| === ts2 is now known as tsimpson | ||
| `marianne` | hello! | 13:23 |
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| AlanBell | hi `marianne` | 19:52 |
| * AlanBell always likes to be reminded where to find the backtick key | 19:52 | |
| JanC | AlanBell: it's AltGr+µ (on a Belgian keyboard) :P | 20:00 |
| maco | its unshift ~ on a US keyboard | 20:08 |
| AlanBell | unshifted ¬ on mine | 20:58 |
| maco | AlanBell: why is that even a main key on your layout? | 21:20 |
| maco | how many people REALLY do ...whatever kind of math that is.. frequently enough to warrant that? | 21:20 |
| AlanBell | because I am a crazy brit | 21:20 |
| AlanBell | set negation operator or something I think | 21:21 |
| AlanBell | nope, just logical "NOT" | 21:22 |
| AlanBell | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negation | 21:22 |
| maco | when is it *used* for logical not outside of set theory? | 21:23 |
| maco | programmers use ! | 21:23 |
| maco | normal people type the word "not" | 21:23 |
| * AlanBell has ¬ever used it | 21:23 | |
| maco | its like having the upside U for intersection on the keyboard. some maths professor somewhere is happy, and everyone else is confused | 21:24 |
| JanC | maco: I guess it reflects what people were using computers in the early 1980s... | 21:50 |
| maco | american keyboards on computers almost completely match typewriters, with one exception: 1 and l are two different keys | 21:51 |
| JanC | eh | 21:51 |
| JanC | maco: my parents have an ancient American typewriter, which has separate 1 & l :P | 21:52 |
| JanC | an "Underwood" machine | 21:53 |
| maco | oh, mine just has an l key | 21:53 |
| JanC | IIRC | 21:53 |
| JanC | maybe also depends on how old it is | 21:54 |
| maco | mine's late 80s | 21:55 |
| maco | i think | 21:55 |
| JanC | maco: eh, late 1880s or 1980s ? ;) | 21:57 |
| maco | 1980s :P | 21:57 |
| JanC | the machine I'm talking about is definately closer to 100 yo than 30 yo :P | 21:58 |
| JanC | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6d/The_Childrens_Museum_of_Indianapolis_-_Typewriter.jpg --> this looks more or less like it | 22:00 |
| maco | yeah, mine's electric | 22:03 |
| JanC | actually, it seems like many of their models lack a "1" key indeed | 22:03 |
| JanC | I thought it had a "1" key, maybe I should re-check, but I don't remember lacking it | 22:05 |
| JanC | or maybe they had different models outside the US | 22:05 |
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