[10:37] <OwaisL> Can someone help me out with GtkClutter please? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9148557/gtkclutter-actor-signals-not-firing
[21:43] <micahg> jbicha: are you aware of the MIRs needed for your eximdoc4 sync?
[21:45]  * micahg is wondering why that's in the desktop set at all, but that's for another time
[22:10] <jbicha> micahg: oh, I did test-build it here but my chroot has universe :(
[22:12] <micahg> jbicha: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.txt
[23:01] <jbicha> micahg: so since nothing depends on it, eximdoc4 should be dropped to universe, right?
[23:03] <micahg> jbicha: it's seeded on the dvd, seemingly since exim4 is in a server seed
[23:04] <stgraber> gah, micahg was faster again ... I was about to paste a grep from the seeds ;)
[23:04] <jbicha> what do I checkout so I can grep for packages like that?
[23:05]  * micahg is wondering if maybe we should drop it anyways, that was when exim4 was shipped on the server cd
[23:05] <jbicha> it takes a while to search through http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/
[23:05] <stgraber> micahg: AFAIK exim4 isn't on a media, but it's still widely used so it's very likely in a supported seed (I know at least IS uses that)
[23:05] <stgraber> jbicha: http://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds
[23:05] <micahg> right, so who needs to be in the loop about dropping it from the DVD seed
[23:06] <stgraber> jbicha: I usually have the official ones for precise locally so I can grep through them
[23:07] <stgraber> jbicha: you can also grab them from http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/seeds/ (they are bzr branches, so you can just bzr branch from there too)
[23:08] <stgraber> micahg: I'd poke cjwatson about it, according to a quick bzr blame, he's the one who put it there (or copied/moved it from somewhere else). I don't think people really care about this though ;)
[23:08] <micahg> right, ok, will do
[23:09] <micahg> right, he did this almost 4 years ago :)
[23:10] <stgraber> :)
[23:11] <stgraber> I remember looking for when a change was introduced last week (to try and justify that "it's been there forever"), to actually find it was done in rev1 of a UDD branch with a warty changelog entry ;)
[23:12] <stgraber> (after having to do 3-4 successive bzr blame as the code in question moved around quite a bit in all these years)
[23:13] <micahg> yeah, I think I'll just drop it
[23:13] <micahg> the docs don't really help if it's not on the media anyways
[23:18] <micahg> hmm, neither package seems to be on the DVD according to the manifest
[23:22]  * micahg saw a line in the seed that makes asking seem reasonable again
[23:31]  * micahg replies to the component-mismatch e-mail
[23:36] <RAOF> Bah!  Show
[23:37] <RAOF> Bah!  Show-desktop in alt-tab is now destructive again :(
[23:41] <micahg> ok, mail sent
[23:42] <RAOF> Um.  What the hell is the GTK change which prompted http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-control-center/commit/?id=7f5733b454e26c882d4e707b57cd03b104f57dd2 ?  This also seems to apply to GTK2, and it broke applications (specifically, *my* application, GNOME Do).  Why is GTK2 still receiving application-breaking changes?!