[00:00] non-evil [00:01] lock-in annoys the piss out of me [00:03] lock-in is how they all make money [00:04] i understand that [00:04] it still annoys the piss out of me [00:05] it is good business from the company's point of view. it is annoying from their customers' [00:05] i guess i just got old and accepted it. [00:05] it used to piss me off too [00:05] it is easier to accept it [00:06] costs a little more, but easier [00:06] kind of like religeon [00:06] fighting it is just as religeous. [00:07] i boycotted amazon for 10 yrs over 1-click [00:07] to what end? [00:07] not enjoying the luxury of puchasing from amazon. [00:07] the only one who got hurt was me. [00:07] your conscience was happier [00:10] we have to make value judgments all of the time. not using apple is one i can make right now without undue hardship on myself [00:10] if i end up getting heavily into mobile i may have to change my tune [00:15] my conscience was happier, you are right. [00:17] if we boycotted everything we should we'd have to live in caves in the desert [00:18] true [00:18] so i say pick a few that mean a lot to you and that maybe you have a chance of influencing [00:19] "its not that i like the empire, i hate it. but there is nothing i can do about it right now" [00:23] limited will power [00:33] nah. [00:33] its not a matter of will [00:37] i think it is. if i had the willpower to abandon my family i'd be occupying DC until they fix the software patent laws [00:38] turn into RMS [00:41] is that really the best action you could take to effect change? [00:41] I don't think it is. [00:45] http://askearache.blogspot.com/2012/02/scorn-on-earache-1992-1996.html [00:56] JoDee's in the other room playing "Just Dance 3" [01:00] o_O [01:02] why do I know scorn? [01:04] they've been around for 20 years [01:04] just dropped off the face of the earth in 2011 [01:05] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQW6GUlakWY&feature=related === _stink__ is now known as _stink_ [03:29] jrwren: what version of FF? I've tested it ok in FF9 on ubuntu. Do you get any console errors/etc? [03:30] 10 on osx :( [03:30] i'm not sure... it might be me. [03:30] it renders weird too. [03:30] really? hmmm, looks fine in FF9 on linux. wtf...can you screenshot and check the console for me when you get a chance? [03:31] I rewrote the tag control using my own code so anything that's wrong I should be able to get fixed, just didn't realize it had issues [03:31] jrwren: make sure you clear the JS cache I guess [03:31] jrwren: since I don't cache bust urls yet, maybe you're in upgrade limbo between releases on the server? [03:32] when i get a chance. [03:32] jrwren: appreciate it, sorry it's giving you issues :/ [03:33] i am usually using bookie in the middle of doing stuff at work, so i can't always take time out to investigate. [03:33] i've no complaints. [03:33] glad to have the service [03:33] but i'll find some time soon [03:33] jrwren: understand, I'll see if I can figure out a way to run some tests. [03:33] Worst case I can fire at some online browser test things and check it out there [03:33] nah, don't waste your time. odds are its me. [03:33] knowing FF10 and OSX helps [03:33] with my noscript nonsense :) [03:34] jrwren: oh yea nothing works without JS, but it should all be hosted from the server under HTTPS with nothing external but a GA link which should fail gracefully [03:38] i'm trusting bookie.us... but no others. [03:38] you using CDN js at all? [03:39] yeah, nothing external, so it should all work. [03:39] jrwren: no, it's all hosted via my own combo loader app now [03:39] was using a cdn for stuff for a short tim [03:39] time that is [04:21] Just saw Wall-E [04:22] Yes, I know I'm late to the party. [04:22] excellent movie :) [04:22] Yeah, it is [04:51] I would like to amend the socially accepted Calendar to include more hours in the weekend. [14:36] Good morning [14:45] yes [14:46] very sparse crowd at meijer's this morning. cinnamon rolls now. children's museum later. [14:54] So I'm not the only American now watching the super bowl? [14:56] is it on already? [14:57] I hope not [14:58] then how are you watching it now? [15:06] tjagoda is actually from the future [15:06] a future where we are all using Blackberry phones [15:06] oh damn [15:06] s/now/not [15:06] not you're talking [15:06] ;) [15:08] I come from a future in which you have all seen the wisdom of giving me all your money. [15:08] Please do so now. [15:09] And like most time-travelling stories, I will not be swayed by a man from the future [15:09] Haven't you watched enough Star Trek? [15:09] HE IS ALWAYS TRUSTWORTHY! [15:10] Only if it's a federation ship [15:10] the rest: notsomuch [15:11] I'll spraypaint federation decals on my house. [15:11] i plan to do that to my van [15:12] Your gonna put a captain chair in the back with a seatbelt for your son [15:12] a viewscreen of TNG episodes [15:12] and then swerve and slam on brakes during every battle? [15:13] like this http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Chaffee_type_shuttlepod [15:13] (roger b chaffee was from GR) [15:14] http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/File:Chaffee_Type_shuttle_CGI_model.jpg [15:14] i have a silver toyota sienna, so i think it could work [15:15] I approve of this. [15:16] http://www.blog.thesietch.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/100_1610.JPG [15:16] http://www.automopedia.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/startrek-tngshuttle.jpg [15:16] http://www.automopedia.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/startrek-originalshuttle.jpg [15:17] I don't think that will work. :) [15:17] I like the hubcaps [15:18] Kind of impressive if they can survive an expressway [15:18] yeah, probably no nacells [15:20] tjagoda: i haven't decided if i'll watch. [15:20] since i'm not sure when it starts, i guess i'm leaning toward no. [15:21] I'll watch my remastered TNG episodes instead. [15:21] Because they look like beautiful. [15:21] i must get this remastered TNG [15:21] They only have a sampler out atm [15:21] do you ever listen to Startalk podcast with Niel deGrasse Tyson? [15:21] by 2015 they'll have re-released all the seasons in HD. [15:21] Y'know, the DVDs are nice. [15:22] Does HD really add much to it? [15:22] if you really like trek, you must listen to the nichelle nicols episode and whoppie goldberg episodes. some VERY interesting startrek bg there [15:22] Also, did they try to "fix" thinkgs [15:22] The effects, as it turns out, have ludicrious more detail that was lost in the old format video [15:22] and negative, they did not fix [15:22] i hate it when they try to "fix" things [15:22] which is why its still 4:3 aspect ratio [15:22] fuk george lucas and the new FX and geedo shooting first [15:22] because they would have had to retouch effects to make it widescreen [15:23] tjagoda: Well, they tried fixing TOS [15:23] Basically, old film re-captured with better cameras which actually show all the detail that was originally there [15:23] and that put me right off [15:23] TNG is the right way to remaster [15:23] TOS is the wrong way to remaster [15:23] They might re-record some of the music tracks, not sure about that [15:24] tjagoda: Why? [15:24] They sound much clearer [15:24] dunno if thats from just a lot of processing or not [15:25] Probably to make it sound better on tinny speakers [15:25] Though are they re-recording, or remastering? [15:25] Huge difference between the two [15:26] http://trekmovie.com/2011/11/14/new-trailer-for-star-trek-tng-remastered/ [15:26] See and believe [15:26] not sure I want to see the actresses in HD. [15:26] they looked good when I was 12 [15:27] in HD, they will look gross. [15:27] i'm sure marina sirtis is still hawt [15:27] dunno...i'll bet not [15:28] and gates mcfadden? no way. [15:28] although I guess she did look good on Dream On [15:28] But inner light is remastered [15:28] you can see Picard play a flute IN HD [15:29] nice. [15:29] Actually, they did redo the effects [15:29] They did not [15:29] They did [15:29] They had to [15:29] They did not! [15:29] The ship in the old series wasn't high definiition [15:29] There is an explanation somewhere [15:29] dude, upscale converstion [15:29] but there is a lot of detail on the original film that is just lost in transfers [15:29] I remembere they had to do the CGI models over again for the movies [15:30] Thats only if you widen the aspect ratio I believe [15:30] ffmpeg | upscale | prettyfilter | ffmpeg TADA! [15:30] zomg, use your brains. [15:30] they don't HAVE to. [15:30] ffmpeg TADA [15:30] they wanted to, to get even better quality [15:30] i'll have to check out that filter [15:31] its awesome. [15:31] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacecraft_in_Star_Trek#Balancing_digital_and_physical_models_in_films_.281994.E2.80.932002.29 [15:32] early on they were models, but later on they started using more CGI [15:33] like when they introed borg? [15:33] And I remember eading somewhere that they detail on the early CGI and early enterprise models weren't detailed enough [15:33] the bog was a model, iirc [15:33] Bah, borg [15:33] maybe the first episodes [15:33] the later ones were cgi for sure [15:34] Well, when they started doing movies, they moved some of the assets to CGI, yes [15:34] The early models were quite brittle [15:34] http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/CGI [15:35] Star Trek was notorious for holding out on CGI [15:36] very surprised [15:36] i had no idea. [15:36] Yeah, and DS9 you can tell twhen they moved to CGI [15:36] early on, there's not much in the intro sequence. Then they start adding ships and shit [15:38] oh yeah. [15:38] i'm remember that. [15:38] it was pretty funny that they changed hte intro like that. [15:38] nice schooling snap-l [15:39] * snap-l is the nerd that watches the making of specials. :) [15:39] always love effects. [15:39] and the creativity [15:39] nice [15:39] spent a few hours reading up on the differet models [15:40] so did you ever get into SG1 ? [15:40] Unfortunately, no [15:40] :( [15:40] overall as a series and story I put it on par or above DS9. [15:40] I always watch those specials [15:40] Anything I've done has been with either ACAD or Blender [15:40] DS9 being my favorite overall trek [15:40] Oh, sorry. [15:40] Star Gate. [15:40] Not SGI the company. ;) [15:40] Bah [15:40] lol [15:40] I like to imagine I'm one of a single digit number of people who watched the entire Lord of the Rings extended special features =( [15:41] jrwren: No, I didn't get into SG1. The movie was a little wonky for my tastes [15:41] the TV show was a hard left [15:41] Yeah, my FIL watched it [15:41] Other problem was it was on cable [15:41] yup. [15:41] Maybe I'll add it to the netflix queue [15:41] showtime for the first 4 seasons too [15:42] before scifi picked it up and played reruns [15:42] that is right... jorge is the SG1 fan. [15:42] i knew someone in here was. i just couldn't remember. [15:43] I watched all the SG's [15:43] I even liked Universe [15:46] universe was excellent. [15:46] so sad that it was cancelled [15:46] and the end was kind of rushed [15:48] The end of it wasn't even planned [15:53] ever watch portlandia? see what they did with BSG a couple weeks ago? so funny [15:54] I have not [15:57] we watched SG1 until we went to basic cable [16:40] I miss the good old SG1 with Richard Dean Anderson [16:40] and the earlier days of SG Atlantis [17:11] that's about when we stopped. up to the ori [17:19] guess who can't sleep in, even though his kid is sleeping, because of an annoying head cold. This guy. [17:22] also, so true: http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-dad-figures-hes-got-at-least-three-more-month,27256/ [17:38] greg-g: <3 that. I know I've had those thoughts. "Look, he can't remember this anyway so I can still walk around in my underwear dear" [18:35] zomg the Ori story line was a blast... plus... Julian Sands!!! [23:19] OK, I think I might need some help [23:19] but I think for my phone purchase, I'm seriously considering the iPhone. :) [23:36] Gotta love it when you find an album that you can't quickly tell if it's digital artifacting damage, or the actual song: http://glossolaliarecords.bandcamp.com/album/--2 [23:37] And by love, I mean I want to beat people [23:38] snap-l? iPhones? [23:38] World really is ending. [23:51] snap-l: seriously? You missing Aaron at CHC too much lately? [23:51] heh [23:52] Well, I need a phone that works, for starters [23:52] bah, the SB stream is silverlight [23:52] and from what I've seen, the Android phones all feel like htey're in late beta [23:52] snap-l: right, because no one's ever had to return their phone to apple before [23:52] never. :) [23:52] so just fyi, got the new hardware, fixed my google voice setting, and phone is back to normal for me [23:52] so yay [23:53] Secod reason is because Apple keeps the carriers on a short tether [23:53] rick_h: Ah, cool [23:53] Hey [23:53] That's the part that I really hate. It's not the hardware, it's the retarded carriers [23:53] This blackberry torch 9810 works awesome [23:53] Just sayin' [23:53] yea, I hear it even takes phone calls [23:54] tjagoda: If I need a brick, I'll go to the brick yard [23:54] but once you're done talking on the phone you can go get your computer out to do anything else [23:54] I had a blackberry once. It was the most miserable experience ever [23:55] My Blackberry can multitask while I'm talking on it [23:55] That's been possible for a while [23:55] But can Blackberry remove the suck? [23:55] tjagoda: except that none of the apps are there :P and unless you're on the latest your browser doesn't load crap :P [23:56] rick_h: Oh, it does load crap [23:56] just like Lynx [23:56] I am on the latest [23:56] But I am not app crazy [23:56] Meh [23:56] tjagoda: You CAN'T BE APP CRAZY ON A BLACKBERRY! [23:57] Fuck me [23:57] DO they still have SSH apps running $70? [23:57] I just go to the free open source SSH apps which aren't in App World [23:58] Ah, apparently Jamendo unleashed the metal albums [23:58] But I don't know whats in App World for SSH these days [23:58] seeing a lot of albums that disappeared from Thanksgiving to The New year. [23:58] When I last looked it was years ago