| Riddell | hi | 00:10 |
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| Riddell | shadeslayer: which scenarios? | 00:10 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: did the typo get fixed? | 00:11 |
| DasKreecH | Hi Riddell. Question on Kubuntu support | 00:11 |
| DasKreecH | also did you go to FOSDEm? | 00:11 |
| DasKreecH | M | 00:11 |
| Riddell | DasKreecH: yes I did go to fosdem | 00:11 |
| DasKreecH | Ok that occurred to me some time today :) How was it? | 00:12 |
| Riddell | very good | 00:12 |
| Riddell | lovely KDE people especially | 00:12 |
| DasKreecH | Hooray :) | 00:13 |
| DasKreecH | ok who wuld you speak to at Canonical to get Kubuntu support? | 00:13 |
| DasKreecH | someone would like the Ubuntu advantage package but using KDE | 00:13 |
| Riddell | DasKreecH: it's the same thing | 00:19 |
| Riddell | the telephone support team have committed to Kubuntu support for our released versions as they have to Ubuntu Desktop | 00:20 |
| DasKreecH | great. someone was worried about it. They have Ubuntu advantage and they are moving the organization to Kubuntu (to avoid Unity it seems) | 00:23 |
| Riddell | mm | 00:24 |
| DasKreecH | I'm so far skeptical of that transistion but at least they will have some support | 00:25 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: yes (: | 04:29 |
| micahg | umm, question, mimelib1 seems like a KDE3 fork, it currently has no reverse dependencies in the archive, the Debian maintainer is requesting we pull in lurker again which would give it a reverse dependency, lurker is currently blacklisted as depending on KDE3 | 04:48 |
| micahg | bug 926425 FWIW | 04:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 926425 in Ubuntu "Sync lurker 2.3-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/926425 | 04:52 |
| DasKreecH | hi mgraesslin | 05:35 |
| DasKreecH | Thanks | 05:35 |
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| Riddell | morning | 08:26 |
| nigelb | Morning Riddell | 08:29 |
| Riddell | anyone else around? | 08:38 |
| Tm_T | somewhat | 08:50 |
| * micahg is for a few more minutes | 09:02 | |
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| Riddell | apachelogger, maco: the identi.ca kubuntu group is just giving me spam for now, I left it by slightly accidental clicks on the http://identi.ca/group/kubuntu/edit UI | 12:05 |
| Riddell | you should either delete it or work out how to fix it or reinstate me as admin and make it my problem again | 12:06 |
| Quintasan | Riddell, apachelogger, shadeslayer: good news, got ubuntu to boot with u-boot on mah transformer, some plasma active pics will follow | 12:17 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning all | 12:57 |
| tsdgeos | Riddell: who do i need to kill to get https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/926129 in our packages? | 14:09 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 926129 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "Drag and drop does not take into account window shaping" [Undecided,New] | 14:09 |
| Riddell | let me see | 14:13 |
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| Riddell | tsdgeos: just a patch, if you want it in a hurry you can update the packaging and get me to upload or just wait for me to do it, I will probably have time today | 14:15 |
| tsdgeos | Riddell: yes, just applying a patch, i don't need it "now", but it would be cool if it is done today or tomorrow, can i leave it with you? | 14:16 |
| Riddell | tsdgeos: sure | 14:17 |
| tsdgeos | great :-) | 14:17 |
| Riddell | as long as you don't kill me :) | 14:17 |
| tsdgeos | deal! | 14:17 |
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| apachelogger | Quintasan: I thought youbuntoo on transformer worked already | 15:01 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: they did, but not with u-boot | 15:03 |
| Quintasan | now I has somehow working interface | 15:03 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: to make you master of the kubuntu group you'd first need to be member of it | 15:04 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: does fondling it work? | 15:04 |
| Quintasan | dunno yet | 15:05 |
| Quintasan | gotta compile some plasmas on it | 15:05 |
| * apachelogger emits sigh | 15:05 | |
| Riddell | apachelogger: I'm getting nothing but spam from it so unless there's an easy way to fix that I suspect we should just delete it | 15:08 |
| Riddell | seems to be just SEO spammers joining the group | 15:10 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: joining we can moderate | 15:20 |
| apachelogger | but yeah | 15:20 |
| apachelogger | identica is mostly overrun by spam nowadays | 15:20 |
| apachelogger | valorie: how do you handle this for the kde group? | 15:20 |
| Riddell | "use twitter" I suspect :) | 15:23 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: did you upload a fixed Qt yet? | 16:13 |
| * apachelogger wonders whether we should try getting the wayland thing built | 16:13 | |
| apachelogger | s/thing/plugin | 16:13 |
| davmor2 | apachelogger: well that's not a thing that's a whatsit or an ugimebob but not a thing | 16:14 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 16:15 |
| apachelogger | u drunk? | 16:15 |
| apachelogger | or am I? | 16:15 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 16:15 |
| apachelogger | http://i.imgur.com/8CQVt.png | 16:16 |
| apachelogger | this is broken(tm) | 16:16 |
| tsdgeos | shipit! | 16:20 |
| apachelogger | on a completely unrelated note: bzip2 in opensuse is sane again: https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/102198 | 16:23 |
| apachelogger | oh, we don't use revu anymore? :O | 16:44 |
| davmor2 | apachelogger: I think you're drunk if you use a system that looks like that ;) | 16:45 |
| apachelogger | what is wrong with that? tsdgeos says it is shipit quality | 16:45 |
| davmor2 | apachelogger: Yeah but shipit is a defunct way to get cds from canonical so that doesn't say much ;) | 16:46 |
| apachelogger | cds are defunct | 16:47 |
| apachelogger | always have been | 16:47 |
| davmor2 | haha | 16:47 |
| apachelogger | in fact I have always said we should stop using cds altogether | 16:47 |
| apachelogger | it limits the quality of the product | 16:47 |
| apachelogger | (see wallpaper resolution cuts due to space for example) | 16:47 |
| yofel | or splash screen hackery since we only ship one | 16:51 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: requires nvflash? | 16:54 |
| * shadeslayer grumbles about locked down devices | 16:56 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: dude, it's a feature not a bug! | 17:00 |
| shadeslayer | re http://i.imgur.com/8CQVt.png | 17:00 |
| apachelogger | actually, it might just not be a bug | 17:02 |
| apachelogger | there is no background in the compositor window, so there is nothing that could be redrawn there | 17:02 |
| * apachelogger wonders writing an xbox avatar plasmoid | 17:03 | |
| apachelogger | s/wonders/ponders/g | 17:04 |
| kubotu | apachelogger meant: "ponders writing an xbox avatar plasmoid" | 17:04 |
| shadeslayer | oooh | 17:04 |
| * apachelogger pets kubotu | 17:04 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: I could test that | 17:04 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: u xbox playa? | 17:04 |
| shadeslayer | ye[ | 17:04 |
| shadeslayer | *yep | 17:04 |
| apachelogger | cause I reckon there be a few of those | 17:04 |
| apachelogger | hence the idea | 17:04 |
| * apachelogger himself wouldn't have much use for it ^^ | 17:04 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: make me a mockup :P | 17:04 |
| apachelogger | also last time I tried to make a plasmoid I failed horribly | 17:05 |
| * apachelogger only makes qml plasmoids \\o/ | 17:05 | |
| apachelogger | that is... up until now I made zero | 17:05 |
| shadeslayer | uhh | 17:05 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: I think you need sheytan for mockups | 17:05 |
| shadeslayer | I'm the wrong person | 17:05 |
| apachelogger | sheytan is an artist | 17:05 |
| apachelogger | someone clone me a nuno | 17:06 |
| shadeslayer | But a couple of things that need to be in there are Gamerscore and Microsoft Points that you buy, and the games that you have | 17:06 |
| apachelogger | games that you have? | 17:07 |
| apachelogger | you killing me | 17:07 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: have you seen the app that they made for iOS devices? | 17:07 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: yes | 17:07 |
| apachelogger | avatar pic + name + score | 17:07 |
| apachelogger | + onClick() { openUrl(foo) } | 17:07 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: I didn't mean that all of it should be shown at the same time | 17:07 |
| apachelogger | kiss | 17:07 |
| shadeslayer | :-* | 17:07 |
| apachelogger | why show stuff you can get much more accessible on the intartubes | 17:08 |
| apachelogger | on that note ... score might be tricky to begin with | 17:08 |
| apachelogger | as you'd probably have to auth | 17:08 |
| shadeslayer | probably | 17:10 |
| shadeslayer | the iOS app needs auth, for everything | 17:10 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: no I'm planning on going qt now | 17:12 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: wayland thing is probably already in a PPA? for us it needs Qt 5 to be packaged for X11 then another build of Qt 5 for wayland | 17:12 |
| Riddell | but there are no tars of Qt 5 yet and they don't even know if it compiles for distros | 17:12 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: I heard they had a talk on wayland at FOSSDEM | 17:13 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: wayland is part of lighthouse which is supposed to be in qt 4.8 | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | see src/plugins/platforms/wayland | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | anywho | 17:18 |
| * apachelogger needs to leave for train | 17:19 | |
| BluesKaj | is there going be some kind of optional display , X or Wayland , once the OS development is officially released ? | 17:19 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: yes I saw it, no bling graphics yet but that'll come :) | 17:24 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: mm so maybe it could be packaged but I don't think there's much point since Qt 5 is due to come in a month or two | 17:24 |
| Riddell | qt 5 betas | 17:24 |
| Riddell | BluesKaj: .. we release the OS every 6 months | 17:25 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I don't know, perhaps it doesn't even build, was just a random thought | 17:25 |
| apachelogger | BluesKaj: X and Wayland for Qt are nothing but platform plugins | 17:26 |
| apachelogger | now I am really away | 17:26 |
| BluesKaj | Riddell, yes I'm aware of that , but I was asking about wayland as a supported option this OS once it's offically released | 17:27 |
| Riddell | wayland won't get a 1.0 in time for 12.04 | 17:28 |
| BluesKaj | Riddell, ok ,thanks | 17:29 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: Riddell I'm copying KDevelop from staging to backports PPA | 18:39 |
| * yofel didn't get to test it | 18:40 | |
| yofel | did someone? | 18:40 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: yes, bluecode from #kdevelop did | 18:40 |
| Riddell | nice thanks shadeslayer | 18:40 |
| yofel | fine then | 18:40 |
| shadeslayer | although, he says he didn't test the php packages | 18:40 |
| shadeslayer | I tested theml on a oneiric pbuilder and they installed just fine | 18:41 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: You usualy copy the binaries right? | 18:43 |
| shadeslayer | instad of rebuilding them | 18:43 |
| yofel | right | 18:43 |
| shadeslayer | done, copying now | 18:44 |
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| Quintasan | shadeslayer: What needs checking in ktp once again? | 19:17 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: contact-list | 19:17 |
| shadeslayer | and the thing before that | 19:17 |
| Quintasan | links links links | 19:17 |
| shadeslayer | approver? | 19:17 |
| Quintasan | I need a break in physics and I don't want to spend it looking for what shadeslayer uploaded where | 19:18 |
| Quintasan | :P | 19:18 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/nightly | 19:18 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: Did you have anyone else review anything else? | 19:19 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: uhh, I've been showing gkiaga the diffs, so far common-internals and accounts-kcm looked good enough for him | 19:20 |
| shadeslayer | haven't heard back for the rest of the packages | 19:20 |
| Quintasan | We reviewed common-internals and they were pushed to alioth | 19:20 |
| shadeslayer | awesome | 19:20 |
| Quintasan | Let me look at accounts-kcm | 19:21 |
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| handheldCar | There's something wrong with shutting down Kubuntu where it will just hang on the Plymouth splash. It happens to me when I use the halt command. | 20:37 |
| yofel | nothing wrong there, 'halt' *halts* the system. To shut it down use 'poweroff' | 20:42 |
| handheldCar | yofel: ok, every other system has shut down in my experience | 21:01 |
| handheldCar | halt = shutdown -h | 21:01 |
| yofel | no, halt = shutdown -H (explicit halt) | 21:02 |
| yofel | -h leaves it up to the system what it does | 21:02 |
| handheldCar | well, it just executes shutdown without an option | 21:05 |
| yofel | the manpage says "Otherwise this simply invokes the shutdown(8) tool with the appropriate arguments" - whatever those are... | 21:06 |
| yofel | it even says that there's 'halt -p' to make it poweroff instead of halting | 21:07 |
| handheldCar | 'halt --help' doesn't mention an option, but poweroff sounds great. thanks | 21:08 |
| yofel | hm, can we add kmenuedit to the desktop recommends at least? It's currently not installed by default from what I see, and should be IMO. (~300kB) | 21:35 |
| Riddell | our CDs are oversized | 21:37 |
| Riddell | that needs fixed before we add anything | 21:38 |
| yofel | true -.- | 21:38 |
| Riddell | or we just give up and call it a USB/DVD image | 21:38 |
| Darkwing | I wish we could track how many downloads we have of each images. | 21:39 |
| yofel | hm, I would give the CD's a last try for the LTS - after that I'm for dropping them | 21:39 |
| Darkwing | Or, do we? | 21:39 |
| Darkwing | yofel: +1K | 21:40 |
| Riddell | I haven't looked into it yet but I suspect it'll take removing all the HTML docs | 21:40 |
| Darkwing | On the site? | 21:40 |
| Riddell | on the kubuntu desktop CD | 21:40 |
| Darkwing | Well, after the LTS, the docs package will be reduced massivly. | 21:41 |
| Riddell | why after LTS? this needs done for the LTS | 21:41 |
| Darkwing | I'm going to build the Kubuntu Help Center we talked about at UDS. | 21:41 |
| yofel | what the... | 21:41 |
| yofel | our alternate images are almost 800MB @_@ | 21:41 |
| Darkwing | I thought we decided to wait on the Help/Welcome center... | 21:42 |
| Riddell | yofel: oh jings | 21:42 |
| yofel | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/current/ | 21:42 |
| Riddell | ubuntu desktop is about 730MB which is bad but nothing like as bad | 21:43 |
| yofel | well, our desktop images are ~735MB as well | 21:43 |
| Riddell | update to Kubuntu status https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2012-February/005782.html https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2012-February/005781.html | 23:29 |
| afiestas | Hey, can anybody package this for 11.10 and 12.04 ? | 23:42 |
| Riddell | afiestas: what? | 23:42 |
| afiestas | http://quickgit.kde.org/index.php?p=scratch%2Fafiestas%2Fappmenu.git&a=summary | 23:43 |
| Riddell | afiestas: that's the HUD equivalent? | 23:43 |
| afiestas | Riddell: yes | 23:43 |
| afiestas | not sure what HUD does though | 23:43 |
| afiestas | I mean, I know it let you search in the menubar but maybe it does more things | 23:44 |
| Riddell | I can put it on my todo but I need to take a couple of days off kubuntu I think, I'm really exhausted | 23:44 |
| afiestas | Riddell: don't worry, I'm sure some kubuntu ninja will do it apachelogger for instance | 23:45 |
| afiestas | he is highly motivated in packaging kde-hud xD | 23:45 |
| apachelogger | afiestas: you my friend just got yourself a package name'd kde-hud | 23:45 |
| apachelogger | first mailing though | 23:46 |
| afiestas | apachelogger: xDDDD | 23:46 |
| afiestas | c'mon don't do that! I put all my heart on it and now you want to call it hud... | 23:46 |
| afiestas | what I don't like of the name HUD is that it is too close to FUD xD | 23:47 |
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