holstein | not worth it for most though | 00:03 |
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holstein | editing the files would be the way to go for XFCE | 00:03 |
holstein | or when lxmenueditor makes its way in | 00:03 |
pjotter | I think so too. I cannot find any other Xfce menu editor. | 00:04 |
pjotter | I tried that also. It too has ome limitations. Not all menuitems showed up in that editor. But it seems to be working better than alacarte. | 00:04 |
holstein | XFCE might have bug tracking.. you can put a wishlist bug in for xubuntu | 00:05 |
holstein | interesting... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfdesktop/+bug/58402 | 00:06 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 58402 in xfdesktop (Ubuntu) "Unable to edit system menu via Xubuntu menu editor" [Undecided,Fix released] | 00:06 |
Unit193 | I{ve tested it to be working before, don't really know why it wouldn't be now | 00:08 |
holstein | Unit193: which? | 00:08 |
Unit193 | Alacarte | 00:09 |
holstein | yeah... that i have not tried myself | 00:09 |
pjotter | I just tried on a clean install of Xubuntu 11.10. And confirmed the same result on a clean install in VM. | 00:10 |
pjotter | This is the one: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=684927 | 00:13 |
ubottu | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 684927 in alacarte "alacarte needs to require gnome-panel" [Unspecified,Closed: errata] | 00:13 |
holstein | well, i think there is a bigger bug or XFCE/xubuntu needing a native tool | 00:24 |
holstein | that can be a wish list bug | 00:24 |
pjotter | Alacarte requires "gnome-desktop-item-edit" which is part of gnome-panel. Without it, you cannot edit any items, which makes it pretty useless. | 00:24 |
holstein | sure, but is it really a bug that a tool designed to edit a different menu doesnt quite work 100% with this menu? | 00:25 |
pjotter | No it is not a bug. But alacarte is recommended on the Xubuntu webpage. It really shouldn't, because it does not work properly without the gnome-panel installed. | 00:27 |
holstein | pjotter: sure, i can get with that! | 00:29 |
pjotter | http://xubuntu.org/news/faq-1110-oneiric/ (question six) | 00:29 |
pjotter | But I didn like the idea of using a tool that was not designed for Xfce anyway. So, I'll leurn how to edit the menu's by hand. No problem. | 00:31 |
Cube``_ | guys, i'm having a huge problem with my usb stick that i cannot fix. it doesnt work, when i try to format it with gparted it says "unrecognized disk label". | 00:43 |
GridCube | yep that happens | 00:44 |
GridCube | Cube``_, install testdisk | 00:44 |
GridCube | and try to fix it | 00:44 |
Cube``_ | GridCube: did. it did not manage to fix it though | 00:45 |
Cube``_ | i couldnt make it create a partition | 00:45 |
GridCube | using testdisk? | 00:45 |
Cube``_ | yes | 00:45 |
GridCube | or gparted? | 00:45 |
Cube``_ | testdisk | 00:45 |
GridCube | mmmm thats bad | 00:45 |
Cube``_ | indeed | 00:45 |
Cube``_ | what exactly do i need to select using testdisk thouh? | 00:46 |
Cube``_ | maybe im just doing it wrong | 00:46 |
xubuntu5 | testdisk? | 00:46 |
Cube``_ | xubuntu5: yeah | 00:46 |
GridCube | Cube``_, http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step | 00:47 |
GridCube | :) that should tell you | 00:47 |
GridCube | i fixed one just like that yesterday | 00:47 |
Cube``_ | GridCube: ok, thanks! | 00:48 |
xubuntu5 | might want to take a look at this one too: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step | 00:48 |
xubuntu5 | http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step *** | 00:48 |
xubuntu5 | dammit why isn't it copying correctly | 00:48 |
GridCube | using testdisk to recover the partition, i previously saved all the data that could be saved using photorec Cube``_ :) | 00:48 |
xubuntu5 | ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=387922 | 00:48 |
GridCube | just in case you should do it Cube``_ | 00:49 |
Cube``_ | xubuntu5: thanks! | 00:49 |
Cube``_ | GridCube: yeah luckyil i dont have any data that i will miss | 00:49 |
GridCube | oh :) thats good then | 00:49 |
GridCube | also try another usb ports | 00:49 |
Cube``_ | yeah did :P | 00:51 |
xubuntu5 | welcome | 00:52 |
Cube``_ | aiojsd oaisjd aoisdj oisdj aoisd joid | 00:53 |
Cube``_ | guys | 00:53 |
Cube``_ | look | 00:53 |
Cube``_ | i come to the 'analyze' point | 00:53 |
Cube``_ | see i dont want to recover any data, i just want to get the goddamn thing to work | 00:53 |
Cube``_ | so i wait through the scan | 00:53 |
xubuntu5 | what do you want to work? | 00:53 |
Cube``_ | finds nothing of course, because i just zero-byted it with dd | 00:54 |
Cube``_ | the usb stick | 00:54 |
Cube``_ | i put in 'Add partition' | 00:54 |
Cube``_ | select FAT32 | 00:54 |
xubuntu5 | have you used gparted? | 00:54 |
Cube``_ | but it doesnt appear there! | 00:54 |
Cube``_ | yes | 00:54 |
Cube``_ | fails everytime i try to create a partition | 00:54 |
Cube``_ | with | 00:54 |
xubuntu5 | did you buy this drive online? | 00:54 |
Cube``_ | yes | 00:54 |
Cube``_ | it works perfectly with windows | 00:54 |
Cube``_ | thats the problem | 00:54 |
xubuntu5 | i bought one online from ebay thinking it was going to be 16gb | 00:54 |
Cube``_ | it works with windwos! | 00:54 |
xubuntu5 | and it was only 4 some china scam | 00:54 |
xubuntu5 | haha | 00:54 |
Cube``_ | :DDD damn | 00:54 |
Cube``_ | i heard of that | 00:55 |
xubuntu5 | showed up as 16gb in windows | 00:55 |
GridCube | Cube``_, i was about to tell you that | 00:55 |
xubuntu5 | but would only hold 4 | 00:55 |
Cube``_ | mkay | 00:55 |
Cube``_ | well | 00:55 |
Cube``_ | i only put small pdfs on there ^^ | 00:55 |
Cube``_ | <5mb^^ | 00:55 |
xubuntu5 | hmm | 00:55 |
GridCube | if it works in windows | 00:55 |
xubuntu5 | they are so cheap now could get a new one | 00:55 |
Cube``_ | and its a 8gb bough in good old germany | 00:55 |
Cube``_ | well | 00:55 |
GridCube | then format it from there | 00:55 |
Cube``_ | its 10bux :/ | 00:55 |
Cube``_ | its in the shape of a key | 00:55 |
Cube``_ | you understand | 00:55 |
Cube``_ | thats the point | 00:55 |
xubuntu5 | oooh | 00:55 |
GridCube | gave it ntfs | 00:55 |
Cube``_ | i wear it on my keychain | 00:55 |
xubuntu5 | oooh i see | 00:56 |
Cube``_ | GridCube: ntfs didnt work either :'( | 00:56 |
GridCube | :/ | 00:56 |
GridCube | did you used the windows formatting tools or real ones? | 00:56 |
xubuntu5 | what brand is it? | 00:56 |
xubuntu5 | try parted magic instead of gparted | 00:59 |
arabuli | Hello, I'm trying to install Xubuntu but installation is stuck at log-output -t ubiquity laptop-detect. What should I do? | 01:03 |
GridCube | arabuli, if i where you i would use the alternate disk and avoid ubiquity alltogheter | 01:05 |
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arabuli | GridCube: Can you tell me what is difference between desktop and alternate? | 01:08 |
GridCube | arabuli, alternate uses a text based installer, no gui, so its faster, nicier and faster | 01:08 |
GridCube | desktop gives you a live desktop to test stuff and it takes more time to load and its more prone to errors, | 01:10 |
arabuli | GridCube: thanks ill download it now. One more question I partitioned my hard drive with desktop installer. Will partition table be available when I do alternate install? | 01:10 |
GridCube | the alternate installer instead just lets you edit you partitions, gives you your user and password setting and then starts copying stuff | 01:10 |
GridCube | yes arabuli it will remain | 01:10 |
GridCube | just chose advanced and mount your / on th partition you wanted and your /home on the other you wanted, else delete partition or move them arround like on any partition manager | 01:11 |
GridCube | but its text based of course | 01:12 |
arabuli | gridcube: Thanks for fast and informational reply. I'll try it now. | 01:12 |
kenshin | i have a problem with my new xubuntu | 01:12 |
GridCube | !details kenshin | 01:12 |
Cube``_ | ok guys | 01:12 |
Cube``_ | GridCube: xubuntu5 | 01:13 |
GridCube | !details | kenshin | 01:13 |
ubottu | kenshin: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." | 01:13 |
GridCube | :) Cube``_ | 01:13 |
Cube``_ | so i followed a guys advice and ran this: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=1024 | 01:13 |
kenshin | no matter what i try i cant install packages from the software updater | 01:13 |
Cube``_ | now its not even recognized as a disk by testdisk O.o | 01:13 |
kenshin | it says check internet connection when i'm quite clearly on the internet | 01:15 |
holstein | kenshin: open a terminal ... run sudo apt-get update ...report errors | 01:15 |
kenshin | kk | 01:16 |
kenshin | ok i ran the code and it spit a lot of stuff at me. none of my stuff works though, i don't have any codecs or drivers and i can't get anything off the software updater | 01:21 |
holstein | kenshin: you just need to let us know whats going on... any errors from sudo apt-get update? | 01:22 |
holstein | what are you trying to do? | 01:22 |
GridCube | kenshin, whats your natural language? maybe you can explain yourself on a channel where they speak the same language that you do | 01:23 |
kenshin | english | 01:24 |
kenshin | W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com oneiric Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com> | 01:24 |
kenshin | for every update it showed was followed by a message like thisd | 01:25 |
holstein | kenshin: sure, thats helpful :) | 01:25 |
holstein | check out http://askubuntu.com/questions/1877/what-is-the-easiest-way-to-resolve-apt-get-badsig-gpg-errors/64544#64544 | 01:26 |
kenshin | ok thanks | 01:26 |
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Franky | Does anyone know how to make keyboard shortcuts for programs? | 02:16 |
Unit193 | Menu : Settings : Settings Manager : Keyboard : Keyboard Shortcuts | 02:17 |
Franky | Unit193: Thanks | 02:18 |
Unit193 | No problem | 02:18 |
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cc_INC | I have a small issue, when I start my Xubuntu session I seem to be missing the Xubuntu taskbar/panel on top of desktop. Rebooting does not resolve the issue but shutting down my lappy and turning it on again does. Am I the only one with this issue? Does anyone know what I can do to resolve? | 08:48 |
xubuntu486 | salve a tutti | 11:04 |
xubuntu486 | hello | 11:04 |
xubuntu486 | i have a problem | 11:04 |
xubuntu486 | during my installation of xubuntu it seems doesn't go forward | 11:05 |
xubuntu486 | it's written: log-ouput -t ubiquity laptopd-detect | 11:06 |
xubuntu486 | can anyone help me please? | 11:06 |
pjotter | Hello everybody. I am still testing Xubuntu, to see if I will make the transition from Ubuntu to Xubuntu. Today, I wanted to see if I can get my USB microphones working. I already noticed that the sound-settings manager in Xubuntu differs quite a bit from that of Ubuntu. All I see is a big Alsa mixer panel with a lot of slides. Can anybody give me a hint on how to enable USB microphones in Xubuntu? Are there any wikis/websites I can read? | 12:24 |
knome | pjotter, try installing pavucontrol | 12:25 |
pjotter | Great! This one I know and can work with! | 12:26 |
pjotter | Hmmm... Somehow all the playback is, like 20 times too fast and muted. Very strange. Even youtube is playing in fast forward mode. | 12:42 |
artao | hai | 13:14 |
artao | i need some help gettin my dual-head display to STAY as extended desktop instead of cloned desktop ... every time i boot, I have to run grandr to make it that way ... how to I make it save that config? | 13:15 |
artao | sure, it only takes a few seconds, but it's really really annoying ;) | 13:16 |
mongy | put the command in ~/.xprofile | 13:16 |
artao | ~/.xprofile ?? does that mean (root) .xprofile? .. ... also, how do i get the command line? i see no option for that in grandr? | 13:18 |
artao | or does '~' mean my $HOME ?? | 13:18 |
artao | i don't know what that tilde means in that position ... sry | 13:19 |
artao | i've also tried arandr and lxrander .. neither would let me set the desktop to expanded instead of cloned ... | 13:19 |
artao | *lxrandr | 13:19 |
mongy | ah grandr. so grandr lets you set the mode but the command line versions don't? | 13:20 |
artao | what command line versions? you mean randr itself? that is WAAYYY beyond my current Linux skill level .. arandr and lxrandr are both graphical as well | 13:21 |
artao | grandr actually has drag-n-drop monitor layout | 13:21 |
artao | but it appears to have no option to SAVE that layout as default | 13:21 |
mongy | http://askubuntu.com/questions/91221/how-to-tell-xubuntu-not-to-clone-but-to-expand-the-laptop-display-to-the-externa try that | 13:24 |
mongy | I've no experience with multi monitor stuff. Just a matter of finding what options to use with xrandr and setting them in .xprofile | 13:25 |
mongy | in your home. | 13:25 |
artao | k | 13:25 |
pjotter | I installed avucontrol. Now, my MXL mic is working. But the mic from my usb webcam is not. When I record (with Audacity) a sound with it and then play it back, it sounds like it is double the speed. Maybe someone here recognises this problem and knows a sollution? | 13:25 |
artao | thanks for the linky | 13:25 |
artao | another thing: Is there a tool I can use to adjust monitor gamma? my secondary monitor is WAY too dark, but the brightness is all the way up ... | 13:26 |
artao | also possibly color correction? i.e. calibrate my monitors to each other? | 13:26 |
pjotter | artao: I installed my prop driver. It comes with an interface that does that kind of thing. I don't know if there is a Linux driver that does that. | 13:26 |
artao | i suspect Linux does not have those tools | 13:26 |
artao | ati x600 pcie card. i have no idea either. | 13:27 |
mongy | http://askubuntu.com/a/62270/26198 any use ? | 13:27 |
pjotter | I have an ati also | 13:27 |
artao | i'll be upgrading that card asap to a geforce gtx series, for the CUDA support | 13:28 |
mongy | I use fglrx, so I have ccc installed | 13:28 |
artao | eh? you have Catalyst? how??? | 13:28 |
artao | that would be WAY nice!!! | 13:28 |
pjotter | I have | 13:28 |
mongy | from the repo | 13:28 |
pjotter | No | 13:28 |
pjotter | That one didn't work | 13:28 |
mongy | could install the latest version but cant be bothered. it works | 13:28 |
artao | where do i find what I'm currently using and change it? | 13:29 |
pjotter | I have installed it by hand. Downloaded the driver from AMD website. | 13:29 |
mongy | http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide#Installing_Catalyst_Manually_.28from_AMD.2FATI.27s_site.29 | 13:29 |
mongy | pretty simple guide. | 13:29 |
artao | i'm not particularly familiar with linux driver configuration | 13:29 |
pjotter | Me neither. It wasn too hard. | 13:29 |
artao | criminey!! all these linkys ... maybe i should open IRC on my desktop ... this poor old P2 400Mhz with 96M RAM can't handle more that one or two browser tabs at a time ;) ;P | 13:29 |
artao | justasec ... | 13:30 |
mongy | there is a tool called redshift for adjusting brightness etc. gtk-redshift | 13:30 |
XartaoX | hi there | 13:31 |
XartaoX | it's artao on my desktop | 13:31 |
XartaoX | would you mind reposting those links so i can use them more easily plz? | 13:31 |
XartaoX | brb | 13:31 |
mongy | http://askubuntu.com/a/62270/26198 | http://askubuntu.com/questions/91221/how-to-tell-xubuntu-not-to-clone-but-to-expand-the-laptop-display-to-the-externa | http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide#Installing_Catalyst_Manually_.28from_AMD.2FATI.27s_site.29 | 13:32 |
XartaoX | thx | 13:40 |
XartaoX | oh dear | 13:58 |
XartaoX | is there a way I can preserve my CURRENT system setup before I try the whole "install Catalyst" thing?? ... i don't wanna accidentally lose my fresh install ;) | 13:59 |
mongy | its simple to restore the open driver | 14:05 |
mongy | for full backups I use clonezilla | 14:05 |
kim_plausible | hi all, i was trying to install the xubuntu-desktop on ubuntu, but the package will never download! i have now tried with both synaptic, ubuntu software and the terminal to no avail... | 14:54 |
kim_plausible | i'm using ubuntu 11.10, i follow this seemingly simple tut: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xfce | 14:56 |
knome | what's the error message if it doesn't download? | 14:57 |
knome | !pastebin | 14:57 |
ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 14:57 |
kim_plausible | there is no error message, it just won't download | 15:06 |
Marzata | o? | 15:07 |
kim_plausible | well ok finally it has responded by saying error connection failed | 15:07 |
Marzata | slow internet? | 15:07 |
kim_plausible | not really | 15:07 |
kim_plausible | i'l try another package for test | 15:07 |
kim_plausible | tried audacity but its not downloading either, internet is still ok here, so maybe there's something going on with the ubuntu servers? | 15:10 |
xubuntu5 | how can i get xubuntu to auto-detect my hdmi monitor when i connect it? | 15:10 |
xubuntu5 | audacity worked for me | 15:11 |
xubuntu5 | just installed it no problems | 15:11 |
kim_plausible | hmm i'll try again | 15:11 |
xubuntu5 | sudo apt-get install aduacity | 15:11 |
xubuntu5 | no problems on my end | 15:12 |
kim_plausible | bah its saying waiting for apt-get to exit | 15:12 |
xubuntu632 | ciao a tutti | 15:12 |
xubuntu5 | do you have synaptic open? | 15:12 |
xubuntu5 | or another apt-get running | 15:12 |
xubuntu5 | can only have one at a time | 15:12 |
kim_plausible | shouldn't be | 15:12 |
xubuntu5 | restart and try installing it | 15:12 |
kim_plausible | k thanks | 15:12 |
XartaoX | hai | 15:21 |
XartaoX | same as artao .. now logged into IRC on two machines ;) ;) | 15:21 |
sobczyk | hi, is it possible to disable screensavers for all users (or remove GL ones, as they hang the system) | 15:28 |
mongy | Settings > System Manager - Screensaver | 15:32 |
mongy | cool, the Places plugin has mount/unmount options. | 15:35 |
kim_plausible | hurray it is downloading now! | 15:36 |
kim_plausible | i got logged into xubuntu now but i can't access my home folder! it says: Error stating file '/home/naboo/.gvfs': Transport endpoint is not connected. | 15:52 |
kim_plausible | i have an encrypted home folder, could it be that xubuntu doesn't know this? i mean ubuntu handles it automatically | 15:55 |
mongy | off to work :'( | 15:56 |
kim_plausible | i just luuuuve xubuntu plz help me :D | 15:59 |
sobczyk | by all users I rather meant I won't need to log in on their profile | 16:07 |
kim_plausible | if its about encryption, how can i tell the xfce window manager to do it? | 16:11 |
kim_plausible | this is the weirdest thing... i can open all the subfolders but not the homefolder itself wth? | 16:13 |
GridCube | it has a wrong owner | 16:13 |
kim_plausible | but not the subfolders? | 16:13 |
GridCube | aham | 16:14 |
GridCube | that can happen | 16:14 |
GridCube | ownership its not recursive | 16:14 |
GridCube | otherwise websites wont ever work XD | 16:14 |
kim_plausible | well it looks like i have ownership of both the folder and the subfolders... | 16:15 |
GridCube | oh... mmm what groups do it belong to? | 16:15 |
kim_plausible | only me | 16:16 |
kim_plausible | wait | 16:17 |
kim_plausible | i noticed something | 16:17 |
kim_plausible | all folders says i'm in the group, but only the subfolders says i can read them | 16:18 |
GridCube | kim_plausible, this is my setting for my home www.zimagez.com/zimage/capturadepantalla-050212-131701.php | 16:18 |
kim_plausible | solo lectura is read i presume | 16:19 |
GridCube | read only | 16:19 |
kim_plausible | hmmm that might be it | 16:19 |
kim_plausible | oh no i got the same message again: Error stating file '/home/naboo/.gvfs'. Transport endpoint is not connected. | 16:20 |
kim_plausible | i can't change the rights | 16:21 |
kim_plausible | ok i could change the access on the top folder only to read, but if i also choose the subfolders it gave the error message | 16:22 |
GridCube | not even with root? | 16:22 |
GridCube | i mean using gksu thunar? | 16:22 |
kim_plausible | well look at that i immediatly entered home folder | 16:23 |
kim_plausible | ok now for the rights.... | 16:23 |
xubuntu5 | how can i get xubuntu / xrandr to auto detect my hdmi monitor when i connect it it seems it only detects it if i have it connected when i restart my computer :( | 16:24 |
GridCube | i like to use mc for this kind of things, it makes this ownership and groups control so easy | 16:24 |
xubuntu5 | mc = midnight commander? | 16:24 |
GridCube | yep | 16:24 |
GridCube | xubuntu5, use arandrd | 16:24 |
GridCube | xubuntu5, use arandr | 16:24 |
xubuntu5 | arandr hmmm haven't looked into that at all | 16:24 |
kim_plausible | i still can't access the home folder without gksudo thunar, do i have to log out and in? | 16:25 |
xubuntu5 | haha your sn is great instead of kim possible | 16:25 |
kim_plausible | :D | 16:25 |
GridCube | kim_plausible, no it should belong to you already | 16:26 |
GridCube | can i have a screenshot like the one i send you? | 16:26 |
xubuntu5 | just installed arandr via ssh | 16:26 |
xubuntu5 | hope it works! | 16:26 |
kim_plausible | sight i still get that error | 16:26 |
kim_plausible | so why does it hate my user? | 16:26 |
kim_plausible | oh yeah sure grid | 16:27 |
xubuntu5 | is your user offensive xD? | 16:27 |
kim_plausible | i think so | 16:27 |
xubuntu5 | lol | 16:27 |
xubuntu5 | so once i connect my hdmi and turn it on | 16:27 |
xubuntu5 | i just run arandr? | 16:27 |
GridCube | kim_plausible, did you googled your error? | 16:28 |
GridCube | http://askubuntu.com/questions/94211/failed-to-open-home-directory | 16:28 |
kim_plausible | duh, brb lol | 16:28 |
GridCube | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar/+bug/754618 | 16:28 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 754618 in thunar (Ubuntu) "Failed to open encrypted home directory" [Medium,Confirmed] | 16:28 |
GridCube | xubuntu5, arandr its like a gui for xrandr | 16:29 |
GridCube | but it allows you to save settings | 16:29 |
GridCube | kim_plausible, in that launchpad error you have a lot of things to try | 16:32 |
kim_plausible | i think i found my solution for now: sudo umount /home/user/.gvfs | 16:35 |
kim_plausible | brb | 16:35 |
xubuntu5 | GridCube | 16:36 |
xubuntu5 | it might have worked! | 16:36 |
GridCube | :D awesum | 16:36 |
xubuntu5 | you are a genius! | 16:36 |
xubuntu5 | i have been trying to figure this out for so long | 16:36 |
xubuntu5 | thanks man! | 16:36 |
* GridCube gives a cookie to himself | 16:36 | |
xubuntu5 | 3 | 16:36 |
xubuntu5 | 3! | 16:36 |
GridCube | :) | 16:36 |
xubuntu5 | welcome back ms. plausible | 16:37 |
kim_plausible | oh i thought i had to log out and in but that wasn't even necessary! | 16:37 |
GridCube | nope | 16:37 |
kim_plausible | home folder got up the moment i tried it now ! | 16:37 |
GridCube | it shouldnt | 16:37 |
GridCube | :D | 16:37 |
GridCube | good to hear that then, id recommend you add a message to the ask ubuntu saying it worked for you | 16:38 |
kim_plausible | i will, and thanks for being so helpfull! | 16:38 |
GridCube | :D you are welcome :) | 16:38 |
xubuntu5 | and i can bind keys to my script with arandr i like this! | 16:39 |
GridCube | :D | 16:39 |
xubuntu5 | thanks again gridcube | 16:46 |
GridCube | :) | 16:48 |
xubuntu335 | Hello, someone speak spanish? | 19:23 |
Unit193 | !es | xubuntu335 | 19:24 |
ubottu | xubuntu335: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #xubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #xubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. Si nadie responde allí puedes intentar preguntando en #ubuntu-es. | 19:24 |
xubuntu335 | Thanks! | 19:24 |
Unit193 | Sure | 19:24 |
vooze | Okay finally got X back.. after rebuilding alot of AUR packages.. but now some of my gnome-icons are "blank" like nm-aplet, and all in the right corner. They work but they are "not there" any ideas which package i could have removed by mistake? | 19:30 |
knome | AUR? are you aware that this is the xubuntu support channel? | 19:30 |
vooze | knome: oh lol, that was for arch channel :D sorry | 19:31 |
knome | np | 19:31 |
pjotter | Hello everybody. I was wondering if there are any recent alpha ISO's from Xubuntu 12.04 I can download and test? | 19:49 |
knome | a2 was released some time ago | 19:50 |
pjotter | Great! I just found it. | 19:51 |
pjotter | I will have a peak, how this one runs on my computer. | 19:51 |
pjotter | Generally speaking, are there many alpha's that are released before the real thing gates released? | 19:52 |
knome | pjotter, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule | 19:54 |
pjotter | thanks knome! | 19:55 |
earspliT | hey dudes | 19:55 |
knome | hey | 19:56 |
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azimut | hi i have a question: | 20:05 |
metasansana | we all do sometimes | 20:06 |
azimut | have migrated my laptop to xfce am quite happy | 20:06 |
azimut | want to migrate my desktop now, has 2 monitors | 20:06 |
azimut | how is support for multiscreen in xfce | 20:06 |
azimut | was on kde before | 20:06 |
metasansana | nvidia? | 20:06 |
azimut | amd | 20:07 |
azimut | 1 card 2 heads | 20:07 |
metasansana | connected to the same graphic chipset | 20:07 |
azimut | yes | 20:07 |
azimut | i have a working xorg.conf | 20:07 |
metasansana | you shouldn't have any problems diff to a kde afaik | 20:07 |
metasansana | i ran into problems using 2 diff cards though | 20:07 |
azimut | ok thanks so i will wipe my kde system | 20:08 |
metasansana | np | 20:08 |
azimut | and another question, maybe harder: evince segfaults sporadically. can anyone help me to debug this? | 20:08 |
azimut | happens on all pdfs as far as i can tell, but not every time. maybe 25% | 20:09 |
metasansana | beyond my scope | 20:09 |
metasansana | but that sounds like bad programming to me | 20:09 |
azimut | not reproducable | 20:09 |
metasansana | update it | 20:09 |
azimut | everything is up to date | 20:09 |
metasansana | try #ubuntu-bugs | 20:10 |
azimut | you mean i should ask there? | 20:10 |
metasansana | yes | 20:10 |
scott_76 | Hi can anyone help with wireless problem ? | 20:10 |
azimut | ok thanks | 20:10 |
metasansana | np | 20:10 |
GridCube | !details | scott_76 | 20:11 |
ubottu | scott_76: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." | 20:11 |
scott_76 | Sorry im a newbie so bear with me thx. Used ndiswrapper to install driver all works fine until I shut down and restart my wireless wont stsrtup again until I reinstall the driver then works fine until reboot again. Using 11.10 driver is neti2220 | 20:15 |
scott_76 | BTW used extactly same in mint with no problem | 20:16 |
scott_76 | Do you need anything else? | 20:20 |
holstein | scott_76: what does "exactly the same in mint" mean? | 20:20 |
holstein | same hardware? same driver? | 20:20 |
holstein | what version of mint? the 11.10 version? is this a kernel issue? have you tried live CD's? *can* you try live CD's with ndisgtk? | 20:21 |
scott_76 | had get wirless working with ndis on mint 11 12 and crunchbang worked everytime with no problems but xubuntu want load on boot | 20:23 |
holstein | scott_76: so, you mean "with the same driver, all is well" | 20:24 |
holstein | what hardware is it? | 20:24 |
holstein | maybe you can black list something.. i would be interested in upgrading to see if a kernel rev is available and does anything | 20:25 |
holstein | i would also be interested in using a LIVE cd for main ubuntu to get XFCE and xubuntu out of the equation | 20:25 |
holstein | its going to be challenging to trouble shoot that from a live CD though... | 20:26 |
scott_76 | yep did the same every time NPROCOMM IPN 2220 on a toshiba laptop | 20:26 |
scott_76 | INPROCOMM IPN 2220 | 20:27 |
holstein | scott_76: might be something about the module not loading... check out Edit /etc/modules file to add an entry for ndiswrapper at the end of the file | 20:29 |
holstein | from http://phildawson.tumblr.com/post/22267163/how-to-enable-linksys-airconn-inprocomm-ipn-2220 | 20:29 |
morgoth_ | hi. i have a laptop with an intel 965 integrated graphics card (x3100 something). i installed xubuntu 11.04, it works fine, except that i cant use the svideo-out. xrandr only shows LVDS-1 and VGA1. | 20:32 |
holstein | morgoth_: i havent had svideo working in linux at all yet.. never tried actually.. did you just plug it in, and try configuring LVDS? | 20:33 |
morgoth_ | lvds is my main monitor | 20:33 |
holstein | morgoth_: OK.. have you tried the "other" one ? | 20:33 |
holstein | just to see if its mirrored? and working? | 20:33 |
morgoth_ | nope its not | 20:33 |
holstein | i find http://superuser.com/questions/24909/ubuntu-output-screen-to-tv-set-using-s-video | 20:34 |
holstein | xrandr --output S-video --right-of LVDS < those kind of commands | 20:34 |
morgoth_ | yes but i am missing the s-video device | 20:35 |
morgoth_ | i googled myself a few hours before i go ask people ;) | 20:35 |
holstein | morgoth_: OK.. you can search around for other drivers/modules.. not that i would know where to start... you could try different kernels, from live CD's for example, even 8.04, 10.04 | 20:35 |
morgoth_ | xbmc@xbmc:~$ xrandr --output S-video --set load_detection 1 | 20:36 |
morgoth_ | warning: output S-video not found; ignoring | 20:36 |
morgoth_ | well when i started using ubuntu with 8.04 i never had to worry avout kernel modules and such. now im stuck - where are the modules that are loaded on booting defined? | 20:37 |
holstein | morgoth_: if you didnt add any, its just whats in the kernel then | 20:37 |
holstein | morgoth_: so, s-video used to work? | 20:37 |
morgoth_ | holstein: no! it did under windows, but i wanted to use xubuntu for xbmc | 20:38 |
holstein | morgoth_: OK.. i have *never* used svideo with linux... not sure about how to get it set up.. might want to ask about in the mthbuntu community | 20:39 |
morgoth_ | holstein: thats a good idea, thanks for the hint! | 20:39 |
scott_76 | holstein thanks for that i dont have modules folder at etc/modules ? | 20:45 |
scott_76 | gksudo gedit /etc/modules does nothing | 20:49 |
morgoth_ | where are the kernel modules set up | 20:49 |
morgoth_ | its not /etc/modules at least not only | 20:49 |
scott_76 | holstein also tail /var/log/messages no such file | 20:55 |
scott__ | just want to thank holstein sorted thanks | 21:05 |
XartaoX | ok ... I'm having issues with bringing my machine out of suspend ... to wit, it won't come back on | 21:06 |
XartaoX | i entered root console with sudo -i ... then i did echo USB0 > /proc/acpi/wakeup .... ... i did that for USB0 thru USB3 | 21:08 |
XartaoX | no luck | 21:08 |
XartaoX | on reboot, they are again disabled | 21:08 |
XartaoX | the only ENABLED entry is VBTN | 21:08 |
XartaoX | in that file there's also PCI0 thru PCI6 | 21:08 |
XartaoX | why won't it come out of suspend, and why did it reset the changes i made? | 21:09 |
XartaoX | I've read the "Debugging Kernel Suspend" on the Ubuntu Wiki .. little help there | 21:11 |
XartaoX | the idea of debugging by writing to my RTC makes me very very nervous | 21:16 |
csenger41 | hello | 21:35 |
csenger41 | i need help, when playing video, the screen falls apart | 21:36 |
csenger41 | anyone here? :S | 21:43 |
pleia2 | csenger41: you might want to be more specific :) "screen falls apart"? | 21:43 |
csenger41 | pleia2: hold on, ill try to make a pic of it | 21:44 |
csenger41 | http://www.zimagez.com/full/800295bb7864fd85329a618ec91320d413577a11f21feedb6924c0fb25bf0a9d5074b8899471d45f6258bf7217edb1e4428362bbf64677c2.php | 21:47 |
XartaoX | only peeps here appears to be us with the questions | 21:48 |
XartaoX | ;) | 21:48 |
csenger41 | XartaoX: sorry, with Linux I usually need help | 21:49 |
xubuntu5 | me too | 21:50 |
xubuntu5 | do you have the right codec? | 21:51 |
xubuntu5 | is it with all videos or just this file specifically? | 21:51 |
xubuntu5 | is it only with VLC? | 21:51 |
xubuntu5 | have you tried using other players? such as parole or something? | 21:51 |
csenger41 | same problem with Parole and VLC | 21:52 |
csenger41 | and with every video | 21:52 |
xubuntu5 | weird | 21:52 |
csenger41 | I have an ATI VGA, Catalyst installed | 21:52 |
csenger41 | is it possible that this causes the problem? | 21:52 |
XartaoX | what model card? i just read today that the Catalyst drivers are incompatible with older cards (like my x600) | 21:53 |
csenger41 | HD2600 | 21:53 |
csenger41 | Catalyst installed from Jockey | 21:54 |
XartaoX | k. should be compatible then AFAIK ... that's all i gotz | 21:54 |
csenger41 | as far as I see, it usually happens when straight edges move on the screen | 21:55 |
xubuntu5 | how come my vlc won't run properly i open it going to start menu and then bam it doesn't open no errors nothing just vlc process runnin in the background | 21:55 |
csenger41 | tried opening VLC from menu, without video file? | 21:56 |
xubuntu5 | yes | 21:58 |
xubuntu5 | nothing :( | 21:58 |
csenger41 | try complete remove in synaptic and reinstall | 22:00 |
csenger41 | maybe will help | 22:00 |
csenger41 | or sudo apt-get install vlc | 22:00 |
csenger41 | any luck? | 22:02 |
xubuntu5 | tried that didn't seem to work | 22:03 |
xubuntu5 | tried sudo apt-get remove --purge vlc and then sudo apt-get install vlc | 22:03 |
xubuntu5 | anothing :( | 22:03 |
xubuntu5 | still opens in the background no idea why | 22:03 |
xubuntu5 | i have rstarted my comp | 22:03 |
xubuntu5 | and everything | 22:03 |
xubuntu5 | maybe i will shut it down power it off for a min and then back up | 22:03 |
xubuntu5 | going to delete it | 22:04 |
xubuntu5 | and restart my comp and then reinstall it | 22:04 |
csenger41 | well thats really strange, VLC should work all the time | 22:05 |
csenger41 | :D | 22:05 |
xubuntu5 | it should and always has | 22:05 |
xubuntu5 | i was just trying to set up vlc remote and idk what i did | 22:05 |
xubuntu5 | i dont' think i did anything really | 22:05 |
xubuntu5 | just changed .hosts file | 22:05 |
xubuntu5 | :( | 22:05 |
xubuntu5 | restet it back to normal | 22:05 |
xubuntu5 | still nothing | 22:05 |
xubuntu5 | mongyyyyy help | 22:05 |
xubuntu5 | vlc is not working | 22:05 |
mongy | wut | 22:05 |
csenger41 | lol | 22:05 |
xubuntu5 | lol | 22:06 |
xubuntu5 | mongy will know how to fix this he's always a big help | 22:06 |
mongy | try smplayer2 then | 22:06 |
xubuntu5 | parole works | 22:06 |
xubuntu5 | i just want vlc | 22:06 |
xubuntu5 | lol | 22:06 |
mongy | reinstall vlc? | 22:06 |
xubuntu5 | so i can use vlc remote | 22:06 |
xubuntu5 | i've tried | 22:06 |
xubuntu5 | autoremove? or remove --purge or just remove | 22:06 |
mongy | remove your ~/.vlc or wherever it is first and try again | 22:07 |
mongy | ./config/vlc ? | 22:07 |
xubuntu5 | oooh | 22:07 |
xubuntu5 | ok | 22:07 |
xubuntu5 | will try that | 22:07 |
xubuntu5 | thanks man | 22:07 |
mongy | then try reinstalling it. using a ppa version or main repo ? | 22:07 |
csenger41 | ppa version better? | 22:08 |
mongy | csenger41, sometimes, sometimes not | 22:08 |
xubuntu5 | main repo | 22:08 |
csenger41 | could you please help me too? | 22:08 |
xubuntu5 | ppa versino of terminator = great | 22:08 |
csenger41 | mongy: some screens fall apart like this: | 22:09 |
csenger41 | http://www.zimagez.com/full/800295bb7864fd85329a618ec91320d413577a11f21feedb6924c0fb25bf0a9d5074b8899471d45f6258bf7217edb1e4428362bbf64677c2.php | 22:09 |
xubuntu5 | ya i couldn't help him on that thought it was a codec issue or something | 22:09 |
xubuntu5 | waas thinking how he could fix that it's not just vlc either | 22:09 |
xubuntu5 | for him | 22:09 |
xubuntu5 | so ~/.vlc or somewhere in home there's a hidden vlc? | 22:09 |
mongy | ./config/vlc it is | 22:10 |
mongy | remove it. | 22:10 |
mongy | csenger41, can't view it | 22:11 |
mongy | url perime ? | 22:11 |
mongy | perimee | 22:11 |
csenger41 | hold on ill load it up another place | 22:12 |
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Marzata | how to watch Super Bowl XLVI in xubuntu? | 22:12 |
earspliT | can you just stream it? | 22:14 |
csenger41 | mongy: https://picasaweb.google.com/115258614198791545895/Others#5705778333864235394 | 22:14 |
Marzata | earspliT: URL for vlc? | 22:15 |
mongy | csenger41, screen tearing? | 22:15 |
csenger41 | mongy: idk what that mean :S | 22:15 |
mongy | looks like tearing | 22:16 |
mongy | when fast moving video happens | 22:16 |
csenger41 | mongy: that is correct | 22:16 |
mongy | is not synced with framerate | 22:16 |
mongy | csenger41, have compositing enabled? Settings > window manager tweaks | 22:16 |
mongy | what video driver you use? | 22:16 |
csenger41 | yes, compositing enabled, but no transparency set, everything is opaque | 22:17 |
csenger41 | ATI Catalyst from jockey | 22:17 |
earspliT | try disabling VSYNC | 22:17 |
csenger41 | earspliT: how? | 22:18 |
csenger41 | from Catalyst? | 22:18 |
earspliT | yeah | 22:18 |
earspliT | or with x | 22:18 |
earspliT | look here: | 22:18 |
earspliT | http://thelinuxexperiment.com/guinea-pigs/tyler-b/fix-ati-vsync-video-tearing-issue-once-and-for-all/ | 22:18 |
earspliT | i've had that issue before | 22:18 |
mongy | ok | 22:18 |
earspliT | ati's drivers are a total mess | 22:18 |
earspliT | but be careful | 22:18 |
csenger41 | disabling compositing didn't help | 22:18 |
mongy | there aint much you can do with using fglrx | 22:19 |
earspliT | playing with xorg can be painful | 22:19 |
mongy | sudo aticonfig --sync-video=on is 1 option | 22:19 |
mongy | and sudo aticonfig --vs=on | 22:19 |
csenger41 | Invalid option: –sync-video=on –vs=on | 22:20 |
csenger41 | "aticonfig --help" for more infomation. | 22:20 |
csenger41 | aticonfig: parsing the command-line failed. | 22:20 |
mongy | I dont see any tearing with mythtv or video player that uses opengl as output. xv, it does | 22:20 |
mongy | mythtv uses xv I think but in fullscreen like it is, its fine.. for some reason | 22:20 |
mongy | -- | 22:20 |
mongy | dash dash | 22:21 |
mongy | unless you have some special settings, might be best to sudo aticonfig --initial -f | 22:21 |
mongy | to make fresh conf | 22:21 |
csenger41 | ok enabled tear free from catalyst | 22:22 |
mongy | that slows things down a lot for me | 22:23 |
mongy | I dont have it on...... | 22:23 |
mongy | there is a vsync option tho still | 22:23 |
earspliT | try forcing vsync | 22:24 |
mongy | in more settings | 22:24 |
earspliT | if you're already getting a framerate lower then 60FPS it won't help | 22:24 |
mongy | earspliT, the 'tear free' option he means is a new option that forces it and for me at least kills performance | 22:24 |
mongy | the sluggishness is worse than the tearing | 22:24 |
earspliT | mongy, that is 100% true especially on older gpus | 22:25 |
csenger41 | tear free enabled solves the problem | 22:26 |
csenger41 | and vsync is set to always on | 22:26 |
mongy | setting tear free automatically sets vsync | 22:27 |
mongy | the 2 arent linked tho. | 22:27 |
csenger41 | ohh ok | 22:27 |
csenger41 | well it looks fine so far | 22:28 |
mongy | you can have vsync on (which may or may not have an effect) without enabling tear free | 22:28 |
csenger41 | is there any way I could monitor the GPU usage? | 22:28 |
mongy | but tear free will enable vsync always on | 22:28 |
mongy | well if its not slowing anything down or stuttering then great | 22:28 |
mongy | does for me ;( | 22:28 |
csenger41 | I can see the CPU usage, would be interested in GPU too | 22:28 |
csenger41 | its good for me | 22:28 |
earspliT | you can see the temp with | 22:29 |
earspliT | sudo aticonfig --od-gettemperature | 22:29 |
earspliT | not sure about usage | 22:29 |
csenger41 | earspliT: usage in % would be better | 22:30 |
csenger41 | something realtime | 22:30 |
earspliT | lemme look at my conky | 22:31 |
xubuntu5 | mongy it worked! | 22:32 |
xubuntu5 | now let's hope my .hosts for vlc works too and perfect! | 22:32 |
xubuntu5 | thanks again mongy always helping me! | 22:32 |
earspliT | yeah the only way i can find to get usage is to call aticonfig over and over again | 22:32 |
earspliT | my conky uses | 22:32 |
earspliT | aticonfig --adapter=0 --od-getclocks | 22:32 |
earspliT | which you could script pretty easily | 22:33 |
csenger41 | earspliT: and any way I could use this in realtime? | 22:33 |
earspliT | write a script | 22:33 |
earspliT | let me cook one up | 22:34 |
csenger41 | im not too good in such things :S | 22:34 |
csenger41 | thanks | 22:34 |
earspliT | hey you're using linux | 22:34 |
earspliT | thats where all the funs at | 22:34 |
csenger41 | would it be hard to make a panel applet similar to System Load Monitor? | 22:34 |
earspliT | conky is the best way to go | 22:34 |
earspliT | http://conky.sourceforge.net/ | 22:35 |
csenger41 | earspliT: I know, but I don't have any knowledge in such things | 22:35 |
csenger41 | cant install, lua5.1 missing, installed, but ./configure still says its missing | 22:39 |
xubuntu5 | maybe you need some common files? | 22:44 |
xubuntu5 | conky.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html check that out it's got some scripts you can look at | 22:45 |
xubuntu5 | i got 30 dollars riding on this game | 22:46 |
earspliT | csenger41: i've got your script | 22:47 |
csenger41 | earspliT: thats awesome | 22:48 |
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