[00:08] <Bodsda> Hi, just upgraded to precise, dual monitors using nvidia gfx card, twin view works fine but if I try to use a seperate x screen for the second monitor, all I get is a white screen and a black X for a mouse cursor on that monitor - any ideas?
[00:10] <Bodsda> ah, might be https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/885989
[00:10] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 885989 in nautilus (Ubuntu Precise) "white screen on second monitor when using two xsessions" [Low,Triaged]
[00:18] <Jordan_U> I'm using 64 bit precise with google chrome. Chrome keeps warning me that my flash plugin is out of date, and in Chrome this page: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/155/tn_15507.html tells me I'm using falsh plugin version 10.2.161.22. The same page in Firefox tells me I'm using 11.1.102.55. What is going on and how do I get chrome to use the latest plugin?
[00:28] <micahg> chrome ships its own flash, is chrome up to date?
[00:41] <Jordan_U> micahg: 16.0.912.63 is the version of Google chrome, which appears to not be the latest. Though it's odd that I have the same problem with Chromium and I thought I had the Chrome repository enabled to get updates.
[00:41] <micahg> hmm, idk
[00:41] <micahg> is the system version out of date?
[00:41] <jbicha> chromium does not ship its own flash though
[00:42] <micahg> nah, it might share a profile with chrome though idk
[00:42] <micahg> or at least share plugins
[00:42] <jbicha> yeah, I haven't run real Chrome in a long time on Ubuntu, & Chromium is unfortunately not really available for Windows
[01:05] <Jordan_U> micahg: I just installed 16.0.912.77 and I have the same problem, with the same reported version of Flash.
[01:09] <micahg> Jordan_U: does 'find ~/.config/chrom* -name *flash*.so' show any output?
[01:10] <Jordan_U> micahg: No.
[01:11] <micahg> no idea then
[01:11] <bjsnider> chrome://plugins/
[01:14] <Jordan_U> bjsnider: "Flash (2 files) - Version: 10.2 d161 Download Critical Security Update"
[01:15] <bjsnider> not what mine says
[01:15] <bjsnider> try manually reinstalling it or upgrading it
[01:15] <Jordan_U> I found it. I had a ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so which was the old verison.
[01:16] <Jordan_U> Found using "locate '*flash*.so'". I removed it and now Google Chrome and Chromium report the most recent version, and with no error.
[01:52] <WoC> to prevent the kernel from being updated, do i need to put a hold on any other packages besides; linux-firmware linux-headers-3.2.0-10 linux-headers-3.2.0-10-generic linux-image-3.2.0-10-generic linux-libc-dev linux-sound-base linux-source linux-source-3.2.0 linux-tools-3.2.0-10 linux-tools-common linuxinfo ?
[01:56] <WoC> !ask|ubottu
[01:56] <ubottu> WoC: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[03:20] <open> with unity plugin enabled, for the grid windows
[03:20] <open> how do I resize windows... the key pres doesn't quite work
[03:21] <open> the ctrl + alt + KP_5
[03:22] <open> i try it.. no effect
[03:59] <jbicha> open: do you have a separate number pad?
[04:00] <open> I'm trying them on both
[04:00] <open> the one one the right, the 'keypad one'
[04:00] <open> and the one above the qwerty keys
[04:00] <open> neither work -- and as for the keypad, I tried with both num lock on and off
[04:00] <open> I'm on ubuntu 12.04 alpha 1, by the way
[04:01] <open> running the thing on a virtual box (the image I downloaded from a weird looking website)
[04:01] <open> I should mention, most everything else works well
[04:01] <open> curiously, when I test it out
[04:01] <open> you know when it tells me to manually press the key-combination
[04:01] <open> and it'll pick that.. and set that?
[04:02] <open> that does get correctly recognized, as Ctrl + Alt + KP_whatever
[04:02] <open> but when I try it on a window, it doesn't work
[04:02] <open> am I correct in understanding that I'd just try that combination on whatever window? e.g., if I try it on this Terminal right now, it should just work?
[04:05] <open> hi poolie !
[04:17] <poolie> hi open
[06:25] <iceroot> someone else facing problems with firefox during the last days? firefox is not able to load websites, its loading forever (maybe with 1Kbit/s), chromium, is working fine. am i alone with that or is that a known bug for you?
[06:27] <codepal> PPA for Gimp 2.8 anyone?
[06:34] <iceroot> as it seems its not a browser problem at all           Tx excessive retries:116  Invalid misc:67595   Missed beacon:0
[06:38] <iceroot> but even with that i dont get why chromium is working much better then firefox
[06:43] <razorfish> Hi I can't get eclipse to start. Well, it starts but once I close the welcome screen it crashes. Haven't had this problem on any other os, but heres the paste http://p.mac-mini.org/307
[07:09] <yofel_> razorfish: seems like a crash of libwebkitgtk. Do you have a .crash file in /var/crash/ ?
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[07:09] <razorfish> uh
[07:09] <razorfish> lemee check
[07:09] <razorfish> first off i think it was dumping files in ~ too
[07:09] <razorfish> yofel: _usr_lib_jvm_java-6-openjdk-amd64_jre_bin_java.1000.crash ??
[07:10] <razorfish> http://sprunge.us/ABfV
[07:11] <yofel> yeah, that one. now run 'ubuntu-bug /var/crash/_usr_lib_jvm_java-6-openjdk-amd64_jre_bin_java.1000.crash' to report it
[07:13] <razorfish> http://i.the-beach.co/di-K0JC.png
[07:13] <razorfish> hah
[07:13] <razorfish> crash on bug report
[07:14] <razorfish> I think I had this problem on 11.10 too, not sure
[07:14] <razorfish> the eclipse one
[07:14] <yofel> first time I see that message o.O
[07:15] <yofel> eclipse worked fine a few days ago here, I'll try when I get home
[07:15] <razorfish> I might just go back to arch or maybe debian if im feeling lazy
[07:15] <razorfish> I know that stuff worked on those distros
[07:15] <razorfish> lol
[07:16] <iceroot> razorfish: you know what "alpha" means?
[07:16] <razorfish> I know exactly what it means
[07:17] <Stanley00> Hi. I'm using pangolin, and the dash show only recent apps, docs and musics, and not the application. Is this normal?
[07:18] <Stanley00> ah, and one more thing, I cant log out or turn off via GUI. I just can shutdown via command, what should I do?
[07:38] <samrat> has the power regression problem been solved in the latest release?
[07:39] <samrat> what kind of battery performance should i expect?
[08:09] <codepal> surely ubuntu could setup us Precise users with 2.7.3 ??
[08:09] <codepal> I mean, bleeding edge ought to be bleeding
[08:10] <codepal> when is it likely for packages in Ubuntu Software Centre to be upgraded?
[08:10] <codepal> ^^ Gimp related ^^
[08:15] <iceroot> codepal: never
[08:15] <iceroot> codepal: only security updates within one ubuntu-release but never a feature/major upgrade (expect a few programs like firefox and thunderbird)
[08:15] <iceroot> codepal: for 12.04 its different because until know there is no feature freeze
[08:17] <micahg> we'll probably get 2.6.12 in precise
[08:28] <codepal> micahg & iceroot thanks for your responses
[08:29] <codepal> and although I'm dissapointed, I'm still happy, because I know that if I really want something I can compile it myself....
[08:29] <codepal> ;-)
[08:32] <micahg> codepal: what are you interested in updates in?  leaf application are available for backports
[08:33] <iceroot> !backports | codepal
[08:33] <ubottu> codepal: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[08:33] <iceroot> !ppa | codepal
[08:33] <ubottu> codepal: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa
[08:45] <Richard_Cavell> Is Precise going to have a non-Unity mode?
[08:49] <bazhang> !info gnome-panel
[08:49] <ubottu> gnome-panel (source: gnome-panel): launcher and docking facility for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:3.3.3-0ubuntu2 (precise), package size 412 kB, installed size 1232 kB (Only available for any all)
[09:00] <micahg> there's also gnome-shell, Xfce, LXDE, KDE, and others
[09:05] <samrat> has power regression issues been fixed in the alpha release?
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[09:49] <iceroot> is /bin/dash removed as default shell? imo there was a symlink bash - dash so its alway dash we are using even when bash was the login-shell or i am wrong?
[09:51] <Stanley00> iceroot: they are not symlink now, as on my system
[09:51] <iceroot> hm, /bin/sh is symlinked to /bin/dash, so i guess i was wrong and bash was never symlinked just /bin/sh
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[10:21] <crizzy> bug 925785
[10:21] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 925785 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Starting to scroll is erratic with edge scrolling on touchpad or mouse scrollwheels" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/925785
[10:25] <crizzy> ah
[10:25] <crizzy> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45611#c3
[10:25] <ubottu> Freedesktop bug 45611 in Server/Input/Core "erratic scrolling in 1.12" [Normal,New: ]
[10:53] <iceroot> anyone else facing 100% cpu usage with firefox 11.0~b1+build1-0?
[10:59] <iceroot> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/927547
[10:59] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 927547 in firefox (Ubuntu) "[12.04] latest firefox ( 11.0~b1+build1-0) is always producing 100% cpu usage" [Undecided,New]
[11:00] <iceroot> and why is there ff11 in the repos, when ff10 will be a lts-release
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[11:35] <geser> micahg: ^^ can you answer it?
[11:41] <iceroot> ah firefox lts  1 year support, so it doesnt matter if we use ff10 or ff11, both will die before 12.04 will it
[11:43] <Arnold> Firefox 12 might drop in just before 12.04 gets released.
[11:47] <iceroot> firefox should become a formular one team with that speed....
[11:48] <Arnold> Even after a certain Ubuntu version gets stable/released, Firefox updates are still rolling in.
[11:48] <iceroot> i like the debian-way more but ok
[11:48] <Arnold> Who knows, we might have Firefox 20 when 12.04 LTS ends its 5 years official support :P
[11:57] <sKew^_-> Hi
[11:57] <sKew^_-> if i install 12.04 now, its just to apt-get update & upgrade when the 12.04 lts final version is out?
[11:57] <sKew^_-> or do i need to do a clean install or somthing?
[11:58] <geser> sKew^_-: if you install now the alpha-2 you can apt-get upgrade it till 12.04 is out
[11:59] <sKew^_-> geser, and when 12.04 is out i still can upgrade it?
[12:01] <bazhang> !final | sKew^_-
[12:01] <ubottu> sKew^_-: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Precise and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 12.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a terminal.
[12:01] <geser> yes of course
[12:57] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[13:43] <Almindor> hello
[13:43] <Almindor> does anyone know if the wacom pressure problems (Both gimp and inkscape) are getting fixed?
[13:47] <kklimonda> Almindor: if you are talking about bug 786952 then yes, if not you should just check the right bug report for its status.
[13:47] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 786952 in linux (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Wacom Bamboo Pen - Pressure too sensitive (Needs kernel 3.1 patch backported)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/786952
[13:47] <Almindor> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/inkscape/+bug/790130
[13:47] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 790130 in Inkscape "no pressure sensitivity with wacom tablet in inkscape" [Medium,Confirmed]
[13:50] <Almindor> and then gimp is bugged too (jumps to left top corner all the time making "lines" with wacom usage + lags)
[13:50] <Almindor> so basically currently any use of the tablet is dust collector :)
[14:26] <notlistening> Hi I am running a test machine with pulse & XBMC and seem to be getting some audio dropouts when changing tracks are there any audio issues know at the moment?
[14:32] <tmus> After upgrading to Precise (A2+updates) from Oneiric on amd64, nautilus has lost access to windows/smb/cifs shares. I can't seem to find any info on the matter... Am I missing some packages or something?
[14:34] <BluesKaj> notlistening,  have you tried running without pulse , it's not needed with some onboard audio chips , however lately pulse seems to be required by alsa for webaudio on pci soundcards.
[14:34] <tmus> Actually, running gvfs-mount manually, my share is mounted just fine?!?
[14:35] <notlistening> BluesKaj, the only reason i have started using pulse is for nagivations sounds, its not a big deal but i wanted them on XBMC
[14:36] <notlistening> BluesKaj, I have booted the process priority and its nice level and it seems to be behaving now, not what the default config is in ubuntu
[14:36] <notlistening> boosted
[14:36] <notlistening> not sure what...
[14:38] <notlistening> tmus no problems here but i am running i686
[14:39] <tmus> notlistening, hmmm, strange... did you do an upgrade or fresh install of precise?
[14:39] <notlistening> upgraded
[14:40] <tmus> okay... gonna try something ang get back
[14:42] <BluesKaj> notlistening,  yeah are some mysterious / odd happenings with my audio as well , except this is on VLC , movies lose the audio after 5mins or so ...wav and mp3 suffer from dropouts constantly on VLC ..too bad 'cause  I'm not an amarok fan , (KDE here) but I'm forced to use it for music. Any DD or DTS passthru works fine in VLC tho.
[15:40] <notlistening> Right well that is what you get for using a dev branch so i will not worry until  april :)
[15:45] <saxoBeat> hello
[15:45] <saxoBeat> how do i burn the oversized ISO, please?
[15:54] <notlistening> saxoBeat, use a DVD...?
[15:56] <saxoBeat> i thought you are notlistening!
[16:02] <edgy> Hi, when I set the resolution and restart I lose it, this is a bug where?
[16:39] <micahg> iceroot: we're not using the Firefox ESR
[16:48] <iceroot> micahg: yes, think its useless because its only 1 year support
[17:37] <h00k> So, alt-tab behavior changed a bit, it only shows windows on that particular viewport
[17:37] <h00k> and navigating subwindows (multiple Empathy windows, for instance) is done with arrow keys
[18:24] <BrandonNolet> Problem :S gnome-settings-daemon crashes after about 2 minutes of login. Ubuntu 12.04 Alpha 2(? just updated distro yesterday) How to fix? or even just recover it. It stops usage of the mouse completely
[18:47] <BrandonNolet> Problem :S gnome-settings-daemon crashes after about 2 minutes of login. Ubuntu 12.04 Alpha 2(? just updated distro yesterday) How to fix? or even just recover it. It stops usage of the mouse completely
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[20:09] <shaneo1> hi guys, I have upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04 A2, but I still have issues with the grub.cfg not updating its still set on 3.0.0-13-generic and the kernel is now 3.2.0-14
[20:09] <shaneo1> any help sorting this please
[20:09] <shaneo1> i no longer have the 3.0.0-13 image
[20:09] <shaneo1> annoying having to manually change this at boot up everytime
[20:20] <jtaylor> run update-grub2
[20:52] <shaneo1> sorry jtaylor, I was away from the pc and forgot I was in chat lol thanks I will give that a go
[20:53] <shaneo1> update-grub2 is not a command known to terminal
[20:54] <shaneo1> update-grub2 does not exist
[20:56] <jtaylor> are you still using grub1?
[20:56] <jtaylor> in that case it should be update-grub
[21:35] <rocky> hrm, does anyone know of a guide to install grub on an external usb drive? and preferably detect the OS's that are already installed on it?
[22:32] <bicchi> I noticed something new in the netboot image of Precise Pangolin; It supports IPv6. Anyone knows if this can be disabled? There usually is a "d-i" parameter to turns some features off.
[22:37] <kklimonda> bicchi: you can probably blacklist it from the boot prompt using ipv6.blacklist=1 ?
[22:50] <rocky> hrm, should the intel X driver on recent intel chipsets support compiz ?