[00:12] is there any good resources on installing newer mysql server ? [00:17] methods, define "installing newer mysql server" [00:17] >=5.5.3 [00:17] which version of mysqld (mysql daemon aka mysql server) do yo uwant to install? [00:20] methods, unless its in sid or already packaged, you might have to compile/install from source [00:20] lemme check debian sid [00:20] sid ? [00:20] Debian Sid [00:20] well .. mysql download page offers debian downloads [00:21] but the package names aren't the same and stuff so I know that might cause issues where apt-get'ing something may require mysql-server to be installed which clobbers my setup [00:22] http://www.mysql.com/downloads/mysql/#downloads [00:22] i know the page [00:22] i'm reading atm [00:24] methods: if you can wait to precise, there's a mysql-server-5.5 you can install [00:24] precise ?? [00:24] but it doesnt seem to be fully tested [00:24] holy god, you arent aware of release names are you? [00:24] !precise [00:24] Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) will be the sixteenth release of Ubuntu. Codename announcement here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/784 - Blueprints at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1 [00:25] you should learn version numbers vs. codenames [00:25] code names are kind of annoying rather just have versions [00:25] Lucid is 10.04, Maverick = 10.10, Natty = 11.04, Oneiric = 12.04 [00:25] but honestly i just upgrade my desktop whenever i don't care really to remember [00:25] well in Debian, codenames need to be known anyways [00:25] because Debian 6 is denoted as 'squeeze' in the sources.list entries :P [00:26] well I'm on amazon anyway and they are behind [00:26] sid = unstable [00:26] etc. [00:26] oh you didnt mention this was on an amazon "cloud vps" [00:29] trying to find out what their latest is [00:30] i wonder if i could get away with the precise package [00:30] it might work fine on older ubuntu [00:31] stgraber: well, i *think* that's pretty much what we want :) (wrt a typo) but, do you agree static-network-up is the way to go? [00:35] hay all [00:46] ok [00:46] my grub wont load [00:46] i think i'm going to do the emit in pre-start after all [00:47] should be ok if i do --no-wait [00:48] so it used to load but i moved the server and it loads to a grub prompt [00:49] I am pretty sure i am using a LVM [00:50] so when I am at the grub prompt and I do the ls command [00:51] I see the hd0 hd0,1 hd1 hd1,1 but none of them have my grub on them [00:52] it is on the drive "landl" [00:52] but I am not sure how to explain it [00:53] when i load from the live cd and recover broken system [00:53] I see the landl partition [00:54] and i shell to there but grub-install sg1 [00:54] does not work [00:54] the only drive is a scsi raid set up [00:55] Lazerath: pastebin contents of /proc/partitions. [00:55] Lazerath: run file -s across each of the partitions listed in /proc/partitions, it will report if a bootloader is installed on them. [00:56] do that from the recovery shell off the live cd [00:56] Lazerath: another test is dd if=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 | strings [00:56] it used to work [00:56] That test will print a bunch of strings, including "GRUB" if grub is the bootloader on sda [00:56] i think it is sg1 not sda [00:57] I have never seen disks called "landl" or "sg1" before; the latter is believably but the former sounds very unlikely. [00:57] sg1 is more likely to be the CD or tape drive [00:57] ok landl is my own partion [00:58] As I said, look at /proc/partitions. The number of partitions on a device and their sizes should make it very obvious which one(s) are you drive(s). [00:58] the only drives hooked up to the server are a cd rom and a SCSI External 7disk raid stack with 2 partitions [00:58] but i will check that out quick [00:59] should i check the /proc/partitions from the grub shell on my failed boot or from the recovery mode on the live cd [00:59] Ah, OK, stupid hardware raid stuff often shows up in bizarre ways [01:00] Lazerath: you need to check it from a live medium [01:00] I think the landl partition is the LVM [01:00] smoser: around? [01:00] The grub shell is pretty useless [01:00] yeah it is [01:00] smoser: why does python2.7 conflict with python-profiler/ [01:00] ? [01:00] ok i will just boot ubuntu live cd and check it out [01:00] i was going to do that next anyway [01:02] i think i have grub and not grub2 not sure though but i will check this out... Thanks mate [01:08] It doesn't matter much [01:43] WELL live cd is still loading [01:43] but i will check the /proc/partitions directory [01:43] what was the command with the -s variable you said [01:45] 11:55 Lazerath: run file -s across each of the partitions listed in /proc/partitions, it will report if a bootloader is installed on them. [01:46] Can someone please help me pass this part??? [01:46] https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/dns-configuration.html#dns-caching-configuration [01:46] What IPs are they talking about?? [01:48] Anyone?? [01:49] hex20dec: the DNS servers operated by your Internet Service Provider. that information is also false; you don't *have* to specify forwarders, as long as bind is aware of the 'root' name servers. [01:49] hex20dec: "the IP Addresses of your ISP's DNS servers" [01:49] yo dawg [01:54] hex20dec: I'll answer here. most folk want their DNS servers to answer queries for records outside of any 'local' zones that might be maintained. you may tell yours to forward such requests to a specific set of nameservers. rationale for using nameservers operated by your ISP is that they might be faster. [01:55] hex20dec: if you don't specify forwarders, than the root hint servers will be used (see /etc/bind/db.root) [01:56] hex20dec: if you do not perform recursion at all, then your own clients will not work very well. dns servers have to be able to ask other dns servers for information. [01:57] persay [01:57] forwarders { [01:57] 1.2.3.4; [01:57] 5.6.7.8; [01:57] }; [01:57] well, they don't, but ... that's a common configuration [01:57] the IP's go in the two number sets [01:57] what IPs would be put there? [01:57] https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/dns-configuration.html#dns-caching-configuration [01:59] I'm talking to you, kerframil [01:59] hex and I are both trying to set the stuff up correctly [02:00] Vexiant: if you don't know, then you don't have to specify any forwarders at all - as noted before. it's optional, even though the doc there suggests it isn't. [02:00] Vexiant: a default bind setup will be aware of the 'root' nameservers, which can be used for upstream queries. [02:03] thanks [02:03] Vexiant: if you do want to use your ISP nameserver, ask them. or look for the info in their knowledge base or such. [02:03] ok [02:04] Vexiant: be careful though. some organisations operate really crap nameservers. you might actually be better off using the root servers, especially if you're caching anyway. [02:05] Vexiant: Google's work alright too (8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4) [02:06] thanks [02:16] hallyn: static-network-up sounds good yes [02:31] kerframil: IMO it is advisable to tell stupid noobs to use their ISP's DNS server, so as to reduce the load on the root servers [02:32] If that *does* cause them problems, it can be dealt with then [02:32] twb: a reasonable assertion [02:33] My favourite annoying one is telstra seems to resolve all unqualified hosts to help.telstra.com or so, so when I'm at my dad's place, I can't just "getent hosts " to test if I'm in the office [02:34] twb: gah [02:36] stgraber: i'm feeling burned out, think i'll wait on that. maybe next upload. Or maybe just on next merge. [02:37] hallyn: would be nice to have for 12.04, but we can probably argue it's not technically a feature so can maybe wait post-Feature Freeze [02:37] oh right. that. [02:38] stgraber: ok, so if we switch to upstart, do you think 'stop lxc' should behave like 'stop libvirt' - and not shut down its network? [02:38] (at all) [02:38] right now, /etc/init.d/lxc stop will shut down the lxc nwetork if no devices are attached to the lxc bridge [02:39] eh, ok, i'll see what i can do [02:39] i'm trying to see if poor jodh has run into any other lxc-caused bugs [02:40] and i wonder how your upstart lxc changes are faring [02:41] New bug: #927519 in makedev (main) "makedev fails to upgrade in lxc container with error 'Device or resource busy'" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/927519 [02:41] hallyn: I'll do some poking for the upstart changes, I know jodh has been pretty busy with upstart bugfixes and plymouth stuff ... [02:42] and lxc-caused bugs [02:42] hallyn: for the network, I'm not sure, same for the containers, I think killing the network if we no longer have anything in the bridge is fine, otherwise it's probably a bad idea [02:42] I'm also not sure if "stop" should kill all the containers marked as "auto", I guess people would expect us to do so, but it won't react like libvirt then [02:43] and we'll need to be careful not to "restart" lxc on package upgrade (or we'll suddently kill and start all the containers) [02:55] hallyn: just saw your comment on the console/tty bug, I guess that'd work indeed, we could use a sub-directory too if that makes things easier [02:55] hallyn: though I'm wondering how hardcoded /dev/console is, I wouldn't be surprised if software were using it directly (upstart being one of them) [02:58] stgraber: maybe we can affect that with upstart arguments (akin to '--console /dev/ttyS0') [02:58] still, i'm afraid you're probably right, it would end up missing something [02:58] hallyn: indeed. Something else that we'd need to think about is how to deal with older version of the OS in the container [02:59] though, I agree this would solve most of our problems (if not all) around upgrades/dist-upgrades in containers, so it's definitely worth investigating [02:59] i was going to mention to you tomorrow i think we need a serious devns design discussion at uds [03:00] anyway [03:00] hallyn: yep, that seems to be our biggest pain nowadays (with these devices + udev storms), so indeed worth booking some time to sit and think about it [03:01] hello all, I am a server newbie i have a Mahara site setup, that someone walked me through, I am working on a Moodle site as well. My Mahara site points correctly to the subdomian, but the Moodle subdomain just pulls up the root domain [03:02] this works: http://mahara.triside.com ....but this doesn't http://moodle.triside.com [03:02] I made the VirtualHost file the same as each other with their directories pointing to their respective locations [03:03] I have restarted apache2 and it showed OK I think I forgot something, i just don't know what I missed [03:03] servername, most likely [03:04] inside the vhost file qman___ ? [03:04] to work properly, the virutalhost must be * (*:80 / *:443 ok too) [03:04] and the servername directive defined for each host [03:04] one bad one can mess up the whole config [03:05] Yo, how do I find out the IP of a server via terminal? [03:06] ok, I'll keep looking, thanks qman___ [03:06] anyone know? [03:07] qman___, here is what both vhosts look like, but they aren't in the same file http://www.pasteall.org/28928 [03:07] Vexiant: ip addr show [03:07] Vexiant, or you can try ifconfig i believe as well [03:07] ifconfig is for your own ip [03:07] thanks kerframil [03:08] designbybeck, those are good, but make sure no other virtualhosts are defined that defy that convention [03:08] hmm none that i know of [03:08] the way the apache config works is all those config files cross-reference each other into one big config [03:08] so it could be anywhere [03:08] oh [03:08] use grep -R to find any extraneous hosts [03:10] you should also have "NameVirtualHost *" [03:10] http://www.pasteall.org/28929 [03:10] those are the vhosts files [03:11] hmmm... I haven't ran acros the NameVirtualHost [03:11] do like so [03:11] sudo grep -R NameVirtualHost /etc/apache2 [03:12] and here is the sample moodle file from their site: http://www.pasteall.org/28930 [03:13] sudo grep -Ri ^\ this particular issue doesn't have anything to do with the application being run, it's just a general apache virtualhost problem [03:14] qman___, here is that output [03:14] http://www.pasteall.org/28931 [03:15] well that answers it [03:15] nto sure what the unable to resolve host triside is all about [03:15] your hosts are not enabled, only the default is [03:15] but triside.com works and mahara.triside work? [03:15] the default site is enabled [03:15] the files are probably available through it [03:15] hmmm [03:16] also, that message means 'triside' doesn't resolve in /etc/hosts [03:16] you should add it such that it points to the LAN adapter's IP [03:16] i actually haven't edited the default file [03:16] see a2ensite and a2dissite [03:16] and your virtualhosts should be each in their own file in /etc/apache2/sites-available [03:17] i do have them in their own files [03:17] what do you mean by see a2ensite and a2disiste? what does that mean [03:17] commands [03:17] i thought that mean /etc/apache2/sites-available [03:17] oohh [03:18] Ok [03:18] The boot drive is sda1 [03:19] But the files are on the lvm sda5 [03:20] designbybeck, according to that output, your site configurations are either not formatted correctly or are not in the right place, because they'd show up in that list if they were [03:20] like default-ssl does [03:20] ahhh qman___ i did see that on the mahara install instruction site it did have this command: sudo a2ensite mahara.conf [03:20] but i haven't done anything like that for the moodlevirtualhost file [03:21] the sda1 does have some files for booting [03:22] But the lvm is locked so how do I reinstall grub [03:22] designbybeck, ah, they didn't show because of the whitespace [03:22] not sure if that matters or not [03:22] but anyway, you need to enable both of those sites, and should probably disable the default site if you're not using it [03:22] ok [03:23] let me try that command [03:24] LOL.... well....it doesn't point to the root anymore [03:25] qman___, i did the a2ensite and that seemed to work ok [03:25] then i restarted apace2 and that seemed to work ok [03:25] letme see how to disable default [03:25] should be sudo a2dissite default [03:26] and you can verify by doing ls /etc/apache2/sites-enabled [03:26] those two commands are glorified symbolic linkers [03:26] but it works pretty well [03:27] ok i dod see the moodlevirtualhost in sites-enable [03:27] and default too [03:28] that should work as expected then [03:28] provided the servername directive is set correctly for each site, when you visit by those URLs, you get the right site [03:28] you can also use the serveralias directive to add more names [03:29] a2dissite is the other command? [03:29] yes [03:30] so it would be sudo a2dissite default ? [03:30] yes [03:31] also, those servernames should resolve to your server, i.e. be in /etc/hosts [03:32] but that's not strictly necessary, and in fact I just checked mine and it isn't [03:34] oh yeah i think i forgot to set those up [03:36] well....i think we're gettting smoewhere [03:36] ...but now triside.com is the same as mahara.triside.com [03:36] because i took off default? [03:36] let me check the /etc/hosts [03:36] if that was your default site, yes [03:37] each site must be defined, the default site takes over any that aren't [03:38] qman___, here is the /etc/hosts http://www.pasteall.org/28932 [03:38] remove the second and third 127.0.0.1 lines [03:39] actually, make it look like this: http://www.pasteall.org/28933 [03:39] do you have to restart apache afer that? [03:39] yes [03:42] qman___, http://www.pasteall.org/28934 [03:42] i learned a few thigns this time [03:42] gave some errors [03:42] anyone here familiar with openvas? [03:42] ok, that means two things [03:43] first, that that directory doesn't exist [03:43] and second, that one of your servername directives doesn't resolve and needs to be added to /etc/hosts [03:43] ok...first thing, i thought i had the dir there [03:44] DOH! ...yeah i forgot i used the www for mahara, but for moodle (to keep them separate) i put it in its own dir [03:44] that'll do it [03:45] you may need to add your subdomains to /etc/hosts, if so, just tag them on the end [03:45] like: 1.2.3.4 site site.com sub.site.com sub2.site.com [03:47] yeah i didn't get that error this time, but it still got the nameserver error [03:47] apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 108.166.105.36 for ServerName [03:47] ok i'll try that in the /etc/hosts [03:48] Sweet!! moodle.triside.com resolved [03:49] yeah, it's not super complicated, but unfortunately, unless you've done it before, it's not obvious where the problem is when it's not working as expected [03:51] well it was setting up apache and the file structure that obviously i'm still learning [03:52] i guess i thought things had to be in a very specific location [03:52] I the "cat partitions" command in the /proc folder [03:52] The boot drive is sda1 [03:52] But the files are on the lvm sda5 [03:52] the sda1 does have some files for booting [03:52] But the lvm is locked so how do I reinstall grub [03:52] but the important thing is that you just tell the file where to go [03:52] yeah, it's a pretty flexible system, that's why it didn't throw any errors until you disabled the default site [03:53] ok so now i have to address the 2nd thing [03:53] i did put in the sub.site.com stuff in [03:53] is service apache2 reload the same as restart? [03:54] they're not the same [03:54] reload causes apache to reread all the configuration files live [03:54] restart actually shuts down and restarts apache [03:54] reload is faster and is in many cases good enough, but sometimes a full restart is needed [03:55] let me give it a good ol' restart then [03:56] * Restarting web server apache2 apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 108.166.105.36 for ServerName [03:56] ... waiting apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 108.166.105.36 for ServerName [03:56] yeahi found with apache i needed to restart sometimes when changing settings [03:56] ok that ServerName would be in the /site-available file correct? [03:56] that servername could be anywhere [03:57] hmmm [03:57] sudo grep -R ServerName /etc/apache2 to list them all [03:57] and make sure all the ones listed (and which are not commented or disabled) resolve [03:58] but bear in mind also that as long as your sites work the way you expect, that warning can be safely ignored [03:58] i'm not sure what this means qman___ , but is it missing smoething? http://www.pasteall.org/28936 [03:58] oh [03:59] yes my two resolve correctly [03:59] so for my testing purposes it is working thus far! [04:00] Thank you for your help qman___ !! I've learned a lot tonight ! [04:03] Hi. I have Ubuntu 11.10 Server running, all updates applied. I'm trying to install Nagios NRPE plugin, but I'm getting "Unable to find SSL libraries" compilation error. I've installed libssl-dev, but I'm getting the same error on compilation. Is there another package I need for the ssl libraries? [04:04] dforthman, suggest you install the nagios-nrpe-server package instead of rolling your own [04:05] compiling your own software is not a best practice on production servers [04:06] No, but when I installed the package from the repos, it was missing configuration files and wouldn't start. Uninstalled/re-installed several times and got the same result. [04:06] I've installed said package without incident, did you modify them yourself? [04:06] in any case, install then purge [04:07] then remove the cached package file from /var/cache/apt/archives [04:07] and download the fresh one [04:07] purge gets rid of all configuration files so that the next install will recreate them [04:07] remove does not [04:07] Did all that. It was still missing the config files. [04:08] what file(s) are you expecting which is missing? [04:10] also, are you trying to set up your monitoring server, or the servers that are being monitored? [04:10] because nagios-nrpe-server is what [04:11] 's needed on the servers being monitored [04:11] We're off-topic. Are there additional packages I need for the SSL libraries? Or where do I point --with-ssl-lib=/path/to/ssl/lib? [04:11] https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/dns-configuration.html [04:11] "Also, create an A record" [04:11] I keep seeing "A record" [04:11] What does that mean? [04:12] "A record" is an address record. It points your domain name to an IP address. [04:12] @ IN A 127.0.0.1 [04:12] @ IN AAAA ::1 [04:12] ns IN A 192.168.1.10 [04:12] what would I put inplace of the A's? [04:12] you don't [04:12] the As belong there [04:12] /etc/bind/db.xxx.com:14: unknown RR type 'AAA' (Note, the X's are just there to hide the site) [04:13] welp, check BIND gave me that error [04:13] a AAAA record is an ipv6 record [04:13] your version of BIND is not interpreting ipv6 records [04:13] remove the errant record or fix your BIND to accept ipv6 records [04:13] So what should I do? [04:13] errant? Sorry, I'm new to all of this [04:14] Remove the line with AAAA [04:14] Ok [04:14] then restart Bind [04:14] ok, thanks [04:14] dforthman, you probably need libssl-dev, but again, there's nothing wrong with the packaged versions [04:15] I use them, they work [04:15] Yo, thanks so much, guys. It just removed ALL my errors! [04:15] I've installed libssl-dev but it's still giving the error. I'll try the packaged version again. [04:16] And I'm trying to install the NRPE addon to the Nagios monitoring server. [04:16] that one needs the -plugin package [04:16] nagios-nrpe-plugin [04:17] qman___: or he just typed AAA instead of AAAA [04:18] true, I assumed his paste was what was in his records but it could not have been [04:18] could have not been* [04:19] it was AAA [04:19] the problem is solved, as I stated. Thanks to qman___ and dforthman [04:19] Vexiant: there are 4 A's in an AAAA [04:20] but odds are you don't need any AAAA records, especially if you don't already know what they are [04:20] Vexiant: if you get that wrong dumb things happen [04:20] thanks to qman___, I just translated. [04:20] twb, I got nothing wrong. It was already set like that [04:21] I have lost interest in this discussion [04:21] yes, the problem has been colved [04:21] solved* [04:23] alright, let's see how this nagios on the repos goes this time [04:25] "Not replacing deleted config file" [04:25] purge and try again, that normally fixes it [04:26] it might be a dep too [04:26] ok all [04:26] I ran the "cat partitions" command in the /proc folder...The boot drive is sda1...the sda1 does have some files for booting..like: initrd.img-2.6.32-32-generic-pae..But the files are on the lvm sda5..like: initrd.img..But the lvm is locked so how do I reinstall grub.... I can access the lvm when booting recovery from the cd.... i got some type of error when i ran "grub-install hd0" which i cannot remember right now. [04:28] Total Warnings: 0 Total Errors: 7 [04:29] it won't let me purge, either. i'm getting error messages [04:29] pastebin the whole log on the purge [04:30] it usually amounts to touching the missing files to satisfy apt [04:30] so it can remove them [04:31] bah [04:31] +-++++++ [04:31] http://pastebin.com/xw7mAj0e [04:32] ah, looks like an in-nagios checking issue [04:33] try commending out / removing all the checks on localhost's config [04:37] ugh. no good [04:38] now i'm getting "No checks defined" [04:38] and it errors out [04:39] "No services defined" rather [04:39] ok, try purging nagios3-common nagios3-core nagios3 nagios3-cgi all at once [04:40] nagios3 looks like a metapackage and that may be why it's wanting things to work before you can remove it [04:40] seems to be working [04:40] sh: getcwd() failed: No such file or directory sh: getcwd() failed: No such file or directory sh: getcwd() failed: No such file or directory [04:40] should that worry me? [04:40] not necessarily [04:41] what's your current working directory [04:41] var/cache/apt/archives [04:42] a little odd then, but it could just be missing files/directories [04:42] in any case, a successful purge marks it as totally gone [04:42] and then you can manually delete any files left over [04:42] and install fresh [04:43] I've had bad downloads make for very bad days before [04:44] ok, so which nagios package has nrpe? [04:45] nagios-nrpe-plugin installs the monitoring server bits for nrpe [04:45] you also need a working nagios (or icinga) for it to be useful, obviously [04:46] yeah. i'm gonna set that up now [04:46] nagios-nrpe-server are the bits for the machines being monitored [04:46] that naming threw me for a loop for quite a bit [04:46] eh, that's what the NSClient++ is for haha [04:46] we don't run anything linux except for the nagios server [04:47] I use nsclient++ too, works pretty well [04:49] that is, when the untangle firewall isn't corrupting the download, which it was with 0.38 for some reason [04:49] haha [04:53] 10.04 ubuntu fortune file has a link to https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/networking.html [04:53] That should be checked and fixed for precise [04:54] fortunes-ubuntu-server 0.3, I mean [04:56] ok, so where are the actual check command file(s) located on the repository nagios? [04:57] nevermind, found 'em [04:57] dforthman: /etc/nagios3/*.conf is sourced by the master file therein IIRC [04:59] i was looking fore /etc/nagios-plugins/http.cfg [04:59] had to add a command to check for non-80 http servers [05:24] hi all, know somthing about closed connection with Ubuntu Server 11.10 [05:25] I got some servers with that problem [05:25] after few bytes of transfer the connection wiht the services are close [05:25] like ssh or apache web server [05:26] but only with some Ip [05:26] not all of it === KeyGruin is now known as KeyGruin-zzz [05:37]