[00:03] everyones trying to find daker today [00:07] Where's waldo? === cyphermox_ is now known as cyphermox [02:28] cjohnston: he must know we have work for him, he's been avoiding us ;) [04:43] lol === ts2 is now known as tsimpson [07:13] Good Night folks! [07:18] night bkerensa [07:20] hey jono [07:20] morning dholbach [07:21] what is the username/pass for the youtube account? [07:21] you can msg me it [07:30] jono, philipballew.wordpress.com/?p=171 - we are ubuntu [07:31] dholbach, yeah, I saw that [07:32] did you see https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-_4v4jLr8sZk/TrnZee43RAI/AAAAAAAACwo/mIqW9fucs9c/w352/uosocial.jpg too? it's been making the rounds on g+ :) [07:32] oh yeah, that is sweet@ [07:32] oh yeah, that is sweet! [07:34] man I am digging having multiple monitors [07:35] do you use workspaces as well? [07:35] yup [07:36] dholbach, can you send me the link to the wiki page of things we ask people to work on at the jams [07:37] in the past we listed stuff on the individual subpages of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Jams [07:37] but I think in the call we decided to put it all up on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam - right? [07:37] yup [07:37] I will use that link [08:02] dholbach, could you take a few mins today to tidy up https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam a little [08:02] it looks mostly fine, but could do with a bit of simplification [08:02] ok [08:02] thanks, pal [08:11] good morning! [08:12] Hello dpm :) [08:13] aloha [08:14] hey benonsoftware, hey czajkowski :) [08:15] dpm: hey, how are things with you ? [08:16] hey Gwaihir, ara, dpm, czajkowski, benonsoftware, MrChrisDruif - how are you all doing? [08:17] hey dholbach! doing good here :-) [08:17] what about you? [08:17] good thanks! [08:17] dholbach; I'm doing pretty good, thanks for asking. How about yourself? [08:17] dholbach: Ok I guess, yourself? [08:17] czajkowski, good, happy that the cold wave hasn't really caught on in Valencia :) [08:18] Alright, 3 wanting to know how it is going with dholbach...so spit it out already ;-) [08:18] how's everything going for you? [08:18] 4 now =P [08:18] morgen dholbach [08:18] I'm doing alright :) [08:19] got a bit earlier today to have a call with the dev news team (folks from from West Coast US to Sydney) [08:19] but it didn't happen - we'll meet tomorrow [08:19] so I've been reorganising my TODO list a bit instead [08:19] * benonsoftware is happy seeing the word Sydney :P [08:20] yeah, 7UTC is around the only sane time to have a call with folks from Portland, Berlin and Sydney :) [08:21] to fully get up to speed I'm listening to a new mixtape I made - music always helps :) [08:22] :P [08:42] I'd love to hear your work dholbach [08:43] MrChrisDruif, I uploaded a few mixes here: http://www.mixcloud.com/dholbach/ [08:44] Al right, I'll have listen later. Prolly tomorrow ^_^ [09:20] good morning [09:21] Aloha alourie [09:21] hey MrChrisDruif [09:21] How's it going alourie ? [09:21] MrChrisDruif: hectic and fun [09:21] you? [09:22] Seems about right, also a bit tired [09:25] MrChrisDruif: it's quite late for you, isn't it? [09:25] * alourie has almost noon locally [09:25] Well if you think 10:25AM is late, then yes ^_^ [09:26] I'm from Holland ;-) CET, which equates to UTC+1 [09:26] AH [09:26] that's betetr [09:26] *better rather [09:27] Rather better? =P [09:27] :-) [09:35] alourie; In which country do you live? [09:35] MrChrisDruif: Israel, currently [09:36] so I'm an hour ahead of you [09:36] Ah, nice. What's the weather there? ^_^ [09:36] it's weird [09:36] not raining, but sort of cloudy [09:36] and probably a lot of dust in the air... [09:36] so it seems [09:37] ah, and ~ +17C [09:37] Ghehe...seems like a good spring day...FOR HOLLAND =P [09:38] more like summer :-) [09:38] Currently sunny and ~ -13C [09:38] wow! [09:38] No, summer would be +23 or something [09:38] ah [09:38] that's a nice spring day here [09:38] That's why I said for Holland ^_^ [09:39] yea [09:39] Anyhow, I'm off to my parents and stuff...going to do some ice-skating ^_^ [09:40] MrChrisDruif: great, have a nice one :-) [09:40] I'll get back to work [09:40] Al right, have a good workday [09:40] thanks [12:37] can the email address on https://launchpad.net/~forum-council please be updated? [14:06] buenas mornings [14:10] good morning [14:14] Bonjour [14:47] ^^ I hate that guy [14:53] ? [14:54] I'll move the artwork from the UGJ page to a separate one [14:54] Jono asked me to clean up the pages a bit [15:11] dholbach: the wiki pages? [15:11] yes [15:55] jono, oi bacon! :) [15:55] oi oi, savaloy! [15:56] dpm, balloons, dholbach, jcastro, mhall119 IRC meeting in 5 [15:56] jono, all set! [15:56] yeehaw [15:57] :-) [15:57] double time.. fun fun [15:58] lol [16:00] alright [16:00] meetingology, help [16:00] jono: (help [] []) -- This command gives a useful description of what does. is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. [16:00] lol [16:00] how do I start a meeting again? [16:00] #startmeeting [16:00] Meeting started Tue Feb 7 16:00:53 2012 UTC. The chair is jono. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [16:00] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [16:01] alright, welcome to the Canonical Community Team meeting! [16:01] dholbach, dpm, balloons, jcastro, mhall119 - I hope you are all ready :-) [16:01] I wonder what #unlurk does... [16:01] #unlurk [16:01] hm [16:01] I am! [16:01] sorry, could not resist :-P [16:01] is today G+ day or IRC day? [16:01] dholbach, devastating [16:02] jcastro, today is always IRC [16:02] #lurk [16:02] I am not sure why there is confusion :-) [16:02] excellent! I mean, uh oh! [16:02] Tue: IRC [16:02] #unlurk [16:02] Wed: G+ [16:02] :-) [16:02] ? [16:02] jono: at some point mhall got me all backwards [16:02] now I am worthless [16:02] classic mhall119 [16:02] balloons, probably safe to ignore ;-) [16:02] ok, dholbach, want to kick off [16:02] ? [16:02] sure [16:02] it's been a while since I was in our last meeting, so here goes: [16:03] bah, I can't copy from tomboy [16:03] morning all [16:03] hey technoviking [16:03] • UDW: finalised schedule, wrote session descriptions, sent preparation notes to speakers, announced, held UDW, gave 2 sessions, summary blogging and general propaganda!$ [16:03] • Canonical: discussed with Olli how I could help the PS team with getting more involved in Ubuntu development. [16:03] • Dev News: got another two updates out together with bkerensa, moved next issue planning to trello, planned a call with new contributors to the team. [16:04] • Dev Advisory team: added lots of people to our trello, reached out to lots of almost-applicants. [16:04] • Dev data: investigated broken entries together with Laney. Wrote script to extract data from DB. [16:04] • ubuntu.com/developer: discussion of new content. [16:04] • Blueprints: reviewed outstanding actions with everyone. [16:04] • Dev docs: reviewed update of the look, some licensing issues need looking into, almost there. [16:05] • Harvest: uncovered two additional issues: bug 922569, 922570. Got them deployed, Harvest is now working again. Also got Fedora patches back in! [16:05] Launchpad bug 922569 in harvest "'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xf3' in position 86: ordinal not in range(128)" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/922569 [16:05] Launchpad bug 922570 in harvest "psycopg2.ProgrammingError: can't adapt" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/922570 [16:05] • Graphs: talked with Michael Hall about Unity stats and merged a couple of changes of his. [16:05] ^ mhall119 took over. :) [16:05] • UGJ: simplified UGJ page. [16:05] whoops meeting sorry [16:05] • Sponsorship: piloted myself, announced Sponsorship Friday. [16:05] • ARB: talked with David about packaging problems regarding /opt requirement. [16:06] • Misc: mail catchup, upgraded my desktop to precise too, all nice and dandy. [16:06] Lots of other small stuff I didn't note down, as usual. :) [16:06] dholbach always pilots himself [16:06] :-) [16:06] /ignore jono [16:06] "oops" [16:06] lol [16:06] cool, any questions for dholbach? [16:06] \o/ [16:06] well done! [16:07] nice, dholbach :-) [16:07] dpm, ready to roll? [16:07] yes sir! [16:07] * jono high-fives dpm [16:08] * dpm ^5's too [16:08] So I still had some notes I wrote down for last meeting, which didn't happen, so I'll just post them to pretend I've done more work than I actually did this week... [16:08] Previous week: [16:08] - Published the new Software Centre banners for Oneiric - Oil Rush, Corebreach, And Yet It Moves [16:08] haha [16:08] ;-) [16:08] (oilrush looks so good.) [16:09] AYIM is fun [16:09] they're all awesome [16:09] - Wrote featured apps blog post on developer.ubuntu.com - http://developer.ubuntu.com/2012/01/featured-ubuntu-software-centre-apps-for-january-2012/ [16:09] - Wrote a new section on developer.ubuntu.com on how to update existing apps - http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/updating-your-app/ [16:09] - Had a chat with TLE about creating a django webapp to allow translators to upload localized images for ubuntu docs. He already has got a working webapp, and he's waiting to host it somewhere. I set up a Canonistack server, but got stuck at using juju with a django charm [16:09] - Call with balloons to discuss creating a lightweight set of tests on the wiki for localized images [16:10] - Contacted Eidete devs to submit their apps in the Software Centre [16:10] - Had a chat with wendar on how to collaborate with upstream regarding the creation of GTK API docs [16:10] - Quick chat with dholbach to sort out the license of theme files on d.u.c [16:10] - Started digging out old translations interview posts on the Fridge to copy them to the translations portal [16:10] - Contacted a bunch of people to update the status or finish community work items [16:10] - Added links to the source code for all APIs on developer.ubuntu.com [16:11] - Call with knitsche about the Complete Simplified Chinese Desktop project - waiting for reply from managers about the plan as discussed at UDS [16:11] [16:11] Last week [16:11] - Coordinated fix for bug 914667 (i.e. published apps remain as QA pending in the ARB queue) with mvo and achuni [16:11] Launchpad bug 914667 in developer-portal "Packages in the ARB process should go directly to Published without going to "Ready to Publish"" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/914667 [16:11] - Created the ubuntu-app-review-contributors team for any members wanting to contribute to reviewing apps without being part of the board - https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-app-review-contributors [16:12] Got one member already, if anyone else is interested to help reviewing apps, let me know! [16:12] - Created a report on the current status of the ARB queue https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppReviewBoard/QueueReviewFeb2012Week1 [16:12] - Spent some time off-work to learn about packaging to be more effective (or at least knowledgeable) in helping the ARB. Packaged the http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dpm/+junk/qml-memory-game/changes app from Naba Kumar with help from dholbach - thanks! [16:12] de nada [16:12] - Conversations with kyleN, mvo and gekker about the 'Complete Simplified Chinese Desktop translation' project. Answered questions, created a calendar with milestones and proposed schedule [16:12] :) [16:13] - UDW session on bringing your apps to Ubuntu. It was fun, had lots of questions, and I think for the first time ever I didn't have the time to finish the content due to the questions! [16:13] - Got reminded by an e-mail from the People & Culture department that soon it'll be my 3rd year at Canonical - time flies when you're having fun at work ;-) [16:13] woo! [16:13] :-) [16:13] jawesome! [16:13] and that's my update for today [16:15] questions anyone? [16:15] alrighty [16:15] any questions? [16:16] not from me [16:16] ok! [16:16] nor me [16:16] nor me, nice job! [16:16] jcastro, you are up [16:16] allright! [16:16] GOOD MOURNING! [16:16] mourning? [16:16] ok I will not be pastebinning this report [16:16] mourning what? [16:17] Alright, first up, juju events [16:17] http://juju.ubuntu.com/Events [16:18] we've coordinated all our submissions, CFPs, tshirts, charm school, etc. [16:18] I am currently looking for someone who might be interested in covering Europe [16:18] so if you're going to a European cloud event, let me know! [16:18] We're also planning our 2nd ever webinar on March 8th (details not solid yet, so it's unannounced) [16:19] this will be a more formal virtual charm school [16:19] with myself and Clint [16:19] new charms this week, Keystone (openstack) and the launchpad oops tool [16:19] just in case you want to run oops at home, now you can! [16:19] this week I will be concentrating on 2 things: [16:19] a) smoothing out charm review submissions (which shouldn't be hard, it's pretty lightweight) [16:20] and b) Generating slides and handouts and stuff for the Charm Schools themselves [16:20] Other things: [16:20] Linking up with IS and ISD with the forums council to make sure the forum upgrade process is rolling forward [16:20] the test server should hit 4.x this week! [16:21] awesome! [16:21] and that's the major ones, my day-to-day stuff is here: https://trello.com/board/juju-growth/4ec1696da3f94bd2ea5b2b01 and https://trello.com/board/community-team/4e6febfb247e35000000aab1 [16:21] if you want the details [16:21] that's all I got, smoke if you got em [16:22] questions, folks? [16:22] jcastro: dpm: what's the state of juju for django? [16:23] not very good [16:23] well, let me rephrase, good, just not working [16:23] needs a review/bugfix/once over [16:23] is that because it's a framework, not an app, or does it just need some extra polish? [16:23] It'll be on my next hitlist. [16:23] mhall119, yeah, it needs work, and noodles will not be working on it anytime soon, so it needs to be adopted [16:23] yeah so he was working on it, then not, and it just needs to be brought up to speed and make sure it works, etc. [16:24] have you talked to stuartm about getting ISD to adopt it? [16:24] oooh, should I? [16:24] they're not in the cloud yet, but I know they were looking at improving their devops toolbox [16:24] ok, I'll take that item on then and ping him [16:25] cool [16:25] ok [16:25] balloons, you are up next :-) [16:26] balloons, ? [16:26] kk [16:27] here we go [16:27] helped place call for HUD testing [16:28] helped place a call for unity testing, resulting in good feedback and bug fixing for unity team [16:28] spoke with Tedg and pitti about testing from ubuntu-bug and ppa's, how to fix the issue with reporting bugs we noticed in the initial calls for testing [16:28] used those experiences and new knowledgebase to put together new workflow for testing, to be put to test very soon :-) [16:29] also spoke with tedg about internal workflows and discussed how projects do QA and use launchpad [16:29] put together ubuntu QA landscape document to document the different QA teams and began work and soliciting feedback on how QA is structured [16:30] follow-up with case conductor folks and prep for pilot release [16:30] plan new requirements for case conductor with Cam and gema [16:30] help with udw session planning -- we have several QA related sessions, including one from cprofitt on ubuntu "problem" lifecycle [16:30] I think that's it from me ;-) [16:31] alright [16:31] any questions for balloons? [16:31] nice work over there balloons [16:31] o/ [16:32] balloons: I couldn't get checkbox-unity to run under a guest session [16:32] is that a known issue? [16:32] ohh really? [16:32] it wanted sudo, but the guest account didn't have it [16:32] no it's recommended you run it under guest account actually [16:32] hmmm, I got the password dialog, and that's as far as I could go [16:33] balloons, what is the current status of the Case Conductor pilot? [16:35] balloons, helloooo! [16:35] :-) [16:35] i type slow [16:35] hehe [16:35] lol [16:36] current status is that we're ready to roll out the pilot, and want to test chamr this week.. [16:36] ok cool [16:36] case conductor is in sort of a beta like status I would call it. depending on what we find, we could actually have folks using the software [16:36] but we can definitely test the charm again and I want to do so [16:36] any ETA when we can get something for the community to play with? [16:37] stefano will look at charming it tonight, but a bunch of it has been waiting for it to actually work [16:37] ok cool [16:37] alright [16:37] (not as a dig to upstream but it's close) [16:37] sometime between now and March :-) if the charm looks good when we deploy again, possibly sooner [16:37] balloons, sweet [16:37] mhall119, you are up next [16:38] alright, I'm going to do as dpm did, and cover some things from our missed week [16:38] that's the spirit [16:38] :-) [16:38] - Created HUD documentation on the wiki the day it was announced [16:39] - Worked out details of a patch pilot program for DX with Tim. He wanted more info from our statistics, which led to... [16:39] - Create more merge proposal stats, borrowing heavily from udd-sponsorship-stats [16:39] and [16:40] - Taking over partial control of unity-stats from dholbach, moving it into an actual lp project (unity-stats), with an actual team (unity-stat-dev) [16:40] good work [16:40] and also inviting members of DX to be part of that team, so they can contribute to gathering unity stats [16:41] - Reached out to XBMC developers, per jcastro's discussions with them at SCaLE, to make sure they know we're not competing with them, and want to work with them as much as possible [16:42] - Created a formal report for SUMO as an option for help.ubuntu.com [16:42] balloons: ^^ You might be interested in that, since many of the mozilla technologies probably are the same in Case Conductor [16:43] - Created a set of recommendations around the creation of Unity lenses, to try and keep then content-centric and prevent the proliferation of per-source lenses [16:43] - Createde an outline for cleaning up unity.ubuntu.com/get-involved [16:44] - Got singlet upgraded to Unity 5, packaged and (almost) into Universe with kenvandine's help [16:45] - Contacted a Gnome intern who is working on GTG improvements, she had mentioned wanting to make a GTG unity lens in her blog, will be working with her to try and bring that about [16:46] - Held 2.5 sessions for UDW! \o/ [16:46] \o/ [16:46] - Created a list of the most popular apps to target for better Unity integration [16:46] * dholbach hugs mhall119 [16:47] he's unstoppable [16:47] - Work with Will Cooke on the TV team, preparing for opening it up to more community involvement [16:48] - Discussed with the ARB about allowing separate packages for scopes and lenses to depend on eachother in the extras repo (escalated to the technical board now) [16:48] mhall119, ah, I was going to ask about that: I haven't followed the discussion of relaxing requirements for lenses in extras.u.c outside of what's been said on the ARB mailing list. Has there been any interesting reply from the TB? [16:48] dpm, not yet [16:48] not from the TB, no [16:49] no worries, thanks for the update [16:49] - Created a list of known Lenses/Scopes for Unity (nearly 60 of them!), and identifying which ones are ready for sending to the ARB (pending resolution of the package dependencies mentioned above) [16:50] - Brought up the lack of BAMF documentation with DX, bugs already exist to resolve it, but it's on someone's TODO list now [16:50] that's it for me, any questions? [16:51] hey so out of the 60 lenses [16:51] how many are you targetting to hit USC for 12.04? [16:51] (I am assuming they're not all complete) [16:52] 16 are currently compatible with Unity 5 [16:52] 4 are already in USC for oneiric, so those should be easy [16:52] ok, I am going to go now as we need to wrap soon [16:52] and I have another call [16:52] the rest need packaging, david calle is going to work on a "template packaging branch" until we have something better in quickly [16:52] thanks mhall119! [16:53] * Burndown is looking great: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-community.html [16:53] * App devs: [16:53] - Trying to free up web dev resources to focus on developer.ubuntu.com. Unlikely, so the site is being put into maintenance mode. [16:53] - Working with David and the ARB to refine the process. [16:53] - Coordinating with the Consumer Apps Team around how we can expedite apps through the review process, [16:53] * Upstreams: [16:53] - Working to get an exception to the extras dependency rule to unblock lenses and scopes going into the software center. [16:53] - Got the metrics put in place for tracking Unity community growth. [16:53] - Working with Michael around getting a new IA in place for unity.ubuntu.com. [16:53] - Working with Michael and the DX team to put a patch pilot scheme in place to get the merge proposals reviewed on a regular cadence. [16:54] - Defined key upstream targets for Unity integration and support. [16:54] * QA Strategy: [16:54] - Working with Nick to put together a refined QA community structure proposal. [16:54] - Creating a repeatable process for Nick to deliver testing around key components (e.g. Unity) and deliver a dashboard of testing results. [16:54] * Devs: [16:54] - Re-focusing a little more on dev growth and getting the sponsorship queue in place. [16:54] - Worked with Daniel to get the metrics in place. [16:54] * Juju: [16:54] - Coordinating around some expectations of growth. [16:54] - Coordinating Mark Shuttleworth keynotes for OSCON / Velocity. [16:55] * Ubuntu Global Jam: [16:55] - Organized a meeting to get the jam going rolling. [16:55] - Created and released a video for how to organize an event: http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/02/07/ubuntu-global-jam-call-for-events-2/ [16:55] - Created some mock-ups for the event page and a community dashboard on the weekend of the event - Michael is on these. [16:55] * Testing: [16:55] - Testing the HUD, Unity 5.x, Ubuntu One, and a frustrating Intel wireless bug. [16:55] * Worked on the Ubuntu Accomplishments Spec: [16:55] - A furious week of hacking - I spent all last weekend and every evening getting weird and obsessed about this project. [16:55] - I now have a fully working prototype. Just need to finish pulling some pieces together. [16:55] - I need people to help write some scripts to query Launchpad for accomplishments! Email me at jono@ubuntu.com if you can help! :-) [16:56] * UDS: [16:56] - Finalized sponsorship plans and announced it. [16:56] - Starting to review UDS plans and gathering stake-holder requirements. [16:56] * Working on a I Make Ubuntu design brief with the design team. [16:56] * Various Canonical community consultancy projects: OEM Team, Parternerships team. Helping the community to flow like a river. :-) [16:56] * Provided some community growth data for the Canonical Quarterly Business Review - things are looking good. [16:56] * Worked on some clarifications around Canonical not sponsoring Jonathan Riddell to work on Kubuntu anymore. [16:56] * Various other bits... [16:56] any final questions before I need to run? [16:56] not from me :) [16:57] jono, so you had to have points and subpoints in your notes... you showoff! [16:57] lol [16:57] re: the developer portal, is there anything that needs doing that the community can contribute to? [16:57] mhall119, yes, [16:57] mhall119, it might be a good idea for dpm to prepare a list of things the community could contribute to [16:57] cool [16:58] mhall119, we're going to be focusing on maintenance, so there are a bunch of web bugs someone with web dev experience could tackle [16:58] * mhall119 knows people with web dev experience ;) [16:58] happy to prepare a list of things the community can do [16:58] :-) [16:58] heh [16:58] ok folks, cool [16:58] I have to prep for my next call [16:58] thanks for the meeting! [16:58] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-community-team to: "Work Items: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-community.html || Community Trello: http://goo.gl/n4or5 (experiment) || Things to work on (in order): work items || dpm's channel: http://goo.gl/o2IR5" [16:58] Meeting ended Tue Feb 7 16:58:57 2012 UTC. [16:58]