=== Troletariat is now known as Omega [05:00] Good morning [05:01] Woah! It's pitti! [05:01] Good morning. [05:01] hey RAOF, how are you? [05:02] Pretty good. [05:05] Had quite an energetic boxing session this morning, fixed a couple of the bugs blocking the next gnome-do release on Sunday. [05:06] pitti: what do you think of http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/libcanberra/ubuntu/revision/141 [05:06] it seems to fix https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=667905 for me [05:06] Gnome bug 667905 in general "fails to build: libcanberra undefined references" [Critical,Unconfirmed] [05:06] Good Morning. :> [05:07] good morning [05:08] jbicha: hmm, ldd /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcanberra.so.0 doesn't show libcanberra anywhere? [05:09] jbicha: err, "show libX11" [05:09] pitti: I don't really understand library linking much, so I need someone to help fix whatever's not working :) [05:10] jbicha: ah, looked at the wrong library [05:10] $ ldd /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcanberra-gtk3.so.0.1.8|grep X11 [05:10] libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6 (0x00007fc464d5a000) [05:10] jbicha: so, if it doesn't happen in jhbuild, I wonder whether we have a patch or otherwise misbuild of canberra-GTK3 [05:11] the GTK2 version seems to have reasonable dependencies [05:11] -gtk3 depends on a ton of X stuff [05:11] hm, I guess it's not -gtk2, it's the base library [05:12] jbicha: but looks fine to me for now [05:13] you're saying you don't think the patch is necessary at first glance? [05:13] or the opposite [05:19] good morning, everyone [05:20] RAOF: did you see me complaining about erratic scrolling behaviour? [05:20] desrt: Yes, I did. [05:20] am i insane or are other people reporting this as well? [05:20] Other people are reporting this as well. [05:20] oh. good. [05:20] Do you have an external mouse plugged in, by any chance? [05:21] yes [05:21] Yeah, I'm pretty sure that triggers it. [05:21] i have a thinkpad with a trackpoint and a (disabled) touchpad [05:21] it's on a dock [05:21] and i have a usb mouse plugged into the dock [05:21] (Or rather, the first scroll you try after moving the external mouse will be weird) [05:22] So, the buglink has fallen off the end of my scrollback, but there's a bug assigned to Chase. [05:22] could it be something to do with the scrolling emulation for the trackpoint? [05:22] ah. utouch issue, you think? [05:22] No; something to do with the new input stack. [05:22] right. that was my guess. [05:22] okay. glad it's in the known-issue pile :) [05:22] But since he's one of three people in the world who has a good idea about the X input stack… ☺ [05:22] let me know if you need some testing or anything [05:23] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/925785 is your winning bug. [05:23] Launchpad bug 925785 in xorg-server "Starting to scroll is erratic with edge scrolling on touchpad or mouse scrollwheels" [Medium,Confirmed] [05:24] RAOF: something else interesting: horizontal scroll seems to be consistently backwards [05:25] Fun! That's not the case for me :) [05:25] And, in return: What the hell is the GTK change which prompted http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-control-center/commit/?id=7f5733b454e26c882d4e707b57cd03b104f57dd2 ? This also seems to apply to GTK2, and it broke applications (specifically, *my* application, GNOME Do). Why is GTK2 still receiving application-breaking changes?! [05:25] so xev shows scroll-left as button 7 and scroll-right as button 6 [05:26] I'd have thought that the button which generates left-scroll would be 6 and right-scroll be 7. [05:26] Also, buttons for scroll events is a terrible hack that must be expunged :) [05:26] that's the same sort of logic that would cause you to expect that scrolling left scrolls left :) [05:27] so the story is that was introduced because of macs [05:27] q is the same as q [05:27] except on macs where it's q [05:28] Ok. [05:28] * desrt wonders why the hell bastien is writing such ridiculous code [05:28] Except for the bit where binding space fails. [05:28] And binding space works. [05:28] fascinating. [05:29] how did creep into your world? [05:29] GNOME Do's keybindings. [05:29] desrt: bug 921139 [05:29] Launchpad bug 921139 in xorg-server "mouse scroll left<->right inverted since 1.11" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/921139 [05:29] RAOF: yes... but did someone set a keybinding? [05:30] is that what gtk returns to you know for the "type what you want the new keybinding to be..." code? [05:30] desrt: No. Somebody tried to set space, the KeybindingCellRenderer showed space, and pressing space didn't work. [05:30] RAOF: this sounds like a bug [05:30] It does, yes. [05:31] It is the same bug Bastien was working around there :) [05:31] (Or, at least, it's highly likely to be the same bug) [05:31] RAOF: i'm still confused by exactly what the cause is [05:31] Also, GTK also seems to be setting both the Hyper and Super mask for space. [06:09] GunnarHj: good morning [06:09] pitti: Moring! [06:10] Morning [06:10] GunnarHj: would you mind if we drop the custom branch for language-selector, and start using ubuntu:language-selector from now on? [06:11] GunnarHj: I think we don't have any pending merge proposals from you any more, do we? [06:12] pitti: Whatever you decide is fine to me. Yes, I resubmitted the latest l-s MP and added a couple of items... [06:12] GunnarHj: https://code.launchpad.net/~jincreator/language-selector/korean_settings/+merge/72897 is the only one outstanding [06:13] GunnarHj: but it seems to me that this was covered by your recent one? [06:13] * pitti checks what's outstanding there [06:14] pitti: Aha, didn't know you already merged it. :) [06:15] pitti: In that case I have nothing more. Probably the latest one covers jincreator's MP, but I haven't studied it in detail. [06:16] GunnarHj: hm, where did you take your fontconfig changes from? [06:17] GunnarHj: where your and jincreator's versions differ, I guess I should take jincreator's? [06:17] pitti: From the "Modified configuration files ..." attachment to bug 792471 [06:17] Launchpad bug 792471 in fontconfig "Change default Korean font to ttf-nanum" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/792471 [06:18] GunnarHj: ah, I see; anyway, there aren't too many differences anyway [06:20] pitti: Just saw your comment on that bug. Do you think that the fontconfig MP is redundant? [06:21] I don't know really [06:21] but I thought the point of fontconfig.d/ was that fonts packages drop their own stuff there [06:21] so that fontconfig itself doesn't need all the font specific knowledge [06:21] it's currently quite messy [06:22] there's fontconfig, fontconfig-config, the various config.d/ from fonts-*, and to make it worse, the hacks from language-selector [06:22] the latter need to be dropped at some point, they are a really evil hack [06:22] but as nobody in the ubuntu dev team really understands fontconfig, there's little chance of getting some cleanup there [06:24] pitti: Well, I have no own knowledge in this area to contribute with. :( Basically I felt that since the Koreans switch to a new default set of fonts, it's important to please them so soon before the LTS release. If there is a smarter way to organize it, that should probably better been dealt with after the release. [06:24] yes [06:24] anyway, changing existing config files at that point is ok [06:24] I just want to avoid introducing new ones at that point [06:24] pitti: Ok. [06:26] ok, 0.65 uploaded, branch retired [06:27] GunnarHj: btw, would you be interested in looking into the im-switch -> im-config change? [06:28] pitti: Ok, I can take a look at it. [06:29] GunnarHj: it might just be a dependency change, if it's really a drop-in replacement [06:30] if it's not, perhaps im-config already does proper config migration [06:30] if it uses different config files, and doesn't migrate, we should probably leave it alone at that point [06:30] pitti: I know it's a little more than that. They use different directories, for instance. [06:30] but we owe Osamu a reply at least, I think [06:30] GunnarHj: I really appreciate this, thanks for looking into it [06:31] pitti: No problem. But it may take a couple of days before I'm able to get back to you about it. [06:39] good morning [06:43] bonjour didrocks [06:43] hey pitti, how was your week-end? [06:43] didrocks: quite nice, thanks! met a lot of friends and family in Dresden again [06:44] geat, not too tired by the hours of train required? :) [06:44] a bit [06:44] didrocks: how was your's? [06:47] pitti: was fine. Still waiting to get back our broken heater to the shop, so we drink a lot of tea when being in the main room :) Nothing too exciting, we had a quite week-end with this cold week-end [06:48] it's ice cold here, too :/ [06:48] -17 this morning, brrr [06:48] about the same here, especially with this huge wind === warp11 is now known as warp10 === agateau_ is now known as agateau [08:35] hey [08:36] bonjour seb128 [08:36] hey pitti, how are you? [08:38] quite fine, thanks! had a nice weekend in Dresden again [08:38] how are you? [08:39] salut seb128, levé tôt par rapport à d'habitude? :) [08:40] pitti, I'm great thanks, had a nice relaxing freezing w.e ;-) [08:40] hey seb128 pitti didrocks [08:40] lut didrocks, ouais, j'avais assez dormis ;-) [08:40] hey chrisccoulson [08:40] how are you? [08:40] hey chrisccoulson, how are you? [08:40] good! [08:40] seb128, yeah, good thanks. how are you? [08:46] hey chrisccoulson, good morning [08:47] hi pitti, did you have a good weekend? [08:47] chrisccoulson: yes, I did; we went to Dresden again, and met family and friends [08:48] excellent :) [08:48] have you got lots of snow atm? [08:48] not that much, mostly cold [08:55] chrisccoulson: ah, interesting comment about using the Firefox 10 ESR version in precise [08:56] chrisccoulson: we'll ship 11 (and keep updating) because more users want the latest and greatest? [09:02] Goood MoooOOOooorning Desktoppers! [09:03] hey Sweetshark, welcome back! [09:03] Sweetshark: how was your vacation? [09:03] you sound refreshed and full of beans! [09:04] * Sweetshark finds out that returning from a two week vacation is a bit like deep snow skiiing (digging through a >3000 inbox) ... [09:06] good morning Sweetshark :) [09:10] pitti: Yes, vacation was great. Diverting on the return to make an intermediate stop at bruxelles for FOSDEM was a good idea too (and a great travel experience: digging out the car from ~50cm of snow and ice, driving to albertville with it, taking the train to lyon, taking the tram to the airport, waiting at the airport in an unheated terminal for boarding at -10 degree celsius which easyjet considered perfectly normal, arriving in bruxelle [09:12] didrocks, seb128: and I will never disrespect the french train system again. 26 Euros for a ride from Albertville to Lyon is great, esp. if the train is 30 minutes late at the starting point and still arrives on time. [09:13] hah, sounds like fun [09:13] seems we were more lucky over the weekends [09:14] they had a broken track due to the cold, but only 10 mins delay during the trip, but they caught up pretty well again [09:14] Sweetshark: waow you were quite lucky to arrive on time, as Albertville <-> Lyon is not that fast :) [09:15] pitti, yeah, i'm going to blog about it today ;) [09:17] and so many things happened over the vacation: HUD announcement (yay!), The document foundation finally founded in Berlin (Yeah!), FOSDEM being absolutely amazing (LibreOffice DevRoom bursting from all the talks packed in it). [09:18] Sweetshark, would be better if they were on time at the start point still ;-) [09:18] Sweetshark: so nice to get back from vac then :) [09:19] seb128: it was not more off time than it might happen in germany, but here sucha ticket would be triple the price ... [09:19] hehe [09:22] that's because Lyon rocks :) (ok, you just saw the train station I guess :)) [09:25] didrocks: indeed. i spend no more than 5 minutes on ground in lyon between arriving with the ter train and leaving with the tram to the airport having no knowledge at all how one gets to the airport (or where it is) in lyon at all. [09:26] Sweetshark: the tram is nice, isn't it? getting to the airport in less than 30 minutes… [09:26] (the train station/tram station is at less than 20 minutes by feet from my home) [09:38] didrocks: yes, the tram is nice! I just wondered about the relative pricing (half the price of getting from Albertville to Lyon seemed odd). [09:39] Sweetshark: yeah, it's weird. It was a one hour trip by bus before and the price of the bug for 13 €, when they launched this new service last year, they just aligned… [09:41] didrocks: "price of the bug for 13 €"? ok, I take 1000 for that price. By when will you have all the open bugs for LO fixed? ;D [09:42] s/bug/bus :p [09:42] hehe [09:42] yeah, we will become rich! :) [09:44] * Sweetshark would seriously consider to shell out 13K € if somebody fixes all current open LO issues in launchpad for that with no exceptions. [09:44] (personal money that is) [09:51] morning! anyone from the SRU team, can you look at SRU bug #877358 ? [09:51] Launchpad bug 877358 in qt-at-spi "QtAccessibility causes crashes in several applications" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/877358 [09:51] (rah... never press Enter while editing a chat line) [09:52] well that should be readable enough I hope [09:53] agateau: I didn't accept it yet because there is already an at-spi2-core in -proposed which needs testing first [09:54] pitti: oh ok [09:54] agateau: oh, I see, it's meant to replace this? [09:54] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/91134355/at-spi2-core_2.2.2-0ubuntu1.2_source.changes looks rightly done, anyway (using -v [09:55] agateau: ok, debdifff looks fine, accepting [09:55] pitti: great, thanks === vuntz_ is now known as vuntz [09:58] * didrocks uploaded with -v, isn't it? [09:58] pitti: ^ [09:58] yes [09:59] ok :) [10:29] seb128: did you investigate the l10n in LO broken on a release build but not in a PPA issue further? [10:30] Sweetshark, not really lo is complex enough that I figured it wouldn't get something useful in an hour [10:33] pitti: requesting a "640K is _NOT_ enough for everyone"-exception for PPA builders for libreoffice. I tried hard to get the LO 3.5.0rc1 build on the PPA for the second bug hunting session, but it unfortunately failed. Not wanting to spoil my vacation, I did not check the build log at 3am then, only to find out that it failed with: [10:33] IO error: write error during copy : No space left on device [10:36] urgh [10:36] Sweetshark: I'm afraid you need to coordinate that with infinity; we might have PPA buildss with more space [10:59] huh, i just wrote a patch for the icedtea plugin, and it compiled first time [10:59] i must have done something wrong === rickspencer3_ is now known as rickspencer3 [11:02] *chuckle* [11:10] chrisccoulson, did it run? [11:10] rye, yes. and it fixed the crash i'm trying to fix. but it exposed another one that i also need to fix :) [11:11] chrisccoulson: you should have had a "return 0" at the begining, you could then have said "yeah, I ran it and it even didn't crash!" :) [11:11] heh [11:23] seb128, we can reapply the light-themes changes btw. i fixed thunderbird by friday evening [11:23] chrisccoulson, thanks [11:26] Wooo! Asynchronous packagekit integration for the colour capplet. [11:26] pitti, I was travellking last week, so didn't get a chance to ping you, so just so you know: about to finish the wip/install-langs branch [11:27] pitti, will ping you as soon as it's ready [11:28] hey rodrigo_ [11:28] rodrigo_: ah, thanks [11:28] rodrigo_: please tell me if the aptdaemon-pkcompat stuff doesn't work for you [11:28] pitti, will do === seiflotfy is now known as seifstrup [11:43] chrisccoulson: oh, are you about to upload icedtea? [11:43] chrisccoulson: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/precise_probs.html looks like a trivial problem to fix [11:43] pitti, no, i'm trying to fix the number 7 top crasher in firefox 10 :) [11:44] ok [11:46] oh, it's actually number 5 today :( [11:50] right, this had better fix it this time :) [11:51] chrisccoulson, is it something related to single-threaded thing that once was multi-threaded in icedtea? [11:51] rye, http://blog.mozilla.com/luke/2012/01/24/jsruntime-is-now-officially-single-threaded/ [11:52] someone from mozilla did open a bug in the icedtea bug tracker in november, but it's had zero responses so far [11:52] and the crash volume is pretty much block-worthy now ;) [11:53] yay, no crashes \o/ [11:53] well, for the test case that i have here, anyway [11:53] i guess i should try a few more sites [12:04] oh, that sucks. bamfdaemon just crashed on me [12:05] now my launcher looks like it's pretty much hosed until i restart my session [12:08] chrisccoulson, I'm not sure it's the proper way, but resetting unity seems to fix it for me [12:09] dpm: shouldn't be related at all [12:09] dpm: or jus try to restart unity [12:09] just* [12:10] didrocks, I didn't know, I just blindly restarted unity when bamfdaemon crashed and I started getting duplicated launchers all over the place :) [12:11] that's why i logged out :) [12:11] sometimes it's the easiest way [12:11] tmux to the rescue! [12:11] didrocks, btw, the unity upload last Friday did fix my issue with indicator menus appearing in grey instead of black. The only remaining issue is that the sound indicator volume slider's background is grey. Not sure if there is an existing bug for it, but if it's not known, I'll be happy to file it [12:12] dpm: I read something about it, not sure if there is a bug or not opened on it, you should look at light-themes and ping Cimi [12:12] ok [12:23] pitti, hi [12:33] mvo, hey [12:33] just getting around the i-session package kit port now [12:34] mvo, just wondering, I don't see it on the bus, starting update-manager and did an upgrade [12:34] but couldn't see org.freedesktop.packagekit on d-feet [12:34] system bus i would imagine ? [12:37] ronoc: yeah, it should be on the system bus but iirc its auto activated [12:37] mvo, oh okay cool, will try now [12:38] ok [12:40] dpm, btw, reÑ unity background ' the keyboard layout display has a dark background instead of light one used earlier ' is this in the same category_ [12:42] symbols key - "'" -> "-", "_" -> "?" [12:46] rye, the keyboard layout display looks the same as it's ever been to me [12:50] seb128: mind if I kill the numlock warning in gtk+3.0 and gss with fire? [12:50] mdeslaur, cf my comment on the bug [12:50] mdeslaur, hey btw ;-) === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:51] hah, "A new mailing list has been created for Ayatana Discussion (unity-design). If you would like to subscribe to the list,...." [12:51] mdeslaur, one of the upstream bug says "should be for netbooks only", they have keys with multiple usages that makes the warning useful for those? [12:51] errrrrrm [12:51] i think not :) [12:51] chrisccoulson, ;-) [12:51] seb128: hi! good weekend? [12:51] mdeslaur, excellent! you? [12:52] seb128: the problem is a lot of hardware lies about the state of the numlock key, it's not possible to get this right without quirking all the specific hardware [12:53] mdeslaur, feel free to go for it if you add your patch to the upstream bugs with a comment stating why you think it's the right thing to do ;-) [12:53] mdeslaur, there might be a new gtk today so maybe just commit to the vcs for gtk and don't upload [12:53] seb128: ok, thanks [12:53] no need to keep the buildds busy with a second undeed build [12:53] mdeslaur, yw, thanks for working on those issues! [12:54] desktop help is greatly appreciated ;-) [12:55] seb128: well, don't get too used to it, I only fix bugs when they annoy the crap out of me :) [12:56] mdeslaur, i bet i can make https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=716036 annoy the crap out of you [12:56] Mozilla bug 716036 in Layout "css z-ordering renders invisible text on google search page" [Normal,Unconfirmed: ] [12:57] chrisccoulson: I use w3m, nice try though [12:58] lol [13:04] dpm, http://ubuntuone.com/3XnG7IgXW6umEwCZnj7V08 [13:05] rye, oh that one, yes, that indeed doesn't look right [13:05] it displays the same for me too [13:15] by the way - in current precise/unity sometimes i get the same window appearing as two in the alt-tab switcher - e.g. firefox, ubuntuone control panel - http://ubuntuone.com/6J4ZyQmXpH6Axx8GXSNniz - is it known? [13:18] rye, does it has a duplicate > on the launcher as well? [13:19] seb128, yes [13:19] rye, I've noticed that too, dunno if there is a bug report, you should open a bug with ubuntu-bug unity [13:20] rye, bug 926385 [13:20] Launchpad bug 926385 in unity "thunderbird appears twice in windows switcher" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/926385 [13:21] jibel, how about we rename it to "applications appear twice in windows switcher" ? [13:21] jibel, and i will add the picture [13:21] heh [13:22] what's interesting is that both of the windows are selected when alt-tabing, as if the system knows that's one object [13:22] rye, sure, don't hesitate to rename it to better describe the problem. [13:22] jibel, it's not specific to tb and not specific to the switcher ;-) [13:22] the title is a bit misleading [13:23] i.e the launcher also has a duplicate > when that happens [13:31] well, i got the "launcher listed twice" issue right after bamfdaemon crashed :) [13:31] might be a clue ;) [13:33] chrisccoulson, did you report the segfault issue? [13:33] seb128, not yet. i need to update my system before i recreate it [13:33] ok [13:33] seb128, bug 926208 [13:34] Launchpad bug 926208 in bamf "bamfdaemon crashed with SIGABRT in g_assertion_message()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/926208 [13:34] jibel, thanks [13:34] we need to get Trevinho or or DBO to look at it ;-) [13:38] pgraner: hey, we have a potential fix for your unity crash. It can trigger some regression on session close though (compiz segfaulting when exiting), but it should be better than what you had. Can you confirm it fixes it for you? It's in the unity-team ppa: https://launchpad.net/~unity-team/+archive/ppa [13:40] seb128, to reproduce the crash, open g-c-c and select different config applets until it crashes. [13:40] I'll update the report [13:40] jibel, thanks [13:43] didrocks, I'll check here in a bit otp right now [13:43] pgraner: thanks, keep me i touch :) [13:43] in* [13:44] didrocks, ack [13:48] mdeslaur, btw I'm not sure I like your nautilus change, having selinux support built in makes easier to use selinux for those who want that, ideally we shouldn't have to turn it off to hide the properties section [13:49] mdeslaur, is there a way to check if selinux is active? [13:49] seb128: if you get one of our three selinux users to actually make selinux work properly in Precise, I'll turn it back on [13:50] lol [13:50] seb128: our nautilus doesn't even have the big selinux patch that RH carries to make the information useful [13:50] mdeslaur, ok, fair enough ;-) [13:59] seb128: if you set an icon for your account, are you able to get g-c-c to remove it? [13:59] seb128: just want to confirm before filing a bug [14:00] mdeslaur, thanks for screwing my config :p [14:00] seb128: lol, I guess that's a "no"? :) [14:01] mdeslaur, indeed :p [14:02] mdeslaur, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=665173 [14:02] Gnome bug 665173 in User Accounts "Can't reset user avatar (image)" [Normal,Resolved: notgnome] [14:02] mdeslaur, seems an accountsservice thing and fixed upstream, can you open a bug on launchpad, I will look at backporting the fix later [14:02] seb128: sure, thanks [14:03] mdeslaur, thanks for pointing it ;-) [14:04] seb128: you'd point it out too if you were stuck with a butterfly on your login screen :) [14:04] mdeslaur, I think I am, thanks to you :p [14:04] hehe [14:07] seb128: wow, you're fast! [14:08] mdeslaur, lol [14:08] I just got lucky, I opened the bug list as a todolist item and I noticed you just filed the bug ;-) [14:09] hehe === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === jdstrand_ is now known as jdstrand [14:20] in* [14:20] oupss ENOTGOODTERMINAL === dduffey_afk is now known as dduffey [14:26] seb128: about this bug [14:26] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bamf/+bug/926208 [14:26] Launchpad bug 926208 in bamf "bamfdaemon crashed with SIGABRT in g_assertion_message()" [High,Confirmed] [14:26] I can't reproduce it on trunk [14:27] Trevinho, yes? [14:27] for sure there are visual issues... :/ [14:27] Trevinho, is trunk much different from precise? [14:27] mhmhm... I guess it is [14:27] need to checkl [14:27] Trevinho, is there any tarball rolling planned? did that happen for 5.2? [14:29] seb128: I'm not sure I understood what you mean :) [14:29] Trevinho, was there a bamf release for unity 5.2? [14:29] seems so [14:29] 0.2.108 release from the 0.2 series released 2012-02-03 [14:30] Trevinho, so trunk changed a lot since friday or is 0.2 different from trunk? I'm trying to figure why we don't get those bug fixes from trunk in precise ;-) [14:30] mh, no it doesn't change [14:31] Trevinho, https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/bamf/trunk [14:31] I guess they're matching so... [14:31] Trevinho, seems to indicate that precise is trunk [14:31] so that bug should still be in trunk ... [14:31] Trevinho, do you build with different optimizations, like -O0? [14:32] rather than -O2 [14:32] Trevinho, one thing which happens when you don't use -O2 is that variables get null initialized, so it can hide bugs due to improper init [14:34] seb128: I'm building it with default settings [14:34] so... I guess O2 [14:34] * Trevinho checking [14:35] Trevinho, thanks [14:35] weird [14:35] Trevinho, the stacktrace is not useful on this bug to figure the issue? what debug infos would be useful? [14:35] no, I'm using O2 [14:35] that stacktrace is not useful [14:36] I don't get any bamf code pointed there except the main [14:36] so.... A full stacktrace.... If you can build it from sources and exec it from there maybe you get more infos [14:39] seb128: damn... I really can't reproduce it... I'm switching gnome-control-center panel for about 50 times (also very quickly) and nothing happens [14:39] maybe I should try to use a xtest script... [14:40] Trevinho, no sure but I seem to have it often there when I load a custom .desktop from the dash, custom being one in my .local [14:40] Trevinho, I will try to get extra infos [14:41] thanks seb128 [14:43] pitti, hmm, I don't see aptdaemon-pkcompat package, should I? [14:44] pitti, is it python-aptdaemon.pkcompat ? [14:49] Trevinho, right, it doesn't segfault for me either :-( but I easily get the double instance (i.e > in the launcher and alt-tab buggy) with g-c-c [14:51] yes, that's true [14:51] that totally needs a proper fix [14:51] even if... did you restart unity after updating bamf? [14:51] Trevinho, you get it as well? [14:52] Trevinho, yes [14:53] seb128: yes, but I didn't restart unity... [14:53] Anyway that should be definitively fixed [14:53] Trevinho, it happens easily on fresh sessions there [14:53] well "fresh", normal login after boot, but could be that bamf segfault and get respawned during the session [14:54] seb128: it could be possible... In fact I should check that with working bamf... I didn't notice that issue during the deveolpment [14:54] Trevinho, I will try to valgrind it a bit later [14:55] nice [15:05] seb128, hello [15:05] seb128, i hope it wasnt intentional to drop libgdk-pixbuf2.0-common.install? [15:06] ricotz, oh, crap, thanks [15:06] ricotz, no, I probably forgot to bzr add it [15:06]