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hallyn\o16:00
jamespageo/16:00
DavieyHola16:00
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justinlwbon jour16:00
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arosalesHello16:00
DavieyUrsinha: I think you are driving the chair! :)16:01
Ursinhame?16:01
UrsinhaI have another meeting in the meantime...16:01
Ursinhabut I can try to heavy multitask :)16:01
lynxmano/16:01
DavieyUrsinha: defer to next week i guess?16:02
Davieysmoser, you are next in line :)16:02
UrsinhaDaviey, I'll always have this meeting but sure, I can try :)16:02
DavieyUrsinha: You have a standing, clashing meeting?16:02
roaksoaxo/16:02
zuljambo16:03
UrsinhaDaviey, there is the desktop meeting, but I can surely try mext week :)16:03
koolhead17hi16:04
Daviey*sigh*16:04
Davieyutlemming: looks like smoser is /away, that puts you in line of fire.16:04
DavieyCan you kick off?16:04
utlemmingyeah, give me a minute to pull up the meeting minutes and stuff16:05
smoserhm..16:05
smoseri can do this.16:05
smoseri'm not away.16:05
smoserunfortunately16:06
Ursinhahaha16:06
utlemmingeither/or, smoser, you're call16:06
rbasakThis is like musical chairs!16:06
smoseri'd rather take it now.16:06
Davieysmoser: go16:06
smoser#start-meeting ubuntu-server-team16:06
smoser#startmeeting ubuntu-server-team16:06
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utlemmingsmoser: we need to welcome Justinlw to the Server team16:06
smoser[TOPIC] Review ACTION points from previous meeting16:07
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smoser * jamespage to get juju MIR's added to server precise release tracking16:07
smoserjamespage, ^16:07
jamespagesmoser: done16:07
jamespageta Daviey16:07
smosermoving on16:07
arosaleswelcome justinlw! :-)16:07
smoser[TOPIC] Precise Development16:07
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* justinlw nods, waves16:07
DavieyFeature Freeze next Thursday, anything outstanding?16:07
* smoser is not ignoring that, just figured it was more "open discussion" or some other section than 'review action points'16:07
arosalessmoser: roger, I just jumped the gun16:08
rbasakI should get my openmpi test builds done before then16:08
Davieyrbasak: Great.. rbasak, can you raise a warning this time next week if not?16:08
rbasakwill do16:08
Davieymaas will be uploaded this Thursday, pending review.16:09
DavieyAnything else of concern?16:09
hallynwe really want apparmor mount controls before ff16:09
rbasakAlso from my end, console fifo patch into nova? Is that a feature?16:09
hallynand netcf in main, and enabled in libvirt16:09
Davieyhallyn: Does that have a bug?  Dangers it won't be reached?16:09
zulrbasak: yeah ill stick in today16:09
hallynDaviey: it has bugs depending on it, but no explicit bug16:09
hallynjjohansen would know what danger of not being reached is right now.16:09
rbasakCool, thanks zul!16:10
hallyni know he has a lot to juggle, not sure where it's at16:10
Davieyhallyn: ok, i'll discuss it in -server after the meeting.16:10
hallynok16:10
Davieysmoser: Do you want to itterate over the todo bugs?16:10
smoseri can..16:10
smoserlink ?16:10
Davieyhttp://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html16:10
smoserbug 92473916:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 924739 in squid3 (Ubuntu Precise) "after upgrade from oneiric to precise, previous squid config unused, cannot be used when relocated" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92473916:11
adam_gi helped triage that one16:11
smoseryeah... and i think its significant.16:11
adam_gbut am unsure of a solution, and was hoping we might be able to discuss the squid3 transition in forum16:11
smoseri'm not sure what we've done on transition of other packages before.16:11
smoseri'm assuming there is good prior art16:11
Davieyadam_g: do you have capacity to drive it, or is it better with roaksoax ?16:11
smoserbut ending up with no running proxy seems not so nice.16:12
adam_gDaviey: i'd be happy to look into possible solutions if someone can point me toward other packages that have gone through similar transitions in the past, where config files have moved to different locations with new syntax16:12
Davieyadam_g: okay, lets take it to -server, after.16:13
adam_gDaviey: +116:13
smoserbug 88398816:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 883988 in glance (Ubuntu Precise) "db migration failing when upgrading glance - trying to create existing tables" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88398816:13
adam_gsmoser: theres still no movement on that, i was hoping it'd be fixed during their bug squashing day but there still seems to be disagreement among developers up stream on how to handle database migrations.16:13
smoseradam_g, should you just dupe that ?16:13
adam_gsmoser: yeah, there was a lot of conversion about hte issue on another bug last week, ill try to find that add a link as well16:14
smoseryou put a reference in the bug16:14
Davieyadam_g: can you open discussion with upstream and see what we should do?16:14
smoserbug 77931116:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 779311 in glance (Ubuntu) "Glance update for Ubuntu failing" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77931116:14
adam_gDaviey: yeah16:15
smoserbug 89392616:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 893926 in eucalyptus (Ubuntu) "Contains traces of UEC" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89392616:15
DavieyI'll follow up with the assignee16:15
smoserk16:17
smoserbug 91181216:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 911812 in facter (Ubuntu Precise) "processor fact does not handle arm, others" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91181216:17
Davieyroaksoax: ?16:17
roaksoaxDaviey: adam_g was working on it and AFAIK he requested access to the arm cluster to work on it16:17
Davieyahh16:17
roaksoaxDaviey: though it was determined that upstream contains the fix for it, we just need to SRU16:18
Davieyrbasak: Do you think you could chime in?16:18
smoseradam_g, refute or deny in #ubuntu-server16:18
smoserbug 91300916:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 913009 in bacula (Ubuntu) "package bacula-common-mysql (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/bacula/libbaccats.la', which is also in package bacula-common 5.2.1-0ubuntu2" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91300916:18
* smoser will do that after this meeting.16:18
adam_groaksoax: please continue on with that one, i only was able to confirm its at least fixed in the current release16:18
smosermeant to do it this morning16:18
smoserbug 91439216:18
Davieygit bisect ++16:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 914392 in juju "LXC local provider does not respect 'series' (only installs oneiric)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91439216:18
rbasakadam_g, roaksoax, Daviey: I'm happy to test on my panda, just let me know16:19
smoserbranch is still under review there. maybe hazmat can ping a bit.16:19
roaksoaxadam_g: will sure do.16:19
roaksoaxrbasak: will prepare SRU's and give them for you to test!16:19
* smoser will ping hazmat and beg.16:19
smoserbug 92368116:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 923681 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Server install fails when selecting everything but 'VM host' & 'Manual selection' from tasksel" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92368116:19
Davieyi think that wants input from zul16:20
smoserthat seems somewhat significant16:20
zulfrom me?16:20
Davieyit's a Conflicts issue.16:20
Davieysee comment #216:20
smoserzul, please take a look.16:21
smoserbug 85044316:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 850443 in python-eventlet (Ubuntu) "Nova API does not listen on IPv6" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85044316:21
zulsmoser: ack16:21
smoserDaviey, did you think that was going to get fixed upstream?16:21
rbasak914392 will cause big issues for arm if it doesn't get fixed16:21
Davieysmoser: NFI16:21
rbasakbug 91439216:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 914392 in juju "LXC local provider does not respect 'series' (only installs oneiric)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91439216:22
smoserrbasak, it willg et fixed.16:22
smoserbug 89884016:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 898840 in cobbler (Ubuntu) "'default' preseed should be enlister" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89884016:22
Davieysmoser: there is a patch we can steal16:22
Daviey(proposed upstream, wanted to wait for it to be applied.)16:22
Davieyroaksoax: bug 898840 ?16:23
smoserah. to eventlit.16:23
roaksoaxDaviey: ready to merge16:23
smoserDaviey, so should that be closed on openstack-compute ?16:23
roaksoaxDaviey: though holding it till I succesfully test the maas16:23
Davieyroaksoax: just land it for orchestra, we'll adjust for next version16:24
smoserwell... i'll poke a bit.16:24
roaksoaxDaviey: cool then16:24
Davieysmoser: It's unclear.. I'd leave the task open for a bt16:24
smoserk16:24
smoserbug 88033916:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 880339 in mysql-5.1 (Ubuntu Precise) "AppArmor profile needs update" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88033916:24
smoserroaksoax,16:25
DavieySpamapS might like to add his thoughts?16:25
roaksoaxDaviey: it was marked invalid as I couldn't reproduce it16:25
roaksoaxDaviey: it was just re-openfor what I can see16:25
roaksoaxDaviey: will look into it again16:25
DavieyWith the current discussion going on RE: mysql - that bug might need adjusting16:25
Davieycool16:25
smosermove on?16:26
smoserbug 87526216:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 875262 in php5 (Ubuntu Oneiric) "PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/sqlite.so'" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87526216:26
DavieySpamapS: ^^ working with koolhead17 ?16:26
koolhead17i got help on this from SpamapS16:26
smoserok. and its targetted to beta-1. good job koolhead1716:26
SpamapSsorry I've been away16:27
smoserbug 90468116:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 904681 in Ubuntu "precise amd64 minimal-virtual install is oversized" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90468116:27
SpamapSDaviey: re the mysql bug.. its been pending for a while.. simple fix. I think there's a dupe in mysql-5.5 that is marked High16:27
DavieyI think oversized is fixed?16:27
* Daviey checks16:27
Davieyhttps://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Precise/job/precise-server-amd64_minimal-virtual/16:28
smoserDaviey, where are you checking? just for those who are playing the home-game16:28
Davieywoot16:28
smoserthanks16:28
koolhead17also Daviey for 875262 there is big merge coming so SpamapS suggested me to hold on :P16:28
SpamapSre PHP, I've asked koolhead17 to lay off, given the weirdness coming from Debian16:28
smoserok. good. so it seems we're on-target there. thank you SpamapS and koolhead1716:28
smoserbug 90665416:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 906654 in nova (Ubuntu) "nova should depend on openstackx and load appropriate osapi_extensions by default" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90665416:28
SpamapSI had given up on php 5.4.0 , but some folks have privately asked me to take a second look at it16:28
Davieyzul: ^^ ?16:29
DavieySpamapS: sounds good.16:29
SpamapSThere's a discussion happening today in the Debian php group about suhosin also16:29
smoserwell, per adam_g16:29
smoserNote: This will likely be marked invalid soon, as the openstackx library is soon to be marked deprecated and removed in favor of python-novaclient.16:29
adam_gsmoser: yes, thats still true. id like to confirm whether or not thats actually happened yet16:30
adam_gsmoser: will mark the bug invalid as soon as i can do that16:30
smoseradam_g, yeah. thanks.16:30
Davieyoh, nice16:30
smoserbug 90719716:30
zulDaviey: openstackx has already removed from horizon16:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 907197 in nova (Ubuntu) "ip address can't be injected into the instance when using lxc " [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90719716:30
smoserzul you want to lok at that? i can take a quick look also16:30
adam_gzul: what about in nova?16:30
zulsmoser:  please16:30
smoser(but in my opinion,that is extremely low importance)16:31
zuladam_g: i think its gone as well16:31
smoseri fear i'm going to get sick to my stomach looking from reading the stack trace though16:31
smoseryuck16:31
smoserbug 87966616:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 879666 in nova (Ubuntu Precise) "chown error for console.fifo when launching vm" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87966616:31
Davieyrbasak: ^6 ?16:32
Davieydid you patch get re-added?  zul ?16:33
rbasakzul is taking this for precise; I have yet to rebase my patch for oneiric16:33
zulDaviey: working on it now16:33
Davieycool16:33
smoserk16:33
smoserbug 91648916:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 916489 in ipxe (Ubuntu) "grub-ipxe says "B: command not found"" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91648916:33
zulrbasak: ill do oneiric as well16:33
smoserlynxman,16:33
rbasakthanks zul!16:33
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Davieyjamespage: How is lynxman's ipxe upload?16:34
lynxmansmoser: still need to finish some comments on the new ipxe package, as soon as those are done this bug will be fixed16:34
zulrbasak: more than one16:34
smoserlynxman, gracias16:34
Davieylynxman: can this be done by EoW?16:34
smoserbug 92437516:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 924375 in cloud-init (Ubuntu) "cloud-init should allow pre-seeding of ec2 datasource:Ec2:metadata_urls" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92437516:34
* smoser waits on lynxman16:34
smosercloud-init bug i'll have that fixed in cloud-init by feature freeze.16:34
lynxmanDaviey: will try but cant say16:34
smoserbug 92616016:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 926160 in Ubuntu "precise cloud-images significantly larger than oneiric" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92616016:35
Davieysmoser: you are king.16:35
Davieylynxman: We are depending on you :)16:35
smoserutlemming, can i assign that to you for further invfestigation?16:35
utlemmingsmoser: yup16:35
smosertake a look at that bug, it is interesting.16:36
lynxmanDaviey: I have zero allowance from management on this one, will try to push a nighter to do it :)16:36
smoserthe 'du --apparent-size' of / on oneiric and precise is very similar, but 'df' reports a completely different story.16:36
smoserbug 83349916:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 833499 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "virt/disk.py unconditionally inserts public_keys into /root/.ssh/authorized_keys" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83349916:36
smoseri dont think that is going to get fixed up stream unless one of us do it.16:36
smoserand i think it'd be a feature request too...16:37
smoserso..16:37
smoseri tihnk we should take it off this list for essex/precise. its low enough priority with the cloud-init work around16:37
smoserDaviey, ?16:37
smoserbug 90188116:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 901881 in glance (Ubuntu) "nova should depend on python-keystone" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90188116:37
Davieysmoser: how importiant?16:37
smoserlow at best16:38
Davieysmoser: it's not a feature IMO16:38
Davieysmoser: lets utrack it.16:38
smoserit is a feature from openstack perspective.16:38
Davieyuntack16:38
smoserthat bug is fix-released16:39
smoserwhy is it in this list?16:39
smoserer... why is ther ea glace task16:39
smoseradam_g, ?16:39
Davieysmoser: glance has the same bug16:39
Davieythe title doesn't reflect it16:40
smoserah. k. so who is driving that fix?16:40
Davieyzul: Did you say there was a pending upload?16:40
Daviey(which should now be in the archive?)16:40
zulstill waiting for keystonelight16:41
adam_gisn't keystone is still going thru MIR, probably a new MIR?16:41
Davieyzul: uh?16:41
Davieyglance is blocked on keystonelight?16:41
zulit shouldnt be and isnt16:41
zulkeystone needs a new security review as well16:41
* Daviey confused.16:41
zulas am i16:41
zulcan we talk about it after the meeting?16:42
Davieyzul: k16:42
zulstill juggling alot of plates16:42
smoserbug 88964416:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 889644 in openmpi (Ubuntu) "Please update OpenMPI to the 1.5 upstream version" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88964416:42
smoserthat has the honorable rbasak assigned16:42
rbasakI can't remember if this has progressed since last week.16:42
Davieysmoser: i read that as horrible !16:42
smoserk. please poke at it a bit and see if you can't make it do so.16:42
rbasakI have a PPA build that succeeds. Need to try rdepend builds against it next.16:43
rbasakReaders should note that I have no means of actually testing any of these packages apart from that they build.16:43
smoserDaviey, if you dont have anything nice to say dont say anything at all16:43
Davieyrbasak: if it compiles, lets ship it :)16:43
rbasakI'd appreciate input from stakeholders on testing - otherwise they won't get tested.16:43
smoserbug 88718616:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 887186 in orchestra (Ubuntu) "squid proxy big and small buckets not functioning correctly" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88718616:43
smoserrbasak, make sure you just ask the opener for testing your ppa build.16:44
smoserroaksoax, ^16:44
rbasakopener?16:44
smoserah. oh yeah, dave walker was opener.16:44
smoserregarding squid proxy, there is a thread on an internal canonical mailing list that i tihnk might get orchestra-proxy moving in a different manner.16:45
smoseror at least help us collect some information.16:45
Davieysmoser: we should probably move on?16:45
smoseryep16:45
roaksoaxsmoser: upstream issue16:45
smoserroaksoax, pleaes open upstream bug or task then ?16:45
roaksoaxsmoser: i'm yet unsuare whether we should have a newer upstream release which supposedly fixes that16:45
smoserk.16:46
smoserwell poke a bit please.16:46
roaksoaxdue to the latest issues we've been experiencing16:46
roaksoaxsmoser: will do16:46
smoseri think thats all we hae vor this section16:46
smoserthank fully16:46
smoser[TOPIC] Ubuntu Server Team Events16:46
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smoseranyone have anything here?16:46
smoserk. looks like nothing.16:47
DavieyThankfully, no16:47
smoserme moving on.16:47
smoserhggdh,16:47
smoser[TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)16:47
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smoseri'll just state here that the openstack jenkins stuff is awesome.16:48
smoserbig round of applause to adam_g zul jamespage16:48
arosales+116:48
smb\o/16:48
smoserand surely others that I am missing and who can swear at me later.16:48
smoserfor the reference: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Precise%20OpenStack%20Testing/16:49
koolhead17adam_g: i need the doc though 4 charm deployment :P16:49
smosersmb, is up  now16:49
Daviey\o/16:49
smoser[TOPIC]16:49
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smoserWeekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)16:49
smb * Trying to hunt down why libvirt-bin needs to be restarted before it16:49
smb   gives me running domU's, I first removed all the other error sources16:49
smb   from the logs. One was my fault of experimenting with qemu-dm paths.16:49
smb * Other source was libvirt insisting in running pm-is-supported from16:49
smb   pm-utils without insisting (depending) on installing it.16:49
smb   Question is that pebcak or something worth adding to libvirt-bin's16:49
smb   runtime dependencies?16:49
smb * Currently looking at remoteDispatchNumOfDomainsHelper which should16:49
smb   give one the IDs of guests but only seems to do that after restarting16:49
smb   libvirtd. The call to remoteDispatchNumOfDefinedDomainsHelper on the16:49
smb   other hand works all the time.16:49
smb..16:49
smosersmb, it was failing ?16:50
smoseri really cant see that (libvirt due to pm-is-supported)16:50
smbsmoser, No, that was just cluttering the log16:50
smoseri'm almost certain i've run vms on generally headless systems. if it fails, please open a bug. if it just warns, then suggests or recommends is probably right.16:50
smbSo its more cosmetical16:50
smosercosmetical16:50
smosernice.16:50
smosersmb, well i dont have anything for you.16:51
smoserbut i am remembering this bug16:51
Davieysmb: Have a bug number?16:51
* smb likes the sound of that16:51
Davieysmoser is off form.16:51
smoserbug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/89837316:51
ubottuUbuntu bug 898373 in cloud-init (Ubuntu) "fsck.ext3: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/xvda2" [High,Confirmed]16:51
smbDaviey, Not for the pm-utils dependency. I was not sure this is really that important16:52
smoserthat is not related to kernel, but Daviey probably should be tracked16:52
smoseri'll get it into a beter state, updated with the info i have in my head16:52
smoserand one other bug will come out of it16:52
smbsmoser, Hm, not sure I remember that one16:52
smosersmb, not kernel related.16:52
smoserjust was thinking about it as i was thinking of "why does ec2 suck sometimes"16:52
smoseras usually i blame smb for that ;)16:53
smbheh :)16:53
DavieyAww, meanie16:53
smoserARM!16:53
smoser[TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)16:53
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Davieyrbasak: have you fixed ARM?16:53
smoseri have some stuff to fill in here if rbasak does not type in 316:54
smoser216:54
smoser116:54
smoserit looks like we're going to move the cloud-images output for arm from armel to armhf.16:54
* justinlw yay16:54
jamespage\o/16:54
Davieysmoser: seems to make sense to me16:54
rbasakSorry, pee break16:54
Davieyutlemming: ?16:54
smoseras, other than oracle's jvm, nothing really needs soft float16:54
rbasakYeah, it's fixed. You do mean my panda, right? :)16:54
smoserand rbasak claims that we can potentially still support that with multi-arch16:55
Davieysmoser: hmm, oracle's jvm doesn't work with armel?16:55
Davieyerr, armhf16:55
smoseronly with armel16:55
jamespagenot yet16:55
Davieythat is suck.16:55
utlemmingrobie had some thoughts about multi-arch there16:55
Davieyok16:55
rbasakIn that it should in theory work16:55
smosertheories are always nice to have16:56
utlemmingbut its not tested16:56
smoseranything else?16:56
jamespagespeaking of java on arm; openjdk on precise has now switched back to the zero JVM with the thumb2 intepreter16:56
rbasakBut it looks like armhf (gnueabihf) will be the ARM server standard16:56
smoserdarn16:56
rbasakSo Oracle would be crazy to not support it.16:56
Davieylets progress, seems in hand.16:56
smoser[TOPIC] Open Discussion16:56
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jamespageit passes the Java TCK so if currently the best we have in archive16:56
smosernow HERE is where utlemming or arosales could chime in16:56
arosales:-)16:57
jamespageI have something!16:57
Davieyjamespage: we all do16:57
* SpamapS hopes its a pony16:57
rbasakWelcome justinlw!16:57
smoserwelcome justinlw16:57
arosaleswecome justinlw :-)16:57
adam_gwelcome!16:57
SpamapSjustinlw: AHOY!16:57
Davieyjustinlw: Fancy introducing yourself?16:57
utlemming+116:57
* justinlw Came from Amazon KaOS & EC2 (worked w/utlemming).16:58
Davieyexciting!16:58
koolhead17is justinlw now with canonical?16:58
* justinlw Have done some work w/Calxeda Qemu and am becoming ARM (semi)Literate16:58
justinlwkoolhead17: yes16:58
koolhead17cool16:59
* justinlw will be tugging on sleeeves for some ramp-up work-flow, etc. help16:59
smoseranything else?16:59
* justinlw kind to puppies16:59
smoserother wise...16:59
* SpamapS will be happy to turn the fire hose on justinlw now16:59
SpamapSok16:59
SpamapSwe should be done now16:59
Davieylets go home!16:59
smoserplease all join us next week16:59
smoserat this same time16:59
smosersame channel16:59
justinlwl8r16:59
Davieyfor another exciting installment16:59
smoser[TOPIC] Announce next meeting date and time16:59
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Davieyetc16:59
Davieysmoser: Who si chair next week?17:00
smoser$NOW + 7*24*60*60-60*6017:00
smosernext weeks chair is not me17:00
smoserlooks like utlemming17:00
SpamapSHeh.. not me, but come march when DST starts I'll be chair for like 6 straight weeks :-P17:00
DavieySpamapS: happy times.17:00
zulas it should be17:00
smoseralthough urshina doesn't move herself off the top of the list17:00
smoserso...17:00
smoserreally...17:01
UrsinhaI can do that17:01
smoseryou only have to do it if you dont want to chair indefinitely17:01
smoser:)17:01
smoser#endmeeting17:01
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Feb  7 17:01:30 2012 UTC.17:01
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smoserthank you, and good night.17:01
Ursinhalol17:01
jamespagecheerio folks!17:01
Ursinhathanks smb17:01
Ursinhaoops17:01
Ursinhasmoser,17:01
Ursinhasmb as well :P17:01
arosalesthanks smoser17:01
* smb always takes any thanks he can get :)17:01
jsalisbury#startmeeting17:02
jsalisbury##17:02
jsalisbury## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting.17:02
jsalisbury##17:02
jsalisbury[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting17:02
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Feb  7 17:02:00 2012 UTC.  The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.17:02
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jsalisbury[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Precise17:02
jsalisbury# Meeting Etiquette17:02
jsalisbury#17:02
jsalisbury# NOTE: '..' indicates that you are finished with your input.17:02
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jsalisburyRoll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting17:02
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jsalisbury[TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)17:02
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ppisatiUUID support: Found a way to support an initrd-less kernel using GPT, an hybrid mbr and the ROOTUUID boot parameter, kernel seems to be good already.17:02
ppisatilp709245 ("ARM SMP scheduler performance bug"): Still bisecting latest P kernel trying to find where the fix for this issue has been embedded in the TI BSP - whenever i turn on the the corresponding upstream errata (PL310_ERRATA_769419) the kernel hangs on boot, so there must be a previous patch clashing in there. Now i'm down to a ~160 commits window.17:02
ppisatiP/omap4: Nothing new to report this week.17:02
ppisati..17:03
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)17:03
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jsalisburyRelease metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:17:03
jsalisbury[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt17:03
jsalisbury..17:03
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)17:03
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ogasawara[LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-kernel-distro-team-ubuntu-12.04-beta-1.html17:03
ogasawara|| apw        || hardware-p-kernel-boot                || 2 work items ||17:03
ogasawara||            || hardware-p-kernel-config-review       || 3 work items ||17:03
ogasawara||            || hardware-p-kernel-delta-review        || 2 work items ||17:03
ogasawara|| ogasawara  || hardware-p-kernel-config-review       || 4 work items ||17:03
ogasawara|| sconklin   || servercloud-p-ceph                    || 1 work item  ||17:03
ogasawara|| tgardner   || hardware-p-kernel-delta-review        || 1 work item  ||17:03
ogasawaraIf your name is in the above table, please review your Beta-1 work items.17:03
ogasawara..17:03
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Blueprint: hardware-p-kernel-power-management (cking)17:04
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ckingPower Management:17:04
cking * CPU governor testing (Intel only) (will test AMD CPUs later)17:04
cking   http://zinc.canonical.com/~cking/power-benchmarking/cpu-governor/results.txt17:04
cking..17:04
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Status: Precise Development Kernel (ogasawara)17:04
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ogasawaraLast week we rebased to v3.2.4 and uploaded.  We've recently rebased to v3.2.5 and plan to upload shortly.  Note that Beta-1 is on the horizon with Beta Freeze approximately 2 weeks away.  We'll be prepping our Beta-1 kernel next week.  If there are any patches which need to land, submit them now.17:04
ogasawaraI'd like to also note that we've opened the Q git repo for anyone interested (git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-q.git).  At this time, it is strictly for development/testing purposes only and will not be supported until Q officially opens in the archive.17:04
ogasawaraImportant upcoming dates:17:04
ogasawara * Thurs Feb 23 - Beta Freeze (~2 weeks)17:04
ogasawara * Thurs Mar 01 - Beta 117:04
ogasawara..17:04
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Status: CVE's (apw)17:05
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apwCurrently we have 73 CVEs on our radar, six new CVEs were added this week.17:05
apwSee the CVE matrix for the current list:17:05
apw 17:05
apw[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html17:05
apw 17:05
apwOverall we have pushed the backlog down by approximatly 2 CVEs this week:17:05
apw 17:05
apw[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt17:05
apw[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt17:05
apw 17:05
apwWe have also pushed another CVE back to security for review.  This backlog17:05
apwis increasing.17:05
apw 17:05
apw..17:05
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Oneiric/Natty/Maverick/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton)17:06
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bjfHere is the status for the main kernels, until today (Jan. 24):17:06
bjf 17:06
bjf * Hardy - 2.6.24-30.9817:06
bjf  * Nothing new this cycle.17:06
bjf 17:06
bjf * Lucid - 2.6.32-38.8517:06
bjf  * Proposed is frozen due to 10.04.4 prep.17:06
bjf 17:06
bjf * Maverick - 2.6.35-32.6517:06
bjf  * Regression testing.17:06
bjf 17:06
bjf * Natty - 2.6.38-13.5517:06
bjf  * Regression testing.17:06
bjf            17:06
bjf * Oneiric - 3.0.0-16.2717:06
bjf  * Regression testing.17:06
bjf 17:06
bjfCurrent opened tracking bugs details:17:06
bjf * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html17:06
bjf  17:06
bjfFor SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:17:06
bjf * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html17:06
bjf 17:06
bjfFuture stable cadence cycles:17:06
bjf * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseInterlock17:06
bjf..17:06
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)17:06
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jsalisburyOK, Thanks everyone17:07
jsalisbury#endmeeting17:07
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Feb  7 17:07:59 2012 UTC.17:07
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cancerwhen is the meeting going to be held according to IST19:24
czajkowskihighvoltage: stgraber meeting reminder19:40
vibhavIs today the EMEA meeting?19:41
TadeasParikvibhav, It should be, I hope :)19:42
czajkowskiyes in less than 20 mins19:42
* vibhav gives everybody popcorn19:43
stgraberczajkowski: highvoltage won't be there. "19:14 < highvoltage> stgraber: could you pleade pass my excuses to the emra rmb meeting? Im running hopelessly late"19:43
czajkowskistgraber: cheers, dont see iulian or drubin  yet19:44
vibhavIts 1:15 Am here19:45
czajkowskivibhav: aye times don't always work for people, but it's one meeting and hopefully worth it19:45
beunowe should get sponsored by a coffee company19:46
vibhavhahaha19:46
czajkowskibeuno: TEA!19:46
beunowell, if you really want to stay awake, I suggest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_%28beverage%2919:48
vibhavboth cold and hot water extractions of popular commercial yerba mate products contained high levels (8.03 to 53.3 ng/g dry leaves) of carcinogenic polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons19:49
iainfarrell_sounds like a dangerous scientific mix :)19:52
iainfarrell_hi everyone19:52
vibhavThis. Is. It.19:52
* vibhav wishes everybody good luck19:52
* iainfarrell_ rather hopes he won't need it :)19:53
* iainfarrell_ crosses fingers and toes19:53
czajkowskiogra_: stgraber drubin  ping19:54
czajkowskibeuno: we may need you also19:54
knomeoh, it's thee iainfarrell_ :)19:55
beunosure thing19:55
* jussi hides from knome19:55
* vibhav googles knome19:55
iainfarrell_hey knome  :)19:55
knomehai!19:55
iainfarrell_it is if that's a good thing19:55
* iainfarrell_ changes name19:55
iainfarrell_:)19:56
czajkowskihmm dinner is late and going to be delievered mid meeting, joy!19:56
knomehah, hei jussi :P19:56
vibhavoh , thats a nick19:56
vibhavits almost time19:57
iainfarrell_vibhav, do you know something we don't? :)19:58
iainfarrell_sounds serious19:58
knomeiainfarrell_, EMEA board meeting?19:58
vibhavyeah19:58
beunovibhav, it seems you applied to the Americas board a few weeks ago19:58
iainfarrell_knome, yeah, was kidding, I meant the tone  :)19:58
knome;)19:58
vibhavbeuno: yeah  , BUt they turned me down because I was not attending FOSS events19:59
vibhavBut now I updated my wiki19:59
knomeiainfarrell_, btw... finally released some days ago: http://xubuntu.org/19:59
beunovibhav, so I think the reasons you didn't get membership still apply, 2 weeks later19:59
iainfarrell_knome, cool!19:59
iainfarrell_knome, nice to see it up and running, we're running it on a server in the office at the moment20:00
knomeiainfarrell_, yeah (and thanks)! we were quite excited about it, and now it's finally ready. now to fix the content though... ;)20:00
vibhavbeuno: Could I PM you?20:00
knomeiainfarrell_, hah, then don't kick it around :P20:00
czajkowskivibhav: this is the opion of the others on the board also vibhav20:01
beunovibhav, you can, but this is involves the whole board  :)20:01
czajkowskibeuno: can you chair ?20:01
iainfarrell_knome, well I won't20:01
czajkowski*pretty* please!20:01
iainfarrell_a colleague will20:01
beunoyes I can20:01
beunoif I remember all the right commands!20:01
knomeiainfarrell_, ah, yeah, delegating... :)20:01
iainfarrell_knome, to someone who knows what a server is ;)20:01
pangolinThe reason was not because you were not attending physical events, they wanted to see more participation with other users. attending/helping with events was just one of the things they suggested20:01
* knome will shut up to give way to the meeting20:01
czajkowskiok ok folks can we please start the meeting20:02
czajkowskiand leave the jibber jabber for a but20:02
czajkowski*bit20:02
knomeiainfarrell_, feel free to chat around @ #xubuntu-devel if interested ;)20:02
* knome zips mouth20:02
pangolin^20:02
* vibhav sips coffee20:02
beunoalright, lets get this party started20:02
beuno#startmeering20:02
beunobad start20:02
beuno#startmeeting20:02
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Feb  7 20:02:53 2012 UTC.  The chair is beuno. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.20:02
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iainfarrell_LOL20:02
* stgraber waves20:03
vibhav^20:03
vibhav^^^20:03
beunoiainfarrell_, you seem to be up first!20:03
czajkowskiok let see if we have enough20:03
* knome waves to stgraber, but very silently20:03
iainfarrell_indeed :)20:03
czajkowskistgraber: Pendulum myself and beuno20:03
czajkowskiyup20:03
beuno#link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/EMEA20:04
beunoiainfarrell_, tell us about yourself!20:04
czajkowskiiainfarrell_: welcome, thanks for making it, I know you;ve been on this list now since october! :)20:05
iainfarrell_well beuno and others20:05
beuno#topic iainfarrell's application20:05
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iainfarrell_My name's Iain and I've been an Ubuntu user full time I'd say for about 3 years20:05
iainfarrell_and played before that20:05
iainfarrell_as an aside I recently started playing Eve online20:05
beuno#link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IainFarrell20:05
iainfarrell_and last time I tried it20:05
iainfarrell_it was so hard20:05
iainfarrell_I stopped playing20:05
iainfarrell_and instead installed this new distro20:05
iainfarrell_raved about on Digg20:05
iainfarrell_called Ubuntu :)20:05
iainfarrell_and that's what I love about it, it just works20:06
iainfarrell_and this community is exciting and I want to stay a part of it20:06
iainfarrell_even though I no longer work for Canonical20:06
iainfarrell_as before I want to contribute and mainly in the area of adding photos to our desktop20:06
iainfarrell_and helping contribute to its distinctiveness20:07
Pendulumwin 5220:07
* beuno hugs Pendulum 20:07
beunoiainfarrell_, great to still see you around post-Canonical20:07
iainfarrell_I'm also running the wallpaper contributions process at the mo20:07
czajkowskiiainfarrell_: can you tell us about the wallpaper and your role in that ?20:07
iainfarrell_we've got over 1000 entries already and it doesn't close until March :)20:08
iainfarrell_yeah20:08
iainfarrell_so about 4 releases ago20:08
iainfarrell_we decided that the community contributions needed a boost and we'd talked at UDS about what could be done20:08
iainfarrell_I decided to see if a small set of beautiful wallpapers could be pulled together20:08
iainfarrell_I felt it would really add20:08
iainfarrell_and it's something that's reasonably straight forward to run20:09
iainfarrell_it's also something that people who aren't technical can contribute to20:09
iainfarrell_because there's a lot of that still today20:09
czajkowskiiainfarrell_: great stuff20:09
iainfarrell_I see it on the ubuntu-artwork list and chat rooms all the time20:09
czajkowskiiainfarrell_: so how do you see your role in the community going forward?20:09
iainfarrell_and I've run it ever since20:09
iainfarrell_well continue to do that20:09
iainfarrell_I'm also talking to the guys at 500px about pulling together the first of a curated collection20:10
iainfarrell_which would be a gift to the community if you like20:10
iainfarrell_it wouldn't fit on the ISO20:10
iainfarrell_but would be lovely high res images20:10
iainfarrell_which we source from pro photographers20:10
iainfarrell_and we give away20:10
iainfarrell_it promotes us and the very powerful technical and creative tools we offer20:10
iainfarrell_to an audience who've never heard of us20:11
iainfarrell_and are tinkerers by nature20:11
iainfarrell_they think this free tool made by a bunch of us20:11
iainfarrell_who are all over the world20:11
iainfarrell_and barely see each other20:11
iainfarrell_is quite a cool thing20:11
iainfarrell_and that's why I also want to get more involved in DarkTable20:11
iainfarrell_which is a really cool project and you should all check it out20:11
iainfarrell_it's a very very powerful photo editing tool20:12
Azzurrio_cool20:12
iainfarrell_I could go on but then I do that, I'm easily excited :)20:12
beunocool cool20:12
iainfarrell_so do tell me to stop :)20:12
beunoiainfarrell_, you involved at all the LoCo?20:13
t4nk061hot20:13
iainfarrell_not regularly since I left London, I usually was a conduit for them to get to people in the building for catching up :)20:13
iainfarrell_for example if one was trying to track down Ivanka or Charline or someone20:13
iainfarrell_now I live in the north east too and they're mostly further south20:14
iainfarrell_so I'm not sure where I'd help but I'd be very happy to pitch in20:14
iainfarrell_to be honest, with the move I've not really looked into any groups locally20:14
iainfarrell_it's quite rural where I am now20:14
iainfarrell_but we use Ubuntu at work on all our dev machines20:15
iainfarrell_which is pretty cool :)20:15
beunoindeed!20:15
beunoalright20:15
beunotime to vote20:15
iainfarrell_so I advocate in a professional space20:15
* iainfarrell_ shuts up :)20:15
beuno#voters czajkowski Pendulum stgraber beuno20:15
meetingologyCurrent voters: Pendulum beuno czajkowski stgraber20:15
beuno#vote o20:15
meetingologyPlease vote on: o20:15
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)20:15
beuno#vote Iain Farrel's application20:16
beunobah20:16
meetingologyVoting still open on: o20:16
beuno#endvote20:16
meetingologyVoting ended on: o20:16
meetingologyVotes for:0 Votes against:0 Abstentions:020:16
meetingologyDeadlock, casting vote may be used20:16
beuno#vote Iain Farrel's application20:16
meetingologyPlease vote on: Iain Farrel's application20:16
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)20:16
beunook, now  :)20:16
beuno+1 from me20:16
meetingology+1 from me received from beuno20:16
Pendulum+120:16
meetingology+1 received from Pendulum20:16
stgraber+120:16
meetingology+1 received from stgraber20:16
beunoand I have: 20:11 < czajkowski> I'm +120:17
beunoshe just went off for a bit20:17
beuno#endvote20:17
meetingologyVoting ended on: Iain Farrel's application20:17
meetingologyVotes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:020:17
meetingologyMotion carried20:17
beunowelcome iainfarrell_!20:17
knomeiainfarrell_, congrats20:17
Tm_Tiainfarrell_: congrats20:17
* vibhav hugs iainfarrell_ 20:17
iainfarrell_Yay! many thanks beuno and knome and Tm_T20:17
iainfarrell_very pleased and excited20:17
Katchup-120:18
* iainfarrell_ pops a cork20:18
beunono jo-erland?20:18
Pendulumiainfarrell_: congrats!20:18
iainfarrell_Cheers Pendulum :)20:18
Katchupiainfarrell_: congrats20:18
beunoGunnarHj, you around?20:18
GunnarHjSure. Hi all!20:19
beuno#topic GunnarHj's application20:19
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beunoGunnarHj, tell us about yourself!20:19
GunnarHjI'm Gunnar Hjalmarsson, a Swedish fellow living in Gothenburg.20:19
GunnarHjHave used Ubuntu for about 1.5 years, and been involved in (mostly) i18n related patching and bugfixing for almost as long period.20:19
GunnarHjApplied last July, but was turned down (zeroes). Since then I have basically kept doing the same kind of work; the good news is that there are a few testimonials on the wiki page this time.20:19
czajkowskihttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/GunnarHj20:19
beuno#link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GunnarHj20:19
czajkowskiGunnarHj: so mainly in bugs and translations?20:21
GunnarHjWell, not translations exactly. It's more about the interfaces for setting languages etc.20:21
GunnarHjSo it's about making the translations easily available to the users.20:22
Tm_TGunnarHj: basicly the work that has to be done so translations can be done?20:22
GunnarHjYes.20:22
czajkowskiGunnarHj: are you involved in other areas in the Ubuntu community, such as your locoteam?20:23
GunnarHjI'm a member of the Swedish team, but haven't yet been active there.20:23
czajkowskiso how do you feel Ubuntu membership will help you and the community ? or does it have any effect?20:24
GunnarHjSpent too much time on the dev. stuff, I think.20:24
beunoGunnarHj, a testimonial from pitti is pretty impressice!20:24
beunoand impressive20:24
GunnarHjIt would be a showed appreciation of my contribution, and would likely make me more inclined to keep on and entering new areas of contributions.20:25
czajkowskiGunnarHj: what other areas would you look at20:25
GunnarHjCan't tell right now. You could say that I have been a driver of certain matters, and right now I'm occupied with ensuring that they make it into 12.04.20:27
czajkowskiwhat are they ?20:27
czajkowskiGunnarHj: I'm just trying to ask what areas you'd like to get into in the community20:28
GunnarHjIn summary it's about providing bug free user interfaces for changing languages and settings for regional formats. Those things were buggy in 10.04, and we have gradually god rid of most of the bugs.20:29
beunothat's super valuable work20:29
beunolets vote!20:29
beuno#vote20:29
meetingologyPlease vote on:20:29
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)20:29
GunnarHjOne thing that has made it more complicated is that the underlying architecture has changed.20:29
beuno+120:29
stgraber+120:30
* beuno slaps meetingology 20:30
czajkowski+1 but would like to see other areas explored20:30
Pendulum+120:31
beuno#endbote20:31
beuno#endvote20:31
meetingologyNo vote in progress20:31
beunosorry folks, sucking today at typing20:31
beunoGunnarHj, congrats!20:31
czajkowskiGunnarHj: congrats20:31
GunnarHjThanks! It makes me very happy and flattered. :)20:31
iainfarrell_well done GunnarHj  :)20:31
GunnarHjAnd yes, I will dig in more areas soon.20:31
czajkowskithanks20:32
beunoEgyParadox, you around?20:32
EgyParadoxYes I am here20:32
beunosweet20:32
GunnarHjThanks for you time, guys!20:32
=== vojta_ is now known as vojtech_t
beuno#topic EgyParadox's application20:32
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: EgyParadox's application
beuno#link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EgyParadox20:33
czajkowskiEgyParadox: welcome thanks for coming along20:33
EgyParadox:)20:33
beunoEgyParadox, tell us about yourself20:33
EgyParadoxMy name is Omar Mohsen, I started using Ubuntu about 6 years ago20:34
EgyParadoxI joined the Egyptian LoCo team about 2 years ago20:34
EgyParadoxMy contribution is mainly support through different ways20:35
EgyParadoxthrough IRC, events20:35
EgyParadoxI also administer our social media pages20:36
czajkowskiEgyParadox: so you help grow the locoteam?20:36
EgyParadoxyes czajkowski20:37
czajkowskiEgyParadox: what would you like to do to help your team, and get more people involved in your community ?20:37
EgyParadoxorganize more events20:38
beunoEgyParadox, you're involved in both the Egypt and Malaysian LoCo's?20:39
EgyParadoxI wanted to be involved in the Malaysian LoCo but I no longer live there20:39
beunoah, I see  :)20:39
beunoEgyParadox, got quite a few testimonials as well!20:40
mgamalguys20:40
EgyParadoxI provided IRC support for about 2 years20:40
czajkowskiEgyParadox: last question, what do you plan to do in the future to help your team? anything specific ?20:40
mgamalsorry to interfere20:40
czajkowskimgamal: we're in the middle of an appliction, is it regarding EgyParadox ?20:41
mgamalyes20:41
mgamalI just wanted to say I didn't have time to write my testimonial20:41
mgamalbut I'd like to tell EgyParadox he was such a great team mate in the Egyptian LoCo :)20:41
mgamalhe contributed a lot to the LoCo's social media presence20:42
mgamaland he helped get us about 2000 followers on our FB pages and twitter20:42
czajkowskimgamal: thanks20:43
czajkowskibeuno: ready to vote20:43
beunok20:43
beuno#vote EgyParadox's application20:43
meetingologyPlease vote on: EgyParadox's application20:43
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)20:43
czajkowski+120:43
meetingology+1 received from czajkowski20:43
beuno+120:43
meetingology+1 received from beuno20:43
Pendulum+120:43
meetingology+1 received from Pendulum20:43
stgraber+120:44
meetingology+1 received from stgraber20:44
* beuno tickes stgraber 20:44
* czajkowski pokes beuno end vote20:45
beuno#endvote20:45
meetingologyVoting ended on: EgyParadox's application20:45
meetingologyVotes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:020:45
meetingologyMotion carried20:45
beunocongrats EgyParadox!20:45
czajkowskiTadeasParik: you about ?20:45
TadeasParikyes, I am here20:45
thelinuxercongrats EgyParadox :)20:45
EgyParadoxThanks beuno strgraber Pendulum20:45
beuno#topic TadeasParik's application20:45
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: TadeasParik's application
EgyParadoxThanks thelinuxer20:45
Wazerycongrats EgyParadox :)20:46
beuno#link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TadeasParik20:46
TadeasParikcan I start?20:47
czajkowskiTadeasParik: yup thanks for coming20:47
beunoTadeasParik, yes!20:47
czajkowskiTadeasParik: can you tell us a little bit about yourself ?20:47
czajkowskiplease20:47
TadeasParikok, so my name is Tadeáš Pařík, 26 years old, Prague, Czech republic20:47
TadeasParikI use Ubuntu from 8.04 and from 2008 I am active member of our Czech Ubuntu forum where I help with the standard problems, from this year I am also on Launchpad20:47
TadeasParikfrom 2010 I am active moderator of this forum and from 2011 I am admin of this forum and of all ubuntu official pages in Czech republic (ubuntu.cz, facebook, G+ pages, Czech Ubuntu wiki etc.)20:48
TadeasParikI am especially involved in all official events/meetings/presentations about Ubuntu in the Czech republic (I represented Ubuntu onLinuxExpo conference, there were also other distros and Microsoft)20:48
TadeasParikand also in non official, e.g. we have special Ubuntu beer event in Prague20:49
beunoTadeasParik, have you by any chance met Jenda?20:49
TadeasParikI know him from our forum, but unfortunately he is not active memeber now...20:49
vojtech_tJenda is unfortunately long time inactive20:50
beunoyeah, I know20:50
beunothought maybe he'd still go to the parties for the beer at least :)20:50
TadeasParikI helped to organise two release party in Czech republic, during the first one I was presenting about new Ubuntu 11.04 and for the second one I found the place and I was fronting this action20:51
TadeasParikthere were some articles on Czech IT portals20:51
TadeasParikon Launchpad I am a member of translation team20:52
beunoTadeasParik, you seem to only have one testimonial (although a strong one)20:52
beunois the .cz LoCo small?20:52
TadeasParikso we are preparing czech localization20:52
vojtech_tit's because there are only few active ubunteros in the czech rep.20:52
=== EgyParadox_ is now known as EgyParadox
vojtech_tand i'm the only one active ubuntu member20:52
czajkowskiit's an approved loco20:52
TadeasParikyes, there is only Vojta and me...20:53
czajkowskivojtech_t: you dont have to be an approved member to leave a comment20:53
TadeasParikI mean active members...20:53
czajkowskianyone can leave a testimonal on a wiki page20:53
czajkowskifor an approved loco there are only 2 active members....20:53
beunovojtech_t, so I guess you're a strong supporter of TadeasParik?20:53
vojtech_tczajkowski, we have about 5-10 really active people20:54
TadeasParikfor me it is life's hobby...20:54
vojtech_tbeuno: yes20:54
beunoawesome20:54
beunoTadeasParik, what does the future look like to you?20:54
vojtech_tczajkowski, maybe it's my fault, because i thought only ubuntu members can write testimonials20:54
TadeasParikI would like to finish our Czech localization, now we are preparing next GlobalJam and we started with preparations for Release party...20:55
beunovojtech_t, that's fine, you think there's more fans out there then?20:55
TadeasParikand I would like to find more active people here for our LoCo20:56
beunomaybe we can trick jenda to getting involved again  :)20:56
vojtech_tbeuno, yes, as forum administrator tadeas is really popular20:56
czajkowskibeuno: shall we vote20:57
beunolets!20:57
beuno#vote TadeasParik's application20:57
meetingologyPlease vote on: TadeasParik's application20:57
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)20:57
vojtech_tbeuno: i don't know, he is married, works as lawyer, i think he hasn't much spare time for ubuntu20:57
beuno+1 from me20:57
meetingology+1 from me received from beuno20:57
czajkowski+120:57
meetingology+1 received from czajkowski20:57
Pendulum+120:57
meetingology+1 received from Pendulum20:57
stgraber+120:58
meetingology+1 received from stgraber20:58
beuno#endvote20:58
meetingologyVoting ended on: TadeasParik's application20:58
meetingologyVotes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:020:58
meetingologyMotion carried20:58
beunoTadeasParik, welcome  \o/20:58
vojtech_tcongrats20:58
iainfarrell_yay :)20:58
TadeasParikthanks a lot!!20:58
iainfarrell_well done TadeasParik20:58
czajkowskiTadeasParik: well done20:59
beunovibhav, you're the last one on the list, but I think the concerns from the Americas board still stand 2 weeks later20:59
vibhavTadeasParik: congrats20:59
beunovibhav, I'd take them into consideration and re-apply in a few months20:59
vibhavWell , Actually , interaction is something I fail at21:00
beunoand with that21:00
beuno#endmeeting21:00
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Feb  7 21:00:18 2012 UTC.21:00
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-02-07-20.02.moin.txt21:00
vibhavThats why I chose translations21:00
czajkowskivibhav: I beleive you can still interact within the community online and with translations21:00
czajkowskinobody said you have to meet in RL21:00
beunovibhav, right, it's really hard to be part of a community if you're not good at interacting21:00
vibhavczajkowski: Thats what I do21:00
beunocongrats again iainfarrell_, GunnarHj, EgyParadox, TadeasParik21:01
vibhavI have been translating for the past 7 months21:01
vibhavhttps://launchpad.net/~vibhavp/+karma21:01
iainfarrell_thanks21:01
czajkowskiiainfarrell_: thanks21:01
czajkowskistgraber: you about21:01
TadeasParikbeuno, thank you21:02
GunnarHjThanks again, folks!21:02
iainfarrell_thanks beuno and czajkowski :)21:02
iainfarrell_and have a great evening everyone :)21:02
* vibhav goes to sleep21:03
pangolinvibhav: keep up the good work and try to get more involved with your loco and the loco channel, talk to the existing team lead and see if there is anything you can do to help them increase Ubuntu usage.21:04

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