[00:43] <Unit193> Woah, not you again! ;)
[00:43] <Unit193> Wait, I was supposed to start with "Hello yano and welcome to the Ubuntu Ohio LoCo!"
[00:45] <yano> me again?
[00:45] <yano> Hello Unit193
[00:45] <yano> hehe
[00:49] <Unit193> So, you in Ohio? Use Ubuntu too? (Or just here to take a quick peek?)
[00:51] <yano> I'm in Ohio, and I use Ubuntu in one of my VMs.
[00:51] <Unit193> Cool, just getting to know you in this area
[00:57] <yano> cool
[00:57] <yano> is this mostly columbus based?
[01:00] <Unit193> Quite a few it seems, but not fully (As seen from http://i.imgur.com/Vhbgk.png and http://ohio.ubuntu-us.org/map/user )
[01:04] <yano> cool
[01:04] <yano> looks like there might be a dot where i am at now
[01:05] <Unit193> So, where you from?
[01:06] <yano> north east ohio, near youngstown
[01:10] <Unit193> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OhioTeam/ReLoCos None quite *that* close
[01:46] <thafreak> near youngstown
[01:47] <thafreak> that's usually code for boardman, canfield, austintown... :)
[01:47] <yano> or just a tad further
[01:47] <yano> :-)
[01:48] <thafreak> east liverpool? :)
[01:48] <thafreak> salem
[01:48] <thafreak> poland
[01:48] <paultag> yano: here too? :)
[01:48] <paultag> yano: one would think you're slowly coming after me :)
[01:48] <thafreak> oh, a tag stalker?
[01:49] <paultag> thafreak: [s]he just joined #whube too, not often that happens :)
[01:49] <thafreak> weird
[01:49] <yano> one of you, was/is a room that i frequent and didn't know who you were, craft googling lead me to here and #whube
[01:49] <yano> :-P
[01:50] <thafreak> ha
[01:50] <paultag> :)
[01:50] <thafreak> wait, it wasn't about hubzero was it...
[01:50] <yano> hubzero?
[01:50] <thafreak> wish i never brought that up in here
[01:50] <paultag> y'rly
[01:50] <thafreak> ok...don't bother
[01:50] <paultag> that dude was creepy
[01:50] <thafreak> something i was complaining about...and now the chat logs show up if you google for it
[01:51] <yano> nah
[01:51] <yano> i was actually curious how you guys found my channel, though, it could be because you were/are in the columbus area
[01:52] <thafreak> alot of folks are...
[01:52] <paultag> yano: wait, which channel?
[01:52] <thafreak> ohio linux fest is down there
[01:52] <yano> the channel for the OSU Open Source Club, #osu_osc
[01:52] <thafreak> oh
[01:52] <paultag> aaaaahhhhhhhhh
[01:52] <thafreak> i just started lurking there
[01:52] <yano> i've noticed. ;-)
[01:53] <thafreak> been on the cohpy mailing list for a few years and the osc mailing list, ever since I went to pyohio
[01:53] <thafreak> saw the chatroom mentioned on the list...thought I'd lurk
[01:54] <yano> cool
[01:54] <yano> yea cohpy has a channel, #cohpy. very small activity though
[01:54] <thafreak> so you really from "near ytown"?
[01:54] <yano> yea, well at least now i am
[01:55] <yano> i was in columbus for a while
[01:56] <thafreak> interesting...
[01:56] <thafreak> did you move there for a job?
[01:56] <yano> school
[01:56] <thafreak> oh ysu?
[01:56] <yano> oh, no i moved to columbus for school
[01:56] <thafreak> OH
[01:56] <thafreak> so you started near ytown and came back...ok got it...
[01:56] <paultag> IO!
[01:57] <Cheri703> skellat is out that way yano
[01:57] <yano> i'm back home for a bit; then planning on either heading back to finish degree or go somewhere else
[01:57] <yano> yep
[01:57] <thafreak> what were you studying?
[01:57] <yano> Computer Science and Engineering
[01:57] <thafreak> like both...or CSE?
[01:58] <yano> yea, it's one degree
[01:58] <thafreak> gotcha...
[01:58] <yano> though, iirc, only two universities in Ohio offer the fused degree
[01:58] <yano> Case and OSU
[01:58] <thafreak> it's an EE degree?
[01:59] <yano> not really, it's more of a software theory + electrical degree
[01:59] <yano> there is an ECE program
[01:59] <thafreak> i think akron also has a...wait, not it's a computer engineering degree at akron
[01:59] <yano> it's rather complicated
[01:59] <thafreak> so is it a BS or a BSEE
[02:00] <yano> OSU has a BS CSE, BS CIS, and a BA CIS. then they have a BS ECE
[02:00] <yano> where CIS is Computer Information Systems
[02:00] <yano> and ECE is Electrical and Computer Engineering
[02:00] <yano> http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/ugrad/ -- describes the differences between the CSE/CIS better than I could
[02:00] <thafreak> That sounds like alot of very related stuff
[02:01] <thafreak> Kent had CS CIS and a separate one in "Technology"
[02:01] <thafreak> now, they have yet another degree...in "digital sciences" which is a mix of everything
[02:02] <yano> yea; i originally started at kent without committing to a major
[02:02] <paultag> yano: I went to john carroll
[02:02] <paultag> so I know them folks down by kent well
[02:03] <paultag> kent read, kent write, kent state ;)
[02:03] <thafreak> wasn't jcu more of an engineering slant too?
[02:03] <thafreak> blah blah blah
[02:03] <paultag> thafreak: nah brah
[02:03] <paultag> thafreak: I have a theoretical degree
[02:03] <thafreak> just because they gave me some degrees, doesn't mean they're THAT bad ;)
[02:03] <paultag> ah damn
[02:04] <paultag> I forgot you went to kent
[02:04] <thafreak> your degree is just theoretical? :)
[02:04] <paultag> duh :)
[02:04] <paultag> I can't be trusted with one in practiced
[02:04] <paultag> practice *
[02:04] <thafreak> well, theoretically, I'm a doctor :)
[02:05] <paultag> :)
[02:05] <paultag> dude
[02:06] <thafreak> brah
[02:06] <paultag> the state of MA is going to thik i'm a terrorist
[02:06] <thafreak> what now
[02:06] <paultag> I just got like, military grade data on everything I can
[02:06] <paultag> thafreak: read the backlog in #whube
[02:06] <thafreak> you hanging out with that rommney char?
[02:06] <paultag> dude
[02:06] <paultag> this data is nuts
[02:07] <paultag> I have every single private and public road in the state of MA
[02:07] <paultag> this whole opengov thing rock
[02:07] <paultag> s
[02:08] <thafreak> what about the roads?
[02:08] <thafreak> like diff than what open street map proj does?
[02:09] <paultag> thafreak: osm has this dataset, but they have to manually do some of it too
[02:09] <paultag> thafreak: this is from the state, this is the data they use themselves
[02:10] <thafreak> i think you get data boners
[02:10] <thafreak> ;)
[02:10] <paultag> dude
[02:11] <paultag> full on
[02:11] <thafreak> lol
[02:11] <thafreak> gotta go keep the wife company for a bit (and write a midterm exam)...
[02:12] <paultag> thafreak: gl
[02:12] <thafreak> also, need to stop her from watching bachelor/bachelorette...whatever the hell is on
[02:12] <thafreak> sometimes I hate the TV
[02:13] <thafreak> cancelled cable cause she started watching MTV all the time (jersey shore, 16 and pregnant, etc)...
[02:13] <thafreak> can't cancel over the air tv though...stupid ABC
[02:13] <yano> i only watch stuff online or via netflix
[02:13] <yano> i can't stand commercials
[02:13] <paultag> yano++
[02:13] <thafreak> i just hate horrible programming
[02:14] <thafreak> haha...funny thought
[02:14] <paultag> label foo; while ( true ) { goto foo; }
[02:14] <yano> and with the right firefox extensions you can watch most things on network websites without ads at all
[02:14] <yano> and youtube, ofc
[02:14] <thafreak> horrible programming, both why MTV AND Micro$oft suck....LOL
[02:14] <paultag> :)
[02:14] <paultag> 02:14 < paultag> label foo; while ( true ) { goto foo; }
[02:14] <thafreak> and with that...I'm out...for now
[02:14] <paultag> already made the joke
[02:15] <paultag> holy bejeezus is this detailed
[02:15] <thafreak> gimme a break, I'm slow
[02:15] <yano> yea i need to leave for a bit too
[15:38] <thafreak> So...how do you monitor your monitoring server?
[15:38] <thafreak> Say you have 4 servers that all run VMs...
[15:39] <thafreak> you can run a VM to do monitoring of your other VMs...but then what about monitoring the physical hosts?
[16:17] <dzho> it's monitor hosts all the way down
[16:17] <dzho> almost enough to make me want to form a host monitoring web ring
[16:56] <thafreak> lately, I've been having problems with my physical hosts crashing, and some vm's become unusable...
[16:56] <thafreak> so I don't feel confident having just a VM running my monitoring
[16:57] <thafreak> but the hardware the vm's are on, is also pretty redundant...so i kind of want to use it...
[16:57] <thafreak> might just have one vm on each physical server monitoring every other server...
[16:57] <thafreak> and then another just plain desktop monitor all the monitoring machines...
[16:58] <thafreak> tired of coming into work and seeing something is down...but only to find out because a user emailed me
[16:59] <thafreak> Also, my confidence in KVM on ubuntu is starting to get shaky
[17:00] <thafreak> i've had WAY fewer problems with xen...course I wasn't doing NFS/iSCSI backed virtual disks with xen
[17:00] <thafreak> so it could be other factors...but still
[19:41] <thafreak> Anyone tryout samba4 yet?
[20:39] <thafreak> http://digitizor.com/2012/02/07/canonical-to-stop-funding-for-kubuntu/
[20:41] <Unit193> http://blog.lydiapintscher.de/2012/02/07/changes-in-kubuntu/ http://blogs.kde.org/node/4531 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2012-February/005782.html https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2012-February/005781.html
[20:41] <Unit193> Forget the last one