| micahg | astraljava: where does it get set to that? | 01:02 |
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| === pleia2_ is now known as pleia2 | ||
| astraljava | micahg: Sometimes, so far totally randomly (to me, but I'm sure there's a specific reason I just haven't figured out yet) whenever a browser is to be called, I get the pop-up that says the preferred application isn't set, even though I have set it several times now in Settings | Settings Manager | Preferred Applications. | 03:59 |
| astraljava | micahg: It's like that right now, I just went there and I see it as "No application selected". | 04:00 |
| astraljava | micahg: So, if you have any debugging methods, I could run them from now on. | 04:01 |
| astraljava | Okay, I've seen an annoying number of *buntu people going to #debian @ oftc.net for support. The reason seems to be that Debian Servers is the first entry in the list of Networks, Ubuntu Servers being the second. Think this should be changed? | 05:32 |
| micahg | in XChat? | 05:52 |
| pleia2 | are any modifications made from Debian to the package? | 05:54 |
| pleia2 | (I'm assuming the servers list is just the debian default and we don't change that) | 05:54 |
| micahg | yes, quite a few | 05:56 |
| astraljava | micahg: Yes, xchat. | 06:22 |
| astraljava | But probably in some others, too. | 06:22 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| knome | micahg, ohmy, connection problems? | 14:10 |
| knome | madnick! where's the settings GUI for your lightdm stuff? | 14:16 |
| mr_pouit | micahg: when you have some time, could you look at http://lionel.lefolgoc.net/misc/shimmer-themes_1.1-0ubuntu1.dsc please? (to be sure I didn't miss something stupid that will make it be rejected by from new ;>) | 14:17 |
| mr_pouit | hey there | 14:17 |
| knome | hey :) | 14:17 |
| mr_pouit | #8 from the xubuntu website faq sounds weird to me (where does that +x idea come from?) | 14:18 |
| knome | i've no idea | 14:18 |
| knome | madnick, can you be in touch about the lightdm and plymouth themes with mr_pouit? he needs the code ASAP :) | 14:25 |
| mr_pouit | knome: making alacarte xfce-friendly only needs a sed s/gnome-desktop-item-edit/exo-desktop-item-edit/ (or something like that). Then there's libgnome-menu that supports OnlyShowIn keys depending on the $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP envvar | 14:36 |
| knome | is alacarte function-complete? | 14:36 |
| knome | edii's been rewriting his menu managing GUI to be a full-fledged menu manager... | 14:37 |
| mr_pouit | knome: is XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP set in your session? | 14:40 |
| knome | nope | 14:41 |
| mr_pouit | knome: mmh, do you have alacarte installed? | 14:42 |
| knome | no | 14:43 |
| mr_pouit | any chance you could install it to try something? (: | 14:44 |
| knome | i'll get back to you in 5mins | 14:44 |
| mr_pouit | thanks | 14:45 |
| mr_pouit | in short: start it once, confirm that it doesn't show .desktop files containing OnlyShowIn=XFCE;, then open a term, export XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=XFCE, launch alacarte from the term, and check whether it shows more desktop files or not :/ | 14:47 |
| knome | mr_pouit, meh, i'll do that but you tell me where our "settings" icon comes from | 14:48 |
| knome | mr_pouit, yep, what you said is correct | 14:51 |
| knome | mr_pouit, the xfce-items show up when the var is set | 14:51 |
| mr_pouit | eh \o/ | 14:51 |
| knome | my experience of alacarte is still kind of bad | 14:52 |
| knome | it doesn't seem to handle some separators correctly | 14:52 |
| mr_pouit | (filed Bug #927172 as a todo list :p) | 15:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 927172 in xfce4-utils (Ubuntu) "set XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=XFCE for alacarte" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/927172 | 15:01 |
| knome | linked to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-xubuntu-menu-managing | 15:03 |
| mr_pouit | mmh, alacarte is in universe | 16:36 |
| mr_pouit | I guess I can patch it directly then | 16:37 |
| GridCube | to not have a gazillion recommends? | 16:37 |
| mr_pouit | yeah, to use libgarcon-common instead of gnome-menus, and exo-utils instead of gnome-panel | 16:38 |
| ochosi | cool | 16:38 |
| knome | GridCube, there is actually only one *direct* recommends ;) | 16:38 |
| knome | mr_pouit, omg | 16:38 |
| knome | :P | 16:38 |
| ochosi | mr_pouit: where/when/how can i test it? | 16:39 |
| knome | ochosi, export $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=XFCE | 16:39 |
| knome | ochosi, and then install for now with --no-install-recommends | 16:39 |
| ochosi | in precise or oneiric? | 16:40 |
| ochosi | (don't have precise yet) | 16:40 |
| knome | oneiric is fine as well | 16:40 |
| mr_pouit | ochosi: oneiric/amd64? | 16:40 |
| ochosi | yup | 16:40 |
| knome | ^ that's what i'm using | 16:40 |
| ochosi | (ten more minutes, then boarding will start) | 16:40 |
| knome | :) | 16:41 |
| mr_pouit | you can already try what knome wrote | 16:41 |
| ochosi | ok, i'll see whether my connection here is fast enough to do anything apart from irc :) | 16:42 |
| mr_pouit | http://lionel.lefolgoc.net/misc/alacarte_0.13.2-2ubuntu4_all.deb | 16:43 |
| ochosi | lol, bash: export: `=XFCE': not a valid identifier | 16:43 |
| mr_pouit | here's a deb without the extra deps/recommends, and item editing should work without gnome-panel | 16:43 |
| mr_pouit | export XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=XFCE, don't put the $ | 16:43 |
| knome | haha | 16:43 |
| knome | right | 16:43 |
| knome | sry :D | 16:43 |
| knome | of course... | 16:43 |
| ochosi | yeah, i know, i was actually laughing a bit about myself back there | 16:44 |
| knome | err, do you mean you were literally *laughing your ass (off)*? | 16:45 |
| knome | i mean, with "back there"... | 16:45 |
| ochosi | yeah, or i meant it temporally rather than spacially | 16:45 |
| * ochosi scratches his head | 16:45 | |
| knome | hehe | 16:45 |
| knome | hmm, right, this was a logged channel :) | 16:46 |
| ochosi | alacarte started, but i'm not sure it works 100% | 16:46 |
| ochosi | but then again, maybe my menu is borked due to ediis menu-editor... | 16:47 |
| knome | hah | 16:47 |
| ochosi | which is the default location of the menu-file? | 16:47 |
| knome | remind you, any editor only edits the menu files | 16:47 |
| knome | :P | 16:47 |
| knome | (or .desktop files just slightly) | 16:47 |
| mr_pouit | ochosi: with XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=XFCE alacarte you should be able to see all desktop files with OnlyShowIn=XFCE | 16:47 |
| mr_pouit | (top menu entries, everything in settings, etc.) | 16:47 |
| knome | ^ incl. settings manager! | 16:47 |
| ochosi | mr_pouit: right, i'll test that as soon as i have my default xubuntu-menu back | 16:48 |
| knome | well, i have the menu by edii... :) | 16:48 |
| mr_pouit | it's in /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/menus/xfce-applications.menu | 16:48 |
| ochosi | ah right, ty | 16:48 |
| mr_pouit | or /etc/xdg/menus/xfce-applications.menu | 16:48 |
| ochosi | i used the latter | 16:48 |
| mr_pouit | (for the vanilla one from upstream) | 16:48 |
| ochosi | and that was borked | 16:48 |
| knome | HA! | 16:49 |
| ochosi | hm, clicking properties on an item in alacarte doesn't work | 16:49 |
| mr_pouit | how did you start alacarte? | 16:50 |
| ochosi | via appfinder from xfce-master | 16:50 |
| mr_pouit | (you have to start it from the same term you exported XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP) | 16:51 |
| mr_pouit | (and if you don't use my deb linked above, menu editing won't try to use exo) | 16:51 |
| ochosi | http://pastebin.com/vyc41yxs | 16:51 |
| ochosi | oh | 16:51 |
| ochosi | i see | 16:51 |
| ochosi | now it works | 16:52 |
| ochosi | that's pretty cool actually | 16:52 |
| ochosi | ok, g2f now | 16:52 |
| ochosi | ttyl | 16:52 |
| knome | see you! | 16:53 |
| knome | and have a nice flight | 16:53 |
| pleia2 | hmm, what is our equivalent to the "Disk Ultility" application that other *buntus have in their menu for gui reformatting of something like a usb drive? | 18:20 |
| pleia2 | writing the xubuntu portion of this full circle magazine article about easy formatting of drives | 18:28 |
| pleia2 | we don't appear to ship with such a tool | 18:29 |
| Unit193 | People can install whatever they like... | 18:34 |
| pleia2 | of course, but for articles you need to at least recommend something, this is something that is default on the other flavors (even lubuntu ships with Disk Utility) | 18:36 |
| pleia2 | GridCube: can you let me know if there is anything in this thread en espanol I need to know re: the website? :) | 19:25 |
| GridCube | what thread? | 19:25 |
| knome | GridCube, the development mailing list | 19:26 |
| knome | GridCube, three messages in spanish | 19:26 |
| knome | GridCube, to which i just replied telling to use english | 19:26 |
| pleia2 | knome: GridCube is the second replier | 19:27 |
| knome | pleia2, i know | 19:27 |
| knome | :) | 19:27 |
| pleia2 | ok :) | 19:27 |
| knome | even he should have written in english | 19:27 |
| GridCube | oh, yes sorry, i told him to use english too | 19:29 |
| pleia2 | ok, so for this FCM article I just told people to install Disk Utility | 19:30 |
| Unit193 | I don't think we need to install everything by default, but I'd love to have a page on the site/wiki with recommends for tasks (or generally)! | 19:46 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: yeah, since the upgrade to precise, I"ve had major IRC issues | 19:57 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: will take a look at shimmer themes in a but | 19:57 |
| micahg | *bit | 19:57 |
| knome | micahg, thanks :) | 19:57 |
| mr_pouit | thanks | 20:41 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: are you getting it into Ubuntu first due to Feature Freeze? | 21:03 |
| mr_pouit | yeah | 21:04 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: so far, the only missing thing is a watch file, waiting for the build to finish | 21:11 |
| mr_pouit | micahg: yeah, I'm not sure how to do a proper wtahc file with multiple upstream tarballs =) | 21:18 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: W: shimmer-themes: executable-not-elf-or-script usr/share/themes/Greybird/gtk-3.0/progressbar.png | 21:19 |
| mr_pouit | yep, that's something I asked ochosi/knome to fix, but I guess they forgot :P | 21:20 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: debian #531321 | 21:20 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 531321 in devscripts "[uscan] support for downloading multiple upstream tarballs" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/531321 | 21:21 |
| knome | awwh | 21:21 |
| knome | mr_pouit, https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/commit/7915c3e74679626fdbf10f1f0d2e284ccf6d4753 | 21:24 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: the xubuntu-artwork breaks/replaces is superflous, no upgrade path | 21:30 |
| micahg | well, unless we're considering backporting this to lucid | 21:31 |
| micahg | no home page in debian/control | 21:31 |
| micahg | oh, wait, it's in the binary :) | 21:31 |
| micahg | that should be part of the source decleration | 21:32 |
| micahg | :q | 21:32 |
| micahg | oops :) | 21:32 |
| mr_pouit | ahah, so I don't have to repeat it | 21:34 |
| micahg | right :) | 21:34 |
| micahg | otherwise, with those changes, you have an ACK from me for upload | 21:35 |
| micahg | watch file optional :) | 21:35 |
| micahg | but would be nice | 21:35 |
| * micahg guesses the breaks/replaces should stick around until hardy is EOL | 21:36 | |
| micahg | only another 14 months | 21:36 |
| micahg | err...I mean lucid desktop :) | 21:36 |
| mr_pouit | I'm not even sure a partially up-to-date lucid will be able to dist-upgrade successfully :P | 21:39 |
| mr_pouit | thanks for the review (I guess I'll postpone the debian/watch fot the next upload though ;-) | 21:40 |
| micahg | sure | 21:43 |
| mr_pouit | (and the breaks/replaces is indeed useless, because they concern files not actually shipped… bah, probably a wrong copy/paste) | 21:43 |
| micahg | well, murrine-themes has the same thing | 21:45 |
| micahg | ah right, I got that fixed supposedly :), yeah, it should be xubuntu-artwork (<< 11.10.1) assuming it's shipping the same files | 21:47 |
| micahg | we'll need that for lucid -> precise | 21:47 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: ^^ | 21:50 |
| mr_pouit | * Drop bluebird and greybird themes, move murrine-themes from recommends | 21:51 |
| mr_pouit | to depends. | 21:51 |
| mr_pouit | indeed, that was done in 11.10.1 | 21:51 |
| micahg | I filed debian 638690, don't know if it was ever added there | 21:52 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 638690 in murrine-themes "murrine-themes: Needs a higher versioned breaks on xubuntu-artwork" [Minor,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/638690 | 21:52 |
| mr_pouit | uploaded, thanks for you help | 22:27 |
| mr_pouit | knome: [ubuntu/precise] shimmer-themes 1.1-0ubuntu1 (New) | 22:27 |
| mr_pouit | (it's not in the archive yet, needs a review by an archive adlmin) | 22:27 |
| mr_pouit | *admin | 22:27 |
| knome | \o/ | 22:29 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: there's no bug, right? I'll leave a note in -release I did a review | 22:29 |
| mr_pouit | you know knome and ochosi, they make horrible themes full of bugs ;D | 22:33 |
| * mr_pouit runs | 22:33 | |
| mr_pouit | so, no, hopefully it should be fine | 22:33 |
| knome | heh | 22:34 |
| knome | yeah, feel free to file bugs... | 22:35 |
| micahg | no, I meant a new package bug :) | 22:35 |
| knome | if you can find any >;) | 22:35 |
| knome | heh, right, it's that mr_pouit guy who's doing the lousy packaging for shimmer | 22:35 |
| knome | healways messing things up... | 22:35 |
| knome | +'s | 22:35 |
| micahg | again, not what I meant | 22:35 |
| knome | AWWH | 22:36 |
| knome | :) | 22:36 |
| mr_pouit | micahg: no, I didn't introduce new bugs | 22:36 |
| mr_pouit | knome: I love you too :P | 22:36 |
| knome | hehe | 22:36 |
| csenger41 | hello | 23:04 |
| csenger41 | anyone could help me creating a panel applet? | 23:06 |
| knome | that's not really completely easy, but you would be better off asking #xfce or #xfce-dev | 23:11 |
| csenger41 | knome: ohh thank you | 23:12 |
| csenger41 | joined there, bye | 23:12 |
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