| freeroute | that would seriously make the life a lot less hellish | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| phillw | freeroute: what size is the USB stick? | 00:00 |
| freeroute | phillw: 16gb | 00:00 |
| phillw | freeroute: how much of that can you spare for the system? | 00:00 |
| freeroute | phillw: you mean installing lubuntu on my USB stick? It's an option, but as of now I can choose between a few distro's which I've loaded using YUMI | 00:02 |
| phillw | what are you using for the Live system's persistance? | 00:02 |
| freeroute | phillw: oh YUMI doesn't do persistence (yet) :( | 00:02 |
| phillw | freeroute: now you have lost me. On what system are using live lubuntu? | 00:03 |
| freeroute | phillw: I'm using it basically like a liveCD, but I've booted it from a USBstick | 00:04 |
| freeroute | and I've loaded the image onto the stick using YUMI | 00:04 |
| phillw | I've never heard of YUMI, sorry. Is that from pendrivelinux people? | 00:05 |
| freeroute | phillw: yup, SARDU is another one, and it does handle persistence iirc | 00:07 |
| freeroute | also, I think I discovered that htop (or top) doesn't have the function like the Lubuntu Task Manager to "Show memory used by cache as free" | 00:08 |
| phillw | freeroute: I've never set a pen drive up as multi-boot. The guys at pendrivelinux are pretty darn good. I'm sure if you post a question there they will answer. I can get instructions as to how to copy the existing casper onto a hard drive, make a larger one and then copy it back. But that is about it. | 00:08 |
| freeroute | phillw: cool, I think SARDU wanted to support that somewhere in the future (long time since I tried to use it), so I might also look there first. | 00:10 |
| phillw | freeroute: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7203866&postcount=2 | 00:10 |
| freeroute | phillw: oooh yeah I remember reading this one time | 00:11 |
| freeroute | thanks for bringing this up, I remember thinking that I was too noob to pull something off because at that time I was a windows-only user hehe | 00:12 |
| phillw | well, you may like to read the entire thread, as it also says about copying to hard-drive as a backup. | 00:12 |
| freeroute | and in windows at that time there was no option to make the casper-rw file larger | 00:13 |
| phillw | yvw | 00:13 |
| gordon1234 | Hi, just downgrades from Ubuntu 11.10 to lubuntu 11.10 ... trying to use Sylpheed instead of Thurderbird ... can it use Google Contact and Google Calendar? | 05:02 |
| Silverlion | hey phillw | 12:30 |
| phillw | hi Silverlion | 12:30 |
| Silverlion | may i have your attention? | 12:30 |
| phillw | sure | 12:30 |
| giuseppe60 | hello | 13:02 |
| === nothingspecial is now known as angela-android | ||
| giuseppe60 | it is true that to improve navigation on the Internet, you must disable IPV 6? | 13:16 |
| head_victim | Not in all cases. | 13:16 |
| giuseppe60 | I recently installed Lubuntu on a PC Pentium 4 CPU, 1500 Mgh, 1GB RAM | 13:18 |
| giuseppe60 | I installed chromium, korqueror, operates, but the openings of the web pages are not fast | 13:20 |
| head_victim | It could be related to ipv6 but unless you know what you're doing troubleshooting that can be difficult. | 13:21 |
| head_victim | I'd also be looking at running the command "top" in a terminal when you're opening these pages to see if it's maxing out your hardware. Some pages have lots of extra stuff on it which can chug down slower CPUs. | 13:21 |
| giuseppe60 | can to try? | 13:23 |
| giuseppe60 | Ubuntu was a little heavy for my pc | 13:24 |
| head_victim | I can imagine it would be a little heavy. Those specs are very basic. | 13:24 |
| giuseppe60 | head_victim, Then you say you better leave it like? | 13:31 |
| head_victim | giuseppe60: I guess I'm saying I personally don't know enough to assist troubleshooting via IRC. You might have some luck with google. | 13:32 |
| giuseppe60 | head_victim, forget it: Thanks, I'm not lucky in google | 13:35 |
| head_victim | giuseppe60: ah well hopefully someone who knows ipv6 better will be along | 13:36 |
| head_victim | Personally I'd still be checking out the command "top" to make sure it's nto a hardware bottleneck as well thouh | 13:36 |
| head_victim | !top | 13:36 |
| giuseppe60 | head_victim, Since you are an expert deduce something? http://paste.ubuntu.com/831365/ | 13:43 |
| phillw | giuseppe60: thanks, got that one. Now can you launch Chromium and open up a few pages, then report the output of top so we can see the difference. | 13:55 |
| giuseppe60 | phillw, chromium http://paste.ubuntu.com/831391/ | 14:02 |
| phillw | giuseppe60: okay, you're approaching your maximum in built RAM now. If you open more pages, launch other programmes you will start using swap area which is a lot slower. | 14:03 |
| phillw | the CPU usage (how hard the computer is working) is still quite good. I'd recommend saving up & treating the machine to an extra 1GB of RAM. It's worth it as the CPU can handle the workload. | 14:04 |
| giuseppe60 | phillw, I then add 1 gb of ram? | 14:06 |
| phillw | giuseppe60: you'd have to check what is already installed. If it 2 X 512 MB RAM - then you will need 2 X 1 GB RAM. If you're lucky, as I was - it will have 1 X 1GB RAM installed and a spare slot for another one. | 14:08 |
| Sentynel | 1GB of RAM ought to be plenty, really; I have a system with 512MB that runs lubuntu fine | 14:10 |
| Sentynel | I do see that you have a whole bunch of KDE processes running | 14:10 |
| Sentynel | do you actually use KDE software? if not, get rid of them | 14:10 |
| phillw | Sentynel: good point :) | 14:12 |
| giuseppe60 | the problem is that I only open x-chat chromium | 14:12 |
| phillw | giuseppe60: did you install lubuntu onto of kubuntu? | 14:13 |
| giuseppe60 | lubuntu | 14:13 |
| phillw | puzzled as to why you have kubuntu stuff running. | 14:13 |
| giuseppe60 | I'm told that kubuntu was heavy | 14:13 |
| giuseppe60 | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/11.10/release/ | 14:15 |
| phillw | giuseppe60: you must have installed some kde programmes then. | 14:16 |
| giuseppe60 | I installed and LibreOffice korqueror | 14:17 |
| phillw | giuseppe60: you can get rid of them and get back to pure lubuntu by following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/UpgradeToLubuntu (The removing section). | 14:17 |
| Sentynel | konqueror would be the one, yes | 14:17 |
| phillw | I think konqueror has invited half of kde in with it! | 14:18 |
| phillw | we see it also when people add certain Gnome programmes - they have many dependencies that are added, then wonder why everything has gone slow! | 14:19 |
| giuseppe60 | Sentynel, korqueror http://paste.ubuntu.com/831365/ | 14:19 |
| giuseppe60 | phillw, true | 14:20 |
| phillw | giuseppe60: you can see a lot of tasks running that begin with k :/ | 14:21 |
| giuseppe60 | phillw, because I tried different browsers: midori, epiphany, opera, chromium, and it seemed faster korqueror | 14:21 |
| phillw | ahh, for lubuntu the two to choose from would be midori or Chromium that I of hear people running. Knonqueror has certainly brought a lot of extra stuff with it that eating your precious RAM. | 14:23 |
| Sentynel | KDE runs a whole pile of support processes and the like | 14:23 |
| Sentynel | which is reasonably efficient for a pure KDE system, but kinda wasteful for a single piece of software | 14:23 |
| giuseppe60 | phillw, midori no translator web pages | 14:24 |
| giuseppe60 | I also tried safari | 14:25 |
| phillw | giuseppe60: Then you'll have to get used to Chromium. | 14:25 |
| giuseppe60 | and already | 14:25 |
| phillw | If you have been installing all sorts of stuff to try them out - It will be much easier to just re-install lubuntu :) | 14:26 |
| giuseppe60 | it takes 2 hours of installation of Lubuntu | 14:27 |
| giuseppe60 | wait for the 12.04 | 14:27 |
| giuseppe60 | wait for the 12.04 | 14:27 |
| giuseppe60 | if you take away korqueror, I will remove kde ??? | 14:28 |
| phillw | giuseppe60: no, you'd need to run the 'pure lxde' command in the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/UpgradeToLubuntu area to remove all the extras that came with it. | 14:29 |
| Sentynel | http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde the 'remove kubuntu' command on this page should do it | 14:30 |
| Sentynel | you'll probably get a pile of "not installed, so not removed" messages 'cos konq won't have pulled in the entire kubuntu set, but it should get rid of the rest | 14:31 |
| phillw | giuseppe60: just make sure you use the correct version number. you need the page that says 11.10 :) | 14:32 |
| giuseppe60 | wait for April with the new system, then format | 14:35 |
| giuseppe60 | for the string to put my case would be | 14:37 |
| giuseppe60 | sudo apt-get install desktop-Lubuntu | 14:37 |
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| faLUCE | hi. how can I add a "custom application launcher" (similar to the ubuntu one) to the lxde panel ? | 15:11 |
| valdur55 | Right click on panel -> Add/remove panel items -> Add -> Launcher | 15:11 |
| holstein | faLUCE: you can just pick one, and install it... and configure to your needs | 15:11 |
| holstein | i like how xubuntu uses a panel to look like a dock | 15:12 |
| valdur55 | Does lubuntu support two panels? | 15:12 |
| giuseppe60 | phillw, Sentynel http://paste.ubuntu.com/831452/ | 15:12 |
| holstein | valdur55: its just openbox with panels added... just add as many as you like | 15:13 |
| Sentynel | giuseppe60: what about it? | 15:13 |
| faLUCE | holstein: can you suggest me one to install ? | 15:13 |
| faLUCE | valdur55: it doesn't work for custom applications | 15:14 |
| holstein | faLUCE: sure.. i *really* like the idea of just using a panel, since you dont have to add more applications | 15:14 |
| holstein | avant is one lots of folks use... wbar is a simple one that i like to set up for folks sometimes | 15:14 |
| giuseppe60 | Sentynel, I deleted konquerorm and KDE libraries | 15:14 |
| Sentynel | giuseppe60: you've still got kde processes running, so apparently you didn't | 15:14 |
| holstein | faLUCE: they are all so different, its really up to you what works for you and what you are looking for | 15:15 |
| Sentynel | giuseppe60: although, you might need to reboot, if they were already running and you haven't done that | 15:15 |
| faLUCE | no, no, no... I'm searching for a SIMPLE application launcher that can be added to the lxde panel. | 15:16 |
| faLUCE | I don't want extra stuff. I only want to have a launcher on the lxde panel | 15:16 |
| giuseppe60 | Sentynel, I have not restarted your PC | 15:17 |
| valdur55 | faLUCE, search custom launcher maybe :) | 15:17 |
| Sentynel | giuseppe60: well, restart and then check if there's any processes beginning with k listed in top | 15:17 |
| valdur55 | faLUCE, in add list | 15:17 |
| faLUCE | valdur55: it allows me to choose only an application listed in the menu | 15:18 |
| holstein | faLUCE: right... you can set up a row of launchers in a panel you create | 15:18 |
| valdur55 | faLUCE, wait.. i will boot to lxde :) | 15:18 |
| faLUCE | valdur55: thanks. holstein, you did not understand my question | 15:19 |
| holstein | faLUCE: i have seen the unity launcher though, and if i make a new panel, and line up launchers in it, that'll look and feel a lot like that "dock" | 15:20 |
| holstein | faLUCE: i think you are still looking for a "unity launcher" button... and there is not one... you'll need to either install a dock-type app, or create one with a panel | 15:21 |
| faLUCE | holstein: read better what I asked... | 15:22 |
| holstein | faLUCE: nah, i'll just wait for you to elaborate :) but thanks for the command | 15:23 |
| faLUCE | holstein: there's already an application launcher. but it doesn't allow to launch programs that are not listed in the menu. | 15:23 |
| holstein | faLUCE: you can create a custom one... | 15:24 |
| faLUCE | holstein: I don't want to create a new launcher. | 15:25 |
| holstein | faLUCE: ?... in order to have a lanucher for something that doesnt have one... youd need to create one | 15:25 |
| faLUCE | holstein: I want to configure, not to create | 15:25 |
| faLUCE | holstein: that's not a good solution. | 15:26 |
| faLUCE | it's nonsense. | 15:26 |
| holstein | faLUCE: OK.. configure a custom one | 15:26 |
| holstein | faLUCE: im not following... you seem quite upset by this, and i think im misunderstanding you | 15:26 |
| valdur55 | Damn... i can't do that with lxde | 15:26 |
| faLUCE | holstein: in fact you did not understand my question. valdur55 understood it | 15:27 |
| valdur55 | but... i did it somehow :) lol | 15:27 |
| holstein | OK... enjoy guys, and good luck :) | 15:27 |
| faLUCE | valdur55: in which way? | 15:27 |
| faLUCE | which file did you change? | 15:27 |
| valdur55 | i maked new desktop file and puted it to one folder | 15:28 |
| Sentynel | surely the easiest way of doing this is just to create a .desktop file for the program in question, thus adding it to the applications available from the launcher | 15:29 |
| Sentynel | http://developer.gnome.org/integration-guide/stable/desktop-files.html.en | 15:29 |
| holstein | yeah, thats what i was meaning by "create" | 15:30 |
| faLUCE | holstein: "create" can mean all and nothing | 15:30 |
| valdur55 | But.. i wanted to make it with GUI :) | 15:30 |
| valdur55 | http://algorithmicmadness.blogspot.com/2011/12/lubuntu-custom-application-launcher.html :P | 15:31 |
| Sentynel | I'm not aware of there being an option to do this in lxde. desktop files aren't very complicated; kde has a gui tool to create one but it's basically just a list of the fields in the file | 15:32 |
| faLUCE | valdur55: Sentynel, thanks. | 15:32 |
| valdur55 | Yea :) But some pepole don't know desktop file trick | 15:33 |
| giuseppe60 | hello | 15:49 |
| giuseppe60 | Sentynel, still there? http://paste.ubuntu.com/831509/ | 15:51 |
| Sentynel | you still seem to have kde stuff running | 15:52 |
| giuseppe60 | ok | 15:53 |
| phillw | Sentynel: lubuntu does use some kde stuff. | 15:56 |
| giuseppe60 | I removed everything about KDE package manager | 15:57 |
| giuseppe60 | now look Lubuntu 12.04 in April | 15:58 |
| phillw | kworker/0:0 , kthreadd , ksoftirqd/0 , ksoftirqd/1 , khelper are all active on mine - but I'm running a non-standard install. | 15:58 |
| Sentynel | yeah I don't have a pure lubuntu machine handy to check | 15:59 |
| Sentynel | they might not actually be kde components, just confusingly named | 15:59 |
| giuseppe60 | phillw, uses too lubutnu | 15:59 |
| phillw | Sentynel: As it happens, I'm actually installing a pure lubuntu 11.10 right now - although with all the updates and my slow b/band speed the update is taking a while! | 16:00 |
| giuseppe60 | I also did cleaning of orphaned libraries | 16:01 |
| Sentynel | phillw: the pids of the k* in that top list are too low for them to be kde components; must be kernel stuff | 16:03 |
| Sentynel | well, not kernel, but base system | 16:03 |
| phillw | all those processes listed above with the exception of khelper are running on the virgin machine. | 16:03 |
| giuseppe60 | Sentynel, I read "To increase performance by zRam", what do you think? | 16:16 |
| Sentynel | no idea | 16:17 |
| giuseppe60 | I give up | 16:18 |
| giuseppe60 | thanks | 16:19 |
| faLUCE | valdur55: Sentynelwhere should I place the custom .desktop file ? | 16:22 |
| valdur55 | http://algorithmicmadness.blogspot.com/2011/12/lubuntu-custom-application-launcher.html :P | 16:22 |
| faLUCE | valdur55: thanks ;-) | 16:23 |
| phillw | faLUCE: a really handy place to head for help on such things is the FAQ section of the wiki. http://tinyurl.com/LubuntuFAQ | 16:26 |
| EvilResistance | hey phillw, whats the package name of the runtime environment for LXDE? i like trying various DEs, which explains why i have GNOME and KDE on the same machine xD | 16:26 |
| phillw | AFAIK, it is LXDE - But will be changing to LightDM | 16:27 |
| EvilResistance | i'm still on 11.04, and plan to clean-install when 12.04 comes out... | 16:28 |
| EvilResistance | upgraded installations suck :P | 16:28 |
| phillw | EvilResistance: I also prefer to fresh install. having a /home partition makes sense :P | 16:28 |
| EvilResistance | phillw, having a clone of the old hard drive makes more sense... :P | 16:29 |
| * EvilResistance routinely clones his hard drive as a backup method | 16:29 | |
| phillw | EvilResistance: this laptop has 2 X 500GB drives - I keep a clone and a backup on an external 500GB in case my laptop got stolen! | 16:30 |
| EvilResistance | lol | 16:30 |
| EvilResistance | this system's a 3 year old laptop, but can still run KDE effectively *shrugs* | 16:30 |
| EvilResistance | i fully expect it to not be able to run KDE in 12.04 though... | 16:30 |
| phillw | If I had decent b/band speed I'd back upto the server. | 16:30 |
| EvilResistance | as i said its a 3 year old laptop | 16:30 |
| Sentynel | kde's system requirements haven't really increased in the last year | 16:33 |
| phillw | Sentynel: they run a tight ship on that team :) | 16:34 |
| Sentynel | my netbook runs kde tolerably, even, it's just a little laggy | 16:34 |
| EvilResistance | hell, 95% of what I do is done via the command line anyways :P | 16:34 |
| phillw | EvilResistance: I draw the line at mysql stuff, except for dumping and importing dbases :) | 16:35 |
| EvilResistance | :P | 16:35 |
| EvilResistance | i draw the line at "Anything short of using VirtualBox" | 16:35 |
| Sentynel | (note: I'm an Amarok dev, so I might be a slightly biased source here =) | 16:36 |
| phillw | EvilResistance: I'm just learning KVM | 16:36 |
| phillw | but, we digress... I'll have to tell myself off for not using #lubuntu-offtopic (it's not logged :P) | 16:36 |
| downbeam | my lubuntu wont recognize my cd-r drive | 17:41 |
| downbeam | my lubuntu wont recognize my cd-r drive | 17:42 |
| downbeam | hello | 17:43 |
| downbeam | is anyone there? | 17:43 |
| downbeam | HELP | 17:43 |
| downbeam | HELP | 17:43 |
| downbeam | HELP | 17:43 |
| wxl | downbeam: i'm pretty sure that repeating yourself isn't going to help you any | 17:46 |
| wxl | that being said, are you sure it works? have you checked with any other operating system? | 17:46 |
| downbeam | yes i have a burner | 17:46 |
| wxl | that's not what i asked | 17:46 |
| wxl | but i have to go | 17:46 |
| wxl | be back when i can | 17:46 |
| downbeam | but it lubuntu wont recognize it | 17:46 |
| downbeam | bkm | 17:48 |
| downbeam | can you help | 17:48 |
| downbeam | ? | 17:48 |
| bkm | not likely | 17:50 |
| wxl | downbeam: last chance here-- have you made sure, with any other operating system, that it does indeed function correctly? | 17:50 |
| downbeam | yes | 17:51 |
| bkm | the only hope is if you have access to multiple machines. if the cd works nowhere, suspect the cd | 17:51 |
| wxl | ok so that's step one | 17:51 |
| wxl | so how do you know that the drive isn't recognized? | 17:51 |
| downbeam | when i try to burn a cd the drive doesnt come up as an option | 17:52 |
| wxl | what are you using to burn? | 17:52 |
| downbeam | my laptop | 17:54 |
| downbeam | xfburn | 17:54 |
| wxl | open up disk utility | 17:54 |
| wxl | click on the cd drive | 17:55 |
| wxl | click unmount | 17:55 |
| wxl | try again | 17:55 |
| wxl | if the cd drive doesn't show up there then there is a problem | 17:55 |
| downbeam | wont that ultimately fuck me??? | 17:55 |
| wxl | computers usually aren't equipped for that | 17:56 |
| downbeam | i'm trying disk utility but it wont run | 17:56 |
| downbeam | nvm | 17:57 |
| downbeam | IT'S smart status says unsupported | 17:57 |
| downbeam | should i format it???? | 18:00 |
| downbeam | it won't format are you there? | 18:01 |
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| downbeam | it won't format are you there? | 18:02 |
| downbeam | it won't format are you there? | 18:02 |
| downbeam | it says it's not partitioned | 18:02 |
| downbeam | wx1 your a dick | 18:04 |
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| wxl | sheesh sorry i have a job ;/ | 18:09 |
| wxl | whatever | 18:09 |
| Tm_T | oh, right | 18:11 |
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| xh | hi! excuse me, but how the .. can i disable auto-maximize in lubuntu lxde? i find it inhuman.. | 19:44 |
| wxl | xh: what version are you on? | 19:55 |
| pangolin | hello ubot5 :) | 21:00 |
| pangolin | err | 21:00 |
| pangolin | ubottu: | 21:00 |
| pangolin | !test | 21:02 |
| ubottu | Testing... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use #test ) | 21:02 |
| Unit193 | bug 889414 | 21:03 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 889414 in lxpanel (Ubuntu) "Run dialog opens up in the background" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/889414 | 21:03 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 889414 in lxpanel (Ubuntu) "Run dialog opens up in the background" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/889414 | 21:03 |
| wxl | oh good that's not annoying | 21:03 |
| Unit193 | wxl: All fixed now | 21:06 |
| jskelington | hey folks | 21:21 |
| jskelington | I am having a problem with my ubuntu installations. They are all automatically taking screenshots | 21:21 |
| MrChrisDruif | jskelington; what? How can that be and is it normal Ubuntu or Lubuntu (LXDE)? | 21:22 |
| rossball | jskelington: have you checked that the PrtSc button is not 'sticky'? | 21:23 |
| MrChrisDruif | That would be my next question indeed ^_^ | 21:23 |
| MrChrisDruif | Or is it periodically taking screenshots? | 21:24 |
| jskelington | not physically... | 21:24 |
| MrChrisDruif | Like every hour, every five minutes..? | 21:24 |
| jskelington | nope... constantly | 21:24 |
| MrChrisDruif | Most likely it seems to be a stuck key <_<" | 21:25 |
| Unit193 | We can tell you that's not the normal outcome | 21:25 |
| jskelington | it's not physcially stuck.. maybe I should take it off... if I am in xorg it stalls out my system it takes the scrots so rapidly | 21:25 |
| jskelington | and how do I change windows in irssi ? | 21:26 |
| jskelington | ...damned xorg problems | 21:26 |
| wxl | ^X i think jskelington | 21:26 |
| jskelington | ah | 21:26 |
| holstein | jskelington: alt + the # | 21:26 |
| jskelington | well done | 21:26 |
| wxl | i've tweaked my irssi so much i don't even freaking remember :D | 21:26 |
| holstein | or /win # | 21:27 |
| wxl | or /win next | 21:27 |
| jskelington | Okay, I'm gonna have to play with irssi more... | 21:27 |
| wxl | oh man you better take the week off then | 21:27 |
| MrChrisDruif | Btw "<jskelington> happens with both, unfortunately. I'm wondering if there is something going n with my keyboard, as this is a fresh install, but I don't know how I could check that" | 21:27 |
| wxl | ^^ use a different keyboard? ;) | 21:27 |
| jskelington | laptop | 21:27 |
| wxl | oh heh | 21:28 |
| jskelington | :) | 21:28 |
| jskelington | is there any way to read the output from the keyboard? | 21:28 |
| MrChrisDruif | You don't need to /msg me that. It's more useful to say it in channel, that way other can benefit from that info | 21:28 |
| jskelington | someone showed me how to do it with my monitor once (trying to install a touchscreen) | 21:28 |
| jskelington | MrChrisDruif: yea... I was trying to figure out this irssi | 21:28 |
| MrChrisDruif | irssi? Ghe ^_^ | 21:29 |
| MrChrisDruif | Good luck with that | 21:29 |
| wxl | so you could load up the virtual keyboard | 21:29 |
| * MrChrisDruif uses xchat | 21:29 | |
| jskelington | I could basically open a device into a document it, concatonate it, and see output as it happened | 21:29 |
| wxl | wait, is there a virtual keyboard? | 21:29 |
| jskelington | not sure... i pried th prt scrn key off, and it's still doing it | 21:30 |
| jskelington | I hope it's not a bad cable or board :( | 21:30 |
| pcroque | jskelington: I think the command-line program xev will show you what your keyboard is outputting. | 21:30 |
| jskelington | I'm a couple months from a new computer | 21:30 |
| jskelington | pcroque: I'll checkthat | 21:31 |
| MrChrisDruif | jskelington; buying or getting a new puter? | 21:31 |
| wxl | xvkbd is a virtual keyboard; you could install it, disable your keyboard, and see what happens | 21:31 |
| jskelington | I wish I could just disable my printscreen key | 21:32 |
| jskelington | pcroque: it seems I can't run that in tty sessions | 21:32 |
| jskelington | the moment I open up xorg it starts going nuts | 21:33 |
| MrChrisDruif | pcroque; apt-cache search xev doesn't find anything | 21:33 |
| wxl | you should ssh to the machine | 21:33 |
| wxl | disable the keyboard | 21:33 |
| wxl | there you go | 21:33 |
| Unit193 | You could just unplug the keyboard and see if it still does it... | 21:33 |
| wxl | Unit193: laptop | 21:33 |
| Unit193 | That'd be harder then, I missed that part | 21:34 |
| jskelington | the nipple under the key is not stuck | 21:34 |
| pcroque | MrChrisDruif: I think xev is part of some other package....but as jskelington mentioned, it needs X to work, so it's not going to help him. | 21:34 |
| jskelington | i had this problem with regular ubuntu, which is why I reinstalled | 21:35 |
| jskelington | with minimal ubuntu and LXDE over it | 21:35 |
| jskelington | is there a way to disable a single key? | 21:35 |
| wxl | ok | 21:35 |
| wxl | so do you have another machine to ssh into it? cuz i can tell you how to disable your keyboard | 21:36 |
| jskelington | I found something | 21:37 |
| jskelington | I may be able to disable the key by the keycode | 21:37 |
| wxl | well if you want to ssh in, here's how to disable/enable: http://wpkg.org/Disable_/_enable_keyboard_and_mouse_in_Linux | 21:38 |
| wxl | jskelington: you found xmodmap? | 21:39 |
| jskelington | wxl: yes, unfortunatelyit also uses xorg, fortunately, I found the code online | 21:40 |
| wxl | well xmodmap will run on the commandline | 21:42 |
| jskelington | i tried, it said it can't open display '' | 21:42 |
| wxl | try "export DISPLAY=:0" | 21:43 |
| jskelington | executed without returning | 21:43 |
| wxl | well now go back to your gui and see how it works | 21:44 |
| jskelington | frozen, but i as able to specify display with xmodmap -display=0 and it's printing stuff... weird tha I have to specify that, no? | 21:45 |
| jskelington | f I suk | 21:49 |
| === puchatke is now known as szczur | ||
| dude | hi | 22:28 |
| === dude is now known as Guest34128 | ||
| Guest34128 | anyone can help me with a little problem with the mouse? or say me where are docs about it? | 22:29 |
| phillw | Guest34128: ask away, if some one can help - they will :) | 22:29 |
| MrChrisDruif | Guest34128; what do you wanna know about it? | 22:29 |
| MrChrisDruif | !ask | 22:29 |
| ubottu | Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 22:29 |
| MrChrisDruif | !mouse | 22:29 |
| ubottu | Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto | 22:29 |
| MrChrisDruif | !help | 22:30 |
| MrChrisDruif | O_O that DOESN't call the ops does it? O_O | 22:30 |
| MrChrisDruif | phillw; ^ | 22:30 |
| Guest34128 | Thx, my old notebook (this) is running lubuntu 11.10. If i plug a mouse when this pc is on, mouse works, but if the mouse is plugged before start does not work (sorry my english sucks) | 22:31 |
| Unit193 | MrChrisDruif: You'd know if it did | 22:32 |
| MrChrisDruif | Prolly Unit193 | 22:32 |
| phillw | MrChrisDruif: nope :) | 22:32 |
| Unit193 | Pluging in a mouse when before it's on, does the trackpad react still? | 22:33 |
| Guest34128 | mmm, touchpad works ever | 22:34 |
| Guest34128 | i am using it now | 22:34 |
| Unit193 | I'd check BIOS settings | 22:35 |
| Guest34128 | if i unplug mouse now, and plug again, mouse begin works | 22:35 |
| Guest34128 | i did, but and old notebook has not setting about it | 22:35 |
| Guest34128 | and=an sorry | 22:35 |
| Unit193 | Can you give us the model number and brand? | 22:36 |
| Guest34128 | Acer Aspirte 1310 | 22:36 |
| Guest34128 | aspire | 22:36 |
| Guest34128 | everythings work fine | 22:37 |
| MrChrisDruif | http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11166959&postcount=8 | 22:38 |
| MrChrisDruif | Guest34128; http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11166959&postcount=8 <= maybe this could work for you? | 22:38 |
| Guest34128 | Thx guys, reading :) | 22:39 |
| Unit193 | Seems a couple problems with that one | 22:41 |
| Guest34128 | well, link of the author of post is broke. Need reboot for look the bios again but i think i have not that option, and the bios is updated. BRB | 22:42 |
| philipballew | Does anyone have any ofline Lubuntu documentation or a good way to make spme? | 22:47 |
| philipballew | *some | 22:47 |
| phillw | philipballew: I know there had been some discussion on the docs area as to how to 'export' wiki pages in a readable format. | 22:49 |
| guest9292929292 | nothing to do, my netbook bios is as simple as homer simpson brains | 22:51 |
| philipballew | philw yeah, Im making a Lubuntu immage to send to missionaries in aferica and I am thinking that maybe they might not always have internet | 22:51 |
| philipballew | they let me play with ubuntu at work this month! | 22:51 |
| philipballew | phillw, whats the rule with copying the lubuntu/ubuntu documentation? is that CC? | 22:52 |
| phillw | philipballew: good question ... there were some changes made to copyright. | 22:53 |
| phillw | philipballew: http://popey.com/blog/2011/03/08/ubuntu-wiki-relicensing-request-for-comments/ | 22:54 |
| phillw | so it now CC by SA | 22:56 |
| philipballew | Maybe I can just copy and paste some of this stuff onto a fancy looking doccument or something | 22:59 |
| kaspi | hey guys | 23:01 |
| phillw | philipballew: under http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ yes you are free. | 23:01 |
| philipballew | thank you phillw. If you ever hear anything in the next few weeks you have my email or find me in here. your pretty awesome | 23:01 |
| kaspi | how to switch chats in irssi? | 23:02 |
| kaspi | :) | 23:02 |
| phillw | kaspi: I'm just getting someone who uses it, please be patient :) | 23:05 |
| philipballew | Do you know who made the screencasts ? | 23:06 |
| philipballew | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation#Screencasts | 23:06 |
| philipballew | I could just download them and put them on a file on the desktop if thats okay maybe | 23:07 |
| Unit193 | /win # | 23:07 |
| Unit193 | http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi | 23:09 |
| guest92929292 | well, i found a solution for the mouse problem, plug it in a pcmcia usb card | 23:09 |
| phillw | philipballew: that would be the rather wonderful Lezek Lesner | 23:10 |
| Unit193 | guest92929292: Heh, that's weird! | 23:11 |
| AlanBell | kaspi: escape then left or right | 23:11 |
| AlanBell | kaspi: or /window 3 or whatever | 23:11 |
| Unit193 | Alt works too | 23:12 |
| guest92929292 | yes unit193, but seems a bios problem as u said and nothing to configure in this old bios | 23:12 |
| Unit193 | You could check their site for an update for the BIOS | 23:13 |
| guest92929292 | done, no more update availables :( what no problem, mouse is working now with the pcmcia card | 23:14 |
| guest92929292 | what = but | 23:14 |
| guest92929292 | only the cord around the notebook xD | 23:15 |
| Unit193 | Yeah, works and that's what counts | 23:15 |
| kaspi | AlanBell: nice :) thanks | 23:19 |
| labim | hello, I am looking for a way of installing barebone lubuntu version using the mini.iso CD. But I can only find Ubuntu 11.10 mini.iso, and only instructions for lubuntu 11.04. I just want to install lubuntu with the LXDE desktop and then choose which apps I install. | 23:44 |
| avelldiroll | labim: there is only one mini.iso, and it let's you choose to install any profile available via tasksel | 23:50 |
| avelldiroll | including lubuntu | 23:50 |
| avelldiroll | you just hev to check the "lxde desktop" box at the end of the installing process via the mini.iso | 23:51 |
| avelldiroll | *have | 23:51 |
| avelldiroll | you mai also install a minimal install and do a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop" afterward | 23:52 |
| avelldiroll | *may | 23:53 |
| MrChrisDruif | labim; use said mini-ISO and install lubuntu-core | 23:54 |
| MrChrisDruif | labim; the mini-ISO installs a command-line interface only, afterwards you can install anything you'd like, e.g. lubuntu-core or lubuntu-desktop, or even something like kubuntu-desktop | 23:56 |
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