[00:00] <freeroute> that would seriously make the life a lot less hellish
[00:00] <phillw> freeroute: what size is the USB stick?
[00:00] <freeroute> phillw: 16gb
[00:00] <phillw> freeroute: how much of that can you spare for the system?
[00:02] <freeroute> phillw: you mean installing lubuntu on my USB stick? It's an option, but as of now I can choose between a few distro's which I've loaded using YUMI
[00:02] <phillw> what are you using for the Live system's persistance?
[00:02] <freeroute> phillw: oh YUMI doesn't do persistence (yet) :(
[00:03] <phillw> freeroute: now you have lost me. On what system are using live lubuntu?
[00:04] <freeroute> phillw: I'm using it basically like a liveCD, but I've booted it from a USBstick
[00:04] <freeroute> and I've loaded the image onto the stick using YUMI
[00:05] <phillw> I've never heard of YUMI, sorry. Is that from pendrivelinux people?
[00:07] <freeroute> phillw: yup, SARDU is another one, and it does handle persistence iirc
[00:08] <freeroute> also, I think I discovered that htop (or top) doesn't have the function like the Lubuntu Task Manager to "Show memory used by cache as free"
[00:08] <phillw> freeroute: I've never set a pen drive up as multi-boot. The guys at pendrivelinux are pretty darn good. I'm sure if you post a question there they will answer. I can get instructions as to how to copy the existing casper onto a hard drive, make a larger one and then copy it back. But that is about it.
[00:10] <freeroute> phillw: cool, I think SARDU wanted to support that somewhere in the future (long time since I tried to use it), so I might also look there first.
[00:10] <phillw> freeroute: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7203866&postcount=2
[00:11] <freeroute> phillw: oooh yeah I remember reading this one time
[00:12] <freeroute> thanks for bringing this up, I remember thinking that I was too noob to pull something off because at that time I was a windows-only user hehe
[00:12] <phillw> well, you may like to read the entire thread, as it also says about copying to hard-drive as a backup.
[00:13] <freeroute> and in windows at that time there was no option to make the casper-rw file larger
[00:13] <phillw> yvw
[05:02] <gordon1234> Hi, just downgrades from Ubuntu 11.10 to lubuntu 11.10 ... trying to use Sylpheed instead of Thurderbird ... can it use Google Contact and Google Calendar?
[12:30] <Silverlion> hey phillw
[12:30] <phillw> hi Silverlion
[12:30] <Silverlion> may i have your attention?
[12:30] <phillw> sure
[13:02] <giuseppe60> hello
[13:16] <giuseppe60> it is true that to improve navigation on the Internet, you must disable IPV 6?
[13:16] <head_victim> Not in all cases.
[13:18] <giuseppe60> I recently installed Lubuntu on a PC Pentium 4 CPU, 1500 Mgh, 1GB RAM
[13:20] <giuseppe60> I installed chromium, korqueror, operates, but the openings of the web pages are not fast
[13:21] <head_victim> It could be related to ipv6 but unless you know what you're doing troubleshooting that can be difficult.
[13:21] <head_victim> I'd also be looking at running the command "top" in a terminal when you're opening these pages to see if it's maxing out your hardware. Some pages have lots of extra stuff on it which can chug down slower CPUs.
[13:23] <giuseppe60> can to try?
[13:24] <giuseppe60> Ubuntu was a little heavy for my pc
[13:24] <head_victim> I can imagine it would be a little heavy. Those specs are very basic.
[13:31] <giuseppe60> head_victim,  Then you say you better leave it like?
[13:32] <head_victim> giuseppe60: I guess I'm saying I personally don't know enough to assist troubleshooting via IRC. You might have some luck with google.
[13:35] <giuseppe60> head_victim,   forget it: Thanks, I'm not lucky in google
[13:36] <head_victim> giuseppe60: ah well hopefully someone who knows ipv6 better will be along
[13:36] <head_victim> Personally I'd still be checking out the command "top" to make sure it's nto a hardware bottleneck as well thouh
[13:36] <head_victim> !top
[13:43] <giuseppe60> head_victim,       Since you are an expert deduce something?                                                                http://paste.ubuntu.com/831365/
[13:55] <phillw> giuseppe60: thanks, got that one. Now can you launch Chromium and open up a few pages, then report the output of top so we can see the difference.
[14:02] <giuseppe60> phillw,    chromium     http://paste.ubuntu.com/831391/
[14:03] <phillw> giuseppe60: okay, you're approaching your maximum in built RAM now. If you open more pages, launch other programmes you will start using swap area which is a lot slower.
[14:04] <phillw> the CPU usage (how hard the computer is working) is still quite good. I'd recommend saving up & treating the machine to an extra 1GB of RAM. It's worth it as the CPU can handle the workload.
[14:06] <giuseppe60> phillw,   I then add 1 gb of ram?
[14:08] <phillw> giuseppe60:  you'd have to check what is already installed. If it 2 X 512 MB RAM - then you will need 2 X 1 GB RAM. If you're lucky, as I was - it will have 1 X 1GB RAM installed and a spare slot for another one.
[14:10] <Sentynel> 1GB of RAM ought to be plenty, really; I have a system with 512MB that runs lubuntu fine
[14:10] <Sentynel> I do see that you have a whole bunch of KDE processes running
[14:10] <Sentynel> do you actually use KDE software? if not, get rid of them
[14:12] <phillw> Sentynel: good point :)
[14:12] <giuseppe60> the problem is that I only open  x-chat  chromium
[14:13] <phillw> giuseppe60: did you install lubuntu onto of kubuntu?
[14:13] <giuseppe60> lubuntu
[14:13] <phillw> puzzled as to why you have kubuntu stuff running.
[14:13] <giuseppe60> I'm told that kubuntu was heavy
[14:15] <giuseppe60> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/11.10/release/
[14:16] <phillw> giuseppe60: you must have installed some kde programmes then.
[14:17] <giuseppe60> I installed and LibreOffice korqueror
[14:17] <phillw> giuseppe60: you can get rid of them and get back to pure lubuntu by following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/UpgradeToLubuntu (The removing section).
[14:17] <Sentynel> konqueror would be the one, yes
[14:18] <phillw> I think konqueror has invited half of kde in with it!
[14:19] <phillw> we see it also when people add certain Gnome programmes - they have many dependencies that are added, then wonder why everything has gone slow!
[14:19] <giuseppe60> Sentynel,   korqueror    http://paste.ubuntu.com/831365/
[14:20] <giuseppe60> phillw,   true
[14:21] <phillw> giuseppe60: you can see a lot of tasks running that begin with k :/
[14:21] <giuseppe60> phillw,     because I tried different browsers: midori, epiphany, opera, chromium, and it seemed faster korqueror
[14:23] <phillw> ahh, for lubuntu the two to choose from would be midori or Chromium that I of hear people running. Knonqueror has certainly brought a lot of extra stuff with it that eating your precious RAM.
[14:23] <Sentynel> KDE runs a whole pile of support processes and the like
[14:23] <Sentynel> which is reasonably efficient for a pure KDE system, but kinda wasteful for a single piece of software
[14:24] <giuseppe60> phillw,  midori no translator web pages
[14:25] <giuseppe60> I also tried safari
[14:25] <phillw> giuseppe60: Then you'll have to get used to Chromium.
[14:25] <giuseppe60> and already
[14:26] <phillw> If you have been installing all sorts of stuff to try them out - It will be much easier to just re-install lubuntu :)
[14:27] <giuseppe60> it takes 2 hours of installation of Lubuntu
[14:27] <giuseppe60> wait for the 12.04
[14:27] <giuseppe60> wait for the 12.04
[14:28] <giuseppe60> if you take away korqueror, I will remove kde ???
[14:29] <phillw> giuseppe60: no, you'd need to run the 'pure lxde' command in the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/UpgradeToLubuntu area to remove all the extras that came with it.
[14:30] <Sentynel> http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde the 'remove kubuntu' command on this page should do it
[14:31] <Sentynel> you'll probably get a pile of "not installed, so not removed" messages 'cos konq won't have pulled in the entire kubuntu set, but it should get rid of the rest
[14:32] <phillw> giuseppe60: just make sure you use the correct version number. you need the page that says 11.10 :)
[14:35] <giuseppe60> wait for April with the new system, then format
[14:37] <giuseppe60> for the string to put my case would be
[14:37] <giuseppe60> sudo apt-get install desktop-Lubuntu
[15:11] <faLUCE> hi. how can I add a "custom application launcher" (similar to the ubuntu one) to the lxde panel ?
[15:11] <valdur55> Right click on panel -> Add/remove panel items -> Add -> Launcher
[15:11] <holstein> faLUCE: you can just pick one, and install it... and configure to your needs
[15:12] <holstein> i like how xubuntu uses a panel to look like a dock
[15:12] <valdur55> Does lubuntu support two panels?
[15:12] <giuseppe60> phillw,   Sentynel     http://paste.ubuntu.com/831452/
[15:13] <holstein> valdur55: its just openbox with panels added... just add as many as you like
[15:13] <Sentynel> giuseppe60: what about it?
[15:13] <faLUCE> holstein: can you suggest me one to install ?
[15:14] <faLUCE> valdur55: it doesn't work for custom applications
[15:14] <holstein> faLUCE: sure.. i *really* like the idea of just using a panel, since you dont have to add more applications
[15:14] <holstein> avant is one lots of folks use... wbar is a simple one that i like to set up for folks sometimes
[15:14] <giuseppe60> Sentynel,   I deleted konquerorm and KDE libraries
[15:14] <Sentynel> giuseppe60: you've still got kde processes running, so apparently you didn't
[15:15] <holstein> faLUCE: they are all so different, its really up to you what works for you and what you are looking for
[15:15] <Sentynel> giuseppe60: although, you might need to reboot, if they were already running and you haven't done that
[15:16] <faLUCE> no, no, no... I'm searching for a SIMPLE application launcher that can be added to the lxde panel.
[15:16] <faLUCE> I don't want extra stuff. I only want to have a launcher on the lxde panel
[15:17] <giuseppe60> Sentynel,   I have not restarted your PC
[15:17] <valdur55> faLUCE, search custom launcher maybe :)
[15:17] <Sentynel> giuseppe60: well, restart and then check if there's any processes beginning with k listed in top
[15:17] <valdur55> faLUCE, in add list
[15:18] <faLUCE> valdur55: it allows me to choose only an application listed in the menu
[15:18] <holstein> faLUCE: right... you can set up a row of launchers in a panel you create
[15:18] <valdur55> faLUCE, wait.. i will boot to lxde :)
[15:19] <faLUCE> valdur55: thanks. holstein, you did not understand my question
[15:20] <holstein> faLUCE: i have seen the unity launcher though, and if i make a new panel, and line up launchers in it, that'll look and feel a lot like that "dock"
[15:21] <holstein> faLUCE: i think you are still looking for a "unity launcher" button... and there is not one... you'll need to either install a dock-type app, or create one with a panel
[15:22] <faLUCE> holstein: read better what I asked...
[15:23] <holstein> faLUCE: nah, i'll just wait for you to elaborate :) but thanks for the command
[15:23] <faLUCE> holstein: there's already an application launcher. but it doesn't allow to launch programs that are not listed in the menu.
[15:24] <holstein> faLUCE: you can create a custom one...
[15:25] <faLUCE> holstein: I don't want to create a new launcher.
[15:25] <holstein> faLUCE: ?... in order to have a lanucher for something that doesnt have one... youd need to create one
[15:25] <faLUCE> holstein: I want to configure, not to create
[15:26] <faLUCE> holstein: that's not a good solution.
[15:26] <faLUCE> it's nonsense.
[15:26] <holstein> faLUCE: OK.. configure a custom one
[15:26] <holstein> faLUCE: im not following... you seem quite upset by this, and i think im misunderstanding you
[15:26] <valdur55> Damn... i can't do that with lxde
[15:27] <faLUCE> holstein: in fact you did not understand my question. valdur55 understood it
[15:27] <valdur55> but... i did it somehow :) lol
[15:27] <holstein> OK... enjoy guys, and good luck  :)
[15:27] <faLUCE> valdur55: in which way?
[15:27] <faLUCE> which file did you change?
[15:28] <valdur55> i maked new desktop file and puted it to one folder
[15:29] <Sentynel> surely the easiest way of doing this is just to create a .desktop file for the program in question, thus adding it to the applications available from the launcher
[15:29] <Sentynel> http://developer.gnome.org/integration-guide/stable/desktop-files.html.en
[15:30] <holstein> yeah, thats what i was meaning by "create"
[15:30] <faLUCE> holstein: "create" can mean all and nothing
[15:30] <valdur55> But.. i wanted to make it with GUI :)
[15:31] <valdur55> http://algorithmicmadness.blogspot.com/2011/12/lubuntu-custom-application-launcher.html :P
[15:32] <Sentynel> I'm not aware of there being an option to do this in lxde. desktop files aren't very complicated; kde has a gui tool to create one but it's basically just a list of the fields in the file
[15:32] <faLUCE> valdur55: Sentynel, thanks.
[15:33] <valdur55> Yea :) But some pepole don't know desktop file trick
[15:49] <giuseppe60> hello
[15:51] <giuseppe60> Sentynel,   still there?              http://paste.ubuntu.com/831509/
[15:52] <Sentynel> you still seem to have kde stuff running
[15:53] <giuseppe60> ok
[15:56] <phillw> Sentynel: lubuntu does use some kde stuff.
[15:57] <giuseppe60> I removed everything about KDE package manager
[15:58] <giuseppe60> now look Lubuntu 12.04     in April
[15:58] <phillw> kworker/0:0 , kthreadd  , ksoftirqd/0 , ksoftirqd/1 , khelper  are all active on mine - but I'm running a non-standard install.
[15:59] <Sentynel> yeah I don't have a pure lubuntu machine handy to check
[15:59] <Sentynel> they might not actually be kde components, just confusingly named
[15:59] <giuseppe60> phillw,   uses too lubutnu
[16:00] <phillw> Sentynel: As it happens, I'm actually installing a pure lubuntu 11.10 right now - although with all the updates and my slow b/band speed the update is taking a while!
[16:01] <giuseppe60> I also did cleaning of orphaned libraries
[16:03] <Sentynel> phillw: the pids of the k* in that top list are too low for them to be kde components; must be kernel stuff
[16:03] <Sentynel> well, not kernel, but base system
[16:03] <phillw> all those processes listed above with the exception of khelper are running on the virgin machine.
[16:16] <giuseppe60> Sentynel,    I read "To increase performance by zRam", what do you think?
[16:17] <Sentynel> no idea
[16:18] <giuseppe60> I give up
[16:19] <giuseppe60> thanks
[16:22] <faLUCE> valdur55: Sentynelwhere should I place the custom .desktop file ?
[16:22] <valdur55> http://algorithmicmadness.blogspot.com/2011/12/lubuntu-custom-application-launcher.html :P
[16:23] <faLUCE> valdur55: thanks ;-)
[16:26] <phillw> faLUCE: a really handy place to head for help on such things is the FAQ section of the wiki. http://tinyurl.com/LubuntuFAQ
[16:26] <EvilResistance> hey phillw, whats the package name of the runtime environment for LXDE?  i like trying various DEs, which explains why i have GNOME and KDE on the same machine xD
[16:27] <phillw> AFAIK, it is LXDE - But will be changing to LightDM
[16:28] <EvilResistance> i'm still on 11.04, and plan to clean-install when 12.04 comes out...
[16:28] <EvilResistance> upgraded installations suck :P
[16:28] <phillw> EvilResistance: I also prefer to fresh install. having a /home partition makes sense :P
[16:29] <EvilResistance> phillw, having a clone of the old hard drive makes more sense... :P
[16:29]  * EvilResistance routinely clones his hard drive as a backup method
[16:30] <phillw> EvilResistance: this laptop has 2 X 500GB drives - I keep a clone and a backup on an external 500GB in case my laptop got stolen!
[16:30] <EvilResistance> lol
[16:30] <EvilResistance> this system's a 3 year old laptop, but can still run KDE effectively *shrugs*
[16:30] <EvilResistance> i fully expect it to not be able to run KDE in 12.04 though...
[16:30] <phillw> If I had decent b/band speed I'd back upto the server.
[16:30] <EvilResistance> as i said its a 3 year old laptop
[16:33] <Sentynel> kde's system requirements haven't really increased in the last year
[16:34] <phillw> Sentynel: they run a tight ship on that team :)
[16:34] <Sentynel> my netbook runs kde tolerably, even, it's just a little laggy
[16:34] <EvilResistance> hell, 95% of what I do is done via the command line anyways :P
[16:35] <phillw> EvilResistance: I draw the line at mysql stuff, except for dumping and importing dbases :)
[16:35] <EvilResistance> :P
[16:35] <EvilResistance> i draw the line at "Anything short of using VirtualBox"
[16:36] <Sentynel> (note: I'm an Amarok dev, so I might be a slightly biased source here =)
[16:36] <phillw> EvilResistance: I'm just learning KVM
[16:36] <phillw> but, we digress... I'll have to tell myself off for not using #lubuntu-offtopic (it's not logged :P)
[17:41] <downbeam> my lubuntu wont recognize my cd-r drive
[17:42] <downbeam> my lubuntu wont recognize my cd-r drive
[17:43] <downbeam> hello
[17:43] <downbeam> is anyone there?
[17:43] <downbeam> HELP
[17:43] <downbeam> HELP
[17:43] <downbeam> HELP
[17:46] <wxl> downbeam: i'm pretty sure that repeating yourself isn't going to help you any
[17:46] <wxl> that being said, are you sure it works? have you checked with any other operating system?
[17:46] <downbeam> yes i have a burner
[17:46] <wxl> that's not what i asked
[17:46] <wxl> but i have to go
[17:46] <wxl> be back when i can
[17:46] <downbeam> but it lubuntu wont recognize it
[17:48] <downbeam> bkm
[17:48] <downbeam> can you help
[17:48] <downbeam> ?
[17:50] <bkm> not likely
[17:50] <wxl> downbeam: last chance here-- have you made sure, with any other operating system, that it does indeed function correctly?
[17:51] <downbeam> yes
[17:51] <bkm> the only hope is if you have access to multiple machines. if the cd works nowhere, suspect the cd
[17:51] <wxl> ok so that's step one
[17:51] <wxl> so how do you know that the drive isn't recognized?
[17:52] <downbeam> when i try to burn a cd the drive doesnt come up as an option
[17:52] <wxl> what are you using to burn?
[17:54] <downbeam> my laptop
[17:54] <downbeam> xfburn
[17:54] <wxl> open up disk utility
[17:55] <wxl> click on the cd drive
[17:55] <wxl> click unmount
[17:55] <wxl> try again
[17:55] <wxl> if the cd drive doesn't show up there then there is a problem
[17:55] <downbeam> wont that ultimately fuck me???
[17:56] <wxl> computers usually aren't equipped for that
[17:56] <downbeam> i'm trying disk utility but it wont run
[17:57] <downbeam> nvm
[17:57] <downbeam> IT'S smart status says unsupported
[18:00] <downbeam> should i format it????
[18:01] <downbeam> it won't format are you there?
[18:02] <downbeam> it won't format are you there?
[18:02] <downbeam> it won't format are you there?
[18:02] <downbeam> it says it's not partitioned
[18:04] <downbeam> wx1 your a dick
[18:09] <wxl> sheesh sorry i have a job ;/
[18:09] <wxl> whatever
[18:11] <Tm_T> oh, right
[19:44] <xh> hi! excuse me, but how the .. can i disable auto-maximize in lubuntu lxde? i find it inhuman..
[19:55] <wxl> xh: what version are you on?
[21:00] <pangolin> hello ubot5 :)
[21:00] <pangolin> err
[21:00] <pangolin> ubottu:
[21:02] <pangolin> !test
[21:03] <Unit193> bug 889414
[21:03] <wxl> oh good that's not annoying
[21:06] <Unit193> wxl: All fixed now
[21:21] <jskelington> hey folks
[21:21] <jskelington> I am having a problem with my ubuntu installations. They are all automatically taking screenshots
[21:22] <MrChrisDruif> jskelington; what? How can that be and is it normal Ubuntu or Lubuntu (LXDE)?
[21:23] <rossball> jskelington: have you checked that the PrtSc button is not 'sticky'?
[21:23] <MrChrisDruif> That would be my next question indeed ^_^
[21:24] <MrChrisDruif> Or is it periodically taking screenshots?
[21:24] <jskelington> not physically...
[21:24] <MrChrisDruif> Like every hour, every five minutes..?
[21:24] <jskelington> nope... constantly
[21:25] <MrChrisDruif> Most likely it seems to be a stuck key <_<"
[21:25] <Unit193> We can tell you that's not the normal outcome
[21:25] <jskelington> it's not physcially stuck.. maybe I should take it off... if I am in xorg it stalls out my system it takes the scrots so rapidly
[21:26] <jskelington> and how do I change windows in irssi ?
[21:26] <jskelington> ...damned xorg problems
[21:26] <wxl> ^X i think jskelington
[21:26] <jskelington> ah
[21:26] <holstein> jskelington: alt + the #
[21:26] <jskelington> well done
[21:26] <wxl> i've tweaked my irssi so much i don't even freaking remember :D
[21:27] <holstein> or /win #
[21:27] <wxl> or /win next
[21:27] <jskelington> Okay, I'm gonna have to play with irssi more...
[21:27] <wxl> oh man you better take the week off then
[21:27] <MrChrisDruif> Btw "<jskelington> happens with both, unfortunately. I'm wondering if there is something going n with my keyboard, as this is a fresh install, but I don't know how I could check that"
[21:27] <wxl> ^^ use a different keyboard? ;)
[21:27] <jskelington> laptop
[21:28] <wxl> oh heh
[21:28] <jskelington> :)
[21:28] <jskelington> is there any way to read the output from the keyboard?
[21:28] <MrChrisDruif> You don't need to /msg me that. It's more useful to say it in channel, that way other can benefit from that info
[21:28] <jskelington> someone showed me how to do it with my monitor once (trying to install a touchscreen)
[21:28] <jskelington> MrChrisDruif: yea... I was trying to figure out this irssi
[21:29] <MrChrisDruif> irssi? Ghe ^_^
[21:29] <MrChrisDruif> Good luck with that
[21:29] <wxl> so you could load up the virtual keyboard
[21:29]  * MrChrisDruif uses xchat
[21:29] <jskelington> I could basically open a device into a document it, concatonate it, and see output as it happened
[21:29] <wxl> wait, is there a virtual keyboard?
[21:30] <jskelington> not sure... i pried th prt scrn key off, and it's still doing it
[21:30] <jskelington> I hope it's not a bad cable or board :(
[21:30] <pcroque> jskelington: I think the command-line program xev will show you what your keyboard is outputting.
[21:30] <jskelington> I'm a couple months from a new computer
[21:31] <jskelington> pcroque: I'll checkthat
[21:31] <MrChrisDruif> jskelington; buying or getting a new puter?
[21:31] <wxl> xvkbd is a virtual keyboard; you could install it, disable your keyboard, and see what happens
[21:32] <jskelington> I wish I could just disable my printscreen key
[21:32] <jskelington> pcroque: it seems I can't run that in tty sessions
[21:33] <jskelington> the moment I open up xorg it starts going nuts
[21:33] <MrChrisDruif> pcroque; apt-cache search xev doesn't find anything
[21:33] <wxl> you should ssh to the machine
[21:33] <wxl> disable the keyboard
[21:33] <wxl> there you go
[21:33] <Unit193> You could just unplug the keyboard and see if it still does it...
[21:33] <wxl> Unit193: laptop
[21:34] <Unit193> That'd be harder then, I missed that part
[21:34] <jskelington> the nipple under the key is not stuck
[21:34] <pcroque> MrChrisDruif: I think xev is part of some other package....but as jskelington mentioned, it needs X to work, so it's not going to help him.
[21:35] <jskelington> i had this problem with regular ubuntu, which is why I reinstalled
[21:35] <jskelington> with minimal ubuntu and LXDE over it
[21:35] <jskelington> is there a way to disable a single key?
[21:35] <wxl> ok
[21:36] <wxl> so do you have another machine to ssh into it? cuz i can tell you how to disable your keyboard
[21:37] <jskelington> I found something
[21:37] <jskelington> I may be able to disable the key by the keycode
[21:38] <wxl> well if you want to ssh in, here's how to disable/enable: http://wpkg.org/Disable_/_enable_keyboard_and_mouse_in_Linux
[21:39] <wxl> jskelington: you found xmodmap?
[21:40] <jskelington> wxl: yes, unfortunatelyit also uses xorg, fortunately, I found the code online
[21:42] <wxl> well xmodmap will run on the commandline
[21:42] <jskelington> i tried, it said it can't open display ''
[21:43] <wxl> try "export DISPLAY=:0"
[21:43] <jskelington> executed without returning
[21:44] <wxl> well now go back to your gui and see how it works
[21:45] <jskelington> frozen, but i as able to specify display with xmodmap -display=0 and it's printing stuff... weird tha I have to specify that, no?
[21:49] <jskelington> f I suk
[22:28] <dude> hi
[22:29] <Guest34128> anyone can help me with a little problem with the mouse? or say me where are docs about it?
[22:29] <phillw> Guest34128: ask away, if some one can help - they will :)
[22:29] <MrChrisDruif> Guest34128; what do you wanna know about it?
[22:29] <MrChrisDruif> !ask
[22:29] <MrChrisDruif> !mouse
[22:30] <MrChrisDruif> !help
[22:30] <MrChrisDruif> O_O that DOESN't call the ops does it? O_O
[22:30] <MrChrisDruif> phillw; ^
[22:31] <Guest34128> Thx, my old notebook (this) is running lubuntu 11.10. If i plug a mouse when this pc is on, mouse works, but if the mouse is plugged before start does not work (sorry my english sucks)
[22:32] <Unit193> MrChrisDruif: You'd know if it did
[22:32] <MrChrisDruif> Prolly Unit193
[22:32] <phillw> MrChrisDruif: nope :)
[22:33] <Unit193> Pluging in a mouse when before it's on, does the trackpad react still?
[22:34] <Guest34128> mmm, touchpad works ever
[22:34] <Guest34128> i am using it now
[22:35] <Unit193> I'd check BIOS settings
[22:35] <Guest34128> if i unplug mouse now, and plug again, mouse begin works
[22:35] <Guest34128> i did, but and old notebook has not setting about it
[22:35] <Guest34128> and=an sorry
[22:36] <Unit193> Can you give us the model number and brand?
[22:36] <Guest34128> Acer Aspirte 1310
[22:36] <Guest34128> aspire
[22:37] <Guest34128> everythings work fine
[22:38] <MrChrisDruif> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11166959&postcount=8
[22:38] <MrChrisDruif> Guest34128; http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11166959&postcount=8 <= maybe this could work for you?
[22:39] <Guest34128> Thx guys, reading :)
[22:41] <Unit193> Seems a couple problems with that one
[22:42] <Guest34128> well, link of the author of post is broke. Need reboot for look the bios again but i think i have not that option, and the bios is updated. BRB
[22:47] <philipballew> Does anyone have any ofline Lubuntu documentation or a good way to make spme?
[22:47] <philipballew> *some
[22:49] <phillw> philipballew: I know there had been some discussion on the docs area as to how to 'export' wiki pages in a readable format.
[22:51] <guest9292929292> nothing to do, my netbook bios is as simple as homer simpson brains
[22:51] <philipballew> philw yeah, Im making a Lubuntu immage to send to missionaries in aferica and I am thinking that maybe they might not always have internet
[22:51] <philipballew> they let me play with ubuntu at work this month!
[22:52] <philipballew> phillw, whats the rule with copying the lubuntu/ubuntu documentation? is that CC?
[22:53] <phillw> philipballew: good question ... there were some changes made to copyright.
[22:54] <phillw> philipballew: http://popey.com/blog/2011/03/08/ubuntu-wiki-relicensing-request-for-comments/
[22:56] <phillw> so it now CC by SA
[22:59] <philipballew> Maybe I can just copy and paste some of this stuff onto a fancy looking doccument or something
[23:01] <kaspi> hey guys
[23:01] <phillw> philipballew: under http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ yes you are free.
[23:01] <philipballew> thank you phillw. If you ever hear anything in the next few weeks you have my email or find me in here. your pretty awesome
[23:02] <kaspi> how to switch chats in irssi?
[23:02] <kaspi> :)
[23:05] <phillw> kaspi: I'm just getting someone who uses it, please be patient :)
[23:06] <philipballew> Do you know who made the screencasts ?
[23:06] <philipballew> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation#Screencasts
[23:07] <philipballew> I could just download them and put them on a file on the desktop if thats okay maybe
[23:07] <Unit193> /win #
[23:09] <Unit193> http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi
[23:09] <guest92929292> well, i found a solution for the mouse problem, plug it in a pcmcia usb card
[23:10] <phillw> philipballew: that would be the rather wonderful Lezek Lesner
[23:11] <Unit193> guest92929292: Heh, that's weird!
[23:11] <AlanBell> kaspi: escape then left or right
[23:11] <AlanBell> kaspi: or /window 3 or whatever
[23:12] <Unit193> Alt works too
[23:12] <guest92929292> yes unit193, but seems a bios problem as u said and nothing to configure in this old bios
[23:13] <Unit193> You could check their site for an update for the BIOS
[23:14] <guest92929292> done, no more update availables :( what no problem, mouse is working now with the pcmcia card
[23:14] <guest92929292> what = but
[23:15] <guest92929292> only the cord around the notebook xD
[23:15] <Unit193> Yeah, works and that's what counts
[23:19] <kaspi> AlanBell: nice :) thanks
[23:44] <labim> hello, I am looking for a way of installing barebone lubuntu version using the mini.iso CD. But I can only find Ubuntu 11.10 mini.iso, and only instructions for lubuntu 11.04. I just want to install lubuntu with the LXDE desktop and then choose which apps I install.
[23:50] <avelldiroll> labim: there is only one mini.iso, and it let's you choose to install any profile available via tasksel
[23:50] <avelldiroll> including lubuntu
[23:51] <avelldiroll> you just hev to check the "lxde desktop" box at the end of the installing process via the mini.iso
[23:51] <avelldiroll> *have
[23:52] <avelldiroll> you mai also install a minimal install and do a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop" afterward
[23:53] <avelldiroll> *may
[23:54] <MrChrisDruif> labim; use said mini-ISO and install lubuntu-core
[23:56] <MrChrisDruif> labim; the mini-ISO installs a command-line interface only, afterwards you can install anything you'd like, e.g. lubuntu-core or lubuntu-desktop, or even something like kubuntu-desktop