[00:01] <Erealz> heyyy
[00:01] <Erealz> hey everyone what everyone thought on that alfa ?
[00:01] <skierpage> It's unfortunate that you can't report update-manager bugs in Launchpad, guess I have to get a debian bug account or something.
[00:03] <penguin42> hey?
[00:03] <Erealz> what everyone thoughts on that alfa 2?
[00:04] <urlin2u> Erealz, that it is a alpha and not to run it as a main os or upgrade to it. :)
[00:05] <Erealz> is that new move-a-bull now?
[00:09] <skierpage> Distribution Upgrade's tree list of new packages it's adding is nice, but I can't copy and paste it. Is there a log file somewhere with the same info?
[00:10] <urlin2u> Erealz, not sure what you mean if your addressing me.
[00:10] <urlin2u> you're
[00:11] <penguin42> skierpage: /var/log/dpkg.log has all the package activity
[00:11] <Erealz> im just asking what do you "guys" think of the alfa 2 release
[00:13] <urlin2u> Erealz, the ubuntu unity seems fine on my end
[00:13] <urlin2u> and gnome 3
[00:14] <skierpage> Erealz, you can also read forum threads for a sense.
[00:20] <skierpage> penguin42 True, dpkg.log will record the eventual package-foo. But /var/log/dist-upgrade/{main,apt}.log have the details I seek, e.g. "2012-02-04 16:14:10,257 DEBUG Install: aptdaemon bluez-alsa:i386 ca-certificates-java blah blah ......."
[00:20] <penguin42> ah ok
[00:26] <skierpage> It seems a lot of stuff that Kubuntu doesn't need is getting pulled in "as Depends of ia32-libs-multiarch". Oh well, disk space is cheap ;-)
[00:31] <skierpage> "Distribution Upgrade" urges me to close everything, so bye and thanks for all the fish. I think I've got a Fedora and BrowserLinux live USBs lying around for emergencies.
[00:45] <coz_> hey guys, so far everything seems to be working well :)
[00:47] <penguin42> bug 925785 is the most annoying PP bug I've had so far
[00:53] <FernandoMiguel> good nite
[00:55] <ryaxnb15> mm,, precise pangolin
[00:55] <ryaxnb15> a 2GB download for me
[01:00] <ryaxnb15> surprisingly small with all my apps
[01:10] <snadge> its the shiznitz man!
[01:23] <penguin42> good
[02:37] <jakubo> hi, how can i revert unity back to using black panel? unity --reset didnt work, aswell as the other 2 advices given on ubuntuusers.com. it seems unity cannot find some icon themes, but is that the reason not to load the top panel correctly?
[02:37] <jakubo> its correct in the guest session though
[02:38] <Stanley00> jakubo: did you setup some compiz configs?
[02:38] <jakubo> not that i knew of
[02:39] <jakubo> i tried to reset compiz too (hint no2 i think)
[02:39] <Stanley00> jakubo: you could try "gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/compiz-1/"
[02:40] <jakubo> i think i tried that
[02:41] <Stanley00> hmm, I think you should backup your home, and then delete some hidden folders
[02:41] <jakubo> gconftool or gconftool2?
[02:41] <Stanley00> jakubo: it is the same, I think
[02:42] <jakubo> then i already had that
[02:43] <jakubo> also killing gnome settings daemon reactiviting it and restarting nautilus
[02:43] <jakubo> however it didnt really work well
[02:43] <Stanley00> jakubo: ah, I think you need reogin after reset unity. Did you try relogin?
[02:44] <jakubo> why is that?
[02:44] <jakubo> relog and not reboot?
[02:44] <Stanley00> reboot is better, but I think relogin is enough and it's faster ;)
[02:45] <jakubo> i rebooted my pc many times since
[02:46] <Stanley00> jakubo: can you give a screen shot of your screen?
[02:46] <jakubo> oh and i did that with deleting former sessions data stored in xml files
[02:48] <Stanley00> jakubo: can you give me a screenshot of your screen?
[02:48] <jakubo> well its easy to describe: the top bar is grey without most indicators, having the gnome fallback stuff, and some icons are missing
[02:48] <jakubo> just a sec, i have to change pc
[02:50] <SeraphX> re
[02:51] <SeraphX> how can i post the screenshot?
[02:52] <Stanley00> !paste
[02:53] <SeraphX> !paste?
[02:54] <Stanley00> SeraphX: you can use "http://imagebin.org/?page=add"
[02:57] <SeraphX> http://imagebin.org/197356
[02:57] <SeraphX> there you go
[02:58] <Stanley00> ok
[03:00] <Stanley00> SeraphX: and it's OK in guest session, right?
[03:00] <SeraphX> except for one thing... the launcher.... some icons there are completely missing, and obviously you couldnt read the complete thing in the console about the icon themes
[03:00] <SeraphX> yes thats correct
[03:01] <SeraphX> any idea?
[03:02] <Stanley00> SeraphX: not sure, maybe delete some compiz relate config folder, or maybe backup your home, and then create new home folder, copy some config you need back?
[03:03] <SeraphX> you think the home folder is somehow corrupted?
[03:03] <Stanley00> SeraphX: "cd && find -iname "*compiz*"" will list them all, make sure you have a backup first :D
[03:03] <Stanley00> SeraphX: yep, I think so
[03:06] <SeraphX> so if i delete them and reinstall compiz i shal be fine?
[03:06] <Stanley00> SeraphX: just delete and reboot, you dont have to reinstall compiz
[03:07] <SeraphX> is there a nice way to delete them without typing every single one of them?
[03:09] <Stanley00> SeraphX: I dont know much about bash, so... did you backup first?
[03:09] <SeraphX> the files?
[03:10] <Stanley00> SeraphX: I think all your home folder is best,
[03:10] <SeraphX> ah, ok, theres hardly anything important there
[03:11] <Stanley00> SeraphX: and by the way, you could use xargs to delete them all, like this "find -iname "*compiz*" | xargs rm -rf"
[03:11] <SeraphX> cool thx
[03:11] <Stanley00> SeraphX: you are welcome ;)
[03:12] <SeraphX> ok
[03:12] <SeraphX> deleted
[03:12] <SeraphX> now reboot?
[03:13] <Stanley00> SeraphX: yes, and good luck! ;)
[03:13] <SeraphX> erm... thx.. guess its too late now
[03:16] <jakubo> im alive, yet nothing changed
[03:18] <jakubo> hey stan, nothing changed
[03:19] <Stanley00> jakubo: hmm..
[03:20] <Stanley00> jakubo: the last method, backup your home, delete all, then recreate it
[03:22] <jakubo> would it be possible to create a new folder and rename it to home? altering the name of the old one as backup?
[03:25] <Stanley00> jakubo: first, you must logout , then press "Ctrl Alt F1" login in text mode, run "sudo su" then " cd /home ; mv <yourhome dir> <newhome>" ; mkdir <your homedir>"
[03:25] <jakubo> just what i had in mind
[03:25] <jakubo> but ill go to bed first
[03:25] <jakubo> thx for trying
[03:26] <Stanley00> jakubo: good night :)
[03:26] <jakubo> bye
[07:42] <crizzy> this mouse input bug is baffling
[09:23] <trijntje> what is the new trigger for showing the unity launcher? I cant seem to make it appear after the latest updates
[09:23] <pangolin> the super key
[09:23] <pangolin> aka windows key
[09:27] <trijntje> that still works, but it used to be that you could also get it by moving the mouse to the left of the screen. Now that only seems to work 1/10 times
[09:28] <Rovanion> I'm in a bit of dependency hell it seems. apt-get doesn't want to upgrade and aptitude suggests removing 243 packages
[09:29] <Rovanion> Should I just ignore upgrading for a while?
[09:37] <ophelias_> hello all
[09:37] <ophelias_> have a problem...installed HUD, pressed Alt nothing happens...
[09:37] <ophelias_> any ideas?
[09:39] <trijntje> ophelias_: did you reboot afterwards? for me it worked after a reboot
[09:39] <ophelias_> yes.. I did but let me do all over again and see.. there is nothing to
[09:40] <ophelias_> turn on... just press Alt right?
[09:41] <trijntje> yes, it should be enabled by default
[09:48] <trijntje> pangolin: found it, you need to move your mouse 'past' the left border of the screen at *moderate* speed
[09:48] <ophelias_> hello all... having a problem with HUD. installed it. restarted computer
[09:48] <ophelias_> twice..still it's not showing up
[09:51] <ophelias_> press Alt. nothing.. only time Alt works it with apps.. any ideas?
[09:51] <trijntje> ophelias_: I just noticed HUD stopped working for me as well. You should probably ask in #ubuntu-unity
[09:52] <ophelias_> alright... thnks for your reply
[10:21] <addy747> hello
[10:21] <addy747> any one here for help me over ubuntu problem
[10:21] <addy747> pleae
[10:21] <addy747> please
[10:22] <bazhang> addy747, ask a question
[10:22] <addy747> thank
[10:23] <bazhang> addy747, are you using 12.04
[10:23] <addy747> i m using ubuntu 8.10 in toshiba
[10:23] <bazhang> !8.10
[10:23] <addy747> but i m unabel to run internet in it via lan cabel
[10:23] <addy747> yes i know what to do not function internet over it
[10:23] <addy747> in my office
[10:24] <addy747> tell me how to run internet via lancabel in ubuntu
[10:24] <bazhang> addy747, you wish to upgrade to a supported version? please lets move this to #ubuntu , as this channel is for 12.04
[10:24] <addy747> ok
[10:24] <addy747> then where i can get help
[10:24] <addy747> please tell me
[10:25] <bazhang> #ubuntu   <------ addy747
[10:25] <addy747> ok
[11:47] <jokerdino> hey guys.
[11:48] <jokerdino> i am having problems with the global menu
[11:48] <jokerdino> it just doesn't appear.
[11:55] <ian_> Just trying out 12.04 alpha 2 using an Oracle VirtualBox VM - lots of problems with repainting the desktop
[11:57] <biborn> hello guys. i just wanna ask about ubuntu 12.04 alpha release. is it better than 11.10 in performance?
[11:57] <bazhang> biborn, its alpha 2, so no
[11:58] <biborn> but in 11.10 when i launch the system monitor there is a lag in between..i have tried on several computers and the result is the same.
[12:02] <biborn> bazhang, if i install 12.04 alpha now, can i just upgrade it when it is released later? i mean upgrade by just using sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:06] <Daekdroom> Ambiance is now too white D:
[12:08] <bazhang> !final | biborn
[12:08] <bazhang> ah he quit
[12:16] <jokerdino> hey guys. what package offers global menu?
[12:16] <jokerdino> After upgrading, I can't see the global menu.
[12:56] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:59] <penguin42> Hey BK
[13:04] <BluesKaj> hi pen
[13:29] <Guest18752> hi
[13:30] <Guest18752> Will ubuntu 12.04 LTS work whit my boardcom 4353 wifi card & ATI radeon hd 5650? and is it more stabile than 11.10?
[13:30] <Guest18752> its only a alpha realease iknow
[13:30] <Guest18752> but 11.10 issent a LTS?
[13:31] <BluesKaj> Guest18752,  no, 12.04 is the next LTS
[13:33] <Guest18752> kk, i just downloaded the DVD, 12.04 iam runing 10.04.3 atm - got some problems like video card - when i play movies in vlc, every mediaplayer it laggs like a VHS movie kinda retro, got a problem in 11.10 that it froze 24/7
[13:34] <Guest18752> but everyting worked out of the box whit 11.10
[13:34] <Guest18752> 10.04.3 dident suport my boardcom 4353 out of the box so wass a hassle when i wass living whit only a wifi connection, no cabel :/
[13:34] <BluesKaj> Guest18752,  I personally didn't find 11.10 as stable as I'd like , of course that depends a lot on your hadware and choce of desktop etc. I run KDE and 11.10 with it wasn't satisfactory IME
[13:36] <BluesKaj> Guest18752,  odd because broadcom usually works without much setup required
[13:36] <Guest18752> BluesKaj, i got a ATI radeon HD 5650 graphic card, hp envy 14, i7 cpu and 8gb ram 240gb ssd
[13:37] <coz_> hey guys, ctrl+alt+delete used to bring up the shutdown dialog UI,, now it brings up the log of UI,, anyone know the new command for that?
[13:37] <Guest18752> BluesKaj, i needed to download 4 packages, i thank my live dvd for making that happend
[13:37] <Guest18752> :)
[13:37] <coz_> or keybinding
[13:38] <Guest18752> BluesKaj, only problem i got in 10.04.3 lucid is that my graphic card dont work optimal, videos looks like VHS movies, etc..
[13:39] <Guest18752> i have tryed to install open driver, the ubuntu driver, it dont work as it shud
[13:42] <Guest18752> iam on the edge to eather sell my laptop or install windows for preformance :/ thats sound wird windows for preformance^
[13:43] <acicula> Guest18752:  why are you using 10.04?
[13:43] <Guest18752> cus 11.10 froze all the time...
[13:44] <coz_> never mind I found the command
[13:44] <coz_> /usr/lib/indicator-session/gtk-logout-helper --shutdown
[13:44] <Guest18752> somthing buggy whit X, it froze for like a min 24/7 it wass a pain in the ass to work whit
[13:46] <Guest18752> so i installed 10.04.3 lucid cuz some one recomanded it for stability and preformance, it runs mutch faster than 11.10 yes but the grapich card driver isent working well, and movies looks like vhs
[13:46] <Guest18752> acicula, ^
[13:46] <acicula> Guest18752: probably because 10.04  recent drivers for your system
[13:47] <acicula> *lacks*
[13:47] <sKew^_-> acicula, its me Guest18752
[13:48] <sKew^_-> i got dissconnected
[13:48] <penguin42> sKew^_-: I'd say it's got a pretty good chance with the Radeon
[13:48] <BluesKaj> Guest18752, the proprietary flgrx driver supports your card , you probly neeed to download and install it fgrom ati 's driver site , since the Ubuntu officially supported ATI card list doesn't include the Radeon 5650
[13:48] <sKew^_-> penguin42, 12.04 lts?
[13:49] <sKew^_-> BluesKaj, hmm..
[13:49] <penguin42> sKew^_-: yeh 12.04, The open drivers should work (won't be that fast for games, works OK here for non-game stuff on an HD4350), it's not unusual for the frglx drivers to only work just before the release happens, but it's worth trying
[13:49] <BluesKaj> sKew^_-,  ^
[13:50] <sKew^_-> btw when did amd and ati become one?
[13:50] <penguin42> sKew^_-: Year or so ago, AMD bought ati
[13:51] <sKew^_-> kk i see
[13:51] <crizzy> more like 5 years ago
[13:51] <crizzy> :P
[13:51] <sKew^_-> BluesKaj, u meen this one http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx ? or a manual flgrx driver from terminal?
[13:51] <penguin42> the driver explicitly lists 5670 as being supported
[13:51] <acicula> sKew^_-: when your 11.10 crashes were you using the amd binary drivers or using the intel integratedvideo
[13:52] <crizzy> 5650 will work just fine
[13:53] <sKew^_-> acicula, how whud i know? i installed the proprietry driver from ubuntu "hardware drivers"
[13:54] <acicula> hmm good question, i have no idea actually if or how ubuntu can switch between the two gpus these days. id guess you were using the binary driver when you were experiencing hangups.
[13:54] <sKew^_-> hehe, probebly
[13:55] <acicula> sKew^_-: trying a newer binary driver might solve it, simplest might be to try the live-cd of ubuntu+1 and see if it still crashes
[13:56] <BluesKaj> acicula,  what makes you think he has the dual gpu setup ?
[13:57] <sKew^_-> acicula, i tryed to follow this guid http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1238129  but my hdmi card dident work well
[13:57] <sKew^_-> wass just colur no real image
[13:57] <bjsnider> the card may be supported by the driver but the driver likely isn't supported by the newer kernel/xorg
[13:57] <acicula> BluesKaj: i assumed he had the dual core i7 with igp and discrete amd
[13:57] <acicula> since afaik they do not put quads in anything smaller then 15" laptops
[13:58] <BluesKaj> acicula,  you may be right , but sKew^_- isn't aware of this switching between cards
[13:58] <sKew^_-> Processor	8x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU Q 720 @ 1.60GHz
[13:59] <sKew^_-> 	Linux 2.6.32-38-generic (x86_64)
[13:59] <sKew^_-> kernel ^
[13:59] <BluesKaj> sKew^_-,  run lspci | grep VGA , in the terminal
[14:00] <sKew^_-> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Redwood [Radeon HD 5600 Series]
[14:00] <acicula> yeah thats a quad, so no internal igp
[14:00] <acicula> err
[14:01] <sKew^_-> thats a tuad if u ask me ;P bahh i dont know how to switch grapichs ;P
[14:01] <acicula> correction, they make quads with igp
[14:01] <acicula> but this one doesnt have an igp, so just the discrete video
[14:01] <acicula> http://ark.intel.com/products/43122/Intel-Core-i7-720QM-Processor-(6M-Cache-1_60-GHz)
[14:02] <sKew^_-> btw what does this meen? Clock Speed	1.6 GHz
[14:02] <sKew^_-> Max Turbo Frequency	2.8 GHz
[14:02] <sKew^_-> i can clock it to 2.8 ghz?
[14:02] <acicula> it should autoturbo to that yeah
[14:03] <acicula> but only if its not to hot and it wont do that with all cores loaded
[14:03] <acicula> i have an  i7 at 2.8Ghz, pretty sure its not turboing to 3.5Ghz at full load or it would be burning a hole in the laptop
[14:03] <acicula> dual core though
[14:05] <sKew^_-> haha okok i see, damn iam so frustrating whit this laptop, its a powerfull laptop if all drivers work, but i like ubuntu, and iam kinda sick of windows whit "Ctrl+alt+delete" to kill prosses and it cant kill prosses as easy as "ctrl+t+ps x+ kill XXX"
[14:05] <sKew^_-> and it fails to kill prossess
[14:05] <sKew^_-> in windows...
[14:06] <acicula> eh?
[14:06] <sKew^_-> iam just talking giberish
[14:06] <sKew^_-> i dont wanna go back to win, i want my laptop to work whit ubuntu,
[14:07] <sKew^_-> grapichs as wlan card :)
[14:07] <sKew^_-> iam gonna do a clean install soon,
[14:08] <sKew^_-> ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS or 12.04 LTS, depens of witch one will run my grapichcard best.
[14:08] <acicula> try the #ubuntu+1 livecd, or try 11.10 and look into updating the graphics card, or stick to the open source driver for awhile (its the one installed by default)
[14:10] <sKew^_-> how do i switch betwin the radeon card and intergrated?
[14:10] <sKew^_-> acicula, kk i will try that tomorrow when i have both a cd, dvd
[14:11] <acicula> sKew^_-: you only have one gpu in the laptop, i made a mistake by guessing there were two
[14:11] <acicula> sKew^_-: so no switching
[14:11] <sKew^_-> acicula, okok thx :)
[14:11] <sKew^_-> hmm
[14:13] <sKew^_-> http://linuxenvy.blogspot.com/2011/01/tackling-switchable-graphics.html but its a i5 envy 14
[14:13] <sKew^_-> :/
[14:13] <sKew^_-> maby i just read alot wrong ;P
[14:14] <acicula> the envy 14 was also sold with a dual core i5 with has an igp on the chip
[14:14] <acicula> package even
[14:14] <sKew^_-> kk i see
[14:15] <sKew^_-> heare is the spec of my model, envy-14-1190eo
[14:15] <sKew^_-> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&objectID=c02530940&jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN
[14:16] <sKew^_-> dissconnected again
[14:16] <sKew^_-> :S
[14:16] <sKew^_-> damn unstable wl driver for boardcom ;P iam gonna do a clean install soon ;)
[14:17] <BluesKaj> sKew^_-,  your actually better off with just one decent graphics card from a user friendly standpoint , those dual switching gpus are abig problem on linux
[14:18] <sKew^_-> BluesKaj,  yeah i know, i have heard that switchable cards and linux isent a good thing
[14:19] <BluesKaj> I think that driver you posted above is the way to go, sKew^_-
[14:20] <sKew^_-> yeah i will try it, just deactivate the first one and unstall cataclysem
[14:21] <sKew^_-> thats the rigth way to do it?
[14:23] <sKew^_-> brb reboot before i install new driver
[14:45] <bjsnider> cataclysm? that's an appropriate name
[15:22] <edgy> Hi, I logged in ubuntu/unity and the icons to the left disappeared, how can I fix this or at least shutdown or log off?
[15:25] <Daekdroom> edgy, press <Super> and see if they show up
[15:25] <Daekdroom> What might be happening to you is that you're unable to reveal them with the mouse cursor.
[15:25] <Daekdroom> (like I am)
[15:25] <edgy> Daekdroom: by <super> you mean win-key?
[15:26] <Daekdroom> Yes.
[15:26] <jokerdino> hey guys, i have upgraded to unity 5.2.0 and i don't have a global menu
[15:26] <jokerdino> what should i be doing?
[15:27] <edgy> Daekdroom: win-key does nothing for me
[15:27] <edgy> jokerdino: I think we are facing the same problem
[15:28] <edgy> jokerdino: did win-key works for you?
[15:28] <jokerdino> I can see the launcher icons.
[15:28] <jokerdino> win-key shows the launcher and shortcut hint overlay
[15:31] <edgy> jokerdino: I can't see the launcher to the left
[15:31] <edgy> jokerdino: then what do you mean by global menu?
[15:31] <jokerdino> the app menu.
[15:32] <edgy> jokerdino: do you know how I can launch a terminal or shutdown unity if I can't see the launcher?
[15:32] <jokerdino> Ctrl + Shift + T opens terminal
[15:32] <jokerdino> waiat.
[15:33] <jokerdino> Ctrl + Alt + T opens terminal
[15:35] <edgy> jokerdino: both didn't launch any terminal
[15:41] <edgy> jokerdino: I was disconnected, any update?
[15:42] <jbicha> edgy: you can get to a virtual terminal with Ctrl+Alt+F1; use Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back to your display
[15:43] <jbicha> make sure you have all of the Unity updates from Friday
[15:44] <jbicha> from the virtual terminal, you can sudo shutdown if you like
[15:46] <edgy> jbicha: unfortunately, I am launching the machine as a guest so those c-a-Fx keys won't work
[15:53] <jbicha> edgy: can you open a file browser/nautilus ?
[15:59] <edgy> jbicha: yes, I can create a new folder and then double click it
[16:01] <edgy> jbicha: ?
[16:02] <jbicha> edgy: ok, then navigate to /usr/bin and click on gnome-terminal
[16:04] <edgy> jbicha: ok, thanks a lot, that worked ;)
[16:05] <jbicha> edgy: make sure unity's installed and that you have the latest updates
[16:05] <jbicha> if that still doesn't work, you could try clearing your compiz settings
[16:29] <Guest92715> hi
[16:41] <mortal> good work everyone, even my touchpad/nipple works on thinkpad with precise
[16:41] <mortal> with oneiric I had to use the lucid kernel to have it work
[17:09] <penguin42> mortal: Your nipple is our priority
[17:19] <FernandoMiguel> :)
[17:23] <yofel> that's called trackpoint if we want to be correct ^^
[17:23] <yofel> now if my eeePC's touchpad wasn't weird in precise I would be happy too
[17:28] <penguin42> yofel: I mean to try my eeePC with precise; I reinstalled mine with oneiric (again) and found the touchpad didn't work
[17:45] <yofel> no touchpad issues in oneiric, in precise the cursor doesn't stop when I stop moving my finger
[17:45] <crizzy> also mouse scroll tops randomly responding in precise :/
[17:46] <yofel> that works here, but when I scroll using the touchpad on my thinkpad it sometimes jumps up before going down
[17:46] <penguin42> crizzy: bug 925785
[17:47] <penguin42> that's the most annoying bug I've seen in Precise so far
[17:48] <crizzy> ah
[17:48] <crizzy> yes indeed
[17:48] <crizzy> i can't play quakelive or warsow anymore, binds fscked because of it
[17:50] <penguin42> crizzy: Actually I'm not sure if that is your bug, it's certainly the one I'm seeing and sounds like the one Yofel describes as well
[17:50] <yofel> yeah, that sounds very much like what I'm seeing
[17:50] <crizzy> penguin42: well, likely it is related somehow
[17:51] <penguin42> very very annoying in irc windows
[17:53] <crizzy> penguin42: it does sound like my problem.. doesn't respons first, then floods the input
[17:53] <yofel> what I'm seeing on my eeePC is bug 924747
[17:53] <yofel> you can't really do any precise selection with that...
[18:04] <BluesKaj> suddenlyI have a very herky-jerky response on the mouse cursor on my older pc , after the latest kernel upgrade
[18:05] <BluesKaj> oops wrong channel
[18:41] <OldManMagnus> hi. i've got nothing in my top toolbar. no clock, no system thing. anyone else having this?
[18:42] <penguin42> no, all present and correct here
[18:43] <OldManMagnus> hmm.
[18:43] <OldManMagnus> maybe it's because i installed a load of stuff like ubuntu studio.
[18:44] <OldManMagnus> thanks penguin42
[18:45] <penguin42> so this HUD thing - where is it?
[18:45] <Daekdroom> penguin42, not available by default?
[18:45] <Daekdroom> And the PPA has outdated unity: 5.1
[18:45] <penguin42> oh
[18:46] <Daekdroom> and it has some annoyances like it can only find results that match if you type part of the word.
[18:46] <Daekdroom> and it keeps showing up when watching fullscreen videos in totem. Not usable yet at all.
[18:47]  * penguin42 had assumed if they were going to release it as part of 12.04 that it would be in the alphas by now
[18:47]  * Daekdroom never saw any indications they'd release it as part of 12.04
[18:47] <Daekdroom> (including the fact that it's not in the repos yet, but that's circular logic, I think)
[18:48] <penguin42> hmm I'd only assumed it as well
[18:49] <penguin42> 'Although not available in the general repositories as of this writing (2012-01-24), HUD will be packaged with unity 5.2 or later and will be distributed to everyone running precise with that update.'    hmm I'm not quite sure what that means either
[19:48] <EvilResistance> penguin42, "That is not currently available in Unity, however that will be released as an update later for Precise"
[19:57] <gnomefreak> ?
[19:59] <penguin42> EvilResistance: It doesn't tell me whether later is before or after precise release
[19:59] <EvilResistance> penguin42, perhaps they dont know yet, in which case patience is a virtue :P
[20:00] <gnomefreak> what?
[20:00] <EvilResistance> gnomefreak, scrollbacks
[20:00] <gnomefreak> oh
[20:00] <EvilResistance> <penguin42> [02/05/12 13:49:29] 'Although not available in the general repositories as of this writing (2012-01-24), HUD will be packaged with unity 5.2 or later and will be distributed to everyone running precise with that update.'    hmm I'm not quite sure what that means either <-- relevant line
[20:00] <EvilResistance> gnomefreak, ^
[20:03] <gnomefreak> see if this helps http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/tag/design
[20:04]  * gnomefreak off
[20:09] <bjsnider> hud is available in a ppa i think
[20:18] <codepal> ubuntu tweak is crashing when I try to change inactive window transparency :(
[20:46] <autif> mono's latest version is 2.10.8.1 - however, 2.10.5 is in the apt repositories. How is the version for a package that goes into a release decided? Thanks!
[20:54] <jtaylor> 2.10.8 is on its way
[20:54] <jtaylor> it was delayed due to a tool broken
[20:59] <autif> awesome! thanks jtaylor
[21:05] <jtaylor> 2.10.8.1 is a beta, I'm not sure we will get that
[21:15] <autif> thats fair
[21:18] <phibxr> Has the user wallpaper feature been disabled again recently in LightDM?
[22:20] <Alperen> hi how can i activate ubuntu HUD?
[22:21] <Alperen> i am pressing the ALT key but nothing happens
[22:25] <Alperen> anyone?