[00:00] <holstein> if you want to know the 'order', i say do them all at once, OR let us know what the packgaes are and we can make suggestions
[00:00] <holstein> Soviet: i am
[00:00] <holstein> yu are worried about the order
[00:00] <holstein> and i say, do it all in one commande.. sudo dpkg -i file1.deb file2.deb file3.deb
[00:00] <Soviet> So if it tries to install one package first, and that package requires another package, it will not fail?
[00:00] <holstein> Soviet: you literally have no better option than to jus try that
[00:01] <Oer> Soviet install the metapackage and depencies will follow
[00:01] <holstein> Soviet: i am suggesting it because it has worked for me
[00:01] <holstein> Soviet: am i positive it will work? no
[00:01] <Soviet> ..guess I'll try it..
[00:01] <Soviet> arigatou.
[00:01] <holstein> Soviet: do i think it will? sure... and you can try it.. all in one command and see.. or read the dpkg man pages
[00:02] <Soviet> holstein I tend to ignore when people imply "rtfm" :)
[00:02] <Soviet> Oh, one more thing.
[00:02] <holstein> Soviet: sure.. and im saying "try it" OR else, reading the man page is the only way to be sure, however, i find it worked for me
[00:02] <Oer> did you get !offline, soviet ?
[00:02] <Soviet> I don't know what my distro uses..
[00:02] <Oer> !offline
[00:02] <Oer> !clone
[00:03] <Soviet> like Maverick, lucid etc
[00:03] <Soviet> idk what mine is
[00:03] <barakisbrown> Q:Installing 11.10, It is froezen during configuring system but the I can access the menus like it is not frozen????
[00:03] <holstein> yeah, apt-on-CD would be nice to have ina dialup scneario
[00:03] <Soviet> !APTonCD
[00:03] <Soviet> my version is 9.10
[00:03] <holstein> lsb_release -a Soviet
[00:04] <Soviet> I don't have it running.
[00:04] <holstein> Soviet: 9.10 is not supported anymore
[00:04] <Soviet> Well what's it use..?
[00:04] <holstein> 9.10 was karmic
[00:04] <Soviet> k
[00:04] <holstein> Soviet: ?
[00:04] <holstein> use?
[00:04] <Soviet> AMD64 or i386?
[00:04] <holstein> Soviet: that depends on your machine
[00:04] <Soviet> I take it i386 is intel processors?
[00:05] <holstein> and what you chose to install, since you can run 32bit on 64bit machines
[00:05] <Soviet> my machine is 64bit
[00:05] <holstein> Soviet: its a 32bit vs 64bit thing...
[00:05] <Soviet> but the os.. idk
[00:05] <Soviet> I only have the disk beside me lol
[00:05] <holstein> Soviet: OK.. but did you install 32 or 64?.. you can run uname -a
[00:05] <Oer> what is the output of uname -a ?
[00:05] <Soviet> it's not running.
[00:06] <barakisbrown> Q:Installing 11.10, It is froezen during configuring system but the I can access the menus like it is not frozen????
[00:06] <Soviet> Basically what I'm going to do right now is run the livecd, and use it for a while to get used to it.. I'm probably going to install debian later.
[00:06] <holstein> Soviet: ok... when you get it running, thats a way you can confirm, assuming you have not written it on the CD you are referencing
[00:06] <holstein> barakisbrown: not following you
[00:06] <Oer> barakisbrown, frozen ? use alt + tab to see if there is a hidden dialog waiting
[00:07] <barakisbrown> Oer: just the same window
[00:08] <raphael> qut
[00:08] <barakisbrown> holstein: during install where it says configuring system, the cursor is spinning but th progress bar has not moved. I can access the menu bars uptop .. ??
[00:08] <holstein> barakisbrown: i would wait it out a bit, and make sure its frozen...
[00:09] <holstein> barakisbrown: how long?
[00:09] <barakisbrown> holstein: 10mins
[00:09] <ruxkor> hi everybody! I am trying to get a "classic" drag and drop behavior for my new notebook, but I am not able to find anything useful on launchpad or the forums.. does anybody know how I can achieve "normal" drag and drop (meaning I click and hold with the thumb and use eg the index to drag) back to ubuntu oneiric?
[00:09] <Oer> barakisbrown, do you see the HDD led actions ?
[00:09] <holstein> barakisbrown: yeah, depending on the machine, i might wait over 30 minutes
[00:09] <barakisbrown> Oer: not really
[00:10] <holstein> ruxkor: you want something more like gnome2 ?
[00:10] <holstein> ruxkor: you should be able to grab things and drop them where you like
[00:10] <cheako> Any one watching the game?  http://snfallaccess.nbcsports.com/  Looks like it dosn't work under Ubuntu.
[00:10] <ruxkor> holstein: my current touchpad only allows me to double tap+ drop, sort of like a mac does
[00:11] <holstein> ruxkor: thats how it works though, with touchpads.. otherwise, normal clicking will grab things
[00:11] <ruxkor> if I try to do it "the old way" the touchpad misinterprets my slight thumb movements as mouse movements
[00:11] <barakisbrown> Oer: no light moveement at all
[00:11] <ruxkor> holstein: I thought maybe by changing some parameters on synaptics it is possible to define a "click zone", say in the lower 5% of the pad
[00:12] <ruxkor> but I was only able to disable the lower part altogether
[00:12] <holstein> ruxkor: you can do *anything*.. its not easy though... its all text files, and not trivial
[00:13] <Oer> barakisbrown, that sounds bad. did you check the iso with md5sum ?
[00:13] <barakisbrown> Oer: how do I do that?
[00:13] <Oer> !md5sum
[00:13] <Soviet> I don't see karmic on the packages site
[00:13] <ruxkor> holstein: do you have any idea where I could start to look for that? the manpage and the synaptics parameters page don't turn up anything useful at first sight
[00:13] <holstein> Soviet: karmic is not supported any more
[00:14] <holstein> Soviet: im sure if you dig around, you can find packages though
[00:14] <Soviet> Okie, well I have another option
[00:14] <Soviet> I have:
[00:14] <Soviet> kubuntu 10.04 lts
[00:14] <Soviet> that supported?
[00:14] <holstein> LTS's are long term support.. that is still supported
[00:14] <holstein> not that that really matters to you
[00:14] <ruxkor> Soviet: if you need an unsupported version of ubuntu, you could try the deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[00:15] <holstein> you are not going to be pulling in updates over dial up anyways
[00:15] <Soviet> so am I fucked?
[00:15] <Jordan_U> !language | Soviet
[00:15] <Soviet> (´_?`)?
[00:16] <Soviet> >family
[00:16] <Soviet> I lol'd
[00:16] <barakisbrown> Oer: checksum is 62fb5d750c30a27a26d01c5f3d8df459
[00:16] <Oer> Soviet, 10.04 lts is supported, no worrys
[00:16] <holstein> Soviet: you can download the karmic packages where ruxkor suggested, or the official ones for lucid 10.04 where you like
[00:17] <Soviet> Where in this mountain of folders are they located?
[00:17] <milothebuthar> Hey guys, I'm trying to build libmpfr from source (I need the 32-bit version of it and I'm on a 64 bit machine)... the problem is, after I compile I only get the static version of the library (the .la file)... I need the dynamic version (the .so file). How can I achieve that?
[00:17] <holstein> ruxkor: i would maybe even start somewhere like this http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Synaptics_Touchpad
[00:17] <ruxkor> Soviet: the link is the main link that you have to put into your /etc/apt/sources.list, instead of the usual ubuntu ones
[00:17] <barakisbrown> Oer: good iso..md5 matches
[00:18] <Soviet> ruxkor my problem is I can't use internet until I install this package
[00:18] <holstein> Soviet: RIGHT.. you can download them from the internet, and take them over
[00:18] <ruxkor> holstein: thanks, I'll take a look!
[00:18] <Soviet> I'm supposed to download the entire repo on dialup?
[00:18] <barakisbrown> dialup?? whats that??
[00:18] <holstein> Soviet: i was thining just the few packages you need
[00:19] <Soviet> lmao
[00:19] <holstein> thinking*
[00:19] <Soviet> Yeah but where are they :S
[00:19] <holstein> Soviet: what are you looking for?
[00:19] <thetinyj1sus> are you not allowed to have the name jesus cause it seems to change my name all the time
[00:19] <holstein> i would literally just saarch "package name ubuntu version"
[00:19] <Soviet> gnome-ppp + all the dependencies
[00:20] <barakisbrown> holstein: I did make a liveusb from the iso..could it be bad?? What happens if I restart???
[00:21] <holstein> Soviet: for example http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/i386/gnome-ppp/download
[00:21] <holstein> barakisbrown: i would wait...then i would try switching to TTY.. if you are not writing to the hard drive, id say its not going to break anything.. but you never know
[00:21] <ruxkor> Soviet: Try to look at http://packages.ubuntu.com/ to find your exact package names, and then go to the old-releases url/dists/your dist
[00:21] <Soviet> karmic isn't there though.
[00:21] <holstein> i wouldnt expect to salvage the install barakisbrown
[00:21] <Soviet> oh
[00:22] <Soviet> That's going to take even longer.
[00:22] <holstein> Soviet: its not trivial
[00:22] <barakisbrown> holstein: I just want to get it installed..:)
[00:22] <holstein> i would so *anything* to *not* do it this way
[00:22] <holstein> i would borrow a NIC.. a wifi dongle.. go to the coffee shop
[00:22] <holstein> whatever
[00:23] <holstein> barakisbrown: right.. but you are experiencing an error it looks like... you can test your hardware... i also like to see the desktop live before installing
[00:23] <Soviet> what's the packages page for kubuntu then
[00:23] <holstein> Soviet: the same
[00:23] <Soviet> eh?
[00:23] <holstein> kubutnu = ubuntu
[00:23] <Soviet> So what will I need for kubuntu 10.04?
[00:23] <holstein> although, you probably wont want to get gnome-ppp and all the gnome stuff ;)
[00:24] <holstein> Soviet: not sure.. i havent done dial up in years, and never in KDE.. i would ask in #kubuntu
[00:24] <Jordan_U> !offline | Soviet
[00:24] <Soviet> Jordan_U I've seen that over 5 times already.
[00:24] <holstein> yeah, apt-on-CD would be ideal for you... it would be great for later too
[00:24] <Jordan_U> Soviet: Sorry.
[00:24] <mint_> if I create a separate /usr and /usr/local partitions will this backup my applications if I re-install the os. Or will I still have to re-install all applications?
[00:25] <Soviet> holstein I do have another option that I doubt would work.
[00:26] <Soviet> I can connect my win7 laptop to the internet, and plug the ethernet cable into the desktop running ubuntu.
[00:26] <Soviet> And try to share the connection
[00:26] <holstein> Soviet: you could ask in #windows ...i think there is some sort of connection sharing
[00:28] <zacktu> on 11.10 flash has stopped working on both firefox & google-chrome -- appears to be after an update -- what's the fix?
[00:29] <holstein> zacktu: i would try reinstalling.. you can also see about a kernel upgrade incase your graphics are a factor... try booting an older kernel
[00:29] <holstein> zacktu: i mean, reinstalling flash*
[00:29] <Jordan_U> Soviet: You don't need any particular order when installing pacakges with dpkg -i. Just pass all the filenames at once to dpkg -i and dpkg will figure out the order to install them automatically.
[00:30] <holstein> Jordan_U: i think we are now down to what packages are needed :)
[00:30] <Jordan_U> Soviet: I don't know why you were talking about grabbing things from http://packages.ubuntu.com after seeing !offline though. That link gives much easier and better solutions.
[00:31] <Soviet> Jordan_U we found out I have an unsupported version
[00:31] <holstein> yup.. a agree 100%.. for dial up connections, that would save so muh time
[00:31] <Jordan_U> Soviet: I thought you were going to install Ubuntu 10.04, which is supported.
[00:31] <mint_> Do you create swap partition before or after / partition. Does it matter?
[00:31] <Soviet> No, I have kubuntu 10.04
[00:31] <Soviet> I was trying to use ubuntu 9.10
[00:32] <Soviet> I give up.
[00:32] <Jordan_U> Soviet: "Ubuntu" encompasses {K,Ed,L,X,} Ubuntu. 10.04 is supported, no matter what flavor.
[00:33] <holstein> dial up is a drag.. i would probably set up a dedicated machine and set up a router for all the rest of the machines in the house assuming i had to use it
[00:33] <Jordan_U> Soviet: So if you install Kubuntu 10.04 you should be able to use http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/ to grab the packages you need.
[00:33] <helo1> hello
[00:33] <Soviet> Jordan_U is there I way I can download the package and all the dependencies for kubuntu 10.04 without going through each and every file?
[00:33] <holstein> Soviet: no... ecah file *is* the dependancies
[00:33] <mint_> if I create a separate /usr and /usr/local partitions will this backup my applications if I re-install the os. Or will I still have to re-install all applications?
[00:34] <Jordan_U> Soviet: Yes, it's been told to you many times, http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/
[00:34] <Soviet> I mean getting them at once
[00:34] <holstein> seems like you are asking, "can i install all these packages without installing all these packages" Soviet
[00:34] <Soviet> Ok, 10.04 is lucid right?
[00:34] <Jordan_U> Soviet: Yes.
[00:34] <curiousx> Soviet: yep
[00:34] <penguinman1337> could do kubuntu-desktop. that should install all needed deps
[00:34] <Soviet> When I click download it tries to download a .php file :S
[00:34] <curiousx> i using it right now =P
[00:34] <Soviet> seems apache is messed up
[00:35] <holstein> Soviet: downloading from http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/ ?
[00:35] <curiousx> Soviet: why you dont install an updated ubuntu version?
[00:35] <Soviet> yeah
[00:35] <Soviet> the download button at the bottom
[00:35] <Soviet> Because I don't have it
[00:35] <Soviet> I have dialup internet
[00:36] <Jordan_U> Soviet: Don't click Download, click Find.
[00:36] <Soviet> I did. looks like I have to dl them one by one
[00:36] <holstein> http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/?repo=Lucid&arch=i386&package=gnome-ppp&have=
[00:36] <holstein> Soviet: right.. you'll need to aquire the needed packages somehow
[00:36] <Soviet> I'll just go through them all.
[00:36] <Jordan_U> Soviet: Yes, but they're all listed there one after the other. It shouldn't be that hard to click them all.
[00:37] <holstein> yeah, i click them and i get a *.deb
[00:37] <Soviet> God this ordeal made me so frusterd I had to consume more nicotine
[00:38] <Soviet> I think I got this now.
[00:38] <Soviet> I hope so atleast.
[00:38] <holstein> yeah, if you are going to run dial-up.. you must be patient :)
[00:38] <celthunder> Soviet: did you just say you're on dialup?
[00:38] <Soviet> Yes
[00:38] <celthunder> i'm crying for you my friend i really am
[00:39] <Soviet> It's not so bad any more, since I was able to aquire a ton of anime at a friends house.
[00:39] <Soviet> I just watch that now.
[00:39] <Soviet> lol
[00:42] <devildark> ciao
[00:42] <mint_> is 15gb big enough for a / partition
[00:42] <devildark> !list
[00:42] <Gentoo64> mint_, yes
[00:42] <mega73>  mega72
[00:42] <mint_> thanks
[00:43] <helo1> Can someone help me with a script? I need to write a cron job that checks a log file. The log file contains entries from a daemon that is always running and appending the most recent entries to the file. I need a way to parse the log file for just the last minute or two of entries to see if a certain error is repeating. If the error is occurring, then restart the daemon. Please and thanks!
[00:44] <Starcraftmazter> hello, how do i install .deb files in ubuntu now
[00:45] <Gentoo64> Starcraftmazter, double click it?
[00:45] <Starcraftmazter> Gentoo64: it opens it with some sort of archive manager if i do that...
[00:45] <Jordan_U> Starcraftmazter: What exactly are you trying to install?
[00:45] <xangua> Starcraftmazter: double clic, you should preferently install from repositories
[00:45] <Gentoo64> ah i thought it opened with software center
[00:47] <Starcraftmazter> xangua: double clicking does not work
[00:47] <Starcraftmazter> can you give me a shell command
[00:47] <gisli> hi guys, do I need to have /var/tmp available after restart? isn't it enough to just mount it to tmpfs?
[00:47] <Gentoo64> gisli, you could use a tmpfs
[00:50] <gisli> Gentoo64: alright cheers, but what about /var/log? The thing is that I have a SSD as my system-drive and I wanna get rid of the logging write-wear. Is it enough to just copy the /var/log to my HDD, edit fstab so that /var/log  mounts on the HDD and then restart?
[00:50] <WoC> gisli should work, dont forget the permissions
[00:50] <Gentoo64> gisli, you can, but what ssd is it?
[00:50] <WoC> assuming you have enough mem
[00:50] <Gentoo64> you dont need to worry about all that wear stuff on newer ssds
[00:50] <gisli> WoC: permissions?
[00:51] <WoC> tmpfs
[00:51] <Gentoo64> them ssd optimization guides are for older gen
[00:51] <gisli> Gentoo64: mushkin 60gb something
[00:51] <WoC> make sure it sets 1777 for the mounted tmp
[00:51] <gisli> Gentoo64: it's about one years old
[00:51] <Gentoo64> gisli, i wouldnt be so paranoid
[00:51] <WoC> gisli it works for me btw
[00:52] <gisli> WoC: how do I do that? :p
[00:52] <Gentoo64> theyre meant to last like a decade of constant writes
[00:52] <WoC> gisli sec...
[00:52] <gisli> Gentoo64: oh okay, didn't know that :p
[00:52] <Gentoo64> gisli, add mode=1777
[00:52] <Gentoo64> in fstab options line
[00:52] <estudiante> spanish
[00:53] <Gentoo64> eg defaults,noatime,mode=1777
[00:53] <Gentoo64> thats what i use
[00:53] <WoC> right gisli what Gentoo64 said
[00:55] <WoC> Gentoo64 i think i am too, i just cant check it atm
[00:58] <WoC> {Ã,Ã}
[00:58] <gisli> Gentoo64: WoC: so this is right: tmpfs /tmp(and /var/tmp) tmpfs nodev,nosuid,noexec,mode=1777 0 0 ?
[00:59] <WoC> i would put only default,noatime,mode=1777
[00:59] <WoC> err
[00:59] <thetinyjesus> whats good people
[00:59] <WoC> i would put only defaults,noatime,mode=1777
[01:00] <gisli> and /var/log would be something like "/mount/point /var/log ext4 defaults,noatime 0 0" ?
[01:00] <celthunder> thetinyjesus: flesh life time technology
[01:00] <WoC> Yup
[01:00] <gisli> WoC: okay. Saw that other stuff (nosuid,nodev,noexec) in some tutorial
[01:00] <WoC> err
[01:01] <WoC> are you adding it to fstab or mounting manually ?
[01:01] <gisli> I'm adding it to fstab ;)
[01:02] <jeremiah_> Why am i not authorized in pidgin when i am the administrator?
[01:02] <gisli> WoC: I'm adding it to fstab ;)
[01:03] <rebe> Any way to automatically turn off PC when transmission finish downloading all torrents ?
[01:03] <WoC> ok, just making sure
[01:04] <gisli> WoC: why is it bad to use nosuid,nodev,noexec? Just curious
[01:04] <calwig> hi, Ive dl one of the ubuntu DVD distros. Ive got unetbootin. Ive tried installing it into the USB. Its not completed. Is there something else I should do_
[01:04] <WoC> so, just to clarisfy, the line should look something like; tmpfs                   /var/log                    tmpfs   defaults,noatime,mode=1777 0 0
[01:04] <calwig> ?
[01:04] <jeremiah_>  Why am i not authorized in pidgin when i am the administrator?
[01:04] <gisli> WoC: no I'm not mounting /var/log to tmpfs. I'm gonna have that on my hdd. /tmp and /var/tmp are going to tmpfs ;)
[01:04] <WoC> gisli i wouldnt add anything that im not sure of the consequences of
[01:05] <calwig> Its not completed as in, the distro is not completely written to the USB. unetbootin finishes in half a second writing to the USB. Ive downloaded 2 distros. USB is brand new.
[01:05] <WoC> ops
[01:05] <WoC> same thing though, just replace /var/log with the tmp path
[01:06] <gisli> WoC: /var/log would be something like: /home/gisli/data /var/log ext4 defaults,noatime,mode=1777 0 0
[01:07] <gisli> WoC: yeah but I want my logs available after restart ;)
[01:07] <WoC> ok, then you mount it using bind
[01:07] <gisli> WoC: hmmm bind...
[01:08] <WoC> as in mount /home/gisli/data /var/log -o bind
[01:08] <showtime> i installed ts3 on 11.04 and my microphone doesnt work ... what to do ?
[01:09] <WoC> gisli ok ?
[01:09] <gisli> WoC: oh okay...do I just do that now or straight after restart? And will I still have my old logs?
[01:10] <WoC> you can either edit that and add to fstab or just add as is to rc.local
[01:12] <WoC> once mounted /home/gisli/data will have the actuall logs, you might need to restart the syslog to have it log propperly after the mount
[01:13] <WoC> gisli you dont have to restart your computer, you may however need to send a HUP to syslog to have it logging in the new location
[01:14] <gisli> WoC: alright. just put "/home/gisli/.data/logs /var/log bind defaults,noatime,bind 0 0" in fstab and that's it?
[01:14] <gisli> that's very elegant
[01:15] <WoC> gisli try it, i never actually used bind option in fstab
[01:15] <dragancho> Do you guys know how can i give wine access only to C: folder?
[01:16] <sgqnwg> hello 󠁟there.
[01:16] <gisli> WoC: I saw it here: http://nucleussystems.com/blog/mount-dir-bind
[01:16] <AfterDeath> !ops | sgqnwg using xchat exploits
[01:16] <WoC> gisli ah, ok :)
[01:17] <pangolin> sgqnwg: please stop.
[01:17] <WoC> thx gisli :)
[01:18] <WoC> bitchx-1.2c01-svn linux 3.2.4-wotans(wotans) cypress.1.0k stock
[01:18] <gisli> Woc: hehe all the thanks to you ;)
[01:18] <WoC> not a problem, any time
[01:19] <gisli> WoC: but I have to restart to "correct" the /tmp and /var/tmp mounts right?
[01:19] <WoC> i just never took the time to look up the fstab w bind option
[01:19] <WoC> gisli if you are using GUI, that would be the easy way
[01:22] <milothebuthar> How can I install libgcc_s ?
[01:23] <gisli> WoC: yeah, I'm using GUI :p I'll just add the /var/log mount to the fstab and then restart ;)
[01:24] <tiox> OMG
[01:24] <WoC> gisli :) higly recommended, imho
[01:24] <tiox> I just installed zsnes on Ubuntu without the need for hacking around the installing process. Problem is, the installation decided to remove all of my other gaming stuff and my screensaver.
[01:25] <tiox> DAMN YOU UBUNTU!
[01:25] <WoC> whats up tiox ?
[01:25] <tiox> Oh, wrong channel, lol... but you might help.
[01:26] <[[thufir]]> how do I disable the logout beep?   when the system boots, there's a beep for the login prompt.  not the beep after login.
[01:26] <tiox> I am slightly confused as to why I can't have love, electricsheep, mplayer, cutemupen and even the 3D rendering program blender along with zsnes without depends conflicts.
[01:26] <pp7> those things install for most people without a hitch
[01:27] <WoC> any specific conflict ?
[01:27] <tiox> Well, here's a list of packages it decided to remove.
[01:27] <tiox> blender cutemupen dosbox electricsheep gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse joystick libao-common libao-dev libao4 libdevil1c2 libmjpegtools-1.9 libsdl-net1.2 libsdl-sound1.2 libsdl1.2-dev libsdl1.2debian libsdl1.2debian-pulseaudio libsmpeg0 love mplayer mupen64plus mupen64plus-extraplugins ubuntu-desktop
[01:27] <tiox> That's apt doing that.
[01:28] <WoC> hmmm, having a look...
[01:28] <tiox> I think it's partially because I installed ZSNES a different way, using build-depends to kinda cheat around the 64-bit limitation.
[01:28] <tiox> Some stuff from medibuntu is in there too.
[01:29] <tiox> But here is the funny thing. zsnes worked without conflict issues when I did it the non-standard way. So why is it deciding to screw up now?
[01:31] <WoC> tiox have you done a 'apt-get update' lately ? I have both mplayer and blender installed and it didnt show any remove when i ran a simulation
[01:31] <gisli> WoC: I don't have to put
[01:32] <gisli> 'ext4' into that fstab line do I?
[01:32] <tiox> Interesting.
[01:32] <tiox> Yeah, I update every time I add a PPA.
[01:32] <WoC> gisli you shouldnt have to, no
[01:33] <gisli> WoC: alright...thanks for everything ;)
[01:33] <WoC> np gisli
[01:33] <tiox> I'll have to see where zsnes is coming from.
[01:33] <WoC> tiox try 'apt-get -s install zsnes mplayer blender' (simulated install) and see what it says
[01:34] <tiox> Well I reinstalled everything I removed. I'll do just zsnes once I do that.
[01:34] <tiox> finish that rather.
[01:35] <WoC> tiox that emulator any good ?
[01:36] <tiox> It's known for speed, not necessarily for authentic emulation.
[01:36] <WoC> ok, ty
[01:36] <guest_> can someone here possibly help me with an issue in ubuntu?
[01:36] <tiox> Last time ZSNES was updates, DSP4 support was added to run oddball titles like Top Gear 3000
[01:36] <tiox> Also, gere you go.http://paste.ubuntu.com/830846/
[01:36] <WoC> !ask!guest_
[01:37] <tiox> updated*
[01:37] <WoC> !ask|guest_
[01:37] <tiox> I could use bsnes, but knowing zsnes exists on Linux, it was my go-to on Windows.
[01:38] <WoC> k :)
[01:38] <WoC> heh
[01:39] <tiox> I might end up formatting my machine again for 12.04.
[01:39] <tiox> Then I'll have a fresh slate, once again, and lockmyself down to LTS updates only.
[01:40] <guest_> How do I get ubuntu to detect my wireless card on my presario c500? I have no way of conecting to the internet with ubuntu but i can bring files over from another computer.
[01:40] <WoC> tiox, im running the precise, w/o the kernel updates, i make my own, just takes ages on my slow box
[01:41] <Oer> tiox, 12.04 is not released yet, that is maybe why those packages get uninstalled
[01:41] <WoC> guest_ what kind of wifi card is it ?
[01:42] <Peddy> Where can I find documentation for manually adding to the "Recently Used" gnome open dialogue?
[01:42] <tiox> Hmmm.
[01:42] <guest_> My wireless card is a intel pro/wireless 3945abg
[01:42] <WoC> thanks Oer, i didnt even consider that one
[01:43] <WoC> guest_ ok, it should detect that
[01:44] <WoC> guest_ ok, im pretty sure i have that one myself on my laptop
[01:44] <guest_> Well WoC it isnt detecting it what should i do
[01:45] <Oer> Peddy edit the ~/.local/share/recently-used.xbel
[01:46] <Peddy> Thanks Oer. For the record, I found documentation here: http://developer.gnome.org/gtk/2.24/GtkRecentManager.html
[01:46] <open> I've just gotten a virtual image for 12.04 the alpha release. My question is: will it keep receiving updates normally -- that effectively, when the real release is out, I will effectively have had the updates anyway to not have to not get the new image?
[01:46] <bazhang> !final | open
[01:46] <Eruadan> Hello, i used ubuntu lucid as a server. Now i decided to install lucid also, in my local VM, so i have the same system. I installed already the lucid in the vm. Now i just want a basic view, as i want a file manager and a browser there. I decided to install openbox. I installed openbox with sudo  apt-get install openbox, i also updated the system, but i do not have a window after rebooting...I'm sure x was installed as a dependency, what am i missi
[01:46] <Eruadan> ng?
[01:46] <tiox> Yeah, I'll end up doing that. Pidgin's neat about using it with profiles away from homeso I can use it while I wait on the lengthy install procedure to finish.
[01:47] <WoC> guest_ i would try to load the module for it, atm i cant lookup which one it is but google might help
[01:47] <tiox> Or, is it preferable to not do anything as I may risk introducing entropy into the system install, thus messing it up somehow?
[01:47] <xangua> !pangolin | open
[01:48] <guest_> Ok thank you WoC
[01:48] <WoC> np guest_
[01:48] <open> alright, thanks. Why did I get the second !pangolin btw? :)
[01:48] <tiox> xangua: I was asking a general install procedure question.
[01:48] <pangolin> open: because questions about 12.04 should go to #ubuntu+1
[01:48] <tiox> I'm just afraid if I do too much, would entropy corrupt an install?
[01:49] <tiox> Owait nvm
[01:49] <Eruadan> i have lucid inside virtual box. I want a BASIC gui.what do i need other than install openbox?
[01:50] <vlt> Eruadan: lubuntu-desktop, for example
[01:50] <Eruadan> nope, iwant to set openbox in my lucid box
[01:50] <rebe> how do I make my pc automatically turn off when transmission finish download all torrents ?
[01:50] <xangua> then install what you want Eruadan
[01:50] <Eruadan> that's the thing, i installed already openbox
[01:51] <Eruadan> but nothing changed
[01:51] <Eruadan> it did installed x also
[01:52] <Peddy> Is there a "ctrl f" type find function in the man command?
[01:54] <Eruadan> what else do i need to install other than openbox to SEE things?
[01:54] <Eruadan> i don't want all those other things
[01:54] <Eruadan> i just want to see the windows
[01:56] <xangua> Eruadan: did you install a login manager? started it? there are several guides
[01:57] <guest_> Another question, what should i be googling exactly WoC? im not exactly a computer genius
[01:57] <negueba> guys, how can i report a bug?
[01:57] <Eruadan> no, i didn't installed a login manager, that is important
[01:57] <negueba> do i have to own an launchpad account?
[01:58] <pp7> Peddy, use "/"
[01:58] <Peddy> pp7, thanks!
[01:58] <Eruadan> xangua, after installing a login manager, should i be able to see my openbox enviroment?
[02:01] <guest_> How do i install ndiswrapper
[02:02] <Eruadan> how do install slim login manager? sudo apt-get install slim ?
[02:03] <xangua> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerGUI https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems  Eruadan
[02:03] <Eruadan> k, ty
[02:05] <Jimmy__> Out of curiosity, is Ubuntu more battery-efficient vs Windows 7?
[02:07] <mjwalf> anyone here using oracle vm to boot ubuntu?
[02:07] <mufasa> having problems with gnome in 11.10..after i installed and logged out..i logged into gnome and the top bar is yellow and the fonts are messed up
[02:08] <mufasa> umm..that was only half my message lol
[02:08] <xangua> Jimmy__: latest version no because a kernel issue, it's supposed to be fixed on 12.04
[02:08] <Eruadan> rofl, I didn't have xorg installed! omg, someone told me that with apt-get openbox, i would get all the rest, as dependencies, omg...ty for the link ^^
[02:08] <holstein> Jimmy__: i would say, out-of-the-box.. no... likely much less depending on your hardware... with certain hardware it could be much better
[02:08] <xangua> guest_: it's on the ubuntu cd/usb, you can enable the cd from sources
[02:08] <Eruadan> xangua++
[02:08] <mufasa> i installed gnome and when i logged in to gnome the top bar is yellow and fonts are messed up
[02:08] <Jimmy__> I was planning to dual boot after the next LTS is released.
[02:09] <relissa> I have mounted my harddrive and want to copy my mysql database files over to the computer i mounted it on, how ever i can't find /var/lib/mysql where else would mysql files be?
[02:09] <guest_> how do i do that  xangua?
[02:09] <Jimmy__> So when 12.04 is out, battery life should be ______ compared to Windows 7?
[02:10] <xangua> guest_: if you have an ubuntu cd, put it, go to software sources and mark it as source
[02:10] <xangua> Software center - Edit - Sources*
[02:10] <helo1> how can I get the output of the date command into a variable in a script
[02:11] <mufasa> can anyone help with gnome install problem?
[02:12] <holstein> mufasa: thats a config issue i say... you can make a new user, and log in with that account and confirm that.. or you can try reinstalling gnome...
[02:12] <mufasa> all config is defualt..just installed
[02:12] <mufasa> first thing i did was installed gnome
[02:12] <holstein> mufasa: OK
[02:15] <mufasa> just curious...does it have to be gnome 3..can in install gnome 2 instead?
[02:15] <Eruadan> xangua, folllowing the tutorial you gave me, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerGUI , i installed everything, but there's no login manager in here,only xauth,xorg and openbox. why i still cannot see any "window" ?do i still need a login manager?maybe slim?
[02:15] <holstein> mufasa: depends.. if you are 11.10 and above, i believe thats gnome3 in the repos
[02:15] <xangua> Eruadan: xtartx i believe
[02:15] <mufasa> yes it is 11.10
[02:15] <xangua> startx *** sorry
[02:15] <Eruadan> ahh
[02:16] <Eruadan> i see, i need to start x
[02:16] <holstein> mufasa: you cant have both.. you can install what ubuntu has always provided, which is the most current version of gnome at release time
[02:16] <holstein> mufasa: i think most find XFCE to be arguably the most like gnome2
[02:17] <mufasa> what is xfce?
[02:17] <Eruadan> great, i started x
[02:17] <Eruadan> and it works ^^
[02:17] <holstein> mufasa: another desktop environment.. http://www.xfce.org/ .. xubuntu is ubuntu + XFCE
[02:17] <Eruadan> thanks again xangua
[02:18] <xangua> Eruadan: thanks to the ubuntu documentation
[02:18] <mufasa> oh ok
[02:18] <mufasa> thanks for the info
[02:18] <Eruadan> yes, and thanks to you to point it out ^^
[02:18] <Eruadan> actually , the second link you gave me is very outdated
[02:19] <Eruadan> the first one is fine
[02:19] <Eruadan> nice, now i got my x server, with nothing in there,just the way i wanted
[02:24] <Eruadan> xangua, just 1 more question, if you don't mind.Let's say i install a login manager, will xserver start automatically after i login, instead of inserting startx?
[02:25] <Lesterwood> >latest updates
[02:25] <Lesterwood> >41 megabytes
[02:25] <Lesterwood> CANOICAAAAAALLLL
[02:27] <holstein> Eruadan: i would expect to be logged into a session.. a desktop.. otherwise, it would be just a TTY or a terminal window
[02:28] <y2E0> I have to overwrite bash cancel shortcut (cmd+c) because I changed my gui terminal to use this (to make copy n paste) consistent.
[02:29] <nimbiotics> Hello evry1. I want to install the drivers for a printer i've got. Do I have to install both CUPS & LPR drivers? What do CUPS & LPR mean? TIA
[02:29] <Bobenhaus> anyone running android x86?
[02:29] <y2E0> what's android x86?
[02:29] <xangua> !ot | Bobenhaus
[02:29] <Bobenhaus> tablet os
[02:30] <ritz> Bobenhaus, Using Ubuntu on weTab
[02:31] <Bobenhaus> ritz: nice
[02:31] <Bobenhaus> ritz: I'd like to try the tablet version of ubuntu on my tablet
[02:31] <ritz> Bobenhaus, which tablet is this ?
[02:31] <Bobenhaus> Xoom
[02:31] <Bobenhaus> ritz: xoom
[02:32] <indio> Hi. What's the commandline to update Ubuntu like Update manager does?
[02:32] <Bobenhaus> Ritz: I've read somwhere that ubutnu is bringing out a tablet this year or next
[02:32] <xangua> indio: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:33] <y2E0> @Bobenhaus: try #android-x86
[02:33] <ritz> Bobenhaus, no clue, but quick google says http://trsohmers.com/2011/03/06/how-to-run-ubuntu-on-the-motorola-xoom/
[02:33] <y2E0> http://www.android-x86.org/contact
[02:33] <Bobenhaus> ok thanks
[02:33] <indio> xangua: Thanks.
[02:33] <Bobenhaus> brb
[02:33] <ritz> Bobenhaus, hmm, uses chroot, not the best option, imho
[02:35] <prabuvathur> hello all. i am prabuvathur, from indonesia.
[02:37] <y2E0> welcome!
[02:42] <riex> Hello, do somebody know a guide for compile a another kernel for ubuntu 11.10? :)
[02:43] <allenyk> exit
[02:43] <is_null> hello everybody
[02:44] <is_null> i am random
[02:44] <is_null> any ubuntu dev out there ?
[02:44] <irbda> riex: there is a guide for building a linux system from scratch, namely lfs
[02:44] <michaeljones> I am
[02:44] <celltech> 11.04 had edit capabilities in image viewer. How come 11.10 doesn't?
[02:44] <michaeljones> an ubuntu developear
[02:44] <is_null> i want to say i love you os ( i am gentoo/arch ist-)
[02:45] <riexstar> irbda: can you tell me where? :p
[02:45] <werxxx> im tired
[02:45] <is_null> but, for fuch s*ke am i the only one using ubutu /
[02:45] <xangua> !ot | is_null
[02:45] <irbda> irexstar: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[02:47] <is_null> xangua: come on
[02:47] <is_null> i understand rtfm, stfw, etc, when justified
[02:48] <y2E0> whenever I start kde's terminal I'd like to have the command "stty intr \^k" executed.
[02:48] <y2E0> (or write it in an according settings file which I haven't found yet)
[02:48] <y2E0> any idea for that?
[02:50] <is_null> i wonder, is there any user ? network manager is crazy with sim card for example, i've been hoping for fix for months
[02:50] <is_null> but that's not all, systray is a pain, i click "keyboard systray icon" it opens calendar
[02:51] <is_null> i'm really not a troll ask me for as much debug info as you need i will do the effort
[02:52] <is_null> ahi que fem
[02:55] <ritz> y2E0, stick it into bashrc ?
[02:55] <ritz> assuming you are using bash shell
[02:55] <ritz> is_null, heya
[02:56] <ritz> is_null, screenshots /video to help me understand the issue better ?
[02:57] <ritz> y2E0, also, enable login shell option in  konsole
[03:00] <Sach> my laptop plug came out while i had a tomboy note open. I rebooted, and now that note is gone! help please? :s
[03:00] <Bobenhaus> I think the ubuntu 64x link on the website is just a live cd version.  I've already burned 3 cd's and all of them have just booted to live cd without any options to install it
[03:01] <WoC> y2E0 you used kermit alot ?
[03:01] <jrib> Bobenhaus: in the live environment, there is an install option
[03:01] <Bobenhaus> jrib. I see icon on the desktop to install but it never doesn anything
[03:01] <jrib> Bobenhaus: have you run "check the cd for defects" yet?
[03:02] <Bobenhaus> they burn successful
[03:02] <jrib> Bobenhaus: this is not my question
[03:02] <Bobenhaus> jrib: how do you check for defects?
[03:02] <y2E0> WoC: hm what's kermit?
[03:02] <Bobenhaus> Jrib: I've burned fedora 32/64 without any issues
[03:03] <WoC> y2E0 in kermit, you use ^k to abort ;) i was just curios as that is really old ;)
[03:03] <Bobenhaus> maybe my burner is going out?
[03:03] <y2E0> ah, well nope :) I just wanted to make c'n'p consistent through all my system :)
[03:04] <Bobenhaus> brb
[03:04] <y2E0> so i had to remap bash's abort command
[03:04] <WoC> y2E0 ah, ok. :) Neat
[03:04] <ryankey> Bobenhaus: I sometimes have trouble when I burn at max speed (Also, just generally do it half to keep my burner healthy)
[03:04] <y2E0> i started to work on android. It's so beautiful i really want to tweak my ubuntu as well =)
[03:05] <WoC> y2E0 i prolly get one of them in August or so
[03:06] <Sach> my laptop plug came out while i had a tomboy note open. I rebooted, and now that note is gone! help please? :s
[03:07] <y2E0> ritz: .bashrc did the trick for me. thanks a lot!
[03:07] <ritz> y2E0, np :)
[03:08] <y2E0> yap WoC if you're lucky there will be more devices running on 4.0
[03:08] <showtime> bob do you use fedora ?
[03:08] <ritz> Sach, tough luck, try looking through ~/.local/share/tomboy ?
[03:08] <ritz> Sach, do you use Ubuntu One service ?
[03:08] <y2E0> make sure yours will be updated! they really got great magic in there. e.g. it may host usb devices (like cameras)
[03:09] <ritz> showtime,  I do have a fedora box
[03:09] <Sach> ritz, i'm looking in that folder, but how do I open the .not files?  My Tomboy is also not opening when I try to do so.
[03:09] <Sach> Ritz, no, I don't use Ubuntu One.
[03:09] <ritz> Sach, with gedit or any text editor
[03:10] <ritz> Sach, personally, backup and backups or backup
[03:10] <showtime> hm maybe i give fedora a try too soon
[03:10] <alkopop79> hi fellaz
[03:10] <alkopop79> i wonder if you could help me
[03:11] <showtime> but gentoo would be so much more fun ^^ but it takes so much time 8(
[03:11] <alkopop79> i've been trying to install Xilinx's Webpack on 32-bit ubuntu
[03:11] <alkopop79> I managed to untar it
[03:11] <alkopop79> and run the install file called xsetup
[03:12] <alkopop79> but during the install I get the following message:
[03:12] <alkopop79> "Error was encountered while extracting archive /home/alkopop79/Documents/Xilinx/Xilinx_ISE_DS_Lin_13.4_O.87xd.3.0/idata/planahead_0009.zip.xz" Please correct this and then select Retry
[03:12] <ritz> alkopop79,  is that all ?
[03:12] <alkopop79> needless to say, i logged in as admin
[03:12] <alkopop79> and started the install with sudo
[03:12] <ritz> anything logged to terminal ?
[03:13] <alkopop79> that's all
[03:13] <alkopop79> nothing on the terminal
[03:13] <alkopop79> the installer is a graphical app
[03:13] <alkopop79> with window
[03:14] <felchg> help
[03:14] <alkopop79> there's a screenshot I can share
[03:14] <alkopop79> if it helps
[03:14] <alkopop79> does that mean that I don't have permission to install files to that particular folder?
[03:14] <ritz> alkopop79, lets see , but insufficient information
[03:15] <ritz> alkopop79, check the md5 sig of the download ?
[03:15] <ritz> felipe_, with ?
[03:15] <alkopop79> how?
[03:15] <alkopop79> terribly sorry, i have not much experience with linux
[03:16] <ryankey> felipe? You mean felchg ritz?
[03:16] <ritz> alkopop79, did the Xilinx publisher provide any md5/sha1 signature for the download ?
[03:16] <alkopop79> not sure
[03:16] <alkopop79> how can i check that?
[03:16] <ritz> ryankey,  my bad
[03:17] <ritz> autocomplete !
[03:17] <ritz> felipe_, typo there :)
[03:18] <alkopop79> hoc can i check the signature, ritz?
[03:18] <irbda> alkopop79: md5sum
[03:19] <ritz> alkopop79, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[03:19] <Eruadan> but actualyy, after using a bit lxdm core, i don't find it so bad, it's quite light weight actually
[03:19] <Eruadan> lxde*
[03:19] <Sach> is it possible to open a tomboy notes that gives this message: Unexpected error: Error opening file: Input/output error
[03:20] <ryankey> alkopop79, if you're confused on where to find the md5 signatures, they are underneath the download links of the xilinx site
[03:20] <alkopop79> thanks!
[03:20] <WoC> Sach what did you us to open the note ?
[03:20] <alkopop79> yepp,there they are!
[03:21] <alkopop79> so basically I just have to check this number against the output on the terminal
[03:21] <quixotedon> Sach: i haven't experience it as far as i can recall
[03:21] <Sach> alkopop79, well, this particular note is no longer showing when i open tomboy, so i tried opening it in the .local folder with gedit.
[03:22] <riyonuk> Does anyone know if it's possible to install Ubuntu of my MacBook Pro?
[03:22] <WoC> sach, try open a terminal and see if you can open it using less
[03:22] <irbda> riyonuk: using rEFIx
[03:22] <Sach> WoC, can you please explain how I ddo that?
[03:22] <yanick_> hi, I'm using calc (the command line calculator) often from a terminal and I was wondering if PI was predefined in the application?
[03:22] <aBound> riyonuk, How long as it's running the Intel architecture and not the PowerPC arch.
[03:22] <riyonuk> Yeah, but I read that my model isn't supported. That the EFI changed?
[03:23] <WoC> Sach ctl-alt-T will open a terminal
[03:23] <Sach> WoC, yes, but what do you mean by "open it using less" ?
[03:24] <WoC> Sach type; less [filename]
[03:24] <alkopop79> riyonuk, use vmware
[03:24] <alkopop79> it's not free
[03:24] <riyonuk> I don't want to :(
[03:24] <irbda> riyonuk: how about using bootcamp
[03:24] <alkopop79> but much better then virtualbox
[03:24] <riyonuk> Only works with Windows?
[03:24] <alkopop79> dunno
[03:24] <alkopop79> i just like the idea of having linux in a separate window
[03:24] <alkopop79> try it
[03:24] <alkopop79> vmware fusion
[03:25] <irbda> riyonuk: they call it Windows partition, actually you can install linux too
[03:25] <Sach> WoC -- Input/output error
[03:25] <ritz> Eruadan, I found it lacking in few features
[03:25] <ritz> Sach, doubtful , you might need to run fsck on system
[03:25] <WoC> Sach looks like you found a bad block on your media
[03:26] <ritz> WoC,  or a corrupted block
[03:26] <WoC> ritz yup
[03:26] <Eruadan> ritz, what is lacking features?
[03:26] <ritz> Sach, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutoFsck
[03:27] <Eruadan> ahh, lxde
[03:27] <ritz> Sach, ignore this, try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SystemAdministration/Fsck
[03:27] <ritz> Eruadan,  I found it better to stick with Unity/gnome-shell
[03:27] <Eruadan> ritz, what is the command to install LXTerminal ?
[03:27] <Sach> Ritz, will do.
[03:27] <ritz> Eruadan, to multimedia keybindings work in lxde ?
[03:28] <Eruadan> ritz, i'm in a VM, i need a light system
[03:28] <WoC> Eruadan apt-get install lxterminal
[03:28] <Eruadan> not much graphic cards here
[03:28] <Eruadan> ok
[03:28] <ritz> Eruadan, openbox/icewm ?
[03:29] <alkopop79> i did an md5sum
[03:29] <researcher123> the Red Light indicating SYSTEM BUSY keeps glowing quite long.Since this day my pc slowed down.It was much faster earlier.HELP
[03:29] <alkopop79> and got nothing
[03:29] <alkopop79> how's that possible?
[03:30] <alkopop79> hah
[03:30] <WoC> Eruadan WindowMaker ?
[03:30] <alkopop79> just finished
[03:30] <alkopop79> sorry
[03:30] <alkopop79> got the number
[03:30] <FloodBot1> alkopop79: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:30] <Eruadan> yes, i'm making my system ^^
[03:30] <WoC> Eruadan it was my suggestion as for a slim gui
[03:31] <Eruadan> ahh, ok
[03:31] <ritz> researcher123, system busy ? or hard drive busy ?
[03:31] <alkopop79> so, checked the md5sum output and the number found on the Xilinx website and they are identical
[03:32] <Eruadan> WoC, how can i exit the nice lxde desktop and enter the command line?i do not have a cli now
[03:33] <WoC> Eruadan i wish i know too, but try ctrl-alt-backspace
[03:33] <Eruadan> i had the openbox cli, but when i installed lxdm, it installed also lxde desktop, and the cli is gone
[03:33] <DarkStar> hello
[03:33] <Eruadan> WoC, i got it
[03:33] <alkopop79> this is the error I get when installing:
[03:34] <alkopop79> http://paste.ubuntu.com/830921/
[03:34] <DarkStar> installed ms xp then ubuntu 11.04 ontop and now no boot, error says : Grub: no such partition
[03:34] <Sach> Ritz, do you know how to run fsck on a reboot?  The commands on the url you suggested are not working for me.
[03:34] <DarkStar> anyone know an easy fix ?
[03:34] <Eruadan> when i did sudo apt-get install lxdm, it installed everything...what a pita, including gnome stuff o.O.I just wanted a login manger...
[03:34] <Eruadan> display manager*
[03:34] <quixotedon> DarkStar: what do you mean with easy fix?
[03:35] <DarkStar> that doesnt take a ton of repartitioning ect
[03:35] <guest1201> OK. So I have installed ubuntu on my Presario c500. After it has finished it wasnt detecting my wireless card. So i have no way of connecting to the internet from that computer to update and get the drivers. I can however connect to my desktop and download files and bring them over to my laptop via flashdrive. I dont know how to tell what kind of flashdrive i have and i dont know how to install anything using ubuntu, im pretty new w
[03:35] <DarkStar> i grabbed a program called boot repair but no help yet
[03:35] <ritz> Sach, " sudo touch /forcefsck"
[03:35] <Nerdus> Hello all, have a great week
[03:35] <DarkStar> i fired off fixmbr and fixboot off the xp rescue and am running on 11.04 rescure disk atm
[03:36] <guest1201> anyone that has any ideas on what i could do, in depth explanation would be much appreciated
[03:36] <quixotedon> flashdrive is plug n play as well with ubuntu
[03:36] <ritz> alkopop79, does xsetup have any options ?
[03:36] <DarkStar> i guess its due to this laptop or craptops bios limitations, no substatial updates available atm
[03:36] <ritz> alkopop79,  when run from cli ?
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> guest1201: what's your issue. I just breezed in..
[03:37] <WoC> thx Nerdus & u 2 :)
[03:37] <DarkStar> i thought about building a start disk cd maybe to just boot off to start it since im having these mbr er boot issues ?
[03:37] <Eruadan> great, i got lxterminal, ty
[03:38] <guest1201> ActionParsnip: I cant get ubuntu to pick up any wifi networks on my presario c500.
[03:38] <DarkStar> kind of ghetto but i figured it might work or now
[03:38] <DarkStar> action did you try different generic wifi drivers ?
[03:38] <quixotedon> guest1201: do you know the manufacturer of your wifi hardware?
[03:38] <DarkStar> or is that not the problem
[03:38] <quixotedon> guest1201: try generic driver of wifi
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> guest1201: what wifi chip do you use?
[03:39] <guest1201> ActionParsnip: I dont know how to check with ubuntu.
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> guest1201: sudo lshw =C network      what is the product line of the wifi?
[03:40] <DarkStar> man ubuntu really has pushed things along compaired to just a few years ago
[03:40] <guest1201> ActionParsnip: give me a sec to type that in
[03:40] <DarkStar> it really is getting amazing
[03:40] <DarkStar> i think its going to take over soon
[03:40] <DarkStar> its so incredible
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar: it was pretty fast before :)
[03:40] <DarkStar> and actually works most of the time
[03:40] <DarkStar> im talking ease of use ect
[03:40] <Eruadan> what is so amazing????
[03:40] <DarkStar> and cost
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar: its always been easy here... and its always been free
[03:40] <DarkStar> compaired to the other 2 possible os's you could probably go with
[03:41] <DarkStar> im having issues with booting but this laptop is ancient
[03:41] <Eruadan> fuck yeah!ubuntu is the only decent distro around
[03:41] <DarkStar> well i still like other distros
[03:41] <DarkStar> but this one is really getting impressive as far as linux goes
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar: I can name 3
[03:41] <quixotedon> man ubuntu?? what's that?
[03:42] <quixotedon> DarkStar: explain please, mister.. :)
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar: you forgot haiku
[03:42] <DarkStar> from what i know people use either windows, osx or ubuntu
[03:42] <DarkStar> for the most part
[03:42] <DarkStar> the mainstream populous
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar: s/ubuntu/linux
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar: other distros exist dude
[03:42] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: s/linux/gnu\/linux/ :p
[03:42] <DarkStar> ive used several
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: indeed
[03:43] <DarkStar> just saying mainstream iphone junkies
[03:43] <Eruadan> lxde is lovelly for my shity lappy,inside the  virtual box
[03:43] <quixotedon> ActionParsnip: what other distros do you think is most likely to be used?? fedora? openSuse?
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar: hiku exists and has an active community. It was formally BeOS
[03:43] <DarkStar> i spent 20 years on irc and bbs and have agorophobia so ive used a few distros in that time lol
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> quixotedon: whichever the user deems fit for their needs
[03:44] <quixotedon> ActionParsnip: haiku is quite a name, I think I once read about it somewhere
[03:44] <DarkStar> i liked slack, freebsd & redhat but ubuntu is gaining ground as all around great stuff for me
[03:44] <Eruadan> the only distro i could use other than ubuntu, is archlinux, but arch, is really about manual configs, and i don't have the time for that, but i would love to see ubuntu team picking up the good things about arch
[03:44] <WoC> BeOS was pretty neat :)
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> quixotedon: I started on Mandrake and Gentoo. Great days
[03:44] <MK`> I was told Nautilus can be used with an SVN, how can I do this?
[03:44] <quixotedon> DarkStar: despite the success, many don't like the change to unity though
[03:45] <irbda> DarkStar: archlinux is quite good too. I agree with you, ubuntu is very *user-friendly* and it is good for a lazy man like me.
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> quixotedon: you don't have to use unity...
[03:45] <DarkStar> i havent had decent enough hardware to see that yet
[03:45] <quixotedon> ActionParsnip: aaah, mandrake!!! i like that... the first install at my univ though, and also the knoppix that i hung around with :)
[03:45] <Eruadan> it's not only about lazy dude, if you write code, you DON'T have the time to manually setup things...imho, arch, is for doesn't have nothing else to do
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> quixotedon: xpud gets use a lot here too. its snappy
[03:46] <guest1201> ActionParsnip: C556CA: 802.11b/g WLAN
[03:46] <guest1201> ActionParsnip: im not sure if i found the name of that correctly. im not the best when it comes to using the terminal yet
[03:46] <quixotedon> ActionParsnip: and i can't find the reason why people don't like unity, because for a newbie like me, it's just something better than the other two famous OS
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> guest1201: ok, can you give a pastebin of the output of: lspci; lsusb; cat /etc/lsb-release
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> quixotedon: you don't have to use it, people don't like many parts of their OS (I always strip out Firefox), and its all changable
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> quixotedon: You can install xfce4 and use XFCE, there is no unity (by default) in XFCE
[03:48] <guest1201> ActionParsnip: not really a paste, ill have to type everything up, im on two seperate computers so give me a sec :)
[03:48] <quixotedon> ActionParsnip: i have an old pc using pentium 2 back at 'to be thrown away stuff' compartment, any idea on resurrecting it using ubuntu?
[03:48] <MK`> I was told Nautilus can be used with an SVN, how can I do this? Is it integrated or do I need to install a plugin? Which do you guys recommend?
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> guest1201: its gonna be a lot, just grab the lines that relate to the wifi
[03:49] <quixotedon> ActionParsnip: or maybe other distros?
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> quixotedon: Lubuntu maybe, or puppy, slitaz, tinycore, puppy
[03:49] <quixotedon> hmm, quite interesting to try :)
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> MK`: http://code.google.com/p/nautilussvn/   seems to be rabbitvcs now
[03:50] <guest1201> ActionParsnip: would it be the network controller?
[03:50] <Jeremy3D> Having trouble connecting to wifi with Ubuntu 10.04. Can anyone give me a hand?
[03:51] <Jeremy3D> it just keeps searching and asking for the password, which I have correct, but never connects
[03:51] <quixotedon> Jeremy3D: have you ever succeeded doing so?
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> guest1201: yes
[03:51] <Jeremy3D> quixotedon, not on more wireless networks (home, my parents house, etc) but i can connect to one at a mcdonalds. lol
[03:51] <quixotedon> Jeremy3D: what's the message?
[03:52] <Jeremy3D> When I look under the options "Available to all users" isn't checked, so I check it but nothing
[03:52] <zykotick9> MK`: i've certainly never used it, but does ubuntu have "rabbitvcs-nautilus - Nautilus extension for RabbitVCS"?
[03:52] <MK`> Yes, I am going to try it now zykotick9
[03:52] <zykotick9> MK`: sorry VCS vs SVN
[03:52] <guest1201> ActionParsnip:  Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01) and thank you so much for the help
[03:52] <Jeremy3D> quixotedon, there's no message, the little Antennae thing in the top right corner just keeps going on
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> MK`: I don't use it. I just web searched. Call me old fashioned...
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | guest1201
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> guest1201: those are cheap and everywhere. If you get a wired link it will make your life a TONNE easier but it can be done offline
[03:53] <Jeremy3D> quixotedon, i notice when I check the options on my laptop versus my desktop (the laptop is the one not connecting), there's no Device MAC Address. but there is one listed on my desktop settings
[03:54] <willmill> 恩，mountall: Disconnected from Plymouth ……这问题怎么解决？解决经历 ：http://computerscience.blog.163.com/blog/static/174962343201203094828179/ 目前还没解决掉。
[03:54] <quixotedon> Jeremy3D: i have no experience with 10.04, first time using 10.10  til 11.10 now, but i think you should check your wifi hardware
[03:54] <__h__> ?DCC SEND 'STARTKEYLOGGER' 0 0 0
[03:54] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, DON'T click on suspicious links, and type « /msg ubottu exploit » if you want more information.
[03:54] <BPower> Hey all. Can anyone point me in the right direction for this? I want to set up a user that only has access to their own home dir and absolutely nothing else.
[03:54] <guest1201> ActionParsnip: im using a hotspot at an apartment complex. so i have to move downloaded files to my laptop via usb port. is this still possible?
[03:54] <irbda> willmill: 用英文吧! use eng pls!
[03:54] <Jeremy3D> quixotedon, i dont think it's the hardware cause I know i can connect at a mcdonalds wifi with no problem.
[03:54] <willmill> sorry wrong room
[03:54] <Jeremy3D> maybe I'm not signing in as admin or something.  anyone else know?
[03:55] <quixotedon> guest1201: it's still possible
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> guest1201: the install CD can be used to install packages from so you can do it all offline, its just a little harder. The guide shows you what to do. If you can get a wired link you will simply be offeredf the driver
[03:55] <quixotedon> Jeremy3D: try signing as an admin
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: run:  sudo lshw -C network    what is the product line of the device?
[03:55] <Jeremy3D> not sure how. as far as I know there's only one username to sign on in this computer. i'll check though...
[03:56] <quixotedon> guest1201: yeah! i also came up to a suggestion of using wired link first.. :)
[03:56] <Jeremy3D> ActionParsnip, i'll have to look it up, it's a Dell Latitude d500
[03:56] <guest1201> quixotedon: ActionParsnip : The wired link is not an option im afraid ):
[03:57] <Jeremy3D> ActionParsnip, PCI (sysfs)
[03:57] <bc81> hellooo again.  i'm trying to sort out some trouble with permissions when mounting an ext3 formatted USB drive connected to a WDTV Live.  it's my understanding that the share used samba, so is accessing it with cifs causing the permission issues?
[03:57] <quixotedon> guest1201: then, try the cd installation or the flash disk option
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: give it time, your pci bus is slow
[03:57] <Jeremy3D> ActionParsnip, ok it's up. what do you want to know?
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: the product line, just like i said earlier
[03:58] <bc81> or is there some special mount command to make it work with full read/write capabilities?
[03:58] <guest1201> quixotedon: by cd installation, youre refering to the flashdrive/cd i used to install ubuntu 11.10 right?
[03:58] <Jeremy3D> ActionParsnip, oh I see it now : PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adadpter
[03:58] <Julie_> hi
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: ok now you know your wireless chip, you can use that to find guides
[03:58] <Julie_> sorry for my bad english
[03:58] <Julie_> but help
[03:58] <WoC> There used to be a set of tools for using gcc in a cluster like environment, so you could utilize several computers while making your project; such as a kernel compile for a slow computer, does anyone know what it was/is called ?
[03:58] <Jeremy3D> ActionParsnip, very cool.  I'll check do some research
[03:58] <Julie_> I did cut paste on an usb stick and both are missing
[03:59] <Julie_> on home and on stick
[03:59] <Julie_> :(
[03:59] <Julie_> i'm a noobette with ubuntu
[03:59] <Eruadan> how do i install kate text editior?
[03:59] <Eruadan> apt-get install kate?
[03:59] <WoC> Eruadan yes
[03:59] <quixotedon> Julie_: try it with another file, does it happen again?
[03:59] <Julie_> I did try foremodt
[03:59] <ActionParsnip> Eruadan: prefix with sudo
[04:00] <Eruadan> sure, sudo
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> Eruadan: its an admin task, so needs sudo
[04:00] <Jeremy3D> ActionParsnip, how do I know for sure if I am logged in as Administrator to Ubuntu?  There's only one login and I'm guessing it's Admin but it's named jeremy
[04:00] <Julie_> quixotedon: i cant open my usb stick on ubuntu
[04:00] <Bruce> does anyone know how to fix a tomboy note that wont open?
[04:00] <Julie_> but on w$
[04:00] <WoC> !sudo|Jeremy3D
[04:01] <quixotedon> Jeremy3D: check user account
[04:01] <vjacob> anyone here find an alternative to Evernote other than NixNote?
[04:01] <Julie_> how do i try to recover my lost file :( :( :( :( :(
[04:01] <guest1201> ActionParsnip: ok so i clicked on oneiric 11.10, do i click the network tab next?
[04:02] <Tynach> Hi, in Unity 2D, my settings have gotten screwed up. I only have one virtual desktop - how do I change this?
[04:02] <Tynach> Using 11.10 here.
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> guest1201: read the guide.
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> Tynach: install compizconfig-settings-manager
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> Tynach: and under gereneral you can set the desktop size
[04:03] <Tynach> ActionParsnip, this is Unity 2D, not Unity.
[04:03] <Tynach> Unity is a compiz plugin, and thus has it's settings controlled through Compiz.
[04:03] <Tynach> However, Unity 2D is not.
[04:04] <Tynach> ActionParsnip, I was hoping to find some setting in either gconf or dconf, but I've not found it thus far.
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> Tynach: i believe it uses the same config in parts, worth trying
[04:06] <Tynach> ActionParsnip, I just tried. Desktop config in Compiz is 2x2, with 4 total.
[04:06] <Tynach> No change in behavior.
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> Tynach: gah
[04:07] <Tynach> Is multiple desktops handled by Metacity in Unity 2D?
[04:07] <Tynach> Or is it handled by the QT thingy they did?
[04:09] <Tynach> Ok, fixed it.
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> Tynach: there used to be an app on the panel to manage it. Not sure how its handled in Unity
[04:10] <zykotick9> Tynach: nautilus actually managed the desktop
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> Tynach: what was the magic bullet?
[04:10] <zykotick9> Tynach: SORRY i'm not sure that's try in unity!!
[04:10] <Tynach> I found a key for "num_workspaces" in "/apps/metacity/general" using gconf-editor.
[04:10] <guest1201> ActionParsnip: Its telling me to download drivers from maverick for ubuntu 11.10 im really lost haha
[04:10] <Tynach> And that worked.
[04:10] <BPower> How can I create an sftp user that has access only to a specific dir and not anything else?
[04:11] <Tynach> So, ActionParsnip, zykotick9, it seems Metacity holds the number of desktops setting.
[04:11] <Tynach> See ya later!
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> Tynach: strange
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> Tynach: glad you got the gold
[04:11] <Tynach> ActionParsnip, it's not strange really. It's the window manager, controls where windows on the desktop go - you can put windows on different desktops, so it makes sense for it to control it. I just skipped over that key before because it was labeled 'workspaces' instead of 'desktops'.
[04:12] <Tynach> Later, all!
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> BPower: it will get the access like a local user on the system, so you can give it access via the standard linux groups
[04:13] <Bruce> does anyone know how to fix a tomboy note that wont open?
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> Bruce: can you delete it?
[04:14] <konam> which grep command can i use to search for a especific string of characters in all files of a directory?
[04:14] <Bruce> actionParsnip, no I need it.  Problem started when I was typing the note, then had a power failure for 5 mins.
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> konam: grep -i -r string /path/to/search
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> konam: sorry, -R   capital
[04:17] <irbda> Bruce: how about this http://askubuntu.com/questions/27088/tomboy-wont-start. Maybe google it is better. Someone said "Yep, that worked!" in the link
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> konam: if there is a lot of data to search, it will take a long time
[04:18] <Al_nz1> anyone able to help me? after a reboot I am stuck at initramfs prompt!
[04:18] <konam> ActionParsnip so i see
[04:18] <Al_nz1> hey ActionParsnip
[04:18] <konam> ActionParsnip thanks, it really helps
[04:19] <konam> ActionParsnip it seems to have worked with lowercase -r
[04:19] <Jeremy3D> i've been searching for an answer with no luck. can anyone else gimme a hand connectina  Dell Latitude d500 wirelessly on Ubuntu 11.04 ?
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> konam: -R, -r, --recursive
[04:20] <groYen> irssi: /connect irc.flashback.org 6697 lösenord användarnamn
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> konam: seems both are ok ;)
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: what is the wireless chip please
[04:21] <Jeremy3D> ActionParsnip, PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adadpter
[04:21] <konam> there are a lot of files to be searched... at this rate maybe tomorrow i will be getting an answer :(
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: thanks (my client holds few lines)
[04:22] <Al_nz1> What you been up to ActionParsnip?>
[04:22] <DrPainz> exit
[04:22] <Jeremy3D> ActionParsnip, it's ok. i saw some posts but nothing they are talking about seems to be working on my end
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: if you run:  sudo rfkill list   is it blocked in any way?
[04:22] <Jeremy3D> no on both
[04:23] <DrPainz> hello
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: ok do you have a switch or shortcut to enable / disable wifi?
[04:24] <DrPainz> I'm new to Ubuntu, just installed it yesterday and I am trying to get used to it
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: Fn+F2
[04:24] <Jeremy3D> when I click on the network icon in the top right hand corner, I can enable and disable wireless
[04:25] <Jeremy3D> ActionParsnip, yea that does the same thing. it's on
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: if you run:  sudo iwlist scan     do you see access points?
[04:25] <Sach> how do i edit the permissions of a file to 'read and write'? It doesn't let me. Can i do so as sudo?
[04:26] <DrPainz> does anyone have an excellent online tutorial/website to get the most out of ubuntu?  I really don't know where to start, especially in the terminal
[04:26] <DrPainz> like I don't know what the commands mean (i.e. sudo, etc)
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> DrPainz: i suggest you just use the OS, you'll learn just like you learned windows
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> !manual | DrPainz there is this
[04:27] <Jeremy3D> ActionParsnip,  lo Interface doesn't support scanning.  eth0 Interface doesn't support scanning.  eth1 Scan completed: Home (which is my access point)
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> DrPainz: I wouldn't get bogged down with what commands mean til you use/need them
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: bingo, your wifi is picking up as eth1, network manager expects wlan0
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: get a wired connection, install wicd and uninstall network manager then reboot
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: the driver is working or you wouldn't see the SSID :)
[04:28] <Sach> how do i edit the permissions of a file to 'read and write'? It doesn't let me. Can i do so as sudo?
[04:28] <DrPainz> well, I'm an advanced user with windows, know Mac somewhat... but wanted to familiarize myself with linux stuff, since I'd like to be a network director somedays and found out linux is best for running networks and stuff
[04:28] <irbda> DrPainz: Don't miss the "Ubuntu Software Center" to install any programs you are interested. :-)
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> Sach: if you want write access run:  gksudo gedit filename    for a text file (for example)
[04:29] <Jeremy3D> ActionParsnip, sweet. do you have info on installing wicd
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> DrPainz: 'advanced user'? Do you manage data centres and such?
[04:29] <Al_nz1> errm: http://pastebin.com/vhvT2vja - help pls
[04:29] <Jeremy3D> nevermind found it
[04:29] <Sach> ActionPArsnip, so the location of the file doesnt matter for that command?
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: use software centre
[04:29] <Jeremy3D> k
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> Sach: yes, you type the full path, or if the terminal is in the same folder you can just name it
[04:30] <DrPainz> I'm not sure what you mean ActionParsnip
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> DrPainz: just curious of your 'advanced user' of windows claim..
[04:31] <numpy> been a while since I have used ATI cards.. is the fglrx driver stable now?
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: wicd is a lot more flexible than network manager, so you can tell it to use eth1 as wifi and it will happen
[04:31] <DrPainz> ehh... I'm just really awesome with Windows is all I meant haha
[04:32] <DrPainz> I'm the guy a lot of people turn to when they have a computer or network problem in this area
[04:32] <irbda> ActionParsnip: I'm an advanced windows user too from the period of win3.1 to win2k  :D
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> DrPainz: probably desktop, if you saw what we do where I work you'd think twice ;)
[04:32] <DrPainz> what did you mean by data centres?
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> DrPainz: huge building with racks of servers all working together
[04:33] <DrPainz> oh when I was in college we've had projects like that.  I did assist in the building of a mini-supercomputer, consisted of like like 5 or 10 computers in a small room
[04:34] <drommy> Hi on boot i get hung up on the purple boot screen and in the log it says something along the lines of "pulse audio saned"? Could someone please help me?
[04:34] <drommy> im using latest ubuntu from usb
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> DrPainz: as you use the ubuntu OS you will learn, just get used to how things work for now then start trying to configure services and such and you will learn more
[04:34] <drommy> liveos
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> drommy: what GPU do you use?
[04:35] <drommy> nvidia 6800gt
[04:35] <DrPainz> ok.  Thanks.  I'll be sure to come back more when I can.  I gotta get to bed now though
[04:35] <DrPainz> I'll talk with you later
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> drommy: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[04:35] <DrPainz> you come in here often?
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> DrPainz: quite a bit
[04:35] <drommy> how do i add bootoptions?
[04:35] <Julie_> I did cut paste on an usb stick and both are missing
[04:35] <Julie_> help
[04:35] <DrPainz> ActionParsnip: then I'll see you around sometimes haha
[04:35] <DrPainz> take it easy
[04:36] <drommy> How do I enter boot commands on latest Ubuntu? From usb.
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | drommy
[04:41] <SleepingPrgmr> Hi, I'm trying to install Oracle Java and I need some help
[04:41] <lahwran> is there a packet sniffer tool that will play raw network data as audio?
[04:41] <lahwran> !ask | SleepingPrgmr
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> lahwran: you could cat eth0 to the sound device
[04:44] <lahwran> can you cat eth0?
[04:44] <lahwran> I wasn't aware that it was that simple
[04:44] <LoRez> how does one keep ubuntu from automounting a specific filesystem with a known UUID?
[04:44] <irbda> lahwran: it's..... wried ...  play raw network data as audio .... What can be heard?
[04:45] <franz`> is there a way to recover your password with a id_rsa file? I set password-less ssh login a while ago, and don't remember my password anymore. ubuntu server
[04:45] <SleepingPrgmr> I'm trying to install Oracle Java 6 and I''m following this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java help documentation here by using the manual method which is linked here http://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/java.  It seems to have worked correctly and I can type "java" in the bash shell but some of my programs which says I need something called JAVA_HOME set and I'm not sure what that may mean.
[04:45] <lahwran> irbda: it'd be fuzz, for the most part
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> lahwran: cat /dev/eth0 > /dev/dsp    maybe
[04:45] <lahwran> ActionParsnip: network devices are not files
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> lahwran: in Linux, EVERYTING is a file
[04:45] <lahwran> they're the only device that is an exception to that rule
[04:45] <lahwran> look it up
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> lahwran: take your pick: http://duckduckgo.com/?q=in+Linux+everyting+is+a+file&kl=uk-en&kp=1
[04:46] <earspliT> its a lil more complicated then that
[04:46] <earspliT> depends on how you want to hear the sound
[04:46] <earspliT> you'd have to set the bit rate and sample size and such to match up
[04:47] <lahwran> ActionParsnip: http://www.unix.com/linux/106401-do-linux-have-device-file-ethernet-card.html
[04:48] <haylo> cat eth0 | clementine is what i use
[04:48] <lahwran> earspliT: 22050hz sample rate, one-byte samples
[04:48] <guest1201> ActionParsnip: Hey their again, sorry if im becoming a little annoying with this. do you think you can tell me how to install a deb file from the terminal, since when i try to double click it the install button is greyed out
[04:48] <lahwran> earspliT: simple enough, yes?
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> guest1201: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> haylo: thanks :)
[04:49] <haylo> ActionParsnip, :D
[04:49] <guest1201> ActionParsnip: thank you
[04:49] <haylo> ActionParsnip, can he type gdebi *filename ?
[04:49] <Ben64> guest1201: what are you installing? certain things can be dangerous
[04:49] <ActionParsnip> haylo: not sure, i've always used dpkg
[04:50] <haylo> ok i should try that
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> guest1201: I suggest you run:  sudo apt-get -f install      to pull in deps if needed
[04:50] <haylo> dpkg is what gdebi is built from i guess
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> haylo: makes sense
[04:50] <earspliT> lahwran: depends on what the data file looks like lolol
[04:51] <lahwran> there's no possible data file that wouldn't play represented like that :|
[04:51] <earspliT> lahwran: i've never tried it with binary data before, but if you could get the data into a buffer of some sort it would work
[04:52] <earspliT> basically, take incoming wireless data and set a word boundary
[04:52] <earspliT> its a stupid idea to begin with
[04:52] <haylo> yes
[04:52] <lahwran> yeah okay fine
[04:52] <earspliT> and would take some time coding the alsa API
[04:52] <lahwran> it will just sound like white noise
[04:52] <earspliT> exactly
[04:52] <earspliT> that IS all it is
[04:52] <haylo> yes with a billion possibilties of nothing
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> lahwran: yes but thats what my command does, which is what you asked for and why I gave it
[04:53] <earspliT> you might as well just play /dev/random
[04:53] <lahwran> ActionParsnip: no, it doesn't! did you try it? there is no "eth0" file!
[04:53] <lahwran> and there never was and likely never will be
[04:53] <guest1201> ActionParsnip: it just redirects me to the software center with the greyed out install button.
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> lahwran: then see what device name that references and use that
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> guest1201: software centre won't get called with the dpkg command
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> guest1201: sounds like you double clicked the file
[04:54] <lahwran> for the last time, there isn't an eth0 device. if I was writing it myself I'd have to grab some packet sniffing code from somewhere and use that to get the data
[04:54] <lahwran> I was hoping someone else had already written it because it's an interesting curiosity
[04:54] <haylo> ActionParsnip, he can install it through that
[04:55] <haylo> guest1201,
[04:55] <haylo> does it say "install"
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> haylo: indeed but user wanted to instal the deb in terminal :)
[04:55] <xxOGATAIxx> hello
[04:55] <haylo> sry ActionParsnip i am forgetting but still talking
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> haylo: its all good dude
[04:59] <xxOGATAIxx> i'm not really sure how this works, but, i got a question... is there a channel for lxde?
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> xxOGATAIxx: you can ask here :)
[05:00] <xxOGATAIxx> :) thanks
[05:02] <xxOGATAIxx> i've been looking for a global menu app in lxde... i actually found one, in *.tar.gz package... i used alien and turned it into a *.deb and installed it with GDebi (because ./configure didn't run)... but now i can't use it, it doesn't appear in the "add elements" part of the panel
[05:02] <earspliT> irc.ofdc.net #lxde
[05:02] <earspliT> ^^^thats the primary channel
[05:02] <earspliT> but there's one here too under just #lxde
[05:03] <xxOGATAIxx> thanks earsplit, i'll give it a try
[05:03] <earspliT> *oftc
[05:03] <earspliT> not dc
[05:03] <earspliT> tc
[05:03] <earspliT> sorry
[05:03] <FloodBot1> earspliT: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:03] <xxOGATAIxx> ok
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> xxOGATAIxx: if you want to edit the menu, just manipulate the files in /usr/share/applications
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> xxOGATAIxx: I believe alacarte will do it too
[05:05] <ActionParsnip> xxOGATAIxx: could also ask in #lubuntu
[05:05] <xxOGATAIxx> i'll investigate alacarte... thanks
[05:05] <addy476> hello
[05:05] <addy476> damo22; are u there
[05:06] <damo22> addy476: yes
[05:06] <addy476> hello
[05:06] <addy476> oh thanks
[05:06] <Braden`> Hello
[05:06] <addy476> demo:remember me i ask to solve my problem last day and u suggest me to download a new version
[05:06] <Braden`> I installed the zentyal package, but when I browse to it using my browser it just has four green boxes.  Where do I configure it via the console?
[05:06] <damo22> addy476: yes
[05:07] <damo22> addy476: did you install a new version?
[05:07] <addy476> damo: i download ubuntu 11.10 desktop
[05:07] <damo22> addy476: so what is the problem?
[05:07] <addy476> demo:please can u tell me about that when i m install it it show 4 option
[05:08] <damo22> addy476: do you want to lose all your data on the pc?
[05:08] <addy476> demo: 1 install along with 8.10,2:upgrade software update
[05:08] <addy476> demo:no actually i have 2 problem 1 i want to keep all my data which one is in 1 drive
[05:09] <damo22> addy476: can you remove the drive physically from the machine that you want to save the data?
[05:09] <addy476> demo:and 2 i have last time wrong partion so 100 gb space is unoccupied and it can no resolve
[05:09] <ActionParsnip> addy476: why do you not have a backup system in place?
[05:09] <addy476> tell me what i do to
[05:10] <addy476> action:mean?i m not familer with it
[05:10] <damo22> addy476: you need to backup everything always
[05:10] <gordon1234> Hi, just downgraded from Ubuntu 11.10 to lubuntu 11.10 ... trying to use Sylpheed instead of Thunderbird ... can it use Google Contacts and Google Calendar? (sorry, but nobody on #lubuntu at the moment)
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> addy476: you should occasionally take a copy of your data so in the event of a catastrophe you can restore your data
[05:10] <addy476> demo:are u want to say to keep extra copy of it
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> gordon1234: how is changing the desktop a downgrade?
[05:10] <harsh343> how to make ubuntu wifi, i am using net connect and i want to make my system wi fi please help me
[05:11] <damo22> addy476: yes
[05:11] <harsh343> i am using ubuntu 11.10
[05:11] <addy476> action:catastrophe==?
[05:11] <haylo> please help me
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> addy476: bad things happening to the system like drive failure
[05:11] <damo22> addy476: if the drive fails what will you do
[05:11] <addy476> damo:but it is some movie and some software
[05:11] <xxOGATAIxx> nobody answers in #lxde...
[05:11] <harsh343> I want to share my internet connection to other dekstop
[05:11] <damo22> addy476: is the data important to you? if yes then always have  a backup
[05:11] <addy476> damo:action:please now tell me which option to select
[05:11] <harsh343> what i can do ?
[05:12] <gordon1234> ActionParsnip ... sorry, bad choice of words! Was having performance issues on a low spec laptop with Ubuntu 11.10, so wanted to try different desktop
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> gordon1234: LXDE is the awesome :)
[05:12] <addy476> damo:is i secect manually install then i don't know which partion to how much
[05:13] <xxOGATAIxx> do you know how to get globalmenu on lxde? is the faster desktop, & i want the global menu app
[05:13] <gordon1234> ActionParsnip: Agreed ... very impressed so far, and so fast
[05:14] <holaa> hola
[05:14] <xxOGATAIxx> hola
[05:14] <thetinyjesus> ello
[05:14] <haylo> ello mate
[05:14] <thetinyjesus> are you guys getting used to unity yet?
[05:14] <werder> harsh343: do you mean that you have an ethernet connection and you want to broadcast a wireless network for other computers to connect to?
[05:15] <haylo> i have been using it for months
[05:15] <haylo> i love it
[05:15] <thetinyjesus> just a few days for me, im starting to like it
[05:15] <EvilResistance> thetinyjesus, many of us have gotten used to unity.  those that refuse to like unity use gnome-shell or the non-unity stuff.  Or in my case, KDE xD
[05:15] <haylo> got my purple side bar
[05:15] <harsh343> werder, i have net connect usb and i want to share internet on another computer
[05:16] <thetinyjesus> EvilResistance: yeah, i looked up gnome 3 it seemed to be more of the same as unity, and kde wasn't my flavor so just going to stick with it. everything seems to be running fine
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: its fine here
[05:16] <werder> harsh343: do both computers have wireless cards?
[05:16] <xxOGATAIxx> i used lxde beacuse of memory... but also xfce...
[05:16] <EvilResistance> thetinyjesus, i should mention i'm still on 11.04 xD
[05:16] <harsh343> werder, no but connected with lans
[05:16] <Jeremy3D> ActionParsnip, got wicd. tried connecting to network and says Bad Password, yet I know it's the right password and can verify with desktop. any ideas?
[05:16] <EvilResistance> thetinyjesus, i am waiting for the LTS since when the LTS comes out i'm replacing this hard drive xD
[05:16] <werder> harsh343: that makes things trickier
[05:17] <werder> harsh343: are they ethernet lan?
[05:17] <harsh343> yes
[05:17] <thetinyjesus> EvilResistance: lol im actually pretty new to linux i dont have that much experience
[05:18] <aBound> thetinyjesus, LTS stands for Long-Term Support.
[05:18] <EvilResistance> ^ that
[05:18] <thetinyjesus> EvilResistance: any idea how smooth it is upgrading from one linux distro to a newer
[05:18] <thetinyjesus> aBound: yeah i know LTS, i just always like new things
[05:18] <EvilResistance> thetinyjesus, do you want the noobish answer, or the "Technician's Recommendation of Clean Install vs. Upgraded Install As It Pertains to Ubuntu Linux"?
[05:19] <aBound> I'd prefer a clean install less chance of anything that goes wrong.
[05:19] <EvilResistance> ^ that
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: not sure dude, what encryption do you use?
[05:20] <thetinyjesus> so is it a good thing that I partioned my HD windows 7/Ubuntu/ Media?
[05:20] <Jeremy3D> wpa2
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> thallada: its one way
[05:20] <Jeremy3D> i believe
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: can your wifi chip connect to that under Linux?
[05:20] <werder> harsh343: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[05:20] <thetinyjesus> I know i'll be able to save my video/music etc, but when I reinstall ubuntu will i loose all my customization and settings or is there a way to keep it
[05:20] <sherl0ck> whats the average salary of a linux administrator?
[05:21] <harsh343> werder, 11.10
[05:21] <EvilResistance> thetinyjesus, i have something similar to that, except on my system its: WinServer2k8R2 / Ubuntu / RHEL6
[05:21] <cfhowlett> !ot|sherl0ck
[05:21] <sherl0ck> 10-4
[05:21] <dill> i am having trouble with wifi
[05:21] <haylo> did you restart it?
[05:22] <dill> whats that ?
[05:22] <thetinyjesus> EvilResistance: how did you get that many? when i first tried installing linux, i lost everything because samsung partitions their drives 4 times to have a recovery partition and i couldn't just get rid of it
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: if you backup the hidden files in your home folder you can restore them
[05:22] <dill> can someone help
[05:22] <thetinyjesus> ActionParsnip: the ones that are usually like .weechat etc in the usr/lib ?
[05:23] <EvilResistance> thetinyjesus, (1) I'm an IT technician, so I have clean, unpartitioned OEM hard drives.  (2) I manually partition my hard drive when I install OSes
[05:23] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: that sort of thing, yes
[05:23] <Jeremy3D> ActionParsnip, lookin it up
[05:23] <dill> network manager states there are no devices avaible
[05:23] <savantelite> * For each "Release" and "ARCH" Copy vmlinuz and initrd.img from /images/pxeboot/ directory on "disc 1" of that $Release/$ARCH to /tftpboot/images/centos/$ARCH/$RELEASE
[05:24] <thetinyjesus> EvilResistance: yeah my friend gave me his win 7 disk, manually did everything installed win/linux mint decided i wanted ubuntu so redid that partiton etc. im not a IT or anything but i can usually make my way around a computer
[05:24] <EvilResistance> yep
[05:24] <werder> harsh343: so this is a good link, but the application for modifying network connections is slightly different in 11.10http://www.opensourceisbetter.com/sharing-internet-connection-trough-ethernet-card-ubuntu/
[05:24] <dill> hello
[05:24] <EvilResistance> !patience | dill
[05:24] <thetinyjesus> ActionParsnip: do you know a website that will let me know exactly which directories need to be backed up?
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: depends what apps you want the config backing up of. I'd just backup the entirety of your home folder
[05:27] <SleepingPrgmr> sleep
[05:27] <SleepingPrgmr> oops
[05:29] <groYen> join #Flashback @irc.flashbak.org
[05:30] <EvilResistance> groYen, you shouldnt advertise channels or other IRC nets in here randomly...
[05:33] <samrat> I'm trying to save battery. I'm using wi-fi but not ethernet but powertop shows be that eth0 is taking up some battery too. Can I shut the Ethernet card off?
[05:35] <werder> samrat: try 'sudo ifconfig eth0 down'
[05:37] <groYen> ~eckers@user-1120tm8.dsl.mindspring.com
[05:37] <dill> i am having troubles with a broadcom network contorler bus id is 14e4 4358
[05:38] <groYen> Grojen
[05:38] <theadmin> dill: Do you have a wired connection available? If so, open "Hardware Drivers" and install the proper driver from there
[05:38] <samrat> werder: thanks. Also, there seems to be a "Radio device(iwlagn)" running. Any idea what it is?
[05:38] <Braden`> I installed the zentyal package, but when I browse to it using my browser it just has four green boxes.  Where do I configure it via the console?
[05:38] <theadmin> !info zentyal
[05:39] <dill> hold on
[05:39] <theadmin> Braden`: What's that? Doesn't seem to be anything from our repos
[05:39] <groYen> ~eckers@user-1120tm8.dsl.mindspring.com
[05:39] <theadmin> groYen: Stop that.
[05:40] <theadmin> samrat: A radio device is wi-fi
[05:40] <theadmin> samrat: "iwlagn" is your wireless driver
[05:40] <samrat> theadmin: wlan0 and "radio device" both are running, is that normal?
[05:40] <theadmin> samrat: Yeah I think so
[05:41] <[[thufir]]> how do I set the colors/prefs for xterm?  *not* using gnome-terminal or equivalent, but xterm.
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> [[thufir]]: look into the PS1 variable
[05:41] <samrat> theadmin: thanks, i was wondering because my laptop also has Intel MyWifi (which makes my laptop the wifi hotspot)
[05:42] <theadmin> samrat: Ah, it could be that actually
[05:43] <[[thufir]]> hmm.  instead of using xterm, how can you use emacs from gnome-terminal?  there's a problem where alt is tied to the window, rather than being an emacs command.
[05:44] <KuntSlime> What would Barack Obama's diarrhea taste like?
[05:44] <Braden`> zentyal = ebox
[05:44] <Braden`> ebox is just the old name
[05:44] <speak> [[thufir]] You can disable alt+... keyboard shortcuts in the Gnome terminal options
[05:44] <Braden`> the ebox package is in the ubuntu repos
[05:45] <[[thufir]]> speak: ah, thanks.
[05:45] <dill> it says no devices avaible
[05:46] <speak> [[thufir]] no problem
[05:46] <dill> so i cant connect via lan
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> [[thufir]]: if you use terminal alot, try guake / tilda
[05:47] <[[thufir]]> I like the look of gnome-terminal, and can't get xterm or windows emacs to look like that.   I'll look into those others. I'm thinking of switching to emacs.
[05:48] <nagarajan> unbuntu
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> [[thufir]]: guake hides and shows on a keypress like the console in Quake, wolfenstein etc
[05:48] <nagarajan> hi there
[05:48] <nagarajan> at ubuntu
[05:49] <nagarajan> Is there at some one at UBUNTU
[05:49] <cfhowlett> nagarajan: greetigns
[05:50] <nagarajan> I need help on UBUNTU
[05:50] <cfhowlett> !ask|nagarajan
[05:51] <dill> iwconfig yeilds lo no wireless extensions
[05:51] <nagarajan> I could not use GTALK voice chat with EMPATHY
[05:52] <nagarajan> Is there any other voip is suitable to UBUNTU
[05:52] <[[thufir]]> I use skype.
[05:52] <cfhowlett> !ekiga|nagarajan
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> nagarajan: pidgin will do it
[05:53] <theadmin> nagarajan: Stop screaming. Empathy does not support voice chat over Jabber if I recall right. I can't really recall any clients which do, but I think Pidgin could at some point
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> http://lifehacker.com/5340632/pidgin-26-adds-google-talk-video-and-voice-support
[05:54] <nagarajan> EKIGA supports GTALK
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> nagarajan: why the caps??
[05:54] <nagarajan> EKIGA supports GTALK????
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> nagarajan: what does it achieve?
[05:55] <theadmin> nagarajan: Stop screaming. And no, Ekiga is for SIP.
[05:55] <nagarajan> which supports gtalk????
[05:56] <thetinyjesus> anyone know how to get aspell working in weechat?
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> nagarajan: pidgin, like I said.
[05:56] <nagarajan> ok
[05:56] <nagarajan> trhank u
[05:56] <cfhowlett> nagarajan: gtalk doesn't seem to be supported on ubuntu.  You might want to direct queries directly to them
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> nagarajan: why ask a question if you won't read the replies?
[05:57] <theadmin> cfhowlett: Gtalk is Jabber. It's supported very well.
[05:57] <Jeremy3D> dang ActionParsnip thought i was getting closer but no luck. wicd returning Bad Password error and none of the fixes online seem to help
[05:57] <theadmin> thetinyjesus: Um, aspell is a GUI library thing, it won't work in console apps, sorry
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: if you try with no encryption, does it connect?
[05:57] <Jeremy3D> ActionParsnip,  i've uninstalled network-manager and network-manager-gnome to my knowledge
[05:57] <cfhowlett> theadmin: aaargh.  I'm obviously not up on the nomenclatures, am I?
[05:57] <theadmin> cfhowlett: :P Yep.
[05:58] <Jeremy3D> ActionParsnip, you mean removing encryption thru the router?
[05:58] <ganesh_ariveguru> :3
[05:58] <ganesh_ariveguru> ;3
[05:59] <ganesh_ariveguru> :)
[06:00] <theadmin> ganesh_ariveguru: Stop this
[06:00] <ganesh_ariveguru> sorry i just tried some smileys
[06:01] <theadmin> ganesh_ariveguru: You can go to #test for trying things out
[06:01] <ganesh_ariveguru> #test how...
[06:01] <theadmin> ganesh_ariveguru: Just /join #test
[06:02] <theadmin> Like usual
[06:02] <ganesh_ariveguru> ya...i got it..thanks
[06:02] <Gautam1983> Hi all, whenever ubuntu boots in this system, the volume is muted.. any ideas how to fix it? Thanks.
[06:03] <cfhowlett> Gautam1983: can you unmute?
[06:03] <Gautam1983> cfhowlett, yeah, but I have to always do this manually..
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: yes turn it off, just to test
[06:03] <cfhowlett> Gautam1983: ubuntu version??
[06:03] <Gautam1983> 11.10
[06:04] <sherif> how can i install .tar.bz2
[06:04] <cfhowlett> Gautam1983: look in your preferences>sound
[06:04] <theadmin> sherif: There usually is a README file inside. Read it.
[06:04] <ganesh_ariveguru> irc://freenode/sherif,isnick hi
[06:05] <addy534> demo:
[06:05] <addy534> demo:are r there
[06:05] <Gautam1983> cfhowlett, What do I look for in there?
[06:05] <cfhowlett> Gautam1983: theme sounds on?
[06:05] <addy534> action;are u there
[06:05] <Gautam1983> cfhowlett, Theme sound???
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> addy534: sup?
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> addy534: try tab completing nicks, it highlights them
[06:06] <cfhowlett> Gautam1983: if the theme is OFF you'll get no sounds.
[06:06] <Gautam1983> cfhowlett, There is no "theme" option..
[06:07] <addy534> demo:
[06:07] <cfhowlett> Gautam1983: ask the channel again - I'm still on 10.04 so my setup is different from your's.
[06:07] <Jake55> can anyone help me with this ptrace problem please?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1509842
[06:07] <Gautam1983> cfhowlett, Ah, okay thanks.
[06:08] <boom2pow> hello im from philippine can you help me with my problem?
[06:08] <cfhowlett> !ask|boom2pow
[06:08] <sherif> how can i unpack program
[06:08] <theadmin> boom2pow: We can't help you with *that* problem :P
[06:08] <Gautam1983> Hi all, whenever ubuntu boots in this system, the volume is muted.. any ideas how to fix it? Thanks. [Ubuntu 11.10 on Sony VAIO / Intel Corporation 82801H]
[06:08] <theadmin> boom2pow: We only support Ubuntu
[06:08] <addy534> is and body help me procedure of instal a ubuntu 11
[06:08] <addy534> with out loss my data drive
[06:08] <boom2pow> cfhowlett, how can install compiz in ubuntu 11.10?
[06:09] <[R]> addy534: you won't lose anything when you install
[06:09] <Stanley00> addy534: can you give more details?
[06:09] <cfhowlett> boom2pow: http://www.howtoforge.com/enabling-compiz-fusion-on-ubuntu-11.10-oneiric-ocelot
[06:09] <addy534> but i don;t want to loos
[06:09] <sherif> how can i unpack .tar.bz2
[06:09] <[R]> sherif: with tar
[06:09] <theadmin> sherif: tar xjf blah.tar.bz2
[06:10] <sherif> theadmin ty
[06:10] <Stanley00> addy534: but if you do right, you wont loose anythings
[06:11] <boom2pow> thank you sir cfhowlett ^_^
[06:11] <cfhowlett> boom2pow: no problem.  eat some balut for me.
[06:11] <sherif> theadmin must i write the folder name as it's?
[06:11] <boom2pow> cfhowlett, wow... do you know balut?
[06:11] <cfhowlett> boom2pow: once upon  a time married a pinay
[06:12] <theadmin> sherif: If it's not in $PWD, you should specify the full path, otherwise just the filename
[06:12] <boom2pow> yeah...
[06:13] <boom2pow> so you like girls like pinay?
[06:13] <sherif> theadmin no it's in Downloads
[06:13] <theadmin> sherif: cd ~/Downloads ; tar xf blah.tar.bz2
[06:14] <Jeremy3D> ActionParsnip, what was the command to see eth0 eth1 etc?  didn't you say something about telling wicd to use one of those?
[06:14] <sherif> theadmin but blah is very long :S
[06:14] <theadmin> sherif: Enter first few letters and hit tab
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> Jeremy3D: sudo lshw -C network
[06:15] <theadmin> sherif: For instance if the name is "i1401923daapfqe1" you could type "i14<tab>"
[06:15] <drcode> hi all
[06:15] <drcode> is there unity 3d in ubuntu 11.10?
[06:15] <drcode> I am using the regular unity
[06:15] <sherif> theadmin cool is it xf or xjf
[06:15] <theadmin> drcode: The "regular" unity is 3d
[06:15] <drcode> I see
[06:15] <drcode> I realy love it
[06:16] <theadmin> sherif: If you're using newer versions of tar, then both will work. If "xf" doesn't work, use "xjf" for bz2 and "xzf" for gz
[06:16] <theadmin> Anyhoo, I'll be back in a bit
[06:16] <sherif> theadmin thx alot
[06:16] <drcode> is there option to run ms office 2010 under linux , I know that on mac there is option to run lite windows and office?
[06:16] <Jeremy3D> ActionParsnip, hmm it's not showing a network this time. that's strange
[06:17] <theadmin> drcode: Wine or Virtualbox, but they're not supported here ( go to #winehq and #vbox respectively ) or just use LibreOffice (comes with Ubuntu)
[06:17] <theadmin> And I'm off
[06:17] <sherif> theadmin error is not recoverable exitting now
[06:17] <drcode> ok
[06:18] <drcode> I am using it, it work great
[06:18] <irbda> drcode: ? you are using it. but you ask?
[06:19] <drcode> I just ask if there is software like in mac
[06:20] <Phil> Morning, folks.
[06:21] <Phil> I don't suppose someone here could provide a bit of advice?
[06:21] <cfhowlett> !ask|phil
[06:21] <Phil> ty
[06:22] <Phil> Well, I'm sitting at work, trying to get ubuntu up and running on my lappy.
[06:22] <Phil> Runs fine, but I need to get the wireless driver to connect to wifi.  And our modem here won't let me direct connect.  I have to connect through wireless router.
[06:23] <Phil> So, is there any way to dl the needed driver package through win7, reboot into ubuntu, and install?
[06:23] <cfhowlett> Phil I bet you have a broadcom wifi card?
[06:23] <Phil> yep
[06:24] <Phil> older hp lappy
[06:24] <cfhowlett> Phil what version of *buntu
[06:25] <Phil> 11.20, i think?
[06:25] <cfhowlett> Phil 11.10??
[06:25] <Phil> i just ran the wubi install.
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> Phil: what is the output of:  sudo lshw -C network
[06:25] <Phil> .... no idea.
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> Phil: we just need the product line of the wifi
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> Phil: you won't have any idea, you need to run the command
[06:26] <cfhowlett> Phil ... what AP said..  run that command in a terminal
[06:26] <Phil> will do, but it'll take a few minutes.
[06:27] <Phil> out of curiosity, is there a way to run ubuntu and win7 at the same time, or am I going to be doing a bit of swapping back and forth
[06:27] <cfhowlett> Phil no can do via wubi but it can be done in virtualbox
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> Phil: could use virtualbox..
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> Phil: but you cannot do that with the setup you have
[06:28] <Phil> ah.  no worries.  be back in a few.
[06:29] <AtomicRobot> Hey, can anybody recommend any IT or InfoSec IRCs?
[06:29] <jzyamateur> question: i am  ubuntu 10.04 with acer timelinex gt4820 and atheros card, i cant get adhoc network to work, is there any workaround?
[06:31] <froxt> hello everyone
[06:31] <cfhowlett> froxt: greetings
[06:31] <froxt> ty :)
[06:32] <froxt> Can ubuntu be upgrade from its current version to new one
[06:32] <cfhowlett> froxt: what is your current version??
[06:32] <froxt> 10.10
[06:33] <cfhowlett> froxt: yes you can upgrade that version.
[06:33] <froxt> I was trying few mins ago but failed, some issue occurs
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> froxt: you'll need to upgrade to 11.04 then to 11.10
[06:34] <kelvin> hi how can i upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04
[06:34] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1|kelvin
[06:34] <SwedeMike> kelvin: sudo update-manager -d
[06:35] <urlin2u> kelvin, you have only one OS right now?
[06:35] <theadmin> SwedeMike: You don't run GUI apps with sudo :/
[06:35] <kelvin> no i have ubuntu and xp both
[06:35] <theadmin> !gksu | SwedeMike
[06:36] <urlin2u> kelvin, 12.04 is in development, are you sure?
[06:36] <cfhowlett> kelvin: are you REALLY sure?
[06:36] <kelvin> i checked with distrowatch
[06:36] <kelvin> 12.04 is released
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> 12.04 works here !wfm :)
[06:36] <cfhowlett> kelvin: wrong
[06:37] <theadmin> urlin2u, kelvin, cfhowlett - please take 12.04 discussion to #ubuntu+1
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> kelvin: its not, look at the version number and think..
[06:37] <urlin2u> theadmin, this is whether it is a good idea.
[06:37] <kelvin> plz correct me if i m wrong
[06:37] <theadmin> urlin2u: It's not
[06:37] <kelvin> cant i install 12.04
[06:37] <theadmin> kelvin: You ARE wrong, 12.04 is NOT released. It will be released in April.
[06:38] <jewliminator> :D
[06:38] <theadmin> kelvin: The Ubuntu versioning system is YY.MM
[06:38] <theadmin> kelvin: Year.Month. Thus, 12.04 is April, 2012
[06:38] <kelvin> thats i know but if u check with www.distrowatch.com
[06:38] <vsync> theadmin having a powertrip? mediocrity in here.
[06:38] <kelvin> its shows relased
[06:38] <kelvin> so is it wrong informaiton
[06:38] <kelvin> ??/
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> kelvin: it doesn't matter what ANY site says. It's not out and its in Beta
[06:38] <aeon-ltd> the only official source is canonical
[06:39] <irbda> so after 100years the version number will be repeated
[06:39] <aeon-ltd> boom!
[06:39] <cfhowlett> kelvin: distrowatch is not official **buntu information.  see http://www.howtoforge.com/enabling-compiz-fusion-on-ubuntu-11.10-oneiric-ocelot
[06:39] <theadmin> kelvin: "second alpha". Alpha means testing release. Not official.
[06:39] <cfhowlett> scratch that see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[06:39] <kelvin> kk
[06:39] <vsync> please. Don't try to argue with anyone and don't prolong this conversation. Wiseasses in here like to go on a powertrip if they happen to know something.
[06:39] <aeon-ltd> everyone we are derailing!
[06:39] <kelvin> understand now
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> kelvin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> kelvin: tells you when the milestones are too
[06:39] <sectionme> kelvin: It states on distrowatch "Development Release: Ubuntu 12.04 Alpha 2" is new.
[06:40] <pangolin> Please take the 12.04 talk to #ubuntu=1
[06:40] <pangolin> +1
[06:40] <theadmin> Okay, stop now for god's sake, this ain't supported here... #ubuntu+1
[06:40] <theadmin> How many times do I haz to repeat -_-
[06:40] <froxt> admin
[06:40] <Angablade> How is everyone tonight?
[06:40] <kelvin> k
[06:40] <urlin2u> theadmin, lol you answered it more times then I did, grow up.
[06:40] <froxt> im unable to upgrade my current version
[06:40] <theadmin> !ot | Angablade
[06:41] <Angablade> I know.
[06:41] <Angablade> I was just being polite.
[06:41] <theadmin> Angablade: Ah, ok, sorry
[06:41] <Angablade> Anyways, I got a bit of a problem.
[06:41] <theadmin> urlin2u: Still.
[06:41] <theadmin> Angablade: Yes, sure, just ask
[06:41] <cfhowlett> froxt:  error messages would be helpful with this issue...
[06:41] <cfhowlett> !paste|froxt
[06:42] <Angablade> I am trying to remove this horrid thing called unity from my laptop.
[06:42] <Angablade> How would I do so?
[06:42] <froxt> well i can provide screen shot
[06:42] <theadmin> Angablade: Install another desktop and remove unity
[06:42] <kelvin> is it creat any problem in security if i installed software which is not provide by ubuntu community
[06:42] <cfhowlett> froxt: use http://imagebin.org/?page=add
[06:42] <Angablade> Thanks. Erm... Would you happen to know how?
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> kelvin: it is possible it could have nastys ni, but its extremely rare
[06:42] <theadmin> Angablade: Which do you prefer? XFCE? LXDE? KDE?
[06:43] <Angablade> I have used KDE before. So that should suit me.
[06:43] <theadmin> !purekde | Angablade
[06:43] <Angablade> Thank you.
[06:44] <froxt> http://imagebin.org/197552
[06:44] <sectionme> Anyone know of an options for nfs exports to allow nesting of mounts on the server-side, eg. /exports/work/{project1,project2,project3} which say project2 is on a different mount point, currently it gets exported as the empty directory as if it wasn't mounted.
[06:44] <froxt> please check this link
[06:45] <cfhowlett> froxt: you're trying to update to 11.10??
[06:45] <froxt> No. upgrading to 11.04
[06:45] <Angablade> Thank you theadmin. Am I allowed to idle here until the process is complete?
[06:45] <cfhowlett> froxt: nevermind I see it now. you're going from 10.10 to 11.04??
[06:45] <froxt> yes
[06:45] <theadmin> Angablade: Sure thing. Heh, most of the people in here idle
[06:45] <Angablade> Okay, thanks.
[06:46] <theadmin> !who | Angablade, just so you familiarize with the general webiquette of IRC
[06:46] <Phil> Ok, back now.
[06:48] <froxt> Any more suggestions?
[06:48] <cfhowlett> froxt: I can't understand why you would be getting this error on a 10.10 to 11.04 upgrade.  Then again, I'm still on 10.04 as I only do LTS releases.  Please restate the question for the channel.  It's a new one to me.
[06:49] <Angablade> theadmin, Thank you very much. I will update you on the progress when it does something more than load..
[06:49] <theadmin> froxt: Try removing any third-party repos (i.e. PPAs) and packages.
[06:50] <froxt> its simple, last night I install ubunu 10.10 version. and then i check for the update and it shows that 11.04 is available to install, so i click upgrade, but while calculating it shows this error.
[06:50] <froxt> ok admin ill try that now
[06:50] <theadmin> froxt: I suggest you just install 11.10 from scratch if there isn't anything important there and you don't have much customizations
[06:51] <froxt> hmm
[06:51] <groYen> irssi: /connect irc.flashback.org 6697 lösenord användarnamn
[06:51] <groYen> irssi: /connect irc.flashback.org 6697 lösenord användarnamn
[06:52] <groYen> irssi: /connect irc.flashback.org 6697 lösenord användarnamn
[06:52] <cfhowlett> froxt: you might also give thought to going with LTS only as more polishing goes into those releases
[06:52] <vsync> froxt try apt-get clean and run it again
[06:52] <vsync> there might be broken packages in the cache
[06:52] <froxt> I would like to add a little infor about my self, Im new to ubuntu
[06:53] <theadmin> froxt: Then it'd be simplier to just reinstall to the newest release (that is, 11.10)
[06:53] <Phil> Ok, the guys wanting me to run the sudo lshw -C network, I've got that.
[06:53] <Phil> And thanks for your patience, I know it took me a bit.
[06:53] <Phil> +-network
[06:53] <Phil>           description: Network Controller
[06:53] <Phil>           product:  BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN
[06:53] <Phil>          vendor: Broadcom Corporation
[06:53] <Phil>           physical id: 0
[06:53] <Phil>           bus info: pci@0000:03:00.0
[06:53] <Phil>         version: 01
[06:53] <FloodBot1> Phil: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | phil#
[06:53] <Angablade> theadmin, the process finished. Should I restart the machine?
[06:54] <theadmin> Angablade: Yeah, if it finished successfully
[06:54] <Angablade> theadmin, it did.
[06:54] <Phil> appreciate it, guys.
[06:54] <North_> I am trying to install Ubuntu using USB installer. but I faced the problem whlie running the Universial USB installer. the error message is "Cannot open output file : autorun.inf" Please HELP>
[06:54] <Phil> Thanks.
[06:54] <theadmin> Angablade: Well, actually, since you can't restart via Unity anymore (since it's removed), run "sudo reboot" in the terminal
[06:54] <Angablade> Thanks.
[06:54] <froxt> I'll just install 11.10 direct from downloaded iso
[06:54] <kelvin> hi
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> froxt: gives a cleaner OS, feels like a new jumper :)
[06:55] <froxt> :)
[06:55] <vsync> ActionParsnip without actually understanding the problem. props
[06:55] <vsync> it's the ubuntu-wayh
[06:55] <vsync> -h
[06:56] <theadmin> vsync: Yeah, Ubuntu never got release upgrades right. I honestly don't understand their system with "releases", rolling OSs feel much clean, but... If you use Ubuntu, then stick to their ways. If you don't like them, switch :P
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> vsync: Ive always clean installed. I find I get fewer issues
[06:57] <Ben64> i always upgrade
[06:57] <Ben64> e->f->g->h->l; no problems
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> as soon as it goes alpha1 I'm on it :)
[06:57] <kelvin> hi i have ubuntu 11.10 installed in my system.. on my desktop folder and other icon is showing too large... want to make small like xp.... how can i do ??/
[06:58] <eshlox> hi, newest kubuntu, kmail, Unknown error. (Unable to fetch item from backend), ideas?
[06:58] <Elixer> test
[06:58] <cfhowlett> !test|elixer
[06:58] <North_>  I am trying to install Ubuntu using USB installer. but I faced the problem whlie running the Universial USB installer. the error message is "Cannot open output file : autorun.inf" Please HELP?
[06:58] <vsync> theadmin & ActionParsnip yeah sure. The problem was most likely corrupted packages in the cache, i.e. shutdown at download or the likes. But sure =)
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> kelvin: so the icons on the desktop are too big?
[06:58] <cfhowlett> !patience|north_
[06:58] <Elixer> #test
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> kelvin: is it all icons?
[06:58] <kelvin> North : u should format USB driver and reinstall ubuntu in USB
[06:58] <rhin0> hi -- is there any way I can get panel with applets on top of screen with unity -- without instlaling gnome classic gnome earlier or anything
[06:58] <kelvin> yes Action prasnip
[06:59] <kelvin> all icons
[06:59] <theadmin> vsync: Actually it's got nothing to do with package cache, it's ignored when doing release upgrades. The problem is very likely third party repos :P
[06:59] <North_> kelvin: I already format USB driver.
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> kelvin: what GPU do you use?
[06:59] <kelvin> how to check GPU
[07:00] <theadmin> kelvin: lspci | grep -i vga
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> :)
[07:00] <vsync> theadmin well that could be easily resolved too. And also, actually you can't say for sure
[07:00] <kelvin> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) (rev 0c)
[07:01] <Tanvir> Hello everyone, how can I mount all drives at start-up in Ubuntu? I am using 11.10.
[07:01] <savantelite> I am using an old wiki page for an newer system, how do I find /etc/dhcpd.conf on my newer system?
[07:01] <rhin0> i just want apps clickeable from a taskbar
[07:01] <theadmin> vsync: I can, because, well, packages in the cache are for the current release, not for the new one. It won't deal with them since they ain't the right release.
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> kelvin: i'm not too good with intel things. All I can suggest is make sure you are fully updated
[07:01] <Jordan_U> !fstab | Tanvir
[07:01] <rhin0> none of this having to type to find it
[07:01] <rhin0> the taskbar always there - a panel
[07:01] <kelvin> its fully updated
[07:01] <theadmin> rhin0: Try XFCE
[07:01] <rhin0> NO
[07:01] <theadmin> !xubuntu | rhin0
[07:02] <Tanvir> Jordan_U, thank you. I am reading.
[07:02] <Jordan_U> Tanvir: You're welcome.
[07:02] <theadmin> rhin0: KDE? LXDE? There are many alternatives to Unity
[07:02] <Phil> Ok, I have the Broadcom BCM4311, which means I need the STA drivers.  Since I have no internet access under ubuntu currently, I'll need to follow the 'now internet' instructions.  Will those work since I didn't use a CD to install?
[07:02] <rhin0> xfce gave me problems on my hardware (11.10)
[07:02] <rhin0> can't use 10.04
[07:02] <Phil> *no internet instructions
[07:02] <rhin0> why can#t you get an app with one click?
[07:02] <vsync> theadmin two different versions are not able to use some packages of the same version? Or is the apt-system so dumb it'll just pull same stuff out of the new repo anyway?
[07:03] <rhin0> thats absolutely ridiculous - the panel was essential
[07:03] <cfhowlett> Phil boot windows, download the broadcom linux sta , save to usb and reboot ubuntu.
[07:03] <theadmin> vsync: Yeah, even if the versions are identical (e.g. "2.5-natty" and "2.5-oneiric") it will pull the oneiric one out
[07:03] <theadmin> rhin0: Install gnome-fallback
[07:03] <rhin0> what absolute GARBAGE unity desktop is
[07:04] <ActionParsnip> Phil: the install CD can do what yuo need
[07:04] <Phil> cfhowlett, that makes a whole lot of sense.  And that'll teach me to leave my usb at home when I decide to install ubuntu  while at work.
[07:04] <Phil> i don't have teh install CD, ActionParsnip.
[07:04] <Phil> I did the Wubi install.
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> Phil: wubi makes no difference to your situation
[07:05] <vsync> theadmin well in that case, the same should apply for 3rd party repos so I can't see the problem being there either
[07:05] <cfhowlett> Phil fwiw: I went through this process with my bcm4313...and if I can figure this stuff out, anyone can
[07:05] <pehden> do you know a program for linux like nero 6 for windows
[07:05] <theadmin> vsync: How can it find out the new repos for third parties? That'd be a complicated process... It doesn't do that xD
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> Phil: you can mount the install CD inside your ubuntu install and use it as a repository
[07:05] <cfhowlett> pehden: brasero
[07:05] <pehden> ubuntu
[07:05] <vsync> theadmin yes and in that case it just ignores them, no?
[07:06] <theadmin> pehden: Brasero, K3b, xfburn
[07:06] <pehden> cfhowlett does it do menus
[07:06] <Phil> cfhowlett: I believe ya, I just don't have my usb with me.
[07:06] <theadmin> vsync: No, it throws that error at ya and waits till you resolve it by hand
[07:06] <theadmin> vsync: Silly I know
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> Phil: you can download the ISO in Wnidows and then access your ntfs partition via the /host folder
[07:06] <vsync> well, i switched out of debian-based stuff because of dpkg, but that's just crap
[07:06] <vsync> super duper crap
[07:06] <cfhowlett> pehden: no idea but it will burn disc just fine
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> Phil: I advise you use a wired connection though, makes life a LOT easier
[07:07] <ice10001> Hi all,
[07:07] <Phil> I'm at work right now, and can't do wired.  I tried.  it won't even work in win7.
[07:07] <savantelite> I am using an old wiki page for an newer system, how do I find /etc/dhcpd.conf on my newer system?
[07:07] <sherif> how can i go to directory opt using terminal
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> Phil: great :(
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> sherif: cd /opt
[07:07] <Phil> Hotel settup.  the cable co has it settup so that it has to go through the router, apparently, and I don't have a spare cable to use.
[07:08] <ice10001> can anyone help me with getting my xubuntu 64 (11.10) software centre to connect from behind a proxy? I have googled & tried all suggestions, and no dice.
[07:08] <sherif> ActionParsnip how can i remove application from there
[07:09] <theadmin> savantelite: I beleive it was moved to /etc/dhcp
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> sherif: there is usually an uninstaller, what did you install?
[07:09] <sherif> actionparsnip second life
[07:10] <kelvin> how can i change hostname through terminal window
[07:10] <savantelite> I only found  /etc/dhcp/dhclient.d/n
[07:10] <theadmin> kelvin: echo "something" | sudo tee /etc/hostname # And then reboot
[07:10] <Alina> HIII AAAL!!!!
[07:10] <ice10001> bump
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> sherif: I'd check the folders for an uninstall command
[07:11] <Alina> HELP PLEASE!
[07:11] <Jordan_U> kelvin: Do *NOT* do what theadmin just suggested.
[07:11] <kelvin> k theadmin
[07:11] <Jordan_U> !hostname | kelvin theadmin
[07:11] <cfhowlett> !alina|ask
[07:11] <theadmin> Jordan_U: Err, huh? It works... Oh, you need to update /etc/hosts
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: you'll need to change /etc/hosts too or sudo won't work
[07:11] <sherif> ActionParsnip cudnt find
[07:11] <Braden`> How do I tell if a fs is ext2, 3, or 4?
[07:11] <theadmin> mmk
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> Braden`: sudo parted -l
[07:11] <sherif> ActionParsnip y isnt apt-get remove not working?
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> sherif: did you install it with apt-get or dpkg ?
[07:12] <Alina> Can i use oficial Ubuntu repo and ppa repo in my own OS in based version!?
[07:12] <Alina> Can i use oficial Ubuntu repo and ppa repo in my own OS in based version!?
[07:12] <Alina> Can i use oficial Ubuntu repo and ppa repo in my own OS in based version!?
[07:12] <FloodBot1> Alina: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:12] <theadmin> kelvin: Wait, do this first: cat /etc/hosts | sed "s/$HOSTNAME/newhostname/" | sudo tee /etc/hosts
[07:12] <sherif> ActionParsnip i installed it with tar
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> sherif: then that's why, its not in the database is it
[07:12] <Phil> ActionParsnip: thanks, btw.  The help is appreciated.
[07:12] <sherif> ActionParsnip wut database
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> sherif: you can just delete the folder then as it isn't tied into anything
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> sherif: the package database
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> Phil: np
[07:13] <sherif> ActionParsnip ah i think so
[07:13] <sherif> ActionParsnip how can i delete the folder
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> Phil: thanks for the gratitude
[07:13] <Braden`> parted -l just returned a blank line
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> sherif: sudo rm -r /opt/foldername
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> Braden`: it needs sudo
[07:13] <theadmin> Braden`: sudo fdisk -l
[07:13] <kelvin> i couldnt find /etc/hostname
[07:13] <sherif> ActionParsnip no way by mouse?
[07:14] <Braden`> cannot open /proc/partitions
[07:14] <Braden`> :/
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: fdisk would show them all as 'Linux' type
[07:14] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: ...Oh, true
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> sherif: you can run@:  gksudo nautilus     and do it that way, it's really not necessary, just use TAB to complete the folder name, why do you need to use the mouse. I already gave you the command??
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: parted is smarter and shows partition types properly
[07:15] <sherif> ActionParsnip because i may forget this command later
[07:15] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: parted is harder to operate than fdisk most of the time though
[07:15] <sherif> ActionParsnip wut it stand for
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> sherif: that's not a sentence..
[07:16] <quiescens> Braden`: i usually like: sudo file -s /dev/(partition here)
[07:16] <sherif> ActionParsnip rm- r means?
[07:17] <theadmin> sherif: Remove recursively.
[07:17] <Jordan_U> theadmin: Parted can't tell you the differnce between ext2,3, or 4. Which was the original goal.
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: true but the -l option gives more detail than fdisk -l ;)
[07:17] <theadmin> Jordan_U: True, just saying :D
[07:17] <sherif> ActionParsnip is there other types of remove
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> sherif: it's rm -r   not rm- r
[07:17] <theadmin> sherif: "man COMMAND" will give you a detailed description and usage instructions for a command.
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> sherif: (r)e(m)ove
[07:17] <theadmin> sherif: So, "man rm"
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> sherif: the -r means recursive and will delete the folder and all subfolders
[07:18] <krised> Anyone know how to change the lightDM login name "other" to somthing else ? I need it to just ask for a name (sorta like Windows ) instead of listing the name Other
[07:19] <sherif> ActionParsnip ty
[07:19] <kelvin> hi
[07:19] <sherif> theadmin man stands for?
[07:19] <theadmin> sherif: MANual
[07:19] <kelvin> i couldnt find /etc/hostname
[07:19] <soup3> Is anyone here familiar with tcpdump?
[07:19] <sherif> theadmin cool
[07:20] <Stanley00> krised: Other is not an account name actually...
[07:21] <sherif> theadmin is there away to know commands for any actions i want i mean if i wanna copy how can i know the command
[07:21] <Phil> ActionParsnip: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx    says it's for 10.04.  Will that still work for 11.10?
[07:21] <Stanley00> krised: it is for some accounts dont list there.
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> Phil: same difference
[07:21] <theadmin> sherif: "cp" is the command for that. "man intro" will be a good starting guide.
[07:21] <Phil> just doublechecking.   Ask the pro before I make a mess.
[07:21] <Phil> ty
[07:22] <krised> Stanly00 yeah. Isnt it possible to have lightDM just ask for a username and password ? ive already had it set to not show usernames but i need to have it simply ask for username and password
[07:22] <krised> like windows basicly
[07:22] <Stanley00> sherif: you can use "apropos", ex: "apropos copy"
[07:22] <sherif> theadmin thx
[07:23] <Stanley00> krised: I dont know, and I dont think it is possible
[07:23] <theadmin> krised: How about installing lxdm? It just does that. Asks a username and a password in plain-text entry fields without any lists or other mess
[07:23] <sherif> stanley00 cool
[07:23] <cfhowlett> sherif: like this?  http://files.fosswire.com/2007/08/fwunixref.pdf
[07:23] <sherif> stanley00 apropos stands for?
[07:24] <Stanley00> sherif: I dont know either ;), ask "whatis apropos" =))
[07:24] <krised> theadmin i might try that. Though Ive found that uninstalling lightDM and installing GDM will bootch the system if i attempt to remastersys it back into an ISO.. the fresh iso when burned to a disc will not boot (hangs after checking battery state )
[07:24] <theadmin> krised: gdm is honestly really, really weird.
[07:24] <krised> so finally i found that its due to gdm messing up this. cause if i just stick to lightdm it works
[07:24] <theadmin> krised: lxdm never failed me personally :D
[07:25] <krised> theadmin oh ill give it a try then. thanks
[07:25] <sherif> stanley00 cool its just hard to remember apropos
[07:25] <theadmin> krised: There is Qingy too which is console/terminal/text-based if you wish.
[07:25] <Stanley00> sherif: "man -k copy" does the same thing.
[07:25] <krised> theadmin nono. I need it to look as much like windows as possible
[07:26] <theadmin> krised: But Windows does list users...
[07:26] <sherif> stanley00 cool
[07:26] <krised> theadmin ah sorry for being unclear. im having the ubuntu set up for domain use.. hence domain windows does not list  users.
[07:27] <theadmin> krised: Ah
[07:28] <sherif> can i open pdf files on ubuntu?
[07:28] <kelvin> hi
[07:28] <theadmin> sherif: Yes, there's a PDF viewer installed by default (evince)
[07:28] <sherif> theadmin yh right
[07:29] <krised> theadmin i work at a school. we got some old computers which id need to get up running - so ive costumized 11.10. but replacing lightdm with gdm screws it up.. but ill give lxdm a try
[07:29] <theadmin> krised: I see, hm... But why do you need it to look like Windows?
[07:29] <krised> sherif you can more or less count on a default ubuntu 11.10 install to open just about any common windows file yes
[07:29] <theadmin> krised: Also, uh, remastersys is broken/abandoned/deprecated I beleive
[07:30] <sherif> krised didnt get u
[07:30] <krised> theadmin hmm its updated still though... i belive due to the many demands for it..
[07:30] <theadmin> krised: Ah ok
[07:30] <theadmin> sherif: You can open everything that you can open in Windows in Ubuntu
[07:30] <krised> sherif most files that you would open in a standard windows computer (such as MS office files) including pdf will easily be opened in ubuntu with libreoffice (its build in as well )
[07:30] <theadmin> sherif: No exceptions, you can even run exe files (although not too well)
[07:30] <sherif> theadmin you mean i dont need terminal?
[07:31] <theadmin> sherif: Most of the time you don't, yeah, Ubuntu has GUIs for thingies xD
[07:31] <Phil> ActionParsnip, I think I'm obliged to inform you that I'm an idiot.  Apparently, I can connect directly to the cable modem, if I just reset the bloody thing.
[07:31] <sherif> krised anything will work but not exe right?
[07:31] <krised> theadmin our users are used to windows (we run cad/cam programs ) but the old computers run linux just fine.. for breaks like youtube and facebook and that sort.
[07:31] <theadmin> krised: hm okay
[07:32] <theadmin> sherif: exes can work in Ubuntu if you install Wine, but they won't work very good
[07:32] <krised> sherif well like theadmin said you CAN run exe files if you install wine .. but dont count on all programs being able to work..
[07:32] <sherif> theadmin but like last issue cant remove the folder in opt without terminal
[07:32] <rick_> hello im looking for ubuntu jedi to give me free 24/7 support instead of making this as hard as possible to break free of windows prison
[07:32] <Stanley00> krised: if that's old, how about install lubuntu? and it looks like window somehow
[07:32] <theadmin> sherif: Run "gksu nautilus" and then you'll have a filemanager with full access to all files. But that's somewhat... risky
[07:32] <krised> Stanley00 lubuntu ?? never heard of it but ill look at it.
[07:32] <Stanley00> rick_: I think this channel works 24/24
[07:33] <theadmin> krised: I say try Lubuntu too :) It looks like Windows 95-98-ish
[07:33] <rick_> 24/24????
[07:33] <sherif> krised theadmin cool actually i like using the terminal
[07:33] <krised> win 95 ?? yuuck
[07:33] <theadmin> krised: Except... not as ugly :P
[07:33] <Stanley00> rick_: I mean 24 hours a day :D
[07:33] <theadmin> krised: But I mean, by the style of GUIs and such
[07:33] <theadmin> krised: http://lubuntu.net
[07:33] <Angablade> 24/24 as in 24 hours a day. 24 days a week?
[07:33] <sherif> is there other terminals better than default one?
[07:34] <rick_> oh well it seems the real experts are not on very often
[07:34] <krised> sherif i learned linux from scratch.. having two computers.. one with a small harddrive and another with windows so i could google up stuff whenever i bootched my system and had to reinstall.. after reinstalling it like 2-300 times i got the hang of it.
[07:34] <krised> sherif there are about 1500 diffrent distros of linux.. give em a try.. just dont try suicidelinux untill youre really hardcore though
[07:35] <theadmin> lol suicidelinux
[07:35] <BrandonNolet> Wooow, love how the channels with the most users are the linux ones :P
[07:35] <theadmin> rick_: You just ask your question and we try to help
[07:35] <krised> theadmin yeah.. you dont know tha tone ?
[07:35] <Angablade> threads bleading all over the ram?
[07:35] <sherif> krised its ok i have windows 7 installed too if i destroyed ubuntu its ok
[07:35] <theadmin> krised: I know it, I would never try that xD
[07:35] <scientes> I plugged a few usb devices into my apple keyboard, and they show up with lsusb, however my user account (non-privlidged) does not see them
[07:35] <scientes> what is going on?
[07:35] <rick_> ok im trying to get debugging tool i typed in terminal  man apt get  and i dont know what to do next
[07:36] <theadmin> rick_: Debugging tool for what?
[07:36] <Stanley00> rick_: debug with gdb?
[07:36] <sherif> krised do u know how to make flash games work faster on ubuntu?
[07:36] <krised> sherif you might wanna try it inside a virtual machine.. also take a backup of your virtual machine so you can recover fast if it gets slaughtered.
[07:36] <rick_> yup gdb
[07:36] <Angablade> "sudo apt-get install <app name>
[07:36] <ubuntu23421> good morning
[07:36] <theadmin> rick_: sudo apt-get install gdb
[07:36] <krised> sherif hmm no. ive encounterd problems more like flash running too fast
[07:36] <i_is_broke> scientes, try going in as admin and adding them to the proper groups.
[07:36] <sherif> krised that seems complicated
[07:36] <scientes> i_is_broke, who to proper groups?
[07:36] <ubuntu23421> I have one question maybe very easy to solv
[07:37] <BrandonNolet> How to update from 11.10 to 12.04 without reinstall?
[07:37] <Jordan_U> scientes: What do you mean by "does not see them"? What type of USB devices, and where do you expect them to be listed?
[07:37] <Angablade> theadmin, btw the process is finished and I am now happy as a clam. You made my day.
[07:37] <Stanley00> !pangolin | BrandonNolet
[07:37] <theadmin> BrandonNolet: update-manager -d # But note that 12.04 is not released and not supported.
[07:37] <theadmin> Angablade: Aww thank you :D
[07:37] <ubuntu23421> help??
[07:37] <scientes> jordan, i_is_broke do i need to be part of "plugdev" group? this is 10.04
[07:37] <theadmin> ubuntu23421: Ask your question first.
[07:37] <BrandonNolet> I understand that it's not released and thanks for the info :)
[07:37] <i_is_broke> scientes, you have to add them (regular user) so they can use it.
[07:37] <Stanley00> ubuntu23421: just ask your question.
[07:37] <ubuntu23421> NOOB HERE
[07:38] <ubuntu23421> Ok
[07:38] <scientes> jordan, i_is_broke to what groups?
[07:38] <i_is_broke> scientes, yup
[07:38] <rick_> gdb is already newest version so i got it already?????
[07:38] <krised> sherif its not really. but let me tell you this. the more you use terminal and learn the various commands.. that and google when you need to do somthing you dont know.. then you get the hang of linux very fast actually
[07:38] <Stanley00> rick_: yep
[07:38] <scientes> i_is_broke, plugdev is the one?
[07:38] <ubuntu23421> i have a problem with the lcd of my laptop
[07:38] <scientes> thx, i will ask the administrator
[07:38] <Angablade> rick_, try uninstalling it then reinstalling it. That always worked for me.
[07:38] <theadmin> scientes: plugdev, scanner, audio and power are the groups you normally have to be in.
[07:38] <rick_> how do i use it???? where do i find it
[07:39] <theadmin> rick_: If you don't know how to use it why do you need it -_-
[07:39] <Stanley00> rick_: just run "gdb /path/to/yourapp"
[07:39] <i_is_broke> scientes, ya
[07:39] <sherif> krised yh i guess so my bro told me it all depends on terminal n someone here sent me a pdf files of commands so i will study :)
[07:39] <werder> ubuntu23421: what's wrong with it?
[07:39] <ubuntu23421> It's broke
[07:39] <Angablade> ubuntu23421, what seems to be the problem?
[07:39] <scientes> theadmin, power and scanner dont exist on this computer (10.04)
[07:39] <werder> ubuntu23421: so? Is is a cracked screen?
[07:39] <i_is_broke> theadmin, thanks its been a while since i have had to add a non user. lol
[07:39] <ubuntu23421> so i installed ubunto with an external lg lcd tv
[07:39] <ubuntu23421> it goes perfect
[07:39] <theadmin> scientes: Ah I guess Ubuntu differs from normal distros in here as well
[07:40] <rick_> i need to learn
[07:40] <ubuntu23421> but once i install drivers from nvidia
[07:40] <ubuntu23421> no picture is displayed on the tv monitor
[07:40] <scientes> theadmin, what do mean as "normal distros" debian and red hat worlds are differn't across the board
[07:40] <Stanley00> rick_: then, you should read the gdb manual on gnu.org
[07:40] <krised> sherif well you can do that.. but nothing beats learning by doing.. whenever you need to do somthing.. you can just about always do it in a terminal as well as in GUI mode.. just reading pfd with commands wont really teach you anything
[07:40] <theadmin> scientes: Most distros (Debian inclusive actually) have those groups, others do too (Arch, Gentoo etc) so...
[07:40] <werder> ubuntu23421: is it a laptop or desktop?
[07:41] <sherif> krised wut is GUI mode?
[07:41] <Angablade> ubuntu23421, try removing the cord and replacing it. It might just need to sence that the came is in. Then auto switch like alot of other tv's and cards to.
[07:41] <scientes> theadmin, yuck
[07:41] <ubuntu23421> laptop
[07:41] <theadmin> scientes: Huh?
[07:41] <scientes> that it would be differn't without a good reason
[07:41] <ubuntu23421> guyz
[07:41] <ubuntu23421> look
[07:41] <krised> sherif thats whenever youre using your mouse.. CLI is commandline (typing) GUI is graphic userinterface. (using mouse)
[07:41] <scientes> cause they all use PolicyKit
[07:42] <ubuntu23421> it doesnt even work with fn+f7 keys
[07:42] <sherif> krised cool and wut is kde?
[07:42] <i_is_broke> oh wait your using a mac right
[07:42] <ubuntu23421> its a sony vayo
[07:42] <Angablade> ubuntu23421, the video card might just need to detect the tv. Have you tried pulling the cable out and reconnecting it?
[07:42] <theadmin> scientes: Yeah PolicyKit/ConsoleKit is evil >.<
[07:42] <ubuntu23421> yes
[07:42] <Angablade> Okay.
[07:42] <i_is_broke> scientes, sorry forgot to highlight. i dont know what else  is in mac setup either.
[07:42] <werder> ubuntu23421: so the laptop screen works fine
[07:42] <Angablade> What type of connection is it?
[07:42] <kelvin> hi
[07:42] <krised> sherif kds and gnome are just two graphic ways of showing you your linux.. there are many diffrent kinds of xsessions (thats the graphic part of your linux)
[07:42] <ubuntu23421> no i cant see nothing on the lcd
[07:43] <kelvin> i couldnt able to join room :
[07:43] <ome> Yo, anyone knows a good PDF2CHM ?
[07:43] <kelvin> i got following error
[07:43] <rick_> i cant find gdb manual on gnu.org
[07:43] <ubuntu23421> of the laptop
[07:43] <scientes> theadmin, are they inseperable? i know fedora is deprecating ck
[07:43] <Angablade> ubuntu23421, what type of connection were you using to connect to the tv?
[07:43] <sherif> krised u mean i can use kde or gnome instead of GUI?
[07:43] <ubuntu23421> vga dvi cable
[07:43] <theadmin> scientes: I'm not sure, but they're annoying for sure... I'd rather just use sudo for ALL permission management.
[07:43] <Stanley00> rick_: http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/documentation/?
[07:43] <Jordan_U> rick_: What are you trying to debug and why?
[07:43] <krised> sherif basicly its like in windows where you decide how things should be presented to you.. some like it simple (gnome) others like it like windows (kde) and others like it ugly and unusable (unity)
[07:43] <scientes> theadmin, I don't think that is good
[07:43] <Angablade> ubuntu23421: Intresting. Does the tv change on boot up?
[07:43] <kelvin> ##linux Cannot send to channe
[07:43] <ubuntu23421> i dont see nothing until it starts the ubunto setup
[07:43] <sherif> krised cuz someone told me that kde is much faster than gui
[07:43] <theadmin> scientes: Maybe, but at least it's simple...
[07:44] <krised> sherif well kde IS an gui really
[07:44] <scientes> I think PolicyKit is good,
[07:44] <kelvin> ##linux Cannot send to channel
[07:44] <krised> try google KDE and look at pictures
[07:44] <kelvin> hi help : ##linux Cannot send to channe
[07:44] <theadmin> kelvin: Register your nickname, you
[07:44] <theadmin> !register | kelvin
[07:44] <sherif> krised oh ok wut am i now? :D
[07:44] <sherif> krised how do i know im kde or unity
[07:45] <Angablade> ubuntu23421, have you tried any other monitors or tv's?
[07:45] <ubuntu23421> after I install the drivers for nvidia graphic board it only displays the broken laptop display, i hear sound of the so booting but no picture
[07:45] <werder> ubuntu23421: did the laptop screen work before you installed the nvidia drivers?
[07:45] <krised> sherif usually it tells you when you boot the system.. if you installed a standard ubuntu and you got a sidebar panel to your left side its unity.
[07:45] <ubuntu23421> well
[07:45] <kelvin> how to register nickname
[07:45] <ubuntu23421> it aint going to work i know
[07:46] <theadmin> kelvin: ubottu just told you. /join #freenode and ask there
[07:46] <Stanley00> kelvin: try ask it in #freenode or search the web
[07:46] <Angablade> werder, no it was broken when he was installing. He was using a tv throught a vga cable to a tv.
[07:46] <krised> sherif ubuntu these days come with unity (the ugly and unusable gui) but you can always install gnome-fallback session and boot into that as well
[07:46] <werder> Angablade: ah ok. missed that bit.
[07:46] <sherif> krised well i get a list on startup like 5 types of startup
[07:46] <fellayaboy> do i need a router that supports vpn in order to create a vpn for my home?
[07:46] <Stanley00> krised: hmm, unity is fine with me :D
[07:46] <Angablade> ubuntu23421, I would try another screen. A monitor perhaps after the machine is completely started up.
[07:47] <krised> sherif yes you can. you should install synaptic first. then install gnome-fallback session
[07:47] <theadmin> krised: Why would you need synaptic for that? You can just apt-get it
[07:47] <krised> stanley00 its fine if you just install and go with whats there.. but for working with the system its very anoying imho
[07:47] <ubuntu23421> laptop screen never worked
[07:48] <krised> theadmin for people who arent used to terminal id recommend synaptic for managing packages..
[07:48] <sherif> krised gnome or kde?
[07:48] <ubuntu23421> its on but with white on it
[07:48] <theadmin> krised: Meh, then nothing wrong with the software-center either :D
[07:48] <krised> sherif why not just install both ?? during the login screen you just pick which one you want for this session
[07:48] <Stanley00> krised: I just an edn user, surf the web and listen to music, so unity's fine :D
[07:48] <ubuntu23421> GUYZ ive been analyzing the file for the monitor setup
[07:48] <Angablade> ubuntu23421, I unstand. Try letting the laptop completely boot to the desktop, then plug another monitor into it if you can.
[07:48] <ubuntu23421> and only apears one monitor
[07:48] <krised> Stanley00 exactly.. but for administrating the system its a pain.
[07:49] <ubuntu23421> but i need two
[07:49] <sherif> krised ok first i have to install synpatic?
[07:49] <ubuntu23421> ok
[07:49] <ubuntu23421> but iam using it
[07:49] <ome> What is the _right_ way to create a link for a software that you install ? so that it comes up in menu, and you can just type it in shell.
[07:49] <sherif> krised from store?
[07:49] <ubuntu23421> running a live session
[07:49] <ubuntu23421> of ubuntu
[07:49] <Ben64> ubuntu23421: you can use something like xrandr or nvidia-settings to use the 2nd monitor
[07:49] <Stanley00> krised: I think admin prefer command line, right?
[07:49] <krised> sherif well you dont HAVE to.. but i think its easier.. in terminal try this: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[07:49] <ubuntu23421> :(
[07:49] <ubuntu23421> i tryed
[07:50] <fellayaboy> how can i setup a vpn for my home without having to mod my router with ddwrt or without buying a vpn router...ive seen so many different programs for windows that seem to work..i believe they work by bridging..is their any program or any way i could do this for ubuntu?
[07:50] <ubuntu23421> gives me an error
[07:50] <theadmin> ome, create a .desktop file in /usr/share/applications/. If you wish, there is lxmed to help you with menu editing (although I think it's not in the repos)
[07:50] <ubuntu23421> nvidia settings
[07:50] <krised> stanley00 since i have to set up the GUI part for all users.. no.. i gotta see how it looks like.. moving icons around and stuff.
[07:50] <Ben64> ubuntu23421: try to not use the enter key as punctuation
[07:50] <Angablade> ubuntu23421, if you can do that, then I would sugguest you try. If it doesn't work. Please come back. And we can proceed from there.
[07:50] <Stanley00> krised: ah, got that.
[07:50] <ubuntu23421> ok, sory
[07:51] <ome> theadmin: aight thanks, I will have a look.
[07:51] <krised> Stanley00 had i been setting up a proxy or firewall id have done it in terminal too yes
[07:51] <sherif> krised ok done
[07:51] <ubuntu23421> It will take for ever to get back here
[07:51] <sherif> krised now wut
[07:51] <ubuntu23421> see you
[07:51] <Ben64> ubuntu23421: if you have a second computer with linux, you can run nvidia-settings or another monitor configuration tool with x forwarding
[07:51] <Ben64> or not
[07:51] <werder> ha
[07:52] <Angablade> I just drank a 20 oz can of redbull. I will be here for a while.
[07:52] <krised> sherif fire up synaptic and search for gnome-fallback session
[07:52] <sherif> krised how can i execute synaptic using terminal?
[07:53] <Ben64> gksudo synaptic
[07:53] <krised> you can also search for kde and install both and then log out and click the small wheel next to your username in lightdm when logging in to select another gui
[07:53] <theadmin> Angablade: lol you :D
[07:53] <krised> sherif type sudo synaptic
[07:53] <theadmin> krised: NO
[07:53] <theadmin> !gksu | krised
[07:53] <Angablade> theadmin?
[07:53] <krised> yeah you can use gksu as well. in fact that should be prefered.
[07:53] <theadmin> krised: Running GUI apps as sudo leads to really sad results, sometimes even breaks desktop environments
[07:54] <theadmin> krised: s/as/with/
[07:54] <sherif> krised ok now there r many packages
[07:54] <Angablade> theadmin, Someone helped me. The least I can do is help someone else in return.
[07:54] <theadmin> Angablade: Nothing, I just laughed at your red bull statement
[07:54] <Angablade> Oh.
[07:54] <krised> theadmin yeah ok. im too much used to sudo so i should learn linux manners.
[07:54] <Stanley00> krised: synaptic will ask for password automatically, I think
[07:54] <sherif> krised do u mean if i login as gnome i wont be able to use terminal?
[07:55] <krised> sherif yes you will. terminal is just a program.. the gui just shows you the programs in diffrent ways. they contain same programs
[07:55] <theadmin> krised: Heh, yeah, well... I personally don't think any graphical apps (apart from maybe *very* several exceptions) should ever be ran as root anyway
[07:55] <krised> if you install a program in gnome.. and then boot into kde the program will also show up there
[07:55] <Angablade> theadmin, What is better than a can of redbull, metal, MW3 on another screen, and the irc on this screen?
[07:55] <sherif> krised ah ok got it
[07:56] <theadmin> Angablade: Heheh :) You're a fun person, could you PM me?
[07:56] <krised> theadmin agreed.
[07:56] <Angablade> Sure
[07:56] <sherif> krised is it gnome-seesion.bin cuz i have it installed :)
[07:56] <sherif> krised session*
[07:57] <krised> sherif hang on while i fire synaptic up here
[07:57] <sherif> krised fire up?
[07:57] <krised> sherif in synaptic click the search icon and search this: gnome-session-fallback
[07:57] <krised> fire up means starting the program.
[07:58] <krised> theadmin wait.. is 12.04 released yet ?
[07:58] <sherif> krised yh there a green near it i think its already installed
[07:58] <Braden`> no
[07:58] <Stanley00> krised: not yet...
[07:58] <theadmin> krised: No, latest is 11.10
[07:58] <krised> ah didnt think so either.. its strange.. 11.10 is the ONLY version apart from 9.10 which works with likewise-open
[07:59] <krised> so i got no choise when picking the version
[07:59] <sherif> krised i think im workin on gnome now :)
[07:59] <sherif> krised its already installed and my interface is not ugly
[08:00] <krised> sherif if youve installed the gnome-session-fallback you need to log out and clicking the little cog next to your name when you log in.. there you can select the gnome-session-fallback
[08:00] <krised> sherif im using gnome too. but its the unity gui that i think is unusable and ugly.
[08:01] <sherif> krised wut is the little cog next to my name?
[08:01] <fellayaboy> how do i get to see the gui in ssh on my side...i used ssh -x username@host and tried to open but it didnt work
[08:02] <krised> sherif when you log in to your computer after restarting it.. where you usually click your name and it asks for password.. there is a small cog.. a wheel with spikes on it.
[08:02] <Stanley00> fellayaboy: did you try x app forward HOWTO?
[08:02] <fellayaboy> no
[08:02] <sherif> krised i will just log out and check
[08:02] <fellayaboy> wheres taht at?
[08:02] <krised> sherif yeah do that. it should work now
[08:02] <fellayaboy> im a lil inexperienced
[08:03] <Stanley00> fellayaboy: I think you will find the answer there, search for that in the web
[08:03] <Ben64> fellayaboy: you might want to re-check the manual page for ssh
[08:03] <fellayaboy> which website
[08:03] <Ben64> fellayaboy: -x is not x forwarding, -X is.
[08:03] <fellayaboy> thank u ben
[08:03] <fellayaboy> that probably was my error
[08:04] <metaspike> fellayaboy - man ssh - <the manual page> :)
[08:04] <sherif> krised it was set to ubuntu
[08:04] <fellayaboy> thank u
[08:04] <sherif> krised is ubuntu same as unity?
[08:04] <krised> sherif yes. that is by standard the unity (there is a panel in your left side) click the cog and select fallback session if you can.
[08:05] <sherif> krised cant find panel on left side
[08:06] <krised> sherif if youre logged in with the standard ubuntu it should give you a panel in your left side with icons like firefox and other programs
[08:07] <sherif> krised actually the panel on left side is not there now it was available in ubuntu
[08:07] <sherif> krised im not standard now im gnome
[08:07] <krised> ok. then you got a top menu line and a bottom program line right ?
[08:08] <krised> it should look a bit diffrent from the ubuntu youre used to
[08:08] <sherif> krised yup its different
[08:08] <ubuntu25324> iam back
[08:09] <krised> sherif then you successfully installed gnome as it use to be.. you can also try kde if you like.. or any other of the many many diffrent xsessions..
[08:09] <ubuntu25324> didnt work putting the cable after running the os, as i expected,
[08:09] <metaspike> sherif, why are you using fallback?
[08:09] <krised> metaspike im showing him the diffrence in the xsessions
[08:09] <metaspike> ah
[08:10] <sherif> krised there were gnome,gnome classic ubuntu, ubuntu 2D
[08:10] <ubuntu25324> ppl can i get some help with the monitor issue vs graphic card?
[08:10] <ubuntu25324> 1:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72M [GeForce Go 7400] (rev a1)
[08:10] <sherif> metaspike wut is fallback?
[08:10] <krised> yeah.. ive set my systems to classic ubuntu.. cause its simple and i like it like that.
[08:10] <sherif> krised now i cant get the left panel :S
[08:11] <metaspike> what you're using now apparently
[08:11] <krised> sherif in the fallback you dont need it
[08:11] <ubuntu25324> any admin on
[08:11] <ubuntu25324> _
[08:11] <sherif> krised wut is fallback?
[08:11] <Ben64> !details | ubuntu25324
[08:12] <krised> sherif it was originally designed as a failsafe way of getting into ubuntu if the graphics cant cope with the "flashy" look of the ubuntu unity
[08:13] <sherif> krised theres activites up left right?
[08:14] <krised> sherif you should see in the top left side two words. one saying Programs another saying Places right ?
[08:14] <ubuntu25324> ok, my laptop monitor is broke, i have a tv set installed on the external connector, it works with the standard drivers, but once i install nvidia, it stops working, iam using a sony vayo laptop, with 1:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72M [GeForce Go 7400] (rev a1), ubuntu 10.4 lts
[08:14] <krised> theadmin uhmm was it you who recommended me lxdm ?
[08:14] <Ben64> ubuntu25324: oh its you again
[08:15] <ubuntu25324> iam pluggin the tv with a vga/dvi connector
[08:15] <Ben64> ubuntu25324: if you have a second computer with linux, you can run nvidia-settings or another monitor configuration tool with x forwarding
[08:15] <ubuntu25324> I dont have any other
[08:15] <krised> Any admin here ?? Im getting racistic PM from Snarbafulator!!!
[08:15] <sherif> krised no theres just activites and when i go on it theres windows, applications
[08:15] <ubuntu25324> thats why iam running the LIVE version of ubuntu
[08:16] <iceroot> krised: #ubuntu-ops
[08:16] <krised> sherif that sounds more like unity really.
[08:16] <theadmin> krised: yeah
[08:17] <krised> theadmin thanks.. it looks fair.. but i cant log in.. its showing me users that arent on the system
[08:17] <Ben64> ubuntu25324: then you'd have to use xrandr
[08:17] <ubuntu25324> ok
[08:17] <metaspike> ubuntu25324, there's probably a fn+function <F1, F2, F3 ETC> key to switch displays, or you can possibly change this behaviour with bios.
[08:17] <sherif> krised i dont feel like that do windows i open just have x and no - or rectangle?
[08:17] <theadmin> !ops | Snarbafulator is spamming in PM
[08:17] <ubuntu25324> the fn combination doesnt work either
[08:17] <krised> sherif youre not in the gnome fallback session i think.
[08:18] <ubuntu25324> I cant see bios either
[08:18] <krised> theadmin i just got that pm from him as well.. ive reported him too
[08:18] <sherif> krised i am on gnome
[08:18] <ubuntu25324> I just see the install procedure for ubuntu and live ubuntu, also ubuntu with the standard driivers without opengl
[08:19] <krised> sherif hmm well if its standard gnome its unity still.. you have to pick the classic if you can
[08:19] <theadmin> krised: Ouch
[08:20] <Angablade> ubuntu25324, try installing again from the live session, and install and configure the video stuff before restarting.
[08:20] <ubuntu25324> wut is xrandr and where can i find it_
[08:20] <ubuntu25324> _
[08:20] <Ben64> ubuntu25324: its a command line tool
[08:21] <sherif> krissed i am gnome classic now its the same the date n time up mid right?
[08:21] <ubuntu25324> i cant configure anything because it says iam not using the drivers, and also i have to restart before using it, and when i do it disapears from display
[08:21] <ubuntu25324> xrandr
[08:21] <sherif> krised i am gnome classic now its the same the date n time up mid right?
[08:21] <ubuntu25324> how do i fond it
[08:21] <krised> sherif yes.
[08:22] <Ben64> ubuntu25324: you type it on command line
[08:22] <krised> thats the old gnome (sorta) its one way to show things.. its mostly like windows.
[08:22] <sherif> krised ok wut packages of gnome shud i install? cuz there r many
[08:22] <krised> sherif well it seems like you got gnome install
[08:23] <sherif> krised theres gnome-colors n gnome-common
[08:23] <krised> sherif are you looking in synaptic now ?
[08:23] <mernilio> Hi all! :-)
[08:23] <sherif> krised yup i have many gnome packages installed not all of them
[08:24] <ubuntu25324> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 4096 x 4096
[08:24] <ubuntu25324> LVDS-1 connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm
[08:24] <ubuntu25324>    1280x800       59.8 +
[08:24] <ubuntu25324>    1024x768       59.9*
[08:24] <ubuntu25324>    800x600        59.9
[08:24] <ubuntu25324>    640x480        59.4
[08:24] <FloodBot1> ubuntu25324: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:24] <aoregcdu> ubuntu25324: please don't paste in here
[08:24] <krised> sherif you dont need them all.. they can be either dummy packages or other versions..
[08:24] <mernilio> yeah, dont flood the channel dude
[08:25] <sherif> krised cool now when i log in there wont be welcome screen cuz im the only user so which interface will it start as default?
[08:26] <mernilio> sherif: in english please?
[08:26] <krised> sherif ah you gotta set your system to ask for password. in gnome classic its in the programs menu somwhere. (theadmin just made me install lxdm so my entire install is unusable for a few more minutes)
[08:26] <krised> mernilio uhmm i belive sherif is typing english here ?
[08:27] <mernilio> krised: a subset maybe..
[08:27] <ubuntu25324> I GIVE UP
[08:27] <ubuntu25324> tanks anyway guyz
[08:27] <ubuntu25324> bye
[08:27] <krised> mernilio you mean you dont understand what he is saying ?
[08:27] <mernilio> krised: mm
[08:28] <sherif> krised cool wut is the difference between gnome classic and gnome
[08:28] <ubuntu25324> been doing this since 22h and its almoust 9h in my contry
[08:28] <ubuntu25324> bye
[08:28] <theadmin> krised: Hey don't blame me >.< I didn't think it'd fail on you
[08:28] <krised> mernilio well.. apart from Danish and a slight greenlandic.. i understand english and i read him just fine hehe
[08:28] <mernilio> But i should not complain, im pretty bad in english myself.
[08:28] <sherif> mernilio do u have problem :D
[08:28] <ubuntu25324> ill reinstall windows
[08:28] <mernilio> sherif: only with you :-)
[08:28] <krised> theadmin its ok.. i got a backup.. I THINK..
[08:28] <pangolin> !ot | mernilio sherif
[08:29] <sherif> mernilio im glad
[08:29] <mernilio> lets cut the crap! we all love eachother!
[08:29] <metaspike> ubuntu25324, might want to try 10.04 ubuntu or even ubuntu mint, debian... or go back to windows whatever, cya
[08:30] <sherif> krised which package of kde shud i install n does it big space?
[08:30] <sherif> krised take*
[08:31] <ubuntu25324> I would love to have some assitance from someone that actually knows stuff
[08:31] <krised> sherif uhmm you should install one with the latest version that doesnt say anything like language package or somthing like that.
[08:32] <krised> This is not happening. i got ONE disc with my entire setup and i cant find it
[08:32] <ElixerIsZog> can anyone help me stretch my desktop wallpaper to fit a dual monitor?
[08:33] <Ben64> ubuntu25324: i tried to give you suggestions but you say it won't work
[08:33] <krised> ill brb
[08:33] <sherif> krised is it kde-l10n-uk
[08:33] <henrikbjorn> can any help me with "locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory"
[08:34] <sherif> krised nvm this is translation files
[08:35] <krised> sherif hehe yeah you gotta  check what youre installing.. i think the software center can also work since it doesnt show packages but just complete programs
[08:37] <sherif> krised well cant get it from store but i found kde-standard in synpatic
[08:37] <krised> sherif yeah that looks about right.
[08:37] <sherif> krised will it look as windows 7?
[08:38] <krised> sherif no but it will be familiar.. but then again. so can gnome classic be if you pull down the top menu to the bottom.
[08:39] <sherif> krised well i think i will stick to gnome at the moment
[08:39] <sherif> krised dont u know how to make gnome classic default?
[08:39] <krised> sherif good call. you should install gnome-tweak-tool
[08:39] <krised> sherif yeah i do. hang on a sec
[08:40] <sherif> krised ok let me search the synaptic
[08:40]  * miadbahrami hi
[08:40] <sherif> krised i already have tweak tool installed :)
[08:41] <linocisco> hi
[08:41] <krised> ok.. you need to hold the ALT button when rightclicking the desktop or the panel. if you alt + rightclick the top panel you can select setting and select bottom. then it will be more like windows.
[08:42] <krised> sherif try this for setting default session http://askubuntu.com/questions/71126/how-do-i-set-the-gnome-classic-login-to-be-the-default-with-autologin
[08:42] <notaHacker> Trying to use openvpn...works on my windows...on kubuntu, works for about 6 seconds then stops ? Anybody have any ideas? http://pastebin.com/FNPeXX6q
[08:43] <linocisco> hello all.  As I have only laptop Lenovo B450 and no desktop, I tried to install ubuntu  server 10.10, installation was fine. but i see only small fonts are booting up. what to fix?
[08:43] <VerizonHunny> Anybody here in favor of assassinating the queen of england?
[08:43] <sherif_> krised ok i will check hey how can i minmize windows if there r no -
[08:43] <krised> VeryzonHunny why on earth would anyone do that ?
[08:43] <krised> hang on a bit..
[08:43] <AfterDeath> krised: He was trolling, and is now gone, just ignore it :)
[08:44] <notaHacker> -_-
[08:44] <krised> sherif search google for "ubuntu set menu buttons"
[08:45] <metaspike> ubuntu25324,, boot with failsafe mode, or use ctrl+f2/f3 whatever for a free terminal then - nvidia-xconfig --enable-all-gpus --use-display-device=1 (or whatever number ext monitor is)... ala  http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/alt-nvidia-current-xconfig.1.html . meh.
[08:46] <metaspike> reboot
[08:46] <sherif_> krised if i have many windows opened n i need to go to desktop how can i
[08:46] <krised> cant remember
[08:46] <ProGimp> Is it possible that video skype will work in 11.10?
[08:47] <linocisco> I have tried installing on one computer with higher graphic card. I experienced that before.
[08:47] <metaspike> ProGimp, totally, if your video is a Video4Linux compliant device.
[08:48] <ProGimp> Actually my cam works fine specially in Cheese. So I have no problem. It's just my video chat in Skype.
[08:49] <sherif_> krised ok thx alot for ur help
[08:49] <sherif_> krised may Allah bless u
[08:49] <ProGimp> I have went to download skype for linux then i have seen that only for 10 below is available.
[08:49] <krised> uhmm thanks
[08:49] <rogerU> quit
[08:50] <ProGimp> Any idea on how to work out with video chat in skype at 11.10 ?
[08:50] <ProGimp> I really need it badly to face with my client.
[08:50] <Jarred> awe
[08:51] <linocisco> hello all.  As I have only laptop Lenovo B450 and no desktop, I tried to install ubuntu  server 10.10, installation was fine. but i see only small fonts are booting up. what/how to fix?
[08:51] <Jarred> go to google
[08:51] <Jarred> :)
[08:51] <krised> sherif http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/red-hat-31/how-to-minimize-all-windows-114282/ post #7
[08:51] <krised> linocisco i gotta ask.. why install server on laptop ?
[08:51] <oCean> Jarred: don't tell others to 'google'
[08:52] <ProGimp> Jarred please don't do that
[08:52] <Jarred> y is ur nickname ocean?
[08:52] <ProGimp> People are here because they want a straight answer
[08:52] <oCean> Jarred: do you have an ubuntu support question? This is not chit chat
[08:52] <ProGimp> Jarred this isn't for kids.
[08:53] <Alpha-Omega> question: how is ubuntu minimal different from arch other than a different repo and package manager?
[08:53] <Jarred> what are the specs of the laptop?
[08:53] <krised> ProGimp i agree with oCean.. i doubt most people would come here before googling things
[08:55] <Jarred> are there any singles here,an i mean girls:bbm pin:269ef3a7
[08:55] <bazhang> Jarred, wrong network
[08:55] <oCean> Jarred: wrong channel
[08:55] <oCean> eh, that even
[08:56] <Angablade> peace
[08:56] <ProGimp> I hope Jarred will never do that again. @Jarred go find someone to play with you
[08:56] <K-4U> Good morning. How do i create an upstart job to start my xserver? I just want to start the command ¨startx¨
[08:56] <linocisco> Is someone answering me?
[08:56] <Jarred> this cumming 4rm sum1 with a name ProGimp?
[08:57] <K-4U> Okay.. realizing this is an international Channel... Good day would be better :P
[08:57]  * ProGimp slaps Jarred around a bit with a large trout
[08:59] <K-4U> Good day. How do i create an upstart job to start my xserver? I just want to start the command ¨startx¨
[08:59] <ome> Where is the right place to put define some bash variables on startup ?
[08:59] <linocisco> krised: as i have no desktop, no money to buy
[08:59] <K-4U> ome: ~/.bashrc
[09:00] <paulus68> how do you backup your windows folders with rsnapshot?
[09:00] <Myrtti> linocisco: you can install Ubuntu Desktop to a laptop tho
[09:01] <linocisco> Myrtti: yes. I can install 11.10 successfuly. I have installed and using that version
[09:01] <ome> K-4U: Thanks, and how would I run that again without restart ?
[09:02] <linocisco> Myrtti: the thing is not only with this laptop, but with any higher Graphic cards even with HP DC7100, i got only small fonts in the past with any Ubuntu servers
[09:02] <ome> bash ~/.bashrc
[09:02] <ome> ?
[09:03] <ome> Seems like no.
[09:03] <Ben64> ome: close the terminal and open a new one
[09:03] <krised> linocisco are you using your linux as a server as opposed to a regular workstation ?
[09:03] <K-4U> ome: yes, that :P
[09:03] <azriel> someone please help me, i run ubuntu 11.04, on a compaq presario cq57
[09:04] <student> hello
[09:04] <azriel> and at random points in time my comptuer just stops working, if i'm listening to music the last second or so will repeat
[09:04] <azriel> it only responds to a reboot
[09:04] <student> hello
[09:04] <azriel> who has ever had this problem?
[09:04] <quixotedon> azriel: how many times do you experience this?
[09:04] <krised> azriel hmm could be hardware related ? like ram perhaps
[09:04] <Ben64> azriel: do you have pulseaudio installed? it causes a lot of audio problems for me
[09:04] <azriel> every time i turn on my comptuer
[09:05] <linocisco> krised: yes. I want to test some server role like mail server with two accounts. just example server
[09:05] <student> hello how do you do
[09:05] <quixotedon> azriel: what app do you use to listen to the audio?
[09:05] <quixotedon> student: what do you want to say?
[09:05] <azriel> it dual boots and doesnt happen on windows
[09:05] <AlanBell> hello student, if you have a question about ubuntu please ask it
[09:05] <krised> linocisco ah ok.. not sure then.
[09:05] <azriel> umm
[09:05] <student> what
[09:05] <ome> krised: Ben64: Cheers!
[09:06] <azriel> quixotedon i dunno how would i find out?
[09:06] <student> ok
[09:06] <quixotedon> azriel: tell us exactly the file type of the audio file and the program you use to play the audio
[09:06] <quixotedon> azriel: is it a new install of 11.04?
[09:06] <student> а по русски можно!
[09:06] <azriel> i listen to flv rips form youtube on my own program; a gstreamer front end
[09:06] <damo22> !rus
[09:06] <scarleo> !ru | student
[09:06] <student> а по русски можно!
[09:06] <bazhang> student, #ubuntu-ru for russian
[09:06] <azriel> its a couple of months old but its been doing it since i got it
[09:07] <student> да
[09:07] <student> да
[09:07] <quixotedon> azriel: try using a more reliable program, your program might have a bug (in my opinion)
[09:07] <azriel> its not my program
[09:07] <azriel> it doesnt matter what im running or how long its running
[09:07] <student> join#ubuntu-ru
[09:08] <student> yes
[09:08] <azriel> it just stops working
[09:08] <student> да
[09:08] <azriel> ill be on youtube *freeze*
[09:08] <azriel> mine craft *freeze*
[09:08] <bazhang> student, /join #ubuntu-ru
[09:08] <azriel> havent even done anything yet *freeze*
[09:08] <Stanley00> say /join #ubuntu-ru <= student: like this
[09:08] <quixotedon> azriel: try using vlc media player
[09:09] <azriel> i brought up the music because it might be indicative of the program YOU ARE NOT LISTENING
[09:09] <azriel> *prblem
[09:09] <azriel> it is not the media player
[09:09] <Ben64> azriel: try removing pulseaudio, and yelling less
[09:09] <ServerSage> azriel: Have you looked at the logs in /var/log/ or run dmesg to see if anything is being reported?
[09:09] <azriel> see thats helpful, no i did not i will check now
[09:10] <Phil___> Does anyone have experience with Broadcom wireless adapters?
[09:10] <[deXter]> !broadcom | Phil___
[09:10] <Phil___> Did that, actually, and it didn't work.
[09:10] <azriel> how do i read what the dmesg says,
[09:10] <azriel> thats alot of words
[09:11] <quixotedon> i have problem with mobile broadband, it only happens on linux, any solution?
[09:11] <Phil___> I've installed the drivers, the 'additional drivers' screen tells me it's working, but for some reason it's not picking up the adapter.
[09:11] <theadmin> quixotedon: What problem?
[09:11] <azriel> ...
[09:12] <penguinman1337> azriel, pipe it to grep to filter for what ur after
[09:12] <quixotedon> my problem is, the connection is sometimes on and off (disconnect by itself), i tried on win7 (dual boot on my laptop) and there's no such problem
[09:12] <ServerSage> azriel: You might want to give what Ben64 said a try.  pulse audio is a good culprit.
[09:12] <azriel> how do i do whatever ben said?
[09:12] <Ben64> its one of the first things i do on a new system
[09:12] <quixotedon> azriel: try vlc, that's the best i can think of
[09:12] <Ben64> azriel: "sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio"
[09:12] <azriel> penguinman i don know what im after
[09:12] <azriel> shut up quix
[09:13] <azriel> wont that mute my computer?
[09:13] <Ben64> nope
[09:13] <azriel> what does pulse audio do?
[09:13] <Ben64> !info pulseaudio
[09:13] <Ben64> oh thats not very much info
[09:14] <Ben64> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PulseAudio
[09:14] <ServerSage> azriel:
[09:14] <[deXter]> Phil___, Did you check if your hardware wireless switch is on?
[09:14] <Phil___> Yep.
[09:14] <ServerSage> azriel: Big thing is it gives you networked audio.  Woo hoo?
[09:14] <Phil___> It works if I boot into win7
[09:15] <karthick87> I have upgraded my system, where my firefox version is also got updated. How ever i need firefox version 3.6 to test some features.. How do i downgrade the firefox version?
[09:15] <azriel> lol what does networked audio mean?
[09:16] <azriel> I'll let you know if it works
[09:16] <ServerSage> azriel: If you have to ask, you probably don't need it.  The link Ben64 gave you explains it.  It's safe to remove, and may solve your problem.
[09:16] <azriel> ok :3
[09:16] <Jarred> YOU ARE ALL NERDS*DWANKY
[09:17] <krised> well he is right.. we are nerds.. but he makes it sound like its a bad thing..
[09:17] <linocisco> can anybody help me?
[09:17] <oCean> krised: please move on
[09:17] <Phil___> Note: In Ubuntu 11.04, if the driver fails to load, you may need to reinstall the bcmwl-kernel-source package. This can be done from Synaptic -> Mark for Reinstallation.    Would that show as the driver being active in the 'aditional drivers' screen?
[09:17] <Stanley00> karthick87: well, if you use synaptic, you can goto package -> force version to do that
[09:17] <ServerSage> linocisco: Not until you ask.
[09:17] <krised> heh yeah sry
[09:18] <linocisco> hello all.  As I have only laptop Lenovo B450 and no desktop, I tried to install ubuntu  server 10.10, installation was fine. but i see only small fonts are booting up. what/how to fix?
[09:18] <linocisco> It happened on all computers with higher graphics
[09:19] <kalimojo> whats a good beginners to intermediate ubuntu book ?
[09:20] <theadmin> kalimojo: See http://ubuntu-manual.org - a bit out of date but you may find your way around it
[09:24] <fabiobik> hi
[09:24] <fabiobik> why because in my terminal have only the $
[09:25] <Stanley00> fabiobik: check $PS1 and what shell you are using
[09:26] <fabiobik> Stanley00: is thatr the comand?
[09:26] <linocisco> is anybody answering me?
[09:26] <Wildbat> anyone can suggests a good alternative for M$ Exchange in Linux?
[09:26] <Stanley00> fabiobik: what "echo $PS1" and "echo $SHELL" show you?
[09:27] <Stanley00> linocisco: I dont know, but what do you mean by "small fonts"?
[09:27] <dns53> Wildbat openchange is suppose to be exchange compatable, i am not sure how close it has gotten or how easy it is to use
[09:27] <oCean> Wildbat: check out zarafa.com
[09:27] <sherif> hi
[09:27] <sherif> ie cannot be installed here right?
[09:28] <Wildbat> thanks
[09:28] <Stanley00> sherif: ie? internet explorer?
[09:28] <krised> sherif havent tried really but i should think so..
[09:28] <krised> but why on earth would you want to do that ?
[09:28] <sherif> stanley00 yup
[09:29] <sherif> krised by wine?
[09:29] <krised> sherif yes.. but again.. why ?
[09:29] <sherif> krised some pages cannot be opened without ie
[09:29] <tassee> hi i'm trying to configure ubuntu one on my linux system; following problem: i subscribed the folder that i already added to ubuntu one; it downloaded all the files from there BUT it did not upload the files i only have locally on this computer. do i have to add this folder via --offer-share ? and if so, what arguments do i need except the path? thanks
[09:30] <sherif> krised like my registration page for my college
[09:30] <sherif> krissed it ask me to use ie
[09:30] <fabiobik> Stanley00: nothing
[09:31] <krised> sherif i just checked wine and it says no.. you can install 6.0 and that should work but barely.. however i belive you can have an addon to firefox which imposes IE.. not sure if that works
[09:31] <krised> sherif well it might ASK you to run IE.. but do you HAVE to ? thats the question
[09:31] <fabiobik> i dont know why my terminal appears only $
[09:32] <Stanley00> fabiobik: it cant be... did you do something strange lately?
[09:32] <fabiobik> and i cant go back with arrow
[09:32] <sherif> krised i use chromium n there an addon to change to ie
[09:32] <fabiobik> Stanley00: i cant for example zf.sh
[09:32] <fabiobik> says not found
[09:33] <krised> sherif yeah.. what does chrome say if you attempt to use that browser ?
[09:33] <sherif> krised anyways i think i will need wine someday
[09:33] <Stanley00> fabiobik: hmm, can you run /bin/bash ?
[09:33] <fabiobik> $ zf.sh  sh: zf.sh: not found $ sudo root [sudo] password for fabio:  sudo: root: command not found
[09:33] <fabiobik> Stanley00: how?
[09:34] <sherif> krised theres something called ie tab it directs u to ie but that if its installed
[09:34] <Stanley00> fabiobik: just type "/bin/bash" and press enter :D
[09:34] <krised> sherif yeah ie tab should work...
[09:34] <burbas> Hi. I'm trying to update my software sources for Karmic ARM but apt-get update fails due to 404 errors. Is there another source I could use for this?
[09:35] <sherif> krised not if i dont have ie installed
[09:35] <fabiobik> Stanley00: not found
[09:35] <iceroot> !eol | burbas
[09:35] <krised> sherif hmm hang on
[09:35] <Stanley00> fabiobik: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[09:35] <sherif> krised btw i cud add the minimization circle :0
[09:36] <fabiobik> Stanley00: ubuntu 10.04 lts
[09:36] <iceroot> fabiobik: is the system booted correctly or is there someting called "busybox"?
[09:36] <VectorX> hi, in oneiric how do i go back to the old gnome interface ie, without the dash etc ?
[09:36] <fabiobik> iceroot: im in desktop
[09:36] <krised> sherif yeah its not hard.. you can also have those buttons in the right side like windows if you want..
[09:36] <iceroot> !nounity | VectorX
[09:36] <krised> VectorX install gnome-fallback-session and run that instead
[09:37] <VectorX> ty guys
[09:37] <sherif> krised i went to www.winehg.org there r 2 versions stable n development
[09:37] <iceroot> fabiobik: output of "dpkg -l bash" and "cat /etc/issue"
[09:37] <snozek> hi
[09:37] <iceroot> !paste | fabiobik
[09:37] <krised> sherif yeah you can try appdb.winehq.org to see which programs run in wine
[09:38] <snozek> i have a bootable USB drive (with windows 7) and i would like to create a bootable iso from it. does anyone know how to do that?
[09:38] <fabiobik> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Inst/Cfg-files/Unpacked/Failed-cfg/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name           Version        Description +++-[09:38] <fabiobik> iceroot:
[09:38] <theadmin> snozek: dd if=/dev/sdX of=something.iso (replace X with a letter like a, b, c etc)
[09:38] <kalimojo> im looking for a wireless scanner . not kismet as that wont work with my wifi card.
[09:39] <linocisco> Stanley00: starting from ubuntu server login:, I can only see small fonts
[09:40] <sherif> krised ok i cudnt find ie
[09:40] <iceroot> fabiobik: and your issue is that your prompt is strange and you cant call /bin/bash?
[09:40] <snozek> theadmin: the output iso file is not bootable
[09:40] <damo22> theadmin: i wouldnt call it an iso file, more like a .dd
[09:40] <krised> sherif try this: http://www.compu-docs.com/ieadmininstall.htm
[09:41] <theadmin> damo22: If it's a real bootable Win7 stick created from an ISO, this is... supposed to work at least
[09:41] <theadmin> snozek: Sorry then, I don't think there's a way
[09:41] <Stanley00> linocisco: and it shown from the first boot, right after you install ubuntu?
[09:42] <damo22> theadmin: sorry what was the question ?
[09:42] <sherif> krised i think this is for windows not linux
[09:42] <Stanley00> linocisco: you could try this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1876161
[09:42] <krised> sherif ofcourse it is.. you need to install wine first
[09:43] <iceroot> fabiobik: what is the output of "echo $0"
[09:43] <sherif> krised ok which version
[09:43] <sam_> i'm trying to report a bug against the kernel, but i can't work out what the package is called
[09:43] <damo22> theadmin: is someone trying to make a bootable backup of a usb stick?
[09:43] <sam_> when i go to the "select a package" dialog in launchpad and type "kernel", it says "Too many matches. Please try to narrow your search"
[09:43] <alin|mobile> hi @ all! i am searching for advice... can i make an installation-iso with my configured ubuntusystem, which has been already installed on my harddisk? thx
[09:43] <sam_> does anyone know what package i should be reporting against?
[09:43] <krised> sherif just download that IE 6.0 file and then install wine from synaptic.. always latest versino
[09:44] <iceroot> sam_: linux
[09:44] <oCean> sam_: linux-image, or linux-image-generic
[09:44] <iceroot> sam_: ubuntu-bug linux   on the shell
[09:44] <krised> alin|mobile you need to turn an installed linux back into an iso ?? try remastersys thats what i use
[09:45] <uruguayo>  I WILL ASSASSINATE THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND WHEN SHE IS ON ONE OF HER TRIPS! GOD DAMN THE QUEEN!  I AM PLANNING ON BLOWING THE HEAD OFF OF THAT BITCH QUEEN ELIZABETH II!  FUCK THE CROWN, FUCK THE UK!  IF I CAN I WILL ASSRAPE PRINCE HARRY UNTIL HE BLEEDS TO DEATH TOO!
[09:45] <sam_> iceroot: i get the "too many matches" error for "linux" as well
[09:45] <alin|mobile> thx
[09:45] <iceroot> sam_: with the command "ubuntu-bug linux"?
[09:45] <sherif> krised ok i will look for wine on synaptic
[09:45] <krised> yeah
[09:45] <sam_> ocean: linux-image-generic works, thanks!
[09:46] <iceroot> sam_: if you open bugs against the kernel please only use the ubuntu-bug/apport method
[09:46] <iceroot> sam_: if not important infos are not added to the bug
[09:46] <sam_> iceroot: ah ok i see
[09:47] <sam_> iceroot: my bug is related to suspend/hibernate
[09:47] <iceroot> sam_: ok
[09:47] <iceroot> sam_: please use "ubuntu-bug linux"
[09:47] <sam_> iceroot: so how can i add a description of my problem into ubuntu-bug linux?
[09:47] <sam_> it seems to just want to send the report that it generated...
[09:47] <iceroot> sam_: you will be asked for it at a later step
[09:47] <m1bxd> I've looked but I can't phrase the right question. With v11.10 Unity - How on earth do you run the same application in a different workspace?
[09:48] <kapz> Hi all! I installed ubuntu 11.10 on VM and I have a few Questions...how to check which unity version I am using(I have completely updated my system)? Is unity 5.2 stable and availabe via normal update or I need to add a ppa? Thanks
[09:48] <sherif> krised is there a key to open terminal without clicking
[09:48] <Jordan_U> m1bxd: Do you mean for instance having one Firefox Window in one workspace and another in another?
[09:48] <sam_> iceroot: ok thanks i'll give it a try
[09:48] <m1bxd> Jordan_U - precisely
[09:48] <krised> sherif well i belive you can set your own shortcut key combos
[09:49] <dns53>  sherif ctr + alt + t
[09:49] <linocisco> Stanley00: setfont /usr/share/consolefonts/<name_of_font>.psf.gz . where to find that gz file?
[09:49] <Jordan_U> m1bxd: This should work with almost any window manager, ctrl+alt+shift+arrow-key to move a window to another workspace.
[09:49] <sherif> dns53 ty, there was a command of 4 letters n got r n p something like that to open GUI
[09:50] <m1bxd> Jordan_U - I'll just try it
[09:50] <kapz> umm how to find out version of unity in use/installed?
[09:50] <Stanley00> linocisco: you can use ls to list the fonts in that dir
[09:50] <iceroot> kapz: dpkg -l unity
[09:50] <linocisco> Stanley00: ls -l?
[09:51] <dale> Anyone got a fix for the crackling audio problem, audio is VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237A/VT8251 HDA Controller (rev 10)
[09:51] <kapz> iceroot: thanks, also is unity 5.2 available through normal update process?
[09:51] <Stanley00> linocisco: yep
[09:52] <iceroot> kapz: i dont think to it will be backported
[09:52] <dns53> sherif what was your question?
[09:52] <kapz> !?! what does that mean?
[09:53] <m1bxd> jordan_u - nope, it just flicks you back to your original workspace
[09:53] <sherif> dns53 i forgot a command that was from 4 letters like pprm that open like interface settings u remeber it?
[09:53] <iceroot> kapz: normally you will never get a newer version within one ubuntu-release, just security fixes
[09:53] <iceroot> kapz: but i am not sure how unity is handled in that case
[09:54] <theantislim> Morning, all.
[09:54] <soham> with new ubuntu 11.10 released i ask the gurus about some review.
[09:55] <Jordan_U> m1bxd: Ctrl+alt+shift+right will move the current window one workspace to the right, and will also switch you one workspace to the right. This can be confusing with maximized windows as it appears nothing has happened.
[09:55] <dns53> sherif no idea
[09:55] <kapz> iceroot: I get it now, btw my next imp Q: Is there a way to copy and migrate ubuntu? You see I installed ubuntu 32 bit and updated all the things..now I want to install ubuntu on a 32 bit desktop, but it doesn't have network connectivity, so can I just copy/paste ubuntu from VM to HDD?
[09:55] <iceroot> kapz: yes
[09:55] <iceroot> !clone | kapz
[09:56] <iceroot> kapz: hm that is not the correct text
[09:56] <iceroot> kapz: you can do it with "clonezilla" or "dd" for a starter i would suggest clonezilla if you want a disk-dump
[09:56] <dale> Anyone got a fix for the crackling audio problem, audio is VT8237A/VT8251 HDA Controller, Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel
[09:56] <iceroot> dale: you have a bug for that?
[09:56] <soham> i have installed GVim on ubuntu 11.04 but somehow I'm I'm not able to find the shortcut to start it. what am I doing wrong. please help
[09:57] <m1bxd> jordan - you'll really have to hold my hand here! Open FireFox C-a-s-r -> new workspace -> Open another FireFox - FireFox comes up, but I can only see one instance
[09:57] <kapz> iceroot: no I will have different partition size on original machine...will just update fstab...but what else is needed?
[09:57] <dale> iceroot: You mean it's a bug?
[09:57] <iceroot> dale: i dont know
[09:57] <iceroot> dale: but if there is no bug normally the devs will not see it
[09:58] <dale> iceroot: ok
[09:58] <theantislim> !automate
[09:58] <m1bxd> Jordan - I keep thinking it most be a simpel Compiz setting I have mised
[09:58] <theantislim> !cloning
[09:58] <iceroot> !bug | dale
[09:58] <Wobbo> I am trying to view a MP4 (MPEG4-video, 1920x1080, 30f/s) but its stuttering. My mobile has no problems, why doesn't my Ubuntu 11.04 doesn't show it smoothly. Anyone have a tip to solve it?
[09:58] <theantislim> hmm
[09:58] <georgedo> Matriux-Krypton virtual machine cannot find wireless networks. Latest network interface tools are installed. Can anyone help?
[09:58] <dale> iceroot: thanks.
[09:59] <kapz> wow you're a nice gal! :)
[10:00] <huwshimi> Hi, I have a USB audio interface (Presonus 44vsl), but Ubuntu is not recognising it fully. If I run "cat /proc/asound/cards" it shows the usb interface, but "aplay -l" does not. Any suggestions on how I might start debugging this?
[10:01] <Krised> iceroot ive installed lxdm on top of lightdm.. big mistake.. where do i reconfig it to use lightdm instead ? i can ONLY boot in via a livecd so i need the config file
[10:01] <Chotaz> y
[10:02] <iceroot> Krised: imo "sudo update-alternatives lightdm" should work
[10:03] <Krised> iceroot but wont that only work if im booted up on the system i should be installing to ?
[10:03] <iceroot> Krised: chroot into the system
[10:04] <iceroot> Krised: i dont know what file is managing which (gdm, lightdm, lxdm) is used
[10:04] <Krised> ok thanks
[10:05] <Steevca> Excuse me,can i get support for joli os here?
[10:05] <oCean> Steevca: nope, this is only ubuntu support
[10:06] <Steevca> Ok,i thought because it's based on ubuntu that you can help me.
[10:07] <iceroot> Steevca: no
[10:07] <theadmin> Steevca: Certain distros make changes we're not aware of. Joli uses their own kernel, which is a HUGE change, and they completely changed the interface, so nope.
[10:07] <theadmin> Steevca: This channel only supports the following systems: Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Edubuntu and Ubuntu Studio
[10:08] <theadmin> ...I'm not so sure about the last one actually
[10:08] <iceroot> Steevca: its like "#debian will not support ubuntu-issues just because ubuntu is based on debian"
[10:08] <Steevca> Ok :D
[10:10] <theadmin> Really, now, this is something I forgot... Is Ubuntu Studio an officially supported Ubuntu deriv?
[10:10] <m1bxd> jordan
[10:11] <iceroot> theadmin: yes
[10:11] <Steevca> Can you just tell me the terminal command for installing a driver from a flah drive?
[10:11] <Steevca> Is that the same? :D
[10:11] <theadmin> iceroot: Thanks
[10:11] <theadmin> Steevca: sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb
[10:11] <Steevca> theadmin Thaks.
[10:12] <theadmin> !ops | kackemann is flooding offensive things via PM
[10:13] <Krised> iceroot i cant just do sudo chroot /media/<long ID string>
[10:13] <Rehhoff> Any admins operators online here ?
[10:13] <Krised> yeah there is
[10:13] <iceroot> Krised: why?
[10:13] <Krised> if its kackermann flooding offensive pms he is reported
[10:14] <Rehhoff> oooh
[10:14] <Rehhoff> okay its that :)
[10:14] <JustMozzy> hey guys. I have a lenovo sl500. according to specs all my usb ports should be 2.0, however when I lsusb only two are shown to be 2.0 and when I connect my external hard disk things are uber slow. can anyone help out?
[10:14] <theadmin> Krised: use tab to complete long filenames, say, if the filename is "ifqopfqioq" you can type "ifq<tab>" and get that :D
[10:14] <Krised> iceroot it says no such file or
[10:14] <Rehhoff> can't you just ban the dude or ?
[10:14] <iceroot> Krised: sounds like you misstyped it or have whitespaces in the path
[10:14] <theadmin> Krised: So, sudo chroot /media/first_few_letters<tab>
[10:14] <Krised> theadmin i did copypaste.. shouldnt i go into its root dir or just the mountet id ?
[10:15] <iceroot> Krised: sudo chroot "/media/foo bar"
[10:15] <theadmin> Krised: Ah yeah, point, take the name in quotes
[10:16] <elky> Rehhoff, which one? I just banned one who was PM spamming?
[10:16] <Krised> theadmin when i look at the nautilus and hit ctrl L i get the location /media/<string> but that isnt found in /media folder looking in terminal
[10:16] <Rehhoff> kackermann was the dude spmmaing offensive pms
[10:16] <theadmin> Krised: Uuuuuh... That hardly makes any sense. ls /media/ # Don't see it listed?
[10:16] <Wobbo> Wobbo
[10:17] <Krised> theadmin just shows cdrom and my usb stick
[10:17] <theadmin> Krised: mmk then, can you paste the "long id string"?
[10:17] <Krised> but in nautilus i get the harddrive
[10:17] <elky> Rehhoff, yes, i banned that person, i can't stop them from PMing you, the staff of the network are in #freenode though if it's still happening
[10:17] <Krised> theadmin its on another computer
[10:18] <theadmin> Krised: Meh anyway, does it look like a bunch of hex numbers (that is 0-9, A-F) with dashes?
[10:18] <Krised> theadmin yes.. ill just see if i can check the partition name in gparted
[10:18] <theadmin> Krised: Cool. sudo mount /dev/disk/by-uuid/the_long_id_string /mnt && sudo chroot /mnt
[10:19] <Krised> theadmin problem: it cant resolve host ubuntu.. aparently my sudo doesnt work.. since i booted up on livecd and im trying to fix my broken login manager (i want lightDM back instead of lxdm
[10:19] <gry2> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-993262.html last post is my problem, no video in skype?
[10:20] <theadmin> Krised: You don't really need a livecd for that, boot to the "broken" system, hit Ctrl-Alt-F2, log in and do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm"
[10:21] <Krised> theadmin ok ill try that ty
[10:22] <ZooMonkey> Hey you guys - I'm working on this project I have obtained some DIFFs I have to apply for!!! I have the src Tar. My diffs are in a TXT file tho. Do I just rename this as a diff? The file starts as "diff".
[10:23] <theadmin> ZooMonkey: The file extension usually doesn't matter so you can probably keep those as they are
[10:23] <ZooMonkey> Do I put it in root of the unfolded pack? How do I know where to run it / ?
[10:23] <Phil___> Ok, got the wireless working.  Awesome.  Thanks to all the folks who helped.
[10:23] <theadmin> ZooMonkey: See "man patch" and other things like that.
[10:24] <ZooMonkey> OK Thx theadmin :)
[10:24] <sam_> iceroot: i'm trying to report a bug using ubuntu-bug as you recommended earlier, but i've been redirected to a page that says "Please wait while bug data is processed. This page will refresh every 10 seconds until processing is complete."
[10:24] <sam_> iceroot: it's been here for about 15 or 20 minutes now...is it supposed to take this long?
[10:25] <Krised> theadmin damn man youre a linux guru.. would you happen to know if i can change the lightDM login "Other" to another name ?
[10:25] <theadmin> sam_: Hm no, can you try to force-refresh the page manually (ctrl-f5)?
[10:25] <theadmin> Krised: Nah probably not without recompiling from source
[10:25] <Phil___> Now, I don't suppose someone could help me find the proper nvidia drivers and such?  I enabled the recommended nvidia driver, but under system info it says my graphics driver is 'unknown'
[10:26] <Krised> theadmin its ok. I just gotta remember saving all my shit first and burn a working copy of it.
[10:26] <iceroot> sam_: no maybe 10-30 seconds
[10:26] <sam_> theadmin: refreshing doesn't seem to change much...it seems to be refreshing every 10 seconds as it says, the problem is that it never stops refreshing :P
[10:26] <theadmin> sam_: Hm... This is weird
[10:27] <sam_> theadmin: maybe i'll try to run ubuntu-bug again
[10:27] <theadmin> Krised: K, sure thing
[10:27] <theadmin> sam_: Yeah, sure :)
[10:27] <tom453642356> Hello: I would like to do a simple comparison of 2 directory heirarchies - checking the have the same files and file sizes.. Could someone tell me how please?
[10:29] <theadmin> tom453642356: Hm, this is a bit messy but will work and show you the differences if any: ls -l1 dir1 > list1 ; ls -l1 dir2 > list2 ; diff list1 list2
[10:29] <theadmin> Ah, wait, sizes
[10:29] <theadmin> Hmm
[10:30] <theadmin> Do the same trick but with df for the sizes I think
[10:30] <tom453642356> theadmin: ls -l1 won't work because it shows file modification times
[10:30] <theadmin> tom453642356: Ah
[10:30] <theadmin> tom453642356: Yeah that's true... hmmm...
[10:30] <theadmin> tom453642356: err... Huh, this seems to work: diff dir1 dir2
[10:31] <tom453642356> theadmin diff dir1 dir2 - it doesn't work because it reads the file data (every single byte) and takes forever. i don't want to real 100gb of file contents....
[10:31] <tom453642356> -real +read
[10:31] <abys> Can somebody tell me why psk="hex" is needed in wpa_supplicant ? Why cant i just put the psk in normal code?
[10:32] <tom453642356> i also tried meld - it has same problem - reads every single byte of files
[10:32] <theadmin> tom453642356: Huh. I see. Then just use ls + df with files as shown above, shouldn't be too hard. Just take the -l out, use simply -1
[10:33] <tom453642356> theadmin: ls -l on my computer is showing modification time, that will be different
[10:33] <sam_> theadmin, iceroot: thanks guys that worked
[10:33] <sam_> theadmin, iceroot: i've got one more question though
[10:33] <theadmin> tom453642356: As stated, get rid of the -l and just use "ls -1"
[10:33] <sam_> theadmin, iceroot: i actually created a bug for this problem yesterday (but didn't mark it against a package)
[10:34] <tom453642356> sorry i will try that thanks
[10:34] <sam_> theadmin, iceroot: can i report this bug without opening up a new issue?
[10:34] <sam_> theadmin, iceroot: alternatively is there a way to remove the old bug from launchpad/
[10:34] <sam_> ?
[10:35] <iceroot> sam_: please show the bug url
[10:35] <tom453642356> if diff displays nothing that means they match right? :)
[10:35] <iceroot> tom453642356: yes
[10:35] <theadmin> tom453642356: Yeah
[10:35] <sam_> iceroot: this is the old bug report (without the extra stuff that ubuntu-bug adds): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/927120
[10:35] <tom453642356> theadmin: thanks heaps for your help
[10:35] <Nepherius> what's a good alternative to desktop recorder ?
[10:36] <theadmin> tom453642356: np
[10:36] <iceroot> sam_: and you have also a new bug for that against linux?
[10:37] <sam_> iceroot: when i reported that first bug (927120), i got an automated response saying to report the bug against a specific package
[10:37] <iceroot> sam_: and you have also a new bug for that against linux?
[10:37] <sam_> iceroot: and so now i've done that by using "ubuntu-bug linux", which seems to be creating a new bug
[10:37] <sam_> iceroot: no its just the one bug
[10:37] <iceroot> sam_: please the link of the new bug
[10:38] <iceroot> sam_: you created with "ubuntu-bug linux" i will merge them
[10:39] <sam_> iceroot: ok thanks, here it is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/927535
[10:39] <sam_> iceroot: i put the same summary/description in both bugs; hope that doesn't confuse anyone...
[10:39] <hc96> Hi! My Ubuntu has just crashed. First Firefox hung up, now the mouse doesn't move anymore. No keypress works (e.g. Strg-Alt+F1 for console). what should I do? I dont want to press reset.
[10:40] <hc96> ssh connection doesn't get refused, but also not accepted (no message)
[10:40] <m1bxd> jordan_U solved with http://askubuntu.com/questions/75242/persistent-window-placement
[10:43] <iceroot> sam_: done
[10:43] <iceroot> launchpad is very slow today :(
[10:44] <JustMozzy> Was just wondering and probably the answer is no but is it possible to change a disk's file system without formatting it?
[10:44] <sam_> iceroot: thanks for all your help with that!
[10:44] <iceroot> sam_: you are welcome
[10:44] <iceroot> JustMozzy: no
[10:44] <iceroot> JustMozzy: formating = change the format
[10:44] <JustMozzy> iceroot, thought so, thanks :)
[10:45] <iceroot> JustMozzy: there was something like "migrate from ext2 to ext3" without losing the data but i never looked at it very depply
[10:45] <iceroot> deeply
[10:47] <n3tw0rk3r> hi all... guys can someone help me? i'm tryin' to import .cer certificates in Ubuntu 11.10
[10:47] <n3tw0rk3r> what shoul i do?
[10:50] <mikubuntu> my hp deskjet printer sounds like its printing, but nothing comes out ... there IS one message that flashes momentarily that says tri color cartridge is low, but i'm trying to print black only
[10:51] <mikubuntu> the paper feeds in, and the heads are going back and forth, but the paper comes out blank
[10:53] <Tm_T> mikubuntu: so it's printing invisible ink, check your ink levels and that the print heads are clean
[10:55] <ksinkar> hello guys
[10:55] <aeropig> hello
[10:55] <ksinkar> while install ubuntu with a nvidia graphic card
[10:55] <ksinkar> ubuntu 11.10 to be specific
[10:55] <aeropig> I am using 12.10 now.
[10:55] <aeropig> 12.04
[10:56] <oCean> aeropig: Precise/12.04 is not yet released (still alpha). Please /join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion
[10:56] <ksinkar> my installation gets stuck at Stopping SystemV runlevel compatibility
[10:56] <ksinkar> any idea why this happens?
[10:56] <clockwize> hey guys, I'm trying to set up a cron job that runs every month on the 11th at 2am, I've used an online helper to generate the syntax for this, but when I validate it, it says bad day-of-week... My expression is: 0 0 2 11 1/1 ? *
[10:57] <anudaasa> hello
[10:57] <Pupuser> Anyone else having problems with 11.10 using tons of CPU processing when nothing is happening?
[10:57] <mcb_2> clockwize: 00 02 11 * * <command>
[10:57] <iceroot> Pupuser: please be more specific
[10:58] <iceroot> Pupuser: what process is using so much cpu
[10:59] <JustMozzy> Is there a way to defragment fat32 disks on ubuntu? I got now windows machine
[11:00] <clockwize> mcb_2: I was using http://www.cronmaker.com/ why isn't this giving me the correct result?
[11:01] <atm_> hi someone can help? i wish to see the content of a desktop notification that already disappear from the screen. thanks
[11:01] <chroot> is there any software that can record the cmd user input to a file?
[11:02] <mcb_2> clockwize: I dont know the site, but cron sintaxe is as follow: minutes  hour   day_of_month month day_of_the_week   <command>.
[11:02] <mikubuntu> Tm_T  how do you know if the print heads are clean?
[11:02] <clockwize> thanks, just noticed on that site it says its for "quartz cron format" whatever that is :p
[11:02] <anudaasa> function of cron is ok
[11:04] <mcb_2> chroot: The user history should do that, it will be located in /home/<user>/.bash_history
[11:04] <chroot> yeah, right , and script will too.
[11:05] <chroot> but i want to record the passwd you input
[11:05] <anudaasa> yes, history is in bash_history :-)
[11:05] <ice10001> Lo all
[11:05] <chroot> that's history and script cann't handle
[11:05] <ice10001> anyone here who can help on a zubuntu 64 (11.10) proxy prob?
[11:05] <ice10001> xubuntu *
[11:05] <anudaasa> chroot, why record someone password ?
[11:05] <chroot> you know  passwd is not echo to user?
[11:06] <chroot> to protect my system from hackers
[11:06] <atm_> can i see a desktop notification second time?
[11:06] <chroot> they will use the same method to get my  password
[11:07] <mcb_2> chroot: So what you want is a keylogger, not to record commands that are imputed....
[11:08] <atm_> someone can help?
[11:08] <chroot> mcb_2, is keylogger a software or command?
[11:09] <anudaasa> atm, notification about what ?
[11:09] <damo22> is it possible to chroot into an environment as a normal user, and gain root privileges?
[11:10] <atm_> in portuguese something like another user is using you work area
[11:10] <mcb_2> Its not a name of any software in particular.... Its like saying that you need an antivirus. Keyloggers are a specific kind of software. Got what I mean?
[11:11] <mcb_2> chrrot: Its not a name of any software in particular.... Its like saying that you need an antivirus. Keyloggers are a specific kind of software. Got what I mean?
[11:11] <anudaasa> atm, you can use firewall
[11:12] <theadmin> !test
[11:12] <mcb_2> chroot: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystroke_logging
[11:12] <theadmin> Oh, my scrollbar got stuck xD
[11:12] <chroot> mcb_2, yes, i think so.
[11:13] <atm_> ok, but is there a way to see that message again, is it saved somewhere?
[11:13] <theadmin> damo22: Technically yes, since a normal user can grab a livecd and boot. But other than that, well, the "chroot" command needs root priveleges.
[11:14] <atm_> because it where a ip address in the message.
[11:15] <Krised> hmm I got a 500GB external hdd which the disktool in ubuntu tells me is not in a good shape. I cant mount it. is there any way to recover the filesystem without deleting the files on it ?
[11:15] <anudaasa> atm, you have problem and dont know, if someone other is on your computer ?
[11:16] <theadmin> Krised: Try Testdisk (disk recovery) or Photorec (file recovery), both are part of the "testdisk" package in APT
[11:16] <Krised> theadmin thanks
[11:22] <atm_> the computer seems ok but i m curious about that message. I think that is because i have de remote desktop enabled and permission of third's control enabled. One thing that i want to know too is if there is a way to see the content of that notification message in some kind of a history file or some.
[11:22] <anudaasa> i have question, is there posibility, to backup open file ?
[11:23] <anudaasa> atm, aha
[11:23] <anudaasa> atm, maybe log of remote desktop program
[11:23] <sKew^_-> i i got an question what is the difrent betwine BT5 and BT5R1 ?
[11:24] <vadrao> Hi all, does any one know if the gcc version thats shipped with ubuntu 11.10 comes with openmp support ? I am trying to compile a tool called monitor (http://icl.cs.utk.edu/~mucci/monitor/) and I get the following error. http://pastebin.com/NKw1uu5T
[11:24] <atm_> and where i con find that log file?
[11:25] <Gentoo64> sKew^_-, read the changelog
[11:26] <anudaasa> atm, try to go to directory of program
[11:26] <atm_> ok
[11:26] <anudaasa> atm, or go to logs directory
[11:26] <sKew^_-> Gentoo64, i did, only thing i understand is that it's VMware
[11:28] <Gentoo64> sKew^_-, http://www.backtrack-linux.org/backtrack/backtrack-5-r1-released/
[11:28] <Gentoo64> this isnt backtrack support channel though
[11:28] <anudaasa> is there some group, which do some open project ?
[11:28] <anudaasa> i want participate
[11:30] <sKew^_-> Gentoo64, i know sorry for asking :/
[11:30] <Gentoo64> its ok
[11:31] <sKew^_-> Gentoo64, isent gentoo a distro?
[11:31] <Gentoo64> yea
[11:32] <sKew^_-> okey, and you know ubuntu aswell?
[11:32] <vmuser> So I have installed Ubuntu 11.0 in virtualbox running on windows. How can I get the resolution to change when I maximize the window or change the size of it?
[11:32] <Gentoo64> sKew^_-, i try to help wth some stuff
[11:33] <sKew^_-> thats cool :)
[11:33] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[11:33] <sKew^_-> presiate that
[11:33] <lasher> I would like to install Windows for school. Sda1 is extended for my linux install. Can I install Win7 to sda3 or is it possible to re map the partitions so that sda3 becomes sda1?
[11:34] <optikfluffel> hey guys.. we have a little problem installing/upgrading to ubuntu 11.10 on an emachines G725.. the display stays dark.. we can see the content but only with a lighter xD do you have any idea what goes wrong there?
[11:34] <sKew^_-> Ohw a Link betwene two ircd's
[11:35] <n3uron_> optikfluffel, add pci=noacpi in grub and try with that
[11:35] <anudaasa> optik, instaling or upgrading ?
[11:39] <vadrao> Hi all, does any one know if the gcc version thats shipped with ubuntu 11.10 comes with openmp support ? I am trying to compile a tool called monitor (http://icl.cs.utk.edu/~mucci/monitor/) and I get the following error. http://pastebin.com/NKw1uu5T
[11:44] <alkamid> does anyone experience this strange behaviour in Oneiric: when I resume from suspension, sometimes it logs me out instead of just resuming
[11:44] <alkamid> I have seen someone reporting a similar problem somewhere, but it hasn't been solved
[11:46] <chroot> hi, how to send mail use command line?
[11:47] <Arnold> vadrao, do you have lib32gomp1 and libgomp1 packages installed?
[11:49] <yurka_> chroot: sendmail
[11:49] <yurka_> or even «mail»
[11:49] <chroot> i tried that , the system want me install a MTA, but i don't know which MTA?
[11:50] <theadmin> chroot: Try mutt if you're using a public mail service
[11:51] <chroot> theadmin, nice see you again, i am installing mutt now.
[11:52] <jrib> chroot: mutt is not an mta, it's a mua.  Try exim, postfix, or sendmail if you want a "full" mail server.  Otherwise, use something like msmtp (you only want to send mail)
[11:52] <theadmin> jrib: (s)he appears to simply want to send mail via a public service
[11:53] <chroot> jrib, i just want to send and recieve mail from command line, so i can't get rid of the GUI.
[11:53] <jrib> chroot: if you want an MTA, mutt is not an mta.  But if you want to simply use google servers to send mail, then yes you can do that through mutt
[11:54] <jrib> (google or some other smtp server)
[11:54] <chroot> jrib, ok, i am trying .
[11:55] <paulus68> how do you backup your windows folders with rsnapshot?
[11:55] <chroot> jrib, Please install an MTA on this system if you want to use sendmail!
[11:55] <chroot> Can't send mail: sendmail process failed with error code 255
[11:55] <chroot> i got this
[11:56] <chroot> warning
[11:56] <paulus68> !enter |chroot
[11:56] <jrib> chroot: if you want to use that command, then you need an MTA.
[11:56] <yurka_> http://giver.pcn.ru/unity-ck.png -- i have such problem with unity, it starts nearly after month of uptime. only reboot fixes it, but i do not want to reboot
[11:57] <chroot> jrib,  which mta should i install, i dont know the name.
[11:57] <yurka_> in some cases dash appears
[11:57] <jrib> chroot: use msmtp
[11:57] <yurka_> many many cases...
[11:57] <villa> probably my gnome-panel is crashed. How could I resolve it?
[12:00] <chroot> jrib, i installed msmtp, then what should i do
[12:00] <jrib> chroot: then read its documentation on how to set it up
[12:01] <chroot> wow, seems a lot of work.
[12:01] <lasher> I would like to install Windows for school. Sda1 is extended for my linux install. Can I install Win7 to sda3 or is it possible to re map the partitions so that sda3 becomes sda1?
[12:02] <paulus68> lasher: best way in my opinion is to start clean install windows first and then linux or use virtualbox to install windows 7 in there
[12:03] <lasher> yeh, i dont want to do that thnx though paul
[12:06] <fabiobik> i dont know why when i open the terminal appears only $
[12:08] <fabio> hi
[12:09] <fabio> i dont know why when i open the terminal appears only $
[12:09] <fabio> whats happen?
[12:10] <andrew_> nick neopsyche
[12:10] <neopsyche>  hi all.. can anyone help with google earth issue?
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> fabio  type bash
[12:11] <neopsyche> need to edit .conf file but it does not seem to exist yet
[12:11] <neopsyche> ?
[12:11] <jrib> neopsyche: create it?
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> neopsyche  look in ~/.config/Google
[12:13] <neopsyche> jrib: unfortunately the noobness causes me to not know how to get to  ~/.config/Google using both sudo su and ordinary login shows no file
[12:13] <neopsyche> gedit ~/.config/Google/GoogleEarthPlus.conf
[12:13] <neopsyche>   trying this gets blank page?
[12:13] <jrib> neopsyche:  what are you reading that has you looking for this file?
[12:13] <neopsyche> jrib: one moment...
[12:14] <neopsyche> http://www.techdrivein.com/2010/11/easy-fix-for-google-earth-crash-while.html
[12:14] <jrib> neopsyche: if you are creating the file, then you would expect it to be blank
[12:15] <neopsyche> jrib : apparently it has already been created
[12:15] <Dr_Willis_O_Love> be sure you are spelling the name right - Case Is imporntant in Linux
[12:16] <andyhuzhill> ubuntu-cn
[12:17] <neopsyche> how can i insert path in file browser?
[12:17] <neopsyche> (gnome)
[12:17] <h12> salam
[12:17] <crizzy> neopsyche: ctrl-l
[12:17] <vmuser> How do I configure my resolution in ubuntu?
[12:18] <neopsyche> crizzy thanks
[12:18] <ErvisTusha> vmuser, nvidia ?
[12:18] <neopsyche> crizzy.. help http://www.techdrivein.com/2010/11/easy-fix-for-google-earth-crash-while.html
[12:18] <ErvisTusha> vmuser, overscan ?
[12:18] <h12> hi
[12:19] <h12> heloo whorld :D
[12:19] <neopsyche> crizzy: cant find .conf file
[12:19] <vmuser> virtualbox
[12:19] <vmuser> ErvisTusha: virtualbox
[12:19] <crizzy> create it if it doesn't exist?
[12:19] <h12> whois
[12:20] <neopsyche> crizzy: dont have knowledge of what is needed in file
[12:20] <ErvisTusha> vmuser, have you install guest additions ?
[12:20] <vmuser> yeah I have
[12:21] <crizzy> neopsyche: i haven't used google earth tbh, no idea. however alt-f2and: gedit ~/.config/Google/GoogleEarthPlus.conf <enter>
[12:21] <vmuser> ErvisTusha: Yes I have it's improved performance but nothing has changed resolution wise. With Debian I can just install it and it dynamically changes the resolution to the window
[12:21] <vmuser> Do I have to restart virtualbox itself?
[12:21] <fiki196> guys i need help,whenever i plug/unplugg my power supply for my laptop my ubuntu crashes(there like a console terminal)
[12:21] <Dr_Willis_O_Love> vmuser:  yes I think you would.
[12:22] <Dr_Willis_O_Love> The guest addations basically install a special driver for X to use that supports special features i recall.
[12:22] <vmuser> yeah and I restarted the virtual machine
[12:22] <ErvisTusha> after install you should reboot VM
[12:23] <vmuser> everything but the resolution has improved
[12:23] <neopsyche> it seems i cant access .conf ?
[12:23] <vmuser> and I can't change it above 1024 * 768 on a 1080p monitor
[12:23] <Dr_Willis_O_Love> id check the vbox forum threads and docs,
[12:23] <neopsyche> i dont understand the file system or where the file would be
[12:23] <Dr_Willis_O_Love> I normally run other os's in vbox on ubuntu. not the other way around.
[12:23] <vmuser> ErvisTusha: is there a file I can manually edit?
[12:24] <fiki196> guys i need help,whenever i plug/unplugg my power supply for my laptop my ubuntu crashes(there like a console terminal)
[12:25] <ErvisTusha> vmuser, your guest host is  linux (ubuntu) ?
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> guest host?
[12:25] <ErvisTusha> VM
[12:25] <zvacet> is Ubunut host or guest
[12:26] <neopsyche> anyone help with google earth issue?
[12:26] <vmuser> ErvisTusha: yes
[12:27] <ErvisTusha> gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:31] <vmuser> ErvisTusha: no such file exists...
[12:33] <Dr_Willis_O_Love> X auto configures for the most part. so if no xorg.conf exists. it just uses the X defaults
[12:33] <vmuser> Ervis: got it working.. I'm still perplexed as to where my xorg.conf file is
[12:34] <Dr_Willis_O_Love> If it exists /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:34] <Baribal> Hi. Yesterday I installed a few synthesizers and, by extension, jackd. Today I try to watch YouTube-videos, to play MP3s and so on, using mplayer and totem, and they just fast-forward through the files without outputting sound. What did I break, and how?
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> vmuser  type locate xorg.conf
[12:35] <neopsyche> ok.. there are a couple of people saying the file does not even exist or is not in that location.. and others saying it is.. http://www.techdrivein.com/2010/11/easy-fix-for-google-earth-crash-while.html
[12:35] <neopsyche> anyone?
[12:35] <jrib> neopsyche: look at the date on what you are reading?
[12:36] <Dr_Willis_O_Love> it does NOT have to exist neopsyche  - If it does. X uses it.. if it does not X auto configures
[12:36] <neopsyche> dr willis.. not sure if i understand
[12:36] <Dr_Willis_O_Love> X can use a minmal xorg.conf to tweak specific settings.
[12:36] <Dr_Willis_O_Love> neopsyche:  it does NOT have to exist.. whats not to understand?
[12:36] <jrib> neopsyche: anyway, create the file and put what that site says.  If it works, great.  If not then either the file location moved, tha "fix" does not apply to your situation, or the configuration option changed
[12:36] <Dr_Willis_O_Love> It can be there, or not.
[12:36] <neopsyche> jrib: yes but i am using 10.4
[12:37] <jrib> neopsyche: google earth version would be relevant not ubuntu version
[12:37] <neopsyche> dr willis.. I need the file to disable google earth tips which crashes google earth on 10.4
[12:37] <neopsyche> jrib: oh i see
[12:37] <vmuser> Does anyone know how to get tabbed browsing in ubuntu 11.0?
[12:37] <hydester> i just installed xubuntu 11.10 via USB to a new matchine (SATA 3g drive on P8Z68-V LX MB).  at reboot i just get a blinking cursor and no shift or anything gets me in.  i can boot via USB and can see my install.  is there anything funny when running on SATA?
[12:37] <Dr_Willis_O_Love> neopsyche:  then you need to create  it.
[12:37] <neopsyche> jrib: latest.
[12:37] <Dr_Willis_O_Love> vmuser:  most browsers support tabbed browseing these days.
[12:38] <fidel> vmuser: tabbed browsing as in?
[12:38] <vmuser> Sorry, I mean tabbed consoles
[12:38] <fidel> vmuser: depends on the terminal you use
[12:38] <hydester> vmuser - ctrl-shift-T ?
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> idd
[12:38] <Dr_Willis_O_Love> vmuser:  theres differnt terminal-emulators that support it also. gnome-terminal does. I perfer terminator.
[12:38] <neopsyche> ok.. i see there is a group about this on google .. perhaps there is an answer there
[12:38] <Dr_Willis_O_Love> many of the old-scool ones do not. ie: xterm, rxvterm
[12:38] <vmuser> sexy!
[12:39] <vmuser> Thankyou
[12:39] <Dr_Willis_O_Love> the default gnome-terminal has tabs. :) terminator expands on gnome-terminals features
[12:41] <Kartagis> is it possible to take a screenshot with any menu open?
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> Kartagis  open a menu and press PrtSc
[12:42] <Baribal> Kartagis, should be trivial by pressing "Print screen".
[12:42] <jatt> of course
[12:42] <glebihan> Kartagis, open the screenshot tool and use a timeout
[12:43] <Kartagis> MonkeyDust, Baribal: I've tried, no luck
[12:43] <jatt> set the timeout, trigger the screenshot, open the menu
[12:43] <jatt> no?
[12:44] <Kartagis> hmm, it worked, thanks
[12:44] <norek> Jest tu kto ?
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> !english
[12:48] <n3uron_> I've just got a I/O issue, superblock problem, sdb3... how do i "fix" this, any ideas?
[12:49] <jatt> !badblocks
[12:50] <kelvin> hi
[12:50] <jatt> !fsck
[12:51] <n3uron_> jatt, i check it with "hdd regenerator" and it found 1 bad sector only...
[12:51] <kelvin> hi
[12:51] <n3uron_> anyway, ill try that, thanks jatt
[12:52] <jatt> once you begin to get badsectors better move your data to another device
[12:53] <Krised> hehe i got same problem with a portable 500GB drive.. its starting to say tick tick noises when i check the drive
[12:54] <jatt> backup
[12:54] <jatt> asap
[12:55] <Guest1324> I've a q,what does gfx mean in "set gfxpayload=text"?
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> graphics
[12:56] <Guest1324> ah,thank u
[12:56] <angelete2> hi
[12:57] <angelete2> i have a ubuntu server with two network adapters eth0:212.183.206.1626 and eth1: 192.168.1.136
[12:57] <alin|mobile> if have the following problem!  i have a cronjob which executes a bash-script; how can i make the script check if it is already running or not; because now i have the problem that some applications become start twice
[12:58] <jatt> !fsck
[12:58] <n3uron_> thanks again jatt
[12:59] <Guest1324> how is "initramfs shell" different from bash/csh?
[12:59] <Pessimist> alin|mobile: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-624043.html
[12:59] <alin|mobile> thx a lot
[13:01] <MeanEYE__> I am missing python module named gnome.ui in 11.10. I need ThumbnailFactory class from there. Any other way of getting since this module is not available anymore?
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> !info guile-gnome2-gnome-ui
[13:02] <kelvin> hi
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> MeanEYE__  developer question?
[13:04] <MeanEYE__> MonkeyDust, Yeah. Pretty much. I used that class and now it's missing. Anyway of getting it from non-gnome2 libs?
[13:05] <kelvin> hi
[13:06] <MonkeyDust> kelvin  4 times you said hi, do you have a question?
[13:06] <kelvin> yes
[13:06] <kelvin> i have ubuntu 11.10
[13:06] <kelvin> in which i couldnt found /etc/host
[13:06] <kelvin> should it be there ?
[13:06] <MonkeyDust> MeanEYE__  "#python Channel is open."
[13:06] <MeanEYE__> kelvin, it's /etc/hosts (with s)
[13:06] <Pumpkin-> kelvin: hosts (with the s)
[13:06] <MeanEYE__> MonkeyDust, thanks!
[13:07] <kelvin> with s also its not there
[13:07] <kelvin> only two option
[13:07] <kelvin> hal and hp
[13:08] <Pici> !enter
[13:08] <kelvin> k...
[13:09] <RKyle> Hi, is it possible to recover a password remotely on Ubuntu Server?
[13:10] <uw_> how are connected to the server?
[13:10] <RKyle> ssh
[13:10] <kelvin> i have ubuntu 11.10 in which i could nt found /etc/hosts... only two option is there -- hal and hp
[13:10] <Krised> I would think that you could just set a new password ? unless the users homedir is crypted
[13:10] <uw_> and you are logged in?
[13:10] <RKyle> I have access to a non-admin account but my account with root access I forgot the password to.
[13:11] <uw_> do you have another system on there you can chroot into?
[13:11] <Krised> RKyle then i dont think its possible. Youd have to have physical access to it.
[13:11] <kelvin> i have ubuntu 11.10 in which i could nt found /etc/hosts... only two option is there -- hal and hp
[13:11] <kalgecin> kelvin, reinstall
[13:12] <RKyle> Krised, I keep reading about the physical access method but I'm 1,700 miles away. =(
[13:12] <kelvin> what should i reinstall ??? whole OS
[13:12] <uw_> yes kelvin
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> RKyle  scroll down : http://www.computing.net/answers/linux/linux-user-and-password-recovery/28701.html
[13:14] <kalgecin> kelvin, yes the whole OS
[13:14] <RKyle> MonkeyDust, Scroll down to what?
[13:14] <kalgecin> kelvin, /etc has about 270 files
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> RKyle  to the Knoppix part, i guess you can use any live cd, the page dates from 2006
[13:15] <Zw> Hi!
[13:15] <uw_> yes?
[13:15] <Zw> ;)
[13:15] <RKyle> MonkeyDust, I don't currently have physical access.
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> ah
[13:15] <Zw> I have ordered a new dedicated server im setting up. and I have some questions
[13:16] <walid_> hi guys
[13:16] <uw_> ok what questions
[13:16] <Krised> Anyone know if its possible to rename the "other" option in lightDM when loggin in ? its anoying to have OTHER as i just want lightDM to ask for username (domain logins)
[13:16] <walid_> i'm kind of noob to ubuntu, and i need some help for network configuration(smth i need done fast, i can't really google everyting..)
[13:16] <Krised> walid what do you need to know ?
[13:16] <walid_> i plugged the ethernet cable to my mac
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> walid_  noob is not a nice word, please use newbie or beginner
[13:17] <walid_> Krised: i need to transfer a file to it
[13:17] <thrillERboy> How do I scroll up in a terminal after output using keyboard?
[13:17] <walid_> 2min
[13:17] <walid_> sry :(
[13:17] <jrib> thrillERboy: pageUp or shift+pageUp
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> thrillERboy  page up
[13:18] <thrillERboy> thanks jrib MonkeyDust shift+pageup worked
[13:19] <_zw_> uw_ sorry i disconnected
[13:19] <_zw_> What is the difference betweed adduser and useradd?
[13:20] <_zw_> Adduser makes home dir and everything?
[13:20] <Krised> _zw_ yes
[13:20] <Krised> it does
[13:20] <Zw> tnx
[13:20] <Krised> once the user is logging in.
[13:21] <Zw> and when im going to install mysql, sould i install mysql or mysql server?
[13:21] <Krised> so if you delete the users homedir then it just creates it again
[13:21] <bentkus> yeah
[13:22] <Zw> whats the difference between mysql and mysql server?
[13:23] <uw_> hi is there a way to be alerted when a user signs out of this channel?
[13:23] <Zw> uw_: I think u can use the highlight function in mIRC
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> it's hilight
[13:23] <Zw> sorry, hilight* ;)
[13:24] <uw_> hilight
[13:24] <Zw> adduser: Please enter a username matching the regular expression configured
[13:24] <Zw> via the NAME_REGEX[_SYSTEM} configuration variable.  Use the `--force-badname'
[13:24] <Zw> option to relax this check or reconfigure NAME_REGEX.
[13:24] <Zw> i get when adding a user, but i have the username on another ubuntu server :s
[13:25] <uw_> Zw, MonkeyDust i dont see where to use this hilight feature?  x-chat gnome right?
[13:25] <Zw> uw_ not sure, I use "mIRC"
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> uw_  try hilight [username]
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> uw_  try /hilight [username]
[13:26] <uw_> unknown command :(
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> mIRC is a windows client, no?
[13:27] <uw_> yea i use xchat, because it came with gnome (you know, in ubuntu)
[13:27] <Krised> MonkeyDust yes it is.. icechat is the one for linux.
[13:27] <Krised> ah yeah i meant xchat.. its for both actually
[13:28] <Pici> Zw: What is the exact command you are using when you try to add your user?
[13:29] <Zw> adduser
[13:29] <Zw> but i just used another username ^^
[13:30] <eldereko> hey guys, i have a question
[13:30] <theadmin> eldereko: Ask it
[13:31] <eldereko> somone setup a new ubuntu oneric box and added me a user, however whenever i am prompted for authentication in gnome it asks for the other users' password instead of mine
[13:31] <eldereko> ie, like when changing system settings or isntalling drivers
[13:32] <jrib> eldereko: what does « groups » in a terminal return?
[13:33] <eldereko> admin lpadmin plugindev cdrom users
[13:33] <jrib> eldereko: don't know then
[13:34] <llutz> eldereko: and "whoami" returns what?
[13:34] <eldereko> my username
[13:34] <jrib> wait, since when does ubuntu use "users"?
[13:35] <Zw> How to copy a folder from one server to another? its xxx GB
[13:35] <llutz> usergroup missing instead, disabled maybe?
[13:35] <llutz> Zw: scp -r dir/ user@host:/targetpath
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> Zw  use scp
[13:36] <Zw> kk
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> Zw  but rsync is faster than (s)cp
[13:37] <icarus-c> using compression may help too
[13:37] <icarus-c> you know, the ssh option
[13:38] <UidX> what's 550/2 ?
[13:39] <llutz> 225
[13:39] <llutz> 275
[13:39] <walid_> ok i'm back :) solved half of my problems :)
[13:43] <consola005> hi all, i have a question: if i turn odd rsync and the system need the service, ubuntu start alone the service or i must to turn on the service? and with the saned service?
[13:44] <Baribal> Hi again. I still have the problem that any media player I tested (totem, mplayer) runs through every video file at about 10 times normal speed, and neither video nor audio files produce audio output. How do I even go about debugging that?
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> Baribal  open a terminal and type alsamixer, if you see MM (mute), go there and type m
[13:47] <theadmin> Baribal: Video driver, likely.
[13:47] <theadmin> Though no
[13:47] <theadmin> Hm
[13:47] <theadmin> Baribal: Never mind what I just said, that's not it
[13:48] <Zw> What is proper command to create a new mysql user?
[13:49] <Baribal> MonkeyDust, nope, no change, the player still runs through the file too fast, still no audio, normal or otherwise.
[13:49] <llutz> Zw: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/adding-users.html
[13:49] <kohta_the_maid> "Compatible Nvidia X driver not found.  Cannot initialize GLX extension."  Suggested drivers for my video card haven't worked properly.  Is this because I'm using an Nvidia video card for laptops?
[13:49] <Zw> Tnx llutz
[13:49] <kohta_the_maid> Gets a little frustrating sometimes.
[13:52] <johtso> How can I get dnotify? I doesn't seem to be in the repositories..
[13:52] <johtso> *it
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> johtso  dnotify has been replaced by inotify
[13:53] <johtso> MonkeyDust: ah, thanks!
[13:54] <kohta_the_maid> http://fossies.org/unix/privat/dnotify-0.18.0.tar.gz/
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> !info inotify-tools
[13:58] <johtso> MonkeyDust: hmm, inotify doesn't give you a command line tool to execute a command each time an event occurs?
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> johtso  "dnotify is a file system event monitor for the Linux kernel, one of the subfeatures of the fcntl call. It was introduced in the 2.4 kernel series[1]. It has been obsoleted by inotify, but will be retained for compatibility reasons."
[14:00] <johtso> MonkeyDust: "will be retained for compatibility reasons"?
[14:00] <johtso> would I need to try an install dnotify if I want that functionality?
[14:01] <theadmin> !find dnotify
[14:01] <MonkeyDust> follow the link that kohta gave you ^
[14:01] <theadmin> huh...
[14:02] <theadmin> johtso: I tend to beleive that "dnotify" would be a part of inotify-tools, but I suggest you learn to use inotify because it's considered to be better
[14:02] <johtso> theadmin: ah right, so I'll need to do a while .. do .. with inotify
[14:03] <myrek> eloo
[14:03] <norberto> how can I group fields into a fieldset in a node edit form by code?
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> norberto  what code?
[14:10] <arooni-mobile> is there a supported WWAN card for ubuntu 11.10; i have a thinkpad t420.
[14:13] <johtso> theadmin: do you have any idea why the "modify" event would be triggered twice each time the file is changed?
[14:14] <theadmin> johtso: Hm, honestly no, I'm not familiar with inotify at all
[14:14] <johtso> ( using inotifywait -m -e modify .)
[14:14] <johtso> ah, okay
[14:14] <theadmin> arooni-mobile: WWAN being what exactly? I heard of "WLAN" and "WAN", but not "WWAN" :D
[14:15] <theadmin> arooni-mobile: Things like GPRS you mean?
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> wwan is wireless wan
[14:16] <llutz> which says nothing
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> arooni-mobile  http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T420
[14:17] <Zw> I have installed phpmyadmin, all looks ok, but i cant access through web :s
[14:18] <Zw> is it a ip setup accepting only given ips?
[14:18] <theadmin> Zw: You sure apache is running?
[14:18] <Zw> theadmin: ye, i can access the dommain so
[14:18] <Zw> It works! msg
[14:18] <theadmin> llutz: If that's the case, the binary you're looking for is not in $PATH?
[14:19] <llutz> theadmin: huh?
[14:19] <theadmin> Zw: Hm, uh, can you access http://yourdomain/phpmyadmin ?
[14:19] <arooni-mobile> MonkeyDust, theadmin i mean a card i can put data sim cards into when i'm in another country
[14:19] <llutz> arooni-mobile: so 3g/hsdpa  you mean
[14:19] <Zw> theadmin: The requested URL /phpmyadmin was not found on this server.
[14:20] <arooni-mobile> llutz, yes;  ideally with the ability to do the verizon type networks as well
[14:20] <MonkeyDust> Zw  it's an ip address you need to enter
[14:20] <Zw> maby Include /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf
[14:20] <theadmin> llutz: I wasn't really looking but you just said "which says nothing" so... err... I see what you mean now, I thought you meant "which" as in /bin/which
[14:20] <arooni-mobile> llutz, i want to buy one; but i dont know what
[14:21] <theadmin> Zw: Hm... probably just installing pma isn't enough, you want to link htdocs/phpmyadmin to the install dir (or set up an alias)
[14:22] <celthunder> Zw: you really don't want pma available to the public just so you know
[14:22] <Zw> celthunder why not? Have always had it ;P
[14:22] <Zw> and it is standard on all webhotels for public
[14:23]  * theadmin lols at the term webhotel
[14:23] <theadmin> You mean webhost
[14:23] <theadmin> :P
[14:24] <Zw> webhost yes :P
[14:24] <StepNjump> hi guys, my pdf writer writes to a .pdf file but then I cannot view what it wrote so i would like to know how to desinstall it so I could reinstall it again
[14:24] <Zw> sorry not englishman ;P
[14:24] <jatt> reinstalling will fix the problem?
[14:24] <shaneo> hey guys have a huge problem here: dpkg: error: cannot scan updates directory `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/': No such file or directory
[14:24] <shaneo> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[14:25] <unop> shaneo,  try creating the directory.   sudo mkdir -p /var/lib/dpkg/updates/
[14:26] <shaneo> lol was just thinking that
[14:26] <Oxymoron> Which channel to ask help regarding C and socket/pipe programming? Do not get any help in ##programming or ##C channels?
[14:26] <villa> good evening
[14:26] <shaneo> worked great thanks
[14:26] <theadmin> Oxymoron: Only those, likely, well, you can ask in #ubuntu-devel if you're developing for Ubuntu
[14:27] <LjL> Oxymoron: socket/pipes sound like POSIX context, try also ##posix
[14:28] <Oxymoron> LjL: Tried in there as well, it is quite DEAD channel unfortunatly.
[14:28] <jatt> !c
[14:28] <jbs>  =
[14:28] <Oxymoron> theadmin: Not developing for ubuntu, developing for a stupid teacher wants us todo sockets in C xD
[14:28] <theadmin> Oxymoron: lol...
[14:29] <ikonia> Oxymoron: those are the right channels, and #c is active, so try again
[14:29] <Oxymoron> ikonia: Last time I tried I was rejected ... and pointed forward to posix ...
[14:29] <ikonia> Oxymoron: well, not something we can help with here, good luck with it
[14:29] <Oxymoron> No one seems to like me ... xD
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> #ubuntu-devel does not provide support
[14:30] <celthunder> Zw: insecure, same reasons you don't allow the world to connect to your mysql server
[14:30] <arooni-mobile> does the gobi 3000 wireless card work on ubuntu 11.10?
[14:31] <Zw> celthunder: how to make it only aviable from localhost?
[14:31] <Zw> change to ip 127.0.0.1 in mysql config?
[14:33] <MestreLion_> hi! Question: how can I view/list my *current* ssh server settings?
[14:34] <llutz> MestreLion_: less 7etc/ssh/sshd_confif
[14:34] <ikonia> MestreLion_: look in the sshd_config file
[14:34] <Zw> how to change the name of the server?
[14:34] <ikonia> Zw: change /etc/nodename and /etc/hosts
[14:34] <fidel> Zw: talking about hostnames?
[14:34] <Zw> yes, tnx u
[14:35] <MestreLion_> llutz / ikonia those are not the current settings... for example, XForwarding is commented-out... so how do I know what is the current value ?
[14:35] <MestreLion_> llutz / ikonia I mean, the ones that are really effective?
[14:36] <ikonia> MestreLion_: you need to stop/start the sshd server to get it to re-parse the file
[14:36] <ikonia> MestreLion_: then you know the current settings are what is in the file
[14:36] <cloudgeek> how to extract a gzip file
[14:36] <ikonia> cloudgeek: gunzip
[14:37] <cloudgeek> okay like gunzip filename
[14:37] <cloudgeek> ikonia gunzip ruby.gz
[14:37] <rick_> hi all any one know a good place to talk processor logic  what channel
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> cloudgeek  type man gzip for information
[14:37] <MestreLion_> ikonia: that still wont tell me what are the effective values of the setings that are commented out
[14:37] <cloudgeek> okay
[14:37] <ikonia> rick_: sorry no, this isn't a a yellow pages of channels
[14:37] <yannf> hello
[14:38] <ikonia> MestreLion_: yes it will, as anything that is commented out in the config file will be default
[14:38] <yannf> I am looking for a tool to restrict network usage for a specific software
[14:38] <Steevca> I am having a problem with TP-LINK TF-3200,i cant seem to get a connection.
[14:38] <yannf> much like nice for CPU usage
[14:38] <ikonia> MestreLion_: if you are unsure of what the default value is, set the vale in the config file
[14:38] <rick_> this is the only decent line of communication i have pal so what do you expect
[14:38] <Zw> how to add a sudoer easy?
[14:38] <hydester> are there unique issues with SATA UEFI installs?
[14:38] <oCean> !alis | rick_
[14:38] <windows7> Hi. can someone help me, i don't know how to install windows XP
[14:38] <LjL> windows7: how is that related to Ubuntu?
[14:39] <ikonia> windows7: the guys in ##windows (channel) can help you
[14:39] <ikonia> windows7: /join ##windows and ask the windows support teams
[14:39] <windows7> no, you can help me
[14:39] <mneptok> rick_: the expectation of every user is that this channel is used for support questions specific to Ubuntu
[14:39] <ikonia> windows7: no - we won't. ask in ##windows, or don't ask again
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> windows7  wrong channel
[14:39] <Ubuntu11_10> i asked how to install ubuntu 11.10
[14:39] <ikonia> !install | Ubuntu11_10
[14:40] <rick_> ok sorry
[14:40] <StepNjump> Is it normal that pdf created on ubuntu cannot be read by other computers under windows?
[14:40] <LjL> StepNjump: no
[14:41] <StepNjump> ok thanks LjL
[14:41] <Zw> how to add a sudoer easy?
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> Zw  visudo
[14:42] <ikonia> Zw: create a user in the admin group
[14:42] <llutz> Zw: sudo adduser username admin
[14:43] <Zw> visudo works fine , tnx
[14:44] <LjL> Zw: it's also unnecessary in most cases, since there is the admin group for that purpose
[14:44] <Zw> ah ok
[14:44] <MestreLion_> ikonia: the commented  lines are not necessarily the default settings... actually, its the opposite: for example, "# ForwardX11 no"  , when the current effective value is YES
[14:45] <chiiiiiz> hello!!!
[14:45] <ikonia> MestreLion_: they are the default values, and as I've said, if you are unsure, uncomment them in the config file and force them
[14:46] <chiiiiiz> where can  I find the menu "favourite applications" with Unity and Ubuntu 11.10? I want to change the audio player, without changing it manually for eau kind of file
[14:46] <chiiiiiz> It used to be in Preferences with Gnome2
[14:46] <theadmin> chiiiiiz: It's called "prefered applications" and it still exists
[14:46] <theadmin> Or "preferred" or "preffered" or... I keep forgetting the right way to spell the word
[14:47] <chiiiiiz> I must be blind, so?
[14:47] <chiiiiiz> where did you find it?
[14:47] <theadmin> chiiiiiz: Just type the first few letters in the search bar. Or probably open the control center thingy
[14:47] <chiiiiiz> I did, this is why I adk!!
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> chiiiiiz  system info in the control center
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> system settings - system info
[14:49] <chiiiiiz> MonkeyDust: OK, found it... I would never have thought to look in here... thx
[14:49] <chiiiiiz> gmusicbrowser is notlisted in the applications to choose from... though I am using it as we speak... how can I modify thatN
[14:50] <theadmin> chiiiiiz: You can use "custom", I think.
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> maybe gmuscibrowser has its own option to 'set as default'
[14:51] <chiiiiiz> theadmin: nope, no custom vlaue to be chosen
[14:51] <chiiiiiz> MonkeyDust: not that I can recall... but I may be blin d... agin
[14:51] <theadmin> chiiiiiz: Ah, hm, you can try to manually edit gconf/dconf or use update-alternatives... hm.
[14:52] <chiiiiiz> the admin: where is the key I must modify in dconf-editor?
[14:53] <MonkeyDust> chiiiiiz  in gmusicbrowser, up, right is this little wheel-thingy
[14:55] <lolufail> hi!
[14:55] <lolufail> am I googling this correctly, there are no packages that contain a fix for CVE-2012-0830 ?!
[14:57] <sarimkhan> Hello guys, Is it possible to run Unity in 3D mode inside vmware fusion ?
[14:59] <Pici> lolufail: Doesn't look like its been looked at yet.  You can keep an eye on this page to see when it does: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2012/CVE-2012-0830.html
[14:59] <lolufail> :D
[14:59] <lolufail> interesting, since you can easily get a shell via javascript ;)
[15:00] <sarimkhan> Is there any (unofficial) 3D acceleration enabled graphics driver for vmware ?
[15:01] <R1ROOT> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[15:01] <lolufail> sarimkhan: https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=vmware+ubuntu+3d
[15:01] <Dr_Willis_O_Love> sarimkhan:  vmware and vbox have some limited 3d support. You may want to check the askubuntu.com site to see how unity works with vmware.
[15:01] <Dr_Willis_O_Love> i only use vbox.
[15:02] <theadmin> sarimkhan: None I heard of, but Virtualbox works great and has an official driver for that. Tryzit!
[15:02] <lolufail> -.- this really is the first hit... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1531911
[15:02] <theadmin> Dr_Willis_O_Love: Are you Dr_Willis or are you just someone with a similar nickname, anyhow?
[15:02] <sarimkhan> @lolufail I did searched google, lol, the results states its not possible, though i was wondering if there has been any recent update.
[15:03] <lolufail> sarimkhan: oh, you want ubuntu as guest. sry nevermind
[15:03] <Dr_Willis_O_Love> theadmin:  its dr_willis :) im testing out the web chat interface today
[15:03] <theadmin> Dr_Willis_O_Love: Ah, don't bother :D It's not all that great
[15:04] <Dr_Willis_O_Love> Working fine for me so far.
[15:04] <Dr_Willis_O_Love> now that i figured out how to make the fonts bigger
[15:04] <Dr_Willis_O_Love> but it seems to have scrolling issues when i enlarge the font
[15:08] <StepNjump> Anyone here familiar with pdf writer?
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> !anyone| StepNjump
[15:12] <dyd> guys
[15:12] <dyd> how can i update my ati drivers?
[15:13] <StepNjump> Adobe Reader could not open 'output.pdf' because it is either not a supported file type or because the file has been damaged.
[15:13] <MonkeyDust> dyd  have you tried sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[15:13] <ikonia> dyd: this may sound a silly question, but why do you want to ?
[15:14] <dyd> ikonia, quake live has low fps on certain maps (i've already set everything to minimum) but on windows i had always 125fps
[15:14] <dyd> ikonia, i don't know why this should happen
[15:14] <ikonia> dyd: windows is not ubuntu
[15:14] <dyd> ikonia, thanks for the hint
[15:16] <ikonia> dyd: you can't expect things to function the same, especially without open drivers like ati
[15:16] <dyd> ikonia, i just wondered if it could be a driver issue
[15:18] <theadmin> dyd: It likely is
[15:19] <imbezol> dyd: isn't quake live flash driven?
[15:19] <qt-dsa> hello can somebody tell me what Tun TAP is, i've read online but still vconfused
[15:19] <qt-dsa> is it like already setup VPN server ?
[15:19] <imbezol> dyd: i'd blame he lousy flash implementation on linux.. it's always been problematic
[15:19] <dyd> imbezol, i see
[15:19] <naptastic> How would I roll back an update that broke something? (Current Firefox is crashing constantly; I just want to go back to the version I had installed before.)
[15:20] <imbezol> dyd: do some testing with quake 4 or something. i've never had problems
[15:20] <imbezol> dyd: several friends and i played a lot with both ati and nvidia cards
[15:20] <qt-dsa> what is tun TAP what can i do with it ?
[15:21] <Oer> naptastic, you could try delete the firefox folder first > ~/.mozilla/firefox
[15:22] <naptastic> Oer, not a bad idea, and since I have sync, not a problem either.
[15:22] <Oer> naptastic, that would delete damages or incorrect settings
[15:23] <bhearsum> i just installed the 'python-pydot' module, but i still can't import 'pydot' in python. digging a bit, i see a few files in /usr/share/python-support/python-pydot, but that directory isn't in my sys.path. what's the right way to get this module importable?
[15:24] <codeperl2> hello
[15:24] <myschak> o/
[15:25] <bhearsum> d'oh, looks like my virtualenv is what's screwing things up
[15:25] <codeperl2> i want to do everything with command in ubuntu. so, is there any books on ubuntu from which i learn commands for beginners to expert level
[15:25] <codeperl2> ?
[15:25] <bhearsum> why does creating a virtualenv with --no-site-packages prevent me from using python-pydot, though?
[15:25] <haslap> Can anyone help me with a shell script? I have it pretty much done but I forgot about duplicate entries? It's a small shell script that exports the rows from a .csv file into individual .csv files (1200 entries = 1200 .csv files) and names the file to the value of column 9. This is my code currently. ;
[15:25] <haslap> FILE=ss.csv; COLNO=9; END=$(wc -l "$FILE" | awk '{ print $1 }'); for i in $(seq 1 "$END"); do sed -n "$i"p "$FILE" > $(sed -n "$i"p "$FILE" | cut -d ',' --fields="$COLNO").csv; done
[15:26] <codeperl2> i want to do everything with command in ubuntu. so, is there any books on ubuntu from which i learn commands for beginners to expert level
[15:26] <codeperl2> ?
[15:26] <suntzu> I want to replace my Ubuntu with Kubuntu. Currently running three partitions with Win7 and Ubuntu with GRUB as boot manager. Will formatting the ubuntu partition and installing kubuntu on it mess anything up with the Win7 part?
[15:27] <Pici> haslap: #bash might be a more appropriate place to ask this.
[15:27] <rumpe1> suntzu, why not just install kde-desktop?
[15:28] <suntzu> rumpe1, will that be an equivalent?
[15:28] <Oer> codeperl2, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal && https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommandlineHowto && https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/basic-commands/C/   are a good start
[15:28] <rumpe1> suntzu, it would be very similar. kubuntu is just ubuntu with the kde desktop as the default one.
[15:29] <suntzu> rumpe1, no other features missing?
[15:29] <codeperl2> thank your Oer
[15:29] <rumpe1> suntzu, you could install any missing feature the usual way. There are several kde-desktop (meta)packages ... don't know the name of the "full" desktop though.
[15:30] <suntzu> rumpe1, Yeah, I want to migrate because I don't like Unity. perhaps that's the easiest way, didn't know it was possible to just change desktop like that. So I will still be able to run Unity if I'd feel like? (from the login screen)
[15:30] <rumpe1> suntzu, sure. kde will be added to the sessions in the login manager.
[15:30] <suntzu> rumpe1, perfect, thanks!
[15:30] <rumpe1> suntzu, you're welcome
[15:34] <bobenhaus> has anyone used ubuntu tweak?
[15:34] <MonkeyDust> bobenhaus  yes me
[15:34] <ikonia> yes, it's the devils tool
[15:34] <bobenhaus> How do you guys like it?
[15:34] <MonkeyDust> i use it for the janitor only
[15:34] <bobenhaus> yeah me2
[15:34] <ikonia> it's not a very good tool, and can cause problems
[15:34] <ikonia> there is no reason to use it beyond the official ubuntu tools
[15:34] <bobenhaus> ikonia: any alternatives?
[15:36] <ikonia> bobenhaus: to do what
[15:36] <bobenhaus> ikonia: cleanup
[15:37] <codeperl2> i have a directory which contains a file. I want to remove the directory by command. How can i do that?
[15:37] <ikonia> bobenhaus: cleaning up what ?
[15:38] <llutz> codeperl2: rm -rf /directory        be carefull, it won't ask
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> bobenhaus  janitor is an ubuntu program
[15:38] <bobenhaus> ikonia: temp system files
[15:38] <rumpe1> codeperl2, rm -rf <nameofdir>
[15:38] <ikonia> bobenhaus: remove the from /tmp
[15:38] <codeperl2> -rf what is it?
[15:38] <bobenhaus> monkeydust: Thanks
[15:38] <codeperl2> what it means actually?
[15:38] <llutz> codeperl2: read "man rm"
[15:38] <codeperl2> ok
[15:38] <bobenhaus> ikonia: YOu said there are ubuntu tools that are native to the system?
[15:38] <esuave> remove recursively, and force.
[15:38] <codeperl2> thanks rumpel and llutz
[15:38] <ikonia> bobenhaus: yes, you just remove the files in /tmp to remove temp files
[15:39] <bobenhaus> ikonia: I heard from others that the tmp files should be kept
[15:39] <bobenhaus> is that true?
[15:39] <ikonia> then why do you want to clean them ?
[15:39] <bobenhaus> ikonia: to keep my system optimized
[15:40] <ikonia> bobenhaus: how will removing /tmp files optimise your system
[15:40] <bobenhaus> ikonia: Dunno someone from this channel said to becareful when removing files from /temp
[15:41] <MonkeyDust> bobenhaus  there's also bleachbit
[15:41] <bobenhaus> monkeydust: thanks.
[15:41] <ikonia> bobenhaus: that's all the clean up script does, is remove temp files, so it's no different if you do it, or use a 3rd party tool
[15:41] <bobenhaus> ikonia: ok thanks. I will keep that in mind.
[15:42] <Steel_Regin> anyone know how to retrieve my password from nick
[15:42] <rumpe1> bobenhaus, if the tmp files are still in use, keeping them for a bit longer is maybe a good idea. ;)
[15:42] <bobenhaus> rumpe1: true :)
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> bobenhaus  or do you mean ~/.cache ?
[15:43] <bobenhaus> monkeydust: nah /tmp
[15:44] <utente123> http://xdcc_CANCEL_X1328542976
[15:46] <bobenhaus> ahh I just found a way to show the advance permission inside the filemanager.  :)
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> \o/
[15:46] <Steel_Regin> anyone??? retrieve password from nick?
[15:46] <Steel_Regin> i tried sendpass and says i am not authorized
[15:47] <EvilResistance> Steel_Regin, you mean for nickserv?
[15:47] <Steel_Regin> yes
[15:47] <EvilResistance> Steel_Regin, if for nickserv, join #freenode and ask for a passcode reset
[15:47] <Steel_Regin> thanks Evil. i will give it a shot
[15:48] <codeperl2> i get some online documents from you to learn ubuntu commands
[15:48] <codeperl2> thank you
[15:49] <codeperl2> but is there any books from where i can learn ubuntu11.04 commands very well? any experience you all? can you please share more?
[15:51] <czardoz> codeperl2: better get a linux book rather than one dedicated to ubuntu 11.04... it'll help you understand ubuntu better
[15:51] <EvilResistance> Steel_Regin, freenode staff has to send you the reset email, thats why you have to do /join #freenode and ask staff there for a reset :)
[15:53] <codeperl2> czardoz, so which one? I have a little bit of time to learn this. so, can you please suggest
[15:53] <miko_mirane> I need help with dapper
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> dapper?
[15:53] <miko_mirane> is this the right channel?
[15:53] <theadmin> !find dapper
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> is this the right year?
[15:54] <theadmin> miko_mirane: Sounds like it is something that may be found in Ubuntu repos, so you can try asking here indeed
[15:54] <miko_mirane> okay
[15:54] <theadmin> miko_mirane: Although if the software has a channel of it's own, it's best to just ask there
[15:54] <miko_mirane> well, i need to update apt
[15:54] <miko_mirane> in dapper
[15:54] <miko_mirane> and I don't think using the old-releases repository helps
[15:55] <M4d3L> hi. in command line, is there a way to search in all file of directory and subdirectory?
[15:55] <MonkeyDust> M4d3L  combine find with grep
[15:55] <czardoz> codeperl2: maybe you should ask google :D
[15:55] <theadmin> M4d3L: Could you rephrase that? The answer is yes, but your question doesn't make much sense though
[15:56] <theadmin> miko_mirane: Oh, Dapper as in the release... Sorry, we don't support EOL stuff here and that's, well, WAY old
[15:56] <M4d3L> theadmin:  I have lot of PHP file and I search a string somewhere in all that ton of file
[15:57] <theadmin> M4d3L: Hm, ah, sure... grep --with-filename /path/to/folder/*.php
[15:57] <miko_mirane> okay, but do you guys know of a channel for openthinclient?
[15:57] <theadmin> M4d3L: I mean, grep --with-filename /path/to/folder/*.php "string to search for"
[15:58] <M4d3L> theadmin:  how I group it with find to search in subdirectory?
[15:59] <Guest14323> i don't understand what the hell has happened to KDE plasma 4.7.2 when i upgraded my system to 11.10
[15:59] <Guest14323> can anyone help?
[15:59] <swap-off> join #xhabie-crew
[15:59] <swap-off> ./join #xhabie-crew
[15:59] <kermit> i upgraded to 12.04 and now i have no sound
[15:59] <FloodBot1> swap-off: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:59] <theadmin> M4d3L: Ah... hm, try something like this: find your_directory -type f -iname '*.php' -exec grep -H '{}' "string to search for" \;
[16:02] <fabiobik> hi guys
[16:02] <fabiobik> my terminal are crasy
[16:02] <csantos> anyone here that can help retrieve my password?
[16:02] <codeperl2> how can i set environment variables in ubuntu?
[16:02] <theadmin> fabiobik: That made no sense.
[16:02] <fabiobik> now appears only dollar sign
[16:03] <theadmin> fabiobik: Output of: echo $PS1
[16:03] <Mike9863> I'm trying to compile and execute a java file however I'm having this problem: http://pastebin.com/HjDFejzH
[16:03] <fabiobik> theadmin:
[16:03] <fabiobik> $
[16:03] <fabiobik> $
[16:03] <fabiobik> $
[16:03] <FloodBot1> fabiobik: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:04] <theadmin> fabiobik: You don't need to paste that so many times. There's your problem :P What do you expect if your $PS1 is set to just $?
[16:07] <jag> is it possible to setup raid1 on normal ubuntu?(11.10, and not server edition)
[16:08] <swap-off> !help
[16:08] <Sach> Is there a way to retrieve a corrupted Tomboy note? I was typing it whehn I suddenly had a power failure, and now the note won't open.
[16:09] <swap-off> @help
[16:09] <hatchetjack> do any of you guys use libvirt/kvm?
[16:09] <rb26> Hi All, I just recently installed Linux Mint 12 with the GNOME 3 interface. I open the terminal and the only thing that I see is a blink bar and I type commands and nothing happens!!!!! HELP!!!
[16:09] <compdoc> I use qemu-kvm. have done for a long time
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> !mint| rb26
[16:10] <hatchetjack> Permission denied chardev: opening backend "socket" failed
[16:10] <hatchetjack> cannot create VMs
[16:10] <compdoc> have yuu rebooted since install?
[16:10] <compdoc> you
[16:10] <hatchetjack> no
[16:11] <compdoc> you should
[16:11] <hatchetjack> I've logged out and back in
[16:11] <hatchetjack> why must I reboot?
[16:11] <rb26> Thanks!!!
[16:11] <compdoc> try it
[16:11] <hatchetjack> okay
[16:14] <loganrun> does anyone know how to stop ubuntu from maximizing the window to the wrong workspace. if the window is mostly off the bottom of the screen for example it maximizes it to the workspace below not the active workspace
[16:14] <loganrun> very annoying. I was finally able to disable ubuntu from maximizing the window when you are just dragging it around. does anyone really like that feature
[16:15] <loganrun> anyone online today?
[16:15] <theadmin> loganrun: I like that feature myself and, actually, most desktops have that. Windows does that too
[16:16] <loganrun> does mac?
[16:16] <roberto_> ciao
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> list
[16:16] <roberto_> hello
[16:16] <theadmin> loganrun: If you drag the window to the top border of the screen, it gets maximized. Makes sense to me. I have no idea about OS X.
[16:16] <roberto_> !list
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> :)
[16:16] <loganrun> no it doesn't and ubuntu probably copied the feature from windows 7
[16:16] <theadmin> What is it with those italians triggering !list
[16:17] <theadmin> loganrun: Actually, it's much more likely that Microsoft copied it from some Linux. All they ever do is steal from OS X and us anyway :P
[16:17] <showtime> dont speak bad words like w7 !
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> theadmin  LjL explained: italians have no internet culture
[16:17] <loganrun> it results in non intuative behavior, if I am just arranging my windows why the heck do I want it suddenly maximize and obsecure the others, makes no sense
[16:17] <loganrun> theadmin, possible
[16:18] <Sach> Is there a way to retrieve a corrupted Tomboy note? I was typing it whehn I suddenly had a power failure, and now the note won't open.
[16:18] <hatchetjack> compdoc: what would you suggest in the event that a reboot does not fix it?
[16:18] <loganrun> anyway that was fixable, but can't figure out how to stop it from maximizing to the wrong workspace
[16:23] <theadmin> Sach: Well. If you're looking for file recovery tools try photorec. Just filter it to whatever kind of files tomboy stores notes in and go ahead...
[16:24] <theadmin> loganrun: If it maximizes to a wrong workspace it sounds like a bug, please consider reporting it.
[16:24] <dury> hi there all :)
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> loganrun  or drag it to the correct monitor, close and reopen it
[16:25] <hatchetjack> okay I've rebooted
[16:25] <hatchetjack> let's give kvm a whirl now.
[16:26] <dury> hi there channel  :)
[16:28] <theadmin> Hey dury, welcome to the Ubuntu support channel, what can we help you with? :D
[16:28] <dury> I do run classic gnome desktop one panel in the top and other one in the bottom... the thing is that top panel applets disappear accidentally
[16:28] <bab> how do I stop pptp server from allowing clients to connect to each other?
[16:28] <hatchetjack> still get Permission denied
[16:28] <hatchetjack> chardev: opening backend "socket" failed
[16:28] <thetinyjesus> anyone know how to get weechat to automatically connect to servers?
[16:28] <theadmin> dury: Do you mean "randomly"?
[16:29] <hatchetjack> didn't think the windows "reboot" solution would really work
[16:30] <thetinyjesus> Does anyone know how to use weechat well?
[16:31] <theadmin> thetinyjesus: Could you try their channel? i.e. #weechat
[16:31] <compdoc> hatchetjack, how did you install qemu-kvm?
[16:31] <designbybeck> has anyone else been having "Alt + Tab" issues when switching between windows? Just withing the past week or so my screen flickers and then has to refresh the windows manager it looks like
[16:31] <designbybeck> i just reset compiz back to unity default and it is still doing that
[16:31] <vbb> im not tulip
[16:32] <melkor> Greetings is there any presentation software that supports video? Libre office is insufficient because I cannot set the play to loop.
[16:32] <theadmin> designbybeck: Sounds like a problem with video drivers to me. Did you have a kernel upgrade recently?
[16:32] <designbybeck> not that i know of theadmin
[16:32] <bab> how do I stop pptp server from allowing clients to connect to each other?
[16:32] <designbybeck> melkor, have you tried http://docs.google.com
[16:33] <dury> theadmin?
[16:33] <theadmin> dury: hmmm... I dunno then.
[16:33] <melkor> designbybeck: no, that is an intersting suggestion.
[16:33] <jigspan> need help pls
[16:34] <designbybeck> melkor,  they have a  presentation feature that lets you embed youtube videos and such, it works nice for the most part
[16:34] <dury> where can I publish images for free to show you the desktop problem
[16:34] <designbybeck> also melkor another thing I'm playing with is HTML5 all web version for  a presentation
[16:34] <MonkeyDust> dury  i guess it's because gnome classic is not *really* gnome2, it just kind of looks and behaves like gnome2
[16:34] <jigspan> any ane can explain how join indian room?
[16:34] <designbybeck> dury,  you can use http://pasteall.org
[16:34] <LjL> jigspan: type /join #ubuntu-in
[16:35] <dury> all right designbybeck
[16:35] <designbybeck> melkor,  here is the HTML5 setup  I was talking about, then you just embed your files using WebM or the like: http://slides.html5rocks.com/#landing-slide
[16:37] <dury> http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=25982 accidentally no those applets in the top panel
[16:37] <dury> how can I get it back?
[16:37] <adrellias> hey peeps
[16:37] <adrellias> does anybody know how to import certificates
[16:37] <adrellias> into ubuntu ?
[16:38] <ikonia> what sort of certificates ?
[16:38] <ikonia> and into what application ?
[16:38] <adrellias> i need to do 802.1X auth TLS but it uses client certificates
[16:38] <dury> http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=25982 the ones underlined in red
[16:38] <adrellias> ubutu's network manager does not give you the option
[16:38] <ikonia> adrellias: ok, what application ?
[16:38] <adrellias> just straight forward ubuntu network manager
[16:38] <adrellias> it does not allow for TLS with client certificate
[16:39] <ikonia> adrellias: I don't know if network manager supports it,
[16:39] <adrellias> darn
[16:39] <ikonia> I'd assume so but I've never used it like that
[16:39] <dury> how to restore default applets in the top panel the ones in the right ?
[16:40] <adrellias> ikonia: whats weird is i think wpa_supplicant does
[16:40] <adrellias> will fiddle
[16:40] <adrellias> perhaps that option should be added
[16:40] <adrellias> :)
[16:40] <adrellias> that is if it works
[16:40] <ikonia> adrellias: never used it that way, so I don't know
[16:40] <dury> in classic gnome desktop
[16:40] <adrellias> pingo wicd supports it
[16:40] <adrellias> ubuntu's network manager does not
[16:41] <adrellias> hrmm
[16:41] <adrellias> or wait
[16:41] <dury> theadmin: do you know how to do it?
[16:41] <theadmin> dury: No, sorry
[16:42] <hatchetjack> compdoc: by following the ubuntu wiki documentation found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation
[16:42] <Vexiant> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/dns-configuration.html     "Caching Nameserver"
[16:42] <Vexiant> I need help with this ^
[16:43] <melkor> designbybeck: thats pretty cool.
[16:43] <Vexiant> can anyone help me with it?
[16:43] <jigspan> can anyone explain what cause improper shutdown in 11.10?
[16:43] <dury> designbybeck: are you there?
[16:44] <Vexiant> Anyone?
[16:44] <oCean> !patience | Vexiant
[16:44] <dury> ikonia: can you help me please?
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> idd
[16:44] <Vexiant> this IRC blows. I'm going to the forums
[16:44] <jag> jigspan, same symptom here, i'm guessing if u logon on plaintext that you should exit before trying to shutdown.. (i think it only shutsdown properly from the gui screen)
[16:45] <auronandace> wow, 2 mins of patience
[16:45] <jag> 20 minutes of patience for me..lol
[16:45] <designbybeck> yeah whats up dury
[16:45] <sbarcteam> hi.
[16:45] <designbybeck> yes it is melkor ;) great way to do it
[16:45] <jigspan> i always log on and sutdown from gui
[16:45] <sbarcteam> I've upgraded from maverick to natty.
[16:45] <sbarcteam> And I cannot login graphically.
[16:46] <sbarcteam> I've tried polling on "~/.xsession-errors", nothing there.
[16:46] <sbarcteam> I've tried "safe" and "classical safe", it doesn't help.
[16:46] <jag> jigspan, i know.. it sometimes freezes for me too.. i did an upgrade after installing 11.10 and not sure if it'll recur
[16:46] <dury> designbybeck: thanks for answer http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=25982 need to restore default applets in the top panel http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=25982 the ones in the right
[16:46] <sbarcteam> I think it has to do with something I had  working on maverick :) can somebody hold my hand to debut this ?
[16:46] <sbarcteam> s/debut/debug/
[16:46] <dury> designbybeck: sorry to repeat the url
[16:47] <designbybeck> what version is that dury?
[16:47] <designbybeck> 10.10?
[16:47] <jigspan> i have all updates for 11.10 but problem exist.
[16:47] <jag> sbarcteam, try -> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[16:47] <jag> sbarcteam, or, apt-get install gnome-classic
[16:47] <dury> designbybeck: 11.04
[16:47] <sbarcteam> jag: already installed ....
[16:47] <sbarcteam> next bet, gentlemen
[16:48] <jigspan> have also tried on launchpad but cant success
[16:48] <jag> sbarcteam, or, apt-get install gnome-session-fallback
[16:48] <designbybeck> can you not right click on it and say Add To Panel? I'm useing 11.10 Unity so I don't remember that stuff right off hand dury
[16:48] <sbarcteam> jag there is no such package as you've mentioned. please note, I'm trying to make it work on NATTY.
[16:48] <sbarcteam> not oneiric.
[16:48] <theadmin> jag: You mean "gnome-fallback", not "gnome-classic"
[16:49] <theadmin> sbarcteam: ^
[16:49] <jag> ya thank
[16:49] <dury> designbybeck: the thing it's to restore default applets in the top panel... that's all
[16:49] <jag> but for 11.10
[16:49] <deper29> hey guys, I'm hoping someone can help me with this. I just did a clean install of 11.10, and ran into an issue. When I boot, I get a black screen that says "error: invalid arch independent ELF magic" and puts me in grub rescue
[16:49] <xangua> !panels | dury
[16:50] <sbarcteam> xangua: did u mean me ?
[16:50] <grummund> Hi, Anyone know how to run tftpd ?
[16:51] <jigspan> jag: i have found that it is bios , acpi or driver problem.
[16:51] <deper29> I found this, but I don't know which drives I should be mounting :S http://askubuntu.com/questions/72003/grub-invalid-arch-independent-elf-magic-after-11-10-install-on-macbook-pro-5
[16:51] <dury> xangua: as root?
[16:51] <theadmin> grummund: Normally you can start/stop daemons with "sudo service DAEMONNAME start/stop". In your case, I think you want "sudo service tftpd start"
[16:52] <deper29> anyone?
[16:52] <grummund> theadmin: i think tftpd is intended to run from xinetd, but it's not set up...
[16:53] <grummund> if i could just invoke it from the command line that would be fine
[16:54] <theadmin> grummund: Hm... xinetd... I don't think it's supposed to be ran that way (doesn't make sense to me) but if it is, well... Then I can't really help
[16:54] <john_doe_jr> does anyone know if there is an application that is free and open source that will allow me to take daily notes ?
[16:55] <grummund> well there's no tftpd script under /etc/init.d/... that i can see
[16:55] <theadmin> john_doe_jr: Zim is my favorite for that.
[16:55] <theadmin> grummund: /etc/init.d/ is deprecated and only used for things not yet ported to use Upstart. Look for things under /etc/init/
[16:55] <dury> xangua: thanks indeed it worked :)
[16:56] <john_doe_jr> theadmin, alright thanks I'll try it out
[16:58] <dury> hi there again channel :)thanks indeed
[16:58] <th_> hello. any sylpheed users here?
[16:58] <McG-Lucky> need help with my ubuntu lag
[16:58] <dury> I did solve the applet problem in the top panel
[16:59] <dury> once again thanks indeed :) thanks to xanga
[16:59] <designbybeck> pay it forward dury!
[16:59] <McG-Lucky> please
[16:59] <McG-Lucky> some one help
[17:00] <dury> no money :(
[17:00] <andyhuzhill> McG-Lucky: What is lag?
[17:00] <dury> I can help to the community
[17:01] <McG-Lucky> what happens is when i drag the window around it makes like a slide show i have the ati card drivers
[17:01] <McG-Lucky> nothing is smooth why please
[17:02] <sviesusisalus> latency
[17:02] <theadmin> dury: That will do, that's what we mean ;) Help out in #ubuntu, that's the way you usually help any Linux distros. Paying literally isn't really something we expect from you
[17:03] <theadmin> McG-Lucky: Do you have the propetiary drivers? You sure they loaded?
[17:03] <sanjay> s
[17:04] <McG-Lucky> i have the catalyst ait thingi
[17:04] <dury> theadmin: I will consider what you said... believe me :)
[17:04] <jigspan> sanjay: i have shutdown problem with 11.10
[17:05] <UICTamale> hi all, I'm unable to boot into my ubuntu 11.10 install.  It keeps hanging at 'checking battery state'
[17:05] <theadmin> dury: hehe, thaks :D
[17:05] <dury> theadmin: you're welcome :)
[17:05] <theadmin> UICTamale: That can happen for several reasons. Try booting with "nomodeset" appended to the kernel line
[17:06] <th_> i have a 3 accounts on sylpheed. but theres a problem with that because inboxes are kinda messed up... sylpheed shows multiple accounts on 1 inbox :S
[17:06] <McG-Lucky> HELO
[17:07] <McG-Lucky> PLEASE
[17:07] <go^> hello
[17:07] <jigspan> theadmin: i have improper shutdown problem with 11.10 i have all updates installed
[17:07] <UICTamale> theadmin: I've tried that before, no luck.
[17:07] <theadmin> jigspan: "improper shutdown" how?
[17:07] <zars> ciao
[17:07] <zars> !list
[17:07] <go^> What can I use to use my Nokia (n97 mini) with my ubuntu 11.10? Thank you :)
[17:07] <hatchetjack> I guess kvm is not usable in ubuntu?
[17:07] <compdoc> sure it is
[17:07] <UICTamale> theadmin: I've also tried reinstalling the fglrx drivers and switching back to the open-source ATI drivers, also with no luck.
[17:08] <hatchetjack> compdoc: how do you figure?
[17:08] <UICTamale> theadmin: I've also tried reinstalling lightdm
[17:08] <jigspan> theadmin:system cant power off completely .
[17:08] <theadmin> UICTamale: hmmm... If you boot to console (append "text" to the kernel line), does it work?
[17:08] <hatchetjack> compdoc: seems pretty unusable to me at the moment
[17:08] <compdoc> hatchetjack, I have it running windows and nix guests on 3 different servers, using 3 different versions of Ubuntu
[17:08] <theadmin> jigspan: So it just hangs on a black screen (or on some screen with text ending in "System halted."), right?
[17:09] <hatchetjack> compdoc: and you installed similar to wiki link I posted?
[17:09] <jigspan> theadmin: yes sir
[17:09] <dury> need to go... be back
[17:09] <compdoc> hatchetjack, if you are getting permission denied, it sounds like you dont have user/groups set right
[17:10] <theadmin> jigspan: That'd be "yes ma'am" :P. Either way, append "reboot=bios" to your kernel line and try again. If it doesn't work, try changing that to "reboot=acpi" and finally "reboot=force". See which works for you. After that, update grub to use the respective parameter.
[17:10] <compdoc> hatchetjack, yes, something like that one, but I think thats a bit dated, since it only mentions 10.04 (I think it was). You can google kvm on the actual version you are using
[17:11] <jigspan> theadmin: ok mam but how to do that?
[17:11] <hatchetjack> compdoc: how should the perms be set?
[17:12] <go^> Does anybody know any tool to use my Nokia (N97 mini) with Ubuntu 11.10? Something like OVI Pc Suite..
[17:12] <McG-Lucky> so i am not getting help
[17:12] <compdoc> hatchetjack, I dont think you actually need to set perms, you just need to make sure the users and groups exist. If you use apt-get to install, it should set/create all those things for you
[17:12] <theadmin> jigspan: Well. During the initial startup, after BIOS POST, hold Left Shift. Then you'll see some sort of a menu. Edit the line beginning with "kernel", just add " bios=..." to it (where ... is bios, acpi or force), after which tell it to boot. See if it works, then report back saying which worked and I'll provide further instructions.
[17:13] <theadmin> err
[17:13] <theadmin> jigspan: " reboot=...", rather
[17:14] <auronandace> McG-Lucky: well, theres not much anyone can do about bad proprietry drivers
[17:14] <compdoc> hatchetjack, also, you have to make sure the service is set to run at boot
[17:14] <jigspan> theadmin:i get that menu every time without pressing left shift
[17:14] <compdoc> hatchetjack, that permission denied might simple mean its not running
[17:14] <compdoc> simply
[17:15] <McG-Lucky> so what is it ubuntu
[17:15] <hatchetjack> compdoc: I've verified libvirt-bin is running
[17:15] <hatchetjack> compdoc: my user is in the libvirtd group
[17:15] <hatchetjack> I've rebooted
[17:15] <McG-Lucky> is it or not
[17:16] <compdoc> hatchetjack, hold on a sec
[17:16] <theadmin> jigspan: Ah cool, well then just follow the instructions as they are from the next step on. Normally that menu is hidden but.
[17:16] <McG-Lucky> out of 1576 people no one can help me
[17:16] <McG-Lucky> really
[17:16] <auronandace> McG-Lucky: you're using closed source ati drivers, only amd has access to those so nobody here can help you if the problem is with the drivers
[17:17] <McG-Lucky> So how do you fix that
[17:17] <gr33n7007h> how can I install flash player 11 on ubuntu 10.04 any ideas??
[17:17] <McG-Lucky> thanks for the reply
[17:17] <auronandace> McG-Lucky: thats my point, you can't, they are closed sourcew
[17:18] <McG-Lucky> so i must uninstall ubuntu
[17:18] <McG-Lucky> cause it does not work
[17:18] <auronandace> McG-Lucky: if the problem is with unity then you can file a bug report, if the problem is the ati driver then there is simply nothing you can do
[17:19] <McG-Lucky> o and pd it used to work on other ubuntu 's
[17:19] <compdoc> hatchetjack, libvirt-bin is the only service set to run at boot on two of my systems, so that seems right
[17:19] <auronandace> McG-Lucky: a bit of lag seems like a small problem to justify getting rid of ubuntu
[17:19] <McG-Lucky> like 9.04
[17:19] <mcnesium> i want to use this webcam i have, lsusb says  Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0c45:6028 Microdia Typhoon Easycam USB 330K (older)
[17:19] <McG-Lucky> till this one came out now it does not
[17:20] <compdoc> hatchetjack, do you use virt-manager?
[17:20] <andrew9183> hey guys, my friend is messing with my computer while i'm gone.  is there any way to lock access to everything without locking the computer?  i want him to try desperately for fun but not let him do anything
[17:20] <mcnesium> when i do ffmpeg -i /dev/v4l/by-id/usb-0c45_USB_camera-video-index0 image.jpg
[17:20] <mcnesium> it says /dev/v4l/by-id/usb-0c45_USB_camera-video-index0: Invalid data found when processing input
[17:20] <McG-Lucky> and the gcard was picket up from ubuntu it self
[17:20] <auronandace> McG-Lucky: if you are covinced it is a unity bug, file a bug report
[17:20] <gr33n7007h> how can I install flash player 11 on ubuntu 10.04 any ideas??
[17:20] <McG-Lucky> what the card
[17:20] <McG-Lucky> it self
[17:20] <Pici> !enter | McG-Lucky
[17:20] <McG-Lucky> or the drive
[17:20] <mcnesium> this is ubuntu server 11.10
[17:20] <jigspan> theadmin:there is no instructions it just wait for 7 seconds and boot normally then log on screen appear , there is no problem with restart
[17:23] <LinSkyrate> hi :) OK mabe this is stupid question but i ask anyway.. does anyone know howto start a private chat from irssi?
[17:24] <imbezol> /msg <username>
[17:24] <LinSkyrate> imbezol: ahh thnx :)
[17:24] <xangua> !partner | gr33n7007h
[17:24] <xangua> gr33n7007h: from the software center, you need to enable partner repos
[17:25] <damo22> which text editor lets me select text by columns and not sequentially by rows?
[17:25] <imbezol> damo22: vim can do that
[17:25] <compdoc> hatchetjack, on a fresh install of Ubuntu, it will install everything needed and set it up for you if you were to type:  sudo apt-get install qemu-kvm
[17:25] <damo22> imbezol: how
[17:25] <compdoc> hatchetjack, it also suggests packages you can install seperately, but those arent needed for most situations
[17:26] <damo22> imbezol: for example i want to highlight a fixed width of text and delete just that text
[17:26] <imbezol> damo22: instead of "v" to go into copy mode, do "shift-v"
[17:26] <imbezol> damo22: if you're doing the whole file you can also use "cut" at the command line to do it
[17:26] <compdoc> hatchetjack, the only other package I install is virt-manager
[17:27] <andrew9183> hey guys, my friend is messing with my computer while i'm gone.  is there any way to lock access to everything without locking the computer?  i want him to try desperately for fun but not let him do anything?
[17:27] <damo22> imbezol: no thats not quite what im after
[17:27] <damo22> imbezol: i want to select partial columns of say 10 lines
[17:28] <imbezol> damo22: did you try with vim? you can highlight a square area by moving up and right to highlight the box you want to delete, then hit "d" to make it disappear
[17:28] <damo22> imbezol: sort of like highlighting a block of text on the screen and deleting it from the screen
[17:29] <imbezol> damo22: yeah.. vim does exactly that.. you draw a box, then hit d to delete it
[17:29] <jiltdil> Is compiz working fine on 11.10?
[17:29] <kingfisher64> could someone please help me install a canon pixma mp495 printer/scanner? I've tried all sorts many times over and although ubuntu says a network printer is installed nothing prints. Jobs just freeze in the print queue.
[17:29] <Sargun_Screen> Hey, any idea when Firefox 10 is going to be pushed out to Ubuntu 11.04?
[17:30] <auronandace> jiltdil: try it and find out
[17:30] <damo22> imbezol: i cant make it work using shift-v
[17:30] <damo22> it highlights the whole line
[17:30] <imbezol> damo22: bah.. sorry, it's control-v
[17:31] <damo22> imbezol: THANKS!
[17:31] <imbezol> damo22: np
[17:32] <Hopsy> hey, how do I mount my HDD?
[17:32] <auronandace> !mount | Hopsy
[17:33] <DOjha00> hi
[17:34] <Hopsy> auronandace: what when I cant find the folder?
[17:34] <xangua> !info firefox natty | Sargun_Screen
[17:34] <Hopsy> to mount
[17:34] <marcappuccino> Can anyone help with display issues?
[17:34] <go^> Does anybody know any tool to use my Nokia (N97 mini) with Ubuntu 11.10? Something like OVI Pc Suite..
[17:34] <auronandace> Hopsy: you specify a mountpoint
[17:34] <Hopsy> auronandace: 2 sectors of my HDD isn't doing well
[17:35] <Hopsy> auronandace: how :O ?
[17:35] <biohazard135> hey, my computer is still crashing, i think it may actually be overheating (it's a cheap toshiba) is there any app equivalent to speccy?
[17:35] <biohazard135> need to monitor the degrees on this thing
[17:35] <marcappuccino> I am stuck on 1024x768 resolution and the screen is identified as unknown on sys settings
[17:36] <auronandace> Hopsy: your partitions should be visable/mountable under /media/ (what do you see under /media/?)
[17:37] <DOjha00> Hi, i m new to this server ....Is anyone can see me??
[17:37] <hatchetjack> compdoc: I use virt-manager
[17:37] <compdoc> me too
[17:37] <auronandace> DOjha00: yes, need help?
[17:37] <hatchetjack> compdoc: I can use commandline also but well I'm lazy
[17:37] <hatchetjack> virt-manager is good for lazy people
[17:37] <compdoc> naw
[17:38] <compdoc> its just good
[17:38] <Hopsy> auronandace: I am now on windows
[17:38] <DOjha00> No thanks
[17:38] <Hopsy> I will check that in a minute
[17:38] <hatchetjack> I wonder why I get permissions problems
[17:38] <DOjha00> i was just checking.
[17:39] <Hopsy> hatchetjack: you are not super user?
[17:39] <Hopsy> auronandace: I dont see anything in media
[17:40] <Hopsy> but I can see my HDD is connected in disk utility
[17:40] <auronandace> Hopsy: what does it show: sudo fdisk -l
[17:41] <Hopsy> with some vague 'current pending sector count' error
[17:41] <biohazard135> -_- it happened again! the only word i caught was "udev", pretty sure it's overheating.
[17:41] <auronandace> Hopsy: sounds like you disk is failing, hope you made backups of what you need
[17:43] <hatchetjack> Hopsy: happens whether I am super or not
[17:43] <rick_> very sorry to be off topic but i cant find a cpu channel that is busy enough to get ansers any help is desparetly appreciated im trying to stay as close to ubuntu topic as possible
[17:44] <Oer> rick_, try ##hardware
[17:44] <biohazard135> ok, my cpu is ~44 degrees, that can't be overheating right?
[17:45] <compdoc> hatchetjack, I think virt-manager connects to the service by the loop-back. Maybe your network or host file is messed up. try the coomand line and see if you have the same problems
[17:47] <DOjha00> Hey, Is anyone can help me ??   kget is not working properly .
[17:49] <wodim> yes hello i have a problem with ubuntu what's mark shuttleworth's phone number
[17:49] <soicon> biohazard135: well, mines are 40 and 43, 45 sometimes but it's fine. no suddenly shutdown
[17:50] <biohazard135> soicon: do you have any idea what it could be, someone suggested looking into a chipset driver update, but i don't know where to begin with that.
[17:51] <soicon> biohazard135: your laptop's fan is working well, rite? and what is the laptop's model?
[17:51] <biohazard135> soicon: fans are ok, i could airdust them though. toshiba satellite c6600
[17:51] <Zw> Hi, I just installed tight VNC on my ubuntu server, but i do not have anything else :P
[17:52] <Zw> need kind of GUI or something
[17:52] <compdoc> a client
[17:52] <soicon> biohazard135: how old ?
[17:52] <compdoc> I dont like tightvnc, myself
[17:52] <biohazard135> soicon: uh, a few months
[17:53] <soicon> biohazard135: well, did it happen before? (overheating shutdown)
[17:54] <biohazard135> soicon: no, i was on windows 7 until recently never had any issues.
[17:54] <rty54> hi
[17:55] <soicon> biohazard135: did you upgrade the kernel ?
[17:55] <biohazard135> soicon: no, clean install of 11.10
[17:55] <rty54> www.mmircalem.com
[17:56] <slorbast> Ubuntu have a graphical access log analyzer for Apache. I'd use Libre Calc, but I'm guessing there's already something existing that does that.
[17:57] <slorbast> That first sentence is a question. :x
[17:57] <compdoc> what is the difference between the desktop and alternate downloads?
[17:58] <auronandace> compdoc: the alternate has a textbased installer (well, ncurses)
[17:58] <compdoc> ahh - thanks
[17:58] <auronandace> compdoc: no worries :)
[17:58] <Oer> compdoc, the alternate installer gives you raid setup
[18:00] <jiri> hi, I have problem. I changed the xorg.conf and now ubuntu doesn't like to boot anymore. Also ctrl+alt+F1 does not work.. any idea?
[18:00] <soicon> biohazard135: try installing cpufrequtils and decreasing the CPU freq, it may help temporarily
[18:01] <biohazard135> soicon: thanks
[18:02] <soicon> biohazard135: the heat mainly come from the cores (and graphic card, if available) and cause I'm still on 10.04 so I can't help you much.
[18:03] <bobweaver> hello there is it real bad that my swap is at max ? what will it do to a computer ? can I make swap larger ?
[18:04] <shadaloo> hi
[18:04] <shadaloo> what does %s mean
[18:05] <bobweaver> shadaloo:  in printf ?
[18:05] <shadaloo> ln
[18:05] <jiri> pls, how to get in safe mode on boot in ubuntu 11.10
[18:05] <shadaloo> ln %s
[18:05] <downbeam> can some one help me?
[18:06] <soicon> jiri: safe mode? you meant single user more (root shell) ?
[18:06] <jiri> soicon: yes
[18:06] <mustafaerhann> helloo there.
[18:07] <downbeam> hello all
[18:07] <bobweaver> shadaloo:  like this
[18:07] <soicon> jiri: hold Shift as booting, shown the menu, choosing Recovery mode then selecting root shell, input your root password. youre in
[18:07] <mustafaerhann> helloo
[18:08] <bobweaver> shadaloo: like this ? : printf '%s = %d\n' Lines $LINES
[18:08] <bobweaver> that %s
[18:08] <bobweaver> if so do a man print
[18:08] <downbeam> what a man print?
[18:09] <UICTamale> hi all, I'm unable to boot into my ubuntu 11.10 install.  It keeps hanging at 'checking battery state'.    I've tried setting and un-setting kernel mode settings, reinstalling the amd open-source drivers, the amd closed-source drivers, and re-installing lightdm, all without helping.  Please assist!
[18:09] <llutz> shadaloo: you mean  this example sudo-exploit? "ln -s /usr/bin/sudo ./%s"
[18:09] <jiri> soicon: thx, that works!
[18:09] <downbeam> wil anyone help me here?
[18:09] <mustafaerhann> hello downbeam
[18:10] <shadaloo> ln
[18:10] <shadaloo> what does %s mean
[18:10] <shadaloo> ln %s
[18:10] <downbeam> ok so i can't burn cds with lubuntu
[18:10] <downbeam> is the drive not mounted properly?
[18:10] <shadaloo> downbeam
[18:10] <mustafaerhann> what u using.
[18:10] <shadaloo> no one smart is here atm
[18:10] <bobweaver> downbeam:  install k3b
[18:10] <shadaloo> good luck
[18:11] <mustafaerhann> :D yea +1 to bobweaver.
[18:11] <mustafaerhann> k3b is almost best.
[18:11] <bobweaver> you can also see if it is mounted or seen with a: sudo fdisk -l
[18:11] <soicon> yeah, k3b, i love it too.
[18:11] <bobweaver> I( think
[18:12] <downbeam> i'll try it bob
[18:12] <mustafaerhann> faster than nero in windows
[18:12] <bobweaver> downbeam:  nope make sure therre is a cd or dvd in the drive 1st
[18:12] <mustafaerhann> nero 20min  full 1 dvd write time.   k3b only 4 min. :D
[18:12] <downbeam> there is
[18:13] <bobweaver> good
[18:13] <downbeam> but it didn't tell me anything
[18:13] <nixbox> hi all, i am using gnome-terminal in Ubuntu 11.10, i just had a problem after displaying some proc files. When I press enter in the terminal, the prompt appears on the same line, instead of the next line, also, whatever i type is not shown in the terminal, although it gets executed. Like if i type ls, it would show me the directory listing but will not show me the keystrokes of the command, is there a way to fix this without killing t
[18:13] <downbeam> do i need a graphics driver?
[18:13] <bobweaver> dont know so you ?
[18:14] <bobweaver> downbeam:  let us see a lspci -nn | grep VGA
[18:14] <jag> nixbox, type "reset<enter>", this command resets the terminal but not the bash session
[18:14] <Tm_T> nixbox: does it make any difference if you hit ctrl+l
[18:14] <bobweaver> downbeam:  you also have install ubuntu-restreted -extra   ?
[18:15] <hatchetjack> looks like commandline virt-install fails as well
[18:15] <nixbox> jag: awesome, that fixed it, thanks! :)
[18:15] <hatchetjack> :(
[18:15] <hatchetjack> I don't wanna use virtualbox
[18:15] <downbeam> bob that is too intriquet for me
[18:15] <bobweaver> downbeam:  yep
[18:15] <nixbox> Tm_T: its a "screen" terminal so Ctrl+L was not working
[18:16] <bobweaver> downbeam:  how long ago did you install ?
[18:16] <downbeam> sorry
[18:16] <Tm_T> nixbox: rogery
[18:16] <downbeam> like 1 month
[18:16] <bobweaver> downbeam:  you have medibuntu repo installed ?
[18:17] <bobweaver> downbeam: http://medibuntu.org/repository.php
[18:17] <downbeam> i dont know
[18:17] <bobweaver> do that 1st then we will make sure all codecs are there
[18:17] <bobweaver> downbeam:  ^^
[18:21] <bobweaver> downbeam:  after installing medibuntu do this in terminal:    sudo apt-get --yes --quiet --allow-unauthenticated install ubuntu-restricted-extras libdvdcss2 libdvdcss-dev
[18:22] <Buntbart> why not installing medibuntu-keyring?
[18:22] <BrandonNolet> Problem :S gnome-settings-daemon crashes after about 2 minutes of login. Ubuntu 12.04 Alpha 2(? just updated distro yesterday) How to fix? or even just recover it. It stops usage of the mouse completely
[18:23] <theadmin> !ubuntu+1 | BrandonNolet
[18:23] <bobweaver> BrandonNolet:  try  #ubuntu+1
[18:23] <jimmy_birer> ubottu nigger
[18:23] <bobweaver> !language | jimmy_birer
[18:24] <BrandonNolet> Thank you ubottu and bobweaver :D
[18:25] <indio> Hi. What's the command to get the message about pending updates after tty console login?
[18:26] <bobweaver> indio:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade     ?
[18:26] <compdoc> indio, I have one machine that lists temps and disk usage and pending updates at login - its nice
[18:26] <indio> I mean, that message that goes like this: "You have 1 security update pending. You have 0 packages updates pending".
[18:27] <bobweaver> compdoc:  this is done with motd ? (message of the day ? )
[18:27] <compdoc> bobweaver, Im not sure how it got installed
[18:28] <Zw> how to copy folder with scp?
[18:28] <compdoc> I do use apticron, so maybe thats part of what indio is looking for
[18:29] <Buntbart> ZW: scp -r
[18:29] <bobweaver> Zw:  like ythis >? scp  <file> <username>@<IP address or hostname>:<Destination>
[18:29] <indio> Another question, what's the command to install only security updates?
[18:30] <Zw> folder, not file
[18:31] <Buntbart> ZW: yes that's scp -r user@host/home/user/folder .
[18:32] <Zw> tnx
[18:32] <Zw> was just me writing a string wrong ;P
[18:32] <SegF4ult> D: good god
[18:33] <SegF4ult> I found some Mt. Dew D:
[18:33] <Buntbart> ZW: another way is to use Nautilus, Thunar or whatever and type sftp://user@host in the address bar
[18:33] <fean0r> you can find the scripts in /etc/update-motd.d/
[18:34] <andrew9183> hey guys my friend is messing wtih my computer by going into grub and adding his remote keys so he can ssh in.  is there any way to protect against this ?
[18:34] <bobweaver> andrew9183:  read the part about auth keys https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[18:35] <Buntbart> andrew9183: tell him...
[18:36] <fean0r> indio: you can find the scripts in /etc/update-motd.d/
[18:37] <indio> Thanks
[18:38] <mustafaerhann> bbbys
[18:44] <UeboK> hello, please help me with that problem ! cant fix it for 4 hours . http://doiop.com/page214
[18:45] <cfhowlett> !ask|ubbok
[18:46] <kapz> Installed ubuntu 11.10. I like unity so far...Q : which package or repo should I add to make ubuntu play all kinds of multimedia files like: avi/xvid/divx/flash/quicktime/mp3/mpeg/mkv/mp4 etc etc etc...?
[18:47] <cfhowlett> kapz: medibuntu or ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:47] <pangolin> kapz: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:47] <Buntbart> kapz: try vlc
[18:47] <kapz> ok...out of two which one?
[18:47] <pangolin> kapz: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:47] <yezariaely> anyone can help me: webcam on laptop does not work. Webcam is present in lsusb and lsmod | grep video has an entry video. My user is in group video as well. any ideas?
[18:48] <kapz> ok thanks pangolin :) Also is there a way to auto-hide side dock bar when on desktop?
[18:48] <pangolin> !ccsm | kapz
[18:49] <TomSlominski> Hello. I get signal 11 (segfault) on startx
[18:50] <yezariaely> TomSlominski: that is bad...
[18:50] <yezariaely> reinstall?
[18:50] <yezariaely> (startx)
[18:50] <TomSlominski> what, ubuntu or x?
[18:50] <yezariaely> gettint a segfault ;-)
[18:50] <yezariaely> getting
[18:50] <TomSlominski> yeah, i know that :P
[18:50] <TomSlominski> but what do you want me to reinstall?
[18:50] <TomSlominski> it starts fine on boot, but when i move my mouse it segfaults.
[18:51] <yezariaely> ah hmm
[18:51] <yezariaely> what do the logs say?
[18:52] <TomSlominski> let me have a look
[18:52] <yezariaely> how can I check if the correct driver for my webcam is loaded?
[18:52] <yezariaely> I do not have a /dev/video* file
[18:53] <starlocke1> ...
[18:53] <TomSlominski> my webcam crashes my entire laptop. that is quite annoying as well...
[18:54] <Steevca> I am having a problem with my wired network.
[18:54] <rhin0> question - 18 months ago obliterated completley a copy of windows on brand new dell laptop (didn't even boot it) - installed ubuntu ... now I need to sell the laptop.  The windows key on the back of the laptop is unreadable ... If I phone dell can I retrieve windows installation media for that machine?  The copy of windows previously on it was paid for.
[18:54] <Steevca> It's not detecting my connection.
[18:54] <cfhowlett> rhin0: you'd have to ask dell.
[18:54] <rhin0> ok
[18:55] <TomSlominski> well. X starts but when i try to utilise my touchpad everything goes straight to hell. ill send the logs over in a pastebin
[18:55] <donnieg> if the key is unreadable
[18:55] <donnieg> i think you may be screwed
[18:56] <rhin0> thought there'd be a record with dell
[18:56] <_Marcus> Steevca: Is your ethernet cable plugged in on both ends(your computer and router/wall jack)
[18:56] <yezariaely> TomSlominski: try attach an external mouse. does it work?
[18:56] <rhin0> so maybe you just need the key to re-install
[18:56] <rhin0> seems to me that the key/label is not designed to survive
[18:56] <rhin0> only label on back that is unreadable
[18:56] <TomSlominski> yezariaely, that crashes as well
[18:56] <yezariaely> then, the driver for your touchpad is broken
[18:56] <donnieg> well you can call microsoft and exchange anon working key for a working one for free through phone prompts
[18:56] <rhin0> the sort of crap microsoft would pull
[18:56] <rhin0> but I need the key
[18:56] <donnieg> but I don't know about dell replacing them, I've never heard of that
[18:57] <donnieg> If you have the order number it may be in there
[18:57] <Steevca> _Marcus Yes,it worked earlyer but now it's not working.
[18:57] <yezariaely> I don't think that they do know which keys they have given to which computer
[18:57] <cfhowlett> donnieg: few systems are sold these days WITH the install media.  You have to request it.
[18:57] <_Marcus> Steevca: Did it get unplugged during that time?
[18:58] <yezariaely> anyone has a hint for builtin webcam which does not work? (lsusb shows it, yet there is no /dev/video)
[18:58] <rhin0> something of reply on web "Vendors don't keep a record of serial numbers on their system.  Thei standard answer is it is on the base of the system.  If you can't read it then tough luck and you need to buy a new license."
[18:58] <rhin0> thats absolutely disgusting
[18:58] <donnieg> that does suck
[18:58] <rhin0> im sick of paying for windows I don't use
[18:58] <rhin0> the pc tax
[18:59] <TomSlominski> rhin0: s76? :)
[18:59] <rhin0> s76?
[18:59] <TomSlominski> rhin0: system76
[18:59] <Steevca> _Marcus Nope.I had linux about a month ago installed i have tryed to install it now but i cant,also on fedora and joli os.
[18:59] <_Marcus> rhin: Then use Ubuntu :P
[18:59] <rhin0> whats system 76
[18:59] <Steevca> *It's not working.
[18:59] <TomSlominski> rhin0: they make ubuntu computers. without windows :)
[18:59] <donnieg> yeah
[18:59] <Syph3r> thats a better idea
[18:59] <donnieg> some dells and lenovos can be bought sans os
[19:00] <Syph3r> yea some t61p
[19:01] <tarvid> Given a url, what us the easiest GUI way to add a trusted key to apt?
[19:02] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[19:04] <TomSlominski> http://paste.ubuntu.com/831732/ this is the x log. it starts getting interesting at about 575
[19:04] <yezariaely> TomSlominski: did you try the external mouse?
[19:04] <TomSlominski> yezariaely, yeah, that crashes it as well
[19:06] <tarvid> is there a GUI way to add a trusted key to APT from a URL ?
[19:07] <yezariaely> TomSlominski: sounds like a bug in touchpad's device driver for me
[19:07] <TomSlominski> yezariaely, it worked yesterday :/
[19:07] <yezariaely> tarvid: I suppose xterm does not count? :-p
[19:07] <yezariaely> TomSlominski: what did you change, then?
[19:08] <TomSlominski> yezariaely, actually nothing. i might have updated the system. can you view apt history?
[19:08] <tarvid> Not really. I did what I want to do from the command line but I can see a way to do it through software sources
[19:09] <jerichowasahoax> I'm running an email server (dovecot+I forgot the SMTP right now). Is there a program I can install to have it automatically act on emails based on certain rules?
[19:09] <zleap> hello
[19:09] <dejan7> buonasera a tutti
[19:10] <cfhowlett> !it|dejan7
[19:10] <cfhowlett> zleap: greetings
[19:10] <yezariaely> TomSlominski: /var/log/dpkg
[19:11] <TomSlominski> yezariaely, there isnt one
[19:12] <yezariaely> TomSlominski: Sorry, that was only an abbreviation
[19:12] <yezariaely> I think it is a folder or something
[19:12] <TomSlominski> yezgot it
[19:12] <TomSlominski> yezariaely, got it
[19:15] <skyler_> Can somebody help me?
[19:15] <skyler_> I ran ulimit -v 20000 and now I can't raise the limit again.
[19:17] <Tucks> Does Jupiter actually slow down your laptop/netbook even if you have it set to High Performance?
[19:17] <TomSlominski> yeah, ive updated my ssystem last night. update manager ran a full on system update.
[19:17] <varg> !list
[19:22] <Mike9863> Is there a way to make it so when I middle click or scroll on the title of a window it will minimize?
[19:25] <TomSlominski> xserver-common got updated last night. that will probably be it
[19:25] <philwong> hi
[19:25] <cfhowlett> philwong: greetings
[19:25] <philwong> how much does it cost to hire someone to build your own version of linux?
[19:26] <pangolin> !remaster | philwong
[19:26] <philwong> no no
[19:26] <philwong> I need more invloved modifications
[19:26] <philwong> like caps lock antistick
[19:26] <pangolin> philwong: that is not on topic for this channel.
[19:27] <philwong> ok
[19:27] <philwong> where can I discuss it?
[19:27] <pangolin> maybe try ##linux
[19:27] <cfhowlett> philwong: @linux
[19:27] <richman> òóê-òóê-òóê... åñòü ðóñêîãîâîðÿùèå?
[19:28] <ppetraki> I see that gnome-open is part of the default install for precise anymore, is there a replacement to open files from CLI associated with a mimetype?
[19:28] <ppetraki> s/is/isn't/
[19:28] <theadmin> philwong: You want to disable capslock?... That's an incredibly simple task acomplishable with one command, you don't need to hire someone for that...
[19:28] <philwong> no
[19:29] <Gentoo64> your in the wong channel
[19:29] <Gentoo64> haha
[19:29] <richman> æàëü....
[19:29] <philwong> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/plz-fix-the-caps-lock-response-time-glitch-in-linux-distros-881317/
[19:30] <philwong> this is the issue
[19:30] <pangolin> richman: Please stop that
[19:31] <theadmin> richman: English only in this channel. Also, Unicode plz.
[19:31] <congressmon> I have an issue with trying to install linux ... I have a windows based sys already ... trying to install to either usb stick or usb hdd...
[19:32] <pangolin> !usb | congressmon
[19:32] <congressmon> it's like this machine won't let me install linux using simple methods... or without obliterating current OS which is not an option
[19:32] <rhizmoe> my pulseaudio mixer panel thingy seems to have gotten decoupled from my music player. is there a non-rebooty way of fixing this?
[19:32] <congressmon> I've tried everything ... even the simple WUBI
[19:32] <congressmon> pangolin ..
[19:33] <congressmon> what's the command to quiet all the chatter about entering and leaving users???
[19:34] <_Marcus> congressmon: I think that depends on your IRC client
[19:34] <theadmin> congressmon: Depends on your client
[19:34] <pangolin> /ignore JOINS QUITS PARTS
[19:34] <congressmon> thank u pangolin
[19:34] <theadmin> pangolin: Hm... on irssi, that would ignore QUITS and PARTS from user "JOINS" (makes no sense)
[19:34] <pangolin> that should work on most 'real" irc clients
[19:34] <theadmin> /ignore * JOINS QUITS PARTS NICKS
[19:34] <theadmin> Makes more sense :D
[19:35] <congressmon> it's calmed down some ..
[19:35] <congressmon> thanks
[19:35] <skyler_> does anyone know how to raise ulimit after you lower it?
[19:36] <congressmon> in any case... Pangolin ... I've tried all kinda automatic USB installers including WUBI
[19:37] <pangolin> congressmon: without more information, such as errors you are getting, it will be difficult to guide you.
[19:37] <congressmon> ok .. but now ur talkin
[19:37] <congressmon> "No translation file found for domain" is the error and then the log file location
[19:38] <congressmon> that's for WUBI
[19:38] <philwong> questions
[19:38] <philwong> is there a linux school
[19:38] <philwong> how do you learn such a complex OS?
[19:38] <philwong> well ubuntu ok
[19:38] <congressmon> Phil ... you learn Linux by reading tutorials and manuals
[19:38] <theadmin> philwong: Linux isn't complex. It's much simplier than Windows.
[19:39] <_Marcus> philwong: I don't know about a physical school, but there are many resources online
[19:39] <pangolin> same way you learned how to use windows
[19:39] <philwong> nooo
[19:39] <philwong> not simpler than windows
[19:39] <_Marcus> philwong: If you ate cherioes all your life, and then decided to eat something else, how do you think it would taste?
[19:39] <Slart> I've got a strange problem with my 64bit ubuntu 11.10 desktop. At my left border I have to very small areas (a couple of pixels wide) that are white, it's not a hardware defect since compiz has decided that these areas should be shadowed (like any normal window).
[19:39] <theadmin> philwong: Much, much simplier, especially internally. Trust me, /dev/sda1 is a much more obvious name than "Volume{74cbc440-e365-11e0-ad59-806e6f6e6963}" :P
[19:39] <pangolin> philwong: anyway, this is still offtopic. We do Ubuntu support here, for general linux support use ##linux
[19:40] <philwong> fine ubuntu could be simple
[19:40] <CountVonCount> Hey folks, quick keyboard question:  My numberpad does not seem to work (num lock works but nothing else).  I've tried to change the settings, but was unable to find my actual keyboard's manufacturer...
[19:40] <congressmon> it's simpler if you're technical... but if you're a user it's sort of cryptic which is how windows likes ppl to be
[19:40] <jason___> Does anybody know of a media player that allows the user to search for educational content within it? I'm curious to find an "iTunes U" like alternative for our Ubuntu systems at work since some people are getting attached to iTunes U and we're moving away from Win/Apple systems. Any input?
[19:40] <Slart> These "artifacts" disappear when I reboot but return after a while
[19:40] <philwong> what about the slackware guys
[19:40] <philwong> that aint easy at all
[19:40] <congressmon> "No translation file found for domain" is the error and then the log file location .. that's in WUBI
[19:40] <pangolin> !ot > philwong
[19:40] <Slart> Here's a screenshot of the weirdness.. http://imagebin.org/197646  can anyone explain this?
[19:40] <philwong> haha ok
[19:40] <philwong> srry
[19:41] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[19:41] <congressmon> Pangolin .....
[19:41] <skyler_> was that a net split?
[19:42] <yezariaely> anyone has a samsung laptop with a builtin webcam who can help me getting it work?
 Sorry, I don't know anything about poop
[19:42] <pangolin> congressmon: the link ubottu gave you earlier about how to install to USB should be a some assistance
[19:42] <yezariaely> skyler_: it did say so ...
[19:42] <congressmon> I downloaded the ISO file and burned it ...  no boot from CD ... settings correct in BioS
[19:42] <congressmon> I've read that before
[19:43] <congressmon> I've tried those USB Installers ... including Unetbootin
[19:44] <openvoid> !nounity
[19:44] <marcuswe> Hi everyone, I'm new here and have a question, do I just type it in here?
[19:45] <jason___> yes
[19:45] <goddard> can some one tell me how i connect to team foundation server in linux?
[19:45] <yezariaely> congressmon: what exactly does not work?
[19:45] <levifig> what's the partition utility that is part of Ubuntu *Server* installation?
[19:46] <yezariaely> levifig: fdisk maybe?
[19:46] <yezariaely> levifig: cfdisk is 'more' gui-like
[19:46] <nils-> I think it uses parted
[19:47] <xh> hi! excuse me, but how the .... can i disable auto-maximize in lubuntu lxde? i find it inhuman..
[19:48] <celestius> my default libmysql client is set to libmysqlclient16 instead of 18, which is what i need, though i have some packages which need 16 (i think their package descriptions just might not have been updated). how should i change this?
[19:48] <IanWizard> xh, don't use lxde :P
[19:48] <IanWizard> xh, joking, I believe that it's in the settings.  but I haven't used LXDE in a while
[19:49] <Newb> is there a way from command line to turn off the fan?
[19:49] <IanWizard> Newb, yes
[19:49] <skyler_> what channel do I go to get help with servers?
[19:49] <congressmon> I get no action from boot ...
[19:49] <PW-toXic> hi, I changed a setting in /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini and saved it. then i did /etc/init.d/apache2 restart, but the changes did not change the behavior of php.. is there any trick?
[19:49] <IanWizard> Newb, if you go to /sys/class/hwmon
[19:49] <congressmon> no boot
[19:49] <IanWizard> the fan is somewhere below that, you'll have to find it for your system though
[19:49] <xh> IanWizard: it looks like it is not an lxde thing, but a -buntu thing, googling said that it must be configurable via ccsm but it is not in the standard repos, at least not in lubuntu
[19:50] <congressmon> skips down to windows disk and starts windows...
[19:50] <yezariaely> congressmon: the bootloader does start?
[19:50] <Newb> IanWizard, and do what
[19:50] <marcuswe> Ok thanks, I've just installed 11.10 and trying to get my bluetooth wireless keyboard connected, the mouse was found in bluetooth devices and is working, but the keyboard did not. They connect to the same USB dongle. Why does it not find the keyboard. The keyboard is: Microsoft Optical Desktop for Bluetooth Keyboard. Someone have a clue?
[19:50] <congressmon> no
[19:50] <TomSlominski> ##fedora
[19:50] <congressmon> no bootloader
[19:50] <IanWizard> Newb, echo 0 > pwm1
[19:50] <TomSlominski> fail, that is not how you join a channel tom! sorry
[19:50] <yezariaely> yezariaely: is the bootloader installed in MBR?
[19:50] <malkauns> is there any quick proxy switching software for 11.10?
[19:50] <IanWizard> Newb, for me, your file may be different
[19:50] <yezariaely> congressmon: is the bootloader installed in MBR
[19:51] <Newb> IanWizard, and to turn back on
[19:51] <congressmon> how do I check the MBR for a USB stick ?
[19:51] <yezariaely> similar as with a hdd
[19:51] <IanWizard> Newb, echo <speed> > pwm1
[19:51] <IanWizard> where speed is a number between 1, and 255
[19:51] <Newb> IanWizard, tkx
[19:51] <congressmon> it's supposed to be automatically done by the installer ... right?
[19:51] <IanWizard> Newb, np, it working?
[19:51] <larbeem> hello
[19:52] <congressmon> at least it says it's doing that in the details
[19:52] <Newb> IanWizard, im gonna try now
[19:52] <yezariaely> congressmon: kind of, did you check your usb stick on different computers?
[19:52] <IanWizard> Newb, oh, you'll have to echo 1 > pwm1_enable first
[19:52] <Guest13384> sometimes the computer just shuts down in the middle of use ubuntu 11.10
[19:53] <congressmon> no I didn't check it on another machine
[19:53] <Guest13384> is there anywhere to review logs of these occurrences? The machine is set not to go into sleep or hibrination
[19:53] <yezariaely> congressmon: can you? is there some other machine around?
[19:53] <rfuller> help
[19:53] <ariana> Guest13384 /var/log
[19:53] <yezariaely> rfuller: Unknown command
[19:53] <congressmon> I'm also trying to install it on a USB hdd I have
[19:53] <IanWizard> Guest13384, it may be overheating, it has an auto shutdown
[19:54] <m0r0n> How can I unistall Glib? Latest ubuntu currently
[19:54] <yezariaely> congressmon: you tried netbootin?
[19:54] <congressmon> yeah UNetbootin
[19:54] <Newb> IanWizard, no joy
[19:54] <Guest13384> IanWizard, is there some app I can run to monitor the cpu temp
[19:54] <Newb> tks any way
[19:54] <yezariaely> congressmon: did you take a look at the MBR of the usb stick?
[19:55] <Guest13384> ariana, there are lots of files there which one should I start with?
[19:55] <IanWizard> Guest13384, a number, but it will depend on what you want, gnome has an applet, e17 has an applet
[19:55] <IanWizard> gkrellm should do it
[19:55] <IanWizard> Newb, hmm, do:  ls /sys/class/hwmon
[19:55] <malkauns> is there any quick proxy switching software for 11.10?
[19:55] <IanWizard> Newb, and what's listed?
[19:56] <congressmon> yezz..   I'm not sure if I'm lookin at the right thing ...
[19:56] <congressmon> as far as MBR
[19:56] <ariana> Guest13384 might be syslog
[19:56] <congressmon> on a USB stick
[19:57] <ariana> Guest13384 tail syslog
[19:57] <IanWizard> Guest13384, /var/log/syslog
[19:57] <Newb> IanWizard, name  power  subsystem  temp1_crit  temp1_input  uevent, no problem ill work it out another time
[19:57] <IanWizard> ariana, tail probably wont get it, I had to dig when it was happening to me.
[19:58] <Newb> IanWizard, g2g tks anyway
[19:58] <ariana> IanWizard, ok then gedit or something
[19:58] <Guest13384> IanWizard, ariana, thanks, will give it a look
[19:58] <Steevca> Ok,so i am having problems with my network adpater.I have TP-LINK TF-3200 and it's not detected on Ubuntu 11.10,Fedora 15 and Joli OS all are 32 bit.So i asume that drivers are the problem because on windows xp pro it's working fine.
[19:58] <Steevca> How can i fix it?
[19:58] <Guest13384> IanWizard, ariana, I know I prob need to clean the heatsink
[19:58] <benbloom_> I;m having problems reading my email with thunderbird 9. I think the new update caused problems and I can't figure out how to fix them. I've tried a apt-get purge and install after backing up and deleting ~/.thunderbird but the problem persists. is there somewhere else that thunderbird settings are stored for use with kde?
[19:58] <marcuswe> Someone know how or can redirect me to a forum to wich I would be able to find out how to get my bluetooth keyboard connected, it does not show up on devices when I search. The mouse however do, and it is connected to the same microsoft usb bluetooth dongle.
[19:59] <IanWizard> Newb, that's for the temp probe, not for the fan, that should be under something like /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon0, not just /hwmon
[19:59] <ariana> marcuswe, have you tried wrapped driver?
[20:00] <cfhowlett> Confirmed - my optical drive has died.  /jackbauermode: on DAMMIT!
[20:00] <Slart> I've got a strange problem with my 64bit ubuntu 11.10 desktop. At my left border I have to very small areas (a couple of pixels wide) that are white, it's not a hardware defect since compiz has decided that these areas should be shadowed (like any normal window). Here's a screenshot of the problem. http://imagebin.org/197646 . Does anyone know what this is? how to fix it?
[20:00] <marcuswe> adriana, no I have'nt. Where can I find that?
[20:01] <congressmon> I shouldn't have to FDISK it should I? ??
[20:01] <ariana> marcuswe, try some googling about ndiswrapper
[20:01] <Steevca> Anyone?
[20:01] <marcuswe> ariana, thanks I'll do that.
[20:02] <IanWizard> djQuery, word of advice...
[20:02] <IanWizard> djQuery,     grep -R 'crit' /var/log/syslog
[20:03] <fellayaboy> im sshed into a remote server...if i want to scp..i would have to have the router on my local network opened for ssh??
[20:04] <IanWizard> fellayaboy, no
[20:04] <fellayaboy> i never used scp before
[20:04] <Steevca> Ok,so i am having problems with my network adpater.I have TP-LINK TF-3200 and it's not detected on Ubuntu 11.10,Fedora 15 and Joli OS all are 32 bit.So i asume that drivers are the problem because on windows xp pro it's working fine.
[20:04] <fellayaboy> so i would just put in my username@and public ip address when i scp
[20:05] <fellayaboy> so i woudl be like this... scp remoteusername@publicipaddress mylocalusername@ipaddress?
[20:05] <blinkoss> Anyone know whyh in 2012 it still takes 6 minutes for an Intel Core 2 Duo machine to boot up and log in?
[20:05] <IanWizard> fellayaboy, just disconnect (or open another terminal), and scp user@host:file local_path
[20:05] <IanWizard> fellayaboy, that assumes that you're copping FROM the server, to go to, you'd use the local_path first
[20:05] <yezariaely> congressmon: are you on windows or linux?
[20:06] <ericus> Hi! I have a question regarding .bashrc and aliases. I have this in .bashrc: alias blinkenshell='ssh ericus@a.server'.
[20:06] <djQuery> IanWizard, doesnt bring up anything
[20:06] <IanWizard> djQuery, then that's probably not your problem
[20:06] <ericus> How would I change that to get gnome-terminal to open and run that command via alt+f2 blinkenshell
[20:06] <ericus> ?
[20:07] <IanWizard> *probably*
[20:07] <IanWizard> fellayaboy, no, you'd be like scp username@publicipaddress ./file
[20:07] <IanWizard> fellayaboy, no, you'd be like scp username@publicipaddress:/home/username/file  ./file
[20:07] <m0r0n> How can I re-install glib
[20:07] <IanWizard> fellayaboy, ignore the first one
[20:07] <congressmon> I'm using Windows Vista
[20:08] <congressmon> 32-bit
[20:08] <congressmon> CPU AMD64 Athlon x2
[20:09] <eukreign> Makefile question: I'm using a make file for collecting random bits of shell commands that I want to execute in my project but this becomes problematic since Makefile checks for filename first, so I have to use .PHONY. I would like to be able to say that all targets in a Makefile are PHONY, is there a way to do that? and finally, is there an alternative to Makefiles that would let me do the same thing? (one other annoy
[20:09] <fellayaboy> im trying to copy from the remote server im sshed into lets say my remote username is mrhand and my local is fellayaboy
[20:10] <fellayaboy> IanWizard,
[20:10] <fellayaboy> how would that work cuz im a little confused
[20:10] <Toctiz> hi is this the ubuntu chat room?
[20:10] <Pimo> where can i find my output like vga-0?
[20:10] <IanWizard> fellayaboy, you copy from one location (a server), to another (the local file system), assuming that your filename is myfile:
[20:10] <Toctiz> ?
[20:11] <Toctiz> UBUNTU DONT WORK
[20:11] <fellayaboy> alright so i would scp mrhand@itspublicipaddress:home/mrhand/myfile ./myfile... thats it?
[20:11] <IanWizard> scp mrhand@address:/home/mrhand/myfile ./myfile
[20:11] <Toctiz> after a time the screen goes purple after the boot menu
[20:11] <m0r0n> Toctiz: read the topic.
[20:11] <Toctiz> ok
[20:11] <fellayaboy> ok
[20:11] <fellayaboy> brb ima see if that worked
[20:12] <Toctiz> oh sorry i am using a chat client
[20:12] <xubanchu> how do i set the mac address on wakeup from sleep?
[20:12] <Toctiz> is the "purple screen" fixed?
[20:12] <echo083> ubuntu is great
[20:12] <Toctiz> yeah i know
[20:13] <Steevca> Ok,how can i install this driver.It has a compact.h,crc32.h,ethtool.h,makefile,mii.c,mii.h and sundance_main.c ???
[20:13] <IanWizard> Toctiz, it's not broken, it's supposed to do that
[20:13] <Toctiz> i like it but i get the purple screen after the grub menu
[20:13] <theadmin> Steevca: makefile :P Just type "make"
[20:13] <ericus> Hi! I have a question regarding .bashrc and aliases. I have this in .bashrc: alias blinkenshell='ssh ericus@a.server'. How would I make it possible to run in gnome-terminal when I do alt+f2 and enter blinkenshell?
[20:13] <Toctiz> but thats all it does it stays blank and purple
[20:13] <Steevca> theadmin Oh,so i put it on a flash drive and but it on a linux.
[20:14] <theadmin> Steevca: Well cd to the proper folder and "make"
[20:14] <Steevca> Will it just start to install or what? I am kinda new with this.
[20:14] <ariana> Toctiz start it via console in grub
[20:14] <ariana> Toctiz startx
[20:14] <Steevca> theadmin And the proper folder is? xD
[20:14] <Toctiz> how do i do that?
[20:14] <theadmin> Steevca: How am I supposed to know -_- wherever you put it
[20:14] <Toctiz> i used the wubi installation
[20:14] <fellayaboy> i dont know whats going on i was able to cd into a directory now its saying permission denied..i didnt modify the folder...its a keys folder from openvpn any ideas?
[20:14] <m0r0n> How can I re-install glib?
[20:14] <Steevca> theadmin Oh,you mean i can put it anywhere?
[20:15] <theadmin> Steevca: Yeah, long as it's all in the same place and the makefile is there :D Then go there and type in "make && sudo checkinstall"
[20:15] <ariana> Toctiz, for me it was recovery mode in grub and then on the black screen the command startx
[20:15] <theadmin> Steevca: But first... sudo apt-get install build-essential flex bison m4 checkinstall
[20:15] <reef> Hi, new to ubuntu. got a sony laptop running ubuntu only, need to add a windows .exe file to bios for a new battery. anyone know an easy way?
[20:15] <ariana> Toctiz, but the blank screen happend to me many times in new ubuntu
[20:16] <Toctiz> ok thanks :)
[20:16] <ariana> Toctiz, I mean there is sthing with those new versions
[20:16] <Toctiz> yes i amusing the new version aswell
[20:16] <Toctiz> i thing i will get a older version :)
[20:16] <rata> Hi
[20:16] <Toctiz> HI
[20:17] <ericus> Hi! I have a question regarding .bashrc and aliases. I have this in .bashrc: alias blinkenshell='ssh ericus@blinkenshell.org'. How would I make it possible to make it open in gnome-terminal when I do alt+f2 and enter blinkenshell? Right now I first need to open a terminal and then enter blinkenshell.
[20:17] <Steevca> theadmin Thanks.
[20:17] <ariana> Toctiz, rather after fresh install dont update some things through update manager, there are some bugs or something, then U should rather use LTS, for me LTS was better
[20:18] <Toctiz> ok
[20:18] <TC_UbuntuNewbee> evening, anyone having experience running libtrash with vsftp?
[20:19] <Bastian_B> Hi, is it possible to resize ubuntu partition to install another os next to it?
[20:19] <ariana> Bastian_B, it is possible
[20:20] <Bastian_B> ariana, nice to hear! Do you know a guide about it ?
[20:20] <ariana> Bastian_B, U should boot from Live CD or Live USB stick, then U should use gparted to resize partition
[20:20] <Toctiz> bye
[20:20] <TC_UbuntuNewbee> or alternativley how to add an export LD_PRELOAD to an vsftp running with inetd
[20:21] <thetinyjesus> Anyone know if there is an ios 5 fix yet for syncing
[20:21] <Bastian_B> ariana, allright I see the trick, thanks a lot
[20:22] <IanWizard> I can't wait for the betterness that's 12.04
[20:22] <IanWizard> Wondering about rhythmbox though, it doesn't sync very well with my phone.
[20:22] <ariana> IanWizard, sometimes I think it goin down the hill with ubuntu in some aspects
[20:23] <ariana> IanWizard, maybe we should join the prog team :)
[20:24] <Itreof> I have seen and read about why Ubuntu Desktop 64-bit is not recommended and the 32-bit is. However, looking at the Ubuntu Server, 32-bit is not recommended and 64-bit is...now I am a little confused as to why? I would like to use a 32-bit server and a 64-bit OS, or just both as 32-bit. What is the difference between the two bits as far as server and desktop is concerned?
[20:24] <jrib> Itreof: if you have 4gb of ram or greater, use 64bit, end of story imo
[20:25] <TC_UbuntuNewbee> +
[20:25] <Zw_> Hi. I installed tightVNC, but do not have any GUI, do anyone know any good GUIs ? So i can connect to the server with vnc?
[20:25] <IanWizard> ariana, :)
[20:26] <TC_UbuntuNewbee> realvnc and tightvnc are available for various os
[20:26] <TC_UbuntuNewbee> the viewer is normally free
[20:27] <TC_UbuntuNewbee> or wait - do you want to connect to the cli with vnc??
[20:28] <Zw_> i did it before
[20:28] <Zw_> just have to install a desktop (ui)
[20:29] <Itreof> TC_UbuntuNewbee, I want to connect either way with vnc. However, I was just curious why the 64-bit version was recommended for server, and the 32-bit for client?
[20:29] <ericus> Hi! I have a question regarding .bashrc and aliases. I have this in .bashrc: alias blinkenshell='ssh ericus@a.server'. How would I make it possible to run in gnome-terminal when I do alt+f2 and enter blinkenshell?
[20:30] <TC_UbuntuNewbee> sorry Itrefo, was talking about ZW_'s problem
[20:30] <Roachmmflhyr> Itreof, typically servers should have more RAM, if a server was running 32 bit OS then it was only be able to utilize 4 GB of RAM
[20:30] <fean0r> ericus: open terminal before starting ssh-session (like xterm -e ssh ...)
[20:32] <TC_UbuntuNewbee> anybody knows where to put an export LD_PRELOAD so vsftpd can use it? I want to protect the ftp share against accidental deletes
[20:36] <malev_> hello! what is the name of the last ubuntu release?
[20:36] <aeon-ltd> malev_: oneiric ocelot
[20:36] <SvenL-> Oneiric Ocelot, latest stable version maletor
[20:37] <SvenL-> oops, malev_*
[20:37] <hu-man_> rc.xs4all.nl 6664
[20:37] <malev_> Seveas, aeon-ltd thanks!!
[20:39] <dbugger> hey guys. Im using natty and Id like to add some repository to have a more updated version of virtualbox. Can someone recommend me any repository?
[20:40] <IanWizard> dbugger, oracle.com
[20:40] <dbugger> IanWizard, ive looked around but the downloaded version gives me a dependency error
[20:40] <IanWizard> dbugger, use gdebi
[20:40] <dbugger> IanWizard, I dont know how to use that. What is that?
[20:42] <Tiktalik> ugh
[20:42] <Tiktalik> so, my dad got this wireless adapter for his laptop that says "linux supported" on the box
[20:43] <Tiktalik> i need to compile a driver
[20:43] <Tiktalik> it is an asus USB-N13 wireless adapter
[20:43] <IanWizard> dbugger, sudo apt-get install gdebi-gtk
[20:43] <warfaren> thats usually not too hard, are you familiar with the make command?
[20:43] <TC_UbuntuNewbee>  @dbugger: Start at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GDebi
[20:44] <IanWizard> dbugger, then after that's done, use:    gdebi-gtk  <package_file_for_virtualbox>
[20:44] <IanWizard> dbugger, it will resolve the deps for you.
[20:44] <Tiktalik> warfaren: yeah, I compile software a lot. anyway, in part of the instructions it says...
[20:44] <IanWizard> dbugger, and it seems to work much better than software-center
[20:44] <Tiktalik> warfaren: erm, may I PM you?
[20:44] <dbugger> IanWizard, gdebi-gtk doesnt appear in my repositories
[20:45] <IanWizard> dbugger, are you using Ubuntu?
[20:45] <Slart> I've got a strange problem with my 64bit ubuntu 11.10 desktop. At my left border I have to very small areas (a couple of pixels wide) that is white, it's not a hardware defect since compiz has decided that these areas should be shadowed (like any normal window). Here's a screenshot of the problem. http://imagebin.org/197646 . Does anyone know what this is? how to fix it?
[20:45] <dbugger> IanWizard, natty
[20:45] <IanWizard> dbugger, ahh, it's just gdebi in the repos
[20:45] <SvenL-> Anybody familiar with installing on recent laptops that are suspect to have UEFI bios support ?
[20:45] <warfaren> yeah but youre probably better off talking in this channel, most people are probably better than me anyways, Tiktalik
[20:45] <IanWizard> dbugger, , command is still -gtk though
[20:45] <warfaren> Tiktalik: but sure let me see what u habe to say
[20:46] <dbugger> IanWizard, it gives me the same error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libpython2.7 (>= 2.7)
[20:46] <exiff> Hello,
[20:46] <rebe> what is best torrent downloader for ubuntu ?
[20:46] <TC_UbuntuNewbee> nobody ever needed to protect his ftp against accidental deletes?
[20:46] <IanWizard> dbugger, hmm, that's odd, have you messed witht he repos?
[20:46] <dbugger> IanWizard, no
[20:46] <IanWizard> dbugger, cause that should be no problem for it.
[20:46] <TC_UbuntuNewbee> @rebe - ask 5 ppl and you will get 5 answers :) personally I use Transmission
[20:47] <SvenL-> I use Transmission to
[20:47] <exiff> I'm having trouble with encryptfs in lucid. It seems to be filling up my hdd no matter what i do.
[20:47] <jpk> Question: Is there a way to associate a keypair with a particular host?  (So I don't have to give '-i path/to/key')
[20:47] <dbugger> IanWizard, I did nothing
[20:47] <SvenL-> because it was there by default on Debian
[20:47] <IanWizard> dbugger, you can make the dire +a or something, but that's FAR from ideal.
[20:47] <dbugger> IanWizard, i have no idea what that is
[20:47] <IanWizard> dbugger, hmm...
[20:48] <dbugger> but "dire" doesnt seem like a desirible idea to me
[20:49] <bchirls> How does one install linux-restricted-modules-XXX on oneiric? I'm looking at ubuntu community docs BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, which says I need those modules and the headers, but I cannot find them. Thanks.
[20:49] <nicholas_> how dose this work
[20:50] <dbugger> IanWizard, ...
[20:50] <IanWizard> bchirls, I suggest jockey if you're trying to get the nvidia drivers to work, but  as for your question, the -XXX isn't the actual module, it's a placeholder.  you *should* be able to just install ubuntu-restricted-modules, and it get it
[20:50] <IanWizard> dbugger, it's a scripting language
[20:51] <IanWizard> dbugger, and 2.7 is the current 2.x release, and I have running on several servers
[20:51] <dbugger> IanWizard, isnt there like some repository I could just add, that would update my virtualbox-ose automatically?
[20:51] <exiff> Any ideas of what to do with encryptfs?
[20:52] <bchirls> IanWizard: Thanks. Yes, I assume -XXX is to be replaced by a version number. apt-get doesn't seem to have ubuntu-restricted-modules-<anything>. All I see are ubuntu-restricted-addons and -extras. I don't know jockey, but I will google it...
[20:52] <propellerdnk1> I need help.I'm looking for Russian speaking members.  on channel # ubuntu-ru, I care not received
[20:53] <IanWizard> dbugger, not that I'm aware of, google would be the one to ask
[20:53] <propellerdnk1> I'm seek russian-langue  members
[20:53] <dbugger> IanWizard, I guess no the. Thanks for the help
[20:54] <IanWizard> propellerdnk1, we heard you, there just aren't any here right now.
[20:54] <IanWizard> exiff, use it to keep your files encrypted
[20:54] <TC_UbuntuNewbee> @dbugger: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads ?
[20:55] <cfhowlett> propellerdnk1: http://forum.ubuntu.ru/
[20:55] <TC_UbuntuNewbee> deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian oneiric contrib
[20:55] <TC_UbuntuNewbee> google is your friend :D
[20:55] <exiff> That's not my problem IanWizard, my problem is that it has eaten up all my disc space
[20:55] <IanWizard> exiff, it doesn't use that much more space than not having it
[20:56] <IanWizard> exiff, you're probably seeing two copies of everything, the one in your home dir, and the one in the /home/.ecrypt dir
[20:56] <propellerdnk1> cfhowlett:   I wrote a topic - I need to translate it into English
[20:56] <exiff> IanWizard,my hard drive is full. But i have almost no files in there
[20:56] <cfhowlett> propellerdnk1:  http://forum.ubuntu.ru/
[20:56] <IanWizard> exiff, then you've got a problem
[20:57] <IanWizard> how big is your drive
[20:57] <exiff> IanWizard,you don't say... :/
[20:57] <IanWizard> exiff, you didn't ecrypt the whole drive did you?
[20:57] <exiff> No, just the home folder i think
[20:58] <IanWizard> exiff, do       df         on the command line, and see what it says
[20:58] <IanWizard> exiff, or pastebin it
[20:58] <exiff> Roger
[20:58] <TC_UbuntuNewbee> might I suggest: df -h
[20:59] <mateusz> yo
[20:59] <SvenL-> Oh let's try again, now that it's calm, anybody familiar with EFI/BIOS things ?
[20:59] <IanWizard> TC_UbuntuNewbee, oh that's nice, I've never used that :P
[21:00] <TC_UbuntuNewbee> it was fpr exiff, I was fairly certain, that you know it :)
[21:00] <exiff> TC_UbuntuNewbee, Fpr?
[21:00] <TC_UbuntuNewbee> for
[21:01] <TC_UbuntuNewbee> -h makes the df output "human readable" - so you don't have to count all the zeros :D
[21:03] <exiff> IanWizard, http://pastebin.com/zs4AiqBf
[21:04] <IanWizard> exiff, that's awfully small
[21:04] <IanWizard> exiff, 35G
[21:04] <Hans__> Hello, can anyone help me with a problem?
[21:05] <cfhowlett> !justas|Hans_
[21:05] <cfhowlett> !justask|Hans_
[21:05] <exiff> IanWizard,size doesnt matter... i only have 3GB files in there.. where is the other 32GB
[21:05] <clawlinux> Free Unix Shells ;`)
[21:06] <manjisu> mm
[21:06] <celestius> yeah Hans_ IRC etiquette takes some getting used from the perspective of what's polite IRL but it's well-suited to its medium. just go for it. :)
[21:06] <Hans__> So this is my problem, im trying to install ubuntu side by side with windows 7, i have downloaded it installed it (cd) and everyone worked good, but when i boot i doesn't have a option to boot in ubuntu,
[21:07] <ariana> Hans__, update grub
[21:07] <Hans__> how do i update grub?
[21:07] <manjisu> probably gremlins
[21:07] <TC_UbuntuNewbee> Any idea why locate doesn't work in this case? http://pastebin.com/cYN1R5pf
[21:07] <sweb> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9164442/font-face-in-firefox-8-on-linux-and-firefox-3-6-on-winxp
[21:07] <sweb> i just want to know this problem is for os or browser. i dont want to solve it. depend on version of firefox or between linux or windows
[21:07] <ariana> Hans__, google it
[21:07] <thetinyjesus> Anyone know if there is an ios 5 fix yet for syncing
[21:07] <ariana> Hans__, many how tos
[21:08] <MonkeyDust> !google| ariana
[21:08] <manjisu> i hate it when people say google it
[21:08]  * celestius likes that ubottu has a google blurb
[21:09] <leeping__> Hi there, something's wrong with my desktop.  I want to restart my desktop manager, but I really don't want to restart the computer.  I already tried restarting lightdm but that didn't restore the desktop to its 'fresh' state.  Any other suggestions?
[21:09] <ariana> Hans__, you should boot into Ubuntu and then from Live CD update grub to have all options to boot up
[21:09] <thetinyjesus> Anyone know if there is an ios 5 fix yet for syncing
[21:09] <celestius> leeping__ log out and log back in?
[21:10] <celestius> i have two versions of the libmysqlclient library installed - how do i specify which one is the default?
[21:10] <leeping__> celestius, I'm worried I'll lose my background processes (the ones that i started from the command line)
[21:10] <leeping__> but let me try it
[21:10] <celestius> uh, hold on
[21:10] <celestius> that's a good reason not to just log out
[21:10] <celestius> leeping__
[21:10] <Hans__> Exactly how do i update grub? I can't find any good documentation on that
[21:10] <leeping__> celestius, i haven't logged out yet
[21:10] <celestius> ok
[21:10] <celestius> what's wrong, more specifically, leeping__ ?
[21:11] <leeping__> The bar on the left is there but there are no window icons
[21:11] <leeping__> and if I try to launch evolution from the command line, it doesn't behave properly (I can't read my email)
[21:11] <ariana> Hans__, it should be command in terminal: sudo update-grub
[21:12] <leeping__> but I have a server running on this machine that is communicating with a bunch of  clusters for some computations that i'm running, i don't want to shut that down
[21:12] <Oer> no sudo needed for update-grub
[21:12] <leeping__> It's running in a screen window, and i am not sure if logging out will kill it
[21:12] <leeping__> screen as in GNU screen
[21:12] <celestius> if it's in screen, you should be fine
[21:12] <holstein> i find sudo *is* need for update grub
[21:13] <cfhowlett> holstein: agreed
[21:13] <leeping__> celestius, let me try. i'll be back
[21:13] <celestius> opk
[21:13] <reapingwildoats> on a fresh install of ubuntu 11.10 on two different pcs, one required additional drivers to get my wireless adapter working, the other did not.  I was using the same usb wireless adapter.  Why would this be the case???
[21:14] <holstein> reapingwildoats: the *exact* same, or just the same brand?
[21:14] <reapingwildoats> yeah 1 adapter, 2 pcs, 1 ubuntu live cd
[21:14] <IanWizard> exiff, do a       du -ch /home/nova
[21:14] <celestius> howd that work, leeping__ ?
[21:14] <IanWizard> exiff, and paste it.
[21:14] <leeping__> celestius, I'm back, my screen window hasn't crashed but my windows still aren't behaving properly
[21:15] <holstein> reapingwildoats: the *exact* same iso?
[21:15] <reapingwildoats> actually one I installed from the live cd, the other I installed from usb. but both 11.10
[21:15] <celestius> how so?
[21:15] <exiff> IanWizard,roger
[21:15] <IanWizard> exiff, sorry for the delay, getting lunch
[21:15] <reapingwildoats> are there changes made while keeping the version 11.10?
[21:15] <holstein> reapingwildoats: you can have said "download updates while installing" and a kernel upgrade supported the device.. i would lose sleep over it.. *something* was different
[21:15] <sda1986> hi all! I'm compiling the kernel, i have an I5-2430, what kind of processor family should i take?
[21:16] <reapingwildoats> I'm not losing sleep, just curious and its my day off
[21:16] <exiff> It's alright
[21:16] <leeping__> celestius, check out this screenshot:
[21:16] <celestius> perfect, i was just about to ask :)(
[21:16] <leeping__> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5381783/LeftSide.png
[21:16] <exiff> Lots of output
[21:16] <reapingwildoats> so do they add updates to the iso while keeping the version # the same?
[21:16] <leeping__> you see how it looks like a bunch of icons are clustered in the upper left
[21:17] <IanWizard> exiff, yep, you can just paste the last few lines if you want
[21:17] <leeping__> but if I click on that, nothing happens.
[21:17] <celestius> oy. do you have the compiz extended settings thing installed leeping__ ?
[21:17] <IanWizard> exiff, or just the last (grand total) line in here
[21:17] <exiff> Roger
[21:17] <leeping__> celestius, I might have it, what is the name of the package (or the program that i run to open the window)?
[21:18] <michele__> ciao
[21:18] <michele__> list!
[21:18] <celestius> leeping__: the package is called compizconfig-settings-manager
[21:18] <mimico>  I don't know if this is possible, but I want to be able to ssh from one laptop into another laptop, when both laptops are at my uni.  Is this possible, or how would I go aout finding information on how to do this?
[21:18] <cfhowlett> !it|michele_
[21:18] <leeping__> celestius, i just installed it
[21:18] <holstein> reapingwildoats: that can happen.. you can also download them upgrades while installing... 10.04.3 for example is updated packages from 10.04.1
[21:18] <celestius> like, right now, or earlier?
[21:18] <leeping__> just now
[21:18] <leeping__> and i just ran ccsm
[21:19] <reapingwildoats> yeah but I would need a working wireless adapter to install the updates while installing
[21:19] <reapingwildoats> download an update to fix wireless... lol
[21:19] <celestius> because you don't want it, heh. i asked because it's unstable and it's easy to get your desktop into a weird state but a lot of people use it
[21:19] <exiff> IanWizard, http://pastebin.com/iRinTer4
[21:20] <reapingwildoats> everytime I use compiz my synaptic goes crazy.  starts saying packages fail to install even though they didnt
[21:20] <reapingwildoats> I have sworn it off :)
[21:20] <leeping__> celestius, i see, i thought it was a tool I could've used to fix something :)
[21:20] <celestius> ah yeah, sorry
[21:20] <celestius> leeping__: can you give me the output of ls -a ~ ?
[21:21] <celestius> i think it might just be easiest to go in and delete the config files for the unity panel
[21:21] <celestius> it'll restore them to defaults
[21:21] <IanWizard> exiff, I would say that something is seriously messed up.
[21:21] <celestius> but i cant remember their exact location off the top of my head
[21:21] <leeping__> celestius, http://paste.ubuntu.com/831916/
[21:21] <leeping__> which file is it?
[21:22] <exiff> IanWizard, im guessing i'll have to migrate home
[21:22] <IanWizard> exiff, maybe just try rebooting, if that doesn't work... maybe you have to drop ecrypt
[21:22] <IanWizard> and then re-install it.
[21:22] <leeping__> I guess you can't tell which ones are files, and which ones are folders :P
[21:22] <celestius> ah it's fine
[21:22] <jskelington> I am having a problem with my ubuntu installations. They are all automatically taking screenshots
[21:22] <celestius> and leeping__ they'll be in either .compiz-1 or .gnome2, probably the latter. can i ask you to poke around?
[21:23] <celestius> someone else in the channel might remember more specifically, too
[21:23] <leeping__> celestius, sure
[21:23] <exiff> IanWizard,how do i 'drop it then reinstall it'?
[21:23] <leeping__> In compiz-1 there look to be files called '../.compiz-1/session/1038dd983998ca5dbb13279524137412600000068600043
[21:23] <leeping__> and the like
[21:24] <celestius> go ahead and put those in the trash
[21:24] <celestius> don't rm them, just in case
[21:24] <leeping__> How do I trash something from the command line? :)
[21:24] <thetinyjesus> sudo apt-key add -
[21:24] <celestius> good q. is there a 'trash' command? there might be, now that you mention it.
[21:25] <celestius> you can also do 'nautilus .'
[21:25] <IanWizard> exiff, migrate the data, then I would completely remove the home dir, and .Private
[21:25] <IanWizard> and then setup the ecrypt from scratch
[21:25] <leeping__> celestius, I just moved the files in compiz-1 to another place
[21:25] <reapingwildoats> whats the difference between rm and trash?
[21:25] <IanWizard> it's not hard, but I've NEVER done it, so I can't really help there.
[21:25] <leeping__> reapingwildoats, the former removes the files forever
[21:25] <leeping__> Maybe I'll log out and back in, and see what that did
[21:25] <celestius> ok
[21:25] <reapingwildoats> oh i see thanks
[21:25] <celestius> you might also want to check out http://askubuntu.com/questions/72366/how-can-i-restore-the-unity-launcher
[21:26] <celestius> i googled around for "restoring your unity panel"
[21:26] <celestius> no quotes
[21:26] <exiff> IanWizard, Double restart didn't change anything
[21:27] <exiff> The encrypt was made from installation
[21:27] <IanWizard> exiff, I would take everything in /home/nova  (and any other encrypted /home dirs), and put it on a flash drive
[21:27] <celestius> reapingwildoats: stuff deleted with 'rm' can still be restored if you catch it quickly. it tells the filesystem to mark those parts of the storage space as available, so the data will still be there until its space is actually needed and overwritten (unless you're running a super secure system that blanks the storage immediately, but those are rare)
[21:27] <IanWizard> then wipe out the /home/.ecrypt
[21:27] <celestius> it's a lot easier to just use the trash, though
[21:27] <celestius> i've never restored stuff rm'd, i just understand that it's possible
[21:27] <IanWizard> make sure that you don't accidentally get /home/nova/.Private though, or you'll be copying that whole 32gb
[21:28] <leeping__> celestius, you're not gonna believe this, i hit suspend instead of log out by accident, and then i couldn't resume, so i rebooted :P
[21:28] <celestius> ha
[21:28] <celestius> did it fix it? :D
[21:28] <leeping__> no big deal
[21:28] <leeping__> It did fix it. :D
[21:28] <celestius> nice :D
[21:28] <exiff> IanWizard,roger.
[21:28] <leeping__> thanks!
[21:28] <leeping__> :D
[21:28] <celestius> np!
[21:29] <leeping__> now i have to restart my computations :P
[21:29] <celestius> check if you can read your email tho
[21:29] <emr> hello, i have problem on my python (libmemcached) getting RuntimeError: pylibmc requires >= libmemcached 0.32, was compiled with 0.31
[21:29] <celestius> :(
[21:29] <leeping__> Good idea
[21:29] <leeping__> no biggie
[21:29] <celestius> ok
[21:29] <leeping__> i had a few thousand, and the ones that finished have sent their data back
[21:29] <celestius> what are you computing, if you don't mind my asking?
[21:29] <leeping__> celestius, email still doesn't work.
[21:29] <celestius> ok
[21:29] <leeping__> it's quantum chemistry stuff
[21:29] <leeping__> like the potential energy of molecules :)
[21:29] <celestius> that's probably something specific to evolution
[21:29] <exiff> It's a bit worrying for such a problem to come up... i cant be the first one with it, can i?  And lucid has been around for years now
[21:29] <leeping__> Yeah
[21:30] <celestius> nice. you're not raj bhatnagar, are you? :D
[21:30] <leeping__> I have a meeting to run to soon, so i'll have to leave this for later
[21:30] <celestius> ok
[21:30] <leeping__> haha, nope , but good guess :D
[21:30] <celestius> you might give thunderbird a whirl
[21:30] <celestius> it's nice, i like it better than evolution personally
[21:30] <IanWizard> ahh thunderbird
[21:30] <tiago> my system is stuck on a grub menu and keeps going there no matter what version of ubuntu I select, i think it might be a crc error (it says so when I boot with xen), what can I do?
[21:31] <exiff> Thanks IanWizard. :)
[21:32] <IanWizard> exiff, good luck :)
[21:32] <leeping__> celestius, yeah, Thunderbird is nice. :) I don't remember why i didn't switch over complete
[21:32] <leeping__> err completely
[21:32] <leeping__> have to run to my meeting now :) see ya
[21:32] <celestius> its enterprise support is worse i think
[21:32] <celestius> ok
[21:32] <celestius> cya!
[21:32] <exiff> So it begins... the great data exodus... ive named the copy folder "exile".. a bit dramatic but...
[21:33] <exiff> Thanks again.
[21:33] <celestius> IanWizard is tbird not your fav? i'm always interested in hearing about alternatives
[21:35] <AMS-ITGuy> Hey everyone - anyone here have experience with PPTP VPNs on the client side using Ubuntu 11.10?
[21:35] <IanWizard> celestius, for desktop, yes
[21:35] <IanWizard> evolution is good, but syncing had issues last time I used it
[21:35] <IanWizard> I just use Gmail
[21:35] <IanWizard> in chrome
[21:35] <IanWizard> :)
[21:35] <celestius> ah yeah :)
[21:35] <jskelington> is there a way to disable a single key on my keyboard?
[21:36] <Tiktalik> Hey so..I need help doing the stuff on this thing
[21:36] <Tiktalik> http://pastebin.com/LQTScvhx
[21:36] <AMS-ITGuy> Hey everyone - anyone here have experience with PPTP VPNs on the client side using Ubuntu 11.10?
[21:36] <Tiktalik> I'm trying to compile some wireless drivers for my dad's laptop
[21:37] <jskelington> I found something
[21:37] <jskelington> one sec
[21:37] <Tiktalik> also, wireless drivers are hell. ye innocent, RUN WHILE YOU STILL CAN
[21:38] <AMS-ITGuy> Tiktalike - what wifi card are you having problems with?
[21:38] <AMS-ITGuy> Hey everyone - anyone here have experience with PPTP VPNs on the client side using Ubuntu 11.10?
[21:38] <AMS-ITGuy> Anyone here have experience with PPTP VPNs on the client side using Ubuntu 11.10?
[21:39] <Russian> hey guys anyone has OCZ vertex 3 MI or Patriot wildfire 120gb?
[21:39] <beefman> drupal
[21:39] <SmashingX|2> hello guys when I try to run xampp on my ubuntu it says this: Another web server daemon is already running. So, how can I know where is it running?
[21:40] <Russian> I am trying to figure out what would be a better choice, OCZ Vertex 3 MI  120GB or Patriot Wildfire 120GB, anyone any suggestions?
[21:40] <Tiktalik> AMS-ITGuy, it's an ASUS USB-N13 wifi dongle
[21:40] <celestius> SmashingX|2: netstat is where you'd start, but i'm not an expert at it. you could also try connecting to http://localhost:80/ and seeing what comes up
[21:41] <AMS-ITGuy> My business partner bought an OCZ 120GB just recently, and he's pleased with it
[21:41] <celestius> you probably have to specify a port to xampp
[21:41] <celestius> check the invocation options, it's usually -p
[21:41] <AMS-ITGuy> Tiktalik - any idea on the chipset?  sometimes you can get a binary to load for wifi capabilities
[21:41] <SmashingX|2> This is the default web page for this server.
[21:41] <SmashingX|2> This shit he web server software is running but no content has been added, yet.
[21:41] <AMS-ITGuy> Anyone here have experience with PPTP VPNs on the client side using Ubuntu 11.10?  Need some help with split tunneling.
[21:42] <SmashingX|2> celestius: This is what it says when I run it
[21:42] <celestius> heyo - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1436388
[21:42] <celestius> is that helpful?
[21:42] <Tiktalik> AMS-ITGuy: err, I dunno what you mean.
[21:43] <alexxio> hello
[21:43] <celestius> SmashingX|2:
[21:43] <Tiktalik> also, I AM NOT PAID ENOUGH FOR THIS
[21:43] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: please dont use xampp on GNU/Linux
[21:43] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: use the real apache2 php5 mysql-server instead
[21:43] <SmashingX|2> iceroot: Yeah but whatever that's not the problem
[21:43] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: sure it is
[21:43] <SmashingX|2> I had different problems
[21:44] <SmashingX|2> I want to delete or stop the daemon that is running now
[21:44] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: the main problen is you want to use xampp, that is always wrong
[21:44] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: sudo service apache2 stop
[21:44] <auronandace> !xampp
[21:45] <SmashingX|2> ok whatever, I wanted to install xampp but how do I know which server is installed?
[21:45] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: please dont use xampp, remove it from your system and use the native apache2 php5 mysql-server combination
[21:45] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: we dont support you here with xampp installations
[21:45] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: stop using it please
[21:45] <SmashingX|2> yeah but something is already installed, how do I know what is installeD?
[21:46] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: ask the administrator is the best way
[21:46] <SmashingX|2> ok ok I know I won't use xampp could you help me then?
[21:46] <AMS-ITGuy> Anyone here have experience with PPTP VPNs on the client side using Ubuntu 11.10?  Need some help with split tunnelling.
[21:46] <SmashingX|2> administrator of what?
[21:46] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: and i guess its apache2 waht is running at the moment
[21:46] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: the system
[21:46] <SmashingX|2> it's my computer
[21:46] <SmashingX|2> there is not other person that uses it
[21:46] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: then you should know what webserver you have installed
[21:47] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: ubuntu does not have a webserver by default so you installed one by hand
[21:47] <SmashingX|2> I don't know because I haven't use this computer for long time
[21:47] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: you checked if it is apache2?
[21:47] <SmashingX|2> probably I did, but the question is, how do I know what do I have installed?
[21:47] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: ps aux | grep apache
[21:48] <iceroot> there was also some netstat command which shows what program is using what port but i cant remember the command
[21:48] <Alexxio> aaa
[21:49] <SmashingX|2> root     27987  0.0  0.0   4444   792 pts/0    S+   14:49   0:00 grep --colour=auto apache
[21:50] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: then its not apache what is running
[21:50] <ganiman_> hello
[21:50] <ericus> hello ganiman_
[21:50] <AMS-ITGuy> Anyone here have experience with PPTP VPNs on the client side using Ubuntu 11.10?  Need some help with split tunnelling - works fine on Windows!
[21:50] <SmashingX|2> I did this: sudo service apache2 stop
[21:50] <SmashingX|2> * Stopping web server apache2                                                    * The apache2 configtest failed, so we are trying to kill it manually. This is almost certainly suboptimal, so please make sure your system is working as you'd expect now!  ... waiting .
[21:50] <SmashingX|2> and now localhost doesn't work
[21:51] <SmashingX|2> so I guess is apache2
[21:51] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: dpkg -l apache2
[21:51] <ganiman> I just installed ubuntu 11.10, and during the install I clicked the universal access icon and my mouse cursor got really big.  This carried over into the compelted install, but it seems to only happen when the mouse is over firefox.
[21:51] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: does the line start with "ii"?
[21:51] <ganiman> Does anyonek now how I can disable this oversized mouse cursor?
[21:51] <SmashingX|2> what line?
[21:52] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: dpkg -l apache2
[21:52] <SmashingX|2> ii  apache2        2.2.20-1ubuntu Apache HTTP Server metapackage
[21:52] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: ok, its apache2
[21:52] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: ii means installed
[21:52] <SmashingX|2> oh ok
[21:52] <rata> I'm trying to use Ubuntu on Amazon EC2. I followed the link on: http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/server/oneiric/current/ and created a "us-east-1 32-bit ebs ami-7123f218" and as the ec2 command says, I selected "t1.micro" on the wizard, and it is started okay. But I cannot connect, using the command the web management gives me (using the key pair and that stuff). The checks are also performed okay. Is there something I need to do to be able to connect
[21:52] <rata>  via ssh ?
[21:52] <SmashingX|2> so I wonder what did I install because mysql is also installed
[21:53] <SmashingX|2> if I didn't install xampp
[21:53] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: lamp
[21:53] <SmashingX|2> isn't the same?
[21:53] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: no
[21:53] <SmashingX|2> xampp new version of lamp?
[21:53] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: xampp is evil like hell, lamp is good
[21:53] <SmashingX|2> oh I thought I read that
[21:53] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: xampp is something for windows-"administrators"
[21:53] <SmashingX|2> oh ok
[21:54] <AMS-ITGuy> Anyone here have experience with PPTP VPNs on the client side using Ubuntu 11.10?  Need some help with split tunnelling.
[21:54] <SmashingX|2> how can I be sure that I installed lamp?
[21:54] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: xampp is a distribution of apache2 php mysql a mailserver phpmyadmin and so on
[21:54] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: dpkg -l php5
[21:54] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: dpkg -l mysql-server
[21:54] <Oer> iceroot, sudo netstat -nlp; rpcinfo -p host
[21:54] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: if all is starting with "ii" you have lamp
[21:54] <iceroot> Oer: thanks
[21:54] <SmashingX|2> ok
[21:55] <SmashingX|2> I just uninstalled mysql server :(
[21:55] <SmashingX|2> bad bad bad
[21:55] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[21:55] <SmashingX|2> is that going to get the lastest version?
[21:55] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: the latest from the repos
[21:56] <SmashingX|2> ok, so to get the lastest available?
[21:56] <SmashingX|2> Do i have to get it from the webpage
[21:56] <OrangeTux> yes
[21:56] <SmashingX|2> dang
[21:56] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: dont do that
[21:56] <OrangeTux> why not?
[21:56] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: please only use software from the repos
[21:56] <SmashingX|2> what if my repos are outdated?
[21:57] <OrangeTux> sudo apt-get update
[21:57] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: everything else is a big security issue because you dont get secureity updates automatcly
[21:57] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: and normally you dont need the latest version
[21:57] <SmashingX|2> and then after the update I reinstall mysql to get the latest from the repos?
[21:57] <OrangeTux> iceroot: its that such a big issue as you say that it is?
[21:57] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[21:57] <iceroot> OrangeTux: of course
[21:58] <iceroot> OrangeTux: especially for components of a webserver like apache php mysql
[21:58] <OrangeTux> oke, i understand
[21:58] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: what ubuntu-version are you using? "cat /etc/issue" to find out
[21:58] <SmashingX|2> don't get mad at me but I heard that ubuntu is very unstable anyway
[21:58] <SmashingX|2> hehe
[21:58] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: it is compared to debian
[21:58] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: as a server-os
[21:58] <SmashingX|2> right compared to debian
[21:59] <ericus> what's the command to open the startup applications?
[21:59] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: but that is not because ubuntu-devs are bad or they do a bad job its because ubuntu comes with newer software then debian which is not tested that long
[21:59] <ericus> it has disappeared from my menu
[22:00] <SmashingX|2> well I guess it still helps that ubuntu has so many more users that debian
[22:00] <SmashingX|2> and many users mean more testers
[22:01] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: users are only "helpfull" when they are reporting issues :)
[22:01] <SmashingX|2> that's also true
[22:01] <iceroot> !bug | SmashingX|2 :)
[22:01] <SmashingX|2> but more testers mean more possibilities to have more users reporting bugs
[22:01] <AMS-ITGuy> seriously, no one uses PPTP here? lol
[22:01] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: correct
[22:02] <ChromeVanadium> bong sang...
[22:02] <iceroot> !vpn | AMS-ITGuy
[22:02] <ChromeVanadium> je pensais que c'était un tchat francophone...
[22:02] <SmashingX|2> so iceroot, with lamp I don't have phpmyadmin?
[22:02] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[22:03] <tiago> how can i solve a crc error?
[22:03] <ChromeVanadium> mais il n'en est rien...
[22:03] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: "lamp" is not a single package like xampp is
[22:03] <SmashingX|2> ohhh that's what I just realized
[22:03] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: lamp just means "linux apache mysql php"
[22:03] <iceroot> !fr | ChromeVanadium
[22:03] <iceroot> tiago: redownloading the file normally
[22:03] <SmashingX|2> I see
[22:04] <tiago> iceroot: it's a crc error when i try to boot, i keep being sent to grub menu and can't load any of the ubuntu versions
[22:04] <SmashingX|2> hey iceroot, thanks for the help just 1 more question
[22:04] <SmashingX|2> when I installed mysql it didn't asked me for a root password
[22:05] <SmashingX|2> is there any way to configure that?
[22:05] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: have a look if there is a file /etc/mysql/my.secret or something like that
[22:05] <iceroot> tiago: uh that sound bad, sorry i dont know how to fix that
[22:05] <SmashingX|2> my.conf?
[22:06] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: no
[22:06] <SmashingX|2> my.cnf?
[22:06] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: you already installed mysql and setup a password
[22:06] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: so you are not asked for a new password at installation because the old password is still active
[22:06] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: no not my.cnf sometimes there is a password file in there where you can see the password
[22:06] <SmashingX|2> iceroot: it seems like there's no password because I type mysql on the terminal and I can get into mysql
[22:06] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: ah ok
[22:07] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: its a good idea to set a password now
[22:07] <SmashingX|2> the question is how
[22:07] <SmashingX|2> lol
[22:07] <Follow83> ciao
[22:07] <Follow83> !list
[22:07] <benbloom_> I'm having problems reading my email with thunderbird 9 on Kubuntu 64b 11.10. I think the new update caused problems and I can't figure out how to fix them. I've tried a apt-get purge and install after backing up and deleting ~/.thunderbird but the problem persists. http://www.flickr.com/photos/53743399@N02/6831454429/ if you look at the left side there's no column with mail. when i click "read mail" nothing appears. however, if i
[22:07] <benbloom_> search for specific messages, they show up, so i know my profile is loaded correctly. Please help! this is seriously impacting my ability to work!
[22:07] <FloodBot1> benbloom_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:09] <benbloom_> really? that was a flood? just trying to !ask and include the necessary details
[22:09] <bus3rr0r> thats what pastebin is for
[22:10] <AMS-ITGuy> Anyone here have experience with PPTP VPNs on the client side using Ubuntu 11.10?  Need some help with split tunnelling.
[22:11] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: mysql -u root
[22:11] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: SET PASSWORD FOR ''@'localhost' = PASSWORD('newpwd');
[22:11] <benbloom_> hmm. I know pastebin is for large threads of info. i'm just surprised my question constituted a large thread
[22:11] <pivetta> hi guys, i've got a problem with screen dimming, I'm trying to run a game, but while playing (due the large use of the resources i guess) the screen dims, i can't find out where to deactivate this diming not from the compiz panel and not from the the screen settings (there is only for power saving). what to do on ubuntu 11.10 (unity)?
[22:12] <SmashingX|2> iceroot: Thanks I got a faster way to do that mysqladmin -u root password NEWPASSWORD
[22:12] <tiago> whenever i choose i any ubuntu version in grub menu it loads a black screen and sends me back again, what could be wrong?
[22:13] <pivetta> (oh, idea i give a try on unity2d, wont bother again sorry)
[22:13] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: congratulation :) now your root-password from the database is stored in the history :)
[22:13] <AMS-ITGuy> tiago - what drive/partition did you load grub on?  If you boot off of a liveCD are the disks readable?
[22:14] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: history | grep mysqladmin :)
[22:15] <SmashingX|2> cool iceroot: but now my apache server doesn't want to start
[22:15] <SmashingX|2> should I do sudo service apache2 start
[22:15] <tiago> AMS-ITGuy: i don't have any liveCDs with me. when I got home the system was frozen so I restarted and now it keeps showing me the grub menu, before it would just load without asking anything. I think the grub is on its own partition but I'm not sure.
[22:16] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: yes
[22:16] <SmashingX|2> I think it got screwed
[22:17] <AMS-ITGuy> tiago - what version of ubuntu are you running?  If your system was frozen, it could indicate a hardware malfunction of some type
[22:17] <SmashingX|2> maybe I should reinstall it
[22:18] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: reinstall does not work on GNU/Linux like it os (maybe sometimes) working on windows
[22:18] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: see /var/log/apache2/error.log
[22:18] <tiago> AMS-ITGuy: 11.10. I have the option to load xen as well, and if i do it says i have a crc error
[22:18] <tiago> how should i proceed?
[22:18] <SmashingX|2> iceroot: apache2: Syntax error on line 227 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/conf.d/bugzilla3.conf: No such file or directory Action 'start' failed.
[22:20] <AMS-ITGuy> tiago - sounds like something is screwy with the hard drive - do you have an ubuntu disc at all?  You can try recovery mode
[22:20] <AMS-ITGuy> Anyone here have experience with PPTP VPNs on the client side using Ubuntu 11.10?  Need some help with split tunnelling.
[22:20] <tiago> hum i'll try to get one AMS-ITGuy, should i be worried about loosing data? is back-up a must?
[22:21] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: if you are not hosting that bugzilla anymore just remove that line from the config (or put a # before the line)
[22:21] <AMS-ITGuy> tiago - backups are always a must :)
[22:21] <SmashingX|2> iceroot: that line says: Include conf.d/
[22:21] <SmashingX|2> iceroot: isn't that important?
[22:22] <AMS-ITGuy> tiago - if you have some type of live cd it will let you know if the data is readable - and give you the ability to take a copy to verify the integrity
[22:22] <jeremiah_> What is the best, most user friendly, most compatible, easiest to use linux?
[22:22] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: is therw a file called /etc/apache2/conf.d/bugzilla3.conf?
[22:22] <iceroot> jeremiah_: the one you like most
[22:22] <SmashingX|2> let me check
[22:22] <iceroot> !best | jeremiah_
[22:23] <SmashingX|2> iceroot: no, there's not such a file
 well I mean the easiest to use and install things on.
[22:24] <iceroot> jeremiah_: the one you like most
[22:24] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: but your apache config is refering to that file
[22:24] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: so please have a look at your config
[22:24] <SmashingX|2> I guess is that because I uninstalled bugzilla
[22:24] <SmashingX|2> so that file got deleted
 lets say "the best for a resent windows user and does not know much of linux-type?"
[22:25] <[deXter]> jeremiah_, seriously, join #ubuntu-bots, and ask in there. :)
 ok whatever.
[22:26] <iceroot> jeremiah_: maye ubuntu, maybe opensuse, maybe fedora. i dont know everyone is prefering something different
[22:27] <benbloom_> I'm having problems reading my email with thunderbird 9 on Kubuntu 64b 11.10. I think the new update caused problems and I can't figure out how to fix them. I've tried a apt-get purge and install after backing up and deleting ~/.thunderbird but the problem persists. http://www.flickr.com/photos/53743399@N02/6831454429/ if you look at the left side there's no column with mail. when i click "read mail" nothing appears. however, if i
[22:27] <benbloom_> search for specific messages, they show up, so i know my profile is loaded correctly. Please help!
[22:27] <FloodBot1> benbloom_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:27] <SmashingX|2> it this line important in the apache conf fiel?: Include conf.d/
[22:27] <benbloom_> oops. but i really do need help with this. it'
[22:28] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: yes
[22:28] <benbloom_> s making work impossible
[22:29] <SmashingX|2> iceroot: do you know what can I do to tell apache to stop looking for that file?
[22:29] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: grep through that file if there is the bugzilla file names
[22:29] <SmashingX|2> ok
[22:31] <SmashingX|2> jeremiah_: btw I think distrowatch.com could show you the advantages and disadvantages of every distro and also it provides screenshots of many distros so you may wanna check that out
[22:31] <benbloom_> can someone at least tell me how to revert to a previous build of thunderbird using apt? I read about pinning, but I'm not seeing how to go back
[22:31] <iceroot> benbloom_: not possible
[22:31] <iceroot> benbloom_: pinning is for something different then downgrading
[22:32] <iceroot> benbloom_: pinning is for "not upgrading"
[22:32] <benbloom_> oh. iceroot. so what do i do?  apt remove thunderbird9 and try to find a deb of an earlier build?
[22:32] <iceroot> benbloom_: correct
[22:33] <SmashingX|2> dang, I look for bugzilla word in the conf file but nothing
[22:34] <benbloom_> k. should I try finding and reinstalling all the libraries that tbird uses before I do thiat? I've tried a purge and reinstall but it doesnt help. neither does using tbird in safe mode
[22:34] <AMS-ITGuy> benbloom_ are you sure it isn't just minimized?  not being sarcasitic here, but I had a TB window onetime that looked like it was missing, but when I dragged the window column it reappeared
[22:34] <benbloom_> I have the column it's just empty
[22:35] <benbloom_> AMS-ITGuy, http://www.flickr.com/photos/53743399@N02/6831454429/
[22:35] <AMS-ITGuy> i had the column too, it looked empty, until I dragged from the left portion of the window and it quite literally reappeared
[22:35] <AMS-ITGuy> I saw the link, it's very similar to what I had
[22:35] <benbloom_> so that's what i'd been thinking, but i've tried dragging every part of it. to no avail.
[22:36] <AMS-ITGuy> only thing I could suggest is exporting your mail and making a new profile and importing again... a pain, yes.... I stopped using TB because of weird stuff like this
[22:36] <benbloom_> also, wouldn't "reset toolbars and controls" option from safe mode fix this problem?
[22:37] <craigbass1976> how safe am I getting 12.04 for a new server?  It won't be a production box for months, but I didnt' want to get 11.10 and have to upgrade.
[22:37] <benbloom_> new profile has the same issue i think. unless theres some
[22:37] <SnakesAndStuff> Hello.
[22:37] <benbloom_> feature i'm missing
[22:37] <AMS-ITGuy> 12.04 isn't too bad, but I wouldn't put it on a server yet
[22:37] <Oer> craigbass1976, it is not safe yet.
[22:37] <SnakesAndStuff> Under 11.10 I am now crashing (complete lock up) when I insert a USB device for the second time.
[22:37] <SnakesAndStuff> The first time everything is okay.
[22:37] <SnakesAndStuff> The second time, system freeze.
[22:37] <SnakesAndStuff> Where should I file a bug report, and how do I roll back to an older version?
[22:38] <craigbass1976> AMS-ITGuy, what'd I miss about TB?  I use TB and am interested in whatever someone is having trouble with.  I just got here.
[22:38] <mrmowgli> anyone have a guide for installing an older version of GCC?  I installed 4.5 but it didn't install or create links for g++-4.5 :(
[22:38] <craigbass1976> Oer, not safe as in worse than using Windows, or just not as safe as using ubuntu normally?
[22:38] <Oer> craigbass1976, usually server-admins wait for 12.04.1
[22:39] <AMS-ITGuy> craigbass1976 - benbloom has a window that is not listing folders.
[22:39] <iceroot> craigbass1976: using 12.04 as a server is one of the badest ideas i have read here today :)
[22:39] <SmashingX|2> #apache: Cannot join channel (+b) - you are banned
[22:39] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: #freenode
[22:39] <craigbass1976> iceroot, it wouldn't be a real server until next winter
[22:39] <SmashingX|2> I've never been in that channel
[22:39] <kingnebex> wts up good people of the ubuntu world?.............
[22:40] <AMS-ITGuy> craigbass1976, the server build of 12.04 is just that, for development, if the server isn't going into commission try it out... if it was me, I'd use 10.04 until the first point upgrade on 12.04
[22:40] <iceroot> craigbass1976: only use 12.04 if you want to help testing
[22:40] <wsirc_8374852> Hi, I am migrating from fedora to ubuntu. JBWillia usually has updated Fedora livecd images on his site for fedora here: http://jbwillia.fedorapeople.org/ Is there a similar repository for updated ubuntu livecds?
[22:40] <wsirc_8374852> Hi, I am migrating from fedora to ubuntu. JBWillia usually has updated Fedora livecd images on his site for fedora here: http://jbwillia.fedorapeople.org/ Is there a similar repository for updated ubuntu livecds?
[22:40] <benbloom_> craigbass1976, I'm having problems reading my email with thunderbird 9 on Kubuntu 64b 11.10. I think the new update caused problems and I can't figure out how to fix them. I've tried a apt-get purge and install after backing up and deleting ~/.thunderbird but the problem persists. http://www.flickr.com/photos/53743399@N02/6831454429/ if you look at the left side there's no column with mail.
[22:40] <benbloom_> craigbass1976,  when i click "read mail" nothing appears. however, if i search for specific messages, they show up, so i know my profile is loaded correctly.
[22:41] <totesmuhgoats> wsirc_8374852: do you mean you want images that include updates to the packages?
[22:41] <totesmuhgoats> oh, i guess he's gone
[22:41] <AMS-ITGuy> Anyone here have experience with PPTP VPNs on the client side using Ubuntu 11.10?  Need some help with split tunnelling.
[22:41] <wsirc_8374852> Hi, I am migrating from fedora to ubuntu. JBWillia usually has updated Fedora livecd images on his site for fedora here: http://jbwillia.fedorapeople.org/ Is there a similar repository for updated ubuntu livecds?
[22:41] <wsirc_8374852> Hi, I am migrating from fedora to ubuntu. JBWillia usually has updated Fedora livecd images on his site for fedora here: http://jbwillia.fedorapeople.org/ Is there a similar repository for updated ubuntu livecds?
[22:41] <iceroot> !repeat | wsirc_8374852
[22:41] <Oer> wsirc_8374852, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20120206/
[22:42] <craigbass1976> benbloom_, I dont'  know what anyone else has told you...  Has it got anything to do with pop vs imap?
[22:42] <leeping__> Hi there, there's something wrong with Evolution - when I click on my emails, it doesn't display the message in the preview pane.  I want to delete Evolution's temporary files, but I don't know where they are..
[22:42] <iceroot> Oer: wsirc_8374852 that live-cd is for a alpha-release
[22:42] <totesmuhgoats> leeping__: to view "hidden" files in linux, type ls -la in the terminal
[22:42] <totesmuhgoats> leeping__: the hidden files are prefixed with a .
[22:43] <craigbass1976> benbloom_, pop started getting funky I thought around tbird 3-ish.  This iwas around when I started using IMAP anyway, so I didn't care
[22:43] <totesmuhgoats> try looking for something like .evolution, you might also look inside folders like ~/.config ~/.gnome ~/.gconf
[22:43] <benbloom_> craigbass1976, no i have 7 emails some pop some imap. they all used to appear in the left column along with trash and archives and other stuff. now that column is empty
[22:44] <benbloom_> the only wat to view emails is to search for them specifically
[22:44] <craigbass1976> benbloom_, are you running any addons?
[22:45] <AMS-ITGuy> Anyone here have experience with PPTP VPNs on the client side using Ubuntu 11.10?  Need some help with split tunnelling - works in Windows just fine.
[22:45] <benbloom_> nope. not that i recall. and i used the thunderbird 'safe mode' to deactivate all addons and reset window and view settings
[22:46] <craigbass1976> have you tried #thunderbird on irc.mozilla.org (or net maybe) ?
[22:47] <leeping__> totesmuhgoats, i know, but there are lots of those temporary files and folders in ~. :)
[22:47] <AMS-ITGuy> benbloom it's cuz those KDE guys want you to use KMail ;)
[22:47] <imafricanbro> hi guys
[22:47] <AMS-ITGuy> Anyone here have experience with PPTP VPNs on the client side using Ubuntu 11.10?  Need some help with split tunnelling - works in Windows just fine.
[22:47] <kingnebex> hey guys ....is ubuntu capable of being attacked by viruses?
[22:48] <totesmuhgoats> leeping__: there shouldn't be temporary folders, that stuff will go to /tmp
[22:48] <totesmuhgoats> those are all config folders
[22:48] <totesmuhgoats> leeping__: you can also try the find command
[22:48] <totesmuhgoats> man find
[22:48] <AMS-ITGuy> kingnebex anything can be attacked by a virus, but Ubuntu is pretty safe
[22:48] <imafricanbro> Did microsoft develop windows? or just ms-dos? cause i've never heard of windows untill now, any one knows?
[22:48] <benbloom_> i have craigbass1976 no response whatsoever. and AMS-ITGuy I am beginning to wonder if that's true. seems pretty antithetical to the whole linux concept though
[22:48] <totesmuhgoats> kingnebex: yes
[22:49] <imafricanbro> Is windows good compared to Debian?
[22:49] <Oer> imafricanbro, ask in #windows, please.
[22:49] <kingnebex> so AMS are there antivirses for ubuntu?
[22:49] <[deXter]> kingnebex, Yes.
[22:49] <craigbass1976> benbloom_, if ou set up a new account, does that show up?
[22:49] <AMS-ITGuy> benbloom - sorry,  i know how frustrating it is - but like I said, I gave up on TB awhile ago just because of the weird stuff it does
[22:50] <AMS-ITGuy> craigbass - I asked him the same lol create a new profile and import, apparently same issue
[22:50] <[deXter]> TB?
[22:50] <kingnebex> are they free?
[22:50] <microbe> Hi there :) I would like to know if someone know a good procedure to chroot user for SFTP use ?
[22:50] <[deXter]> kingnebex, Some are
[22:50] <benbloom_> sasame problems craigbass1976new account or not. even after completely purging and reinstalling
[22:51] <AMS-ITGuy> TB = thunderbird
[22:51] <craigbass1976> AMS-ITGuy, benbloom_, no I mean withing the profiles he's got now.  Name it something else, but have it check one of thed accounts he's already doing.
[22:52] <daysahead5> how do i set a file to be in multiple groups chgrp group1 text.txt but how do i add multiple groups not just one?
[22:54] <AMS-ITGuy> daysahead5 - you make another group with the users you want in it
[22:55] <daysahead5> oooh
[22:55] <daysahead5> i'm not sure i follow
[22:55] <benbloom_> i'm confused craigbass1976 what are you suggesting?
[22:56] <doomviking> welcome to the limits of POSIX permissions
[22:56] <AMS-ITGuy> daysahead5 if you have group1 with jon, sally and bob in it, and group2 with jon, sally and sam in it, and you want jon sam and bob to have access to the file, you make a new group; group3
[22:57] <AMS-ITGuy> daysahead5 - you can belong to more than one group as a user
[22:57] <doomviking> but a file/directory cannot be associated with more than one group
[22:57] <doomviking> which is what daysahead5 is asking
[22:58] <AMS-ITGuy> doomviking - which I eluded to in my first message.... you can't have more than one group, you create another group with the respective users
[22:59] <craigbass1976> benbloom_, in your existing thunderbird instance, add a new account.  Set it up to check an email acount that you're already checking, but give it a different name (joebob2 or something)
[22:59] <levitsky> hi guys, i want to get owned
[23:00] <doomviking> daysahead5: what AMS-ITGuy said
[23:00] <doomviking> sorry for the confusion.
[23:01] <AMS-ITGuy> doomviking, no worries - of course, there are other ways to control security, daysahead5 how are you sharing the file?  Via SSH only, or SMB, NFS?
[23:02] <AMS-ITGuy> ok, so who wants to help me with my VPN issue? :D
[23:03] <OrangeTux> is there a program where I can stack multiple copy actions (ctrl+ v)
[23:03] <kaspi> Guys, any input from my mouse crashes my X, after the last kernel update... Anybody experiencing this?
[23:04] <AMS-ITGuy> kaspi, not happening here, what version?
[23:04] <kaspi> AMX-ITGuy: the version of kernel you mean?
[23:05] <AMS-ITGuy> kaspi, kernel and version of Ubuntu
[23:06] <kaspi> AMS-ITGuy: 3.0.0-15 generic (?) and 11.10
[23:07] <skwird> Yikes just looked at the logs for this channel and my ridiculous client actually sent my one question four times!
[23:07] <AMS-ITGuy> kaspi, anything special about your mouse?  tried a different usb port?
[23:07] <kaspi> AMS-ITGuy: I also have the log opened saying SIGSEGV, but I'm afraid I can't paste it :/
[23:07] <skwird> I apologize for seeming rude!
[23:07] <skwird> I totally did not intend to sound impatient.
[23:07] <kaspi> AMS-ITGuy: tried both different ports and mice
[23:07] <skwird> I am on xchat now and thankfully able to communicate in a sane way
[23:08] <gabriel_> hello guys.i'm trying to install ubuntu to my old laptop.this laptop doesnt have cd drive and cant boot up from usb.so i use another computer to install the os in the drive i gonna use in my old laptop.
[23:09] <AMS-ITGuy> kaspi, what desktop env?
[23:09] <skwird> Oer, thanks for pointing me to the live-cd for the alpha release but I am looking for the live-cd with updates of the current stable version. totesmuhgoats, yes, I do mean images that include updates to all the packages and whatever updates are current for the kernel
[23:09] <gabriel_> in the start up i'm getting a lot of cannot create this and that because is a read-only file system
[23:09] <metasansana> is there a danger in bridging?
[23:10] <metasansana> besides sniffing and all?
[23:10] <kaspi> AMS-ITGuy: a weird, strange, mixed up env from Gnome, Unity, KDE, Xfce and LXDM :D
[23:11] <kaspi> AMS-ITGuy: using LXDM mainly, but it's sometimes showing all together :/
[23:11] <AMS-ITGuy> kaspi, ah, so a "standard" env? lol - if you try something more generic without 3d acceleration (gnome 2, unity 2d, etc) does the issue still occur?
[23:11] <metasansana> like eth0 br0
[23:11] <kaspi> AMS-ITGuy: yep, tried unity 2D, still happening
[23:11] <Oer> skwird http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/oneiric/current/
[23:12] <AMS-ITGuy> kaspi, tried a liveCD to see if the issue is still there?
[23:12] <AMS-ITGuy> kaspi, maybe something else is going on?
[23:12] <skwird> Oer, thank you very much. Are those the stable ones?
[23:13] <kaspi> AMS-ITGuy: can't boot it :/ my computer is somehow weird that it can't a live linux... it just boots to the install/try/... menu and when selecting an option, it freezes and never comes out
[23:13] <kaspi> AMS-ITGuy: I already wanted to replace the whole system with a clean install, but couldn't find a way yet
[23:13] <sKew^_-> hi,
[23:14] <Oer> skwird, sorry wrong link again ( cloud image), i cant find oneiric daily
[23:14] <AMS-ITGuy> kaspi, sorry, no idea.... I always fall back to a default LiveCD to test changes.
[23:14] <AMS-ITGuy> kaspi, and updates
[23:14] <sKew^_-> how does install ubuntu 11.10 aslong whit win7 work is it on the same partition or?
[23:15] <kaspi> sKew^_-: ubuntu usually creates it's own partition
[23:15] <lion42> sKew^_-, generally yes, you can create a new partition for linux to be on with the free space in your windows partition.
[23:15] <Oer> skwird, somehowe oneiric daily is gone
[23:16] <kaspi> AMS-ITGuy: no problem, thanks for your time
[23:16] <lion42> sKew^_-, usually this does not require any tinkering on your part, the installer just asks you how big you want ubuntu's space to be.
[23:16] <skwird> Oer,  so ubuntu used to have an updated image?
[23:16] <AMS-ITGuy> kaspi, any chance you have a ps/2 mouse and port on that box?
[23:16] <Oer> skwird,  yes, daily build
[23:16] <StepNjump> I get this error message when upgrading: The package 'brhl2170wlpr' is in an inconsistent state and needs to be reinstalled, but no archive can be found for it. Do you want to remove this package now to continue?
[23:16] <skwird> I know that in fedora those images are not really "official" but they are really convenient
[23:16] <StepNjump> .
[23:16] <kaspi> AMS-ITGuy: nope :/ only USB ones
[23:17] <sKew^_-> hmm kk, so it makes 2 difrent partition afther it? it dont install te files on NTFS right?
[23:17] <skwird> ah, thanks. I will search for that term
[23:17] <kaspi> AMS-ITGuy: is it possible to just reinstall X? :) using the apt?
[23:17] <benbloom_> ok craigbass1976 so that actually worked. now the problem is i have years worth of emails in the old ~/.thunderbolt folder that I need to import. actually, if i have to do that, I'm probably done with thunderbolt
[23:17] <skwird> all distro have a unique way of calling those images
[23:17] <sKew^_-> cuz i created one 100gb for windows and got 120gb free before i chose aslong win7 so i think i got 120gb free space now :/
[23:18] <SmashingX> how can I delete a symlink
[23:18] <skwird> Hmmm
[23:18] <StepNjump> I just installed my printer. Everything works fine except when I run the update manager
[23:18] <skwird> precise pangolin's daily build comes up in every search
[23:18] <skwird> but not the oneiric
[23:18] <skwird> you are right.
[23:19] <craigbass1976> benbloom_, bolt or bird?
[23:19] <skwird> I hate downloading 300megs of updates after the install. :(
[23:19] <benbloom_> lol bird. i also have  a thunderbolt
[23:19] <AMS-ITGuy> kaspi, i'm sure it's possible, but I can't say I have the foggiest idea on how to do it.  You'd have to remove all of the X.org packages and delete all your configuration files
[23:20] <skwird> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[23:20] <kjaer> SmashingX, rm thesymlink
[23:20] <kjaer> its just a file
[23:20] <sKew^_-> kaspi, lion42 , "aslongside" can i accsess data i got on ubuntu from win7?
[23:20] <craigbass1976> benbloom_, I'm guessing bird.  Thunderbolt is a phone...  What if, now that you've got an account set up (the imaps should go fine, just pops will give you trouble) can you just copy stuff over in bash while Thunderbird is not running?  After you've created the new account though
[23:20] <kaspi> AMS-ITGuy: yeah :/ god give me a clean install
[23:20] <SmashingX> thanks kjaer
[23:21] <skwird> Are there any differences b/w precise pangolin and the current oneiric?
[23:21] <kjaer> SmashingX, just dont use -R if it is a link to a directory
[23:21] <SmashingX> ok
[23:21] <skwird> or do you all think precise pangolin is just as fine?
[23:21] <kjaer> sKew^_-, depends on the filesystem
[23:21] <kaspi> sKew^_-: only with a specific driver afaik, because win can't read linux's filesystem by defult... ubuntu can read win's filesystem by default though
[23:21] <lion42> sKew^_-, yes and no. AFAIK, you need to use a special program to access your ubuntu partition from windows, because windows can't read the filesystem. But you should be able to access your windows files from ubuntu just fine.
[23:21] <skwird> I mean in Fedora F16 is far worse compared to F15. It is wwwwwaay unstable - hence the reason for switching
[23:22] <lion42> If you windows or ubuntu are encrypted, though, you wont be able to. (or at least not easily.)
[23:22] <SmashingX> iceroot: I installed phpmyadmin but now how can I start using it?
[23:22] <kaspi> sKew^_-: so you can transfer files between the systems using ubuntu, but to use win for that, you'd have to add specific software
[23:23] <benbloom_> right craigbass1976 I think it's time for me to find a new email program that's not going to break. this is  not the first time i've had to do this, which makes me think it wont be the last. I'm looking for a new email program. perhaps one that uses a more straightforward way of organizing pop mail (I keep all my correspondence for ever, but don't like wasting paper
[23:23] <sKew^_-> lion42, kaspi , kjaer  okok thx, i think i messed the install up so iam gonna install ubuntu one more time, seens i created the 120gb (non format) partition dident get used
[23:24] <kjaer> sKew^_-, I use the ext2fsd on windows 7, works like a charm
[23:24] <sKew^_-> kaspi, thanx, then i can download in ubuntu and copy files over to win7 :)
[23:24] <kaspi> benbloom_: how about gmail? you can redirect all mail there, I've been using it for years :)
[23:24] <kaspi> sKew^_-: correct
[23:24] <AMS-ITGuy> who wants to help me with my VPN issue? :D
[23:24] <kjaer> sKew^_-, you can resize partitions?
[23:24] <lion42> sKew^_-, you shouldn't need to manually create partitions with the regular installer. If you have a bunch of free space, the easiest way I can think of getting it back into your windows partition so you can run a simple install would be to open up a livecd/usb of ubuntu, run gparted, return the free space to your windows partition, and then run the regular installer.
[23:24] <skwird> AMS-ITGuy,  what is your vpn issue?
[23:25] <lion42> Can anyone think of a better way to do it?
[23:25] <lion42> Because that's the dumb way I'd think of doing it. :P
[23:25] <kaspi> AMS-ITGuy: what issue is that? My screen is pretty small in this non-gui stage :D
[23:25] <sKew^_-> yeah but i did make the ubuntu whit an odd name, test :P seens i wassent shure what the aslongside did ;P
[23:25] <aBound> Is there a Ubuntu ISO whereas I can customize what gets installed in it?
[23:25] <lion42> aBound, what kind of customization do you need to make?
[23:26] <kjaer> sKew^_-, you can also change the hostname
[23:26] <craigbass1976> benbloom_, weird.  Sorry about that.  Let me know what you end up with though.  craig@doopensource.com  I'm curious
[23:26] <kaspi> aBound: there's none what I know, but I think I've seeb software for creating installations, where you could customize it
[23:27] <aBound> lion42, Like for example I would like to create a customized LiveUSB for Ubuntu installing specific apps. By default it installs all sorts of apps I'd just like a few that I'd probably use.
[23:27] <kaspi> seen*
[23:27] <aBound> kaspi, Can the alternative Ubuntu ISO do something like that?
[23:27] <sKew^_-> lion42, kjaer , kaspi : i formated my SDD, and created a 100gb win7 partition ntfs ofc in win installer and and left the rest 140gb clean, then i installed ubuntu 11.10 "aslongside win7"
[23:27] <AMS-ITGuy> aBound, I think the alternate CD gives you this, you can select individual packages at the end of the install
[23:27] <skwird> this is weird
[23:28] <kaspi> aBound: there should be just another set of apps, nothing speacial afaik
[23:28] <sKew^_-> kjaer, host name and username?
[23:28] <aBound> Hmm.
[23:28] <kaspi> special>*
[23:28] <skwird> http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/oneiric/current/ says its the daily build but its the cloud image as you said, Oer
[23:28] <skwird> gaaaah
[23:28] <StrangeCharm> I backed up my secring, exported my primary key (& its subkeys) to a file, then made changes to the subkeys. I deleted some of my encryption subkeys, but not to worry, because I have backups! However, I seem get GPG to re-import the sub-keys. When import the key file, it's all like "Oh, I already have that master key, so I don't need to worry about its subkeys." I want those subkeys back in my main key, how do I fix it?
[23:28] <StepNjump> How could I reinstall this please? rHR brhl2170wlpr                            2.0.2-1                                    Brother HL-2170W LPR driver
[23:28] <StepNjump> with dpkg?
[23:28] <kjaer> sKew^_-, the hostname is your computers name, it is also possible to change your username
[23:29] <skwird> StepNjump,
[23:29] <skwird> is that a tarball?
[23:29] <kaspi> AMS-ITGuy: I think aBound wants his own set of apps already included in the install though
[23:29] <aBound> AMS-ITGuy, That's exactly what I want but to select packages after the installation starts.
[23:29] <skwird> What kind of driver file is it?
[23:29] <lion42> AMS-ITGuy, I've used the alternate installer, and that feature is not present.
[23:29] <sKew^_-> lion42, kjaer , kaspi : then  installed the ubuntu whit a name "test" cuz if it wass fail i just wipe the hole disk and start over again :)
[23:29] <kjaer> sKew^_-, usermod -l desiredName oldName
[23:29] <aBound> AMS-ITGuy, Before the installation starts is what I meant.
[23:29] <kaspi> AMS-ITGuy: not sure now xD
[23:30] <aBound> lol
[23:30] <lion42> AMS-ITGuy, at least, it isn't in default mode. In "expert" mode it may be, I'm not sure.
[23:30] <kjaer> and you can change the hostname in /etc/hostname
[23:30] <lion42> Actually, I'm going to run an install right now to see what happens. /me curious.
[23:30] <aBound> kaspi, I want to select the packages first before the installation occurs. :P
[23:30] <RaeCarruth> hi, does anyone know how to run evolution in the background and have the messaging menu notify me when a new message arrives?
[23:30] <lion42> That said. aBound, the hassle of doing what you want to do is probably greatly outweighed by the hassle that would be just deleting the packages after the fact.
[23:30] <skwird> RaeCarruth, are you on Gnome3?
[23:31] <RaeCarruth> Unity
[23:31] <StepNjump> skwird, let me check
[23:31] <aBound> lion42, Wouldn't sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean rid some packages?
[23:31] <sKew^_-> kjaer, iam loged in ;)
[23:31] <skwird> Ah, I know that in Gnome3 you can just minimize it and it notifies you in the notification area... Not sure about unity
[23:31] <aBound> lion42, Figures it'd be best to see how the alternative Ubuntu LiveCD works in VirtualBox eh?
[23:31] <kaspi> aBound: yeah that's what I said and you'll probably need some software for that... could you imagine what number of installation ISOs should be present, with all the variations of apps that you could choose from? :) search the google please, can't remember tha app's name
[23:32] <kjaer> sKew^_-, :-)
[23:32] <Guest45100> i search to install a full pack like ubuntu studio " or tango
[23:32] <AMS-ITGuy> aBound, are you looking to deploy the same image to multiple machines?
[23:32] <lion42> aBound, I'm doing that right now, actually. Can you give me a minute?
[23:32] <StepNjump> skwird, I followed these directions http://www.lwp.ca/james/ for installing the printer
[23:32] <Guest45100> what s  new ??
[23:32] <aBound> AMS-ITGuy, Nope just for me as I noticed Ubuntu does install some unnecessary packages that I won't ever use.
[23:33] <antnash> Hey. I'm trying to completely remove all traces of samba from my system and start again with it from the start but when I do aptituce search samba, next to 3 of the items I've got 'pi'. What does this mean, and how do I get rid of them?
[23:33] <kaspi> aBound: could you just purge them then?
[23:33] <aBound> lion42, No problem.
[23:33] <StepNjump> skwird: I guess I should have used checkinstall eh?
[23:33] <aBound> kaspi, I could but I'd have to find all of them one by one.
[23:33] <lion42> aBound, I'm not finding that feature in expert mode on the install CD, either.
[23:33] <lion42> Er, *alternate install cd
[23:34] <aBound> Ahh... :P
[23:34] <skwird> StepNjump, are these debs available from the official repository/
[23:34] <kaspi> aBound: You may better try ArchLinux then, all it installs with is a package manager called Pacman
[23:34] <skwird> do a yum search brother*
[23:34] <StepNjump> no I don't think so skwird
[23:34] <skwird> oops
[23:34] <skwird> apt search brother*
[23:34] <aBound> kaspi, How about this you think this would be of any help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[23:35] <AMS-ITGuy> antnash, is your samba install not working?  if you want to start over just delete the config file
[23:35] <kaspi> aBound: can't help with this, I can't display that link for now
[23:35] <AMS-ITGuy> aBound, I feel your pain, but I don't think you can get that granular
[23:35] <AMS-ITGuy> OK, so seriously who wants to help with my VPN problem? LOL
[23:35] <kjaer> antnash, "   the most common states are p, meaning that no trace of the package
[23:35] <skwird> What is it?
[23:35] <kjaer>            exists on the system"
[23:36] <kjaer> antnash, found it here: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jaunty/man8/aptitude.8.html
[23:36] <antnash> AMS-ITGuy, yeah, samba was not working at all. But not it's not working at all even worse. I've just read a little on the flags, and p is purged, i is installed. how can it be both purged and installed?
[23:36] <aBound> AMS-ITGuy, Seems like it I mean it would be nice to have that capability but doesn't seem like Ubuntu offers or we're missing something at best.
[23:36] <aBound> kaspi, No problem.
[23:37] <antnash> kjaer, How would I go about removing something that's both purged and removed?
[23:37] <skwird> StepNjump, when you follow those steps are you getting any errors or missing dependencies?
[23:37] <StepNjump> skwird: I get this when trying to go to synaptic E: The package brhl2170wlpr needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[23:37] <StepNjump> E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.
[23:38] <StepNjump> Yes I got some errors... Let me pastebin it
[23:38] <AMS-ITGuy> antnash, sorry did you try an uninstall it - and now it's not working?
[23:39] <antnash> AMD-ITGuy, that's exactly what I did
[23:40] <AMS-ITGuy> antnash, sounds like it didn't uninstall clean - have you rebooted?  have you tried reinstalling with and forcing?
[23:40] <helgee> Hi!
[23:40] <daysahead5> how important is swap space?
[23:40] <antnash> I tried uninstalling it, and now after reinstalling no smbd init is created (which I seem to remember it should be)
[23:40] <skwird> StepNjump, the problem sounds like that deb package was built for debian systems not ubuntu..
[23:40] <daysahead5> i have 4gb ram with no swap space
[23:40] <AMS-ITGuy> daysahead5, depends on how much physical RAM you have
[23:40] <daysahead5> 4gb
[23:40] <AMS-ITGuy> daysahead5, with 4gb I'd put 4gb of swap
[23:40] <antnash> AMS-ITGuy, I have rebooted multiple times. How do I reinstall and force?
[23:41] <daysahead5> thanks
[23:41] <helgee> im trying to build postler but i cant configure it cause of missing sqlite3. I added it via apt-get install sqlite3, but the buildscript say "cant find sqlite3. check pkg_config_path" I dont know what to do now
[23:42] <trism> helgee: you need the -dev package when building from source
[23:42] <skwird> some google searching presents this solution: dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq package-name-goes-here}
[23:42] <AMS-ITGuy> antnash, what happens when you just try to use the software center to reinstall the samba package?
[23:43] <skwird> StepNjump, try reinstalling with dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq package-name-here
[23:43] <antnash> AMS-ITGuy: I'll try after this reboot
[23:43] <AMS-ITGuy> antnash, kk!
[23:44] <skwird> found this long thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=590793
[23:44] <AMS-ITGuy> ...so VPN stuff..... anyone have experience (/cry)
[23:44] <skwird> some people have run into the error you mentioned StepNjump
[23:44] <ericus> is pptp vpn 128bit really that insecure as some people says?
[23:45] <skwird> AMS-ITGuy, what VPN client are you using?
[23:45] <AMS-ITGuy> ericus, i use PPTP at my office - any data that goes over a public network is at risk
[23:45] <ericus> skwird: network-manager-pptp
[23:46] <AMS-ITGuy> skwird, PPTP and I'm having a problem with split tunnelling on Ubuntu works fine on Windows 7 Pro
[23:46] <whoever> hi all, I am using aptitude , what is the "v" stand for the the left of the package
[23:48] <RussellAlan> Someone please help, I am trying to download in Mozilla, it says Could not save to /tmp unkown error
[23:48] <RussellAlan> Try saving somewhere else
[23:48] <skwird> I had troubles with split tunnelling on fedora for a long time till I switched to the open version of CiscoAnyConnect
[23:48] <skwird> its called openconnect
[23:49] <ericus> openvpn is a pain in the ass to configure in ubuntu
[23:49] <artao> hai
[23:49] <helgee> trism: thanks, that did the trick :]
[23:50] <AMS-ITGuy> skwird, is there a Windows client as well?  I have to support Windows 7 PCs
[23:50] <artao> general linux question here: Is there some way I can add "Kill this application" to a window's right click menu? ... I'm running XFCE with Ubuntu 11.10
[23:51] <StepNjump> skwird, yes you are right... but I think it was translated for ubuntu later on
[23:51] <StepNjump> sorry for the delay skwird I was on the phone... always the phone. Ok I will try that. I will brb
[23:51] <Sivik> Why if I have removed a module from the kernel modules folders, does it still load?
[23:52] <cfhowlett> artao: click on the X in the top window will kill it
[23:53] <skwird> ericus, AMS-ITGuy  hmm.. I saw this post http://www.halecomm.net/blog/2010/04/ubuntu-9-10-getting-pptp-vpnc-and-openconnect-vpn-to-work/ and am now having second thoughts about migrating
[23:53] <skwird> is it really that awful?!
[23:54] <skwird> I am on VPN ALL the time. its pretty important to me
[23:55] <skwird> AMS-ITGuy, have you considered running openconnect on Cygwin?
[23:55] <AMS-ITGuy> skwird, my problem isn't accessing the remote VPN LAN, it's that I have to route my data through it.
[23:55] <AMS-ITGuy> skwird, Cygwin?  ew.... how old is that? lol
[23:56] <skwird> hahaha
[23:56] <skwird> sorry I am completely out of touch with windows
[23:56] <skwird> its been ages
[23:56] <aBound> We don't speak of dark things like that here. lol j/k
[23:57] <riex> Hello guys, how do i add a another root user? :)
[23:57] <AMS-ITGuy> skwird, the PPTP connection works fine, but it routes all of my internet requests through the remote gateway.... if I uncheck the "don't use remote gateway" in the control panel, it doesn't route any data other than to the PPTP server I connected to
[23:57] <AMS-ITGuy> skwird, it's not a huge deal, but I want to know why it's doing what it's doing.
[23:57] <AMS-ITGuy> riex, add the user to the sudo group
[23:57] <riex> AMS-ITGuy: Where? do you have any kind of guides for it?
[23:58] <AMS-ITGuy> riex, sudo adduser username groupname
[23:59] <StepNjump> skwird: http://paste.ubuntu.com/832051/
[23:59] <skwird> AMS-ITGuy, it definitely sounds like a configuration issue
[23:59] <riex> AMS-ITGuy: I have to past under groupname root or what?
[23:59] <StepNjump> skwird: it's totally stuck