[00:10] hi [00:10] shadeslayer: which scenarios? [00:11] Tm_T: did the typo get fixed? [00:11] Hi Riddell. Question on Kubuntu support [00:11] also did you go to FOSDEm? [00:11] M [00:11] DasKreecH: yes I did go to fosdem [00:12] Ok that occurred to me some time today :) How was it? [00:12] very good [00:12] lovely KDE people especially [00:13] Hooray :) [00:13] ok who wuld you speak to at Canonical to get Kubuntu support? [00:13] someone would like the Ubuntu advantage package but using KDE [00:19] DasKreecH: it's the same thing [00:20] the telephone support team have committed to Kubuntu support for our released versions as they have to Ubuntu Desktop [00:23] great. someone was worried about it. They have Ubuntu advantage and they are moving the organization to Kubuntu (to avoid Unity it seems) [00:24] mm [00:25] I'm so far skeptical of that transistion but at least they will have some support [04:29] Riddell: yes (: [04:48] umm, question, mimelib1 seems like a KDE3 fork, it currently has no reverse dependencies in the archive, the Debian maintainer is requesting we pull in lurker again which would give it a reverse dependency, lurker is currently blacklisted as depending on KDE3 [04:52] bug 926425 FWIW [04:52] Launchpad bug 926425 in Ubuntu "Sync lurker 2.3-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/926425 [05:35] hi mgraesslin [05:35] Thanks === yofel_ is now known as yofel === agateau_ is now known as agateau [08:26] morning [08:29] Morning Riddell [08:38] anyone else around? [08:50] somewhat [09:02] * micahg is for a few more minutes === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [12:05] apachelogger, maco: the identi.ca kubuntu group is just giving me spam for now, I left it by slightly accidental clicks on the http://identi.ca/group/kubuntu/edit UI [12:06] you should either delete it or work out how to fix it or reinstate me as admin and make it my problem again [12:17] Riddell, apachelogger, shadeslayer: good news, got ubuntu to boot with u-boot on mah transformer, some plasma active pics will follow [12:57] 'Morning all [14:09] Riddell: who do i need to kill to get https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/926129 in our packages? [14:09] Ubuntu bug 926129 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "Drag and drop does not take into account window shaping" [Undecided,New] [14:13] let me see === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_ [14:15] tsdgeos: just a patch, if you want it in a hurry you can update the packaging and get me to upload or just wait for me to do it, I will probably have time today [14:16] Riddell: yes, just applying a patch, i don't need it "now", but it would be cool if it is done today or tomorrow, can i leave it with you? [14:17] tsdgeos: sure [14:17] great :-) [14:17] as long as you don't kill me :) [14:17] deal! === rdieter_laptop is now known as rdieter [15:01] Quintasan: I thought youbuntoo on transformer worked already [15:03] apachelogger: they did, but not with u-boot [15:03] now I has somehow working interface [15:04] Riddell: to make you master of the kubuntu group you'd first need to be member of it [15:04] Quintasan: does fondling it work? [15:05] dunno yet [15:05] gotta compile some plasmas on it [15:05] * apachelogger emits sigh [15:08] apachelogger: I'm getting nothing but spam from it so unless there's an easy way to fix that I suspect we should just delete it [15:10] seems to be just SEO spammers joining the group [15:20] Riddell: joining we can moderate [15:20] but yeah [15:20] identica is mostly overrun by spam nowadays [15:20] valorie: how do you handle this for the kde group? [15:23] "use twitter" I suspect :) [16:13] Riddell: did you upload a fixed Qt yet? [16:13] * apachelogger wonders whether we should try getting the wayland thing built [16:13] s/thing/plugin [16:14] apachelogger: well that's not a thing that's a whatsit or an ugimebob but not a thing [16:15] Oo [16:15] u drunk? [16:15] or am I? [16:15] Oo [16:16] http://i.imgur.com/8CQVt.png [16:16] this is broken(tm) [16:20] shipit! [16:23] on a completely unrelated note: bzip2 in opensuse is sane again: https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/102198 [16:44] oh, we don't use revu anymore? :O [16:45] apachelogger: I think you're drunk if you use a system that looks like that ;) [16:45] what is wrong with that? tsdgeos says it is shipit quality [16:46] apachelogger: Yeah but shipit is a defunct way to get cds from canonical so that doesn't say much ;) [16:47] cds are defunct [16:47] always have been [16:47] haha [16:47] in fact I have always said we should stop using cds altogether [16:47] it limits the quality of the product [16:47] (see wallpaper resolution cuts due to space for example) [16:51] or splash screen hackery since we only ship one [16:54] Quintasan: requires nvflash? [16:56] * shadeslayer grumbles about locked down devices [17:00] apachelogger: dude, it's a feature not a bug! [17:00] re http://i.imgur.com/8CQVt.png [17:02] actually, it might just not be a bug [17:02] there is no background in the compositor window, so there is nothing that could be redrawn there [17:03] * apachelogger wonders writing an xbox avatar plasmoid [17:04] s/wonders/ponders/g [17:04] apachelogger meant: "ponders writing an xbox avatar plasmoid" [17:04] oooh [17:04] * apachelogger pets kubotu [17:04] apachelogger: I could test that [17:04] shadeslayer: u xbox playa? [17:04] ye[ [17:04] *yep [17:04] cause I reckon there be a few of those [17:04] hence the idea [17:04] * apachelogger himself wouldn't have much use for it ^^ [17:04] shadeslayer: make me a mockup :P [17:05] also last time I tried to make a plasmoid I failed horribly [17:05] * apachelogger only makes qml plasmoids \\o/ [17:05] that is... up until now I made zero [17:05] uhh [17:05] apachelogger: I think you need sheytan for mockups [17:05] I'm the wrong person [17:05] sheytan is an artist [17:06] someone clone me a nuno [17:06] But a couple of things that need to be in there are Gamerscore and Microsoft Points that you buy, and the games that you have [17:07] games that you have? [17:07] you killing me [17:07] apachelogger: have you seen the app that they made for iOS devices? [17:07] apachelogger: yes [17:07] avatar pic + name + score [17:07] + onClick() { openUrl(foo) } [17:07] apachelogger: I didn't mean that all of it should be shown at the same time [17:07] kiss [17:07] :-* [17:08] why show stuff you can get much more accessible on the intartubes [17:08] on that note ... score might be tricky to begin with [17:08] as you'd probably have to auth [17:10] probably [17:10] the iOS app needs auth, for everything [17:12] apachelogger: no I'm planning on going qt now [17:12] apachelogger: wayland thing is probably already in a PPA? for us it needs Qt 5 to be packaged for X11 then another build of Qt 5 for wayland [17:12] but there are no tars of Qt 5 yet and they don't even know if it compiles for distros [17:13] Riddell: I heard they had a talk on wayland at FOSSDEM [17:18] Riddell: wayland is part of lighthouse which is supposed to be in qt 4.8 [17:18] see src/plugins/platforms/wayland [17:18] anywho [17:19] * apachelogger needs to leave for train [17:19] is there going be some kind of optional display , X or Wayland , once the OS development is officially released ? [17:24] shadeslayer: yes I saw it, no bling graphics yet but that'll come :) [17:24] apachelogger: mm so maybe it could be packaged but I don't think there's much point since Qt 5 is due to come in a month or two [17:24] qt 5 betas [17:25] BluesKaj: .. we release the OS every 6 months [17:25] Riddell: I don't know, perhaps it doesn't even build, was just a random thought [17:26] BluesKaj: X and Wayland for Qt are nothing but platform plugins [17:26] now I am really away [17:27] Riddell, yes I'm aware of that , but I was asking about wayland as a supported option this OS once it's offically released [17:28] wayland won't get a 1.0 in time for 12.04 [17:29] Riddell, ok ,thanks [18:39] yofel: Riddell I'm copying KDevelop from staging to backports PPA [18:40] * yofel didn't get to test it [18:40] did someone? [18:40] yofel: yes, bluecode from #kdevelop did [18:40] nice thanks shadeslayer [18:40] fine then [18:40] although, he says he didn't test the php packages [18:41] I tested theml on a oneiric pbuilder and they installed just fine [18:43] yofel: You usualy copy the binaries right? [18:43] instad of rebuilding them [18:43] right [18:44] done, copying now === Guest21792 is now known as jussi01 [19:17] shadeslayer: What needs checking in ktp once again? [19:17] Quintasan: contact-list [19:17] and the thing before that [19:17] links links links [19:17] approver? [19:18] I need a break in physics and I don't want to spend it looking for what shadeslayer uploaded where [19:18] :P [19:18] Quintasan: https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/nightly [19:19] shadeslayer: Did you have anyone else review anything else? [19:20] Quintasan: uhh, I've been showing gkiaga the diffs, so far common-internals and accounts-kcm looked good enough for him [19:20] haven't heard back for the rest of the packages [19:20] We reviewed common-internals and they were pushed to alioth [19:20] awesome [19:21] Let me look at accounts-kcm === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh [20:37] There's something wrong with shutting down Kubuntu where it will just hang on the Plymouth splash. It happens to me when I use the halt command. [20:42] nothing wrong there, 'halt' *halts* the system. To shut it down use 'poweroff' [21:01] yofel: ok, every other system has shut down in my experience [21:01] halt = shutdown -h [21:02] no, halt = shutdown -H (explicit halt) [21:02] -h leaves it up to the system what it does [21:05] well, it just executes shutdown without an option [21:06] the manpage says "Otherwise this simply invokes the shutdown(8) tool with the appropriate arguments" - whatever those are... [21:07] it even says that there's 'halt -p' to make it poweroff instead of halting [21:08] 'halt --help' doesn't mention an option, but poweroff sounds great. thanks [21:35] hm, can we add kmenuedit to the desktop recommends at least? It's currently not installed by default from what I see, and should be IMO. (~300kB) [21:37] our CDs are oversized [21:38] that needs fixed before we add anything [21:38] true -.- [21:38] or we just give up and call it a USB/DVD image [21:39] I wish we could track how many downloads we have of each images. [21:39] hm, I would give the CD's a last try for the LTS - after that I'm for dropping them [21:39] Or, do we? [21:40] yofel: +1K [21:40] I haven't looked into it yet but I suspect it'll take removing all the HTML docs [21:40] On the site? [21:40] on the kubuntu desktop CD [21:41] Well, after the LTS, the docs package will be reduced massivly. [21:41] why after LTS? this needs done for the LTS [21:41] I'm going to build the Kubuntu Help Center we talked about at UDS. [21:41] what the... [21:41] our alternate images are almost 800MB @_@ [21:42] I thought we decided to wait on the Help/Welcome center... [21:42] yofel: oh jings [21:42] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/current/ [21:43] ubuntu desktop is about 730MB which is bad but nothing like as bad [21:43] well, our desktop images are ~735MB as well [23:29] update to Kubuntu status https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2012-February/005782.html https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2012-February/005781.html [23:42] Hey, can anybody package this for 11.10 and 12.04 ? [23:42] afiestas: what? [23:43] http://quickgit.kde.org/index.php?p=scratch%2Fafiestas%2Fappmenu.git&a=summary [23:43] afiestas: that's the HUD equivalent? [23:43] Riddell: yes [23:43] not sure what HUD does though [23:44] I mean, I know it let you search in the menubar but maybe it does more things [23:44] I can put it on my todo but I need to take a couple of days off kubuntu I think, I'm really exhausted [23:45] Riddell: don't worry, I'm sure some kubuntu ninja will do it apachelogger for instance [23:45] he is highly motivated in packaging kde-hud xD [23:45] afiestas: you my friend just got yourself a package name'd kde-hud [23:46] first mailing though [23:46] apachelogger: xDDDD [23:46] c'mon don't do that! I put all my heart on it and now you want to call it hud... [23:47] what I don't like of the name HUD is that it is too close to FUD xD === koolhead17 is now known as koolhead17|zzZZ