[00:03] not worth it for most though [00:03] editing the files would be the way to go for XFCE [00:03] or when lxmenueditor makes its way in [00:04] I think so too. I cannot find any other Xfce menu editor. [00:04] I tried that also. It too has ome limitations. Not all menuitems showed up in that editor. But it seems to be working better than alacarte. [00:05] XFCE might have bug tracking.. you can put a wishlist bug in for xubuntu [00:06] interesting... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfdesktop/+bug/58402 [00:06] Ubuntu bug 58402 in xfdesktop (Ubuntu) "Unable to edit system menu via Xubuntu menu editor" [Undecided,Fix released] [00:08] I{ve tested it to be working before, don't really know why it wouldn't be now [00:08] Unit193: which? [00:09] Alacarte [00:09] yeah... that i have not tried myself [00:10] I just tried on a clean install of Xubuntu 11.10. And confirmed the same result on a clean install in VM. [00:13] This is the one: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=684927 [00:13] bugzilla.redhat.com bug 684927 in alacarte "alacarte needs to require gnome-panel" [Unspecified,Closed: errata] [00:24] well, i think there is a bigger bug or XFCE/xubuntu needing a native tool [00:24] that can be a wish list bug [00:24] Alacarte requires "gnome-desktop-item-edit" which is part of gnome-panel. Without it, you cannot edit any items, which makes it pretty useless. [00:25] sure, but is it really a bug that a tool designed to edit a different menu doesnt quite work 100% with this menu? [00:27] No it is not a bug. But alacarte is recommended on the Xubuntu webpage. It really shouldn't, because it does not work properly without the gnome-panel installed. [00:29] pjotter: sure, i can get with that! [00:29] http://xubuntu.org/news/faq-1110-oneiric/ (question six) [00:31] But I didn like the idea of using a tool that was not designed for Xfce anyway. So, I'll leurn how to edit the menu's by hand. No problem. [00:43] guys, i'm having a huge problem with my usb stick that i cannot fix. it doesnt work, when i try to format it with gparted it says "unrecognized disk label". [00:44] yep that happens [00:44] Cube``_, install testdisk [00:44] and try to fix it [00:45] GridCube: did. it did not manage to fix it though [00:45] i couldnt make it create a partition [00:45] using testdisk? [00:45] yes [00:45] or gparted? [00:45] testdisk [00:45] mmmm thats bad [00:45] indeed [00:46] what exactly do i need to select using testdisk thouh? [00:46] maybe im just doing it wrong [00:46] testdisk? [00:46] xubuntu5: yeah [00:47] Cube``_, http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step [00:47] :) that should tell you [00:47] i fixed one just like that yesterday [00:48] GridCube: ok, thanks! [00:48] might want to take a look at this one too: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step [00:48] http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step *** [00:48] dammit why isn't it copying correctly [00:48] using testdisk to recover the partition, i previously saved all the data that could be saved using photorec Cube``_ :) [00:48] ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=387922 [00:49] just in case you should do it Cube``_ [00:49] xubuntu5: thanks! [00:49] GridCube: yeah luckyil i dont have any data that i will miss [00:49] oh :) thats good then [00:49] also try another usb ports [00:51] yeah did :P [00:52] welcome [00:53] aiojsd oaisjd aoisdj oisdj aoisd joid [00:53] guys [00:53] look [00:53] i come to the 'analyze' point [00:53] see i dont want to recover any data, i just want to get the goddamn thing to work [00:53] so i wait through the scan [00:53] what do you want to work? [00:54] finds nothing of course, because i just zero-byted it with dd [00:54] the usb stick [00:54] i put in 'Add partition' [00:54] select FAT32 [00:54] have you used gparted? [00:54] but it doesnt appear there! [00:54] yes [00:54] fails everytime i try to create a partition [00:54] with [00:54] did you buy this drive online? [00:54] yes [00:54] it works perfectly with windows [00:54] thats the problem [00:54] i bought one online from ebay thinking it was going to be 16gb [00:54] it works with windwos! [00:54] and it was only 4 some china scam [00:54] haha [00:54] :DDD damn [00:55] i heard of that [00:55] showed up as 16gb in windows [00:55] Cube``_, i was about to tell you that [00:55] but would only hold 4 [00:55] mkay [00:55] well [00:55] i only put small pdfs on there ^^ [00:55] <5mb^^ [00:55] hmm [00:55] if it works in windows [00:55] they are so cheap now could get a new one [00:55] and its a 8gb bough in good old germany [00:55] well [00:55] then format it from there [00:55] its 10bux :/ [00:55] its in the shape of a key [00:55] you understand [00:55] thats the point [00:55] oooh [00:55] gave it ntfs [00:55] i wear it on my keychain [00:56] oooh i see [00:56] GridCube: ntfs didnt work either :'( [00:56] :/ [00:56] did you used the windows formatting tools or real ones? [00:56] what brand is it? [00:59] try parted magic instead of gparted [01:03] Hello, I'm trying to install Xubuntu but installation is stuck at log-output -t ubiquity laptop-detect. What should I do? [01:05] arabuli, if i where you i would use the alternate disk and avoid ubiquity alltogheter === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [01:08] GridCube: Can you tell me what is difference between desktop and alternate? [01:08] arabuli, alternate uses a text based installer, no gui, so its faster, nicier and faster [01:10] desktop gives you a live desktop to test stuff and it takes more time to load and its more prone to errors, [01:10] GridCube: thanks ill download it now. One more question I partitioned my hard drive with desktop installer. Will partition table be available when I do alternate install? [01:10] the alternate installer instead just lets you edit you partitions, gives you your user and password setting and then starts copying stuff [01:10] yes arabuli it will remain [01:11] just chose advanced and mount your / on th partition you wanted and your /home on the other you wanted, else delete partition or move them arround like on any partition manager [01:12] but its text based of course [01:12] gridcube: Thanks for fast and informational reply. I'll try it now. [01:12] i have a problem with my new xubuntu [01:12] !details kenshin [01:12] ok guys [01:13] GridCube: xubuntu5 [01:13] !details | kenshin [01:13] kenshin: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." [01:13] :) Cube``_ [01:13] so i followed a guys advice and ran this: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=1024 [01:13] no matter what i try i cant install packages from the software updater [01:13] now its not even recognized as a disk by testdisk O.o [01:15] it says check internet connection when i'm quite clearly on the internet [01:15] kenshin: open a terminal ... run sudo apt-get update ...report errors [01:16] kk [01:21] ok i ran the code and it spit a lot of stuff at me. none of my stuff works though, i don't have any codecs or drivers and i can't get anything off the software updater [01:22] kenshin: you just need to let us know whats going on... any errors from sudo apt-get update? [01:22] what are you trying to do? [01:23] kenshin, whats your natural language? maybe you can explain yourself on a channel where they speak the same language that you do [01:24] english [01:24] W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com oneiric Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key [01:25] for every update it showed was followed by a message like thisd [01:25] kenshin: sure, thats helpful :) [01:26] check out http://askubuntu.com/questions/1877/what-is-the-easiest-way-to-resolve-apt-get-badsig-gpg-errors/64544#64544 [01:26] ok thanks === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [02:16] Does anyone know how to make keyboard shortcuts for programs? [02:17] Menu : Settings : Settings Manager : Keyboard : Keyboard Shortcuts [02:18] Unit193: Thanks [02:18] No problem === pleia2_ is now known as pleia2 [08:48] I have a small issue, when I start my Xubuntu session I seem to be missing the Xubuntu taskbar/panel on top of desktop. Rebooting does not resolve the issue but shutting down my lappy and turning it on again does. Am I the only one with this issue? Does anyone know what I can do to resolve? [11:04] salve a tutti [11:04] hello [11:04] i have a problem [11:05] during my installation of xubuntu it seems doesn't go forward [11:06] it's written: log-ouput -t ubiquity laptopd-detect [11:06] can anyone help me please? [12:24] Hello everybody. I am still testing Xubuntu, to see if I will make the transition from Ubuntu to Xubuntu. Today, I wanted to see if I can get my USB microphones working. I already noticed that the sound-settings manager in Xubuntu differs quite a bit from that of Ubuntu. All I see is a big Alsa mixer panel with a lot of slides. Can anybody give me a hint on how to enable USB microphones in Xubuntu? Are there any wikis/websites I can read? [12:25] pjotter, try installing pavucontrol [12:26] Great! This one I know and can work with! [12:42] Hmmm... Somehow all the playback is, like 20 times too fast and muted. Very strange. Even youtube is playing in fast forward mode. [13:14] hai [13:15] i need some help gettin my dual-head display to STAY as extended desktop instead of cloned desktop ... every time i boot, I have to run grandr to make it that way ... how to I make it save that config? [13:16] sure, it only takes a few seconds, but it's really really annoying ;) [13:16] put the command in ~/.xprofile [13:18] ~/.xprofile ?? does that mean (root) .xprofile? .. ... also, how do i get the command line? i see no option for that in grandr? [13:18] or does '~' mean my $HOME ?? [13:19] i don't know what that tilde means in that position ... sry [13:19] i've also tried arandr and lxrander .. neither would let me set the desktop to expanded instead of cloned ... [13:19] *lxrandr [13:20] ah grandr. so grandr lets you set the mode but the command line versions don't? [13:21] what command line versions? you mean randr itself? that is WAAYYY beyond my current Linux skill level .. arandr and lxrandr are both graphical as well [13:21] grandr actually has drag-n-drop monitor layout [13:21] but it appears to have no option to SAVE that layout as default [13:24] http://askubuntu.com/questions/91221/how-to-tell-xubuntu-not-to-clone-but-to-expand-the-laptop-display-to-the-externa try that [13:25] I've no experience with multi monitor stuff. Just a matter of finding what options to use with xrandr and setting them in .xprofile [13:25] in your home. [13:25] k [13:25] I installed avucontrol. Now, my MXL mic is working. But the mic from my usb webcam is not. When I record (with Audacity) a sound with it and then play it back, it sounds like it is double the speed. Maybe someone here recognises this problem and knows a sollution? [13:25] thanks for the linky [13:26] another thing: Is there a tool I can use to adjust monitor gamma? my secondary monitor is WAY too dark, but the brightness is all the way up ... [13:26] also possibly color correction? i.e. calibrate my monitors to each other? [13:26] artao: I installed my prop driver. It comes with an interface that does that kind of thing. I don't know if there is a Linux driver that does that. [13:26] i suspect Linux does not have those tools [13:27] ati x600 pcie card. i have no idea either. [13:27] http://askubuntu.com/a/62270/26198 any use ? [13:27] I have an ati also [13:28] i'll be upgrading that card asap to a geforce gtx series, for the CUDA support [13:28] I use fglrx, so I have ccc installed [13:28] eh? you have Catalyst? how??? [13:28] that would be WAY nice!!! [13:28] I have [13:28] from the repo [13:28] No [13:28] That one didn't work [13:28] could install the latest version but cant be bothered. it works [13:29] where do i find what I'm currently using and change it? [13:29] I have installed it by hand. Downloaded the driver from AMD website. [13:29] http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide#Installing_Catalyst_Manually_.28from_AMD.2FATI.27s_site.29 [13:29] pretty simple guide. [13:29] i'm not particularly familiar with linux driver configuration [13:29] Me neither. It wasn too hard. [13:29] criminey!! all these linkys ... maybe i should open IRC on my desktop ... this poor old P2 400Mhz with 96M RAM can't handle more that one or two browser tabs at a time ;) ;P [13:30] justasec ... [13:30] there is a tool called redshift for adjusting brightness etc. gtk-redshift [13:31] hi there [13:31] it's artao on my desktop [13:31] would you mind reposting those links so i can use them more easily plz? [13:31] brb [13:32] http://askubuntu.com/a/62270/26198 | http://askubuntu.com/questions/91221/how-to-tell-xubuntu-not-to-clone-but-to-expand-the-laptop-display-to-the-externa | http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide#Installing_Catalyst_Manually_.28from_AMD.2FATI.27s_site.29 [13:40] thx [13:58] oh dear [13:59] is there a way I can preserve my CURRENT system setup before I try the whole "install Catalyst" thing?? ... i don't wanna accidentally lose my fresh install ;) [14:05] its simple to restore the open driver [14:05] for full backups I use clonezilla [14:54] hi all, i was trying to install the xubuntu-desktop on ubuntu, but the package will never download! i have now tried with both synaptic, ubuntu software and the terminal to no avail... [14:56] i'm using ubuntu 11.10, i follow this seemingly simple tut: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xfce [14:57] what's the error message if it doesn't download? [14:57] !pastebin [14:57] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [15:06] there is no error message, it just won't download [15:07] o? [15:07] well ok finally it has responded by saying error connection failed [15:07] slow internet? [15:07] not really [15:07] i'l try another package for test [15:10] tried audacity but its not downloading either, internet is still ok here, so maybe there's something going on with the ubuntu servers? [15:10] how can i get xubuntu to auto-detect my hdmi monitor when i connect it? [15:11] audacity worked for me [15:11] just installed it no problems [15:11] hmm i'll try again [15:11] sudo apt-get install aduacity [15:12] no problems on my end [15:12] bah its saying waiting for apt-get to exit [15:12] ciao a tutti [15:12] do you have synaptic open? [15:12] or another apt-get running [15:12] can only have one at a time [15:12] shouldn't be [15:12] restart and try installing it [15:12] k thanks [15:21] hai [15:21] same as artao .. now logged into IRC on two machines ;) ;) [15:28] hi, is it possible to disable screensavers for all users (or remove GL ones, as they hang the system) [15:32] Settings > System Manager - Screensaver [15:35] cool, the Places plugin has mount/unmount options. [15:36] hurray it is downloading now! [15:52] i got logged into xubuntu now but i can't access my home folder! it says: Error stating file '/home/naboo/.gvfs': Transport endpoint is not connected. [15:55] i have an encrypted home folder, could it be that xubuntu doesn't know this? i mean ubuntu handles it automatically [15:56] off to work :'( [15:59] i just luuuuve xubuntu plz help me :D [16:07] by all users I rather meant I won't need to log in on their profile [16:11] if its about encryption, how can i tell the xfce window manager to do it? [16:13] this is the weirdest thing... i can open all the subfolders but not the homefolder itself wth? [16:13] it has a wrong owner [16:13] but not the subfolders? [16:14] aham [16:14] that can happen [16:14] ownership its not recursive [16:14] otherwise websites wont ever work XD [16:15] well it looks like i have ownership of both the folder and the subfolders... [16:15] oh... mmm what groups do it belong to? [16:16] only me [16:17] wait [16:17] i noticed something [16:18] all folders says i'm in the group, but only the subfolders says i can read them [16:18] kim_plausible, this is my setting for my home www.zimagez.com/zimage/capturadepantalla-050212-131701.php [16:19] solo lectura is read i presume [16:19] read only [16:19] hmmm that might be it [16:20] oh no i got the same message again: Error stating file '/home/naboo/.gvfs'. Transport endpoint is not connected. [16:21] i can't change the rights [16:22] ok i could change the access on the top folder only to read, but if i also choose the subfolders it gave the error message [16:22] not even with root? [16:22] i mean using gksu thunar? [16:23] well look at that i immediatly entered home folder [16:23] ok now for the rights.... [16:24] how can i get xubuntu / xrandr to auto detect my hdmi monitor when i connect it it seems it only detects it if i have it connected when i restart my computer :( [16:24] i like to use mc for this kind of things, it makes this ownership and groups control so easy [16:24] mc = midnight commander? [16:24] yep [16:24] xubuntu5, use arandrd [16:24] xubuntu5, use arandr [16:24] arandr hmmm haven't looked into that at all [16:25] i still can't access the home folder without gksudo thunar, do i have to log out and in? [16:25] haha your sn is great instead of kim possible [16:25] :D [16:26] kim_plausible, no it should belong to you already [16:26] can i have a screenshot like the one i send you? [16:26] just installed arandr via ssh [16:26] hope it works! [16:26] sight i still get that error [16:26] so why does it hate my user? [16:27] oh yeah sure grid [16:27] is your user offensive xD? [16:27] i think so [16:27] lol [16:27] so once i connect my hdmi and turn it on [16:27] i just run arandr? [16:28] kim_plausible, did you googled your error? [16:28] http://askubuntu.com/questions/94211/failed-to-open-home-directory [16:28] duh, brb lol [16:28] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar/+bug/754618 [16:28] Ubuntu bug 754618 in thunar (Ubuntu) "Failed to open encrypted home directory" [Medium,Confirmed] [16:29] xubuntu5, arandr its like a gui for xrandr [16:29] but it allows you to save settings [16:32] kim_plausible, in that launchpad error you have a lot of things to try [16:35] i think i found my solution for now: sudo umount /home/user/.gvfs [16:35] brb [16:36] GridCube [16:36] it might have worked! [16:36] :D awesum [16:36] you are a genius! [16:36] i have been trying to figure this out for so long [16:36] thanks man! [16:36] * GridCube gives a cookie to himself [16:36] 3 [16:36] 3! [16:36] :) [16:37] welcome back ms. plausible [16:37] oh i thought i had to log out and in but that wasn't even necessary! [16:37] nope [16:37] home folder got up the moment i tried it now ! [16:37] it shouldnt [16:37] :D [16:38] good to hear that then, id recommend you add a message to the ask ubuntu saying it worked for you [16:38] i will, and thanks for being so helpfull! [16:38] :D you are welcome :) [16:39] and i can bind keys to my script with arandr i like this! [16:39] :D [16:46] thanks again gridcube [16:48] :) [19:23] Hello, someone speak spanish? [19:24] !es | xubuntu335 [19:24] xubuntu335: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #xubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #xubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. Si nadie responde allí puedes intentar preguntando en #ubuntu-es. [19:24] Thanks! [19:24] Sure [19:30] Okay finally got X back.. after rebuilding alot of AUR packages.. but now some of my gnome-icons are "blank" like nm-aplet, and all in the right corner. They work but they are "not there" any ideas which package i could have removed by mistake? [19:30] AUR? are you aware that this is the xubuntu support channel? [19:31] knome: oh lol, that was for arch channel :D sorry [19:31] np [19:49] Hello everybody. I was wondering if there are any recent alpha ISO's from Xubuntu 12.04 I can download and test? [19:50] a2 was released some time ago [19:51] Great! I just found it. [19:51] I will have a peak, how this one runs on my computer. [19:52] Generally speaking, are there many alpha's that are released before the real thing gates released? [19:54] pjotter, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule [19:55] thanks knome! [19:55] hey dudes [19:56] hey === earspliT is now known as earsplit [20:05] hi i have a question: [20:06] we all do sometimes [20:06] have migrated my laptop to xfce am quite happy [20:06] want to migrate my desktop now, has 2 monitors [20:06] how is support for multiscreen in xfce [20:06] was on kde before [20:06] nvidia? [20:07] amd [20:07] 1 card 2 heads [20:07] connected to the same graphic chipset [20:07] yes [20:07] i have a working xorg.conf [20:07] you shouldn't have any problems diff to a kde afaik [20:07] i ran into problems using 2 diff cards though [20:08] ok thanks so i will wipe my kde system [20:08] np [20:08] and another question, maybe harder: evince segfaults sporadically. can anyone help me to debug this? [20:09] happens on all pdfs as far as i can tell, but not every time. maybe 25% [20:09] beyond my scope [20:09] but that sounds like bad programming to me [20:09] not reproducable [20:09] update it [20:09] everything is up to date [20:10] try #ubuntu-bugs [20:10] you mean i should ask there? [20:10] yes [20:10] Hi can anyone help with wireless problem ? [20:10] ok thanks [20:10] np [20:11] !details | scott_76 [20:11] scott_76: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." [20:15] Sorry im a newbie so bear with me thx. Used ndiswrapper to install driver all works fine until I shut down and restart my wireless wont stsrtup again until I reinstall the driver then works fine until reboot again. Using 11.10 driver is neti2220 [20:16] BTW used extactly same in mint with no problem [20:20] Do you need anything else? [20:20] scott_76: what does "exactly the same in mint" mean? [20:20] same hardware? same driver? [20:21] what version of mint? the 11.10 version? is this a kernel issue? have you tried live CD's? *can* you try live CD's with ndisgtk? [20:23] had get wirless working with ndis on mint 11 12 and crunchbang worked everytime with no problems but xubuntu want load on boot [20:24] scott_76: so, you mean "with the same driver, all is well" [20:24] what hardware is it? [20:25] maybe you can black list something.. i would be interested in upgrading to see if a kernel rev is available and does anything [20:25] i would also be interested in using a LIVE cd for main ubuntu to get XFCE and xubuntu out of the equation [20:26] its going to be challenging to trouble shoot that from a live CD though... [20:26] yep did the same every time NPROCOMM IPN 2220 on a toshiba laptop [20:27] INPROCOMM IPN 2220 [20:29] scott_76: might be something about the module not loading... check out Edit /etc/modules file to add an entry for ndiswrapper at the end of the file [20:29] from http://phildawson.tumblr.com/post/22267163/how-to-enable-linksys-airconn-inprocomm-ipn-2220 [20:32] hi. i have a laptop with an intel 965 integrated graphics card (x3100 something). i installed xubuntu 11.04, it works fine, except that i cant use the svideo-out. xrandr only shows LVDS-1 and VGA1. [20:33] morgoth_: i havent had svideo working in linux at all yet.. never tried actually.. did you just plug it in, and try configuring LVDS? [20:33] lvds is my main monitor [20:33] morgoth_: OK.. have you tried the "other" one ? [20:33] just to see if its mirrored? and working? [20:33] nope its not [20:34] i find http://superuser.com/questions/24909/ubuntu-output-screen-to-tv-set-using-s-video [20:34] xrandr --output S-video --right-of LVDS < those kind of commands [20:35]