press ctrl+E then the second line I think and press ctrl+E again to edit it
[22:43] <DasKreecH> at the very end of the line type nosplash
[22:43] <tbruff13> ok i have a snapshot without virutalbox guest additons
[22:44] <tbruff13> is there anyway i can have it come back with a splash
[22:44] <tbruff13> when i compress it to a cd
[22:44] <tbruff13> and install it on another computer using remastersys
[22:46] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: sure it may be something Vbox related or it could just be something silly like a midi server not liking the (virtual) video card
[22:48] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: it boots without vbox guest additons
[22:48] <tbruff13> do i need them
[22:49] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: I've never needed them so I can speak for myself. Not sure what your case may be
[22:49] <tbruff13> okay i will leave them out
[22:54] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: installing build-essential it fixed the lag
[22:54] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: Not sure why that would be so but hooray
[22:58] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: can i safely remove konqueror
[22:58] <tbruff13> kpackagekit is hard to use
[22:59] <tbruff13> how do i remove a package in kpackagekit
[23:00] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: search for it and then click remove
[23:00] <tbruff13> i cannot see a remove
[23:00] <DasKreecH> Konqueror is useful to have
[23:00] <tbruff13> i see default
[23:00] <tbruff13> help
[23:00] <tbruff13> and reset
[23:00] <FloodBotK1> tbruff13: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:01] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: how did i flood
[23:01] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: if it is installed there should be a remoe button beside the name. Choose something like kalzium and install it
[23:01] <DasKreecH> then see how it gets a remove button beside the name
[23:02] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: would it be stupid of me to install synaptic
[23:02] <tbruff13> or do it by command line
[23:02] <tbruff13> i mean if i can
[23:02] <tbruff13> if i cant figure it out
[23:02] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: no that would be fine
[23:02] <tbruff13> can i remove kpackage kit and will synaptic look like crap
[23:03] <DasKreecH> tbruff13: yes you can. I don't know what synaptic will look like for you
[23:07] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: synaptic looks like crap
[23:07] <tbruff13> all old
[23:07] <tbruff13> can i fix that
[23:08] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: well i will only be using synaptic until i finish then i will be removing it
[23:08] <DasKreecH> fair enough
[23:08] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: how can i make it look better
[23:08] <tbruff13> synaptic is easier to use then kpackage kit
[23:09] <tbruff13> but i would much rather put ubuntu software center on the disc
[23:09] <tbruff13> for teachers
[23:11] <DasKreecH> install software-center then
[23:11] <DasKreecH> Why are the teachers being given rights to install what they want? :)
[23:11] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: they are assigned computers to each teacher
[23:11] <DasKreecH> Ah ok
[23:11] <tbruff13> the teacher is allowed to do what they want within reason
[23:12] <tbruff13> but for thin clients and labs
[23:12] <tbruff13> it is different
[23:12] <tbruff13> we dont have any thin clients for now
[23:12] <tbruff13> will LTSP work with Kubuntu
[23:16] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: you still on
[23:16] <DasKreecH> Yes
[23:16] <DasKreecH> LTSP will work
[23:20] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: will kde's extra ram requirements be an issue
[23:20] <DasKreecH> on?
[23:20] <tbruff13> and is there anyway to scale those down
[23:20] <DasKreecH> LTSP?
[23:20] <DasKreecH> Sure just stop using resources that you won't need
[23:20] <tbruff13> ok
[23:20] <tbruff13> no effect
[23:21] <tbruff13> would be a start
[23:21] <DasKreecH> Right
[23:21] <DasKreecH> If you are not going to be using mail or have a shared contact facility like LDAP then turn off Akonadi
[23:22] <DasKreecH> if you are not going to be doing indexing then nepomuk and strigi can be turned off
[23:23] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: ok this will all be done on another virtualbox of kubuntu made for ltsp
[23:25] <tbruff13> DasKreecH: does kmail work like thunderbird
[23:25] <DasKreecH> umm... I guess.
[23:25] <DasKreecH> It gets mail
[23:25] <pawiecki>  i have a problem with setting the right resolution with refresh rate. Now i have 1024x768 and it blinks with 60hz. It's a regular LG CRT monitor so my eyes are about to explode... I'm using Kubuntu 11.10 with nvidia proprietary drivers and in system settings or nvidia's x server settings app i can't set resolution higher than 1024x768, but the worst thing is that there's nothing higher than 60 Hz which is pretty uncomfortable. Is there a
[23:25] <pawiecki>  way to set resolution or refresh rate manually to some sane values? On the resolution i'm using currently the monitor should use up to 85Hz but it's only 60 and another option is 50... This problem appeared few days ago, probably with some updates.
[23:32] <pawiecki> Any ideas? :/
[23:33] <DasKreecH> pawiecki: if you know the settings just put them in an xorg.conf
[23:37] <pawiecki> where's this file?
[23:53] <DasKreecH> pawiecki: in /etc/Xorg but you have to create it
[23:53] <DasKreecH> Curses thought I pressed enter on that a long time ago