[02:08] <MutantTurkey> I am going to try and block my time
[02:08] <MutantTurkey> like do 30 minutes of X
[02:08] <MutantTurkey> and 30 minutes of Y
[03:20] <MutantTurkey> i hate crappy response papers
[03:20] <MutantTurkey> "why did you find this interesting'
[03:20] <MutantTurkey> because it's worth 10% of my grade...
[03:20] <MutantTurkey> lol
[03:20] <EvilResistance> lol
[06:17] <InHisName> How about:   "I did NOT find it interesting, I'm only here because I want a good grade."
[10:48] <rmg51> Morning
[11:01] <JonathanD> MOrning.
[11:07] <rmg51> MOrning JonathanD
[11:14] <JonathanD> Hi.
[14:44] <MutantTurkey> http://lwn.net/Articles/479710/
[14:44] <MutantTurkey> who's running PennBot?
[14:44] <MutantTurkey> we need to get the link thing working again
[14:49] <jedijf> anonical pulls the plug on Kubuntu
[14:49] <MutantTurkey> yeah
[14:49] <MutantTurkey> interesting
[14:50] <MutantTurkey> they've really stopped caring about anything but unity
[14:50] <jedijf> caring and underwriting are exclusive
[14:51] <MutantTurkey> why does lwn still have that terrible layout though?
[14:51] <MutantTurkey> i wish they'd choose something saner
[14:51] <MutantTurkey> I like the minimalism. I don't like the layout
[14:52] <jedijf> i wish i read it more
[14:52] <MutantTurkey> it's rather good
[14:52] <MutantTurkey> I need to get a subscription
[14:53] <jedijf> i just subscribed DOH - i have a subscription - THANKS MARK - never subscribed to email
[14:54] <MutantTurkey> whut
[14:55] <jedijf> Canonical supports jedijf
[14:55] <jedijf> lwn subscription
[14:55] <MutantTurkey> haha
[14:55] <jedijf> true, all members get LWN sub as bonus
[14:57] <MutantTurkey> what is the command for nvermind...
[14:57] <MutantTurkey> xprop
[15:01] <MutantTurkey> WOHOOOO
[15:01] <MutantTurkey> jedijf: new 3.0.20 kernel can "According to Matthew Garrett, who developed the patch, the change can reduce the power consumption of a Thinkpad X220 by 5 watts. "
[15:02] <MutantTurkey> how'd they know I wanted that so badly?
[15:02] <MutantTurkey> on my natty install I could get down to 8-9 watts.
[15:02] <MutantTurkey> now i'm at like 15/16
[15:05] <MutantTurkey> its mostly this crappy realtek driver
[15:05] <MutantTurkey> no powersaving on it yet
[15:22] <jedijf> that's a young persons game; my era is more power
[15:30] <MutantTurkey> lol
[15:31] <MutantTurkey> I am loooking into getting a opteron build server going
[15:31] <EvilResistance> MutantTurkey, i'm running PennBot, but I also had an explodified python lib set, so its on a fractured system atm
[15:32] <EvilResistance> unless any of you has an additional 55MB RAM you can lend me on a VPS or a server... :P
[15:33] <MutantTurkey> EvilResistance: let me check
[15:33] <MutantTurkey> nope
[15:33] <MutantTurkey> 55mb
[15:33] <MutantTurkey> holy crap
[15:33] <EvilResistance> thats what its using actively right now
[15:34] <EvilResistance> (i should point out its in 3 channels, excluding its reporting channel)
[15:34] <JonathanD> This is gonna be a bad day.
[15:34]  * EvilResistance SSH's to the box and digs around in the system
[15:34] <MutantTurkey> why JonathanD
[15:34] <JonathanD> remote server hosted with crappy provider is down.
[15:34] <JonathanD> won't reboot, won't come back up.
[15:37] <EvilResistance> hmm...
[15:37] <EvilResistance> MutantTurkey, i've loaded the URL plugin, but it seems to not work
[15:38] <EvilResistance> i'll have to dig around further to find out why
[15:38] <MutantTurkey> huh
[15:38] <MutantTurkey> http://google.com
[15:39] <EvilResistance> MutantTurkey, the "title snarfer" config option doesnt show up, so i'm digging around for the configs
[15:40] <rmg51> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Dickens
[15:40] <MutantTurkey> whut whut whut
[15:40] <MutantTurkey> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patagonia
[15:40] <rmg51> MutantTurkey: ^^
[15:41] <MutantTurkey> yep
[15:43] <EvilResistance> https://trekweb.org/
[15:43] <PennBot> Title: TrekWeb Internet Services - About Us (at trekweb.org)
[15:43] <EvilResistance> ^ there we go
[15:44] <EvilResistance> MutantTurkey, want to guess why it wasnt working?
[15:44] <EvilResistance> :P
[15:44] <MutantTurkey> why?
[15:45] <EvilResistance> because they have two plugins that do the same thing and no difference in description between the two...
[15:45] <EvilResistance> but it doesnt correctly run in one of the plugins :P
[15:47] <jedijf> http://www.lameexcuseplugin.com
[15:47] <MutantTurkey> lamalex...
[15:47] <MutantTurkey> plugin.dotcom
[15:48] <EvilResistance> wtfh...
[15:48]  * EvilResistance beats the system
[15:48] <EvilResistance> that returned an error jedijf
[15:50] <adom> any chance anyone here has used Facebook chat with Pidgin?
[15:51] <EvilResistance> adom,  a while ago, then they changed their API and things exploded
[15:53] <MutantTurkey> adom: yes
[15:53] <MutantTurkey> I thought it was just XMPP?
[15:53] <MutantTurkey> it works fairly well for me
[15:53] <MutantTurkey> or did
[15:53] <adom> yeah its xmpp but its not working for me
[15:53] <adom> keeps saying "Not authorized"
[15:53] <adom> i even tried the Facebook plugin for Pidgin which keeps saying Incorrect username or password
[15:53] <adom> but i use the exact same user/pass tologin to the site
[15:54]  * EvilResistance points at his last statement which points out Facebook changed their API and things broke
[15:54] <adom> so using facebook chat via pidgin no longer works?
[15:55] <EvilResistance> i cant get it to work with Empathy either, so...
[15:55] <EvilResistance> and fwiw i dont really use facebook anymore so... :p
[16:00] <adom> i use FB all the time to communicate with friends/family
[16:01] <adom> just want to close the web page and just have chat available
[16:01] <MutantTurkey> huh
[16:02] <MutantTurkey> use facebook's chat in it's own window
[16:02] <MutantTurkey> thats nice
[16:02] <jedijf> i stopped using it on bitlbee to avoid people
[16:02] <adom> MutantTurkey: dont think you can do that anymore
[16:02] <jedijf> so use bitlbee
[16:02] <adom> hmm
[16:02] <MutantTurkey> huh
[16:03] <MutantTurkey> bitlbee is just as bad
[16:03] <MutantTurkey> isn't itbased on libpurple?
[16:03] <adom> whatever works ill try at this point
[16:03] <adom> assuming its not insecure
[16:03] <adom> er....unsecure?
[16:03] <adom> not secure
[16:03] <jedijf> it's facebook
[16:03] <adom> if its that, i dont like it
[16:04] <jedijf> food or work
[17:33] <adom> i got facebook chat to work via xmpp in pidgin. but now im second guessing pidgin as my im client. i dont think i can turn off the Snort updates of people logging in and out of facebook and its really annoying.
[17:33] <adom> most im clients let you customize notifications, but i cant find anything in pidgin that does.
[17:35] <adom> debating giving the bitlbee train a ride...
[17:35] <adom> can somoene give me a quick one line explanation of how it works?
[17:35] <adom> my guess is that bitlbee is a server that runs locally [or remotely?] and irssi has a plugin that connects to the bitlbee server?
[17:36] <adom> also accepting linux im client recommendations
[17:52] <ChinnoDog> bitlbee is an IM client
[17:53] <ChinnoDog> there isn't a one line explanation but there is a nice page pleia2 created about getting started with bitlbee
[17:54] <ChinnoDog> http://princessleia.com/bitlbee.php
[17:54] <PennBot> Title: PrincessLeia.com - Bitlbee Quickstart Guide (Online Edition) & Notes (at princessleia.com)
[17:54] <adom> i thought bitlbee was a server that you view with an irc client
[17:54] <ChinnoDog> It is an IM client that runs as an IRC server
[17:55] <adom> wow princessleia.com, impressive
[17:55] <ChinnoDog> pleia2 is impressive
[18:54] <InHisName> any of you using musicbrainz ?
[18:56] <MobileTurkey> bleck
[19:31] <adom> InHisName: i think ive used the Picard thingy before for automatic MP3 tagging
[20:23] <adom> wth...since when is CentOS a desktop distro?
[20:24] <adom> coworker installed it on a box thinking of tossing up a quick LAMP server...upon restart we were presented gnome2 desktop interface
[20:24] <adom> ive only ever known CentOS as a server OS
[20:54] <ChinnoDog> I think I am going to transplant my computer into an old case
[20:55] <JonathanD> I need a case for mine.
[20:55] <JonathanD> I have a semi-decent gaming rig in a piece of bent aluminum.
[20:55] <ChinnoDog> lol
[20:56] <JonathanD> It used to be a case, probably even a good one.
[20:56] <JonathanD> But the side is missing pieces, all the drive bays up front are missing the fillers, and it just looks like crap
[20:56] <ChinnoDog> Well, I have this Antec Sonata case that is heavy duty and quiet despite its many fans but the motherboard is ancient and it needs a new power supply because the one it has does not have thermal controls. (I replaced it and was too cheap... oops)
[20:56] <ChinnoDog> And the power supply in the current case I think is what is making obnoxious noises
[20:56] <ChinnoDog> So I will need a new power supply too
[20:57] <ChinnoDog> You could potentially have my old case
[20:57] <JonathanD> I have a good PSU.
[20:57] <ChinnoDog> There is nothing wrong with it aside from poor noise dampening ability for my many fans and hard drives
[20:57] <JonathanD> well
[20:57] <JonathanD> ok
[20:57] <JonathanD> it's mostly good
[20:57] <JonathanD> The fan doesn't work
[20:58] <ChinnoDog> haha. That is mostly good?
[20:58] <JonathanD> so I shoved another one in and wired it to the HDD power supply
[20:58] <ChinnoDog> I need to stop buying things with fans
[20:58] <JonathanD> The previous power supply made my HDD catch on fire, so I took it out.
[20:59] <ChinnoDog> When I am done the Sonata will be sporting 5-8 hard drives, two 120mm fans, CPU fan, graphics card fan, power supply fan
[20:59] <JonathanD> Too many fans.
[20:59] <ChinnoDog> That is a good reason to remove it. lol
[20:59] <JonathanD> I thought so.
[20:59] <JonathanD> Yet... I kept it.
[20:59] <ChinnoDog> When I had a quiet PSU the whole system was quiet. It was amazing
[20:59] <JonathanD> Logic would dicate it should be thrown away.
[20:59] <JonathanD> But maybe I can use it still!
[20:59] <ChinnoDog> Antec Sonata is very well built
[21:00] <JonathanD> The current PSU is an antec something.
[21:00] <JonathanD> I think.
[21:00] <ChinnoDog> :-\
[21:00] <ChinnoDog> But, flaming hard drives are bad
[21:00] <JonathanD> ChinnoDog: not the burning one.
[21:00] <JonathanD> the burning one, I took out.
[21:00] <JonathanD> one of the HDD power connectors was sort of smushed.
[21:00] <JonathanD> so it shorted.
[21:01] <JonathanD> and melted the plastic right off the drive.
[21:01] <ChinnoDog> oops
[21:01] <JonathanD> the drive still works if you shove some paper or something in the socket so the leads make contact.
[21:01] <JonathanD> But I opted to replace that, too :)
[21:01] <JonathanD> I have a nifty little 10,000rpm SATA disk in it now, instead.
[21:02] <ChinnoDog> I need a hot swap cage so I can add all my hard drives
[21:02] <JonathanD> I only game on this machine.
[21:02] <JonathanD> Only one disk. All my storage is on NAS.
[21:02] <JonathanD> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136322 is the disk, I got one for free.
[21:02] <PennBot> Title: Newegg.com - Western Digital VelociRaptor WD3000HLFS 300GB 10000 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gbs 3.5 Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive (at www.newegg.com)
[21:02] <JonathanD> it's only 300GB though.
[21:03] <ChinnoDog> "free"?
[21:03] <JonathanD> yes
[21:03] <JonathanD> My boss gives me his "old" stuff.
[21:03] <ChinnoDog> sweet
[21:03] <JonathanD> Thats also how I got the NAS, actually.
[21:03] <waltman> And the holodeck
[21:04] <JonathanD> only some of it
[21:04] <JonathanD> and one of these babys... http://www.dexternights.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/lenovo-thinkpad-x200-tablet_4a2.jpg
[21:05] <waltman> This means that JonathanD's boss must have a really kick-ass holodeck in HIS basement.
[21:13] <ChinnoDog> By the time I am done my computer is going to weigh a ton
[21:13] <ChinnoDog> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816215242
[21:13] <PennBot> Title: Newegg.com - iStarUSA BPN-DE230SS-RED 2 x 5.25 to 3 x 3.5 SASSATA Trayless Hot-Swap Cage - Server Accessories (at www.newegg.com)
[21:13] <ChinnoDog> I like it. Trayless, supports SATA 1-3 and SAS 1 and 2
[21:20] <ChinnoDog> What do you call the connector on a power supply that you plug your fans into so that it can regulate the fan speed?
[21:24] <ChinnoDog> I'm tempted to get a fanless power supply and get a thermocouple controlled rear 120mm fan with a pass-through connector for the forward fan
[21:24] <adom> you mean the molex connectors? or the 3-4 pin headers on your motherboard?
[21:24] <ChinnoDog> I mean on the PSU specs. some of them control additional internal fans for you, some of them don't
[21:24] <ChinnoDog> I forget what type of connectors they have. i will have to look
[21:24] <adom> ive never been much of a fan speed control person
[21:25] <adom> just let the bios handle it
[21:25] <adom> never had an overheating issue with decent ventilation
[21:26] <adom> i take that back
[21:26] <adom> back in the day i used to run dual SLi video cards in my dad's dusty basement. one day i started getting visual errors, like bright lines streaking across the screen. then the PC just stopped turning on.
[21:27] <adom> took out the video cards and both had seeping capacitors
[21:27] <adom> so, besides that, ive never had an overheating issue
[21:27]  * adom blushes.
[21:28] <adom> i need to start keeping track of my away status
[21:28]  * adom waves bye.
[21:29] <ChinnoDog> seeping capacitors was a production problem
[21:29] <ChinnoDog> It affected all computers made with them. I think that era lasted about a year and a half.
[21:29] <ChinnoDog> It was too big to recall
[21:50] <ChinnoDog> looks like the rear fan has molex connector only. It came with the case. Forward hard drive fan has 3 pin connector that splits into a molex pass-through for power and a single wire 3 pin connector so it can be controlled by the motherboard
[22:32] <ChinnoDog> I made a huge mess on my floor. Computer parts everywhere
[23:03] <MutantTurkey> who wanted that kernel 3.2 source?
[23:03] <MutantTurkey> francisbrwn9/kernels/ubuntu/
[23:03] <MutantTurkey> from PPA
[23:04] <MutantTurkey> erstazi: was that you?\
[23:39] <ChinnoDog> Sure, I move the computer so I can verify what is making the noise and now it won't do it
[23:39] <ChinnoDog> after I went through all the work to hollow out another case for it
[23:40] <MutantTurkey> woop woop
[23:45] <ChinnoDog> ... it did it, and I fixed it. It was the GPU fan
[23:48] <ChinnoDog> I take it back. It isn't fixed, but it is the GPU fan. hmm
[23:48] <ChinnoDog> pleia2 knows all about having too many fans