[00:08] <Bodsda> Hi, just upgraded to precise, dual monitors using nvidia gfx card, twin view works fine but if I try to use a seperate x screen for the second monitor, all I get is a white screen and a black X for a mouse cursor on that monitor - any ideas?
[00:10] <Bodsda> ah, might be https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/885989
[00:18] <Jordan_U> I'm using 64 bit precise with google chrome. Chrome keeps warning me that my flash plugin is out of date, and in Chrome this page: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/155/tn_15507.html tells me I'm using falsh plugin version 10.2.161.22. The same page in Firefox tells me I'm using 11.1.102.55. What is going on and how do I get chrome to use the latest plugin?
[00:28] <micahg> chrome ships its own flash, is chrome up to date?
[00:41] <Jordan_U> micahg: 16.0.912.63 is the version of Google chrome, which appears to not be the latest. Though it's odd that I have the same problem with Chromium and I thought I had the Chrome repository enabled to get updates.
[00:41] <micahg> hmm, idk
[00:41] <micahg> is the system version out of date?
[00:41] <jbicha> chromium does not ship its own flash though
[00:42] <micahg> nah, it might share a profile with chrome though idk
[00:42] <micahg> or at least share plugins
[00:42] <jbicha> yeah, I haven't run real Chrome in a long time on Ubuntu, & Chromium is unfortunately not really available for Windows
[01:05] <Jordan_U> micahg: I just installed 16.0.912.77 and I have the same problem, with the same reported version of Flash.
[01:09] <micahg> Jordan_U: does 'find ~/.config/chrom* -name *flash*.so' show any output?
[01:10] <Jordan_U> micahg: No.
[01:11] <micahg> no idea then
[01:11] <bjsnider> chrome://plugins/
[01:14] <Jordan_U> bjsnider: "Flash (2 files) - Version: 10.2 d161 Download Critical Security Update"
[01:15] <bjsnider> not what mine says
[01:15] <bjsnider> try manually reinstalling it or upgrading it
[01:15] <Jordan_U> I found it. I had a ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so which was the old verison.
[01:16] <Jordan_U> Found using "locate '*flash*.so'". I removed it and now Google Chrome and Chromium report the most recent version, and with no error.
[01:52] <WoC> to prevent the kernel from being updated, do i need to put a hold on any other packages besides; linux-firmware linux-headers-3.2.0-10 linux-headers-3.2.0-10-generic linux-image-3.2.0-10-generic linux-libc-dev linux-sound-base linux-source linux-source-3.2.0 linux-tools-3.2.0-10 linux-tools-common linuxinfo ?
[01:56] <WoC> !ask|ubottu
[03:20] <open> with unity plugin enabled, for the grid windows
[03:20] <open> how do I resize windows... the key pres doesn't quite work
[03:21] <open> the ctrl + alt + KP_5
[03:22] <open> i try it.. no effect
[03:59] <jbicha> open: do you have a separate number pad?
[04:00] <open> I'm trying them on both
[04:00] <open> the one one the right, the 'keypad one'
[04:00] <open> and the one above the qwerty keys
[04:00] <open> neither work -- and as for the keypad, I tried with both num lock on and off
[04:00] <open> I'm on ubuntu 12.04 alpha 1, by the way
[04:01] <open> running the thing on a virtual box (the image I downloaded from a weird looking website)
[04:01] <open> I should mention, most everything else works well
[04:01] <open> curiously, when I test it out
[04:01] <open> you know when it tells me to manually press the key-combination
[04:01] <open> and it'll pick that.. and set that?
[04:02] <open> that does get correctly recognized, as Ctrl + Alt + KP_whatever
[04:02] <open> but when I try it on a window, it doesn't work
[04:02] <open> am I correct in understanding that I'd just try that combination on whatever window? e.g., if I try it on this Terminal right now, it should just work?
[04:05] <open> hi poolie !
[04:17] <poolie> hi open
[06:25] <iceroot> someone else facing problems with firefox during the last days? firefox is not able to load websites, its loading forever (maybe with 1Kbit/s), chromium, is working fine. am i alone with that or is that a known bug for you?
[06:27] <codepal> PPA for Gimp 2.8 anyone?
[06:34] <iceroot> as it seems its not a browser problem at all           Tx excessive retries:116  Invalid misc:67595   Missed beacon:0
[06:38] <iceroot> but even with that i dont get why chromium is working much better then firefox
[06:43] <razorfish> Hi I can't get eclipse to start. Well, it starts but once I close the welcome screen it crashes. Haven't had this problem on any other os, but heres the paste http://p.mac-mini.org/307
[07:09] <yofel_> razorfish: seems like a crash of libwebkitgtk. Do you have a .crash file in /var/crash/ ?
[07:09] <razorfish> uh
[07:09] <razorfish> lemee check
[07:09] <razorfish> first off i think it was dumping files in ~ too
[07:09] <razorfish> yofel: _usr_lib_jvm_java-6-openjdk-amd64_jre_bin_java.1000.crash ??
[07:10] <razorfish> http://sprunge.us/ABfV
[07:11] <yofel> yeah, that one. now run 'ubuntu-bug /var/crash/_usr_lib_jvm_java-6-openjdk-amd64_jre_bin_java.1000.crash' to report it
[07:13] <razorfish> http://i.the-beach.co/di-K0JC.png
[07:13] <razorfish> hah
[07:13] <razorfish> crash on bug report
[07:14] <razorfish> I think I had this problem on 11.10 too, not sure
[07:14] <razorfish> the eclipse one
[07:14] <yofel> first time I see that message o.O
[07:15] <yofel> eclipse worked fine a few days ago here, I'll try when I get home
[07:15] <razorfish> I might just go back to arch or maybe debian if im feeling lazy
[07:15] <razorfish> I know that stuff worked on those distros
[07:15] <razorfish> lol
[07:16] <iceroot> razorfish: you know what "alpha" means?
[07:16] <razorfish> I know exactly what it means
[07:17] <Stanley00> Hi. I'm using pangolin, and the dash show only recent apps, docs and musics, and not the application. Is this normal?
[07:18] <Stanley00> ah, and one more thing, I cant log out or turn off via GUI. I just can shutdown via command, what should I do?
[07:38] <samrat> has the power regression problem been solved in the latest release?
[07:39] <samrat> what kind of battery performance should i expect?
[08:09] <codepal> surely ubuntu could setup us Precise users with 2.7.3 ??
[08:09] <codepal> I mean, bleeding edge ought to be bleeding
[08:10] <codepal> when is it likely for packages in Ubuntu Software Centre to be upgraded?
[08:10] <codepal> ^^ Gimp related ^^
[08:15] <iceroot> codepal: never
[08:15] <iceroot> codepal: only security updates within one ubuntu-release but never a feature/major upgrade (expect a few programs like firefox and thunderbird)
[08:15] <iceroot> codepal: for 12.04 its different because until know there is no feature freeze
[08:17] <micahg> we'll probably get 2.6.12 in precise
[08:28] <codepal> micahg & iceroot thanks for your responses
[08:29] <codepal> and although I'm dissapointed, I'm still happy, because I know that if I really want something I can compile it myself....
[08:29] <codepal> ;-)
[08:32] <micahg> codepal: what are you interested in updates in?  leaf application are available for backports
[08:33] <iceroot> !backports | codepal
[08:33] <iceroot> !ppa | codepal
[08:45] <Richard_Cavell> Is Precise going to have a non-Unity mode?
[08:49] <bazhang> !info gnome-panel
[09:00] <micahg> there's also gnome-shell, Xfce, LXDE, KDE, and others
[09:05] <samrat> has power regression issues been fixed in the alpha release?
[09:49] <iceroot> is /bin/dash removed as default shell? imo there was a symlink bash - dash so its alway dash we are using even when bash was the login-shell or i am wrong?
[09:51] <Stanley00> iceroot: they are not symlink now, as on my system
[09:51] <iceroot> hm, /bin/sh is symlinked to /bin/dash, so i guess i was wrong and bash was never symlinked just /bin/sh
[10:21] <crizzy> bug 925785
[10:25] <crizzy> ah
[10:25] <crizzy> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45611#c3
[10:53] <iceroot> anyone else facing 100% cpu usage with firefox 11.0~b1+build1-0?
[10:59] <iceroot> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/927547
[11:00] <iceroot> and why is there ff11 in the repos, when ff10 will be a lts-release
[11:35] <geser> micahg: ^^ can you answer it?
[11:41] <iceroot> ah firefox lts  1 year support, so it doesnt matter if we use ff10 or ff11, both will die before 12.04 will it
[11:43] <Arnold> Firefox 12 might drop in just before 12.04 gets released.
[11:47] <iceroot> firefox should become a formular one team with that speed....
[11:48] <Arnold> Even after a certain Ubuntu version gets stable/released, Firefox updates are still rolling in.
[11:48] <iceroot> i like the debian-way more but ok
[11:48] <Arnold> Who knows, we might have Firefox 20 when 12.04 LTS ends its 5 years official support :P
[11:57] <sKew^_-> Hi
[11:57] <sKew^_-> if i install 12.04 now, its just to apt-get update & upgrade when the 12.04 lts final version is out?
[11:57] <sKew^_-> or do i need to do a clean install or somthing?
[11:58] <geser> sKew^_-: if you install now the alpha-2 you can apt-get upgrade it till 12.04 is out
[11:59] <sKew^_-> geser, and when 12.04 is out i still can upgrade it?
[12:01] <bazhang> !final | sKew^_-
[12:01] <geser> yes of course
[12:57] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[13:43] <Almindor> hello
[13:43] <Almindor> does anyone know if the wacom pressure problems (Both gimp and inkscape) are getting fixed?
[13:47] <kklimonda> Almindor: if you are talking about bug 786952 then yes, if not you should just check the right bug report for its status.
[13:47] <Almindor> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/inkscape/+bug/790130
[13:50] <Almindor> and then gimp is bugged too (jumps to left top corner all the time making "lines" with wacom usage + lags)
[13:50] <Almindor> so basically currently any use of the tablet is dust collector :)
[14:26] <notlistening> Hi I am running a test machine with pulse & XBMC and seem to be getting some audio dropouts when changing tracks are there any audio issues know at the moment?
[14:32] <tmus> After upgrading to Precise (A2+updates) from Oneiric on amd64, nautilus has lost access to windows/smb/cifs shares. I can't seem to find any info on the matter... Am I missing some packages or something?
[14:34] <BluesKaj> notlistening,  have you tried running without pulse , it's not needed with some onboard audio chips , however lately pulse seems to be required by alsa for webaudio on pci soundcards.
[14:34] <tmus> Actually, running gvfs-mount manually, my share is mounted just fine?!?
[14:35] <notlistening> BluesKaj, the only reason i have started using pulse is for nagivations sounds, its not a big deal but i wanted them on XBMC
[14:36] <notlistening> BluesKaj, I have booted the process priority and its nice level and it seems to be behaving now, not what the default config is in ubuntu
[14:36] <notlistening> boosted
[14:36] <notlistening> not sure what...
[14:38] <notlistening> tmus no problems here but i am running i686
[14:39] <tmus> notlistening, hmmm, strange... did you do an upgrade or fresh install of precise?
[14:39] <notlistening> upgraded
[14:40] <tmus> okay... gonna try something ang get back
[14:42] <BluesKaj> notlistening,  yeah are some mysterious / odd happenings with my audio as well , except this is on VLC , movies lose the audio after 5mins or so ...wav and mp3 suffer from dropouts constantly on VLC ..too bad 'cause  I'm not an amarok fan , (KDE here) but I'm forced to use it for music. Any DD or DTS passthru works fine in VLC tho.
[15:40] <notlistening> Right well that is what you get for using a dev branch so i will not worry until  april :)
[15:45] <saxoBeat> hello
[15:45] <saxoBeat> how do i burn the oversized ISO, please?
[15:54] <notlistening> saxoBeat, use a DVD...?
[15:56] <saxoBeat> i thought you are notlistening!
[16:02] <edgy> Hi, when I set the resolution and restart I lose it, this is a bug where?
[16:39] <micahg> iceroot: we're not using the Firefox ESR
[16:48] <iceroot> micahg: yes, think its useless because its only 1 year support
[17:37] <h00k> So, alt-tab behavior changed a bit, it only shows windows on that particular viewport
[17:37] <h00k> and navigating subwindows (multiple Empathy windows, for instance) is done with arrow keys
[18:24] <BrandonNolet> Problem :S gnome-settings-daemon crashes after about 2 minutes of login. Ubuntu 12.04 Alpha 2(? just updated distro yesterday) How to fix? or even just recover it. It stops usage of the mouse completely
[18:47] <BrandonNolet> Problem :S gnome-settings-daemon crashes after about 2 minutes of login. Ubuntu 12.04 Alpha 2(? just updated distro yesterday) How to fix? or even just recover it. It stops usage of the mouse completely
[20:09] <shaneo1> hi guys, I have upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04 A2, but I still have issues with the grub.cfg not updating its still set on 3.0.0-13-generic and the kernel is now 3.2.0-14
[20:09] <shaneo1> any help sorting this please
[20:09] <shaneo1> i no longer have the 3.0.0-13 image
[20:09] <shaneo1> annoying having to manually change this at boot up everytime
[20:20] <jtaylor> run update-grub2
[20:52] <shaneo1> sorry jtaylor, I was away from the pc and forgot I was in chat lol thanks I will give that a go
[20:53] <shaneo1> update-grub2 is not a command known to terminal
[20:54] <shaneo1> update-grub2 does not exist
[20:56] <jtaylor> are you still using grub1?
[20:56] <jtaylor> in that case it should be update-grub
[21:35] <rocky> hrm, does anyone know of a guide to install grub on an external usb drive? and preferably detect the OS's that are already installed on it?
[22:32] <bicchi> I noticed something new in the netboot image of Precise Pangolin; It supports IPv6. Anyone knows if this can be disabled? There usually is a "d-i" parameter to turns some features off.
[22:37] <kklimonda> bicchi: you can probably blacklist it from the boot prompt using ipv6.blacklist=1 ?
[22:50] <rocky> hrm, should the intel X driver on recent intel chipsets support compiz ?