[09:05]  * cielak is back (gone 10:06:56)
[11:46] <Vivek> Hi
[16:00] <hallyn> \o
[16:00] <jamespage> o/
[16:00] <Daviey> Hola
[16:00] <m_3> o/
[16:00] <rbasak> \o
[16:00] <justinlw> bon jour
[16:00] <utlemming> o/
[16:00] <arosales> Hello
[16:01] <Daviey> Ursinha: I think you are driving the chair! :)
[16:01] <Ursinha> me?
[16:01] <Ursinha> I have another meeting in the meantime...
[16:01] <Ursinha> but I can try to heavy multitask :)
[16:01] <lynxman> o/
[16:02] <Daviey> Ursinha: defer to next week i guess?
[16:02] <Daviey> smoser, you are next in line :)
[16:02] <Ursinha> Daviey, I'll always have this meeting but sure, I can try :)
[16:02] <Daviey> Ursinha: You have a standing, clashing meeting?
[16:02] <roaksoax> o/
[16:03] <zul> jambo
[16:03] <Ursinha> Daviey, there is the desktop meeting, but I can surely try mext week :)
[16:04] <koolhead17> hi
[16:04] <Daviey> *sigh*
[16:04] <Daviey> utlemming: looks like smoser is /away, that puts you in line of fire.
[16:04] <Daviey> Can you kick off?
[16:05] <utlemming> yeah, give me a minute to pull up the meeting minutes and stuff
[16:05] <smoser> hm..
[16:05] <smoser> i can do this.
[16:05] <smoser> i'm not away.
[16:06] <smoser> unfortunately
[16:06] <Ursinha> haha
[16:06] <utlemming> either/or, smoser, you're call
[16:06] <rbasak> This is like musical chairs!
[16:06] <smoser> i'd rather take it now.
[16:06] <Daviey> smoser: go
[16:06] <smoser> #start-meeting ubuntu-server-team
[16:06] <smoser> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team
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[16:06] <utlemming> smoser: we need to welcome Justinlw to the Server team
[16:07] <smoser> [TOPIC] Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:07] <smoser>  * jamespage to get juju MIR's added to server precise release tracking
[16:07] <smoser> jamespage, ^
[16:07] <jamespage> smoser: done
[16:07] <jamespage> ta Daviey
[16:07] <smoser> moving on
[16:07] <arosales> welcome justinlw! :-)
[16:07] <smoser> [TOPIC] Precise Development
[16:07]  * justinlw nods, waves
[16:07] <Daviey> Feature Freeze next Thursday, anything outstanding?
[16:07]  * smoser is not ignoring that, just figured it was more "open discussion" or some other section than 'review action points'
[16:08] <arosales> smoser: roger, I just jumped the gun
[16:08] <rbasak> I should get my openmpi test builds done before then
[16:08] <Daviey> rbasak: Great.. rbasak, can you raise a warning this time next week if not?
[16:08] <rbasak> will do
[16:09] <Daviey> maas will be uploaded this Thursday, pending review.
[16:09] <Daviey> Anything else of concern?
[16:09] <hallyn> we really want apparmor mount controls before ff
[16:09] <rbasak> Also from my end, console fifo patch into nova? Is that a feature?
[16:09] <hallyn> and netcf in main, and enabled in libvirt
[16:09] <Daviey> hallyn: Does that have a bug?  Dangers it won't be reached?
[16:09] <zul> rbasak: yeah ill stick in today
[16:09] <hallyn> Daviey: it has bugs depending on it, but no explicit bug
[16:09] <hallyn> jjohansen would know what danger of not being reached is right now.
[16:10] <rbasak> Cool, thanks zul!
[16:10] <hallyn> i know he has a lot to juggle, not sure where it's at
[16:10] <Daviey> hallyn: ok, i'll discuss it in -server after the meeting.
[16:10] <hallyn> ok
[16:10] <Daviey> smoser: Do you want to itterate over the todo bugs?
[16:10] <smoser> i can..
[16:10] <smoser> link ?
[16:10] <Daviey> http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html
[16:11] <smoser> bug 924739
[16:11] <adam_g> i helped triage that one
[16:11] <smoser> yeah... and i think its significant.
[16:11] <adam_g> but am unsure of a solution, and was hoping we might be able to discuss the squid3 transition in forum
[16:11] <smoser> i'm not sure what we've done on transition of other packages before.
[16:11] <smoser> i'm assuming there is good prior art
[16:11] <Daviey> adam_g: do you have capacity to drive it, or is it better with roaksoax ?
[16:12] <smoser> but ending up with no running proxy seems not so nice.
[16:12] <adam_g> Daviey: i'd be happy to look into possible solutions if someone can point me toward other packages that have gone through similar transitions in the past, where config files have moved to different locations with new syntax
[16:13] <Daviey> adam_g: okay, lets take it to -server, after.
[16:13] <adam_g> Daviey: +1
[16:13] <smoser> bug 883988
[16:13] <adam_g> smoser: theres still no movement on that, i was hoping it'd be fixed during their bug squashing day but there still seems to be disagreement among developers up stream on how to handle database migrations.
[16:13] <smoser> adam_g, should you just dupe that ?
[16:14] <adam_g> smoser: yeah, there was a lot of conversion about hte issue on another bug last week, ill try to find that add a link as well
[16:14] <smoser> you put a reference in the bug
[16:14] <Daviey> adam_g: can you open discussion with upstream and see what we should do?
[16:14] <smoser> bug 779311
[16:15] <adam_g> Daviey: yeah
[16:15] <smoser> bug 893926
[16:15] <Daviey> I'll follow up with the assignee
[16:17] <smoser> k
[16:17] <smoser> bug 911812
[16:17] <Daviey> roaksoax: ?
[16:17] <roaksoax> Daviey: adam_g was working on it and AFAIK he requested access to the arm cluster to work on it
[16:17] <Daviey> ahh
[16:18] <roaksoax> Daviey: though it was determined that upstream contains the fix for it, we just need to SRU
[16:18] <Daviey> rbasak: Do you think you could chime in?
[16:18] <smoser> adam_g, refute or deny in #ubuntu-server
[16:18] <smoser> bug 913009
[16:18]  * smoser will do that after this meeting.
[16:18] <adam_g> roaksoax: please continue on with that one, i only was able to confirm its at least fixed in the current release
[16:18] <smoser> meant to do it this morning
[16:18] <smoser> bug 914392
[16:18] <Daviey> git bisect ++
[16:19] <rbasak> adam_g, roaksoax, Daviey: I'm happy to test on my panda, just let me know
[16:19] <smoser> branch is still under review there. maybe hazmat can ping a bit.
[16:19] <roaksoax> adam_g: will sure do.
[16:19] <roaksoax> rbasak: will prepare SRU's and give them for you to test!
[16:19]  * smoser will ping hazmat and beg.
[16:19] <smoser> bug 923681
[16:20] <Daviey> i think that wants input from zul
[16:20] <smoser> that seems somewhat significant
[16:20] <zul> from me?
[16:20] <Daviey> it's a Conflicts issue.
[16:20] <Daviey> see comment #2
[16:21] <smoser> zul, please take a look.
[16:21] <smoser> bug 850443
[16:21] <zul> smoser: ack
[16:21] <smoser> Daviey, did you think that was going to get fixed upstream?
[16:21] <rbasak> 914392 will cause big issues for arm if it doesn't get fixed
[16:21] <Daviey> smoser: NFI
[16:21] <rbasak> bug 914392
[16:22] <smoser> rbasak, it willg et fixed.
[16:22] <smoser> bug 898840
[16:22] <Daviey> smoser: there is a patch we can steal
[16:22] <Daviey> (proposed upstream, wanted to wait for it to be applied.)
[16:23] <Daviey> roaksoax: bug 898840 ?
[16:23] <smoser> ah. to eventlit.
[16:23] <roaksoax> Daviey: ready to merge
[16:23] <smoser> Daviey, so should that be closed on openstack-compute ?
[16:23] <roaksoax> Daviey: though holding it till I succesfully test the maas
[16:24] <Daviey> roaksoax: just land it for orchestra, we'll adjust for next version
[16:24] <smoser> well... i'll poke a bit.
[16:24] <roaksoax> Daviey: cool then
[16:24] <Daviey> smoser: It's unclear.. I'd leave the task open for a bt
[16:24] <smoser> k
[16:24] <smoser> bug 880339
[16:25] <smoser> roaksoax,
[16:25] <Daviey> SpamapS might like to add his thoughts?
[16:25] <roaksoax> Daviey: it was marked invalid as I couldn't reproduce it
[16:25] <roaksoax> Daviey: it was just re-openfor what I can see
[16:25] <roaksoax> Daviey: will look into it again
[16:25] <Daviey> With the current discussion going on RE: mysql - that bug might need adjusting
[16:25] <Daviey> cool
[16:26] <smoser> move on?
[16:26] <smoser> bug 875262
[16:26] <Daviey> SpamapS: ^^ working with koolhead17 ?
[16:26] <koolhead17> i got help on this from SpamapS
[16:26] <smoser> ok. and its targetted to beta-1. good job koolhead17
[16:27] <SpamapS> sorry I've been away
[16:27] <smoser> bug 904681
[16:27] <SpamapS> Daviey: re the mysql bug.. its been pending for a while.. simple fix. I think there's a dupe in mysql-5.5 that is marked High
[16:27] <Daviey> I think oversized is fixed?
[16:27]  * Daviey checks
[16:28] <Daviey> https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Precise/job/precise-server-amd64_minimal-virtual/
[16:28] <smoser> Daviey, where are you checking? just for those who are playing the home-game
[16:28] <Daviey> woot
[16:28] <smoser> thanks
[16:28] <koolhead17> also Daviey for 875262 there is big merge coming so SpamapS suggested me to hold on :P
[16:28] <SpamapS> re PHP, I've asked koolhead17 to lay off, given the weirdness coming from Debian
[16:28] <smoser> ok. good. so it seems we're on-target there. thank you SpamapS and koolhead17
[16:28] <smoser> bug 906654
[16:28] <SpamapS> I had given up on php 5.4.0 , but some folks have privately asked me to take a second look at it
[16:29] <Daviey> zul: ^^ ?
[16:29] <Daviey> SpamapS: sounds good.
[16:29] <SpamapS> There's a discussion happening today in the Debian php group about suhosin also
[16:29] <smoser> well, per adam_g
[16:29] <smoser> Note: This will likely be marked invalid soon, as the openstackx library is soon to be marked deprecated and removed in favor of python-novaclient.
[16:30] <adam_g> smoser: yes, thats still true. id like to confirm whether or not thats actually happened yet
[16:30] <adam_g> smoser: will mark the bug invalid as soon as i can do that
[16:30] <smoser> adam_g, yeah. thanks.
[16:30] <Daviey> oh, nice
[16:30] <smoser> bug 907197
[16:30] <zul> Daviey: openstackx has already removed from horizon
[16:30] <smoser> zul you want to lok at that? i can take a quick look also
[16:30] <adam_g> zul: what about in nova?
[16:30] <zul> smoser:  please
[16:31] <smoser> (but in my opinion,that is extremely low importance)
[16:31] <zul> adam_g: i think its gone as well
[16:31] <smoser> i fear i'm going to get sick to my stomach looking from reading the stack trace though
[16:31] <smoser> yuck
[16:31] <smoser> bug 879666
[16:32] <Daviey> rbasak: ^6 ?
[16:33] <Daviey> did you patch get re-added?  zul ?
[16:33] <rbasak> zul is taking this for precise; I have yet to rebase my patch for oneiric
[16:33] <zul> Daviey: working on it now
[16:33] <Daviey> cool
[16:33] <smoser> k
[16:33] <smoser> bug 916489
[16:33] <zul> rbasak: ill do oneiric as well
[16:33] <smoser> lynxman,
[16:33] <rbasak> thanks zul!
[16:34]  * rbasak owes zul a beer
[16:34] <Daviey> jamespage: How is lynxman's ipxe upload?
[16:34] <lynxman> smoser: still need to finish some comments on the new ipxe package, as soon as those are done this bug will be fixed
[16:34] <zul> rbasak: more than one
[16:34] <smoser> lynxman, gracias
[16:34] <Daviey> lynxman: can this be done by EoW?
[16:34] <smoser> bug 924375
[16:34]  * smoser waits on lynxman
[16:34] <smoser> cloud-init bug i'll have that fixed in cloud-init by feature freeze.
[16:34] <lynxman> Daviey: will try but cant say
[16:35] <smoser> bug 926160
[16:35] <Daviey> smoser: you are king.
[16:35] <Daviey> lynxman: We are depending on you :)
[16:35] <smoser> utlemming, can i assign that to you for further invfestigation?
[16:35] <utlemming> smoser: yup
[16:36] <smoser> take a look at that bug, it is interesting.
[16:36] <lynxman> Daviey: I have zero allowance from management on this one, will try to push a nighter to do it :)
[16:36] <smoser> the 'du --apparent-size' of / on oneiric and precise is very similar, but 'df' reports a completely different story.
[16:36] <smoser> bug 833499
[16:36] <smoser> i dont think that is going to get fixed up stream unless one of us do it.
[16:37] <smoser> and i think it'd be a feature request too...
[16:37] <smoser> so..
[16:37] <smoser> i tihnk we should take it off this list for essex/precise. its low enough priority with the cloud-init work around
[16:37] <smoser> Daviey, ?
[16:37] <smoser> bug 901881
[16:37] <Daviey> smoser: how importiant?
[16:38] <smoser> low at best
[16:38] <Daviey> smoser: it's not a feature IMO
[16:38] <Daviey> smoser: lets utrack it.
[16:38] <smoser> it is a feature from openstack perspective.
[16:38] <Daviey> untack
[16:39] <smoser> that bug is fix-released
[16:39] <smoser> why is it in this list?
[16:39] <smoser> er... why is ther ea glace task
[16:39] <smoser> adam_g, ?
[16:39] <Daviey> smoser: glance has the same bug
[16:40] <Daviey> the title doesn't reflect it
[16:40] <smoser> ah. k. so who is driving that fix?
[16:40] <Daviey> zul: Did you say there was a pending upload?
[16:40] <Daviey> (which should now be in the archive?)
[16:41] <zul> still waiting for keystonelight
[16:41] <adam_g> isn't keystone is still going thru MIR, probably a new MIR?
[16:41] <Daviey> zul: uh?
[16:41] <Daviey> glance is blocked on keystonelight?
[16:41] <zul> it shouldnt be and isnt
[16:41] <zul> keystone needs a new security review as well
[16:41]  * Daviey confused.
[16:41] <zul> as am i
[16:42] <zul> can we talk about it after the meeting?
[16:42] <Daviey> zul: k
[16:42] <zul> still juggling alot of plates
[16:42] <smoser> bug 889644
[16:42] <smoser> that has the honorable rbasak assigned
[16:42] <rbasak> I can't remember if this has progressed since last week.
[16:42] <Daviey> smoser: i read that as horrible !
[16:42] <smoser> k. please poke at it a bit and see if you can't make it do so.
[16:43] <rbasak> I have a PPA build that succeeds. Need to try rdepend builds against it next.
[16:43] <rbasak> Readers should note that I have no means of actually testing any of these packages apart from that they build.
[16:43] <smoser> Daviey, if you dont have anything nice to say dont say anything at all
[16:43] <Daviey> rbasak: if it compiles, lets ship it :)
[16:43] <rbasak> I'd appreciate input from stakeholders on testing - otherwise they won't get tested.
[16:43] <smoser> bug 887186
[16:44] <smoser> rbasak, make sure you just ask the opener for testing your ppa build.
[16:44] <smoser> roaksoax, ^
[16:44] <rbasak> opener?
[16:44] <smoser> ah. oh yeah, dave walker was opener.
[16:45] <smoser> regarding squid proxy, there is a thread on an internal canonical mailing list that i tihnk might get orchestra-proxy moving in a different manner.
[16:45] <smoser> or at least help us collect some information.
[16:45] <Daviey> smoser: we should probably move on?
[16:45] <smoser> yep
[16:45] <roaksoax> smoser: upstream issue
[16:45] <smoser> roaksoax, pleaes open upstream bug or task then ?
[16:45] <roaksoax> smoser: i'm yet unsuare whether we should have a newer upstream release which supposedly fixes that
[16:46] <smoser> k.
[16:46] <smoser> well poke a bit please.
[16:46] <roaksoax> due to the latest issues we've been experiencing
[16:46] <roaksoax> smoser: will do
[16:46] <smoser> i think thats all we hae vor this section
[16:46] <smoser> thank fully
[16:46] <smoser> [TOPIC] Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:46] <smoser> anyone have anything here?
[16:47] <smoser> k. looks like nothing.
[16:47] <Daviey> Thankfully, no
[16:47] <smoser> me moving on.
[16:47] <smoser> hggdh,
[16:47] <smoser> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
[16:48] <smoser> i'll just state here that the openstack jenkins stuff is awesome.
[16:48] <smoser> big round of applause to adam_g zul jamespage
[16:48] <arosales> +1
[16:48] <smb> \o/
[16:48] <smoser> and surely others that I am missing and who can swear at me later.
[16:49] <smoser> for the reference: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Precise%20OpenStack%20Testing/
[16:49] <koolhead17> adam_g: i need the doc though 4 charm deployment :P
[16:49] <smoser> smb, is up  now
[16:49] <Daviey> \o/
[16:49] <smoser> [TOPIC]
[16:49] <smoser> Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
[16:49] <smb>  * Trying to hunt down why libvirt-bin needs to be restarted before it
[16:49] <smb>    gives me running domU's, I first removed all the other error sources
[16:49] <smb>    from the logs. One was my fault of experimenting with qemu-dm paths.
[16:49] <smb>  * Other source was libvirt insisting in running pm-is-supported from
[16:49] <smb>    pm-utils without insisting (depending) on installing it.
[16:49] <smb>    Question is that pebcak or something worth adding to libvirt-bin's
[16:49] <smb>    runtime dependencies?
[16:49] <smb>  * Currently looking at remoteDispatchNumOfDomainsHelper which should
[16:49] <smb>    give one the IDs of guests but only seems to do that after restarting
[16:49] <smb>    libvirtd. The call to remoteDispatchNumOfDefinedDomainsHelper on the
[16:49] <smb>    other hand works all the time.
[16:49] <smb> ..
[16:50] <smoser> smb, it was failing ?
[16:50] <smoser> i really cant see that (libvirt due to pm-is-supported)
[16:50] <smb> smoser, No, that was just cluttering the log
[16:50] <smoser> i'm almost certain i've run vms on generally headless systems. if it fails, please open a bug. if it just warns, then suggests or recommends is probably right.
[16:50] <smb> So its more cosmetical
[16:50] <smoser> cosmetical
[16:50] <smoser> nice.
[16:51] <smoser> smb, well i dont have anything for you.
[16:51] <smoser> but i am remembering this bug
[16:51] <Daviey> smb: Have a bug number?
[16:51]  * smb likes the sound of that
[16:51] <Daviey> smoser is off form.
[16:51] <smoser> bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/898373
[16:52] <smb> Daviey, Not for the pm-utils dependency. I was not sure this is really that important
[16:52] <smoser> that is not related to kernel, but Daviey probably should be tracked
[16:52] <smoser> i'll get it into a beter state, updated with the info i have in my head
[16:52] <smoser> and one other bug will come out of it
[16:52] <smb> smoser, Hm, not sure I remember that one
[16:52] <smoser> smb, not kernel related.
[16:52] <smoser> just was thinking about it as i was thinking of "why does ec2 suck sometimes"
[16:53] <smoser> as usually i blame smb for that ;)
[16:53] <smb> heh :)
[16:53] <Daviey> Aww, meanie
[16:53] <smoser> ARM!
[16:53] <smoser> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)
[16:53] <Daviey> rbasak: have you fixed ARM?
[16:54] <smoser> i have some stuff to fill in here if rbasak does not type in 3
[16:54] <smoser> 2
[16:54] <smoser> 1
[16:54] <smoser> it looks like we're going to move the cloud-images output for arm from armel to armhf.
[16:54]  * justinlw yay
[16:54] <jamespage> \o/
[16:54] <Daviey> smoser: seems to make sense to me
[16:54] <rbasak> Sorry, pee break
[16:54] <Daviey> utlemming: ?
[16:54] <smoser> as, other than oracle's jvm, nothing really needs soft float
[16:54] <rbasak> Yeah, it's fixed. You do mean my panda, right? :)
[16:55] <smoser> and rbasak claims that we can potentially still support that with multi-arch
[16:55] <Daviey> smoser: hmm, oracle's jvm doesn't work with armel?
[16:55] <Daviey> err, armhf
[16:55] <smoser> only with armel
[16:55] <jamespage> not yet
[16:55] <Daviey> that is suck.
[16:55] <utlemming> robie had some thoughts about multi-arch there
[16:55] <Daviey> ok
[16:55] <rbasak> In that it should in theory work
[16:56] <smoser> theories are always nice to have
[16:56] <utlemming> but its not tested
[16:56] <smoser> anything else?
[16:56] <jamespage> speaking of java on arm; openjdk on precise has now switched back to the zero JVM with the thumb2 intepreter
[16:56] <rbasak> But it looks like armhf (gnueabihf) will be the ARM server standard
[16:56] <smoser> darn
[16:56] <rbasak> So Oracle would be crazy to not support it.
[16:56] <Daviey> lets progress, seems in hand.
[16:56] <smoser> [TOPIC] Open Discussion
[16:56] <jamespage> it passes the Java TCK so if currently the best we have in archive
[16:56] <smoser> now HERE is where utlemming or arosales could chime in
[16:57] <arosales> :-)
[16:57] <jamespage> I have something!
[16:57] <Daviey> jamespage: we all do
[16:57]  * SpamapS hopes its a pony
[16:57] <rbasak> Welcome justinlw!
[16:57] <smoser> welcome justinlw
[16:57] <arosales> wecome justinlw :-)
[16:57] <adam_g> welcome!
[16:57] <SpamapS> justinlw: AHOY!
[16:57] <Daviey> justinlw: Fancy introducing yourself?
[16:57] <utlemming> +1
[16:58]  * justinlw Came from Amazon KaOS & EC2 (worked w/utlemming).
[16:58] <Daviey> exciting!
[16:58] <koolhead17> is justinlw now with canonical?
[16:58]  * justinlw Have done some work w/Calxeda Qemu and am becoming ARM (semi)Literate
[16:58] <justinlw> koolhead17: yes
[16:59] <koolhead17> cool
[16:59]  * justinlw will be tugging on sleeeves for some ramp-up work-flow, etc. help
[16:59] <smoser> anything else?
[16:59]  * justinlw kind to puppies
[16:59] <smoser> other wise...
[16:59]  * SpamapS will be happy to turn the fire hose on justinlw now
[16:59] <SpamapS> ok
[16:59] <SpamapS> we should be done now
[16:59] <Daviey> lets go home!
[16:59] <smoser> please all join us next week
[16:59] <smoser> at this same time
[16:59] <smoser> same channel
[16:59] <justinlw> l8r
[16:59] <Daviey> for another exciting installment
[16:59] <smoser> [TOPIC] Announce next meeting date and time
[16:59] <Daviey> etc
[17:00] <Daviey> smoser: Who si chair next week?
[17:00] <smoser> $NOW + 7*24*60*60-60*60
[17:00] <smoser> next weeks chair is not me
[17:00] <smoser> looks like utlemming
[17:00] <SpamapS> Heh.. not me, but come march when DST starts I'll be chair for like 6 straight weeks :-P
[17:00] <Daviey> SpamapS: happy times.
[17:00] <zul> as it should be
[17:00] <smoser> although urshina doesn't move herself off the top of the list
[17:00] <smoser> so...
[17:01] <smoser> really...
[17:01] <Ursinha> I can do that
[17:01] <smoser> you only have to do it if you dont want to chair indefinitely
[17:01] <smoser> :)
[17:01] <smoser> #endmeeting
[17:01] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Feb  7 17:01:30 2012 UTC.
[17:01] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-02-07-16.06.moin.txt
[17:01] <smoser> thank you, and good night.
[17:01] <Ursinha> lol
[17:01] <jamespage> cheerio folks!
[17:01] <Ursinha> thanks smb
[17:01] <Ursinha> oops
[17:01] <Ursinha> smoser,
[17:01] <Ursinha> smb as well :P
[17:01] <arosales> thanks smoser
[17:01]  * smb always takes any thanks he can get :)
[17:02] <jsalisbury> #startmeeting
[17:02] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:02] <jsalisbury> ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting.
[17:02] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting
[17:02] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Feb  7 17:02:00 2012 UTC.  The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[17:02] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Precise
[17:02] <jsalisbury> # Meeting Etiquette
[17:02] <jsalisbury> #
[17:02] <jsalisbury> # NOTE: '..' indicates that you are finished with your input.
[17:02] <jsalisbury> #       'o/' indicates you have something to add (please wait until you are recognized)
[17:02] <jsalisbury> Roll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting
[17:02] <tgardner> o/
[17:02] <herton> o/
[17:02] <smb> ßo
[17:02] <ppisati> o/
[17:02] <apw> o/
[17:02] <ogasawara> o/
[17:02] <bjf> \o/
[17:02] <sforshee> o/
[17:02] <cking> o/
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)
[17:02] <ppisati> UUID support: Found a way to support an initrd-less kernel using GPT, an hybrid mbr and the ROOTUUID boot parameter, kernel seems to be good already.
[17:02] <ppisati> lp709245 ("ARM SMP scheduler performance bug"): Still bisecting latest P kernel trying to find where the fix for this issue has been embedded in the TI BSP - whenever i turn on the the corresponding upstream errata (PL310_ERRATA_769419) the kernel hangs on boot, so there must be a previous patch clashing in there. Now i'm down to a ~160 commits window.
[17:02] <ppisati> P/omap4: Nothing new to report this week.
[17:03] <ppisati> ..
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)
[17:03] <jsalisbury> Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt
[17:03] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)
[17:03] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-kernel-distro-team-ubuntu-12.04-beta-1.html
[17:03] <ogasawara> || apw        || hardware-p-kernel-boot                || 2 work items ||
[17:03] <ogasawara> ||            || hardware-p-kernel-config-review       || 3 work items ||
[17:03] <ogasawara> ||            || hardware-p-kernel-delta-review        || 2 work items ||
[17:03] <ogasawara> || ogasawara  || hardware-p-kernel-config-review       || 4 work items ||
[17:03] <ogasawara> || sconklin   || servercloud-p-ceph                    || 1 work item  ||
[17:03] <ogasawara> || tgardner   || hardware-p-kernel-delta-review        || 1 work item  ||
[17:03] <ogasawara> If your name is in the above table, please review your Beta-1 work items.
[17:03] <ogasawara> ..
[17:04] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Blueprint: hardware-p-kernel-power-management (cking)
[17:04] <cking> Power Management:
[17:04] <cking>  * CPU governor testing (Intel only) (will test AMD CPUs later)
[17:04] <cking>    http://zinc.canonical.com/~cking/power-benchmarking/cpu-governor/results.txt
[17:04] <cking> ..
[17:04] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Precise Development Kernel (ogasawara)
[17:04] <ogasawara> Last week we rebased to v3.2.4 and uploaded.  We've recently rebased to v3.2.5 and plan to upload shortly.  Note that Beta-1 is on the horizon with Beta Freeze approximately 2 weeks away.  We'll be prepping our Beta-1 kernel next week.  If there are any patches which need to land, submit them now.
[17:04] <ogasawara> I'd like to also note that we've opened the Q git repo for anyone interested (git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-q.git).  At this time, it is strictly for development/testing purposes only and will not be supported until Q officially opens in the archive.
[17:04] <ogasawara> Important upcoming dates:
[17:04] <ogasawara>  * Thurs Feb 23 - Beta Freeze (~2 weeks)
[17:04] <ogasawara>  * Thurs Mar 01 - Beta 1
[17:04] <ogasawara> ..
[17:05] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (apw)
[17:05] <apw> Currently we have 73 CVEs on our radar, six new CVEs were added this week.
[17:05] <apw> See the CVE matrix for the current list:
[17:05] <apw>  
[17:05] <apw> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html
[17:05] <apw>  
[17:05] <apw> Overall we have pushed the backlog down by approximatly 2 CVEs this week:
[17:05] <apw>  
[17:05] <apw> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt
[17:05] <apw> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt
[17:05] <apw>  
[17:05] <apw> We have also pushed another CVE back to security for review.  This backlog
[17:05] <apw> is increasing.
[17:05] <apw>  
[17:05] <apw> ..
[17:06] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Oneiric/Natty/Maverick/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton)
[17:06] <bjf> Here is the status for the main kernels, until today (Jan. 24):
[17:06] <bjf>  
[17:06] <bjf>  * Hardy - 2.6.24-30.98
[17:06] <bjf>   * Nothing new this cycle.
[17:06] <bjf>  
[17:06] <bjf>  * Lucid - 2.6.32-38.85
[17:06] <bjf>   * Proposed is frozen due to 10.04.4 prep.
[17:06] <bjf>  
[17:06] <bjf>  * Maverick - 2.6.35-32.65
[17:06] <bjf>   * Regression testing.
[17:06] <bjf>  
[17:06] <bjf>  * Natty - 2.6.38-13.55
[17:06] <bjf>   * Regression testing.
[17:06] <bjf>             
[17:06] <bjf>  * Oneiric - 3.0.0-16.27
[17:06] <bjf>   * Regression testing.
[17:06] <bjf>  
[17:06] <bjf> Current opened tracking bugs details:
[17:06] <bjf>  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html
[17:06] <bjf>   
[17:06] <bjf> For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:
[17:06] <bjf>  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html
[17:06] <bjf>  
[17:06] <bjf> Future stable cadence cycles:
[17:06] <bjf>  * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseInterlock
[17:06] <bjf> ..
[17:06] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
[17:07] <jsalisbury> OK, Thanks everyone
[17:07] <jsalisbury> #endmeeting
[17:07] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Feb  7 17:07:59 2012 UTC.
[17:07] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-02-07-17.02.moin.txt
[19:24] <cancer> when is the meeting going to be held according to IST
[19:40] <czajkowski> highvoltage: stgraber meeting reminder
[19:41] <vibhav> Is today the EMEA meeting?
[19:42] <TadeasParik> vibhav, It should be, I hope :)
[19:42] <czajkowski> yes in less than 20 mins
[19:43]  * vibhav gives everybody popcorn
[19:43] <stgraber> czajkowski: highvoltage won't be there. "19:14 < highvoltage> stgraber: could you pleade pass my excuses to the emra rmb meeting? Im running hopelessly late"
[19:44] <czajkowski> stgraber: cheers, dont see iulian or drubin  yet
[19:45] <vibhav> Its 1:15 Am here
[19:45] <czajkowski> vibhav: aye times don't always work for people, but it's one meeting and hopefully worth it
[19:46] <beuno> we should get sponsored by a coffee company
[19:46] <vibhav> hahaha
[19:46] <czajkowski> beuno: TEA!
[19:48] <beuno> well, if you really want to stay awake, I suggest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_%28beverage%29
[19:49] <vibhav> both cold and hot water extractions of popular commercial yerba mate products contained high levels (8.03 to 53.3 ng/g dry leaves) of carcinogenic polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons
[19:52] <iainfarrell_> sounds like a dangerous scientific mix :)
[19:52] <iainfarrell_> hi everyone
[19:52] <vibhav> This. Is. It.
[19:52]  * vibhav wishes everybody good luck
[19:53]  * iainfarrell_ rather hopes he won't need it :)
[19:53]  * iainfarrell_ crosses fingers and toes
[19:54] <czajkowski> ogra_: stgraber drubin  ping
[19:54] <czajkowski> beuno: we may need you also
[19:55] <knome> oh, it's thee iainfarrell_ :)
[19:55] <beuno> sure thing
[19:55]  * jussi hides from knome
[19:55]  * vibhav googles knome
[19:55] <iainfarrell_> hey knome  :)
[19:55] <knome> hai!
[19:55] <iainfarrell_> it is if that's a good thing
[19:55]  * iainfarrell_ changes name
[19:56] <iainfarrell_> :)
[19:56] <czajkowski> hmm dinner is late and going to be delievered mid meeting, joy!
[19:56] <knome> hah, hei jussi :P
[19:56] <vibhav> oh , thats a nick
[19:57] <vibhav> its almost time
[19:58] <iainfarrell_> vibhav, do you know something we don't? :)
[19:58] <iainfarrell_> sounds serious
[19:58] <knome> iainfarrell_, EMEA board meeting?
[19:58] <vibhav> yeah
[19:58] <beuno> vibhav, it seems you applied to the Americas board a few weeks ago
[19:58] <iainfarrell_> knome, yeah, was kidding, I meant the tone  :)
[19:58] <knome> ;)
[19:59] <vibhav> beuno: yeah  , BUt they turned me down because I was not attending FOSS events
[19:59] <vibhav> But now I updated my wiki
[19:59] <knome> iainfarrell_, btw... finally released some days ago: http://xubuntu.org/
[19:59] <beuno> vibhav, so I think the reasons you didn't get membership still apply, 2 weeks later
[19:59] <iainfarrell_> knome, cool!
[20:00] <iainfarrell_> knome, nice to see it up and running, we're running it on a server in the office at the moment
[20:00] <knome> iainfarrell_, yeah (and thanks)! we were quite excited about it, and now it's finally ready. now to fix the content though... ;)
[20:00] <vibhav> beuno: Could I PM you?
[20:00] <knome> iainfarrell_, hah, then don't kick it around :P
[20:01] <czajkowski> vibhav: this is the opion of the others on the board also vibhav
[20:01] <beuno> vibhav, you can, but this is involves the whole board  :)
[20:01] <czajkowski> beuno: can you chair ?
[20:01] <iainfarrell_> knome, well I won't
[20:01] <czajkowski> *pretty* please!
[20:01] <iainfarrell_> a colleague will
[20:01] <beuno> yes I can
[20:01] <beuno> if I remember all the right commands!
[20:01] <knome> iainfarrell_, ah, yeah, delegating... :)
[20:01] <iainfarrell_> knome, to someone who knows what a server is ;)
[20:01] <pangolin> The reason was not because you were not attending physical events, they wanted to see more participation with other users. attending/helping with events was just one of the things they suggested
[20:01]  * knome will shut up to give way to the meeting
[20:02] <czajkowski> ok ok folks can we please start the meeting
[20:02] <czajkowski> and leave the jibber jabber for a but
[20:02] <czajkowski> *bit
[20:02] <knome> iainfarrell_, feel free to chat around @ #xubuntu-devel if interested ;)
[20:02]  * knome zips mouth
[20:02] <pangolin> ^
[20:02]  * vibhav sips coffee
[20:02] <beuno> alright, lets get this party started
[20:02] <beuno> #startmeering
[20:02] <beuno> bad start
[20:02] <beuno> #startmeeting
[20:02] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Feb  7 20:02:53 2012 UTC.  The chair is beuno. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[20:02] <iainfarrell_> LOL
[20:03]  * stgraber waves
[20:03] <vibhav> ^
[20:03] <vibhav> ^^^
[20:03] <beuno> iainfarrell_, you seem to be up first!
[20:03] <czajkowski> ok let see if we have enough
[20:03]  * knome waves to stgraber, but very silently
[20:03] <iainfarrell_> indeed :)
[20:03] <czajkowski> stgraber: Pendulum myself and beuno
[20:03] <czajkowski> yup
[20:04] <beuno> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/EMEA
[20:04] <beuno> iainfarrell_, tell us about yourself!
[20:05] <czajkowski> iainfarrell_: welcome, thanks for making it, I know you;ve been on this list now since october! :)
[20:05] <iainfarrell_> well beuno and others
[20:05] <beuno> #topic iainfarrell's application
[20:05] <iainfarrell_> My name's Iain and I've been an Ubuntu user full time I'd say for about 3 years
[20:05] <iainfarrell_> and played before that
[20:05] <iainfarrell_> as an aside I recently started playing Eve online
[20:05] <beuno> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IainFarrell
[20:05] <iainfarrell_> and last time I tried it
[20:05] <iainfarrell_> it was so hard
[20:05] <iainfarrell_> I stopped playing
[20:05] <iainfarrell_> and instead installed this new distro
[20:05] <iainfarrell_> raved about on Digg
[20:05] <iainfarrell_> called Ubuntu :)
[20:06] <iainfarrell_> and that's what I love about it, it just works
[20:06] <iainfarrell_> and this community is exciting and I want to stay a part of it
[20:06] <iainfarrell_> even though I no longer work for Canonical
[20:06] <iainfarrell_> as before I want to contribute and mainly in the area of adding photos to our desktop
[20:07] <iainfarrell_> and helping contribute to its distinctiveness
[20:07] <Pendulum> win 52
[20:07]  * beuno hugs Pendulum 
[20:07] <beuno> iainfarrell_, great to still see you around post-Canonical
[20:07] <iainfarrell_> I'm also running the wallpaper contributions process at the mo
[20:07] <czajkowski> iainfarrell_: can you tell us about the wallpaper and your role in that ?
[20:08] <iainfarrell_> we've got over 1000 entries already and it doesn't close until March :)
[20:08] <iainfarrell_> yeah
[20:08] <iainfarrell_> so about 4 releases ago
[20:08] <iainfarrell_> we decided that the community contributions needed a boost and we'd talked at UDS about what could be done
[20:08] <iainfarrell_> I decided to see if a small set of beautiful wallpapers could be pulled together
[20:08] <iainfarrell_> I felt it would really add
[20:09] <iainfarrell_> and it's something that's reasonably straight forward to run
[20:09] <iainfarrell_> it's also something that people who aren't technical can contribute to
[20:09] <iainfarrell_> because there's a lot of that still today
[20:09] <czajkowski> iainfarrell_: great stuff
[20:09] <iainfarrell_> I see it on the ubuntu-artwork list and chat rooms all the time
[20:09] <czajkowski> iainfarrell_: so how do you see your role in the community going forward?
[20:09] <iainfarrell_> and I've run it ever since
[20:09] <iainfarrell_> well continue to do that
[20:10] <iainfarrell_> I'm also talking to the guys at 500px about pulling together the first of a curated collection
[20:10] <iainfarrell_> which would be a gift to the community if you like
[20:10] <iainfarrell_> it wouldn't fit on the ISO
[20:10] <iainfarrell_> but would be lovely high res images
[20:10] <iainfarrell_> which we source from pro photographers
[20:10] <iainfarrell_> and we give away
[20:10] <iainfarrell_> it promotes us and the very powerful technical and creative tools we offer
[20:11] <iainfarrell_> to an audience who've never heard of us
[20:11] <iainfarrell_> and are tinkerers by nature
[20:11] <iainfarrell_> they think this free tool made by a bunch of us
[20:11] <iainfarrell_> who are all over the world
[20:11] <iainfarrell_> and barely see each other
[20:11] <iainfarrell_> is quite a cool thing
[20:11] <iainfarrell_> and that's why I also want to get more involved in DarkTable
[20:11] <iainfarrell_> which is a really cool project and you should all check it out
[20:12] <iainfarrell_> it's a very very powerful photo editing tool
[20:12] <Azzurrio_> cool
[20:12] <iainfarrell_> I could go on but then I do that, I'm easily excited :)
[20:12] <beuno> cool cool
[20:12] <iainfarrell_> so do tell me to stop :)
[20:13] <beuno> iainfarrell_, you involved at all the LoCo?
[20:13] <t4nk061> hot
[20:13] <iainfarrell_> not regularly since I left London, I usually was a conduit for them to get to people in the building for catching up :)
[20:13] <iainfarrell_> for example if one was trying to track down Ivanka or Charline or someone
[20:14] <iainfarrell_> now I live in the north east too and they're mostly further south
[20:14] <iainfarrell_> so I'm not sure where I'd help but I'd be very happy to pitch in
[20:14] <iainfarrell_> to be honest, with the move I've not really looked into any groups locally
[20:14] <iainfarrell_> it's quite rural where I am now
[20:15] <iainfarrell_> but we use Ubuntu at work on all our dev machines
[20:15] <iainfarrell_> which is pretty cool :)
[20:15] <beuno> indeed!
[20:15] <beuno> alright
[20:15] <beuno> time to vote
[20:15] <iainfarrell_> so I advocate in a professional space
[20:15]  * iainfarrell_ shuts up :)
[20:15] <beuno> #voters czajkowski Pendulum stgraber beuno
[20:15] <meetingology> Current voters: Pendulum beuno czajkowski stgraber
[20:15] <beuno> #vote o
[20:15] <meetingology> Please vote on: o
[20:15] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[20:16] <beuno> #vote Iain Farrel's application
[20:16] <beuno> bah
[20:16] <meetingology> Voting still open on: o
[20:16] <beuno> #endvote
[20:16] <meetingology> Voting ended on: o
[20:16] <meetingology> Votes for:0 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:16] <meetingology> Deadlock, casting vote may be used
[20:16] <beuno> #vote Iain Farrel's application
[20:16] <meetingology> Please vote on: Iain Farrel's application
[20:16] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[20:16] <beuno> ok, now  :)
[20:16] <beuno> +1 from me
[20:16] <meetingology> +1 from me received from beuno
[20:16] <Pendulum> +1
[20:16] <meetingology> +1 received from Pendulum
[20:16] <stgraber> +1
[20:16] <meetingology> +1 received from stgraber
[20:17] <beuno> and I have: 20:11 < czajkowski> I'm +1
[20:17] <beuno> she just went off for a bit
[20:17] <beuno> #endvote
[20:17] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Iain Farrel's application
[20:17] <meetingology> Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:17] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:17] <beuno> welcome iainfarrell_!
[20:17] <knome> iainfarrell_, congrats
[20:17] <Tm_T> iainfarrell_: congrats
[20:17]  * vibhav hugs iainfarrell_ 
[20:17] <iainfarrell_> Yay! many thanks beuno and knome and Tm_T
[20:17] <iainfarrell_> very pleased and excited
[20:18] <Katchup> -1
[20:18]  * iainfarrell_ pops a cork
[20:18] <beuno> no jo-erland?
[20:18] <Pendulum> iainfarrell_: congrats!
[20:18] <iainfarrell_> Cheers Pendulum :)
[20:18] <Katchup> iainfarrell_: congrats
[20:18] <beuno> GunnarHj, you around?
[20:19] <GunnarHj> Sure. Hi all!
[20:19] <beuno> #topic GunnarHj's application
[20:19] <beuno> GunnarHj, tell us about yourself!
[20:19] <GunnarHj> I'm Gunnar Hjalmarsson, a Swedish fellow living in Gothenburg.
[20:19] <GunnarHj> Have used Ubuntu for about 1.5 years, and been involved in (mostly) i18n related patching and bugfixing for almost as long period.
[20:19] <GunnarHj> Applied last July, but was turned down (zeroes). Since then I have basically kept doing the same kind of work; the good news is that there are a few testimonials on the wiki page this time.
[20:19] <czajkowski> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GunnarHj
[20:19] <beuno> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GunnarHj
[20:21] <czajkowski> GunnarHj: so mainly in bugs and translations?
[20:21] <GunnarHj> Well, not translations exactly. It's more about the interfaces for setting languages etc.
[20:22] <GunnarHj> So it's about making the translations easily available to the users.
[20:22] <Tm_T> GunnarHj: basicly the work that has to be done so translations can be done?
[20:22] <GunnarHj> Yes.
[20:23] <czajkowski> GunnarHj: are you involved in other areas in the Ubuntu community, such as your locoteam?
[20:23] <GunnarHj> I'm a member of the Swedish team, but haven't yet been active there.
[20:24] <czajkowski> so how do you feel Ubuntu membership will help you and the community ? or does it have any effect?
[20:24] <GunnarHj> Spent too much time on the dev. stuff, I think.
[20:24] <beuno> GunnarHj, a testimonial from pitti is pretty impressice!
[20:24] <beuno> and impressive
[20:25] <GunnarHj> It would be a showed appreciation of my contribution, and would likely make me more inclined to keep on and entering new areas of contributions.
[20:25] <czajkowski> GunnarHj: what other areas would you look at
[20:27] <GunnarHj> Can't tell right now. You could say that I have been a driver of certain matters, and right now I'm occupied with ensuring that they make it into 12.04.
[20:27] <czajkowski> what are they ?
[20:28] <czajkowski> GunnarHj: I'm just trying to ask what areas you'd like to get into in the community
[20:29] <GunnarHj> In summary it's about providing bug free user interfaces for changing languages and settings for regional formats. Those things were buggy in 10.04, and we have gradually god rid of most of the bugs.
[20:29] <beuno> that's super valuable work
[20:29] <beuno> lets vote!
[20:29] <beuno> #vote
[20:29] <meetingology> Please vote on:
[20:29] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[20:29] <GunnarHj> One thing that has made it more complicated is that the underlying architecture has changed.
[20:29] <beuno> +1
[20:30] <stgraber> +1
[20:30]  * beuno slaps meetingology 
[20:30] <czajkowski> +1 but would like to see other areas explored
[20:31] <Pendulum> +1
[20:31] <beuno> #endbote
[20:31] <beuno> #endvote
[20:31] <meetingology> No vote in progress
[20:31] <beuno> sorry folks, sucking today at typing
[20:31] <beuno> GunnarHj, congrats!
[20:31] <czajkowski> GunnarHj: congrats
[20:31] <GunnarHj> Thanks! It makes me very happy and flattered. :)
[20:31] <iainfarrell_> well done GunnarHj  :)
[20:31] <GunnarHj> And yes, I will dig in more areas soon.
[20:32] <czajkowski> thanks
[20:32] <beuno> EgyParadox, you around?
[20:32] <EgyParadox> Yes I am here
[20:32] <beuno> sweet
[20:32] <GunnarHj> Thanks for you time, guys!
[20:32] <beuno> #topic EgyParadox's application
[20:33] <beuno> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EgyParadox
[20:33] <czajkowski> EgyParadox: welcome thanks for coming along
[20:33] <EgyParadox> :)
[20:33] <beuno> EgyParadox, tell us about yourself
[20:34] <EgyParadox> My name is Omar Mohsen, I started using Ubuntu about 6 years ago
[20:34] <EgyParadox> I joined the Egyptian LoCo team about 2 years ago
[20:35] <EgyParadox> My contribution is mainly support through different ways
[20:35] <EgyParadox> through IRC, events
[20:36] <EgyParadox> I also administer our social media pages
[20:36] <czajkowski> EgyParadox: so you help grow the locoteam?
[20:37] <EgyParadox> yes czajkowski
[20:37] <czajkowski> EgyParadox: what would you like to do to help your team, and get more people involved in your community ?
[20:38] <EgyParadox> organize more events
[20:39] <beuno> EgyParadox, you're involved in both the Egypt and Malaysian LoCo's?
[20:39] <EgyParadox> I wanted to be involved in the Malaysian LoCo but I no longer live there
[20:39] <beuno> ah, I see  :)
[20:40] <beuno> EgyParadox, got quite a few testimonials as well!
[20:40] <mgamal> guys
[20:40] <EgyParadox> I provided IRC support for about 2 years
[20:40] <czajkowski> EgyParadox: last question, what do you plan to do in the future to help your team? anything specific ?
[20:40] <mgamal> sorry to interfere
[20:41] <czajkowski> mgamal: we're in the middle of an appliction, is it regarding EgyParadox ?
[20:41] <mgamal> yes
[20:41] <mgamal> I just wanted to say I didn't have time to write my testimonial
[20:41] <mgamal> but I'd like to tell EgyParadox he was such a great team mate in the Egyptian LoCo :)
[20:42] <mgamal> he contributed a lot to the LoCo's social media presence
[20:42] <mgamal> and he helped get us about 2000 followers on our FB pages and twitter
[20:43] <czajkowski> mgamal: thanks
[20:43] <czajkowski> beuno: ready to vote
[20:43] <beuno> k
[20:43] <beuno> #vote EgyParadox's application
[20:43] <meetingology> Please vote on: EgyParadox's application
[20:43] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[20:43] <czajkowski> +1
[20:43] <meetingology> +1 received from czajkowski
[20:43] <beuno> +1
[20:43] <meetingology> +1 received from beuno
[20:43] <Pendulum> +1
[20:43] <meetingology> +1 received from Pendulum
[20:44] <stgraber> +1
[20:44] <meetingology> +1 received from stgraber
[20:44]  * beuno tickes stgraber 
[20:45]  * czajkowski pokes beuno end vote
[20:45] <beuno> #endvote
[20:45] <meetingology> Voting ended on: EgyParadox's application
[20:45] <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:45] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:45] <beuno> congrats EgyParadox!
[20:45] <czajkowski> TadeasParik: you about ?
[20:45] <TadeasParik> yes, I am here
[20:45] <thelinuxer> congrats EgyParadox :)
[20:45] <EgyParadox> Thanks beuno strgraber Pendulum
[20:45] <beuno> #topic TadeasParik's application
[20:45] <EgyParadox> Thanks thelinuxer
[20:46] <Wazery> congrats EgyParadox :)
[20:46] <beuno> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TadeasParik
[20:47] <TadeasParik> can I start?
[20:47] <czajkowski> TadeasParik: yup thanks for coming
[20:47] <beuno> TadeasParik, yes!
[20:47] <czajkowski> TadeasParik: can you tell us a little bit about yourself ?
[20:47] <czajkowski> please
[20:47] <TadeasParik> ok, so my name is Tadeáš Pařík, 26 years old, Prague, Czech republic
[20:47] <TadeasParik> I use Ubuntu from 8.04 and from 2008 I am active member of our Czech Ubuntu forum where I help with the standard problems, from this year I am also on Launchpad
[20:48] <TadeasParik> from 2010 I am active moderator of this forum and from 2011 I am admin of this forum and of all ubuntu official pages in Czech republic (ubuntu.cz, facebook, G+ pages, Czech Ubuntu wiki etc.)
[20:48] <TadeasParik> I am especially involved in all official events/meetings/presentations about Ubuntu in the Czech republic (I represented Ubuntu onLinuxExpo conference, there were also other distros and Microsoft)
[20:49] <TadeasParik> and also in non official, e.g. we have special Ubuntu beer event in Prague
[20:49] <beuno> TadeasParik, have you by any chance met Jenda?
[20:49] <TadeasParik> I know him from our forum, but unfortunately he is not active memeber now...
[20:50] <vojtech_t> Jenda is unfortunately long time inactive
[20:50] <beuno> yeah, I know
[20:50] <beuno> thought maybe he'd still go to the parties for the beer at least :)
[20:51] <TadeasParik> I helped to organise two release party in Czech republic, during the first one I was presenting about new Ubuntu 11.04 and for the second one I found the place and I was fronting this action
[20:51] <TadeasParik> there were some articles on Czech IT portals
[20:52] <TadeasParik> on Launchpad I am a member of translation team
[20:52] <beuno> TadeasParik, you seem to only have one testimonial (although a strong one)
[20:52] <beuno> is the .cz LoCo small?
[20:52] <TadeasParik> so we are preparing czech localization
[20:52] <vojtech_t> it's because there are only few active ubunteros in the czech rep.
[20:52] <vojtech_t> and i'm the only one active ubuntu member
[20:52] <czajkowski> it's an approved loco
[20:53] <TadeasParik> yes, there is only Vojta and me...
[20:53] <czajkowski> vojtech_t: you dont have to be an approved member to leave a comment
[20:53] <TadeasParik> I mean active members...
[20:53] <czajkowski> anyone can leave a testimonal on a wiki page
[20:53] <czajkowski> for an approved loco there are only 2 active members....
[20:53] <beuno> vojtech_t, so I guess you're a strong supporter of TadeasParik?
[20:54] <vojtech_t> czajkowski, we have about 5-10 really active people
[20:54] <TadeasParik> for me it is life's hobby...
[20:54] <vojtech_t> beuno: yes
[20:54] <beuno> awesome
[20:54] <beuno> TadeasParik, what does the future look like to you?
[20:54] <vojtech_t> czajkowski, maybe it's my fault, because i thought only ubuntu members can write testimonials
[20:55] <TadeasParik> I would like to finish our Czech localization, now we are preparing next GlobalJam and we started with preparations for Release party...
[20:55] <beuno> vojtech_t, that's fine, you think there's more fans out there then?
[20:56] <TadeasParik> and I would like to find more active people here for our LoCo
[20:56] <beuno> maybe we can trick jenda to getting involved again  :)
[20:56] <vojtech_t> beuno, yes, as forum administrator tadeas is really popular
[20:57] <czajkowski> beuno: shall we vote
[20:57] <beuno> lets!
[20:57] <beuno> #vote TadeasParik's application
[20:57] <meetingology> Please vote on: TadeasParik's application
[20:57] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[20:57] <vojtech_t> beuno: i don't know, he is married, works as lawyer, i think he hasn't much spare time for ubuntu
[20:57] <beuno> +1 from me
[20:57] <meetingology> +1 from me received from beuno
[20:57] <czajkowski> +1
[20:57] <meetingology> +1 received from czajkowski
[20:57] <Pendulum> +1
[20:57] <meetingology> +1 received from Pendulum
[20:58] <stgraber> +1
[20:58] <meetingology> +1 received from stgraber
[20:58] <beuno> #endvote
[20:58] <meetingology> Voting ended on: TadeasParik's application
[20:58] <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:58] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:58] <beuno> TadeasParik, welcome  \o/
[20:58] <vojtech_t> congrats
[20:58] <iainfarrell_> yay :)
[20:58] <TadeasParik> thanks a lot!!
[20:58] <iainfarrell_> well done TadeasParik
[20:59] <czajkowski> TadeasParik: well done
[20:59] <beuno> vibhav, you're the last one on the list, but I think the concerns from the Americas board still stand 2 weeks later
[20:59] <vibhav> TadeasParik: congrats
[20:59] <beuno> vibhav, I'd take them into consideration and re-apply in a few months
[21:00] <vibhav> Well , Actually , interaction is something I fail at
[21:00] <beuno> and with that
[21:00] <beuno> #endmeeting
[21:00] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Feb  7 21:00:18 2012 UTC.
[21:00] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-02-07-20.02.moin.txt
[21:00] <vibhav> Thats why I chose translations
[21:00] <czajkowski> vibhav: I beleive you can still interact within the community online and with translations
[21:00] <czajkowski> nobody said you have to meet in RL
[21:00] <beuno> vibhav, right, it's really hard to be part of a community if you're not good at interacting
[21:00] <vibhav> czajkowski: Thats what I do
[21:01] <beuno> congrats again iainfarrell_, GunnarHj, EgyParadox, TadeasParik
[21:01] <vibhav> I have been translating for the past 7 months
[21:01] <vibhav> https://launchpad.net/~vibhavp/+karma
[21:01] <iainfarrell_> thanks
[21:01] <czajkowski> iainfarrell_: thanks
[21:01] <czajkowski> stgraber: you about
[21:02] <TadeasParik> beuno, thank you
[21:02] <GunnarHj> Thanks again, folks!
[21:02] <iainfarrell_> thanks beuno and czajkowski :)
[21:02] <iainfarrell_> and have a great evening everyone :)
[21:03]  * vibhav goes to sleep
[21:04] <pangolin> vibhav: keep up the good work and try to get more involved with your loco and the loco channel, talk to the existing team lead and see if there is anything you can do to help them increase Ubuntu usage.