Riddellshadeslayer: which scenarios?00:10
RiddellTm_T: did the typo get fixed?00:11
DasKreecHHi Riddell. Question on Kubuntu support00:11
DasKreecHalso did you go to FOSDEm?00:11
RiddellDasKreecH: yes I did go to fosdem00:11
DasKreecHOk that occurred to me some time today :) How was it?00:12
Riddellvery good00:12
Riddelllovely KDE people especially00:12
DasKreecHHooray :)00:13
DasKreecHok who wuld you speak to at Canonical to get Kubuntu support?00:13
DasKreecH someone would like the Ubuntu advantage package but using KDE00:13
RiddellDasKreecH: it's the same thing00:19
Riddellthe telephone support team have committed to Kubuntu support for our released versions as they have to Ubuntu Desktop00:20
DasKreecHgreat. someone was worried about it. They have Ubuntu advantage and they are moving the organization to Kubuntu (to avoid Unity it seems)00:23
DasKreecHI'm so far skeptical of that transistion but at least they will have some support00:25
Tm_TRiddell: yes (:04:29
micahgumm, question, mimelib1 seems like a KDE3 fork, it currently has no reverse dependencies in the archive, the Debian maintainer is requesting we pull in lurker again which would give it a reverse dependency, lurker is currently blacklisted as depending on KDE304:48
micahgbug 926425 FWIW04:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 926425 in Ubuntu "Sync lurker 2.3-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92642504:52
DasKreecHhi mgraesslin05:35
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nigelbMorning Riddell 08:29
Riddellanyone else around?08:38
* micahg is for a few more minutes09:02
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Riddellapachelogger, maco: the identi.ca kubuntu group is just giving me spam for now, I left it by slightly accidental clicks on the http://identi.ca/group/kubuntu/edit UI12:05
Riddellyou should either delete it or work out how to fix it or reinstate me as admin and make it my problem again12:06
QuintasanRiddell, apachelogger, shadeslayer: good news, got ubuntu to boot with u-boot on mah transformer, some plasma active pics will follow12:17
BluesKaj'Morning all12:57
tsdgeosRiddell: who do i need to kill to get https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/926129 in our packages?14:09
ubottuUbuntu bug 926129 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "Drag and drop does not take into account window shaping" [Undecided,New]14:09
Riddelllet me see14:13
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Riddelltsdgeos: just a patch, if you want it in a hurry you can update the packaging and get me to upload or just wait for me to do it, I will probably have time today14:15
tsdgeosRiddell: yes, just applying a patch, i don't need it "now", but it would be cool if it is done today or tomorrow, can i leave it with you? 14:16
Riddelltsdgeos: sure14:17
tsdgeosgreat :-)14:17
Riddellas long as you don't kill me :)14:17
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apacheloggerQuintasan: I thought youbuntoo on transformer worked already15:01
Quintasanapachelogger: they did, but not with u-boot15:03
Quintasannow I has somehow working interface15:03
apacheloggerRiddell: to make you master of the kubuntu group you'd first need to be member of it15:04
apacheloggerQuintasan: does fondling it work?15:04
Quintasandunno yet15:05
Quintasangotta compile some plasmas on it15:05
* apachelogger emits sigh15:05
Riddellapachelogger: I'm getting nothing but spam from it so unless there's an easy way to fix that I suspect we should just delete it15:08
Riddellseems to be just SEO spammers joining the group15:10
apacheloggerRiddell: joining we can moderate15:20
apacheloggerbut yeah15:20
apacheloggeridentica is mostly overrun by spam nowadays15:20
apacheloggervalorie: how do you handle this for the kde group?15:20
Riddell"use twitter" I suspect :)15:23
apacheloggerRiddell: did you upload a fixed Qt yet?16:13
* apachelogger wonders whether we should try getting the wayland thing built16:13
davmor2apachelogger: well that's not a thing that's a whatsit or an ugimebob but not a thing16:14
apacheloggeru drunk?16:15
apacheloggeror am I?16:15
apacheloggerthis is broken(tm)16:16
apacheloggeron a completely unrelated note: bzip2 in opensuse is sane again: https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/10219816:23
apacheloggeroh, we don't use revu anymore? :O16:44
davmor2apachelogger: I think you're drunk if you use a system that looks like that ;)16:45
apacheloggerwhat is wrong with that? tsdgeos says it is shipit quality16:45
davmor2apachelogger: Yeah but shipit is a defunct way to get cds from canonical so that doesn't say much ;)16:46
apacheloggercds are defunct16:47
apacheloggeralways have been16:47
apacheloggerin fact I have always said we should stop using cds altogether16:47
apacheloggerit limits the quality of the product16:47
apachelogger(see wallpaper resolution cuts due to space for example)16:47
yofelor splash screen hackery since we only ship one16:51
shadeslayerQuintasan: requires nvflash?16:54
* shadeslayer grumbles about locked down devices16:56
shadeslayerapachelogger: dude, it's a feature not a bug!17:00
shadeslayerre http://i.imgur.com/8CQVt.png17:00
apacheloggeractually, it might just not be a bug17:02
apacheloggerthere is no background in the compositor window, so there is nothing that could be redrawn there17:02
* apachelogger wonders writing an xbox avatar plasmoid17:03
kubotuapachelogger meant: "ponders writing an xbox avatar plasmoid"17:04
* apachelogger pets kubotu17:04
shadeslayerapachelogger: I could test that17:04
apacheloggershadeslayer: u xbox playa?17:04
apacheloggercause I reckon there be a few of those17:04
apacheloggerhence the idea17:04
* apachelogger himself wouldn't have much use for it ^^17:04
apacheloggershadeslayer: make me a mockup :P17:04
apacheloggeralso last time I tried to make a plasmoid I failed horribly17:05
* apachelogger only makes qml plasmoids \\o/17:05
apacheloggerthat is... up until now I made zero17:05
shadeslayerapachelogger: I think you need sheytan for mockups17:05
shadeslayerI'm the wrong person17:05
apacheloggersheytan is an artist17:05
apacheloggersomeone clone me a nuno17:06
shadeslayerBut a couple of things that need to be in there are Gamerscore and Microsoft Points that you buy, and the games that you have17:06
apacheloggergames that you have?17:07
apacheloggeryou killing me17:07
shadeslayerapachelogger: have you seen the app that they made for iOS devices?17:07
shadeslayerapachelogger: yes17:07
apacheloggeravatar pic + name + score17:07
apachelogger+ onClick() { openUrl(foo) }17:07
shadeslayerapachelogger: I didn't mean that all of it should be shown at the same time17:07
apacheloggerwhy show stuff you can get much more accessible on the intartubes17:08
apacheloggeron that note ... score might be tricky to begin with17:08
apacheloggeras you'd probably have to auth17:08
shadeslayerthe iOS app needs auth, for everything17:10
Riddellapachelogger: no I'm planning on going qt now17:12
Riddellapachelogger: wayland thing is probably already in a PPA?  for us it needs Qt 5 to be packaged for X11 then another build of Qt 5 for wayland17:12
Riddellbut there are no tars of Qt 5 yet and they don't even know if it compiles for distros17:12
shadeslayerRiddell: I heard they had a talk on wayland at FOSSDEM17:13
apacheloggerRiddell: wayland is part of lighthouse which is supposed to be in qt 4.817:18
apacheloggersee src/plugins/platforms/wayland17:18
* apachelogger needs to leave for train17:19
BluesKajis there going be some kind of optional display , X or Wayland , once the OS development is officially released ?17:19
Riddellshadeslayer: yes I saw it, no bling graphics yet but that'll come :)17:24
Riddellapachelogger: mm so maybe it could be packaged but I don't think there's much point since Qt 5 is due to come in a month or two17:24
Riddellqt 5 betas17:24
RiddellBluesKaj: .. we release the OS every 6 months17:25
apacheloggerRiddell: I don't know, perhaps it doesn't even build, was just a random thought17:25
apacheloggerBluesKaj: X and Wayland for Qt are nothing but platform plugins17:26
apacheloggernow I am really away17:26
BluesKajRiddell, yes I'm aware of that , but I was asking about wayland as a supported option this OS once it's offically released17:27
Riddellwayland won't get a 1.0 in time for 12.0417:28
BluesKajRiddell,  ok ,thanks17:29
shadeslayeryofel: Riddell I'm copying KDevelop from staging to backports PPA18:39
* yofel didn't get to test it18:40
yofeldid someone?18:40
shadeslayeryofel: yes, bluecode from #kdevelop did18:40
Riddellnice thanks shadeslayer 18:40
yofelfine then18:40
shadeslayeralthough, he says he didn't test the php packages18:40
shadeslayerI tested theml on a oneiric pbuilder and they installed just fine18:41
shadeslayeryofel: You usualy copy the binaries right?18:43
shadeslayerinstad of rebuilding them18:43
shadeslayerdone, copying now18:44
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Quintasanshadeslayer: What needs checking in ktp once again?19:17
shadeslayerQuintasan: contact-list19:17
shadeslayerand the thing before that19:17
Quintasanlinks links links19:17
QuintasanI need a break in physics and I don't want to spend it looking for what shadeslayer uploaded where19:18
shadeslayerQuintasan: https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/nightly19:18
Quintasanshadeslayer: Did you have anyone else review anything else?19:19
shadeslayerQuintasan: uhh, I've been showing gkiaga the diffs, so far common-internals and accounts-kcm looked good enough for him19:20
shadeslayerhaven't heard back for the rest of the packages19:20
QuintasanWe reviewed common-internals and they were pushed to alioth19:20
QuintasanLet me look at accounts-kcm19:21
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handheldCarThere's something wrong with shutting down Kubuntu where it will just hang on the Plymouth splash. It happens to me when I use the halt command.20:37
yofelnothing wrong there, 'halt' *halts* the system. To shut it down use 'poweroff'20:42
handheldCaryofel:  ok, every other system has shut down in my experience21:01
handheldCarhalt = shutdown -h21:01
yofelno, halt = shutdown -H (explicit halt)21:02
yofel-h leaves it up to the system what it does21:02
handheldCarwell, it just executes shutdown without an option21:05
yofelthe manpage says "Otherwise this simply invokes the shutdown(8) tool with the appropriate arguments" - whatever those are...21:06
yofelit even says that there's 'halt -p' to make it poweroff instead of halting21:07
handheldCar'halt --help' doesn't mention an option, but poweroff sounds great. thanks21:08
yofelhm, can we add kmenuedit to the desktop recommends at least? It's currently not installed by default from what I see, and should be IMO. (~300kB)21:35
Riddellour CDs are oversized21:37
Riddellthat needs fixed before we add anything21:38
yofeltrue -.-21:38
Riddellor we just give up and call it a USB/DVD image21:38
DarkwingI wish we could track how many downloads we have of each images.21:39
yofelhm, I would give the CD's a last try for the LTS - after that I'm for dropping them21:39
DarkwingOr, do we?21:39
Darkwingyofel: +1K21:40
RiddellI haven't looked into it yet but I suspect it'll take removing all the HTML docs21:40
DarkwingOn the site?21:40
Riddellon the kubuntu desktop CD21:40
DarkwingWell, after the LTS, the docs package will be reduced massivly.21:41
Riddellwhy after LTS?  this needs done for the LTS21:41
DarkwingI'm going to build the Kubuntu Help Center we talked about at UDS.21:41
yofelwhat the...21:41
yofelour alternate images are almost 800MB @_@21:41
DarkwingI thought we decided to wait on the Help/Welcome center...21:42
Riddellyofel: oh jings21:42
Riddellubuntu desktop is about 730MB which is bad but nothing like as bad21:43
yofelwell, our desktop images are ~735MB as well21:43
Riddellupdate to Kubuntu status https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2012-February/005782.html https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2012-February/005781.html23:29
afiestasHey, can anybody package this for 11.10 and 12.04 ?23:42
Riddellafiestas: what?23:42
Riddellafiestas: that's the HUD equivalent?23:43
afiestasRiddell: yes23:43
afiestasnot sure what HUD does though23:43
afiestasI mean, I know it let you search in the menubar but maybe it does more things23:44
RiddellI can put it on my todo but I need to take a couple of days off kubuntu I think, I'm really exhausted23:44
afiestasRiddell: don't worry, I'm sure some kubuntu ninja will do it apachelogger for instance23:45
afiestashe is highly motivated in packaging kde-hud xD23:45
apacheloggerafiestas: you my friend just got yourself a package name'd kde-hud23:45
apacheloggerfirst mailing though23:46
afiestasapachelogger: xDDDD23:46
afiestasc'mon don't do that! I put all my heart on it and now you want to call it hud...23:46
afiestaswhat I don't like of the name HUD is that it is too close to FUD xD23:47
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